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HONORABLE CITX-COUNCIL
Palo Alto z California
3000 Alexis Drive z .'Pplication by Palo Alto Hills Golf and
Country Club for Conditional Use Permit and Site and Design
Review
Members of the Council:
Report. in Brief
This report forwar.ds the Pla~ing Commission recommendation on a
Use Permit and Site and Design application to allow: 1) the
renovation and expansion of the Palo Alto Hills Golf and Country
Club's existing clubho'Jse from 27,584 square feet to 32 z 396
square feet {net exp~~ion of 4,812 square feet); and 2} the
minor expansion and restriping of the parking lot to provide 57
additional spaces. k~ analysis of the project is contained in
the Planning Commission staff report dated January 26~ 1994. A
copy is attached. Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting are
aleo attached.
Planning Commission Acti~
The Planning commission, at its meeting of February 9~ 1994.
voted 6-0-1 (COmmissioner Carrasco absent). to recommend City
Council adoption of the mitigated negative declaration and
approval of the requested Use Permit and Site and Design
application (see the a'ttached minutes). The Commission indicated
that the Country Club clearly provides benefits to the community;
that after 30 years~ there is a need to update the facility; the
applicant is not relying on a significant increase in the number
of members to finance the proposed improvements; and the current
project is much more thought out and has less opposition from Lhe
neighbors compared to the previous plan which was c!enied. The
Commission modified condition A.1 (below) to allow the ARB to
review and approve a new chimney for the club and a lower-profile
design for the proposed central spine on the roof, which would
allow more light into the club interior whil~ minimizing the
impacts on neighborsZ scenic views. The Commission also added a
condition requiring that t~e project landscape architect provide
cor,lltruction administration services and submit a letter to the
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City indicating 'Whether the new la.ndscaping is installed
accordjng to plan. The changes recommended by the Commission are
incorporated into the condit~o~s below and are shown in italics
(added ~ording) and strike-outs {deleted word~ng} .
ARB Action
The _~chitectll.ral Re\Tiew Beard conducted a preliminary review of
the project on October 21. 1993 and indicated general support for
the project (see the attached minutes). Noted concerns were the
neighbor's viewB, lighting, roof appearance r landscaping ~,d
colors/materials.
The current plans will be reviewed by the Architectural Review
Board at their meeting on February 17th. Prior to the ARB
meeting, the applicant intends to submit study sketches of the
elevations in response to Condition A.l. The ARB action will be
presented verbally at the February 22nd meeting (d~e to the tight
scheduling, the ARB minutes will TAot be available at the February
22nd City Council meeting). It was necessary to reschedule the
ARB meeting to February 17th after the Planning Commission
continued its hearing from January 26th to February 9th.
FINDINGS
The findings of the conditional use permit and site and design
application are contained in the attached Planning Commission
staff report dated January 26, 1994.
CONDITIONS
The following conditions of the Use Permit and Site and Design
Application are recommended by the Planning Commission in support
of the proposal:
A. Prior to Submisaion for a Building Permit
1. The applicant shall redeSign the cb.i:m:2ey and central roof
·spine-element to min.imize tbe impact. on scenic vieW's from
adjacent residences Be Eftat:, ae seel'lie .iewe ar:e eleehiee ifetR
a~aeeBE enist:!:I'!o!f l!'eeiseftees. The qs,liedCflt'e 8ftall alee
eli~F.a~e ~he ~~e e'er) eft~MRel that: pre~PQaeB Beale eae
~eeilifte. These changes would be subject to ARB review and
approval.
2. The applicant shall remove the three parking spaces aloDg
the easternmost parking aisle (see Attachment 12) to provide
sufficient room for two~way t~affic.
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3. The applicant shall provide some additional bi.:ycle parking
in a convenient location. The numbe~ ot spaces and locat~on
shall be subject to revie~ and appruval of the City~9
Transportation Division, prior tc ARB revie· .....
4. The applicant shall revise the landscaping plan to include
only low groundcover (less than six inches) within the sight
line dra~~ on Attachment 13. This sight line is to ensure
that exiting drivers C~~ see an approachins southbound
vehicle on Alexis Drive at least 300 feet away. Visi.bil:"ty
from this distance will eneure ade~~ate time for the exiting
vehicle to accelerate, cr~ss the soutr~und traffic lane and
turn left into the northbound lane.
5. The new club ID sign shall be relocated to the outside of
the sight distance line shown in Attachment 13 &nd is
subject to review and approval by the ARE.
6. Tbe dirt berm ~ithin the sight distance line shown in
Attachment 13 shall be lowered by about six' inches to ensure
the 300 foot driver sight line is maintained.
7. The applicant shall d~monstrate how the re~ainiog unimproved
ro-of equipment will be trea.ted to improve the visual
appearance, subject to review and ARB approval.
8. The applicant shall provide a private outdoor area for use
by on-site employees, subject to ARB review and approval.
SUch area shall be located so that it cannot be viewed by
adjacent residences. The applicant shall also improve the
appearance of the worker housing roof either by re
asphalting the roof or usi~g some other type of roofing
material~ to make it more attractive when viewed from
neighbors living above the club.
B. Prior to Issilap.re of a ~nq 'Cernit
None
C. Prio; to Occu.P'ancy
1. The applicant shall retain the STOP sign on the egress lane
of the site access drive~
2. The applicant shall provide adequa~e exterior lighting to
ensure pedestrian safety and building security~ All
entrances should be lighted with a minimum 60 watts of
photocell lighting. Light fixtures should be placed high
enough to be vandal resistant and should be protected by a
wire or plastic cove~. Other activity areas such as
walkways and the parking lot should be lighted with a
minimum of 1/2 footcandle~
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3. The applicant shall modify the exist ing exterior l~ghtin9 dl
the clubhouse roof and near the pool area ~o ~hat 1t does
net shine in the windows of adjacent neighb0rs' homes,
subject to review and approval by the ~~.
4. The applicant s~all install a fully automatic fire sprinkler
system and fire extin~~isherB throughout the clubhouse
building.
5. The applicant shall provide emergency li9h~ing and signage.
per Fire Department regulations, throughout the clubhouse
structure.
6. The project landscape architect shall provide construction
administration services and submit a letter to the planning
Division indicating wbether the new landscaping is insta.lled
ac~ording to plan.
D. CngOiM
1. The applicant snaIl maintain the hedges to the right of an
exiting driver to the height identified in Attachment 14.
This is to ensure that the 300 foot driver sight line is
maintained, subject to ongoing review by the City's Code
Enforcement Officer.
2. The applicant shall continue to maintain the traffic
journal. investig~te and respond to all neighbor complaints
regarding parking or other matters and limit special events
to no more than 12 in one calendar year. The applicant
shall submit the projected special event calendar for each
upcoming year to the Zoning Administrator; and shall
continue ~o keep records of the Dumber of persons attending
in order to mo~itor compliance with this condition. The
traffic journal and a record of any neighbor complaints
sh&11 be made available for review by the Zoning
Administrator on an as requested basis.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff rec':){lunends t.hat the City Council, Cased en the findings
contained in the Planning Commission staff report dat~d January
26~ 1994 and the conditions above f adopt the attached negativ~
declaration and approve the Conditional Use Permit and Site and
Design Application~
Respectfully submitted.
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ROBERT SCHUBERT ~
Planner
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Assistant City Manager
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KENNETH R. SCHREIBER
Director of Pl~~ing and
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Environmental Impact Assessment
1/26/94 Planning Comrnission staff report (Council Members Only)
Draft minute9 of 2/9/34 Planning Commission meecing {Council
Members Only)
Comments from the Public (Council Members Only)
plans lc¢uncil Members Only)
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Planning Commission
Architectural R.eview Board
carrasco & Associates. 120 Hamilton Avenue. Palo
Sal Giovanotto; 3090 Alexia Drive, Pale Alto, CA
Don Klag~s, 281 Universitey Avenue
Lyn Nelson, 3000 Alexis Drive
Jerry schwartzman. 3077 Country C~ub Drive
Mathew Burley~ 4030 Moorpa~k Avenue, San Jose
Steve Sape£stein, 3089 Country Club Court
Frank Kelly, 45 Alannah Court
Diane Bottoms. 3~Ol Alexis Drive
Gary. Griffithl 555 Carla Court
John Smithson, 1151 Shen~,doah Drive
Jim N~lson, 3030 Country Club Court
Barbara Deerkop, 2,944 ~exis Drive
Hide Tanigami, 3113 ~exis Drive
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EnvironlTl€f1tal ClOCumerts -CHy o~ Palo Alto
ENVI~Al ASSESSMENT
P!"'oject Descriptior./Tltle: Conditional Use Permlt and S,te and Deslgn _
Agprqval for a net expansiop pf 4 812 s.f. to tne Palo Alto Country Club's
club house and II minor el<odosTgD and restr-fping of the R3rklng lot to prQ .... ~de
57 additional spaces.
location/Address: 3000 Alexis Drive Palo Alto. CA 94J04
Spoosoring Agency/Applicant: Carrasco & Associates Attn: L4ncla Ludden
Address and Telephone of Applic.nt: 120 Hamiltqn Ave. Palo Alto LA 943Q1
Telephone: 415/322·2288
Application for: Cooditiangl Use Permit/Site and Design Approval
{e.g., zoning change. subdivision of property, architectura.l revi€\ltl. use
pennitl
Loning at Project location, os Fee Receipt No. 93-666
NOTICE Of DETERMINATION
Based upon review of the project files. the undersigned member of the Planning
Depa rtmet1t has concluded:
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NegatiYe Declaration: The project has no signi'ficant envircrrnental
impact. No Environmental Impact Rep.1rt is required. Tne reasons for a
Declaration are: listed in the attached Initial Study. A recQrd~
oroiect action is ava~lable for review at the Department of Planning and
Community EnvirOnment between the hours of SOD AM and 12 noon and 1:00
PM to 5:00PM lQCated at 250 Hamllton Aven"" 5th F1QQr Palo Alto CA
94301.
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Planning Department Official:
Planning Director:
The project has been approved.
The project has been denied.
Revised B/l!79
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ENVIqONMENTAI DC{UMEi>lTS -PALO ALTO
INITIAl STlJDY" **
1. Project Title/Address: 3000 Alexis.Q[ill....fllQ Alto CA 94304
II.
III. EnVlrlY.1lTlental Setti~: The project is located in the Citr's open space
distnct on a site that is fully de' ... eTooed as a fun service 18 hole goTf
and country club. The Ciub house addition wi II be p1aced wah; 0 an
improved area at the front of the existing bUl1dlng
IV. En~iromental I~ct Checklist (Explanation of all 'yes' answers are in
Section Vi
L Earth. ,111 the propesal result in:
a.
b.
c.
Unstable earth conditJons or changes
in geologic substructures'
Disruptions, displacements, compac
tion or overcovering of the soil
Change in topography or ground
surface relief features?
d. The destruction, covering or modi
fication of any unique geologic or
Physical features? .
e. Any increase in wind or water erosicm
of soils, either on or off the sitE?
f. Exposure of people or property to
gec 1 ogi c haza rds su.ch as earthquakes.
landslides, ~Jdslides, ground failure
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or Similar hazards? _x_
9. Changes in siltation, deposition, or
erosion Which may modify the channel
of • river OC the bed of • bay or
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* Adapted from Appendix I, CalifDrria Guidelines for Implementation of
CEQA, December 14, 1976.
** Updated May 1982. June 1983
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2. Air. ~ill the pr0PQsal result ~n: YES ]:lAYS" J!.Q
a. Substantial air emissions or de-
ter,or~tion of ambient air Quality? _X_
b. The creatiDr1 of objectionable odors? _X_
c. Alteration of air movement. moisture
te!l"!)erature. or any change in cl i-
mate. either locally or regional? _x_
3. !lili!:. Will the proposal result in:
a. Changes in absorption rates. drainage
patterns. or the rate and amount of
surface water runoff? ..L
b. Alterations to the course or flow of
flood waters? _X_
c. Discharge into surface .~ters. or in
any alteration of surface water
quality. including but not limited to
t~rature. dissolved oxygen or
tur idity1 _X_
d. A lterati on of the di red i on or rate
of flow of ground ~ters? _X_
e. Exposure c f people or pl"operty to
water related hazards such as flood-
ing or tidal wave? ...L
f. Change 1n the qU3ntity of ground
waters. either through direct
additions or withdrawals. or through
ir,terceptions of an aquifer by cuts
or excavati~s? _X_
4. El~nt ~if~ Will t.o. prcposal result in:
a. Change in t.he diversity of species. or
nLll1ber of ar,y s~i es of p 1 ants (i n-
chlding trees. shrubs. grass. crops.
microflora and aquatic plants)? _t_
b. Reduction of the nLllt>ers of any
unique. rare or endangered species
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c. I~troducti;:Jn of n€'~ specie~ of
plarlts into an area, or 1n a borner
to the normal replenishment of
exi st i ng specl es?
C. Reduction in acreage of any
agricultural crop>
5. ~"imal..lifg. ~i 11 the proposal result i o.
a
b.
d.
Change In the diverslty of species.
or number of any species of ani~ls
(birds, land animals including
reptlles, fish and shellfish. benthic
organ~sms, i~sects or mfcrofauna)?
Reduction of the n~rs of any
'Jfl"ique, rare or endangerM species
of animals?
Introduction of new soecies of
arlimals into an area,' Dr result 1n
a barrier to ttle migration or move
ment of aniwal;?
Deterioration in existing fisn or
wi ldlife 11abitat?
6. ~. Will the proposal result in:
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a, Increases in existing noise Tevels? -L-
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b. Exposure of people to severe noise
levels? _x_
7.
8.
ligr.t and Glar~. Will tne proposal
produce new light glare?
Land Use, ~ill the proposal result in
a substantial alteration of the present
or planned land use of an area?
9. Energy/Natural ResourceS. Will the
proposal result in:
a. Use of substantial amounts of fuel
Gr energy:
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d.
Substantiai lnc;"'ease in demand upon
existing sources of ener'gy. or
require the oevelopment of new
sources or energy?
Increase in the rate of use of ar.y
natural resources?
Substantial depletion of any nonre·
newable natural resource? .
10. Risk of Unset. Does the proposal
invcllve a risk. of an explosion or the
release of hazardous substances (in
cluding. but not limited to. oil.
pesticides. chemicals or radlation) 1n
tr~ event of an accident or urset?
11. POQUlat1on/Houslog.
a. Will the proposal alter the location.
distribution. density. or growth rate
of the htman popu1ation of an area?
b. Inll the proposal effect e"sting
housing. or create a demand for
additional housing?
12. Tr3DsQOrtatjpn/Circylatjqn. Will the
proposal result in:
a. Generation of substantial additional
vehicu1ar movement?
b. Effects on e"sting parking facili-
ties. or demand for new parking' _X_
c. AlteratiDn$ to present patterns of
circulation or IOOV<m2nt of people
andlor goods?
d. Increase in traffic hazards to motor
vehicles. bicy~lists or pedestrians'
13. Pub;ic Services. Wlll the proposal have
an effect upon. or result in a need for new
or altered governmental services 1n any of
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the follow4ng areas:
a. fire protection?
b. Police protection?
c. Schools:
d. Parks Dr other recreational
f,ci] iti es?
e. Maintenance of p'.Jbl ic facilities,
including roads?
f. Other governmental services?
14. !!tlljtJes. W1l1 the proposal result i" a
need for r.ew systems. or substantial
a 1 terati ens to the fo 11 owi ng ut ill t i e5:
a. Power or natural gas?
b. Communications syst~?
c. Water?
d. Sewer or septic tank'
e. Storm water drain,ge?
f. Solid waste and disposal?
15. Human Health. Will the proposal result
in:
a. Creation of any health hazard or
potential health hazard (excluding
mental health)?
b. Exposure of people to potential
hea 1 th hazards?
16. Aesthetics Will the proposal resuit
in the obstruction of any scenic vista
or view open to the public. or .oJi the
propesal result in the creation of an
aesthetically offensive site open to
public view? _1_
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17. Recreation ~i 11 the p,.o~osa1 re$ult
in an ;Ill'act upon the qua Hi or quant1ty
of existing recreational opportunities?
18. Cu l tu r,l ResQurces.
2. Wi 11 the proposal result in the
alteration of lor the destruction
of a prehistoriC or historic
archaeological site?
b. Will the proposal result in ad-
verse pr~sic.l or aesthetic effects
to a prehistoric or historic
~Jilding. structure: or object?
c. Does the p~sa1 have t.he potential
to cause a ysic.1 change wtlich
·.oold affect unique cultural values?
d. Will the propos.' restrict existing
religious or sacred uses >nthin the
potential impact area?
19. Handatory Findings of Significance.
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a. Does the project have the potential to
degrade the quality of the env1ronment.
~~~t~~t ~ 1 ~{i f~:!:~~;. h~~~~t a o~i ~h
or wildlife PQ?U1ation to drop below
self-sustaining levels, threaten to
eliminate a plant or animal cotrnUnlty.
reduce the number or restrict the
_,ange of a "are vr endangered pl.nt or
ani~41 or eliminate important eXdmples
of the major periods of Calif~-nia
history or prehistory?
b. Does the project have the potential
to achieve short-term. to the dis
advantage of long-teno. e1vironmental
goals! (A short-term i;rpact on the
e~vironment ;s one which occurs in a
relatively brief. definitive period
of time wtlile long. term impacts will
endure we 11 into t he future.)
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Does the project have impacts wtich
are indi·'idually limited. but
cumulatively considerable? (~pro·
ject .o3y ;"""ct ()f1 two or more
separate resources wh~re the impact
or. each resource is relatively
small. bc't where the effect of the
total cf those impacts on the
environment is significant,)
Does t~ project ha'ol€ ~vi ronmenta 1
effects which ..... i11 cause substantial
adverse effects on human beings.
either directly or indirectly?
Y. (>qllanatiDn of 'yes' answers in envirorrnent,l checKlist.
See attached.
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Earth (b 1.L Construction of the project \<,'111 d,srupt site 50115 dn~
result in mlil0r Changes to existing slte topography in frollt of the C1UD
house fac1l,ties. No s·,gnificant grading "lH result from the additlOn,
A detailed grad:ng ond drainage plan shall b€ required for review and
approv31 of the City Engineer pno r to lssuance of any grading and or
building permits,
The site is located within a $eis~ic area of rojerate rlsk. and 'tOoLlil:l' be
subject to very str';Jng ground shaking in the e .... ent of an earthquake. ATl
construction 00 the sHe shall b€ subject to the provisions of the most
current Uniform Buildlng Code (USC>. portions of which are olrected at
minimizing, seism;c risK and pre'Jentlng loss of life and property in the
event of an earthquake.
Water (a). The development of the sHe wl11 result in minor alteratioos
to existing drainage patterns. A detailed drainage pl,n shall be requlred
to be approved by the City Engineer prior to issuance of a Building
Permit.
Pl ant life (a)" Oeve 1 opment of the prGj~t wi 11 i nyo 1 'lie the remova 1 of
minor exist~ng landscaping that is establisned around the clubhousp Th:s
material is primarily ornamental and wi n be replu;:~d fullOwi r!g cOIT'pletion
of the additiOl'. E1ght ornamental trees will b€ rem<Jved but a total of 52
ornamental trees (Chinese pistache. European olive and crape myrtle) and
42 native trees {California live oak) 'ftj"ill be p1an~cd resulting i!l a net
ga1n in plant life on the site.
Noise Cal. Constructior activities will t~rdrily increase aOOient noise
levels in the area. Coostruction activities 'fi 11 be subject to COO'!ll ianee
.ith the provisions of tne City's NOise Ordinance (PAM( C~apter 9.10),
~L. The proposed expansior woold create an open room that can seat
approximately 30 addition,l people for multi-usa space and 50 additional
people fo< single-use sJ)ilce, l4t\ile this does represent an intensification
of the usage of the room additional par'ing to accommodate this increase
wi li be provided, Also the appl iCdnt has indicated in his submittal
letter the willingness to not er£eed the present usage in party boo'ings
(page 3 of the Nove<lber 5. 1993 letter to Nancy Lytl eJ. As part of the
ConditiOllal Use Permit process. conditions cocld b€ established to
restrict the number of events tnat can be conducted in the facilities.
TransoortatiQn/Ci rculatiQ!l (a b dJ A traffic study prepared by HULTITR"'15
Transportation Consultants in October 1993 found that the additional
traffic generated by the exparosion would not produce any change in levels
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of service at intersections. The study determjr~ th,t site distance at
the existing access drive is St;«rely limited but the applicant has
p~vided. median channelization to adequately .ddress this coocern. ·The
addi tiona 1 par. i ng (57 spaces) prov; ded by the proposed proje.."t s 1 i ght 1y
exceeds City standards.
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The traffic stl.!dy was rei,'iewed by the CH.Y"s transportation division .... t1ich
coocurred with the findings of the report .,\M the exceptior of prevision
of additional bicycle par<ing. The number of bicycle spaces needed can be
determined through the project conditions
16. wthetics. The roofline on the proposed add,tion 1<,11 be h1gher
than the existing one. Based on the submitted pl.ns it may create a minor
visual impact 011 two resid€f1ts. This impact can be addressed through
proper building design and select,on of building matenals.
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PREPARED BY:
PLA.1IJNING COMMISSION
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PALO ALTO PLANNlNG COMMISSION
Brenda Gillarde
STAFF REPORT
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REPORT IN BRIEF: 3000 N .. P.X!S DRIVE: Applkation by Palo Alto Hills Golf and
Country Club for Conditional Use Permit (Recreation Use) and Sire and Design review to
aUow: 1) the renovation and expansion of the Palo AI,. Hills Golf and Country Club's
existing club house from 27,584 •. f. to 32,396 s.f. (11<1 expansion of 4,812 s.f.); and 2) the
minor expa!lSlon and resIriping of the paTldng 101 to provide 57 additional p.uklng spaces.
Enyjmgm;ptal "snmrr:t= No significant impact. A Negative
DeclaratiOJ! w.. I""'I"'J'<d and is >ttacbod.
7-9Oe Disttjct: os
File NOS : 93-UP-35, 93-D-5, 93-ElA-34, 94-~
APPyCATION INF9}!Mt,ollQN
Type of Applkation:
Dates:
Carru:o &: As50cialcs
120 HamiIIo .. A~
Palo Aha
(41S) 322·2288
Conditional Use Permit and Sile and Design
Approval
AppIi<aliOD r=iv«l 11-05-93; Applkation colDPleIe
12-94-93; Mandatory actioD deadline ~
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Application temal.ivoly ",!w'n'"", fo< ARll _ on
Fe!nuary 3 and City Council on Febnwy 22, 1994.
01-26-94
Amended 2-15-94
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Owner:
AsJessor's Pucel Numl>er:
Ccmproboooive Plan Designation:
ExistiD8 Lmd Use:
Surrwnding Lam Use:
ExistiD8 Zoning:
Pan:elSizc:
PROJECT INFORMATIQN
Palo AlIO Hills Golf & CouDlIy Club
3000 Alexis Dri vo
PaIoAJto
(415) 948·1800
Club House: 182-35-003
Golf Course: 182-35~3SVl
Open Space, Controlled DevelopmeDl
~Il, CouDlI)' Club
North and West: Arsstnldero Pn=rv.
East and Soutb: Single·F"".oily housing
(RE, Residential Estate)
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The app!icant is proposing to ranodeI and expand the existing club house, and s1igbt1y
expomd and restripe !be porl<ing 10<.
The club house expansion will add a toW of 4,812 s. f. to !be curreni structure. The major
compo!>Ollt5 of !be remodel/expansion are:
-enIl1n • nl<1l! of !be lobby area by odding • tw<>-SIOIy
eIIIrIDCe, grand sWrcase and ~l=;
-CODStrUction of DeW admini&1:rativc offkcs;
-CODSIruCtion of fully a<:ccssible .estJooms and an
eleYlltor;
-up'nsion of !be 8CCODd floor members' grill; and
-refurbiobing !be IIlCIl'S and women's IocUr rooms.
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The new addition saives to soften the appearance of {be existing building aDd give definition
to the spaces wnmn the clubhouse. The new two-story, gla~s-roofed ent.")' lobby will extend
from the front: to 1M n:ar of the building as a high.-ceiling promenade. This will CreDte a
.sense or spac.iou.mess and comfort on both the Erst emd second floors. Tbe Club's
admi'lislrative offICeS will be rebuilt on the first fllJt)[. extending 1m: buildif'!g envelope
slightly out ... ani towani the parking lot.
The second floor member.' club room will be expanded and redeo;igned with large CUl'Ved
boy windows to take ""yantage of the panoramic views of the hill. and the Bay. A new loop
driveway will be created to (acilia", valet parIdng and drop-off, Additional larodscaping will
be introdlJced i!lcluding approximately 52 trees in the froO! of the ciubbouse and the parking
lot. The trees near the c1ubbouse wiU bay. 10 .. ' canopy growlb 10 ensure open vistas from
the Club Room.
