HomeMy WebLinkAbout0535.093October 7. 199.3
HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL
Palo Alto, California
JOrNI FIRE STATION STrrDY
Members of the Council:
Report iil Brief
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This report is an informational report and no Council action is
necessary. This report is ir..tended to provide updated infm:mation
regarding tne status of the feasibility study of jointly operating a fire
station with the City of Mountain View. City of Mo~tain View staff will
not be recommending the joint station at this time at a meeting of the
Mountain View City Council Public Safety Committee on October S, 1993.
BAckground
On December 5, 1991 the Finance Committee directed staff to develop a
multi-jurisdictional Fire Station Consolidation Plan with the officials
of Mountain View, Los AltOB/ and Los Altos Hills (CMR:533 :91.). Much
:z'esearch and many discussions between the staffs of all three cities have
occurred over th~ past year and a half. The City of MOlmtain View staff
has concluded that the potential response time improvement to the
~ountain View area north of Bayshore is not significant enough to s~pport
a joint station recommendation at chis time. They find that the benefics
do not outweigh the impacts of eliminating their rescue ~~ic, redeploying
their aerial ladder truck company to a less desirable location, or the
commitment of their financial r~sources so far out into the future isee
attached memorandum) .
Mountain View staff will continue to work with Palo Al to staff at
evaluating the potential benefits to both jurisdictions by expanding
automatic aid agreement a and the possibil ity of joint hazardous materials
responses. In addition, staff continues to work with Los Altos and Menlo
Park at exploring potential financial and service benefits by
consolidating or sharing resources.
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ROBERT R. wALL
Pin Chief
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Attaclu'tent:
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City of Mountain View Memorandum dated OCtobe:.' 1, 1993
.Joint Fire Station Study~
Staff Report, Fire Station Location Study, 1 '215/91
Finance Committee Minutes, 12/10/91
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CITY OF MOUNTAIN VIEW
MEMORANDUM
DATE: October 1. 1993
TO CITY COUNCIL PUBliC SAFElY COMMl1TEE
Cha:rperson: Norman Shaskey
Members: Robert Schatz, Mary<. Freelen, James Cochran (Alternate)
FROM: Hugh Holden, FlIe Chief
SUllJECT: JOINT FIRE STATION STUDY
NOTICE OF MEETING
The Mountain View City Council Public Safety Ccmmlttee will conve.'1e on
Tuesd~y, October 5, 1993, at 7:30 p.rn. in the Plaza Conference Room, City Hall, 500
CastrOr Street, MOWltain View to discuss the Mountain View IPalo Alto join~ station
study.
AGENDA
1. Review of Background
2. Reyiew oi-1W.a1ysis and Finding'
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Chief
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CITY OF MOUNTAINVIEVV
MEMORANDUM
September 27, 1993
Kevin C. Duggan. City lV.anager
Hugh G. Hold en, Fire Chief
JOINT STATION STUDY
RECOMMENDATION
We do not re;:ommend the City of P;'!o Alto and tho! City of Mountain View jointly
own and operatE: a fue staticn at this time.
BACKGROUND
On March 17, 1992 the City Council adopted the recommendation of the Council
Public Safety Committee authorizing Fire Department staff to study the feasJ.oility of
a shared fire station with the City of Palo Alto. After month, of negotiations, both
cities a~ that the most feasible consolidation plan would include building. new
slation located at a site near the intersection of Charleston and San Antonio Roads.
The station would house a Palo Alto Engine Company staffed with PaID Alto
firefighters (3 firefighters X 3 shifts = 9 fire£ghters), a Mountain View Truck
Company (Aerial Ladder Truck) jointly staffed by Mountain View and Palo ,o.Jto
firefighters (3 Mountain View firefighters and one Palo Alto frrefrghter X 3 s.!tifts = 12
firefighters), a Hazardous Materials Van and an unstaffed Reserve Engine. The
Hazaxdous Materials Van would be sWfed by the same firefighters/Hazardous
Mater,aJs Technicians assigned to 1.."" Truck Company. The Mountain View Truck
and Haza.rdous Materials Van would come from our Fire Station 4-on Whisman
Road. The PaID Alto Engine Company would rome from Palo Alto's Statier. 4 on
Middlefield Road. The City of Mountain View would realize savings by eliminating
its Rescue Unit now operating out of Station 1.
In order for staff to recommend a joint station, results of the study were to conclude
the following: 1) Level of service would be maintained Of improved; 2) The City
would witness a return on its investment within 5 years (the 5 yea.r criterion was set
by Palo Alto).
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ANALYSIS & FINDINGS
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There is no IP.al advantage to locating our Aerial Ladder Truck at a joint station near
San Antonio and Charleston Roads. Wnile it w0wd give us better response times to
the North of Bayshore Area, this predominantly industrial area has a low life and
property fire risk due to incorporation of automatic fire sprinklers and/or fire
detection systerJ".s in mos_~ buildings. However, it would extend response times to
other densely popula.ted areas with non-fire sprin.klered residential and ii"'l.stitutional
buildings. The Aerial Ladder Truck is Olrrentiy located at Station 4. It is planned to
move it into the new Station I when constn!ction has been completed. This will pllt
the Aerial Ladder Truck in the heart of the City where reasonable respo~ times can
be achieved for all of Mountain View and service to the highest life a."1d property risk
occupancies will be significantly improved.
The Rescue Unit, which would be eliminated in the joint Mountain View/Palo Alto
Frre Station plan, responds to approximately 1,200 cills per year or 28% of all Fire
Department responses. Fuefighte!'S staffing the unit are also responsiblE for fire
inspections. If the Rescue Unit were to be eliminafed, this workload would be
shifted to Engine Companies.
The Rescue Unit is dispatched to every building fire incident in the City along with
the Aeri.al Ladder Truck Compa.'lY, two Engine Companies and a Battalior, Chief
resultin! in a complexnent of twelve Fire Department personnel at fire scenes.
Reducing this number of staff is not advisable for safety and operational
effectiveness reasons. Therefore, eliminating the Rescue Unit would require a third
Engine Company to be dispatched to every fire which in turn would reduce the level
of protection available for simultanecus alarms and increase our reliance on mutual
aid at a time when adjacent cities have reduced their mutual aid commitment to us.