The building ""lor. and malerials will comple""'nI the club's existing facade and theme.
Eurnples will be available .. tbe Planning Commission meeting.
Pmip:t Histqry:
Belwoen 1989 and 1991. the applicam sougbl approval of a larger, differently designed
prop. nn. project, ",hid! consisted of au 8,418 square foot addition versus the cuneO!
propcsal for • 4,812 square foot expansion, was Ultimately denied by the City Council in
_ of 1991. (Sraff reports and minutes attacbed.)
The project ~ on the current project is as follows:
Sep!m>ber 23 1993:
Application for pre1imiDaIy review by the ARB of the design proposal.
Ocr*" 21 1993:
Prelimin:::y review by ARB indicated general >1IppOIt for the proj<'L Noted concerns
were neighbors' vlews, lighting, roof appear.ux;o, landscaping and C':ior/marmals,
(Mimnes attached.)
Noyember S. 1993;
Applicanl filed for cooditional use permit and site and design approval for expansion
10 club bouse and minor expansion and restriping of parking lot.
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rn the past, w,,·craI adjacent neighbors have expressed concern about Ihe possible obstruction
of their views by the proposed clubhouse exparuion, The existing dub house strucrure
occludes some of the foreground V)e\\'S of the distant rulls and the bay from three existing
residences.
To assist in dctmnining the effect of tbe proposed project on neighbors' views, a metal
frame was constructed to i.lJe dimensions of the proposed two-story e!llrilllCe promenade and
installed atop the existing slrUcwre. Photographs were taken and the site was available for
visits by staff, Planning Commission members and ARB members.
The front portion of !be existing flat roof will be raised appro. imately three feet in !be are.
of !be proposed building expansion for the member>' dub room. The proposed peaked,
clerestory roof will add another 4 feet in beight from the front of !be building 10 !be rear,
adding a total of sev,:n feet in this area of the roof only. ~rvations by staff indicate that
raising the flat roof three feet in !be front portion of !be club boose to acc<mJCloo,re !be
expansion of the members' c1ub room will have only a minimal impact on \'jews from
odj3ceD1 existing =i:leDces. It W1lS _, bowever, that <he proposed gabled,
clereslory "opine" expansion coukI fur1bcT occlude views of the distant hills and bay from an
adjacent existing ,..idence. It WllS also detenni!led that the proposed two-""'Y chimney
woold obstruct &eenic views and sbould be removed. Staff =nds that the gabled,
cleresIory roof expansion be rodesign<d so that scenic vie .... from adjacent ,.._ are 001
further blocked and !be fireplace chimney be eliminated.
:2. Traf'fii: apd Circulation
A lI'atr", SlIIdy ~ by MULTITR.-.NS Transportation Consullanls in Octol>er 1993
found that the additionalmffic generated by the expansion woold not produa any cbange in
levels of service aJ. JocaJ intersections.
The SlIIdy deIerntined that sigh! distance at !be existing access drive is severely limited. This
si~n is created due the geomeoy of JJe:tis. Drive and the la:OOscaping 00 the project sire
and the adjacent property to the south.
The SlIIdy J'OCOOlrnenderl!be following improvements .. 1lich bave l>een included in !be
applicant'. slu: plans:
ingress and egress I..",., each IS ree' wide, minimum; and
medi.on c'Jannelization of !be site driveway,
imers<cting Alexis at a 9O-degree angle.
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The new addition strives to soften the appearance of the exlsting building and give defm.itioD
10 the spaces within tbe clubhouse. The new tv.·o-s~ory, glass-roof<!d entry lobby -.a.'ill extend
!MIn tile froD! 10 tile rear of the building as • higb.<%iling promenade. Thi' will create •
sense or spacioUSDe!S and comfon on both the rrrst and sec-ond floors. The Club' s
administ::rative offices wi1l be rebuilt on the fIn. floor. extend Lng the building envelope
slightly outward toward the parking lot.
The second floor members' c~.1b room will be expanded and redesigned with large curved
bay windows to !aIre advantage of the panoramic views of tile hilJs and the Bay. A DOW loop
driveway will be created to facili~ valet pa."king and drop-off. Additional landscaping will
be introduced including approximately S2 trees in :be frOD! of tile clubhouse and the parking
lot. The ~ near the clubhouse will bave low canopy growth to ensure open vistas froID
the Club Room.
The building colors and materials wi1l complement tile ctub's existing facade and tbeme.
Examples will be available at the Platming Commission meeting.
Project Hisno:;
Between 1989 and 1991, the applicant sought approval of. larger, differently designed
project. This project. which COIISisted of aD 8,418 square foot addition versus tile current
proposal for • 4,812 square toot e'JYolDSioo, was ultimately denied by tbe City COllDCil in
March of 1991. (Staff ICpOrts and minutes atIlicbed.)
The project bistory on the current pro,;.ct is as tollows:
September 23 1993:
Application for preliminary review by tile ARB of tile design proposal.
October 21 1993'
Preliminary review by ARB indicated gCDOral support for tbe project. Noted concerns
were neighbors' views, ligluing, roof appeararx:e, landscaping and color/materials.
(Minutes a=bed.)
November 5 1993:
Applicant fIled for conditional nse penni! and site and design approval fot expansion
10 club howe and minor expansion and restriping of parIdng lot.
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Project CompariSQn Vlith C\lrrent Ordinance Regy irements:
PROPOSED AUOWED EXISTING
(Required)
Floor Area 31,280 3.5 % cf lot ""'" 26,560
( •. f.) (19i,5l!!1 •. f.}
FAR NIA N/A NIA
Maximum 25 feet 25 ket 18 r"'t
Height
Parling 167_ ~5 for existing 255 5!andanl
il§ compact building
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313lo1al 309 loIal 255 total
Usc same: as e~'l8 use Refer to OS Counny club and golf
!'egul.t1om (on.ched} counc
Pc;yMpmrpt Sfk"",: Assuming the applicam. receives City CooncD approval in February
1994, <XJDStructioD would bcgir>. ~ November 1994 and JIUIIJaI)' 1995 and be COOlj>lctcd
by August 1995.
ANAI,YSISJISSUES
The pIOpcscd project requires • conditional use permit and a .ite and dc5ign approval. After
teView and COOlIDCD!S by tbc Planning Commission, the project will be forwatdcd to the ARB
for review and commeDlS and to City Council for final action. Staff bas mcludcd items from
!lao previous review of this pwjed in 1990 and 1991. II: rcspoose 10 the dcnial of !bat
application, the rcvi5ed proposaI bas been reduced in size and addWoool lands<aping cbang ..
have been made. However, not aD items bay. bcco addressed and Staff bas iDcludl:d them m.
!his~. In addition, because tbc .... pc:=it and site and design appli<:atiODS arc being
processed CODCWTetIlly, Staff bas not bid tbc bcDcftt of • Zoning Administrator bearing to
_ public tc5timo!lj'. Stiff bas spokeD 10 the applicam and an adjaoenl neighbor who bas
r&i!ed ~ concerns about the club', operotioD. Our obscrvatioDs and
rccommeTJddltioDS are based on these conversations, as wen as the previous proposal.
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In the pasl~ several adjacern neighbors have expressed concern about the possible obstruction
of their views by t:h!' proposed clubhouse expansion. The existing club bouse structure
occ1wies sorne of the foreground Vie:lOfS of the distant hilts and lhe bay from tllI'ee existing
residenct':S _
To assist in determining the effect of the proposed project on neighbors' views. a metal
frame was constructed to the dimensions of me proposed two-no!)" entrance promenade and
installed "op I1>e existing """CUlre. PbOiographs were lakeD and the sire was .vailable for
visits by staff, Planning Commission """"be,, and ARB members,
The froO! portion of !he e.ti5tiog flat roof ,,'ill be raised approximately three feet in !be area
of !be proposed building expansion for !be members' club room. The proposed peaked.
c1eresto1)' roof will add anoIher 4 feel in beigbl from !be front of !be building to the rear,
adding a total of seven feet in this area of £he roof only. Observations by staff indicate lhzi.
raio!ill8 !be flat roof three fee' in !be from portion of the club bouse to l!CCOIJlIJIOda! !be
expansion of the members~ dub room will have only a min.i.ma1 impact on views from
adjacenr existing residences. It was de!mnined, however, thaI !he proposed gabled,
clerestory "spine" expansion couIcl furtber occlude views of !be disIant hills and biy from an
adjacem existing residence. II was also delermined that !be proposed two-story chimney
would obsu1ICI soenic views and shonId be removed. Staff I<CO!Il!Ilends that !be gabled,
cIe=Iory roof expansion be redesigned "" that scenic views from adjacent ""ideua:s are oot
further blocked and the fireplace chlmney be eliminated.
2. TlIf!jc and Cin:ulation
A traffic study prepared by MULTITRANS Traospcttatian ConsuJrams in October 1993
f<lUl!!d that the addlllonallraffic generated by the expansion would not produce any change in
levels of service at local iDlenectiODS.
The study deIermined that sight distaD::e allhe existing access drive is severely limited, Ibis
siruation is creaJed due the geomell)' of Alexis on ve and !be landscaping on the projecl sire
and !be adjacem property 10 the soulh.
The study r<e<>mmeDded !be following improvements wbicb bave been included in the
applicant', site plam:
ingress and egress lanes, each 1S feel wide, minimum; and
median channelization of the site driveway.
inrenecting Alexis at • 9<M1egree 31181e.
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In addition the study recommended several improvements \,,'tJich were rot induded by the
app!icaru txu: an:: ~carnrnended by staff and included as conditions of projccr approval (sec
Conditions s::ction). This includes a requirement to retai') the existing stop sign and
maintaining landscaping SO tb..at adequat.e sight dis~ is eruuR".d for exiting drivers.
'While the traffJe; srudy improvements incorporated by t.'fJe applicant are an implUvemem over
existing conditions, they do DOt produce an ideal solution. In order to further address this
problem. the clubhouse driveway ell!r3IlCe should be redesigned. This would likely involve
pun:hasing some land from the adjacent landowner, ,,'00 has indicated a willingIJe<s to
negotiate with the clubhouse. Staff encourages that the applicant enter into discussions with
the adjacem landowner 10 determine if sufficient land could be purcbased to reconfigure the
clubhouse driveway entrance, but has not made this .a condition of approval.
3. ~
The Il'llffic smdy determined Illal the am""'" of pa.1ting I'IOvided by the applicanr exe<eded
their calculated demaDd by 12 space'5. Based on City standards. the applicant has provided 4
spa.;:es in excess of City ~ (313 versus 3(9).
SUff review of circulation within the parking lot detennined !hal the 0"" way configuration
aloog the ea5Iern .isle of the lot should be converu:d to two-.... y circularion. This will result
in the elimination of three parking spaces. The applicant has agreed I<l this and it will be
added IS • condition of project approval <see Conditions section). Tbe toW IIIlDIber of
porting spaces provided would then be 310 spa.;:es.
4. ~
A letter was submitted by an adja<:enl oeigbbor (see Attachment 3) regarding the club',
outdoor 1ig!tting on the roof and ,.,.,. the pool area. The neigilbor complained that the Jighl.>
shine into the wimow. of!beir home and DeaIby residences.
Discussion with the applicaJl1 revealed that th= ;. • long hisrory of neighbor coocems with
clubhouse lighting. However. the lights !hal were formerly the focus of complaints are
differem than those "ferred!o ill !be Ocwber 21.1993 Jette, (see AttacbmeDI 3). According
to the oppJican1, _ particular Jiglns bave been ~ for at Jeast six years and the
IJeighbors bad not co!llplainr<l about them untiIIIOW. The applicant iTMI'cated tIW the
oeigbbor with !be cuuent complaint lives dlrectJy above the club. While the Jiglns in
question can be directal and shielded, the soun:e of the light canno! be elimiDat<d. In
particular, the ligbIs ilOWId the pool area must mnain due to insurance and ..rcty
requirements.
Staff tecommends that We applicant modify the clubboose lighting on :be roof and in the pool
area so that it does not shine inI<l the windcws of adjacem resideoces.
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~ has been much concern in tre: past about parking on Alexis Drive by persons atte!xhng
club events. Accmding to the applicant, Ute)' have maintained a journal of traffic and
parking since 1988. Also, since 1990 me club has iimit~ sp!Cial events of more than 350
people to 00 IJl(Jre than 12 in one calendar year. In addition, the dub retaim a parking
a!1enciant during speciaJ events to as.. .. ist in directing car'S [0 the appropriate parking areas.
III reviewing the club traffIC jooma\. the club "'POrted nine ins-.ances of """ parting on the
streets, fiv~ which involved less than four cars and four invo!ving less than ten cars. In late
1993. there were Ihree iD::idents "'POrted to the club wbere """ were parking along Alexis.
When the club investigatOO tbes<: iD::idems !bey fOWld that !be cars belonged to • private
pany beld by • neigbboring resident. The cars were DOl pan of • club event.
Stiff recommends <hat the club continue to J) maintain the traffIc journal; 2) limit special
evet:ts of more than 350 to no more than 12 per calendar year and retain a parking attendant
during _ evet:ts; and 3) investigate and respond I<l neighbor complaiw about parting
along Alexis.
6, Roof Equipment
SIlIff observed that the roof oquipmem on the clubhouse l< extremely unsighdy os viewed
from on-site as wen as fium adjaoem I'!sidences, II is DOled that the applicant did improve
the roof equipment in the area above the dining room wben City-approved renovations were
!lllidc to this punioo of the clubbouse, SIlIff recommends thai the remaining roof oquipmcnt
be visually improved. but DOt necessarily ~. since this may create additionaJ visual
impacn;.
7. I ;lJ!w¥7fPMe
When this project was previously reviev.'ed by the City •• need was ldentified for landlicaping
to further ",reen the clubhouse facility from adjacent residence,. The applicant has insuIIed
sucb bmdscaping and provided irrigation. The bmdscaping appears be.althy and doe. provide
some :.dditionaJ screening.
The October 1993 traffic study also =mmended lhal the Landscaping both OD-and off-site
be cleared to provide maximum sight distance to and from the site access drive. Staff
recommends lhai an bmdscaping be maintained to ensure adequate site distance for uisting
.ehlcles.
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8. On-Site Worker Housing
\\'hen this project was previously reviewed by the City. a need "'3S identified to provide 3
private outdoor area for the dub's employees who live on-site. AJlhough new asphalt was
poured in the area behind the worker housing. a private outdoor area sl'C"ifit;.111y for lhe
workers Jw, not been provided. The applicant stated that there is an area near the club pool
wbcrc employees arc allowed during off c:ub hours. Given that the dub operates from early
morning 10 late evening e"-eryday except Mooday. this area would not be suffK:iently
available to the workers.
An adjacent resident has complained in !he past that !be workers use !he roof area as • place
10 ~reale. ACC'.ording to the applicant, all in-residence employees must sign I contraCl
agreeing to a rule that if they go on lbe roof they wil11~c their on-site housing. Since this
rule 1m been in effect, !be appllcanJ stale. thaI DC employees have been on !he roof.
Staff observed that !be 'PPf"I1llIlCC of !be roof is extremely unsightly and should be
improved.
Staff m:ommends that !be appllcanJ provide. private ouldoor area for !he club employees
living on-site. 'Illls area should be k<:ared so that it cannot be viewed bjl adjacent
residences. Staff aJso rec<lT!llJIends that !he roof of !be won:",,' housing be improved to
rectify !he CIlIl'elll UIl5ight1y condition.
9. Neighhmhood Liaison
WIlen this application was previously _ed by !be City, it ..... recommended to appoint •
ncighOOrhood liaison who couJd be contacted by the ncigbbon _.ng all hours of operatio"
and during special events to voice compIaln!s about noise. Discussions with tile applicant
revealed !hat !be club manager gave her borne DII!Ilbe! 10 !be Homeowners' President and to
those home<Jwner members who requested it. Since 1989 or 1990, !he manager bas !lOt
received any telephone calls from m... mem""".
Staff roc.:>mmends that !be club contitrue to maintain open relations with !be ceigbbon and
resolve any issues to !be mutual agreemem of both parties.
10. Periodic Neighborhood Mp;tjnn
When this application WILS previously reviewed by tile City, it was recommended to include •
requirement 10 conduct a minimum of one neighborhood meeting every six months to review
!be SIlUUS of campi"""", with various terms of tile use permit. AJtllough!be = permit was
!lOt "JII'I"lved, !be appUcant did meet with a group of neighboring bomeowne .. in !lie late
1980's. 'Illls "committee" evenrually agreed '0 disband since ~ =olulions ..,.,.
found for !be compIaln!s. During 1992 and 1993, !be applicant =t with !lie designatod
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Homeowner President and some of the more vocal associ:mon members to work out various
compLaints. The applicant indicated that these periodic discussi()n5 are part of "_f}e club' 5
ongoing "good neighbor" program.
S!aff feCl)mmeods char lhe club con.tinue to maintain open relations with the neighbcn. and
resolve any issues to the mutua! .agreemeDt of both parties:.
COMPBEHENSNE PLAN COMPUANCE
The = and "Ie development regulatioN witbiD the OS OpeD Space district must be
detennined ttl be consiS""..em wit.h the Comprehensive Plan. !be objective of the
Comprehensive Plall considered most pertiDeDt to this proposal is tbe foilowing:
:. rind Use Element. Open Space ... Controlled Development; land having aU the
characLeristics of open space but upon which some developmem can be allowed.
providing that the open space amenities are retained.
FINDINGS
FINDINGS FOR CONDmONAL USE PER.\fIT
1. The proposed use at the proposed IocaIion will oot be d..'"IIimenIAI or injurious to
property or improvements io the vicinity, and will oot be dettimenI.aI III the JRlblic
beaIth, safety, general we1h.re or conveniellOC, in that the project as ooDditioned will
supply all incremenIaIly requiIed parking on-sitc, and improve the access site distance
for the main driveway, reducing the potential for accideots caused by poor driver
visibility. TarylscOf'ins will be used to soften and e~ the visual impaots of the
addition as well as provide addith,na1 ",reeDing along Alexis Drive.
2. The proposed use will be located and ""uducIcd in • ll1lIIlllOI' in a=nI wilh the Palo
Al1c Comptebemive Pilln and the PUlpOses of Tille 18 of the Palo Allo Munic;p.I
Code, in that • country club and golf coun;e is • condi1ionaIly permitted use in tile OS
zoning district. At. co_ned, the project will _ cause • significant increase in the
inIensity of use above current levcls, and will noI operate ootttrary to the first gcal of
tile Housing Element, which protects the chiiracter and qualities of existing single.
family residemial neigbborhoods. In addition, as dOCUlIle!ltc<! in the negAtive
declanttion, the project as conditioned will 1101 create significant envil-oamental
impacts. including traffIC or visual impacts.
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FINDINGS FOR SITE DESIGN AND APPROVAL
l. Till: propos«! use will be construcle<l and operated in a 1JlaJIJM:' that wiil be orllerly.
barmorUous. and compauDie with existing or potencial uses of adjoin.ing or nearby
sites when the project has been designed iO minimize im.p.acts and is subjcct 10 review
by the ARB. Redesign of lbe gabled clerestory roof and elimination of the two-story
chimney will minimize impacts on scenic views from adjacent residences.
2. The propos<d use will not affect the desirability of investment or the conduct of
business. research., Of educational activities, or other-authori7ed occupations, in the
same or adjacent areas in that the project i~ a lImited expansion of an eximng facility.
3. The proposed use will not affect the sound principles of eDvironmenral design and
ecologic;tl balance in that the project bas beeD assessed in cooformance with CEQA
Guidelines and bas been designed to be compatible with n>tive vegetation.
4. lbe propo<ed use will be in aocorll with the Palo Alto Comprehensive Plan in thaI the
defmilioc for 'Open-Spoce, Controlled Developmem" allows some development
providing !Ita! the open space amenities are retained.
Bf1XlMMENI>ATION
Based on the above ftndings, SIaff IO<XJIIlII!ends !Ita! the Planning Commission 1) forward !his
project to the ARB for design comments; and 2) ==mend !Ita! the City Council approve
the propooaI ineluding the below swed oonditiODS and the attached EnvironmemaI
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A. Prior ro SnJnpiqiQn for a BuiJdjng Permit
I. The appticanr sball mlesign the central roof "spine" 01= so !Ita! no scenic views = blocked from adjaceD! <Xisting residences. The applicant shall also eliminare the
two-Slory chimney that protrlJdn above the rooflilll:. Tbese clJanges ",('Uld be subject
to ARB review and approval.
2 The appticanr shan remove the tlu!:e parking spaces along the easIemm<J<t paIking
aisle (see AIilICbmem 12) to provide sufficient room for two-way craffic.
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3. The applicant shall provid.e s~me additional bicycle parking i.!1 a convenieru location.
The number of spaces .md location shaH be subject to re\'ie\Jt.' and appro"al of the
City's Tran."POrtalioD Dh'ision, prier to ARB review.
4-. The applicant shan revise the landscaping plan to include onJy low grmmdcover Oess
than six inches) within the sighr: line drawn on Attachment 13. l'bis sight line is 10
em.'UI'e that exiling driven can see an apprva.ching southbound vehi:k: on Alexis Drive
at least 300 feel away. Vis!bmty from this dista.tlC: will ensure adequate time for me
exiting vehicle to accelerate. cross the southbound traffic Jane and turn left into the
northbound lane.
S. The DeW club ID sign shal! be relocated to tho outside of the 'ight distance line sho,,'D
in Attachment 13 and is subject to review and .approval by the ARB.
6. The din benn within the sighf distance l~ shown ill Attachment 13 shall be lowered
by about six inr.:bes to ensure the 300 foot driver sight line is maintained.
7. The applicant shall demonstrate how the remajning unimproved roof equipment will
be tteated to improve !be visual ap~, subject to "",'iew and ARB approval.
8. The applic.ant: shall provide a private outdoor area for use by on-site employees,
subject kl ARB review and approYa!. Such LTOO shall be Iocared SO IIlat it cannot be
viewed by adjllCCnI residellces. The applicant shall aJso improve !be appearance of
!be worker hou..ing roof either by re-asphalting !be roof Ol' using some other type of
roofing IJllIIJoriaI to make it more aUractive when viewed from neighbors living aboYe
!be club.
B. Prior to JsslIang: of a Building Permit
NODe
c. Prior to Occurnmcy
1. '!'be applkam .hal! retain !be STOP sign on !be egress lane of the site access clrive.
2. The applicam sbaIl provide adequate eXlerior lighting to ensure pe<Ie.'!rian safety aDd
building security . .AJI = sboul:l be lighleC with a minimum 60 watts of _
photocell lighting. Ught fIXtures sbouId be pia=! high enough to be vandal resistant
and sbouId be protected by a wire or plastic ""yer. Other activity areas such as
walkways Rod the parking 101 sbouId be lighted wilh • minimum of 112 footcandle.
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3 The applicant shall modify the ex.isling exterior lighting on the clubhouse roof and
ncar the pool area so that it does not shine: in the windows of adjacent neighbors'
homes. subject to review and approval by the ARB.
4. The applicant shall install a fully automatic fire sprinkler system and ftre
cxtiDguisher. throughout the clubhOUlie bwlding.
5, The appli<:anl shall provide emergency lighting and signage. per Fire Departmeru
regulations, throughout the clubhouse structure.
D. Ongoing
I. The applicant shall maintain the bedges to the right of an e.titing driver 10 the height
i<h:lltificd in Anaclm!ent 14. This is 10 ecsure thaI the 300 foot driver sighlline is
maintaiI>ed, subject to on-going review by the City's Code Enfo=ment Officer.
2. The applican! shall continue to maintain the traffic journal, investigate and =PO"" to
aD neighbor complaints regarding parting or other matters and limit special .'icnts 10
no """" than 12 in ODe c:sIendar year. The applicant .baD submit the projOC1ed
specUil event caIeudar for each upcoming year to the Zooing Administrator, and shall
cootinue 10 keep records of !he numher of pen<l'" attending in order to monito£
ccmpiianI:e with this condition. The traffic joornaI and a record of any lIOighbor
comp1aints shaD he made available for review by the Zooing Admlni.<trator on an as
n:questecI basis.
AttasJunrnt::: ErA
Location Map
Leuen; from the Publk
OS regulations
PIllIllling Commission Staff ~ Febnury 22, 1991
Minures of the FebfIliI)' 27, 1991 PIllIllling Commission meeting
Mimnes of the Arebiwctural Review BoaId from Ialy 2() and
December 21, 1989 and Octol>er 21, 1993
City CouDcO Staff Report, Marcb 14, 1991
Deleted parting spaces
Sight distaIu line
Required hedge heights
Traffic Study. ~ by Maltitrans, Octoher 1993
(for Planning COI!lDlissk>n only)
PlODS (for Planning Commissioo only)
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SITE LOCATION
3000 ALEXIS DRIVE
P'AJ..O AlTO HtLLS GOlF
& COUNTRY CLue
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[Recreational Use) ,"d Site and Design ~R:-.-v:-ie-.------I ;;ORTH
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Clty ot Palo Alto Plannin. Dept.
Architectural Review Board
250 Ha.ilton Ave~
Palo A.lto. CA 9~304
Ref your File No.: 93-ARB-190
p;OA. Rills Golf' Country Club P-enn(lvation
Architeotural Review B08rd:
3120 A.lex!_ Dr,.
P~lo Alto, CA 94304
10/21/93
RECEIVED
ccr 21 1383
This letter i. provided to notify you of 8 potential probleA
witb respect to the country club's proposed new outdoor li.btin •
• round tbeir pool area, and to preserve our rishta to challense an7
p~e~e~t or r~turc prcbl~mDtic lighting in court.
WIi!, Marie and Al Burns, own the residence on the hill
i_oediately above and beyond the clUb' 8 tennis court. and pool
.rea~ Th~ club bad installed two types of probleaatic outdoor
li.hti~ wbicb i_pacted ne&atively on our ho.e. Firat. tbere are
8potllght8 ~rected on the edge of the club's roof which shine into
tbe windows of our bo.e. Tbese are innapropriate in a residental
nei.hborhood and had ou.cht to be reaoved. Second, there are
aultiple. le.rge ba.nlta of un.haded floure8cent liarhta near the
club'. pool area~ Theae flou.re8centa are eevere17 briaht and
glarln8. and are angled upward. witbout hood or shade. Tbe7 flood
the nearby residence. with harshly, unacceptab17, bri.bt li.ht.
The club .hould bood these flourescenl. .. , or select a ditf~rent
style of outdoor li .. bta, 80 that they can aeet their inaurance
require.ante ~ithout iapo.in. a severe lighting nui •• nce on
nei.hboring residence •• There ahould be no negative iapact Dn the
club'. ability to have Bocial f'unctiona because the,. aelect an
al temate 8t7l~. of: outdoor lilhtin. that i8 _ore considerate of
their nei«hbora.
Bnclosed for' ",our recorda i. a cOP7 of our prior
correspondenoe to th~ club re.ardi~1 these lights. Aa of tbla dete,
the apotlilhta are atill up en tbe roof and the rl~ure8cent lianta
a~e atill not hooded. The club's aanager. Lynn Hel.ob, s.id the7
would leave these liahta off. in .eneral, ~ntil the club wanted to
uee the. for ~peciric eveat •. That i8. that the7 would continue to
U8S these lights 8n7 ti.e that they wanted to.
Fro. the neighbor.' point of vi~vJ tbis i. not an aco~pt&ble
solution. TheBe particular lilhta mentioned are intolerab17 briaht
and ahould not be used at an,. ti_e. As of on17 a week aao, Burne
had to call the club yet another ti.e to request that the club turn
off one of the roof apotli«hta that had been on all niaht. ever7
ni.bt for tbe preoedin. week.
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It 1. requested that the club be dir-ected to uae outdoor
li~htina that i. core appropriate to their existina re&idential use
per.it •• Tbat 1., tbat they re." ... e t.he roof IIpotligbta above their
pool &1""'., and either hood or change-out the flollreacent liahtlil
a~ound tAeir paol area.
Sincerely youra.
Harie A. Burna
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Palo Alto H}lls CQ1! and Countr~' Ct'Jl)
30110 Alexis Dr.
Palo Alto, CA 94304
Att,1'I: 1.ynn Neh;.on, M'~r.
3120 Ale,js D~ive
Pa]~l Alt~, CA 9~304
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Thl!i lettpr ill pUT!;l;Unn1, 1,1} UIJI' phonl' '·(Hl-.·t·I· ... utl.·olJn rplotin. lo
.~·out"" ]etl~!" of Dec. '9, 1992. Fir.."t uf 1-1.11. Pllwk j'ou fer yovr
prtllrlisp. to "hood" your foul'" bl-tr1h"io (~r rl\l'n·(·~;~~·nl jight~, so their
\:'xcessive briRhtnes$; 101111 n.}t bL' ;l I't'nblf'M for n.~ighborjng
rpsidences. To cls!'"if,;;, ""II:! :H.,j{r'~~ thAI ·,ni) 111<:',," fULl!" lights are
proh!clII:aU c at t.t-u~ pre-srot 1 Imp,
It is not necessa.ry that you hav(' your insurance carrier
contact us regardi na: your j i,(ht ir.a: requi relAents for insurance
purposes. w~ do understand and sympathize with the need to lIe-et
guch requirements. However, it is reasonable to request that lhe
style of li.hte you choose sbould be reasonable and tolerable when
Lhey are on. \l'hen the large rluoregcpnts are t.urned on~ the,-create
so much brigbtness it is as Lhough a 18rc~ indoor sports arena has
been placed in front of our ho.e. so brilliantly illu.inated that
the races of individual players enn be id~ntiripd rrom a half blo~k
I1l1ay. Your .cuests &pPBrenL17 only percei: \Ie t.hp.R~ I igh ta froll the
Mide, wherPB9 ~e look dir~c~ly into Lh~~. Your ~IJe9t~ leave aeter
A r~w hOUI"S, lIherea. we cnnnot leave (Jur hl).f" r\'lF'ry till!' th~ club
lighta up tb~ out-doore. Wbile no-or"p. i~ a~kinJil that you remove your
IJKhting. the club can And should meet it-a require'lllf:'nt~ by chaGlilins
fl t7pe of lightin, that creat.f')O'j; tin such n1Ji!qanC"'~ at any tiMe t.o the
np.ighborlnR residences.
You glated that th~ club IoIl'u!d be ]P8ving lhese lights on
srt~r 1:00 a,m •• p~ob&blj no more th~n ci_hl lo ten limeS pc~ year.
Tbi~ is yaur current ~9ti.ate, of cour~p; Tn flllure. the club may
want to 1 ight the CHJtao-.)rs m,)re-fn:'qur';'ut I;..'. f':'" w'1li 1 lllter tilnee.
tIn (net, during the rirst two wpell~ wh£,11 I,h(" I iJ(ht!'3: were uaed IBFlt
sumller. t"ey were on all nighl IUld 'il11 da,. for "four dllYSt
in~er~it.tently. simply becaUlile they hod been rorgotton about).
I You also atated t.hat I could calj you at the club or at home
and you 'Would t.ake act-ion pr01nptly -p.xcept, presufIIosbly, on those
probably eight or ten tir:es per yoe8.r when you do intend to use
these lis:hts a.rt.er 1:00 a.ttl. Since ,."our function:'l do soaetiales
continue until 2:00 a.m. or 2:30 a ••. , are fOU sug.esling tbat ir
{he lights are II. disturbance unti] that tiIlU"!. Ilnd if we 'Wait a halt
hour or 80 to see whet~er the ~mploy~eR do re.c~ber to lu~n theM
Qfr. thal wp could then cnl! you to Rf!p.h rf"lir-f 'from the bri.htnes.
at 2~30 a.DI. or 3:00 a.III.? 'Wilen you l(')o'k nt the practical reality
of such a proposal, it c](,8rly is nol any forln of workable
co.proMise.
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You BUJUrest t.hat 'We cOlllprcllli",,, in ord"T to n("lt ~jeopB['dizt' ttle
club'. responsibility or-your 8bilill to enjoY your home
wllhoul 1.he int~rrerenc~ of CILl!l djHI'·Rt·~inn~.-rhi~ is somewhat
"'i~lr:llding in t .... o respf!cls. The 1 illl:l1l !'I flr ... "10 hri.:hl that they are
mo~e ('orrectly characterized us a nuisancif', rlot A. IPere petty
di.traction* Also, it is in~orrect t,o 9U(.~~1 that Bo.ehow your
neighbors should share your re5pon~ibiJily Cor ~eelin. your
insurance requirements. or otherwise toleratJ!' nu;allnce dilllui8Cd by
1.he buzz-word 'compro2ise r , lIoodin~ th"! li",hl,!; or scl~clif'll It. '!:lore
nor~al type of outdoor lighting should not ·jeopflrdi~e~ anything.
ThereforE, we want to emphasize j)n~e ~KI~in that it is not
r~levant bow ~ften or ho~ 10n~ th~ liMht~ ~ill L~ on. Th~ only
i_portaflt considenllion is "hr-l.hpr thf" 1 i.h!ht!;. .nl' lul(Orable at all
wher. they are on.
Your-neighbors first notified YO'J th"" the li~htlil 'Were
problematic in Sept. of 1992. We hope the inlervenin •• eveD .ontn.
bet~een then, and when you will need to turn lhe. on in April of
1993. is a Bufficiently long ti_e r"r your pUl'ch •• e and
inslallation of hood. or a different type of lights. Thank you 'Very
.uch for 70ur cooperation~
Sincer@ly yours.
Merip A. Burns
cc~ Mr. joe Colona, City of Palo Alto PlanninR Dept.
Mr~ Rich Cabrera, City of Palo Alto Inspection Svc ••
Palo Alto
HillS
Mrs. Morie Bul'l1!
3110 AI";. on ..
PII. Alt., C A 94304
Dear Mrs. BUl'Il!,
My apologies ror the delay io not ,esp.""';"8'O you sooner, b<rt my secretll)'
unf'onunlltely has taken ill with Spinal MeningiI;" and tho mpot1>e I had written, his not
yet been typed or mailed to you.
I am sure you have noticed that lhe r.ghtins you complained about h.15 been taken taTe or
in I mllUlCr t. a«ommocIlle you os best _ poa'-lIIy CIIn The 5ghts have been taken oil'
or I timer system, and put on • rnanu.al ,wilell w thai they an be turned on And oil' os
needed. The light aI \be end orthe pool c_ to you. has been tbore ror .,1easI1iv< Of
!JIOr'e years, and Un/'ortunalely, n<ed. 10 "ay ror safety......,.,. This f,ght is mcn oran
'nc:otIYen"""", to the guests sealed in the dinins mom lhaft '0 00" neighbon as it partially
inuminales the w.n. way from the parking 10110 lhe south sid. or.he main cr.";"g room,
and shines dim:tly in lheir eros
1 have $pO'ken at ~gth 10 our ir,i'urance urrler about lhe aherations in 01.11' lighting of'the
pool a_ and wi.hout question Ill< rules and regulations or bolh lhe ADA (Am<oi<;an
Disabilities Act) and UNRUH require proper fighting fOf ,he visuany impaired !o meet
handicap And code requireme.us. W. have hancfrcap parlcing and gene<11 parIcing idJO=l'
to the pool a,ea, which mandate. _ ad<l ..... lhese i_ ... U"rOf1unately, \be club does
not have a cboice, ancI mnoving this f.ghting clearly incr ..... lhe hazard.o rnemIterS;
• guesls, ancI employees orlhe club
Mrs B~'fOs. the club win ""k. every rlTon 10 try and be • good neighbor I. Y"" and olI . 01"" residen •• in palO Alto Hins We ",C( .. m.!Iy ,esponeled I. yoor request -.I
years ago 10 'emove I fight on our ...rtha! you foond 10 be I problem. W. ha"" altered
the roghting sysIem ..... , \be pool w tha' it can be turned on .nd orr AS needed Irthe club
p1'O\'ides valet parkins for • fhnC'ltcm m event.. we will not need to rtghl the.ra rn an
lCtualily. ! ,colly do no! llUicipate Ihi' area bejnS lit wil h exl,. lights put \be hour or
PALO ALTO J.1JLLS GOLF (; COON TRY CLUG • ,oco AI .... 0. .... , P./o A.o. C ... >O:' ',ro" ) •••. ,ioo
10:00 p.m. most o(the time, and probably. no more Lhan eigh: to ten times. per year later
than 1,00 I.rn.. Shou!d you find the ligbts on latef than this hour, please call me !II the
club (94S·1S00) Of at home {408-'49-8J71} and J wil,1 take are of it as qui(;Uy 1S
pOlsibl •.
J ht'IC asked thai our Insurance Broker also write .. letter 10 you conccnting the 5p«ilic
code and safety issues the club is Addressing so thac. you may better understand tie
position the dub is In. 1 have also me! and spoken wiln Mr. Joe EhrU:::h Soe\Ierai times who
is. past neighbor orours~ and a very highty respected architect. S"-fe ~rncnded we
"hood· the fights to reduce the glare ;owards your property wruc : 'i believe
the lights have not been on since late Septembc-r and I tUIl the i!sue --IJ not ~
Serious IS it was wher. you called 10 tomplain this S'J mmcr •
)fthese alterations do oot meet with y\ltlT appro"at. perhaps we can discuss it further and
find some sort or compromise that will not jeo~nJiu the cJ'Jb's responsibililY 10 provide a
safe envi.ronmeru or your ability to efljoy you\" ~f!'k;: wfthout the intenc:rencc or club
distractions.
Best Woshes rOrlbe Holidays and New Yea ..
cc: loe EMich
Finney IUld Brown Imutanee
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P&lo Altc Hills CoIf and Country CluL
3000 Alexis Dr.
Palo "'it.o j CA 94304
Attn: Lyr. Nelson
Ms. Neh'JOn:
3120 Alelo..ls Ur-.
i'alo A1LU, CA 94304
Y/l7/~2
This is in regard to tbe :four large, extt'emE'Jy brillht, ntl)ked
floureacent li&hts you have r@cently instalJ~d outside the club to
illulllinate the concrete area around your :::;l .. 'i21rujlloiC pool. AI:! I alaLed
to. y~u in our recent phone conversation. after you ir~5Lalled t~e
first of' these lights. lights of tba.l size and Lrightr;esg .s.re
co.pletelr unaoceptable in a residential neighborhood.
While they are al.ost briaht enough to liebt up an airport
runwa7t they are instead li,htin£-up the interior o~. o~r ho.e. T~e7
ere so bf'iaht, the), abiDe throl.leb drapes. In the windolol's without
drap ••• tbe .lare i8 so bad that it hurls the eyes after a ahort
tiae. Additionally, Lbeir presence and ~.e may reduce the value and
aarketability of olJr boae. Par-t of the .... "lue or a ho.e in thi.
nei.bborbood derivcb from the lovell' liay views .ell ni,ht. Your
propo •• G (laure.cent. are BO bri.ht. th~y knock out ~be abilit7 to
8.e any thin. else. and deBt~oy the view.
A. I .lao 8u •• ested. to you in our phonecall. it loIould 8eell
that you could eliminate Bo.e of the prob!e •• by install in. li.hte
with ~onical shades ~bich would facU5 the li~ht wbere you want it -
on yOu.r concrete and make t.he .tare not vial ble froa our
properLY. Or. in this day of t~8tefuJ tr~ct liehtina, it would seem
that TaU could instal! so.e other for~ of ligbling which would not
have ••• ucb Visible brightness lind &JI:U-i!. You r~rrtli.ned frail!.
diacu881n. thi5 wilh me. but .erely ML~t~d lh~t you ~el'e Moina ~o
in8te.ll aore lights. It would tH!'(HIl l.hal these ne'W bright lights
should ha .... e been presented to tbe orchi tectura.! revle .... board of the
City of Palo Alto befo~e installa~ion.
You stated to De th4~ fOU needed lights b~cau&e of insurance
p~obl~.s. I said I sympathized ~lth your proble~s. bUL that did Dot
give you the right to be effectively shinin~ 9potlighls into our
",indo"' •. You then stated to our neighbor. who 8190 co.plained about
the licbts. that the), were only ,oing to be used t.hree or four
ii.e. per )'~Ilr, for special occasion». Your lo,ic is like Eilayin.
that it's. o.k~ ror you to step on SClmeone'. fool, arid 1i1ll8.8h iL,
b~cauae you're only Eoina to 6m~sb it ~hr~e or (our ti~e~ per year.
It.. iii not o.k. t.o use theJie U&ht-t'. 'fbey u.re uO[1ccept.able at. an)'
ti_e and &bould be re.oved. .
PIe.se
y.r,ur intent.
appreCiated
provide U:Ii Ii definitive,
with respect to these or
if you could provide such
wei tter. response re.arding
other liaht'&;4 It ,"ould be
r~sponse on or before Sat4t
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Oct. 3rd. which 11:1 ap'p[,v);lIl1at(~l)' llol() "'ceklb frum YOUt· receipt o(
thi. letter. If w~ do not rec~iv~ your r'~wpgn~e uithirl this time,
or if your re5ponS3 is unsatisfactory, ~e will be forced to rile a
fcraal cOllplaint kith the city of' Paio Alto.
Sincerely,
Al end Marl e Bu["ns •
cc: Mr. J09 Colona, City of Palo Alto P18nnin~ Dept.
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Planninq Co.aission
City of Palo Alto
250 Raallton Avenue
Palo Alto, CA
VIA CER'l'IFD!D lIAIL
3077 Country Club ct.
Palo Alto, CA 94304
January 14, 1994
Re' 'l'be Palo Alto Bills Golf and ccuntry Club
3000 Alexis Drive
Ladies ami Gentltmen of the eo.rls.sion I
RECEIVED
JAN 1919S4
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We bereby request that the hearinq on the above captioned i tea be
postponed until such ti_ a" a true and cerrect fraainq _el CIIJl
be erected on the proiect, vbich vi.!.! truly and correctly allow
you to vi_Uoe the I_ct tIult this project will bava on its
adjacent nelqhbors.
~ f....., tIult has been erected has been located at the rear of
the pzupiA8d addition, and it unt3;irly represents wbat the visWil
l~ .. 111 be.
In conversations 011 January 13th vi th lIB Linda 1,_. one of the
ardUtecte for _ project. she bas aqr_ to have erectecl at the
leadinq edge of the curr<ont I>uil4inq SOa& fra.e vork and Dr
balloons to show _t the new heiqht of the Iluildinq .. ill be.
tlnfortunately. there is DO -I for _ to show the c:o..isslon
and neigbbors I hmr this addit on wil.l appear # 1dlen it is -.oved
closer to the sbeet by anyvIlere frca 8 to 2( {Bet.
InasIIIJch as ...,.., --= of the eo-issi"" and other City
officials have already visited the project and have """" the
aisleadinq fraai..Dg that is nov on the building, we are concerned
that II false i~ressi"'" has been _de and .. ~r jlllllgewmt vill
be .ade based upon saae.. As soon as the cbanqes have been .. de,
tl>aD .. re-1.Dspection can be IIIlde and a ..... hearinq 8CIleduled.
PI ..... place us on any .ailinq list ccmcerninq the aforeooentioned
property.
'ftwIk you.
Si..Dcerely,
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ZONlNO 11,71.020,
CHAPTEJi. lB.71
OS OPEN SPACE DlSTlUCT
REGULATIONS
18.71.010 Spedrl< purposes.
The pwpose and _ of Ibis dimict is:
(a) To proteet iii< I"'blic health. .<atety. and
woIfm:;
(1)) 1'0 prot= and preselVC open space land
IS a _.md -.l'eSOII11::e;
{C.) To pumil Ib: I'!'ISOft'bile ase of open
space land, ~ .. tIle ..... dme preserving and
~ illI inhmllI open space ~rlstics
1<> ....... its continued lVa!Iabilily for !he
ton.willg: .. ~ Imd, acenic Imd.
-.,., land, CODIC:V>Iion or _ """""'"
l.md; for the eomaiGm .... of _ "Iftw\ and the
-Mi of urban cIeveIcpIDaIa; IIIId for the _oa efland in its nann! or __ &We
II> prt>teCIlife and P"'P""l' in !be , ...... ill'lit)' _
tile haz3rds of fire, flooc! • .md oeismio lICdvily;
III<!
(d) To __ wilhandeanyCllllfedmll.
=. regioaal, """"Y. and city ope!IlpICe planf.
{Oni. 3048 (pm). 1978)
11.71.010 Dennitlo.s.
As 1ISed In Ihis c~. l1li1_ o<herwise
appatent from !he context. !he following
cIefitlitioos sIWIlpply:
«j' ·Coasetv":on of _ """"'" Unc!"
mum 1an4 Wbicll poSSCSICS or _p .....
ct'IIlSClVatioD or nazural ~
(b) -Comervation or natural mourcc,
tncIudes. but ia IlOl necessarily limite4 to.
5trUDL5. wltersbcdJ. JTDUDdwater recharge.
&Oils. wildlife habitat. IS _ in Ibis section.
spe<W land fumIs, and _ ''q'I''Vim
(e) "Opon _land' ....... lIlY pa=l or
area of WId aICDti..Uy unimproved. or in its
EWll!'iI swt, IDd dcvOlc:d ro WI open spICe USC IS
_ in this 00C2i00. and _Is desipled in
the op<n ipO<% elemeIlI for .. ""'" 'I""" ....
18119
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Ii.7!.030 PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE
(<!) "Open spa<:< clistria" IIIUIIS any "". of
land or w;ter designated ·OS" and subject [0 .aD
or the lImnS and ~g\iladOllS of tb:i! cbapCer.
(el "Open Space Use" ,,"::1IlS rile "'" of land
to,
(I) Public rc=aIion;
('2) l'njoymem of s=ic be>I!ty.
(3) Conserviltion OT use of natural
~
(4) PrOOuction of food or fiber.
(5) Prt.uctioD of pe!SODS II!ld lIIoir Il1ifac!s
(buildings. property. etc.):
(~ CgnQjnmtn! mI stn:C\\n'iIlg of_
~
(J) "lteaeaIiao 1m!" =-any.,.. oeland
or waII:r """"'PUlIIe .. ~ .....
(s) " __ ........ any ma of Iaod Dr
.... ter wbid1 p ,.,.,,;,; quaIilies wonlly of
p.csu.atim.
(I>,) "WiId!Ifo _ ........ any I!a oflaod
or __ ... """-110 1I>e prosctVlIIion
-orenh' !~ ofwildlifr: I'tSII:JIQICeS.
(On!. 3048 (poll). 1978)
U" 71.030 Jlqulali ..... ntabllsbecl.
The opcciIio n:p\Idons Ie! _ iD!IU a.p.r
IIld !be reJlllati_ set _ In Cboptor lUI
sbaII apply iD all OS distri<II!; powided, lhII mere
restriCliv< reJlllatioas mil be ",""m_ by
<be ar.bi_ ~,.. board mI ~ by
the 61"""", of pllDDlu, IDd =unity
tlIViroom.<m, parsuaD! II> C>opocr-le.4S. (Ord.
~ fIB. 1m: On!. 3048 (patI).l978)
U.71.040 Sil. ODd d .. l.,. .pprnaJ
requlrecl.
All UICIS pmmlue4 wldUD Chi. district,
incIu~ing !bole !or wbicb I ..... permit Is
roquirod. shall be subject 10 _.II for cy
dc:ycIopmtru. 00DSC'IICtiaa.. or implOY'GDcztts as
provide<! ill ~ IU2. (On!. 3041 (pan).
1978)
18.71.050 URI puaUUed.
_ ..... indudo:!be i>lIowiDg:
(al Agr\aIlJIml ""'"
(I) Animal hWband.'Y.
(2) Crops.
(3) Dairying.
(4) Hortic::uIru:re, ind\JdinS nuncri~.
(S) Livestoel: fann!n&.
(6) Tree E.umini.
[TJ Viticulture and similar USeS Dot
inconsisrenr. wirh the intent and purpose of 'i..~S
CbipCU. boa enJudi", bog fanning;
(b) Botanical ~ amries, O".lldoor narun:: WxJ-. mI similM facilities:
(e) N_~AIlCIXlaries:
(eI) Singlt-fI:nily dweIIinp;
(e) /ooa:I:!ts:Jry faciliIies anol aa:esoory 1lSes;
(f) Reridmrja' are homes:
W Mobile _ (mom.,.",_ -V 00
permaDeIl! _ See Seaioo 11.88.1-40.
(b) Small day care_ ...
(On!. 3683 "e. 7. 19U: On!. 3536 12.5. 1984:
On!. 3340 13. 1982: On!. 3291 flO. 1911: On!.
3130 il7 (pan). 1979; On!. 3041 (pan). 1978)
11.71.060 V ... requlrlD, ... penni".
A use pezmit sIJalI be !!m obIaioed for the
fuDowiDr ....... provi<1e6 In CIloj>ta 18.90
.. _ IX OppUOIDI COIl embIWl Ideq1u.Ie
jusdfiCltiOll lila the propos<d .se will be
.....-and compatible willi Ibe imem and
_ DC IhU ~. and lila 1hc DWllber of
employees mI n:sideIII popuIaIioo approximates
dial _ ....wc!...w, _ I priIIcip&l pe!!I1iUed
-=
(al Al>im.ll ~ incIudiD, boUllin& IUd
Io:mdI;
(b) Cometeri... DDt incIlIIIinJ _I ...
CI'CIZlOIUria. ur .. bm1boria. All DWI<ers of ......
IIIIaI1 be __ pdo _ mI be deeme4 '"
be impeMous .... _Ibis cbopIer.