In addition, lhe joint Engine Company we proposed to be lccated at the joint station,
while capable of improving response times to the North of Bayshore Area, will not
have the advantagl2' of central location that our Rescue UnH currently has. This
change would mea."1 delayed responses to the higher risk areas of our Gty.
Fiscal Impact
All alternatives to building a new station were discounted in the cou:rse of this study.
Staff examined the passfull; ty of converting an existing commercial structure to meet
our needs. Public Works staff from both cities concluded there would be no ccst
savings involved with this alternative. Using existing fire stations in either
jurisdiction was not viable because of unacceptable increases in response times.
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Building a new station capable of housing a 1luck Company, Hazardous Materials
Yan, E.'lgine Company and a Reserve Engine would require a substantial investment
for both dlies. Staff estimat.,. it would cost each jurisdiction $1)100,000 (total of
$3,600.000> based on experience with our new Station 1 and inflationary factors. nus
estimated .. -os! does not include any potential land acquisition costs which may be
Incurred by the city in which the property would reside.
Analysis of potentlal savings from a reduction of six fuefighrer positions revealed it
would take at least seven j'ears before the City of Mountain View would regain its
initlal investment of $1.8 million dollars (see Attachment I).
CONg.llSION
The potentlal response time improvement to the North of B.yshore Area is not
significant enough to support a joint station r<'COmmendation. The benefits do not
outweigh the impacts of eliIrlnating our Rescue Unit, redeploying our Aerial Ladder
Truck Comp~y to a less desirable location, a..T1d committing our financial resources
v.:ith a return so far out into the future.
Results of this study do not ill anyway preclude us from pursuing Ibe benefits
derived from shared resources betw ... ..n jurisdictions. The possibility of joint
hazardous materials response with Palo Alto is stili being considered. We a,-e also
looking at expandi.-,g our automatic aid agreement with Palo Alto to cover medical
aid as "{eIJ as fire responses. While not as aggressive as a joint station, they are
~ns.chat promise to deliver better service to our dtizens without increased costs.
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JOINT-STATION SAVINGS SUMMARY
Assumptions:
Salary Savings: 6 Firefighter Positions
Inflation Rate: 4 'Yo"
Initial Expenditure: $1,BOO,Ooo In 1993-94
Salary SavIngs Beginning: 1996-97
Discount Rate Year Recover Inltia!
Investment
6% 7
7% B
8% B
• Savings were also calculated using 5% and 6% innaiionarl rates.
Savings figures increased slightiy; however, time of i!1vestmer.t
recovery did not gner significantly.
JOI~ATION ANAlvslSiOETAIt.EO SPR~
SALARY SAVINGS BEGINNING FISCAL YEAR 1996-97
EXPEN DITURE IN FY 1993-94
6% DISCOUNT RATE
4% iNFLAT10N
$1.BOO.OOO 6FIREfiGHTERS
1 $0 0.943 (Sl.GOn.OOO)
2 $0 0.890 (SI.800,000)
3 $465.5110 $391,020 0.840 ($1.408.980)
4 $484.120 $383,423 0.792 ($1.025.557)
5 $503.485 $376,103 0.747 ($649,454)
6 $523.624 $3E9,155 0.705 ($280,299)
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8 $566.352 $355.103 0.627 $436.942
9 $589.006 $34a.692 0.592 $7a5.634
10 $612,566 $341,812 0.558 $1,127.446
11 $637,069 $335.735 0.527 $1.463.181
12 $662.552 $329.288 0.497 $1.792.469
13 $589,054 $323.166 0.469 $2.115,636
14 $716,616 $316.744 0.442 $2,432.380
15 $745.280 $310.782 0.417 $2,743,162
16 $775,092 $305.S86 0.394 $3.048,548
17 $806,095 $299.061 0.371 $3.347,60~
18. $838.339 $293.419 0.350 $3.641,028
19' $871.873 $288.590 0.331 $3.929.618
20 $906,748 $282.905 0.312 $4.212.523
2 t $943.018 $277.247 0.294 $4.489,770
22 $980.738 $272.645 0.278 $4.762,416
23 $1.019.96a $267.232 0.262 $5.029,647
24 $1.060.767 ~262.009 0.247 $5.291,656
25 $1.103,197 $257.045 0.233 $5.548,701
26 $1.147,325 $252.'12 0.220 $5.801,113
27 $1.193,21a $246.996 0.207 $6.048,109
28 $1.240.947 $243.226 0.196 $6.291.335
29 $1.290.585 $238,758 0,185 $5.530.093
30 $1.342,208 $233.544 0.174 $6.763.6~7
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JOINTi.OON ANAL VSISOETAILED SPREADS:~
SALARY SAVINGS BEGINNING FISCAL YEAR 1996-97
EXPENDITURE IN FV 1993-94
7% DISCOUNT RATE
4% lNFLA T10N
$1.800,000 6 FIAEFIGMTEP.S
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1 $0 $0 0.935 1$1,800,000)
2 $0 $0 0.873 1$1,800,000)
3 $465.500 $379.S48 0.816 1$1.420,152)
4 $484,120 $369,384 0.763 1$1,050,768;
5 $503,485 $358,985 0.713 1$691,784)
6 $523,624 $348,734 0.666 1$343,050)
7 $544.569 $339,267 0.623 (i3,783)
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9 $599,006 $320,419 0.544 $646,253
10 $612,566 $311,184 0.508 $957,436
11 $637,069 $302,608 0.475 $1,260,044
12 $662,552 $294, i 73 0.444 $1,554,217
13 $689,054 $285,957 0.415 $1,840,174
14 $716,616 $278,047 0.388 $2,118,221
15 $745,280 $269,792 O.36~ $2,388,013
16 $775,092 $262.756 0,339 $2,650,769
17_ $806,095 $255.532 0.317 $2,906,301
18, $838,339 $248,148 0.296 $3,154,449
19 $871,873 $241,509 0.277 $3,395,958
20 . $906,748 $233.941 0.258 $3,629,899
21 ~943,018 $228,210 0,242 $3,858,109
22 $980,738 $221.647 0,226 $4,079,756
23 $1,019,968 $215,213 0.211 $4.294.969
24 $1,060,767 $208,971 0.197 $4,503,940
25 $1.103.197 $202,988 0.184 $4,706,929
26 $1,147,325 $197,340 0.172 $4;904,269
27 $1,193.218 $192,108 0.161 $5,096,377
28 $1,240.947 $186,142 0,150 $5,282,519
29 $1,290.565 $181,972 0,141 $5,464.491
30 $1,342,208 $175,829 0.131 $5.640,320
SAlARY SAViNGS BEGINNING ASCAL YEAR 1996-97
EXPENOITURE IN FY 1993-94
$% DISCOUNT RATE
4% INFlATION
$1,800,000 SFlRERGHTERS
1 $0 $0 0.926 ($1,800,OCO)
2 $0 $0 0.857 lSI,800,000)
3 $465,S.QlI $369,607 0.794 ($1,430,S93)
4 $484,120 $355,628 0.735 ($1,074,56S)
5 $503,485 $342,873 0.681 {$731 ,692)
6 $523,624 $329,883 0.630 ($401 ,806)
7 $544,569 $311,484 0.583 ($84,225)
a $566,352 $305,830 0.540 $221,5D5 -----9--------$5S9,OOS-------$294:s03--------0~500--------$5-1-(008-'
10 $612,566 $283,618 0.463 $799,627
11 $637,069 $273,303 0.429 $1,072,929
12 $662,552 $263,033 0.397 $1,3:>E,962
13 $689,054 $253,572 0.368 $1,589,534
14 $716,616 $243,649 0.340 $1,833,183
15 $745,260 $234,763 0,315 $2,067,947
16 $775,092 $226,327 0.292 $2,294,273
17 $806,095 $217,646 0.270 $2,511 ,91S
16, $638,339 $209,565 0.250 $2,721,504
19' $871,873 $202,274 0.232 $2,923,779
20 $906,743 $194,951 0.215 $3,118,729
21 $943,018 $187,660 0.199 $3,30e,390
22 $980,738 $180.456 0.184 $3,486,846
23 $1,019,968 $173,395 0.170 $3,660,240
24 $1,060,7S7 "67,fj01 0.158 $3.827,841
25 $1,103,197 $161,067 0.146 $3.988,90a
26 $1,147,325 $154.889 0.135 $4,143,797
27 $1,193,218 $149,152 0.125 $4,292,949
28 $1,240,947 $143,950 0.116 $4,436.899
29 $1,290,585 $13S,093 0.1~7 $4,574,~92
30 $1,342,208 $132,879 0.099 $4,707,870
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December 5, 1991
HONOP~LE CITY COUNCIL
Palo Alto, Californ~a
Attention: Finance committee
FIRB STATION LOCATION STUDY
Members of the council:
Report in Brief
This report responds to the Finance Committee's request of March
26, 1991 for additional information concp-rning t~c wPalo Alto Fire
Department Fire Station Location Studyn 4
On ~urther study I star! has estimated that it will take approxi
mately five years from the date of the first expense incurrec
(1993-94) for expenditure savings to offset capital costs to
implement the recolllillended proposaL After the relocations are. paid
f~rl the~e is an ongoing savings to the City of nine positions, or
over $600,000 per year. Staff racommends that Council direct staff
to develop a multi-jurisdictional Fire Station Consolidation Plan
with the officials of Mountain view~ Los Altos and Los Alt~s Rills.
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The wPalo Alto Fire Derartment Fire Station Location Studyb (CMR
170~91, March 21, 1991) found that service levels could be
maintained while reducing ongoing expenditures by a combination of
relocating and ccnsolidating tire stations with Los Alto;:;. and
Mountain View as contained in the St",Jdy's alternative nWl1l:ler 4.
The Finance Committee reqt..;.z.sted that staf.! investigate five areas:
1. Actual pot.ential locatic.ns for the proposed stations;
2. Improvement of response time to Greer Park;
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3~ Financial informatian on cost of building new stations;
4. Sample of elements to be contained in joint po~ers aut~orlty
documents; and
!. Ider.tify the timing and mechanism for implementing the
proposed relocation plan.
Statf further proposes two additional amendments to Alternative
Number Four. The _first is to delay the relocation of the Alma
Street fire station to a site near the civic center because of lack
of cost sa. .... ings. The second is to continue to operate the Hanove.r
Street fire station by reallccation of staff from existing
stations.
The amended alt~rnative number 4 proposes that Palo Alto build and
operate a consolidated Fire Station (Numbe~ 9} with Los Altos by
moving a portion of the existing fire suppression resources
services from HanDver Street to the proposed site on Arastradero
Road near Page Mill Road. The Hanover Statio~ would remain open
and &erve as the Emergency Medical Services (paramedic) and
Hazardous Materials/Response Center. In addition~ Palo Alto's
Station Number 4 would be moved to the 800 block of Charleston Road
ana consolidated with Mountain View's Station Number J. The
property currently occupied by Stat.ion llumber 4 would be. sold~
Attachment One shows the locations of the existinq and proposed
fire stations.
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1. Identify potential sites for Fire stations 4 a~d 9.
Staff has identified an area as a potential site for Fire station
Number 4 and a specific site in the 800 block of Charleston Road
has been used to calculate response times. The site is for sale,
but at the time this report was prepared~ the owne~s ~ere negotiat
ing a possible sale.
As indicated earlier in this ~eport~ the suppression services from
Station Number 2 would be relocated to staff the consolidated
station N~ber 9 at a site on Arastradero Road in Palo Alto's 77-
acre parcel.
2 ~ Improve response time: fro1rL Station Number 4 to Greer Parle.
Response time calculations from the Charleston location have been
analyzed and the service is improved for Palo Alto when compared to
the studyls previous location at Middlefield and San Antonio Roads.
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Specifically, the area of Colorado Street trom Ross Road tc West
Bayshore and Dry Creek shows ioproved service times from the sao
blocK of Charleston Road. In addition, the Charleston location
provides better access to the Ba~"shore Free.,.'ay and the expandinq
Shoreline Industrial Park area of Mountain View.