(0) Com .... _ mI UIili!y foQliIies;
(eI) E4uClliaaal. _table . .....-. mI
~i . 'ms;
(0) o.-!IIIICbes;
(f) Jtecrutional ..... iIlcr.dina rid;'.,
academies. dubs. SIIbles. tmm!y clubs. _ golf
""""'" W Uri< day c= boIDes;
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ZONING I!.71.1IO
(1\) A S<CO!ld _ single.family dwelling
unit. provided thu. in addition to the si te
developmen: regulations :specified for tl".e R-lor
R-2 Special Rtsidmtja1 Buflding Site Combining
District. aD of1he following coodilicos "'" me"
(1) The minimum site area must be forty
!housand four hundred siny-nine square metm
(t<no=s).
(2) n,., second dwdling unit must 1>e
sepamed from 1he original d...rung _ and from
any other ac.cusory building by a mUlimwn
dimnce of 3.7 10"'" (tweIv .. !'eeI).
(3) The _ dwelJini unit must be
limited in size to Dine !mndred squan: feet of
living area pIUS <we _ square feet of
COVl:t<d partlnf ...... and sha!l be llml:ed L'
beigllt 10 OIl< ""'Y mI • _om beighl of
5. UI7iD,rers (..-fed) ... mo:as=d II>
rho biJbest palm oftbe ~
(4) The _ dweIJing s!IaIl bave sate!
ICO!SS from a clrivcway in GlCDIDQD with Ihe main
residence in on!er 10 proven! new curb """.
excessive paving met diDrinnjon of street trees.
(5) The second d .... II!.. !ball be
11' ],j'o ","I1y campm"'bie wid:J lbe main ~
wilh "'$p<Ol \0 style. roof pitch, color and
IO;u.erWs; and 1he additiCllll pamng s!IaIl be =-10 olf·sire vi ..... by.....,. ofvege!llion
or fecdng,
(6) The _ dwolllnf oball be .designed
so IS to pe:mit: I minimum of two lnirl.1red squa."
f"" of usable open opoce for eadI dwoIllnf aniI;
provided. Ilowcver. ruch open ~ DlIY be
combiDtd Clr separa.te. 10 100& Ii .. minimum. of
two !mndred sqc ... feet is _, _Dle
from eadI aniI; IDe! jIIO\'\ded. f\mbet. for !!le
_ ofllDs oeaiOII, _ open spa'" Wll
not iDc!ude..,. ~ IiooI or ...... iide yan1.
(1) Aa:euofy dwoIlinp _guest """"j!eS
cxisIini OIl ApriI 2l. 1986. IDe! wbiell ptiol "'
!baI dale WClO IowfW, mnfonning pennitted "...
may remaiD oslepI ~i ..... Such
.... sball be penniaed iD remade!. improve 0<
~place site impmyem.ems OD the same sile.
withoul necusit, to c:omply with site
development rqubl:iom fur CCTltin,.,! use .and
occupancy by the SaDlC use; provided lhat any
fU(;n remodeling. improvement Dr replacement
s:t'l..all not add a kitchm. ncr ttsu.lt in incn:ased
floor L"'t.I, number of dweUi.ig units. heig.'U.
le.'1.gth ar Ill)" ether :inc:rea5e in the: .siz.e of the
impro ... emtru withou.t complying with the
S!3ndanIs Jet !onh in Section IS.71.()60 (b) and
applying for and receiving a condition.a.l U$(
penni, pumlaIIt III 0IaPfl" 1 S.9C.
(On!. 4016137.1991: Ord. 3MI f3. 1989: Ord.
3683 lB. 1986: Ord. ,S3li 126. 1984: On!. 3C48
(:>on). 1978)
11.71~07D Lol ara.
Minimum lot .... sIlall be forty !boosond four
ban.<!~ sixty.nine _ meters (ton Icres).
(Ord. ~ (pin). 1978)
11.71.080 Mulmum bWIdl", ..... no: ..
The _\lID impervious ..... and building
""""'"" sIlall be 3.5 petttm; provide<! lila: wbere
I ponian or alllbdivisioo widt dust<n:d lo!s of
Jw tb.ac 1etI IlCI!!I in .size contains an area
teIId .... ~ _ •• Iopable by an open 'Pa""
JaIIictiOG. die ImpeMous a>veraJ< wbic:h .. wid
__ be &llo!!.e.d '" Ibis UlldeveIopobl< ....
ohaIl be ItIDSfcrred \0 mole loIS _ !he
subdivisioo OD wbiell develcpment will b<
penniaed in I proponiooal1ll.lmler based on lot .
size. (Ord. 3345 tIl. 1912: oro. 3048 (pan).
197&)
18.71.090 Frval yard.
Front ~!bIll be • minimum of 9.1 _
(IbiJty feet). (On!. 304$ (put). 1m)
18.71.100 Side }Irds..
Side yards s!IaIl be • minim .... or 9.1 merel'S
(1I>irty r ... ~ (Ord. 3048 (put). 1m)
11.71.110 Roar fUel!.
Rear yam" sball be • _= of 9. I merers
(Ibirty feet). (On!. 3048 (put). 1975)
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18.71.115 Spedal .etback ••
Wl>= .ppliable. _!iDes imposed by •
ipeCW'-map pursumt to 0lapIer 20.01 of
this code IIWI be fuJlowe<l [0. Ibc pwpose of
d.=lninJ legal setback requ;n:m...... (Oni
4016 f4;. 1991~
18.' 1.120 Automobile.
Four car >paces sholl be ~ ror cacII
dwelling unit, one !l! whicb .ball be covered
pamna. Such spooes s1laIl net be _ In my
l'OQuired from or dde yanI. (On!, 3048 (part).
1978)
11.71.130 lIul1.n". balaht tilDlL
BuildiDp sbalIlIOI ex<:eed ...., -... or 7.6
m.!CII (.'ftIlIy./lv. hoot). (Oni 3048 (put).
I97Il)
11.71.140 Spedal rqulallaDL
(I) Geol"linl1lOils _pDcn ODd repo:t.
All "I'!"i .......... 1iJr IiI>e ODd cIoAan ~ sbalI
:le • 1 nid by. combined in-depdl ~
""" IIOils Inveotiplion aDd report prepomI by •
.. 1istere<I IJOOIoaist cenifieel by die IIIIe or
Cali!omia IS ID ..,mealna aeoIosist. IIld by •
lil:emocI civiI.,.moerCjll&lifiod In lOiI_a
Suob report lh.Ill be bue<! on nrfocc.
SilbSlUfaoe. ODd lohc:oIoty iIwestipDocIs IIld
, ..... in,*"" mI sball falIy mI dearly prtS<d:
(1) AIl pertIneIlI daIa, _ .. _-. mI
0VlIhwiaas;
(2) Tb. sigruficaace or ebe dlta.
iIcI .. ctlIIiQm, md _ willi ft8pect ID Il1o
actual d.evclopmCDl Dr jmpJernemarioa of tbe
inIendcd land uses, aDd wilhlapoa ID Ibo: d!ea
upon funmo poIosic&l "'" I _ 00 md off
!be silo;
(3) R=m~ Cor my ldditio:W
ilIvestigatims __ bell1ldo. AIlCDS1S IOd
apemos incurrtd ... r=II of Ibo: requlJem!:ms
orlilis IOCIioD, inc!udlng Ibo: CDSIS aDd _ of
an i.udtpc:ndeaI: lC:\'iew af the m.u:erial "'bm'tttrl
under IIIis cIIap<u by quoliIied JIOt5OIIS _
by !be dIy. shall be bome bylbo: 0A>Ii=t.
'I'l-J!i requirement may be Wilved by the city
eql."lCCf for ~ in o roup M occupancy. as
ck!ined Ul 0I>e Ullifoon Buil<ling Code. aazssory
facilitiu and land.sc.apins wbere luch
improvements. in his opinion, would pose no
~ _ to 1u. or JlfT'POftY on !be subjec'
or JUml\I!IdiOi propeni ...
(b) Landscapin,. Tht: existing narural
..rewi<m IIld 1m! _ .... shall rcmlill ill •
natural ...,. _ modification ls round to be
DeUSSuy for I ~cific use a.Il01l0'ed in this
cbapter lhroui!> tile IiI>e aDd deDi" approval
proc.c.dure . .Reduction or eJiminatioo of f~
huards will be required wbere beavy
concemratiDDJ of "amtn"* ve,ifWiotl occur.
I mI ... pilla .. may be "..,...." aDd ,.quiml
£IIalI be oonsm.m wilh !be ~ of Ibis
dIapcer.
(0) Fto<:Inf _ No _ We. or
-fOlldnJ lIIviDa • CIIIIiDi odp ... ay be tlsWle<I_
Ci} To pmta::ta veguazlfC community or
wildIiro ba!li!aIumiI it is iu!Iy _N ........ suIlject
ID rhc im~jrialorl"'CPD!lNe tin: Wda Ihr.Ju.gf1
au.. md desi." _.....-", ~ 1U2;
mI
(2) To _1IIill!y _os, .,"m",
bar IlOl limited 10. .,_ or _ JHIIIIps,
"" ...... J.mIts, mI...us.
(d) Tree r=oval R<movaI or live trees sbaII
be pcmi!!ed .. pr.>Yidod in Tide I.
Cc) Accou '" """"'" ...... ROIds, _.
drinwlys, aaiIs, 0< nmways for iIWDmObiles.
1NCks, buses, or IIIOIIlI!:)cIOs or DOber _eel
..-_ DOl be ..... doped e:<cepI upon !be
seeming or silt ODd desiJII app<oVIl. No sucb
appmvaI sbaII be IJIl'IIi'd =-_liDding IbIt
ebe _ for Wllicll ebe IOICII. traW,
40 ...... ,.. aaiIs, or nmways Itt pt.,.,....s ls
eaemial for1be cmNWzmerc or majnrm~ of I
DIe wIIicb Is e>presaIy penni"",, in lIDs dlap!<r
IIld !Iw tile desi." mlloaIion or Ibo: I'I'IJI'OSOd
I'OaI1o, !rUb, dri • ....,.., IniIs, or ........ ,. wi11
be oomp'h1*" widJ 1be ICrrain.
The ... or an .-.. !rUb, 4Oveways, tnils.
or nmways Ol!is!iJlIa!be lime or !lie odapIion of
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ZONINV 1872.030 .
UUs chap(.er which an: DOClCOnformir.,g 0 r ba~e
been ..... blished without proper iippnlvals shall
be 1e:milwc4 aDd .hoIl be returned to <W1U'>I
I<min unless Ii.." ~ in .'"crt!anoe with
!he n:JUl>!ioos S<j Jbnh in 1his d!apIer.
(I) GndiDJ. No r.a<fiDi for which • grodi!lg
permit is ~ shaI! be amlxJriud ttC<p< upon
!he se<:Uri:lg oC me.a:d design approv>L No such
approval WI! be B'3lI1ed .... -.pc upon • finding
lllat !be purpo<e Cor w!lido !he ,radin, is
proposed is =cuiaI for !be est3blishment or
moinI!:cancc oC. _ which i! OIjlI<SSly pe:mitIt<!
in IIIIs dlJpIU and Ibat !be design. scope. aDd
Iocmon oC !be gruIlDg proposed will be
mmpeble with adjacent ara:s and willl'CSW.l in 1be __ of1be_lIldlWUtall3M
fumres. All 8'>dina for _ "" pem!lu Dr
Ipp<Ovals ... requIre4 WI! be I\IbjcGI Ii> "'" pI'D\'I5icIIIS .., _ in 1his dlspoor.
(s) Soil _ and 13M lIIaDOi<"=L No
me me IOd desisn pIm shaI! be approved _
it Inc:Iud<.s soil e-... aDd sedimen! comrol
measures in accordance wil:b a:y adopted
procedures. re.c.bnicaJ Itmiflrds, and
opocili_ 0( !he JIIanninII comm iuion. No
~ wiiI be an=d uo!oss anDOO<led 02DSi0lI
control JDeL"l1teS have been cmnpleted or
p'_tDy pwidod fbr In _ wi'" said
-. and.."aficarims Tbe opplieoD! shaI! tear. final rnpoaSt'bUiIy m1llc inmTJ";,,, aDd
construction of an ~ crosioo contral
meuuro.s -=>nIing '" me provisions of said
suMatds and specifi£Afims;
(h) SubdivisioI1. All 4ivisiuos or !md imo
four or ""'rc pomols shall be dooiJned on me
_priD;jpIo and shaI! be designed 1D_
reads: to mjnjmju ~t. !iii. aM ~
opemiocs; III _ ~ in less raIIler
Ihm mme "'""JIicuons areas; and III ><hieve IIle
pu:poso oflbia cbopIor.
(i) ""bstmdan! kIcs. Any po=! onand DOt
meetiDg tile. area Dr cfimemkm .~ents of
IIIIs clJapcor is .1awM buildini sbr if 5:Jch f='OI
was • lowful buildiDs lite 00 1uly S, 1972. All
olller RqUiromems of :his clIap!er s/Wl 'P;Ily to
any such parcel
(On!. 3583 1114, IS, 198-4; om. l34Q ~4, 1982;
Onf. 3048 (pan), 1978)
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TO: PAlO AlTO PLNIIIINi CIlII!ISSION PREPARED BV: Mancy Lytl.
DATE: F,bruary 22, 199" fILE NO.: 90-UP-I~. 90-EIA-21
nl)JECT !NEOI!!IATIOlI
lo ... atiQ 9 i
ApR1 Sc a.nt :
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property owners:
pROJECT S!I!IIII8y
3000 AlexIs Drlv,
Pol. Alto, CA 94306
P.lo Alto Golf Ina Country Club
3000 AlexIs Drive
P.I. Alto, CA 94106
P.l. Alto Golf and tountry Club
Pal. Alto Golf and Country Club
Appe.l of the Z.nlng Adoin'strator', decls'on to deny
the condltlon.l .s. poroit t~ allow an 8,418-squore
foot flrst-and s .. ond-story addItIon to the .xlstlng
c.Dtmtr1 c1 ub
Tb. applicant proP6 •• s t. add 8,418 square f •• t of flrst-.nd .econd·floor
ore. to the exIsting focl1ltl ••• t the P.lo Alto Golf and Country Club. Tke
Idd1t~ons are for expanding the Members Dir.ing Roo., Ind far adding bithroocs 1 office aro. and storage at tho first floor. Th. project wIll .Is. Include
restrlplng ond l.ndsc&9lng the pirklng lot to proyld. Iddltlon,1 parking
spices. however, not ttl& ent'fre number requ1red by c.rd1na1Jcl! for the proposed
Increoent.l Incr •••• In floor ar.a. The ZonIng ~1.lstr.tor denied the
conditional use permit fer the expansion. citing the inability to make the
required finding, due t. tho objectIons. complaints and nuisance reports
received froo neighbor, of the propert~ during th. tIme fr~~ ~f thi.
appllcotlon and fo ••••••• 1 years prior. Furth,MIO'., the lppllclnt was
unwilling to acc.pt • prohIbition of special ev.nts .s a conditIon of
appro •• I. The applicants have .ppo.l.d the decl.ion.
IWl!!!!E!I!£!! ACIIOII
Staff rec .... nds that the PlannIng C ... lo.lon recommend that the City CouncIl
up .. ld the decision of the Zoning AdmInistrator .nd deny the condltlon.l us.
penolt for the proposed o.pansion to the Palo Alto Golf and Country Cl.b, 3000
Alexl, Drive, ba,ed on findings cont.'ned In this report.
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$lIE INF08!!AT I 01!
pan:e1 $11.:
[klstlng 19n1ng:
CQlPrthen;1y' Van
Designat iDn :
Dansit)!:
Ex'lt1"9 Ilnd Us,;
Surround1ng LInd UsC:
Mlstpa:
"'ndJtory Act1nn pate:
p: \Country'
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130 urn
182·35-008 and 182-35-035
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Open Space, Controlled Oe •• loPMeot
1 unit por 10 leres
RecTOltl.n. Country Club
Arastrid.ro Preserve to the north and ~.t
and low-dln,ltl. sln;I.-famlly housing
(RE. Re,ldenthl [stlto, to tho south and
east
July 20 Ind Deceober 21. 1989:
Prelh.lnll')' rovlow of the d .. lgn by the
Archlt.ctur.l RevIew Board (alnutes
attlclted) •
AprIl 11. 1990: Application .for
cORdltlon.' us. ponolt and lito and d •• lgn
fIled. lator det.nllnad fncoop1ete due t.
In,.fflclont plrklng.
N •• eKber 7. 1990: ApplIcatIon
suppl_nted.
H •• ember IS. 1990: lonlng Adm!nlstrator
belrlng conducted and continued to
December 7, 1990 (alnutos of the December
1. 19S0 h •• rlng ITO attiched. but the
.Inut •• of the Ho.eaber IS. 1990 b •• rlng
Ire un ••• liabl. due to ... lfunctlonlng .f
the tap. recorder,.
Deeeober 20. 1990: ZonIng Adono,strator
det'slon to deny tho condItional us.
p.~1t ~s 1Slued~
Deceabor 31. 1950: Applicant's appeal WI.
filed.
The PlannIng Coonl.sl~n shall hold a
Plge 2
~ronment'l lmp~ct A$sessment:
A!W.YJ!S
Project Qe,crjpttOD
/! J: -,.,/ ~{ ~ .J'-~'.! i'-Vll
public h •• rlng on tho Ippell by H'reh 31,
-1990. The r.e~na.tlon of the Planning
Co .. i,.lon I, to be trln •• ltted to the
City Council within 39 day. of the letlon.
"0 significant Impact and I negatlYe
dtclaratior. was preplrtd Ind i5 attlc~ed.
The Palo Alto Golf and Country (lub propos.s to add an 8,500-.quare-foot
dining rooa expin,lon to the socond floor of the existing country elub .nd to
reconfigure, tl'le interior space to add off1c.es, storage Ind restroOlls to the
first fleor. The plrklng 1.t Is being red •• lgned to provide 51 Idditlonol
PITting spices and 1Indsca~1ng. however. 71 spaces Ira required by a~inlnce.
Therefore. tht applieant p~poses to include, IS I condition of t~e Ule
penolt, tho provl.lon thit • folding diVider be instilled at the .econd floor
Meober. Dining RoGO. A portion of the diling ro .. could then be closed for
use whon the down,talr. dining ro .. ind .. 1 .. lng are. were open, but would be
available when these lraas Ire not simultaneously in use.
Background
The proposed project requires. cD.dltlonal us. penolt, tbo subject
appllc.tlon, and a Site and design appro •• l which would follow should the use
perolt be lppro.ed. The d.,IVn I.,.e, aro thorer ... not tho subject of this
application, which Is an appe.l of tho dont.l of tho conditional uso p ... lt.
IIIY«S Dt Concern
The Zoning Adol.lstr.tor denied the use penolt based on the following tssues
of concern. The applicant h .... ,ponded to tho •• concern, in ~IS letter dated
Deceaber 31, 1990.
Parking
The propo •• l _ill generate a .oed for 71 addttlona1 parking 'plces, but tho
appllcont propose, to add only 51 ,plce •• The reaalnlog parting need will be
Ill •• ,.ted through the us. of. rDOO divider that will be retr.cted during
tl ... when othor portlcn, of the club .... ot In us. and c10.ed when tney ....
Tho 1 •• u. of o •• rflow pirklng h •• fDr )Olr, been the subject of <-.pI lints by
tho neighbor. of the tlub, and te.tl .. ny by the ne.rby re,ldents showed that
the probl .. ha. occurred i' recently os No.eoDer 14, 1990_ ae.&Us. the .. thod
proposed by the "fP1lcant to .11 •• I.t. the parking deland IS one that the City
has I tttl! contro oyor i"d will have. difficult ti ... enforcing, the Zoning""
AdmI.I.tr~tor wa, not persuaded that the allowed explnslon would not beco ..
dotrl ... ta' to the public coovenlenel. The on-street parting constricts the
width of Alexis Drive, which I, a curving, rural configuration_ with nYmerous
p: \COIIIItryT Pogo 3
d1ffl~lt drlYOWlY Intrantes from the slngle-fom1T, ros1dences a, well "' froc
the Club.
Th. &d4ltlGnal squire 'ootlg. proposed by tho .lub will Illow opportunity t.
1nten,ify the special event f~n'tions, i.e'l weddfngs. parties. banquets~
ot •• , now ,nglged In by tho Club_ Although the new d!01n9 'acflltle, Ir.
stated to be for ..abeT us. only, tho project will Ilso fre. up Ir.1 It the
lower l,v.l for oore lntenslYe us. by outsld. p.rtl •• and .Ill the facllltl ••
oore attrl.tlv. for that purpose. Tho appll.ant WI' unwIlling to accept 1
prohlbltlor. of the speclll events as I condItIon of us. permit Ipproval. Th.
I.force .. nt of or conditions lfmiting the number and slzl of tho.e event. Is
problealtlc Ind costly.
Th. prl .. ,y trlfflc I •• u. which hi. been .11 •• d by neIghboring resident. over
the Plst .e.erll yelr. Is tho .lte dlstonce restrlct10ns It the"on;y
Ingre.s/egr ••• to the f.cl1fty_ Th1. antronc. 1, docwoonted to hive I
vl.lbllity probl .. i. the trlfflc ,n,ly.I, supplied by the applicant and
prepared by JHK and Assocllt... The neighboring resld.nt. hl.1 historlcilly
ca.p1alnod about the hlzard at th'. drl.eway, whIch the restdent. of the lrea
r0.1 I ... de worse since the use of .1cohol Is ccamon It the spectll event.
that tlte pllce at the club. The Police Deportment documents that three nan
IrJury .ccldents have been reported ,Inc. 1984, III of whlc~ hive occurred
since 1987. Two of the accidents Inyol.ad only one vehlcl., whll, a ..
lccldent Involyed three vehlcl... While the prebl .. wIth the drlyOWly Is .n
existing olteltlon, and the propoled project will not produce I slgnlflclnt
.I'aty 1~lct, the Inconvenl.nce to the other user, of Al •• I, Drive Ind the
potentlll Incidence or accld.nt, along Alexis Drl •• will be 'ncMll$ed ~y the
propo.ed Club expansion and res.lt109 Increased trlfflc. The Zonfng .
~I,!strltor had requested th.t the applicant Itteopt to address aAd re.ol.1
this probl .. I. 1981 when the Club made their flrot contoct reglrdlng the
application and tne first neighborhood .. etlngs were conducted. It w~. not
~'tll the decl.1on to de.y thl oppllcltlon wa. Is,"ed, Ihol substantIve steps
were t,k.n to correct the source of longst.ndlng coop1alnts. The app11clnt
ha ••• b'.que"tly cont,cted the City's Trln'portltlon DI.I,lon tc ,oordlnat.
the trlmoing of Yegotltlon Ind r .... ,1 of .orth for l~rovl"9 a .It. dl.tance
at this efttrihce~
Rts1dtnt PPpyJittpn
The proxl.,ty and den'lty of on-.lte empl.yee bousing for the Club has led to
""f,~e coopl.lnt. to the adjacent property owner, Hr. Glo •• nnott •• " Because
tho 80F'oye. qUlrter, Ir •• ery .1.1 .. 1 Ind thore Is no outdoor lrel deSignated
for the -.ployees they hl.e, Iccordlng to the neighbor, used tho roof of thl
bulldfng for this purpose, partlc.lor1y during hot WOlthRr. Th. proxl.lty of
tho .aployee QUlrters and the den.lty of occupancy of those qUlrters has lId
Ie 0 number of land us. conflicts, I .•. , nOise. litter, .t •• It was
rec...ended to the Club, .arly In the Ippllcatlon process, that measures be
tlten to buff.r IOd I~rov. or reloclte on-.lte the employe. qulrters so th.t
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populltlon frOM the Club or. conce"tr.t~ In I om.11 lrel adjacent to
the Delrest neighbor, Sal,"toro Ind St.ll. GIGVlnnotto. The l.t ... I ..