3. Calculate the cost of and the number of years it will take to
pay for relocating the tire stations.
If the consolidation of both fire stations 'Iolith the respective
cities were to take place, it WOl,.;,ld take approximately five year-s
for the operational savings to pay for the investment required (see
Attachment Two}. The savings ",",ould begin ... hen the stations are
consolidated + However, the five-year payoff period begins in 1993-
9.:1 when the first capital expenditure is incurred. Several
assumptions and estimations were made to arrive at this conclusion.
These ar-e listed in Attachment Tt, ee. Whenever there was a range
of figures available, the most conservative estimates were made,
i.e~, the highest costs for building ne~ stations was used and the
lowest cost for the sale of property vas used.
Prelimina!"y discussions were held 'With the Fir-e Chiefs and City
Manaqers of Mountain Viev, Los Altos and Los Altos Hills concerning
the feasihility of consolidating fire stations. The parties
concerned are amenable t~ continuing Qiscussions on a more formal
basis. In additionj there is growing interest in using the
proposal contained in this report as the initial step to develop a
plan leading to full consolidation of the three fire departments
where even greater savings a~e possible. As per these discussions,
the respective cities would each contribu~e half of the calculateo
building costs for the fire st~tion that they would share. Without
'this cont.ribution, the time to pay for the proposal would be
extended to nine years~ It is not assumed that either Los Altos or
Mountain View would make any contribution towards the purchase of
the property or the preparation of the property for construction
because both new stations would be located within Palo Alto.
staff proposes that one engine company, Engine 2 from Fire station
2 (Hanover Station) I woulQ ~e moved to the new station on
Arastradero Road and replaced by relocating the e~isting Hazardous
Materials response unit~ R~scue !# currently located at Fire
Station Number 1 (Alma Station). The paramedic unit would remain
at the Hanover Station. This would provide improved hazardous
materials response services to the Stanford Research Park~ In
aclditiofl, there is no apparent economic benefit LO closing the
Hanover Station. When it was as built, Palo Alto ancl stanford
University agreed the property would be used by the City for
municipal parposes or it. reverts to the university, ana cannot
therefore ~e sold by the City.
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4: ~ Identify the elements that would be contained in a J"oint
Powers Agreement.
Implementa.tion of Alternative NUMber 4 "..i11 require the development
ot joint powers agreements between Palo Alto/Los Altos and Palo
Alto/Mountain View to purchase, construct, staff ar.d operate two
fire stations as described in Alternative Number 4. Staff has
researched, with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office, the
follo~inq elements as likely to be included in such an agreement~
Leqal Elements:
o The agreements would meet the guidelines set forth in the
California Government Cod~, Section 6500 ~Joint Exercise
of Powers".
o In addition, the agreement DlUSt. follow any further
constraints established by local requirements for each
jurisdictiol"'. based upon local charter or general laW'
requirements.
~in8ncial Elements~
o The aqreement must contain a clear deSignation of which
party will handle the finances.
o An accounting and auaiting process must be described in
the aqre'S:ment.
o The parties of the agreement can be reimbursed in the
form of goods, services, money or a combination of these
elements. However, the agreement must clearly identify
the form of reimbursement intended and what percentages
would be paid by each party.
o The agree"ment must identify how capita.l costs will be
shared. Alternative Number 4 may include acquisition and
any preparation of land, building construction J permits
and any p~blic environmental studies or review require
ments. The exact nature of the agreement 'Would be
subject to negotiations between the parties.
o Operational costs of the building including all mainte
nance and insurance would be included~
o Equipment values, maintenance and replacement costs for
all shared equipment would be contained in the aqr8ement~
Personnel Elements:
o Personnel and staffing procedures ~ould be necessary to
clarify performance, certifications, training, officer or
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pOGition equivale~ts( and recognition that the agr~ement
had not inter.ded to Equate any differences in salarj',
benefits O~ labor contract language. It is also recog
nized that some issues may arise which. could r-equire
discussions with the bargaining units.
o Reporting relationships and stanQards tor employee
conduct both for emergency and non-emergency activities.
Liability Elements:
o The ~greement would include all insurance coverage which
would take into consideration th~ self-insurance of one
or more of the parties.
o The agreement lr.'ould address issues of liability in ~egard
to handling third party claims and industrial injuries~
Se~/ice Level Elements:
o Service levels and performance standards would be
identified in the agreement.
o Training criteria and certificatior.s, as applicable,
would be identified.
Terms of Agreement and Disposition:
o The terms of agreement stating length, renewal and
termination ~ould be clearly statej.
o Provisions for disposition of jointly held assets would
be identified in the agree~ent.
5. Identify the timing and mechanism for implementing the
proposed relocation plan.
The implementation of the proposed fire station relocation plan is
subject to a collaborative agreement between the partiCipating
agencies. For the purpcses of this report, staff suggests the
follo~inq four process phases: 1) Agreements; 2) Acquisi
tion/Design; 3) Construction; and 4) consolidated operations. The
proposed time line is attached (Attachment Four).
Agreement Phase:
o Establishment of a Fire Station Relocation Task Force
with representatives from the City of Palo Alto, Mountain
view; Los Altos/LOS Altos Hills. Target date: February
15~ 1992~
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o Review Alternative Number ~ and make 2lJl'ler:.dr.;ents as needed.
and prepare a consensus draft oper-a~ional and implementa
tion plan for presentation to the respective City and
Town Councils for: conceptual approval anci co:ruments.
Target date: July 1992.
o pending the development of various staffing options, some
personnel issues may be sUbject to weet and confer with
affected employee groups~ As appropriate, this proceal.!re
may occur during this phase or at a later date prior to
commence~ent of operation3.
o Receive input from community interest groups as needed
and m,,'ke amendments to the operational and implementation
plan. Present final plan t~ the respective city and Town
Councils for QPproval~ Target date: Oecembe~ 1992~
Acquisition/Design Phase~
o Locate and negotiate the acquisition of property for
Station Number 4. Funding to be included in the 1993-94
inte~im budget through a Budget .~endment Ordinance.
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Target date to begin: December 1992
Target date to complete: July 1993
Desi qn Fire Stations Number 9 and 4.
includea in 1993-94 elP budget.
Target date to begin: July 1993
Target Date to complete: June 1994
Project Review and Constr~ction Phase:
Fund ing to be
o project review and Constructio" phase of the jOint fire
stations in lower Foothills and in South Palo Alto.
Funding to be included in the 1994-95 elP bUdget.
Target date to begin process: July 1994
Target date to complete: August 1995
Consolidated operations Phase;
o staff 'Will explore the possibility of joint staffing
prior to the co~pletion of construction of the new fire
stations.
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Ad~itional Issues
There are two adclitional issues that will need to be addressed
before final fire station mergers with Los Altos and Mountain View
occur.
First, the Arastradero prcperty ~ill ~eed to be reloned from Dpen
space to a use to facilitate a fire station. Secondly, the area
that has been identified as feasible for Fire station Number 4 may
have some toxic contamination. Depending on the location j staff
may recommend that a level one hazardo'lls materiaJ.s analysis be
undertaken. No cost estimate for this cleanup was added to the
breakeven calculation. The current owner is responsible for the
contamination or any future clean-up. This issue would have to be
carefully assessed during any discussions leading to the City's
acquiring property in the area.
Recommeildation
Based on yearly cost savings of over $600,000 per year beginning in
1999-2000, statf recommends the Council direct staff to develop a
tr!ulti-jurisdl.ctional Fire Station consolidation Plan ~i th the
Officials of Mountain View. Los Altos and Los Altos Hills. This
Consolidatio:l Plan 'Would be based on the concept outlined in
Altern~tive Number 4. as amended, of the Palo Alto Fire Department
Fire Station Location Study.
Respectfully sllb~itted,
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VIRGINIA HARRINGTON
Senior Financial Analyst
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ROBERT WALL
Fire Chief
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EM IL HARRI SON
Oirector opi~ance
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WILLI!'J1 ZANER
City ,Manager
cc: Los Altos City Man~ge,r, Dianne Gershuny
Mountain view City Manager, Kevin Duggan
Los Altos Fire Chief, Richard Lundrum
Mountain View FiI"e Chief, Hugh Holden
International Association of Federated Fire Fighters Local
1319, Anthony spitaleri, President
Palo Alto Chamber of Commerce Stanford Research Park committee
StanfoI"d Public Safety Department, Chief Marvin Herrington
Related Staff Reports: CMR:170:91
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COSTS
COSTS
BENEFITS
BENeFITS
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tt\ ATTACHMENTlWO .0
ARE s'M10N AELOCA TlON CALCUt.A TION (I 9-92 Oo~
Al::Iandon & Prepare rG/' Ni)W Use ".5
Pvrch.ase Property '993
Prap.are PTOI)trty lOt Construc:.tiO/"l 19 ..
DeiI;n Haw Station ,m
ConsIruc= Nft'Sla'lien '995
Sale of Propeny 1995
Contrit.l",i~t from City
$baling Building 1995
FIRE S1 A TlON ..
50
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$200,000
.$1,340,000
$1,540.000
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S77Q,OOoJ
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BENEFT"rn MINUS COSTS '995 (!77'O,OOO)
YEARlY SAVJNGSTO CITY OF PALO ALTO
1993-94 '"
'994-95 .,
1995-96 $2S0,49S
1996-97 S294.!528
1997-SS $306.291
19ge-.99 S324,7a'!
1999-00 5340,954
2000-0' $357,B52
NI.A4BER OF YEARS TO MAKE UP DEFICIT FROM FIRST EXPENOITURE
OF IroICINEY (1993-94) 4.6
(1) e.as..cr 01\ an $sl1mate 01 a COS1 $5.2..50 De, squa'e 1001
(2) Based on an 8$lirnaled s.aJe prICe oj .$34. 75 per SQuare root.
,' ..
F:RE ST A Tl ON ..
$6{1,OOO
S1,25{),OOO (1l
?
$210,000
$1,37C,000
$2,900,000
.$937,656 (2;
$790,000
:51,n7,556
{$1 ,1 72,344)
$0
$0
$2BO,499
S294.,52S
,JOe ,291
.$.324,720
$340,954
$357,(1;92
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TOTAl
$4,440,000
$2.,497,B56
(,1 .942 ,344)
00
$0
S555,03O
$59:3.292
$621 ,o~, 6
.$654, T1 0
:&685,813
$720,931
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ATTACHME~T THREE
ASSUMPTIONS
o The calculations have beeJ'l. adjusted for inflation using 1992
as a base year ~nd an inflation rate of 5 percent.
o When calculating the benefits minus the costs for-this
project~ it .... as assumed that the.r:"e would be no equipment
savings unless both parts of the proposal were ~ndertaken. If
this were the case, the City ~ould require one less engine in
future years. -
o The total salary and bu.ilding maintenance savings to the City
have been recluced by 30.3 percent to refle.ct the current joint
service revenue rei:;nbursement agreement fer fire service.s
betwe&n the city and Stanford University.
Operational Savings
o Operational savings 1.ri 11 pay for the project and are re.alized
throuqh retirement.. This assumes that an employee will retire
upon reaching retirement age (55) ~ Retirement age will be
reached by 10 employees in 1994-95. The calculation assumes
that three Fire Fighters, three Fire Apparatus operators and
three Fire captains will retire from the work force~ 'I'he
differences in salary between titles and what year p~rsonnel
in each title retire are not taken into account in this
calculation. Salary used in calculations is the top ~tep of
the Compen;ation Plan for each title~ A benefit rate o~ 57
percent was used~
Real Estate and construction Costs
o It is estimated that a 24,000 ft square lot would be required
for Fire Station 4. In the area identified as the optimum
location for station 4 property values range betwe.en $40 and
$50 per square foot or between $960,000 and $~j260,OOO for the
lot size required. There is no fa~tor for the cost required
to demolish any existing structure and prepare ~hatever
property is purchased in this calculation~
o The current piece of property on Which Fire station .. is
located Wuuld be sold and could be divided into three single
family residential lots of 9;000 square feet that would sell
for between $30 and $40 per square foot. Therefore, the city
Would realize between $937,600 and $1,190,000 from the sale of
the property that houses station 4.
o The capital costs for Fire Station 2 and Fire Statior. .. ~ere
estimated by the City's Public Works Depar-tment. The property
on which Fire Station 4 is located would have to have prepared
a new use, which will cost $60,000 for removing the existing
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building, existing hardscape and underground tank. This does
not include any unknown factors. The cost to design and build
a new station is approximately $1,580,000.
o It ~~uld cost approximately $1,540,000 to design and construct
a new Fire Station 2 on Arastradero Road. There vill be no
need for capital expenditures at the Hanover site of Station
Nwnber 2.
o No costs for furnishing the new fire stations or relocation of
the new stations have been included.