~1ch results rro. tn1s conetntr.tlon and number is 1ft eXClSI of vh&t
~ld be expected to result fr ... n~ other prlnclp.l penoltted use. d"e
prl .. rl11 to the lIck of .ny buffer between the no.rest neighbor and the
ll.tted lrea devoted to the re.ldent populatIon. Ag., •• t~~ .ppllcant
hIS bten unable to Iffectively Impro.e tht sltuotlon and reduce the
cOtlfl lets th.t arise.
tottsr of Appeal d.ted ~eober 31. 1990
Cetlslon Gf the Zoning AdaIDIstritor d.ted December 20. 1990
I!lnutos of the Zoning _Intstrotor hearing of December 60 1990
File corre.pondence
ApplicatIon .. torl.l, Ind .dd.nd .... Including tho .Iow ... 1,s1s In. tr.fflc
stud),
Negatl •• Decl.ritl""
Minute. of the Architectural Re.lew Board fr .. Jull 20 and Cece.ber 21. 1S89
COPIES sm TO
Lya ~l .. n. PlIo Alto HIll. Golf and Countr), Club, 3000 Alexis Drive, ,,10
Alto. tA 94304
S. Slporst.I., 3089 Country Club Ct .• Pilo Ait •• CA 94304
HUgb Kennedy Spencer Ind Assocllt.s. 700 Hlqh Street, Pal. Alto. CIt 94301
Gordon ",Clf.tock. 1400 F.shlon Island Blvd., SuIte 800. San Kateo. CA 94404
Russell Oa.f •• Wlro .nd Freldrlch. 400 W"11ton Avo •• Palo Alto. CIt 94301
S. Jerral SChwartzaan lnd Sonya Klplln, 3077 Country Club Ct., PlIo Alto. CA
94304
5.1 Glo.annott •• 3090 Alexl. Drive. Palo Alto. CA 94304
£ A. Walker, 945 Laur.l 61 •• DrIve, PlIo Alto, CIt 94034
Careen Scott. 3181 Alexi, DrIve, Palo Alto CIt 9(304
Deborah Meisel, 313~ Ale.ls Drlv •• Palo Alto. CA 9430(
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Wednesday, February 27, 1991
Regular Meeti;"lg
1. ApprDval of Minutes, Ja"~ary 9, 19~1. z
2. 330 EVERETT AVENUE: Application for a Planned Coomunity 2
zone chahge on three parcels at 324-340 Everett Avenue from
RM-30 Kedium Density Multiple·Family to PC (Planned
Comounity) to allow for con,truction of a 31,000
square-foot~ three-story building with 5] below-.arket-rat~
senior independent living, residential units ~ith
~ndergrcu"d parking. Environmental Assessment: No
Si9nific~nt Impact. A negative declaration bas been
prepared. file Nos. SO-EIA-55, 90-IC-II, 90-ARB-I95. Zone
District: RM-30.
3. 3000 ALEXIS DRIVE: Appeal of tne dec;,ion of the zoning 32
administrator to de~ a conditional use penlit to allow an
8,418 square-foot eKpans10n to the eXisting recreational use
(Palo Alto Hills Golf and Country Club} for a dining room
and related facilities. Environmental Assessment: He
Significant Impact. File No •. 90_UP·10. 90·EIA-21. Zone
District: OS.
4. Report and recommend,tions from the To .. r Weli Site 60
COI'IITIittee.
J. Sloc""
MINUTES liERE APPROVED, WITH NO CORRECTIONS, AT THE MAV 29, 1991 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING.
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This will ne~t travel to the irchitect~ral review board, and will return
to the planning commission at so~ poir.t yet to be determ1ned in the
futore. I assume that neighbors w~ll be notified.
Ms. Lyt1e: The next step is the architectural re~iew board, and th~re
will be a renot1cing for both the ARB and for the nut phnning corrmis.sion
m€!ting. I assume we expect the acc!ss issue to be wor~ed out even prior
to going to the architectural reV1ew board. We would want to see the
plans developed along thQ5e lines prier to scheduling it for the
architectural review board.
AGENDA ITEM 3 3000 ALEXIS ORIVE: Appe.l of to. decision of the zoning
administrator to deny a conditional use permit to aliow an
8 t 418 squarE-foot expan!ion to the existing recreational
"se (P.lo Alto Wills Golf and Country (lub) for a dining
r~~m and related facilities. Environmenti1 Assessment:
No Significant Imp.et. File Nos. 90-UP-IO, 90-EIA-21.
Zone District: as.
C~aina~n Marsh: Any questions or comments?
Commissioner Bgecham: In the dDcumentation, it was noted that Carl
Stoffel was going to perhaps inspect the landscape changes that were to
have been done. Any results on that?
~. Lytle: Our understanding is that the applfcant, since the fin~l
hearing of th! zQning administrator and the decfsfon issued , ~as worked
.ith the city fn grading back the intersection and r~ving seme Df the
MOst obstructive sht~ubbery that was at the entrance. Tne s1tuat1on has
supposedly been improved greatly since that time.
Chairman Marsh: We have a letter at our places ton'9~t frDa the law
offices of Ware' Freidenrich; also a letter from Russel' Oavis
representing his clie~t, Sal Gicvannotto, accompanied by i schedule of
events at the Palo Alto-Hills Golf and Country Club; anotner letter from a
group of homeowners bearing two pages of signaturE~, who are neighbors of
the project, expressing their support for the project ~nd the club's
ability to und~rtake its expanslon; another item is a memo from Ted Walker
and Carlene Stott~ expressing a positive statement in support of the
expansion.
I will now open the public hearlng.
Lvn Nelson. 3000 Alexis Drive. Palo Alto: [am the club manager of P~lo
Alto Hills Golf and Country Club. I haye been inyolved with or employed
by the club for eleven years, with the last five in the =anagement area.
Also present tooirht ls Hugh Kennedy who is ~1th our architectural firm,
Steve K1Kuchi who is w1tn the landscape design firm, and Eric Tweit who is
with the parking study fina that we had done very recently.
First off, ! wO!J1d like tr discuss some background of the hen it)'. 1t
WiS built 3G ye.rs 'go, well before t~e cre.tion of the Open Space
District. Only two homes were located in th~ subdivision when Palo Alto
Hills opened. We did not object to Open Space rezoning at the time,
becaus~ we ~re net aware it would ultimatel~ have an impact on
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operations. We did r.ot object to ~ubsequent combir.ing of the ,1lJbnouse
parcel with the golf c\Jurse piJrtel for the same reason. The /'lames f1a'lle
now been built a'I'cuod the club becausi? of the attraction of being adjdcent
to the open spac;e of tne golf 'O;Jrs~, Many of our neighbors belong to the
c'yb t and t~e facility is in demand by community organfzati~r.s for
char1tabl e events and by businesses and indivlduals for comp3n,}" parties
'Old wedding rE!ceptions. There are very few comparable fac;l'ities
available fn the Pale Alto area that we know of. Most of th~ pri~ate
clubs in the bay area? including San Jose and the nortn peninsular are
~art of i residential cDmmunity.
Ovtr the years, there has been an attempt to maintain communications with
the neighbors. For example, HomeowrlErs A.ssociation meetings are held at
P.lo Alto Hill;. Neighbors have been allowed to use the parxing lot for
th~1r parties. sharing maintena~ce of landscaping, etc. Very few
complaints have been recei~ed o~er the years, and it was only as i result
of pursuing this application that we learned that many homeowners do nat
belong tn the Homeowners Association, and it does not SP!IK for the
neighborhood as a .hol~. The expansion that is sought seeks to do far
more t~an merely add to fxisting restaurant space 00 the second floor.
Out of the 8,500+ square feet, 3,500 approxi~ately i5 for dinfn9 room,
l,10C apprDxi.ately for cffices, 1,2CO approximately for restrooms, and
approxtlUte-ly 900 square feet is fer kitthei1 storage. Tne increase in
kitchen storage space should actually reduce deliveries to the c1ub. [t
will iD no wa~ increas! traffic. lhere is no plin to expand the kitchen
or add to its capacity_
The addition of restraoms is ~orel1 ~eeded. At the present ti~, the only
Ivailable restrooros ar! tn the men l £ and women J
, locker TOGa .r~a$~ These
ire serviced by stairs and do not provide handicap access. The addition
of the restro~ms will not fn any way intrease the use of the facilities.
Additional office space is needed to accommodate cur current staff and
bookkeeping respcnsibllities. It ~as been needed for some ti.e. Tn!
nodtftcation cf existing office space contemplates reducing the heignt of
that part of the building by two r •• t, which should j~pr6v. the visu.l
iaoact on f!1!'1ghbClrs~· There is no present plan to hire any .additiDna-~
staff as a result of the increase in office space.
The addition to the ~xisti"g dining ro~m en the second floor should not
substantially increase club usage_ ~hen first presented to the
meabership, there was diSCUSSion of additional revenue as a result of the
additional space. The ~bers approved the expans1o~ on the condition
that upstairs dining ro~m not be used for outside tncn-~r) parties.
Tne dining room replaces and augments a~ existing facility -mich is
presently used for outside parties, and would no longer be av~ilable for
that purpose.
The facility is o"er 30 years old_ It news a face 1 tft~ The impro· ... ement
that ;s proposed ~ill have a beneficial impact on the n@lghborhoQd and on
housing prices.
There are pOints of conflict to sever.l of the flndfngs of the zoning
administrator. There is reference to a" oyerflo~ of parking. The yse of
that tenM may create a m's1mpression of the problem. Parking on Alexis is
a result of a cl\Jb act.ivity occurred only four times in the last twel ve
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mQnths, not once a month as ind1cated in the origin31 findings. The
parling in the street did nat occur as a result of the 10t being full to
c3pac1ty, but rather because of impatience of individuals arri~ing at the
single entrance to the parking lot at the same time. W~ are confident
that the problem ca~ be avoided by appropriate s~9nage and parking
attendants at the entrance to the street. One th'Jught tnat has not heen
~xplored is the po~sibl1ity of creating a no-par~in9 ~one on the club side
of the street for approximately lOa yards in each drre~tion to discourage
people from parking on the street and walk.ing in. There was no street
parking in DecembeT~ 1990, is a result of new sigr.age an~ parking
attendants. Ouring that month, we hosted approximately 36 events.
H~eyer, the neighbors had two parties that created i substantial ~rcblem
with parki~g on Al~xis and Country Club Court. The cl~b ~as in no waj
respons1blt for the situation that existe4. N€Tghbor parties creatfng
parking problems in 1990 exceeded the number of club parties resulting in
stre!'t parkiilg.
The park.ing lot will be restriped to add more than 10 park.1r,g spaces. To
the extent that there has been a real overflow proal e,n in the past, the
restriping wi'l improve the condit1on that presently exists and gyarantee
t~.t the lot vill never be filled to capacity.
With respect to tht entrance to the parking lDt, we have met with the tity
traffic engineer. He has .ade certiin suggestions for '~tt;n9 the slope
and removfng vegetation, all of wnich hav~ been complied with. The
biggest impediment to ingress and egress from the club entrance is the
result Df t~e fence, cact~s and o1eanders planted by the adjacent owners.
finding, of t~e administrator indicate that the activities of the club
have caused concern to the surrounding nefghborhood for many years, for
which the club has been unable to respond. Speaking from ",y tigre with the
club and a few compliints from the neighbor directl~ adjacent to us, Mr.
Giovannotto, thera is recollection of very few comp1aints. maybe three.
There have been ~ery few complaints conc€rning traffit or parking made
directly to the cTub. The (oncer~s I retal1 had to do _ith errant golf
ba1ls and teenagers trespassing and problems tkat are associated with a
rea1 attractive nuiianc~.
The number of emp10yees wno reside Dn the premises will not be increased
as I result 'Of the,project. They are adjacent t~ the Giovannotto
property. Mr. ancl Mrs. Gio~annotto built their current residence knowing
that e.pToyee housing was in its present location; they lived on the
propert) before they built. They were fully aware of the circumstances.
Unfortunately, o~er the years, a high degree Df animosity bas developed
between Mr. Gio~annotto and the club management for a number of reasons.
Over the years, we have tried to d~a1 with those problems. At one point
in time, we planted a series of trees along the fence line to break his
vi~ of employee housing. The trees died because of tne freeze that
occL!rred approximately three yaars ago, and we did not repl a~t ttlose
trees~ They were ~'Jt repTanted due to differenc~s ~;th trying to decide
what to plant at that time. ~e have since thon develoyed a proposal that
we are working 0" with Mr~ Siovannotto and with th~ project as it exists.
We have offered to divi~e the facility into sections and limit the use to
that presently available. This ~Quld be a conditiQn easily monitored by
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concerned ne1ghbors ~ho believe a condition ~f th€ use p€rmit is being
violated, the t1imination of special events, suggested at one point, is
not a practical so1ution. It would result in a substantial reduction of
'lub income and sales tax re.enue to the city; it would create staffing
probl2ms because of the lacK of full·time employment, and it would
probabl .... · result in a deterioration of the facility rather than its
enhancement. rt wo~'d certainly put Palo Alto Hills at a competitive
disad'Jantage with many (lother cl ubs in tne area. ~_lso, it is strictly a
matter of semantics. Private, flonpro~it clubs have a tax limitation on
the amount of business that can be derived from non-member activities.
They avoid that limitation by arranging for member sponsors of outside
eyents to disguise them as allowable, memb~r·sponsor2d functions. I would
~ow like to 1ntroduce Hugh Kennedy, who will to~ch on the desi9n~
H~ah Kennedv. 70n Hiah Street~ Palo Alto: r am ~ith SDencer Associates~
architects in Pa'~ Alto. I would like to run over the'des1gn of the
project. (Goes to the plans on the wall) The addition on the first floor
occurs here. This 15 the existing office space, ind here is access to the
new toilet rooms. As lyn expressed, they are needed because guests rt!3 ....
have to go to-the lock~r facilities. The rest of the aru. is k~tchen
storage t whfch is badl~ needed, plus a ~itre d's office. This is the
conference and aanager's office to relieve the staff area. There is an
eleyator added for handicap access to the upper level. This is the
eXlsting dining room on the upper level. [t is a very pop~lar area with
the club meMbers. as it has i c~lfghtful view of the bay. We have changed
the dining room to be yery slim and long to minimize views from the
ne1ghbcrs located on hills ne~rby. A portiDn of the roof and port~
cochere are being iowered l~~ feet to improve views from above.
One of t~e things I wlnt to emphasize is that the club had meetings with
the neighbors, which I attended. S ... of the things th.t came out were
concerns about s~lights, so we took them ~ff~ replacing tne~ with i cDwl
roofing which does not shine light directly out. Some of the neighbor.
above felt that t~e equipment on the roof was very unattractive, and that
w!ll be painted to Batch the roof and c~ouf1age it. We ~de i full-size
mockup to descr1be w~ere thE roof would be, and photographed it from all
sides, showing that ~one of tne properties will have a negative impact O~
the'r view of the bay. lie n~ve als<l lIade thSs lIodel. as requested by the
raeighbors.
CommissiGner Glazier: How much will this proposed addition cost the club?
Mr. Kennedy: It is abo~t $1.2 .ill10n.
Commissjoner Gljzi€~: Wow do you come up wit~ that figure?
Mr, kennedy: There is a contractor involved who gave us tnat number. It
included ill stair, which is no longer needed. So roughly under a million
dollars.
Chair'lla" Manh: There are two parts tt} this project, as. 1 'see it. One is
the 8 ,500 squ~re-foot addition to the members' dining room. T~e second is
the reconfiguration of the space to accommodate the restrODmS and storage
space, etc. I am not clear on b~ those two items are related~ Co~ld y~u
do the reconfiguration of tne space without naving the additional square
. foutage?
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tlr. Ke-r.r;e-!1t: No~ that ne .. space is needed to prolJide the office space and
bathrooms, and the storagE-for the k.itchen.
Chai.P"I\'Iiln Marsh: But the new space; s in the :l1embers I dining room.
ar. Kennedy: N3, it is on both levels. The 3,500 is on the second level
for the m!mbe~s' dlr.ing room? and tne remainder of the 8,SOO ;s on the
first level. That includes two stairways and the handicap elevator.
Chairman Marsh: And almost 5,aOO square feet on the first fle~r?
Hr4 Kennedy: Yes.
(h,irma" Marsh; And that is f~r bat~roams, storage and added offite
Spice?
Mr. kenn~: Yes~
Chairman Harsh; Do you anticipate additional emplcy~es for thit new
office space?
M~4 Kennedv: No, that is to accommodate the present employ~es.
Cnajrmtn Harsh: ]f we look at this purely on a square footage basis, it
appears to me that the SO parking spaces that you are providi~g would
;allow you to build perhaps 5 1 000 additional square footage. My Question
to you 1. whether it 1. feaSible for the club to do an expan,lon that
provides no parklng deficit for the amount of addttional square footage?
Mr. kennedy: ~hen we first made th! parking calculation, we added the
number of spaces based on this addition over w~at was previously in the
record as being needed. We met that need by adding that amount of
parking. S1nce the". staff has reviewed the entire facility,
recalculating it based on occupancy, and has come up w1th a deficit of 20
spaces. We nave a proposal t~at .ill cover that by 5creenf~g off
apprDxi~tely "alf of the addition in the dining roo~ upstairs when thzre
is a party of over 300 being contemplated down~tairs,
The other part of that question is, we had an upgrlde to the parking study
done this weekend, and the parking count is very gDod. At this point, we
do not exceed the needs of the parking lott and do not antfcfpate thet the
addition will do S04
C~ajrman Mars~: a~t there are times when you do eKceed the p3rtfng~ four
ti~$ in the last year.
~~: No. That was not exceeding the limits Gf the parking lot.
That WiS people parking in t~e str~et out of frustratiDn in trying to get
into the loti becau5e the cars were backed up.
Chairman ~arsh: 00 you think the reconfiguration will tak~ care of some
of those problems1
Mr. Kennedy: Yes, and some other methods, too. One of the problems, as
you approadr the cl ub, ;s that Y{lU do nat know where the turn-in is
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located, $0 people stack ~p there. We have a1ready added a sign, and tnat
problem ~as been 'mpro~ed. But what happens now is that when you get into
the l"t, thera is sti "11 confusion as tc where to go r so people stop again
to loo~ around. causing more traffic to b"ck up. SC) the trillffic engineer
~as pTcp.,sals for that also. T~e cl~b has instituted parking lot
attendants, too. Oecember is their l:ll~ month for parties, and tt:ere was
no oyerflow i~ December. so the combination of signs and parking lot
attendar.ts has essentfally so1ved the problem.
Cna1rman Marsh; aut let me mak.e sure I underst<ind' your ans\oI'er to the
initial question. Is a lesser expansion feasible?
Mr. Kt~nedy: I ~u1d think SQ. 1hey have set a standard of ~hat they
would like to have.
Chairman Marsh: r would like to ask a que~tion of staff. Mr. Kennedy
referred tc $ome changes in the parkin~ numbers that otc~rred o~er time.
The def'icH figure quoted fn the staff report of 20 spaces. does that
relate to the ~xpansion OT to tne facility as a whole?
Ms. Lytle: My rec~lTection is thit it relates to t~e expansion, and that
they are 20 spaces short for that.
Lha1tD@~ Marih: What dD ~e know about the fac11it1 as a whole~ and cDuld
you explain what Mr. Kennedy szfd 1n te~s of revised staff numbers
relating to parkfng spaces?
Ms. Lytle: I am not sure ~it he mea~s ~hen he talks Tev;$ed numbers.
Nt. Kg.oed,: Vhe. we first .. t with staff, they ~nt back to the flIes
a,d found that wit~ the l.st addition to the building, a •• ry s •• ll
e~pans1on to th~ ladles' locker ro~. 231 spaces were required. 225 were
prevfoysly required and another sfx were required for the added locker
roo. space. With that, we made the calcu1ations, and for the new space,
we calculated 77 additional parking spaces required. We went out to the
~ite and made a caunt of what was there, and there were actualTy 257,
rather than the 231 required spaces. The owner had dorlf some extr;a
striping at so~ pOint. We n~eded 308 1 and when we subtract th~ 257
eXisting, ~ add 51. Rhat we discovered was that the parking lot is very
generous in th!ir spaces --nine foot, sfx inches instead of eight foot,
S;A inches w~d!, for instance. T~ere are nQt compact spaces pro~1ded, so
we are able to restripe, adding a11 the planting islands required by the
city, and came up with 308 spaces.
Ms. lytle: They had originally come in under tne assumptIon that they had
a credit of parking, and we examined the project and detenained that they
had not included in the~r parking count the pool area and locker rooms,
which put tnem in I deficit position. So tney had counted on 20 $pace$ of
credit in their ,alculations origina1ly fn meeting the parking
requiresents for the add1tfon. Wnen we did our normal calculations, we
determIned th,t th.y were 20 tn the hol~.
Chairl@" Marsh: Your current position in te~s of parking is that you are
not~. the hole.
Mr· Kgnnedv: That is correct. rn fact, our traffic study will further
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corrDborate that.
C.olJ:rnissioner Huber: If I understand wnat YOll are saying, you do not
Quarrel ~ith the square footage aspects of ~~at ;s required for parking
spaces, but that your usagE ;s different.
Hr. Kennedy; Yes. Steve K1Kuchi \IIIould like to present ii desigra, is a
nEighbor is con.cerned with y!ews.
lli\l! Kikuchi. 745 Er..erson Street. Palo AHo: It.'e have been working with
the club for quite awhile in relation to the .expans ion and other areas.
We were requeste~ to address the current situation on the western prop~rty
line with regard to the ~esternmost ~ei9hbor, and the impacts of our club
on his property. We looked at the sit~ation from two standpolnts. One;s
the view (rom our club along that :Top~ that is uphill toward~ his
property, as well the vie~ frGm bis pr~pe~ty ante the cTub. One of his
=ain concernS was their view over the employee housing area and onto the
remainder of the ,lub, the existing b'ji1ding, as well as their view
ta.ards the proposed e~panslon. This pl~n more or less r~flects a lot of
the proposed landscaping, as well as some of the parking let la~dscaping
and some interior plantings that we hope will mitigate some of the
impacts. This plan is an enlar~ed version showing that we are ~king a
sYbstantial effD~t to improve the ~ployee ~ousing ~rea by landscapi~g and
providing a recreation area for the employees.
This sectlen shGWs the concept of what we are attempting to do with regard
to hfs sight lines from his property over the club. We are proposing to
plant shrubs along the slope which will grow to a certafn height and ~lock
h1s view of the employee housing directly below~ In addition, we are ;lso
proposing interior plantings within the club whIch will .itigate 'Ole of
his views such as his views of tne restroom facilities relat1ng to the
pool and the receiving service ar~a related to the kitchen facilities. To
supplement this, we took some pictares from the western property 11"~
(which were passed out) and did an overTay to show the Impact' of the
proposed landstaping~ Tnere will be some additional plantings screenin~
out the receivi~g ar€a, and some suppleme~tal plantings O~ the back side
of the housing fatility that screens out the swimming pool area. SQ what
you are seeing now fr~m his property is extensively landscap'ng and
gre~nery, with very little of the fac~lfty sho~ing. we also feel
cor.fident that this screening will block a ~ijor;ty of the proposed
expansion, as well. We also felt that in co~ination with t~e
imptuiements shown on this plan, and with the landscapi~g of the parki~g
lot, t~e views over the eHtire c1~b will be vastly improved t with th!
n~r of trees we are addi~g to the pariing Tot and with the interior
landscaping WE are d~ing? as well is the slope plantfngs proposed. With a
lot of the plant ~aterial we .ill be usfr.g, we will try not to repeat the
Mistikes made in the past. The plants will be drought·tolerant and more
frest-resistant than what vas planted before. An irrigation system will
be in~t311ed that ~ill be morf reliable. There will have to be some tYPE
of co~tinual maintenance to make sure they perform in the manner t~at we
want them to do.
Commjssioner Beecham: ] h~ve questions about the landscaping:
will you beg'. inst.ll.tion? (2) when wlTl it be complete? (3)
expect that the drought will have any impact on the ability to
successfully ~aintain it?
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M~. Kikuchi: The lnstallat10n is r!late~ to the approval of the
expansion. A lot of these i~provements are tied into the entire proposal
f~r the e~pansion of the club. As f3r as the effects as a result of the
drought, they are dr~ught-resi~tant p1antfngs. Prooab1y a drip irrigation
systelr. '111111 be-installed, anowing the plants to thri\.'e in a hea1thY
co~dition. They wl11 probably not grow as fast as we would no~ally see
if it was not a drought situation. We feel confident we car. get them to
thrive. As regards their maximum impact, is with all landscaping? it is
not an 1n~tantaneous effect. It cou1d be two years before we attain the
effect we are depicting in these photo9raphs.
Commissioner Huber; There is a f~nce there no., correct?
Mr. K.ikychl: Yes, there is a chain-link fenCE: on the property line~
COfIItIi$$ioner Huber: So it is not a fence that blocks the Yiew~ if it is
enaln 1 ink.
~r~ Kikuchi: No, it dD!s not~
~fssfoner Huber: from what position is thfs scene oepicted in the
photograph we bave?
Mr. rikuchi: Tbat was taken from the country cl~b property, standfng en
t~e club side of the chain-link f~nce. Unfortunately, ~e could not gain
access to U,e neighboring properties to talc.e pictures.
Commissioner Cullen: The photograph could not have been take~ at street
level. It &ust have been taken at some height.
Mr. Kikucni: Yes, it was taken from tne westernmost ne19hb~r of th~ club,
approxlaately 30 feet higher than the club. It is 30 feet abo,e the
parking lot. .
Cysmissioner Cul1&n: Ho~ does that 33 feet compare with the elevation of
Mr~ ---I have forgotten his-name.
Mr. Kikuchi: This was taK£n rjght at the property line adjacent to his
residen(e. We triEd to approxireat! his vie~s as accurately as we could.
Cammi$slDner Culle~: ] also have I concern about the water situation.