CMR:SJJ:91
AnACHEMENTFOUR
FIRE STATION RELOCATION STAFF REPORT
nMEUNE
1. AGREEMarT
establiSh task 10I'C8 with M!)un!ain View,
lo& AJlosIL~ Al:os Hills
Dfaft operation and implamenlafion ptan
101' r85;)eCltve Ciry and Town Qlur.cils.
Receive imput lrO'Tl community ar.d make
amendments to plan. Pre"Ser1! fir'lal plan to
CIty and Town Councils.
2. ACOOISrTJOHiOESIrGN
T AAG ET DATE:
BEG IN PROCESS:
COMPL8E PROCESS.
Desion Station 2 and Stalioo 4.
BeGIN PROCESS:
COMPlETE P~OCESS:
3. CONSTRIJCTJQN PHASE
CMtstr...c:tion.
BEGIN PROCESS:
COMPLETE PROCESS:
4. CONSOUOA. TEO OPEARA nONS PHASE
Begin joill1 $Wling 01 new Station 2. and S1alio~ 4.
STATiON ,2lSTATION 4. ---
Fabruary 15. 199~
July 1992
Oecember 1992
Decemtlitr 1992
July 1993
JLJ~J' 1993
June 1994
July 199>4
August 1995
Septt!mber 1995
FINANC~COMMITT~
MINUTES
1. Fire Station Location study
special Meeting
Dece~er lO, 199~
2. Additional survey Informatior. on
Real Property conveyance Tax
3. Business License Tax
4. LandscapejLightinq Assessmer.t District
5. Oral communica~ions
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6. Discussion of Future Meeting Schedules and Agendas 28
Adjournment at 10:02 p.m.
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Council ~ember Cobb called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. in the
Council Conference Room, 250 Hamilton Avenue, Palo Alto r
California.
PRESENT: Cobb, Kniss, Levy, McCo;"rn {arrived at 7:17 p.m.)
ABSENT: None
1. Fire Station Location Study
Fire Chief Robert Wall pointed out a few items in the sta.ff report
{CMR:S33:91) which needed emphasis. The fire chiefs and city
managers of the cities involved net to discuss the proposal and
indicated a growing interest. There was also interest in a full
scale conselidation. In the earlier report, the fire station in
the Research Park, station No.2; was designed to be closed, but
the plan had been modified. The priIilary reason was the importance
of the Research Park as a service center.
Council Member Levy asked tor a defL'1ition of "service center."
Chief Wall said a service center was a fire station. The proposal
was to retain the operation of the Research Park station as a
paramedic center and hazardous materials response unit~ The
financial analysis showed no benefit in the closure of Station No.
2 because if it were closed, the land ~ould revert back to Stanford
University. Also, the response area highlighted in the previous
report concerning the Greer Park neighborhood improved with the
current proposal and proposed relocation site at thE: Charleston
Road site. A typ~raphical error on Attachments 2 t 3, and 4 where
Fire Station No. ~ was mentioned should be station No.9, the lower
foothills station.
Council Member Levy asked about Attachment 2 which stated no yearly
savings in the .first couple of years with increased savings in the
later years. He asked if the reason was the number of years to
complete the project.
Chief Wall said yes.
Senior Financial Analyst Virginia Harringto~ said the savings were
the result of attrition of firefighters through retirement.
Council Member Levy said the stations would not be available until
1995, and a 4 pe~cent inflation factor ~as used.
Ms. Harrington said a 5 percent factor was used.
Council Member Levy
the calculation.
facilities.
asked if any operating costs were left O'.lt of
He often found rent was not imputed to
Chief wall said the report was fairly comprehensive.
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Finan=e Director Emily Harrison said there was an unknown factor
involving the site acquired; hazardous ~aterials cleanup could be
required with the Charleston Road site.
Chief W~11 said the nature of the report could be refined to
develop an agreement, with professionals ~o assist.
Council Member Levy asked if there were extra costs connected 'With
personnel retirement.
Chief Wall said costs were reflected in the report, and he did not
visualize further co~ts.
Council M~mber Levy asked if Mountain view and Los Altos would own
half the facilities but not the land.
Chief Wall said yes.
Council Member Levy asked if the rationale ",'as the land was in the
city of Palo Alto's limits~
Chief Wall said yes.
Council Member Levy queried whether Palo Alto would pay for the
land if something were being done in Mountain View.
Ms. Harrison said the decision was made to facilitate flexibility
at a future date should the city decide to do something else with
the site.
Council Member Levy asked who owned the land~
Ms~ Harrison said Palo Alto owned the land~
Council Member Kniss thouqht the idea was superb and gave the City
a number of opportunities for saving money and a great deal of
flexibility. She asked how the two groups would function in a way
which was comfortable for bo~h groups.
Chief Wall said those 'Woult! be negotiated issues. Although thE:!'
stations would be jointly operated, one city ~ould operate and
statf a station while the other city pai~ its share of operating
costs. The other op~ion would be for one city to staff a station
for a period of time and the other city to staff the next year~
Those kinds of issues would be worked out during disc'Ussions. It
was even possible for beth cities to staff a station at the same
timer but it ~ould be the most diffic~lt to manage~
Council Member Kniss was concerned w.ith the location of the
Arastradero station which would he rezoned from open spac~ status~
She asked for jus~ification for the location, if it was critical to
have a station in that location, and if there was an alternative.
Chief Wall said there we~e alternatives. staff attempted to locate
site-specific locations based on the criteria of reasonableness,
economics, and response time. In the lower foothills r Los Altos
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Hills and the Los Altos Hills Fire District owned land for future
tire stations Which were available but were not ideal locations far
a joint operation~ There was the possibility of the availability
of another more feasible locati~n. The report was very
theoretical.
council Member K~iss said location was one of her greatest
concerns~ The remainder of the report ~as very intriguing as far
as the cost containme~t outlined. She was concerned about putting
all the parts together and making the plan ~o~x.
council Member cobb referenced the improvement of response time to
Greer Park and asked if the refer~nce actually m~ant the
neiqhborhood.
Chief Wall said yes~
Council Member Cob~ asked about the delayed relocation of the Alma
street station because of lack of cost savings (page 2,
CMR~S33 :91). He said "delay" and iIIlack of cost savings" seemed
incongruous and asked if the relocation would ever occur~
Chief Wall said .sta.t.t was unable to arrive at an appropriate
location in the downtown area for an adequate recommendation. The
cost of land was high, and moving the Alma street Station to the
downtown area would not reduce perscnnel~ It would only imp~ove
response til!le.
Council Member Cobb suggested 'Wording W'hich 'Would focus more. on
rasponse time, with appropriate recommendations for moving. He
asked for identification of the property on "Che 800 block of
Charleston and asked if the City did not purchase the property,
what the status of the proposal would be~
Manager of Real Es~ate Bill Fellman said the property was a two
story building for sale at 844 Charleston Road with a vacant lot
across the street from it on the west side on the Palo Alto side of
San Antonio Road~ The property was used in the study to facilitate
an estimate of property values.
Council Member Cobb was concerned about areas which had poor
response time in the map provided. Tbe Charleston Road location
would eliminate the poor response time a~ea, which he thought was
an important consi-:1eration. He also asked whether the Eichler
bo~es at the south end of town normally served by that station were
then at hiqher risk with a joint station with Mountain View and the
possible Shoreline location~
Chief Wall said no; in the. situation described, if the station
nearest the Greer Park area was busy on a call, a secondary station
would be on-call as a backup. When a primary station was not
avai1able, a secondary station covered the area~
Council Member Cobb said discussions concerning the possibility of
joint staffing prior to completion of construction of the stations
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seemed a little late~ He thought discussions should begin sooner
than that~
Chief Wall said the discussions would begin. An agreement would be
entered. into after -which there would be a long process for
construction. Consolidation of staffing should be accomplished as
quickly as possible, even prior to completion of the station.
council Kember Cobh asked about development of a pl~n which woule
lead 'to full consolidation of the threllil: depa.rtments with ever.
greater savings possibili'Cies. He thought Palo Alto would be
better oft looking at the more global approach in the early stages
because. a. future partial step could be found inefficient if the
qlobal approach were adopted later.
Chief Wall said it was not a concern~ In the meetings ~ith other
fire chiefs, city managers~ and labor representatives, the approach
had been d.iscussed.. If early in the process the officials
determined the best recommendation was full consolidation, then the
recommendation would be returned to the Finance committee.
Chairperson McCown asked where the break-off stage~ ~ere.
Chief Wall said the issue had been discussed at the l~st meeting.
All parties realized a commitment of staff time vas r~quired and
costly. The ~ost efficient method meant meeting a couple of times
a ponth to 'Wor)c: on the details. ThE!. point of grea't.er investment cf
dolla.r& would .be onCe the Joint Powers Agreement (JPA) ilas dra.wn
up. At that point, the JPA would be: re.turned to the Finance
Co .. itt.. for approval. Beyond the point of the JPA, the
acquisition of property would be the second ju1t',p-off point.
council Ke&:ber cobb queried a provision to consider after the
stations had been built if the performance of one of the part~ers
wa5 not up to Palo Alto's standards.
Chief Wall said n~nperformance ~ould be an ele~ent included in the
a9re~ent which ~ould be a condition of termina~ion.
Council Me~r Kniss asked about other departments incorporating
the consolidation i&5ue.
Chief Wall askeQ if she meant consolidation in general or
specifically.
council Member Kniss ~aid putting three or four cities together.
Chief Wall said it was not uncommon. The closest exa~ple was in
1976 when Palo Alto consolidated ~ith Stanford. Another example
was the San Carlos lind Belmont consolic1ation for a fire authority.
Contra costa County ha~ been consolidating districts for the past
15 years in an effort to maintain service and lower costs. One
element of the preliminary work would include discussions with the
cities who had incorporate.d. to determine hoW' the program ...... as
working.
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Council Member Kniss said
ether examples to discover
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the City CQuld benefit from examining
proclems ~hich could arise.
Richard Rosenbaum, 717 Garland Drivel as\(eo ho ..... the plan could save
money for the three cities. Palo Alto would save money because it
would need nine fewer firefighters I but he asked hol6.-much Mountain
view and Los Altos would save.
Chief ~al1 said the same savings opportunity ..... as avail~ble for the
other cities. Mountain View and Palo Alto both had fire stations
near the Mountain View/Palo Alto border which would be combined;
each city would save half its operations cost.
Mr. Rosenbaum askad if Mountain View would reduce its personnel~
Chief Wall said Mountain View could either relocate or reduce
per~onn~l, but he did not know the plans~
Mr. Rosenbaum as;ked what Mountain Vie,..'s incetltive .... as.
Chi;ef Wall said Mountain VieW' r.eeded another tire station, y,'hich
the consolidation -would help ease. It would allow a shift of
~r&onn.l to accommOdate the need. In the hills, there 'Was a
si9ftiticant area of Los Altos which was contiguous with Palo Alto
which needed a tire station and better service.. For Los ~.ltos it
vas & _ore economical way to add a station to an area which needed
service. If Palo Alto did not consolidate and Los Altos alected to
add a station, it would cost the full amount.
President of the Fire Fighters Union Tony spilateri said the fi~e
unions had met to discuss full consolidation, and the consensus of
the Onion was it .. as the way to go. Consolidation would increase
service efficiency and reduce duplication througho~t the cities.