Given the regu1ations that are coming u~, are you using Palo Alto water up
there? (Yes) And of courSE we are b,und by the Hote' Hetehy r~"l.tions
corning from San Francisco. Just tonight, tne paper said that e~en public
golf courses are not going to be watered ~nder the new regulations. So I
1M concerned.
Mr, K1ku(hi! i feel fairly confident that something can be attained. For
instance, a lot of the freeway plantings that ~ou see are droaght·tolerant
plir.t;figs that ~;ght just rece1ve winter w2terfngs and occasionai summer
waterings.. T~ose are done in a very inefficient manner with ii lot of
spray lost in the air. These would be do~e witb a drip irrigation system
which would probably use one Dr two gallons p~r week for a large tree.
CQIITli$s;onei· Huber: What is the length of the screenir'lg Hiat needs to be
done?
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Mr. Kikuchi: Approximately 300-4QO fe~t. alorg the ~r.tire slope of the
we~tern property. That is what we are ~r~posin9 for landscaping on t~at
slope. A lot of the precise 1ocation of plantings-will be don! in the
field in order to maximiz! their streening ability.
Cormlissioner fiub2r; ] am interested in whether you are tt·ying to screen
for the benefit of the neighbor, not for the benefit of ~lcyees ind re£t
ar!iS. I am curious about tne length that you have to screen in some
fashio~ to protect that uphill yroperty owner. That is about 300-400
f-eel?
Mr. Kikuchi: No, probably the length to screan the employee nousing area
would be only .bout 100 feet.
tORlissioner Huber: Will that also scr~~n the ~tility dropoff s€rvice
~rea, as well?
Mr. Ki~uchi: Yes, it w~t'd s(re~n the maj~rity of that. ]t would not
screen the storage areas we na.ve depicted in tile ph(ltograph, but tie think.
we can do tnat with b~ckgr~und screening.
Commissioner Chrfstensen: H~lp me to understand how this landscaping is
tied to the project, and why it COLJld not be dOlle now?
~r, Kikuchi: That is a question for the manager. We were requested t~
propose this mitigation melsure as a result of concerns by the nei9hbors
in relationship to the expansion.
Chairman "arsh: ] belielle there is another person "rfho ~ishe.s to lI'Iak,e I
fOnlal presentation.
Eric Tweit. JHK Assocjatgs, Emeryville. CA: I would like to pass out this
report which we just completed. We originally did a traffic study for
thfs site in January~ ]990? a~d some concerns were rais!d since that time
that t~e study did not really address a time Dr event at t~e club thlt had
is significant impa~t as s(lme of the other events do througho~t the year.
So we were asked to retm"n this past Saturday and take another inventory
of parking. fran what J u~derstand from the club ganager. ih~s past
Saturday was a good day far it. There wa~ a lot of acti~ity at the club.
Tea times were booked sol:d until 2 o'clock, and there ~re t~o parties,
one in the afternoon of 230 people, wnich [ am told is a large party for
an aft~rnoon. There was an evening party of 200 people whicn they
cons1der tJ be medium sileo Some of tne larger parties, when they do
occur, are between 200 and 350 people. The study ob~iously did not catch
an activity like that, but] tried to project what conditions might be
oito • larger party. If you look at Tabl. One in this report. it
summarizes th! (ounts that were taken, The right-hand col~~s are
lS·minute summary counts of the number of cars entering ~nd ex1ttng. From
that. we deduchd the number of cars parked ir. the lot at any given til1i!.
If you look it 11:45 •.•.• shortly after tho first event had begun. there
were 255 cars park!d in the lot, ~ich was t~e peak for the day. That
would include people wilO were there golfing a.nd fOT the party.
It has been noted on the plan that tnere ire now 257 spac~s it the site.
Wher. I was making the counts, there wa.s no time that I noticed only two
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!:piC'es left in He lot. There were Hsual1y 10·20 :;paces vacant. nu~
ccunts "'ere c'Jntinued into the evening for the start of the party held in
the eveni~g. As you can see~ it began it six ~'clock. and 130 tars were
in the lot at 7:30 p.m. fn observing the cars as they ent~red the lot in
the morning) there was only one insta~ce when there was a queue on Alexis
Drive, conSisting of four cars. Thdt did not last more than two minutes .
• e did n~t1ce that cars do slow down as they approach th~ drivew~y. and it
is Mstly Dut of clJr.fusicm IS t{l whether they are at the country club. We
soggest that there ~re ways to mitigate this, firit, by having a sign in
advance warning peop1e that the country club is. for Example, 500 feet
ahead~ and second, .a sign right at the drivewal. .~ho, Ol1CE they get into
the lot~ we recommend a cIJup1e uf thin9~ that co~ld be cone --eith~r
having an attendant thEre t~ direct tr~ffic t~ keep them moving once they
enter~ One of the problems is that o~ce you get into the driveway, tnere
is another turn to the right to one of the lower levels of park~ng.
People slow dQWn as they try and decide whether to turn into that lot QT
to cDntin~e forward. We suggest e~tbEr having someone there tQ direct
them to keEP them going forward -! el~~, reconfigure the curbing so that
people cannot turn into that first lot, making It an exit only. Or.~e
people tur~ in, they would keep driving (QTWlrd. Also~ place another sign
inside the lot to direct people Either to the v.let p.rking dropoff or the
passenger dropoff or to the other parking areas.
In looking at what I maximum party activity might be for the parking l~t
right now, I sade some assumptions based on my counts. For example, in
the mornfng at the very o~tset. there is usua1ly ~bout one persGn per car,
usually the mon coming to play golf. As you get closer toward the party
time, it is generally two people per '¥-e-hoicle. Given that there were 230
people at the afternoon party, and issuming people p~r Cir. that is 115
cars that ~re parKed there for the party. T~at 12aves 140 spaces in the
lot for other members who are g01f1n9 ar ~njoying other activities. If
you project that to assume 250 people, which is more a maximum figure for
an afternoon party. and probably even higher, that would mean about 125
cars for guests. If you add that to the 140, you get 265 cars, leavIng
about 43 spaces for additfonal traffit that may be generated. In the
evening, there is even EDre space left. We calculate about 103 spaces
iva11ab1e for par~ing. That i$SUmeS a maximum siz~d party uf 350 peDPle~
Th~re are obviously times when the parking lot does come close to being
full. The country club has proposed Qne method to mitigate the 20-space
deficit that is sai~to Dccur~ Their plan to close off part of the
upstairs is i valid one. frc. ; tr.fffc and parking point of view. We
also s~gest another possibility. They do use valet park,ng now for large
partfes. If they desjgnated an area for ~alet pi~king. they could park
more cars than there are spaces by parking t~em closer toget"sr , to aake
up for the deficit.
Steve S.a:perste'in , 3089 COIJfltry Cl4Jb c.o·Jrt. Palo Jo.Ho: I live on the
corner of Country Club Drive and Ale~is Drive. directly across from the
entrance to th~ tiub. j want to tilt about traffic. [do not have the
l.test traffic study. The only one I nave is the one .ubmitted with the
ipp~ication back in November, which ;s a 1Dt different.
The current traffic estimates during events is report~ i~ the application
by the Palo Alto Hills Cou"try Club. They observed a 20 pe.cent full
park.ing 10t when they d1d traffic flow st\ldies. I do not kflOw whether
this new report includes traffic f10w or not. r would like to address the
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trilffic now proble!l1 Ir.'e have. If I assume that their numbers are correct,
6S cars wert observed ir-. one hour ta nal f hour befare and after-the start
of an eventJ i.nd the parkIng lot was .20 percent full. If 1 then
extrapolate tl'lat ttl the parking 10t being full, that would mean t~.at there
wo~ld be ; total of 233 cars in that hour. which means four cars every
m1nute going up Alexis. Al~xis is a very narrow street and tnat is a lot
of traffic for-A1exis. The proposal that ""e have before us would add
another 33 percent of flocl'" space. ] aSSUriIe that i full p.a:rking lot wi11
also be the case at times, then. If 1 extrapolate those numbers, we would
9tt 303 cars per hour before and after an event, which comes out to fl~e
cars per minute going up and down Alexis. I think. tI'1at is a very large
a~~~nt, considering what is gDing on, ] do not want tQ see th~t number go
up~ [jotted down some comments on tnls new proposal as it was being
stated. They said 255 people in the lot, meaning two spates left over.
Don~t understand ~ow th~y extrapolate frDm ,55 to 350 people it 3 party
would leav~ 43 p2rking spaces open. This is the same cor~any that did the
same survey that did the original survey and found 20 percent in the
parking lot and concluded that was the t~affic flow, based on that. [can
see wmy the staff might nave had soma problems with that.
Another question on the report waSt there was 140 spaces left over
according tu tne calculations of two people in each car for members of the
club. That also includes employees t so please, tn your counting, also
include employees and members of the ~lub. Also, it was not summer so
there would be no pool actlYlty right nryw, ] ~uldn/t thfnk. My
conclusion is that the or1g1nal study that was submitted was rea1iy flawed
by a factor of a1most fiYe, Ind it should not be considered. [f you
notice 10 the addendum submitted by the club on December 31, 1990 to
support this action, it said essent1aiiy that the traffic problems as
stated by the report done by JHK the list time, there would be no tr.ff1c
problems, at the very botto. of that addendum. Please consid~r that in
your dis,ussion. Flye cars per minute is certainly nut benefiCial to the
character of our community. Our neighborhood ;s RE, and I do not want to
see any DIOre cars come up tne s.treet than is r.ecessary. Tt.e Ulird t~ing
is t~at if the events are attended at less than 1QO percent, traffic will
still increase, and any increase i~ traffic is not wanted.
My sec?nd p~int 1S noise. We nave had a lot of nofse from the club. We
live down the hill a little bit, and the parki~g level is above, at abcut
the same level as thi! setond story of cur house. Just ilS recentl" as two
weeks ago J a party was breaking up. There was a lot of nofse about ):30
1._. in t~e parking lot tnat woke me up. This happens about t.1ce a
month, somewhere betWeen 12~30 and ]:30 at night~ peeple are blowing
horns. At first we tho~9ht it was t~e staff, but now we ire quite sure it
is the partygoers that make this noise. [t is rather disturbing, a~d
igain, an increase of 33 percent floor space is ~bviously going to make it
.orse t rather than better.
The third point iS t as far as the cluh claiming that the dining room will
be used for members Gnly and not have any i~ict on thp bookings of t~ese
banquets, in one breath tnty say that. I just picked this up O~ the
addendum is I read it this eVEning, and they say that there will be no
further banquet loading by this expansion. On the other hand, if you read
tne.--addendum, it says, wiUi the dub so restricted in its use, it would be
no longer economically feasible and they wo~l~ develop it into
Single-family h~s. This is the threat naw that if they cannot get tnis
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1nl they will ha~e to develop single-fam11y homes. lhis s~emS t~ be
contrary to what they were saying before tnat they would not use this for
banquet space. Now is this fer income or 1S It not for inc~me? Thank
you.
RY.i.ul1 0.\115. 400 Ham, Hon Avepuc>, Palo AHo! I am a real estate
attor~ey in Palo Alto representi~g Sal Gio~ann~ttc. I wou1d il~e t~
begin by passing out a series of photographs. Hopefully, you have setn
some of thee already. They wi11 relate to some of the comments 1 will
make. The pictures speak for themselves. I want to resp~nd to so~~ of
the t~in9s that the project proponent stated. First of all, .s to Ms.
Nelson's comments, r believ~ she stated erroneously that the proposed
addition is only going to extend two feet about the existing building
height. I believe it is, in facti a five-foot extension, and that does
impact ~ client's view.
It is continually emphasized in conM.ct'ion wit". this project that U1e
added dining room ~s fo~ members only. But yo~ have to see bey~nd t~at to
note t"e rea' effect of it. Right now, they ba'o'e a '1er., large dining
rOOB t bigger than these cQ~nci1 ch~mbers. They are adding I room that is
about the same size. ]t doesn't ~an anything tc restrict the usage of
the added room to members only, because that completely frees up the
exfstfng room to rent out to partfes. As it is now, they have to divide
the usage of the existing facility between member functions and spe(ial
eve~ts. T~ey derive income from the special events.
~t the zOhi~9 adainistr.tar h~lring, it ~as noted b'1 one of the
neighboring residents at a meeting early on with the homeowners that the
purpose of t~is addition was, i~ fact t to make ~ney. That Is the reaSDn
it started out, and I think they have done SOQe thir~s to try and •• sk
that, but nothing, as far as that goes l has changed.
It was stated just recently that overflow ~as o~ly occurred four times in
the past 12 DOnths. That Is si~ly not true, as '080 of the neighbors
will tell you, It was stated .150 by Ms. Nelson that the trees that were
plar,ted died threE' years age in ttl!' fre€ze. 1 do not remember any freel&
three years ago that was strong enQugh to kill tre~s. One of the p~otos
in tf)e file speaks clearly as to how efft!:ct;vely th'! dub has dealt with
the mitigatlon ~easures. These trees wete simply allowed to Gie far lack
of water. ~iven the current c1rcuastance~~ I don't tnink the country
club t aven if it were so inclined, has the power to adequately water new
trees, even if they were drought-tQlera~t trees~ It takes a fair amount
of water to get landscaping established. That as • proposed mitigation
measure is not 90ing to be effective at all.· -
As to the ~1tigation measure that is proposed for adding a screen to
screen off one dining facility or t~e ot~er, agafn~ that is type of thing
that is impossible to police. 9y the country clubts actions, as will be
SUbstantiated by th~ testimony of ~eishbQrins residents, .11~1ng ~
~1tfgatiDn measure like that to support an expans10n like this, and
trusting the club to put up the screen and make sure that no siRUltaneous
events occur is just not going to be effectiv~ at all.
As far .s the <DOments about the lan~scaping go, things 11ke t.at WOuld be
benefiCial, but they are really a peripheral issue to what is really
involved here. What th~ club is proposln9 is essentia1ly
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COITITIerch11zatlofl in an open space district. nat is a big part of the
reason that the project was denied it the i~nin9 administrator l~ve'. r
do not want to get into the ne~ traffic study. not having see~ it. I
think that baying a study like this pr~sented at the time of the planning
·commission hearing speak5 for itself in terms of the intent. This project
has been going on for mOTe than a year. The zoning administrator hearing
I1.appened in November. an::! J found it intEresting that the traffic engineer
stated that they did the study last Sat_rd,y bec.us. the club thought it
WDIJid be a good day tn do it.
I wa~t to emphasize t~at at the loning administrator hearing on thiS
issue. the findings were mad~ that t~e proposed use would be detrimental
to property in the vicinity and is not in 3ccord with the Palo Alto
Comprehensive Plan and litle 18. That;s the dirett CGnverse of what you
would have to find in ordar to approve t"is project. Sinc! this is a
conditional use permit, in order to appro~e the project, YDU would ~a.e to
fi~ that the proposed use would not be detrimental. The zoning
administrator went beyond R'.erely finding that ttle proponent could not sf)o~
tnat the project ~uld not be detrimental. The zoning administrator
actually found that the project would be detrimental. ] thin~ that the
statements that the neighbors will ~ake will substantiat~ that better than
.nyt~ing else I could say on that point.
In reading over the file, 1t is evident rrom the "~merous letters written
th,t the neighbors oyerwhelmingly f.el th,t the CO"otry club is already
operated in such a way tnat it is a nuisance to them. Allowing an
expansion that they are proposing will only aggravate the situation
greatly.
YDU haye .11 s.en the country club schedule that they published as to the
n~r of special events. In february ilone, there are ~ine scheduled.
As I understand it from the nefghboring r~sideflts, this is the slow season
for them. The spring and summer are their real busy !eiSOn with regard to
spech 1 events.
Chairman Marsh: In the packet of information t~at caMe to us, there was a
letter from you regarding Mr.JSiovinnotto's willingness to Deet .ith the
club any possible modificati~ns that wouid lessen the impact. It sour.ded
like an offer to try and n~g~tiate far some mid-ground.
Mr. Davis; There ~as never anyt~ing specific mentioned at all, no
speclfic mitigation measures. I did meet with Gordon McClintock and
walked through the club. W. tall<ed about some possibilities. On. thing
that .y client mentioned would be possibly lowering the iddition dawn four
or five feet SD that it would not extend the eXlsting roof line. That was
out of the Question. frO!l the club~s perspecthre, and thej did not offer
anything concrete for us to respond to.
Jerr~ SchMartzman. 3077 Country Club Cqyrt. Pilo Aito: Let me state at
t~e outs~t that 20 years ago, ~hen our house was built, the country club
was there. That was one Df the reasons that our house was b~i1t. Having
i private country club in the area has some beneficial ~ffects on o~r
propert! values and the amenities. Most private co~ntry clubs, however,
do have some limited outside rentals with catering activities. This is
usually limited to meabers having personal guests OT company functions at
t~e'club. In this instance, all reason has been abandoned. You have
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before you a case where i private cou~try club has decided to go ~~Q'e hog
into the cOlMlercial (".atering bUsiness. The.,;, are attempting to interject a
large, c~rcial enterprise into one of the finest residenti,;;1 estate
lreas of the city_ When I say whole hog. I mean just that. In your
packets tcnight, you have an agenda !)f e"'ents that "'ere held in O~cember~
There was 34 private, clter~d events plus the usual club events such as
Christmas parties, golf events, etc. 34 catered (ommercial events. We
find this to b. completely intolerable.
let's analyze together what tnis propcsfd addition will mean. When the
club has a l1embel~ ellent scheduled whiCh is too hrge to be held in the
.embers-only dining room, they have t~ hold it in the sain dining room.
This pretludes their renting the ~a1n din~n9 ro~m. If we follow this
t~rough and make a ~1gger members-only dining roo~, tnis allows t~e main
dining roo. to be rented out more aften, hence, our abjection to it. Thf!
will free up the main dining room for even more commercial events.
Analyze, please, the reason for wanting to do th1s~ It 1S obYio~s that
the real reason is that the mor! money they ta~ make on Qutside c~rcial
rentals, the less it costs them in monthly dues, hente making the
~ership value jump commensurately. D~es now run $200 per montn and the
value of the aembi!rship is approximately $75.000. I car. on1,)' say to them.
If you ean't stand the h •• t, get out. They say that If all0w0d t. bulld
this expansion in the members dining room, they will clase it off and riot
use it, by means of a folding CUrtain screen, when theye is a major event
goIng on fn the dining room_ ] thint tney actually Expect you to believe
that. If you were to fill for this ploy, who would polIce It? Would we
,.11 the police? The planning director? Ms. Cull.n, would you like to
have a ph~~ cill from us at ~ignt when they have these events? No, of
course nDt.
There ire a coupl. more things that just don't add up wIth this project.
One is that they said tn&re would be I decrease in outside commercial
actl>ity because of thIs addition. That Is some more poppycock. [ask
you. !fIII~ build it if there is going to be I; decrease '" activity.? It is.
okay If they want to add johns. But wby add more restaurant spac. if they
are going to hal/e less activity? It does r,ot follow. A 9000 friend of
.ine asked one of the board members. what is this going to cost us? He
said it is not going to cost you a~thing. W! will nave at least a
50 percent increas! if! activjt1 that wlll pB'y for itself. Has. anyone
considered the impact on tne adjacent neIghbors, like los AltDs Hills?
.~re specifically, the one mIl. of Page ~ill Road whIch Is serpentIne from
Alexis Drive to high.ay 280. ThIs i ••• ery dangerous road. Los Altos
Hills Is not going to Improve It. First of .11, they tell De they do not
have t~e money, and they hiV! never been checked w1t~ on this project·
until the other day. Then they called Ms. Lytle and checked on it .lth
her. It was the first time they were evtr consulted on ;t_ It dOP5 have
a big Impact on them.
The credibility of the club leaves very much t~ be desired. I can say
thls frca past history. If you driv! aiang A1IXlS Drivel y~u will find
ten trees t~at have died along the street that they put fn because of past
requir~nts of the planning commission and other boards. They are dead_
Mr. 6iovannotto ~ad another planting which has been referred to several
tl~s, and they died. We had the fight with the. on theIr driving range.
The,}" said, nO I we are just repiacing an eJCist1ng driving range fence_ A
bunch of bull. They made It three tImes as high and twice as wide. It
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wasn't an existing fer.ce at all. Base-o' upon past perrot"lTlances, take
everything they have sai~ with a grain of sa1t.
~OlJ ha-.:e seen 1 etters from adjacent hOr.'.e'Jwners who do not Di!long to th8
dub. "'ou hilllt! re-ao' the r!port to Ms. Lytle. Stop this encrcar:nment into
the RE zone. Put this corrmercial activity on the n Camino whi!re it
11<10ngs. Thank you.
,ha1rma~ Marsh: fn your comments, you referenced the bathrooms. There
are two sections to this project. One is the upstairs members dining room
and the second is the restroomsloffi~e/storage on the first floor. Are
your objectfons to this project primarily focused on the expansiop of t~e
members dining room?
~r, Schwartzman: Yes. The commercialization alTows for ~uc~ more
commercial utilization of the club, more traffiC, and tne things that go
along with it. If they want to add a l~dies johr.~ J Ciln understand t~.t.
]f they want to do some fac~lift1ng, I ~an ~nderstand tnit. 30-yea~-Dld
clubs need it. but the) don't need to infringe upon our property values by
putting a commercial enterprize there.
Sonya Kaplan, J077 Country Club Court, palo Al1Q; J have lived at this
address for 21 years, and ] h2ve seen s~rne dramatic changes in t~e
nelghborhood. In the early years. it waS ~ little ~re ruril than it is
nov. ]t wa~ a place for children to pl;y and adults t~ ~alk. It is no
longer safe to walk Alexis Drive. As I walker, I have been forced to
drive elsewhere in order to f~nd a safe p13ce. It doesn't ~atte~ what
time of day, ]f you are an early morning walker, it Is the problem Df the
golfers c~i~g up to the club. True) it may be some of t~e neighbors
leaving to go to work. but the increased amount of traffic has r.ade it
very unpleasant to live ;n the neighborhood on a beautiful day, on I
Saturday or Sunday, not to be able to walk Gn tbe street. Vou also have
to understand that we do not have side-'IiIa.l k.s, but in i. neighborhood zoned
as it is, one does not expect to have l race track running through there,
The problom of traffic has been, long-standing one. The fact that there
;5 I stop sign exiting the club, as well as I stop sign on Country Club
c.ourt, was riot always the way it was. It was only ~fter a great many
protests and cails to th2 police, etc. that those stop signs were finally
put in. 1 appreciate the fact that the club and the city hive .arked to
clear aw~ the 9~eeneTy that was obstructing some Qf the view it the
entrance, However~ ill that does r.ow is t~at instead of having to come
out halfway into the intersection, you only have to come out I q~'rter of
the way. ]t;s still a ~eri dangerous inttrsection. For those coming
down AlexTs Orh'~ fro.tll above the cltJb, it ;$ haurdous. When I ceme up
the street to tu," onto Country Club, th.ro is no stop .1gn. I hold .Y
breath and bope that nobody is going to bit me, On two occaslons withi~
the last two months, driving Oown Alexis Drive between ]0 and 11 in the
morn~ng, d~ring the week, delfvery trucks have been on their way up to the
club. ~y do j know they are for the country club? Because they are
delivering canned items, the bread truck, the l,quor truck I ind instead of
sti.ying on their side of the road, as they come around the corner, tney
are c~ing straight at me on my side of the road. and r ~ave been forced
to swerve off th! road. T~is has been an ongOing problem t~at needs to be
addressed. I find it extremely distressing tllat in the 21 y •• r. that I
have lived there, neighbors periodically h,Ye tr1ed to get together with
the club. and periodically, the club does try and ~ake nice, the rea1
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problems nave nat been resolye~. Adding a large addition to the club is
onl~ going to compound the problems that already exist. S~ I please ask
you to ser;~usl~ consider that there is a history to this country c1uh,
the~ is a nisto~l to the neighborhood and th~ ongoing problems. I do
bel!eve we would likt to work together and worK it Q~t~ but not at the
expense of us as h~~owners.
Oeborah Meisel. 3132 Alexis prill!. palo Aito: I am also against Hie
expans~on Df the club. I am against increased traffic. I agree with
Sonya that the regrading of the driveway mitigated tke hazard of the
entrance and e~it to the club, but ~t ;s still very dangerous. It;s not
an acceptab1e solution. ] have only lived 1r. the nei9hborhoo~ for three
years, but I hive seen the incredibility of the club already. 1 saw the
trees die beh ind the Giovannottos property and on .Ale.xis. Drive. I feel
that this driveway has been th~re for I long time and has net been
changed. Why should they be allowed to dos such a bit interior ~~pansion
vitho~t really f;~ing fund~lental probiems that are really a hazard. I
~ave t~ree small childrer'. and it makes me really scared when they begin to
drive. Peop1e drfnk at tn! clUJ, and they have to come c.~t almost halfway
tnto the street. I can't tell you how many times I have almr.st been hit.
I feel that the club has to really stind behind its word before it is
allowed to make such a large .'panslon, I also feel th.t I dld not boy
into this ne19~borhood to have a commerclal enterprise there. Tn1s was I
private club. We hear t~e noise in the summer, whfc~ does net bother me
because we are far awaYt but I can see how t~e nearby neighbors would be
very bothered by the nofse. People in t~e swarner freq~entlJ roam around
on the golf co~rse at nig~t after parties. It usuall~ does not bother met
but 1 do not feel real comfortable about it when It is late at nig~t. I
just feel there are a lot of prob1ems that should be faced bofore an
expanston. Those problems have been brought up before, and no viable
s~lution has come across. I also think that _~en they try to use a
bargaining chip af. when they get the expanslon t then they will replace
a" of the landscaptng that they were supposed to ~ave already done, that
bothers me a lot. That is not. way to nogotl.te with neighbor •.
gaman Rag, 3087 Alexis Drive, PalQ Alto~ I live rig~t opposite t~e
country cl~b. I ~aye ~en in the neighborhood for four years t ana 1 moved
nere from the flat lands of Texas into this hilly, winding community. I
found that to be pretty interesting at first, but then I fOllnd it to be
pretty danger(lus ilS .. ell. My kids used to ride bcikes in Texas, but cmt
here t~ey have a problem riding the bikes, or even walking. One of the
problems I first faced was that the sc~ool bus did not COGO into the
neighborhood. I h,ve three kids and I had to prevail upon the Nixon
school boa(~ to get t~e school bus to CD~ there. "~tnere are at l~ast
12 or DOre children at the bus stop oppOSite tn~ country elub. Oider
people are not going to 1 he forever an.1; will have to sell their hO!1les, $0
we have to look at the future of how this neighborhood Is going to be.
More c.hildren will mo\'e in. My kids for two years had to waH: from my
house. abo~t 8/10's af ~ mile. to Page Kil' Road to catch tht b~s Every
~rning and ev~ry even1ng. At t~at time, they were ages 7. g and 13.
T~ey have been almost run over marlY times li-2c:a,Jse there i5 no sidewalk.
It is absoluteiy lJnacceptable to !lie to see all these stringe cars speeding
and trying to C~ up these driveways. This ~as to stop, b~cause somebody
is golog to be klll~. So ~ first objection ls the trafflc, If you look
on a Saturday Dr Synday from 280 to Alexis Drive along Page Mill Road,
approxi~tely one ~ile) you see a lot of bikers. There is hardly any room
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for them. T~ey go up Alexis Dri¥e. too, and W~ have a terrible traffic
problem. It has to stop. I agree with Mr. Saperstein about the traffic
~ensity and frequency. ! have had occasions when a number of cars have
turned in my dri~eway in the middle of the night to back out. The lights,
etc. bother us, and we have the noise from the club at night, 12:30 or 1
o'clock, and I don't 5~~ anybody actu~lly supervising these pe~Dle. I
h~ve attended i couple of times at the club, ana the traffic was
terrible. People were a1most drur.k, a~d I don't want this neighborhood
with people walking around drinking and carousing out there. This has to
stop. So I have very basiC objections to expanding the club and trying to
make trois an economic enterprise in th@ ~iddle of a quiet, calm,
r~sidential neighborhood.
T~e oth~r problem is, 1 don't kr.cw about the landscaping, but there have
been pine trees that ha~e been there f~r 20 years or more t~at are dying
on Alexis Dri~e. There is just unbflievable damage being done, so I don/t
thi~k the 1andsc.ping th~y are propo$ing is going to happen. ] am
hasictlly against tnis and ·.,nl strongly protest any change in the club if
it happens.
$.al Siovannatta: I live next door to the country club. You have heard
ill the complaints abo:.Jt the rloise and people drunk at rlight. I am 20
feet aw!y from them. J am 20 feet away from the delivery trucks; I UI 20
feet a.ay from the club when people are wa"dering aro~nd drunk at ni9~t,
and this has been all the time. As a matter of fact, the question was
asked about the cycl~ne fence. Tne club did it, because people were drunk
at 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning. Between me and the country club, there
is a bill, and there is a beautiful view there. At night. people liked t~
go there and s1t down and look. They would wander up to ~ doer and
urinate in ~y yard; that is wby xe hao to haVE that ugly cyclone fence put
up.
The .ay t~is thing started, w~en they notified us that the club wanted to
do an addition, the president and vice president ~re there and a1' the
h~owners arDund there. They had an attcrney and an accountant there and
the way they explained it was how much they were going to make i~ revenues
and ttow they would get their lOOney baclc. in nve years. The ,,'~o'e
conversation was that it ~Duld not cost the club a penny because it ~ould
all be done in fi'le ye .. rs. That was the way it was approved by the
members. Now they keep changing but the members that voted for it before
still tninK that thfs addition 15 not going to cost them anything.
I am here for the traffic. People park in my parking lot all the time.
We have a fire hydrant that we had to install when] put an addition on .Y
house , because .est of 280 1S a fire hazard. The hydrant always ~as cars
blocking it. We have to call the police; we always have to do something
about that. You know how dangerous the exit is at the club. It tooK on~
man one hour to do what they did. There has been notning don~ that took
more than an hour. Why did tney never do it before? Wa have been begging
them to do tnat. Tney spoke about my trees dying from the freeze. That
is not true. The head gardener told us that he was told to conserve water
and not to WitEr them, although t~e sprinkler system is there. It was
fnstall~ when the trees were p18:'\ted. They have been trying several
wells b~t hive never fo~nd any witer, so there ~s no hope for that. 1
called for a well at ~ place, and they told me that I probaoly wDuld not
have .ny better luck tnan the country club.
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for them. They go up Alexis Drive, t~o. and we have a terrible traffic
probl elI'.. It has t<l stop. I agree witn HI"'. Saperstein about the: traffic
dens tty and frequency. I have had Decas ions when a numher of cars hav!
turned in my drivewa~ in the middle of the night to back cut. The lights,
etc. bother us. ami we have Hie noise front the club at night, 12:30 or 1
o'clock. and I don't see anybody actually supervising these people. ]
haye attended a couple of times at the club. and the traffic was
terrible. People were a'~st drunk, and I don't wa~t tnis neighborho{lc
with people walki:ng arC'·und drink~ng arid carousfng out there. 1hfs has to
stop. So I have VEry basic objections to expanding the club and trying to
~ake this an econom)c enterprise in the middle of a quiet. calm,
residential neighborhood.
The other problem is, I don't know about the landscaping, but there ha~e
been pine trees that have been there fer 20 years or more that arE dying
on Alexis Orive. There is just u~believable damage being done, 50 J don't
thin~ the landscaping they are proposing Is going to happen. I ~
basfcally against this apd ~;Tl strongly protest any change in the club if
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Sal Giovannotto: J live next dOQr to tne co~ntry club. You have heard
all the cOIIpli:ints abt)\Jt the no1se and people drunk it night. r am 20
feet aw~ from them. [am 20 feet away from tne delivery trucks; I am 20
feet away fra. the club when people Ire wandering around drunk at night,
and this has been all the time. As a matter of fact, the quasticn was
asked about the cyclone fence. TbE club did ft, because people were drunk
at 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning. Between me and the country club , there
15 a hill, and there ;5 • beautiful view there. At night, people liked to
go there and sit down and look. They would wander up to my door ar\d
urinate in ~ yardj that is why we had to have that ugly cyclone fe~ce put
up.
The way this thing started, when they notified us that the club wanted to
do an addition. the presideQt and vice president were there an~ all the
homeawners around there. They had an attorney and an accountant there and
tbe way th~y explained it was how .uch they were going to make in reye~ues
and bow t~e)' would get the-ir money ba.;:k in five years. The whole
conversation was tnat it would not cost the cl~b a penny because it would
all be done in fiv~ years. Tnat was the w~ It was approved by the
aeobers. Now they keep changing but the members that voted for It before
still think that this addition ;s not gOing to cost them anything.
i am here for the traffic. People park ;n my parking lot all the ti ....
We' have a fire hydrant that we had to install when I put an addition on my
house, because west of 280 is a fire hazard. Tnc hydrant alw~s has cars
blocking it. W. have tD call the police; we always have to do something
about that. YQU know how dangerous the e~it is at the c1ub. lt took one
.a~ one ho~r to do w~at they did. There has been nothing done that look
more than an hour. Why did they never do it before? We have been begging
them to do tnat. They spok. about my trees dyl"9 from the fre.ze. That
is not true~ The head gardener told us that he was tol~ to conserve water
~nd not to water thea, although the sprinkler syste. is there. It was
installed when the trees were planted. They have been trying several
wells but have never found an) water, so there lS no hope for that. I
called for a .ell at my place, and they told me tnat I probably .ould not
~ave any latter 1 uck than the country club.
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Regarding the club's creJlbility, you can l~ok in your records. They hav£
been red ta99€d se· ... er·o11 times. ,.hey got red tagge~ ~hen they put in a
tennis court, and when they put in spot lights at night. They never
checked with the neighbors, and they had to be red tagged. Now they put
in i bt'ncn of posts to st(lP the balls. They had to be Ted tagged again.
They told ~S, we have to do this, or it wf11 turn tnto single-family
res1denti3l. They cannot afford the $200 fees every ~onth.
I couldn1t ca~e less if they cannot afford another problem. It is the
traffic. The noise. If you go there and try to get in or o~t of the
cTub, yo~ will see how dangerous it is. Go up t~ere at night after people
have had three or fDur dri~ks> and see how the ttreet looks like. People
j~mp over fences. lt 1S a dead end street, and pfo~le don't know their
way. My own driveway is dan~erous. So this is the wrong area to do this
c~r(ial enterprise.
There fs the e.plolee housing next door to me, only 20 feet away. ~hen I
moved in, 1 WiS aware there were SDU~ people living there, but I was not
aware it would be families with children. We knDW there ire children
tf)~rt! because they are registered with the Palo Al to schools. There are
pictures of people gOing up on top of the housing and putting mattresses
up there to play cards and drink. The pres;dent of the club was with mo
when he told those people to get down and stop drinking. Tnis is only 20
feet away from my house. I didn't bargain for th1s. They put up tne
ba'loons but they were not done prop!rly and did not show the height.
Everything they do is i mistake.
When they talked about t~is picture. th~y said they could not see the
height from the nei9hbori~g property because they ~ad no ~ccess. They
have been on ~ property about 15 times. and always with my consent. They
have nev~r been refused access to take a picture or study something. The
president of the club has been to my place four t1aes takir.g pictures, but
have not 9iYen them to you. I am 20 feet away from the club. One night
abGut four months ago, there were people stabbing people. There is a
pnlice report about it" People were talcen to tne hospital. This is
beciuse people are drunk and there are too ~i"Y people there. There has
been shooting. People are s.hooting deers. The police have been called
about this. J ne~er bar9ai~ed to have this kind of people next dODr to
me, 20 feet away. Thank y~u.
Barbara Deer~ 2944 Alexis privet Palo AltO: I live at t~e bottom end
of the street, and get .11 the traffic goin9 "P and down. It is not _
constant~ it is once in awhile. I am glad I dD not live on Middlefield
Road. The tre.s they ar. talking .bout belong to the city. I think they
just got cold, and may still be .1ive. They all turned brown, but they do
belong to the city? and they can't lay it on anybody else. 1 notice
people walking on tfie strut all the time. They are men, they are 'Women-:
i don't see any kids, but they run, they walk, regular joggers and
walkers. There are also people who ride bicycles up and down the street.
We have 26 homeowners who singed the letter not objecting to t~e cluh's
expansion. ] don't knov if tnat is a majority or a ~inoritYI but I do not
like bEing tol~ that the majority th1nks something, when 1 ~ not sure it
is true. I did ha~e trees. freeze three years ago. They had just
recovered when they froz~ again.
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A1i<:ia Koijanl! 2987 Alexis Drive. PiI'o-,~1tQ.: I li .... e ju~t befC}re He
cOl.lntry clLib, We have 1 ived there for 23 years, and nave .always found th~
club to be a v~~y good neighbor. We ha¥~ good relationships ~;tn them.
My husband a!'ld I WE're president of the neighborhood associatirm tine y~art
and found that al' the people at th~ c1ub were v~ry willing te listen to
us. They let us use-He dining roorr, for meetings, and tried to be
amenable. If ther! problems. they were i~'ai1:able to talk. to us. The club
has always been a commercia' vent~re. The ~utside parties ~ave always
(Kcllrred. We hQ'~e unde!"'staod that. This is nothing new that it is going
t~ be turned into I moneymaking project. That is what it has always
been. My husband 2nd I walk on the go1f course and we walk on tne street
ill the t~me~ We go out in the early mornfng and late at night. We
really do not have ar.y prob1em. w~ do not have any trouble ~;th trucks or
teo many car.s~
The trees did die~ and that is too bad, but they were cHy trees. We went
through tft.fs when we were involved with Vie town . .Also the new plantings
t~at have been ~ade are doing ver~ well. As far as the parking lot is
ccncerned , sometimes there are big parties with a lot of traffic 90ing up,
but it doesn't last very long. We have net been disturbed by them.
Occasionally there i~ a line of cars i but we really do not feel we have
been inconvel1ienced by them. Aho , when we are up Ulere swiDlli!"lg and
there is z party going on, we do net feel 1ncIJnlienienced by any of these
commercial parties.
Pian! Bgt~QI$, 3101 Alex15 Drive, Palo Altp: I live right across the
street from Sal and Stella Giovannotto. I want to tell you that I have
lived there for ai.ast ten years. ] wa~ treasurer of the homeowners
aSSOCiation for eight years~ J hav! always found the club t~ be very
cooperitive and ver, helpful to the neighborhood. I feel badly lfstenlng
to tbe trouble ,bout traffic ,od people being ,frald to walk, because I
walk every day and probably am a hazard myself. IS I ~ave a dog with he.
There are over 75 ~omes fn our nefghborhood. I .lso r •• l badly because
there are six dr'vers in ~ ho~sehold, and we have eight cars. Sal and
Stella Gio.annottD have five or sfx cars. If you go to those 75 home. and
ask how ~ny people have how ~any cars, we all have a l~t of cars. When
you think of all the comings and qoi~951 we all go too fast and we kno~
that. This seems to me to be a tempest in a teapot over not very many
square feet for a dining fatility~ It seems to me that there .ust be some
way to work this out, People are upset about a lot of thfngs which we ill
contribute to , and there must be i way that it can be worke~ out.
Chairman Marsh: Since I ~iye no other cards from members of the publiC,
will close the public hearing and return this item to the planning
cOImIisslan. ] would like to aSK .'Is. Nelson to return to respond t.r)
questions.
Coamlscjoner Cullen: What are tne open hours of t~e club?
Ms. Nelson: Starting time for the golf course is 7 e'clock in the
oomfng. If there f •• private fu"etion, th. 10.t call for .leohollc
beverages is at 12:30, and binds are required to leave between the hours
Df I:CO ond 1:15 a.m.
(~1i$joner Cullen; A question for staff. Does the original use permit
spell out conditions, such as open hours, etc.?
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,,5. Lyt1e: It is a prE'!-existing use, so !t did not have c conditiof1al Lise
permi t.
(9!TI!!1$s;pner Cul1en: I am concern~d about the landsc:.pfng. "'hen we
IPpr-oved the driving range addition with the new fence, there was
landscaping that went along with that. If that is not in very good shap-e?
I ani wondering what ho1d we w~u1d have on that. Would you ebject to a
bond on the new landscaping to ensure that it is actwally installed?
Ms. Nelson: Certainly. I believe the trees that ar~ ~entio"ed are those
t~a.t are along Alexis Drh·e, not those withirl th~ driving range
Tandscap1ng. There is c condition within th-e approval of the driving
rartge that if the trees die over a five-yeer period, they ha .. 'e to be
replaced. Secause of the ;:r;consistency writh the weather, right now~ there
are about five tu ten trees that look like they may not come back. We
lost a11 of our front shrubbery and a lot of vegetation on the golf
course. We are waitin; until the situat10n warms up before puttir.g
planting in again, since they are apt tc die.
Commjss1oner Glazier; I have a fEW questions
additior.~ It has been stated tnat you do not
or increase fees to members to pay for this.
about the economic; ef the
plan to increase ~embersh1p
Is tnat true?
"so NelsQn: No, tnat is not true. QU1tE probably, we will be incrfasing
fees to the membership to support the facility~ The original proposal,
the one Mr. Gicvannotto spoke of, involved the architectural firm of
C~urchill and Associates. That initial presentation showed one room tnat
could be divided into two sub-rooms. The interpretation at that time was
that the ~rea could be r~nted c~t for additional outside events_ When t~e
pr~po$al was brought before the m€mbership, the members~ip approved the
proposal, based on member-only.usag€~ It was internal and was in the
ballot~ etc., because the membership did not want a facility that was
rented to the Dutside bot not gi~e them the enhancement that they were
looking for.
Tnere was a quest10n about dates that will becoae free or available for
bookings~ The calendar shows that there ~euld be f~ur additional Sunday
dates that would be available, assuming that all the me~ber activity WOUld
be up in the new, me~bers-o"ly dining roam. The current memb!rs' grill
room can seat 80~86 people; the downstairs room can seat up to 400 people
without a danc~ floer. we have c!rtain golf functions that involve a
shot9un. The shotgun is where e~!rYDne goes out at one time and comes in
at one time, which normally involves about 135 players_ Under these
circwastances , we ~nd up hosting tbe dinner downstairs. ether club
functions, d;nner-dances, things of that nature, will still be conducted
downstairs becaus~ we end up with an attendance of about 200, and the new
enhanced. members~onli dining room does n~t provide a danCE floor.
CQmmissioner Glazier; What percent of thi:; addition will be p.aid for by
extr~ commercial activity?
N:. N!lsQn; What the club has leoked at in the1r long-range finantial
plan£ (we have a1most paid for the land entirely), so the a.o~nt of money
that is going for debt retirement and ~rinc1p.l will be allocated to
financing the new dlning room. Bised Qn the project and how many other
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areas the club is 90in9 to have to look into, Mr. Kennedy q:loted a price
of abGut a millien dollars. If the landscaping enhancements are added,
that wtll change the project cost t so we cannot make a con~itmp.nt ~ignt
now IS to what the actual costs are going to be. We are in a ~csition
where tne project has changed Enough that we wi1l have to go back to the
mem~ership and repropose and tell the~ what it wi11 be. So I affi sorry]
cannot ma~! a firm tommitment.
(.QII!!;ssiQner Glazier: Ho~ many private parties did you have last year?
~~: last year ~e ranged between 8 and 13 parties a month, except
for Detember, wh~n we had 36. So that is close to 175 events.
C0lQ1ss~oner G1azier: What is the Jve,.age re-venue tnat you recei\le froln a
private party?
Ms. Nelson: Five thousand doll~rs 1S average.
Commis~jQner Glazier: So if you had to pick up SO percent of the cost of
tht!-Minion donar Addition frot prhate parties -~
MSl NelsDn; We ~innot look at private parties for funding. If the
private parties are gofng to support, fo,. example, .. portion of the water
bill or af some othe~ expense, the funds are already cONMitted. What ~
have to look at is member-generated income, ~ether it t~rough the
transfer fee income, that we get every ti~e a members~ip is sold. To
clarify that, a sember has to resign in order for a new member to came in,
so the population is fixed. We cannot go out a~d sell new memberships~
Normal .ttrition is 16 members~ips per year, amounting t. $22,000 per
transfer.
Commissioner Glazier; The Question [ ha\le betn driving at is, what kind
of new volume are you lo.king at with the addition of th1s project?
Ms. H£lson: We are looking at $25,000 additional inco=! from the four
additional dates, if booked. They are all Sunday dates, ~ich are not
highly marketab1t. If they were Sat~rdal nights, I would say ~e ,o~ld
book It 100 percent.
Commissioner Christensen: I asked eaTli!r w~y the landscaping had not
bee. replaced between you .nd your neIghbor t~ the left. It ooes not s.~
to Me to be related to this prOject at all.
Ms. Nelson: No, it doesn't, and we were wrong. The trees died because of
the free'e. The person who was responsible for Ba\nta'ntng that area left
our ~loy~ The prGgram that exists now is very different from the
original propos.l for the trees that died.
Chairman Marsh: Of those special events that you bave 1 how many cf them
in a year exceeded 300 people?
Ms. Ne'son: Approxi.ately 10 to 15.
~r.an Marsh: I believe staff explored with you a potential condition
that .ight be placed on this application which would be to limit special
events, in particulaT. very la~e special events. The information we have
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at this point i$ that the club would not be willing to entertain s~c~ a
limit. Is that true?
~~: Depending on the scope, I nad heard tonight for the first
til!le, would the ,h.b ent.l!rtain limiting very large parties to no more than
ten a year and those ~ere parties of 300 and greater, I would not have a
problem with that at .1'.
Chairman Marsh; Regarding Ue partitior" r have diffirulty ur'ldel'standing
h~ that would ~ort physically. You talked about putting a partitio~ in
the Members+only dining room. What 1 ~isudlize fs that the members would
come to the c1~b, they would park, get out of thefr cars and go upstairs
before they found out tnat there was ~o pla~e for the~ tn sit. So it
seems like that partitfon would send nem?ers away earlier, but it does not
sound li~~ there i$ a practical way for it to keep those members from
cQming to thE club.
Ms. Melson: I d.on!t think. that a partition would dE'ter members from
cQfIl.;ng, one way or tne Dth2r~ j think they in'e going to come or make a
phcne call and ask if the partition i5 up Dr not. The time in qUEstion
~as to GO ~ith when WI!' host swf. ~ets, and there is a lot of activity by
the pool~ Someone m~de I comment earlier that we did the parking study in
february when the pool is not open. That is very accurate. The PQol is
open when th!' weather" gets rea' nice. That lias an i~act. If there h a
lwim .eet, there is I great impatt. A more realistic appr~a'A ~ould be
that the club limit the sile of an event. If there is a $~im meet, to fix
a size of perhaps 100 or 150. To me, that is DOre realistic, and th~re is
.ore ability to monitor that. But ta put up a partition up ~en you hay!
full occupancy on the pool deck is a b~ndaid. and very difficult to
enforce. But if we took our pool scneduTt~ when we have I meet, and the
pool deck is goIng to bP. busy. then it is easter to ~onitor that~
Chairman Marsh: I want to ask you the same question I asked Mr~ Kennedy.
You have t~ pieces to this project. One is the members lounge and the
second is the office/restrooms/storage area of 5,000 square feet
downstairs. Do you cgnsider tnose pieces to be ~ndependent of ~ne
another?
Ms. NelsQO: Yes. But I will tel' you that the primary reason for the
expansion is for tht m~rs-cnly dining room. That is the real focal
po1~t of tne presentation to the aembership, tc enhanc~ the area that they
currently have. A subset of that is to create new restroom facilities and
additional offices, storage a~d elevator and handicap iCC~SS. Our
~ber5hjp is getting older, ind ve have t~ nave staff 1fft people up into
the different levels. That improvement addresses that.
Chairman Marsh: I understand that employees liying on site numher arour.d
12. Is that correct!
Cnairman Marsh: Why do you have so many employees living on site? Is
that J neceSSity?
Ms. NelsQn~ The emplGyee str~cture Is for those who are on a lower i"come
range. It is ~inly for aalntenance perscnnel~ busboys, dishwasners, etc.
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and it is a way to provide them with i source of 11.ing at an affordable
rite whn e we al so get them as employees of the club. We pay tnem minimlrrn
wage or greater. but close to minimum wdge.
'"airman Harsh: So it ;s ~n employee benefit.
Ms.~ He-hgn: Yes, definitely. As I understafid 1t t the original purpose of
the employee housing was to provide access for employees and to provide
~ousfng for low·income personnel.
Cnairman Marsh: Your title is ma~ager of the club. is that correct?
(Yes) So you are an employee cf t~e board of directors? (Yes) Part ~f
What we are grappling ~ere has to do with bistory through the ye.rs of bad
faith on the part of the clob. I am very curious about the fact th.t
there are nD members of your board of directors present tonfght~
Ms. Nelson: Unfortunately. Mr. McClintock, who has been involved with the
project since its inception, Was summoned by a judge in I settlement
matter and could not attend. Several Df the other ~ard ~mbers were
contacted, and they are out of tawn. It is unf~rtun.te that we do not
have representation of the board.
Cha1rman Karsh: You can certainly unde~star,d that cne of our CQncerns
would be the commitment of the board, shoyld we pass something w~t~
cond,tions, to enforce those conditions.
Ms. Nelspn: The board itself ~as gone through I reorganization. A
jieiT-and-a-hal f il~O my title was 'Club Hanager.· My current title is
-General Manager.' As generii manager. I hay! the rasponsibilittes of the
greens superintendent and the golf professional. That was part of t~e
problem. You had r.anagement bod1es who ~ere reporting to a board of
directors once a mont~, instead of managemfnt personnel daily~ Tbe
landscaping at that tiee fell under the greens superintendent, and there
was no followup.