The Union was interested in s<llpporting the Palo AltO/Mountain
View/Los Altos Hills consolidation as the first step to~~rd the
bigger picture.. He spoke on behalf of other unions which were
involved to confirm their support of the current study as ~e~l as
full consolidation in other areas including paramedics~ hazardous
materials, etc., to increase the ~evels of service.
Lois Vanderbeek, 736 Barron Avenue, requested the Hanover Station
remain a full fire station rather than an additional station in the
foothills area near residential buildings. She thought Palo Alto
was d~in9 more than its share in building two stations in the City ..
She aske~ for more data regarding how Mountain View would benefit
and for the regional scheme .. A fire station near one's home was a
neqative factor because of the noise level and lowered quality of
life. She asked the Finance committee to carefully consider the
study.
John Mock l 2823 Alma Stre~tJ was familiar with the Arastradero Road
property and thouqht it was very danqerous~ especially at the "Big
Send" wbich~ although it was the fastest route, could be very
d&ngerou5 to bicyclists as well as automobiles. He encouraged
environmental studies prior to any decision or construction of a
station.. He ~ntiQned an area wh.ich was. superior to the
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Arastradero location which already had a fire station planned for
it. The study indicate~ five years before any tiscal benefit to
t~e City at a time w~en the eCQnomy was worse than it ~culd be in
five years. He suggested removing paramedic services from the
General.FUnd account and putting the services into an assessment·
district and closing the lower Ar8stradero Road station inste~d and
putting the new station at Puris;sima Road. It 'Was offensive to
offer the land for a station after the Town of Los Altos Hills
permitted the construction of an egregiously bad deve.lopment on
Arastradero Road which contradicted the comprehensive plan
objectives for the aJ'ea and defied the os zoning requiremer:ts.. He
urged the rejection of a station in or !"lear the Arastradero
Preserve.
council Member Xniss sugg~sted the recommendation pe split into two
parts. The first part would be based on yearly cost savings of
over $600,000 per year beginning in 1999-2000, that the Fin~nc~
Committee recomm-end to the City Council that it direct staff to
develop a multi-jurisdictional Fire St:'1tion Consolidation Plan 'With
the officials of Mountain View, Los Altos, and Los Altos Hills.
The second part 'Would be th~ Consolidation Plan be based on the
concept outlined in Alternative Numper 4, as amended. of the Palo
Alto Fir~ Department Fire St~tien Location Study which the
Committee would discuss.
Chairperson McCown asked if she sugqpsted a change in the second
sentence.
Council Member Kniss said yes~ She had difficulty recommending a
plan which placed a potential site on the Arastra site as listed
under -Discussion-(page 2, CMR:533:91). She would not ~ant to
recoJllJlend that location to Council.
Council Member Cobb asked if there were alternatives which created
few-er areas where the response times were r.ot up to appropriate
standards.
Chief Wall said there might b~ an alternative~ He was willing to
look for other sites with Los Altos Hills to find an appropriate
alternative~ If the Finance Committee's d.esire was to give a
specific direction not to consider the 77 acres but rather to find
another site, staff ~ould do that.
Chairperson McCown asked if council Member Kniss 'Wanted direction
to be qiven not even to consider the Arastradero property or have
it remain one of the options~
Council Member Kniss said unless there was semething so c~mpellin9
about the Arastradero property and there was no other alternative,
she preferred it not be an option. She preferred the direction
Would be to eliminate it as a possibility.
MOTIOS: Council Member Levy moved, seconded by McCown, that the
Finance committee recommend that the city council direct staff to
develop a multi-jurisdictional Fire Station Consolidation Plan 'With
the officialS of Mountain View. Los Altos, and Los Altos Hills
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based on yearly cost savings of over $600,000 per year beginning in
1999-2000. This Consolidation Plan would be b4sed on the concept
outlined in Alternative Number 4, as amended, of the Palo Alto Fire
Department Fire Station Location Study.
council 'Member Cobb suggested 'Wording in the !!lotion that the
committee would prefer not having the station at the Arastradero
location ..... ith the instruction to staff to look at other ways to
accomplish the same objective rather than locating in the 77 ac~es.
Chairperson McCown said specifically the CottJ'llittee lJr'ould direct
staff to pursue alternatives other than the 77 acres because of
concern about 'its desirability.
Council Member Kniss 'Was 'Willing to support the study but was
uncomfortable with the. location. She did not wa:1t the message
about the Arastradero location diluted in the future.
Chairperson McCown suggested adding a further recommendation to
staff to pursu~ other alternative foothill sites as opposed to the
ArastraQ~ro site with ~he goal of finding a better and preferred
alternative to the Arastradero site.
Council Member Kniss clarified the language as ftfurther direct.n
AKENDVDrl': Chairperson McCown moved t seconded by Kniss, to further
direct staff to pursue othar alternative sites in the foothills as
Qpposed to the Arastradero site.
~ AND SECONDER AGREED TO INCORPORATE 'l"'RE AMENDHEN'l' IN 'I'BE :MAIN
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Chairperson McCown did not see the plan as a response to near-term
.financial pressures of the City. She saw it as e long-term
sensible strategy for the City which l',ad been in the laIorks for some.
time prior to the current budget cycle. The city should retain
exit places if the study demonstrated the City coule not achieve
the desired goals. A sharp eye should be kept on the City's
investment in time and whether the long-term significant savings
continued to exist. It 'Was not an absolute given that the course
of action would produce the desired results~
Council Member Cobb supported Chairperson McCown's comments. He
was glad to see the Union laIas supportive of the issues and 'hoped it
would continue to be an active part of the process. He hoped the
global issues would be revle~ed early in the process so no false
moves would occur. He cautioned, given the area of location
consideration, that homes which vere fire-sensitive, such as the
Eichler homes, ~ere not placed in lower response time areas.
Council Member Kniss did not wish to dilute the effectiveness of
the study. She hoped there would be opportunity for the public to
comment about locations, both too near or too far alalay from their
residencB.s.
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· ~ Chairperson McCown asked when the item would go b~fore council.
Ms. Harrison replied January 21, 1992.