Cha1rman ~arsh~ ] appr~ciate your candor.
Commissjoner Beec~am: Part of the problem staff hast] beli!ve, with the
applfcatton is the shortfall in parking. Th~y calculate that t~at is
equivalent to 1,20Q·],300 square (ett, depending on the type of ~se. What
would be the club's reaction to redUCing the project by about that amount?
Ms. Nf)son: I just learned about t~is t~!s evening. It _as proposed to
.e that if the space was cut out to a certain rQW and If t~at would have
an iapact, what we are really looking for to meet membership needs is an
area thlt seat approxi~ately 135.-140 people. [believe ttle area that i $
presented right now can seat approxim!tely ZOO peopl~. So it might work.
Commissioner Glazjer~ Could you compare for us the number of private
'parties that you had Uree yeirs Igo is opposed t.o the number of prhate
partIes you had last year?
Ms. ",lson: I started \, the pro shop in 1983, and I dId banquets so I
can ~tve you I close figure on that. The number of parties ] would say is
the s ... , the same since aDout 1995. We do two fynctions on a Saturday,
Ind one if we can book It on a Sunday~ Prices have gone up, but I believe
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the attendance and numb~r of events ar~ ahout the same.
C.hairman Marsh: [t11\'e a question for staff. Regarding this cal-::ulaticn
in the pDtenthl condit1ons for appro-val (the set of findings and
conditions that have been prepared by the staff and passed out tonight,
should the commission decide to appro~e an expansion), the calculation of
20 s~aces. You note that that would require reducing the project by
1.304 square feet~ and yet my underst!nding was that only 71 spaces were
req~ired for the entire 8,500 square-foot addition. 1t does not look to
me like t~at cal,ulates correctly.
Ms. lytle: That is assuming the restaurant square footage. The ent;r~
addition ~as broken up into storage, which ;s a very low pa.rking
generator t bathrooms being a very 1~ parling generator, and the
restaurant being a high generator.
Chairman "ar~; We ire now ready to begin d;scussion.
CommlssiQner-Cullen: I am having great difficulty with this application.
With the previous application. some of YGU commented on how ambivalent yo~
felt. I feel ambiva1ent ibout this ene too, but am co~ing down on the
side of fr.tensiff~atior. ~f a nonresidential use in an area which is
rtsfdantjal~ Th~t is not what we envis10ned whtn the country club was
allowed up th.re originally. I .;gnt feel a little better about it if I
felt that they have been good neighbors, but a lot of the complaints that
I hear indicate that they hav~ not been. Over the years, we ha¥e seen
evidence of that. S& I am nat really willing tu take a chan,e t at this
pDi~t. on all of th~ promises they are making in tne hopes of getting this
increased square footage. Even though it 13 billed as additional square
footage for members, it does release other square footage down below for
what is essentially a commerc1al use. SG that is the side I am coming
down on. Unless some of my fellow c~fssioners Cin convi~ce me
otherwise, I am going to uphold the zDntng administrator's judgment with
the findings.
Commissioner Christensen: I ~ pretty ~uch in agreement with (onmissloner
Cullen. lltho~gh 1 felt t~at Chairman Marsh was leaning towards the idea
of di'fiding t,.. . .e space. Maybe we can do that ir. our delib-erations. I do
~ot have a problem with the bathrooms and reconfiguration of the office
space on the ground floor. Th~t does not add to the intensificaticn of
the use. and it benefits the membershlp. The other area does give me
pause, and cause for concern, even under the 1;te5t proposal for limiting
the sile of the square footage. I need tG be convinced thit the
intel'lsificatic.n could be controlled. I do nGt have much hith in
~~"itoring use permits on a complaint basis .
.t;gnmission:er Glazier: I have a. question for staff. Ha~e we ever attached
a condit;~n related to attendance as part of a use permit? How successful
~ave we been at monitoring it, and hew is it monitDred?
Ms. \ytle~ I do not recall attaching one in the three years I have been
here. There may have been attendance requirements attached to other use
permits. Certainly, we have limfted other t~ings fn conditional uses that
we W!re not .ery good at monitoring. Tnis is one tnat would be toug~ to
~nitor, but we have requested it as a part of the co~ditions that were
distTi~ted at this meeting that records be kept so tnat compliance could
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be checked more readily and that a report be given of how the events
being conducted, similar to the type of data presented for the
app-lication. Tn that way, we could attempt some kind of monHor~ng
effort.
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(hajnn" Mush: There is an example in the Gamble Garden Center, which
was approved wit~ a limit or. the numbEr of special events and their size..
CQC!lldssjqner Beecham: This is a schizophrenic relationship probiem. We
have some neighbors coming in and signing pap~rs that say. this is great
and we get alGng flne and ~re i happy family. We ha~e others coming 1"
.ith a family feud that 1 hay~ never seen the likes of. That is a
problem. What we nave tD find, in order to approve this, is that the
project will not be detrimental t~ t~e neighborhood. Staff, i~ our n~
ha~dout tonight, has made a~ effort to defi!"!! conditions which would make
the project net be detr;~nta'. Some of the conditions ire perhaps
appro~r'&tel and some perhaps not. St~ff ma~es the effort of saying that
the city st3ff will aid as an observer in relations between the applicar.t
and the neighborhood. r am not sure ~f that has been done much in the
past, and it would be a good effort, but it is up to the parties 1nvol~ed
to do It.
There is a ~nefit PGi~t. you might say, to the app1icant far being a
preexisting use. The applicant was there. Two hOUSES were tnere. Others
caae and joined it. others C~ and built residences overlooking it. The
preexisting use certainly has a benefit 1" that they wtre there first.
let Me dispense with a cQ~ple of issues we have talked abo~t. On yt$~al
i~ICt. ~ opinion of what nas been proposed is that it will have a
negligible visu.l impact. It Is on • roof line that will be changed .nd
will be seen by some residences, but it does not subst~ntfally impact
their view of the bay area. From the ~ictures ~e have seen and from the
documents and examples. there is a Rinimal impact on their ability to
enjoy the v;ew. So I think visual impacts Ire low.
There has beer. a lot of talk about landscapfng. Of the two speakers
tonight, one said tbat larldscaping is peripheral to th~ hstJe, wh11e the
ether said it is a negatiating point. or something to that effect. T~it
is exactly right. The landscapIng is desIgned not to ~nefit the public
but just one residence. That is not an appropriate requirement. 1~ any
sense, to go fn an application like this. Tnere is an iapact by this
lppllcltion on the neighborhood. If there are benefits that we should
look at that might .ake this nondetrlment,l, they should benefit the
neighborhood. To hi",,'"e sometn i ng i,. here benef; tt i rig one res i dence 15-not
appropriate.
Also net appropriate, ! feel, is consideration of the effect of having the
employee housi1l9 in there, for mostly the same reasoru. --
looking It the n~bers, the application talks about adding 3,500 SQUire
fe~t for the upstairs dining room, as we1l as 900 square feet of lounge
ares. for i total of 4.400 square feet for dining and lounge.
4,400 square feet tompares, if I understand the numbers correctly in the
report, to about S,800 existing square foot. That is about a 7S percent
increase in t~is use. In one of the tables, it talks about the parking
spaces needed f~r ~ different type of ese. Except fo~ the lobby, whlCh
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seems odd to me, t~e dining and lounge use is the highest parKi~g space
requirement tyP€ of use. So in terms of parl,,;ng rt'Q',Jireme7lts, in a sense
they are getting nearly a 7; percent increase of the primary USE'. I thinK
the parking ana1yses that were done are optimistic in terms of coming up
witk i cilcuhticm of only 71 spaces mor'e. 1n practin!!~ J fHl it would
be more thar:: that. The arE!a currelltly has a parkins problem, not so mud'!
one of capacity, but of efficiency and effectiveness. It is diffitult to
get around iii the parking area and H is difficult for people who are
unfamiliar with the entrance to find it. That causes it to back up into
the street. That would be one of the primary detriments cf the
appiicatior., Staff has mentioned that should you havp. a shortfall of 20
spacp.s, cut off about 1,300 square fei!t. I do not find that to be
adequat!. unfortunately.
There have b~en comments made aba~t traffic, with ~eople looming up the
road. That is a difficulty 1 would say we have to live ~ith. lt is up to
the police Ir.d other departments to monitor traffic a~d see that they stay
on the right side of the road. The road ~as11y meets level of service
reQuirements, 50 I do not ~~e that as bein9 a constraint on what ~e are
doing here. 8\Jt] do feel that the parking ailaiysis is sign; nt:antly
Opt1Eistic. Adding 4,4~O square feet of dining spac2 will overwhelm the
parking. "rhe cl ub has cff!red to C!.It off part of its upstair! din.ing
room, .nd t~at fs a good id!a, but] do not see it as b~ing enforceable.
It 15 so.et~in9 the city requires and something the neighborhood requires,
and I do not think we could be satisfied w;t~ that as an offering of a way
to take care of it. [.ould 1 Ike to find a way to allow this to happen.
The club has a lot of good reasons fGr ~oing ft. I certainly support, as
others do. the addition of bathrooms and office arEa, etc. From the way
the club was set up, th~y missed putt1ng the dining room where it snould
~aye been. I would like to see another approach that takes care of the
parking problem. Perhaps ldding s~me space at some etner level, although
tnat would be diffioult beoause of gr.ding. I would like to find a way to
allow the club to expand, but [ thfnk this application does not permit It.
Comm1ss1o~er Glazier: This application boils down to two iS5U!S. One is
economics and the ather is intensity of use. If you look at ~ow the costs
of this million dollar addition is gOing to be shared l given the expenses
that the club is probably ~cing to incur to replace some of the lost
landscaping due to the freeze and probably soma of the i~creised ch~rges
due to the drought, tne ~~ber$ are going to have enough expense to bear
there withou.t having to bear a hug!!: chu.nk of thi s addiHonal exp!nse. So
] would conclude that the (~st of this addition will be borne by pri~ate
par-ties. If you look at a figure of $5,000 a party, that is an awful lot
of parties. I do not have the exact figure. but it is somewhere between
10 and SO pert~nt increase ov€r soae period of time. [agree this is a
tough fssue. but 1t does boil down to intensity of use. We are being
asked to increase the commercial traffic in that area anyw~ere from 10 to
50 percent. [just do not feel tomfortable with doing tnat at this
point. I certainly would be supportive of a motion to .110. the club to
add additional bathroom space and office space and renovate its facil;ty,
but 1 wo~ld have a real hard time s~pporting the current application.
COmmissioner Huber: This C1untry club started ahead af the loning, but it
is ~ow in tne OS zone district and ~urrounded by RE. TnesE are the areas
that we go very lightly in with new applications, because we want 1.t to be
open space. We do flot want it to lDok 1 H:e downtowr., for instance.
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Clearly, the tcuntry club has a right to be thEre, and with a lack of a
use permit, it can d~ virtua1ly anything that relates to a country club.
But when we look at requests for additional spa~e t~at seem to suggest
heavi~r potential outside use as oppos~d to membership use, we really nave
to go s1ow1y. My sense of what 1S happening here is s1miiar to
Comm1ssioner Glaller. There is going to have t~ be ~ncrea~ed outside use
to C(lwer eXDense and to USf! thE: facilit.y. I do not necessarOy qua!"rel
with s~body doing that, but I do not feel that this is the appropriate
place to ao it. These sorts of situati(lns between neighoors and
facilities are, it best, an uneasy marriage, if nothing ever happe~s up
there. If their parties are reduced by half and their membership by half,
there ~ill still be complaints by neighbors, because you just cannot
control a group of people when they corne up there with the best of
1ntent1ons. The little Sisters of the Poer need only have a few glass@s
of wine too much and they would make some noise; that is ar. irritant, and
it will a1ways be thus, no matter 'What we d.o. In this instance, if thE
club is interested in providir.g SDme add1tlonal square footage that allows
for a face lift, lOON! bathrooms and office spac.e, I can live witt: that,
b~t I am not convlnced that the space required is ~pprop~iate for this
area~ I am certainly n~t convinced that you can get awey with the parking
as suggested. The findings that ha" been distributed tonight that
suggest a means of approvil have to(l many conditions. I was an Dld
neighborhood activist, and I did not like anything that said you co~ld
haye 10 or 5D or 300 people j because you cannot count. It forces the
frustrated indivlduals s~rrounding the area to complain all the tlme. I
don't thfnk that 1s really appropriate in this situation. I suppose there
are ways to work with it, but what [ see here does n~t satisfy me. I
would be wIllIng to let the club come bock with , .. ething that speaks more
to usage by their club meEbtrs, 's opposed to what appears to be going
outside of the membership. So unless there were some change madt, I will
s~port the dec1sfon of the zoning administrator.
Chairman Marsh: [will echo some of the comments already made.
Co.missioner Beecham nated that he would lik~ to see much Df this proposal
to be enacted in the long term .. I would agree with that. In the long
tera, the club could get much of what it wants, but ~ need to take this
process in stages, and adapt to change, to update) to refine the
fac~11ties. At this p(lint, it sounds to me as though the club is fn a
transition stage. We have establisheti that it has a bad rEcord with many,
if net all of 1tS neighbors. The club manager, Ms. Nelson, noted that tne
club has been in a state of reorganization ~;th its management. It sounds
like Its board is in a state of some flux. and as ~e noted, we do not have
any board members present tonight. That is a matter of great concern to
ae, because the only assurances we havt in terms of long-term management
rests with that b~ard of directors. EmpToyees and managers are
transitional folks, and are ~ere today but may not be here tomorrow. I do
not feel we ca"n strike a bargain that depends upon an agreement that h
expressed by those indiyiduals. We have to have board mtmbers present.
On t~e otner hand, if we lea~e t~1$ project alone, J do nat think we ~ave
any l5s~rances that any of the improvements we would like to se! made up
tnere will be made at all. The neighbors could be left in a, sad.
5it~ation is they are today, and that is not a good outcome, either.
So I would propose lhat we cut the baby in half. I thInk it is reasonable
to allow tne club tc do t~e expansion of its bathrcoms, its storage space
and its offices, as proposed for tne bottom floor. If we agree t~ do
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that, we will want to attach some conditions in terms of landscaping ar.d
perhaps neighborhood meetings. I lriOllld then encourzge the club to work
within the n~xt year t<l implement those <:hange:;~ to get iI much better
re~crd thlt we can look at in terms of your relationship with the
np.1ghbors, and if th1n95 go lriell and continue O~ the pat~ that you seem to
be on right now? it is entirely feasible that within a couple of years,
you cou1d come back and have neighborhood suppcrt for a different Idnd of
expansion. Right now, we have flO record to Il'jove on to alTo~ ttJe full
breadth of your e.pansion. Wit~out that, we cannot allow it. It is
possible that if there is not only 900d intentions but go~d actions in the
future, we might feel differently.
MOTION: Commiss'o~er Beecham: I mov~ that the planni~g comm~ssi~n
recomnend to the C1ty council that the~ uphold the dec!sion of the zoning
a~m1nistrator. 1 would, however. like t~ change Finding '2 of the
February 22 staff repo~t, Page 5, and delete, as you look thro~gh it.
there is I sentence beginning -Title lB ... • Delete that sentence and
beyond it, s~ that Finding 12 ends with the sentence -The ~istory of
complaints by surrounding property owners d!monstTate~ an inabil ity of the
club to ~nitor these spe~ial events to be compati~le with the
~eighborhood uses~· The rea50n for deleting that is because I do not
belfeve there is any relationship between this issue and the employees and
resident population at the (lijb.
Chlirman Marsb: If we wish to entertain the possibility of allcwing some
of this expansion. as some of us have said, is tne appropriate action for
us to try an~ rewrite t~is, or should we t~rn it down and have the
applicant return?
Ms. lytle: It .oold be prudent to consult with the applicant. My
understanding is t~at the project is not viable unless the dinfng room
expansion is included. That is the point of the project. I do not know
tnat you are doing tnem a great favor by allowing the lower floor
approval. It may be easier for thea just to exhaust their administrative
rights nere and take the d~nial on to the council. You could ask the
representative W~D is present tonight about that.
Ms. Nelson: If we go a~ead with the lower level rest rooms and the-office
space. [ would love it. as [ ~ork 1" th~ offices~ but the reality is that
the upstiirs is what the membership is in support of. They were Took1ng
for membership enhlncesent of use. [will t~ke it back to the board and
discuss it. but I do nat rea11y think it relates to the purpose.
Cha'jrqtan fl!arsh: 1hen it sounds like we should vote on the findings and
conditiDns in the staff report. is modified. We can go on reeord as
noting for the cjty ~ouncil that t~e majority of this cOQrnission would
support an option that allowed expansion on the first floor~
C~i5sioner Beecham: I would agree with that~
S~COND: By Commis5ioner (hristensen~
("aiman Marsh~ Is thtlre any further discussion on this motion? We na'ie
a IIOtion to re(onmend to the cHy COURCn that it uphold the detision of
the zonfng administrator and deny the conditional use penmit for the
proposed expansion. Findings as indicated. with a change in Finding 12.
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Comlfssioner l1ut-er; I know GordCln JitcCl intock, as r have been iflvol ved in
a lot of litigatjon with him. I talked to him today on ~is mobile
telepJ~one as. hE: was on h~s Wl:Y to this conference ... hich ev~ryone
anttcipat~d would last about 18 ho~rs. So I suspect he is 5tf11 at the
courthouse. Ot~erwise, he would havE been here.
HCTIQN PASSES: ch.lnnan Mars,: All those in favor, say Ay.? All
opposed? That passes unanilDOus1y on a \lote of 6-0, w"l th Conmi ssioner
Hirsch absent.
Chairaan Marsh: I would like to get iil consensus regarding the first floor
expansion p~ss;b;lity for recomw~ndation to the ccuncil. It appear~ to be
unanimous that the commission would agree, as wel1, that a different
configuration of expans10n would ~ acceptable. That a~sumes that various
conditions fur landscaping and parking req~ir~nts would be attached.
Mr. G1Jltland: This is scheduled for the city council on March 18.
AGENOA ITEM 4 Report and recomm.ndations from the Tuwer W.11 Site
(oomittee.
Chairmen Marsh: Are there comments from staff or commissfoners?
&DmliJsioner Huber: I thought this report was fantastic In the way it ~jS
laid Dot.
~.i ... n Marsh: J would echo that. I thought it ~os • outstanding job.
I hav. a <Dupl. of ... 11 chang... In Item 5(.), [ woold 1ik. to add after
·c~11d care. SRO hOUi1ng, low-income fa~ily h9ys~ng, etc,-so that we get
~ome Dther opt1ons in there.
Also und.r 5(d) I wo,ld 1ik. to add 'Use and d.sign compatibility with the
adjacent neighborhoods, -based on our earl ier item tonighL ] ""oIJ1d 1 ite
this item to b. SIt) and move (c) down to Sed). The order does suggest
priority.
Under 8(b), where it says, -A written destription ~f:-I would like to
reorder the items that follow, for the same reason. First t wDuld like
-How the project vill satisfy a p~blic beneflt or need;-second, -How the
project will be compatib1. with the adjacent residenti.1 n.ighborhood .•. ·;
third, "the numbel"' ap)d t,YJH!.5 of reSidential ~nits. if i.nYi-and fourth,
What i. the plannod disposition of tne prup.rty ... •
Under 9(d). i would like that to be the last item. as 9(e).
] ae making these comments because I feel that since this neighborhood
i.cco.aodates a lot of different pub1fc needs, it 1$ more and more
incumbent upon us to make sure the neighborhood is ccnsidere4 in all
future application •.
~: Commissioner Glazier: I move approval of the report.
~: 8y commissioner Huber.
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Beard Members Present:
Thursday, July 20, 1989
8:00 A.M.
Ch,ic Center
250 Hamilton Avenue
Council Conference Room
Palo Altc, Catifomia
Aino cia Rosa, Michael Lyzwa,
Jon Scbink, and Shirley Wilson
(Note: Aino cia Rosa left the Cleetillg and returned later; she 'Il/as not
present for Items IL11 th.rQugh 11.14.)
Board Members Absent: Bob Evans
(In the absence of Chairperson E.vans, Vice-Chairperson Sehink cilaiTed
the meeting.)
Staff Present: GHIiland, Haley, Jansen, Lytle. and Warheit
Shirley Wilson abstaiultd from Jtem n.10.
B. APPROVAL OF MIN'JTES
The meeting: m!nutes of June lS, 1989 were APPROVED, 4-0, as ... ritt~n..
c. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Members of the-pubHc may .speak to L'"1}' topic within Architectural Review
Board (ARB] ju:isdiction that is not list~ as an Agenda item ..
None
D. AGENDA ITEMS
APPROVALS: The Atchitectural Review Board (ARB} decision on thEe design
of the project is a recommendation to the Director of Planning and Community
Bn~ronment (!be Director). who makes the final decision. Unless otherwise
stated by the ARB or the Director, project approvals generally incorporate
Project Review Committee conditions as mailed to the applicants and staff
conditions as recommended in the 1nfolmi:tt~on Memorancfums..
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CHANGES: Ar..y change to an applo~ed design plan muSt be rest.:.bmitted to
the City for 3.pp~o ... al. R~suJ:;mittal of a project, may also be necessary if
changes ars mandated as a result or complying with Public Works/Engineering
or other City de~[tment lequirements! or a.ny other applicable code or
ordinance requirements.
APPEALS: All 'l'Isjcr a.nd minor project appro .... ais are subjeCl to an appeal
period, v.'bich allows fo! the applicant or members of tbe pcblic to file an
appeal from tbe decision of the Director on the project. The appeal period
to! major projects (dl!":signared with all asterisk It.,,) is eleven O:1J working
days following the date of the ARB's recommendation on the project. The
appeal period for minor projects is se .... en (7) working days foUowing tbe date
of tbe ARB's recommendation on the project. Appeals of minor site and design
and minor wne changes are subject to Chapter 18.93 of the Pa.lo Alto Municipal
Code. Planning staff should ~ contacted for flJnher Information regarding
appeals and appeal procedures.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS: All major projects not identified by an EIA
number ha'!le been determined to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA review.
All minor projects have been determined to be CategoricaJiy E.xempt from
CEQA review.
TIME UMIT: Project BpprovaJ is valid for one (l) year from the original
date" of BpprCival except for phased projects for which", specific development
.schedt.tle~ Dot to exceed fi.ve (S) rears from the original date of approval,
may be approved. The time period for a project including a phased project
may, upon appliea.tion j be extended once by the Director lor 8.lI additiona! year.
EXPIRATION: In !the-e¥ent the building permit for & project is not 5eC1Jred
within the above specified time Jimits, the approval of me project will expire
&nd be of no further force or effect.
A!1Y interested peISOD ..Play appear and be beard on these items.
I. CONSENT CALENDAR
1.
Items to be approved as a group withffilt debate unless discussion is fE-quested
by the Board. public~ !1pplican[ or Staff.
Items m.e.y be placed on the Consent Calendar up to 72 hours in advanc:e of
the meedn£:.
'U LA\'NE COURT
F riUik M ulldWii
89-ARB-170
751 Working ,Drawings for Approved Six-unit Townhouse Project
~t the r-equ~ nf .Aino da Rosa., this item was discussed as a re('.1Iu agenda
Item for c1anfieauon of colors. .
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Quality Management District in order to comply \/,'ith all applicable Air
Liistrict regulations including obtaining all necessary permits.
8. Prior to iss\Jsnce of a Buildilng Permit l evidence in the form of written
documentation from the RWQCB, thac Hewl~tt Packard bru; performed all
soils tests and appropriate additional remediation, and that site redevelopment
will not adverse[y affect ongoing and (ut\Jre clean-up activities, sbaH be
submLtted and app.o .... ed by the City of Pato Alto.
9~ The location of any additional monitor~ng a.'1d/or extract!on wells and
ptotection of existing .and future wells dUrlng construction acti'Jities sball
also be app[o~d by RWQCB prior to issuance of any building permits, o.
at the discretion of RWQCB and City Planning Staff, prior to approval of
the final landscape plan..
:3000 ALEXIS DRJVE
pilo Alto 1-IlIG corr &:
Country Ch;b, Inc.
Replace Poles end NE'tting on Driving Range
89-ARB-147
89-D-19
The following people expI'!Ssed their concems about this application during
public comment! 1) Bob and Sylvia Hcchscheid, 2957 Alexis Drive, P.A.,
2) Sandra Nadim, 2927 Alexis Orhre, Palo Alto, 3) SU!l.ny Kaplan, 3017
Country Ciub Court, Palo Alto, 4) Rick Johnson, 3110 Bandera., Palo Alto,
S) &rbala DeerJop, 2944 Alexis Drive. Palo Alto, and 6) Jan l'erry, 925
Lautel Glen, Palo Alto. Those asp&.ts of conce·n included the height of the
po)es, visual impact against the sky ftom pIi1l8te residences, location of
the driving lange, safety and traffic ptoblems, balls ending up on Alexis
Drive, and lack (If &deqUlllt~ landscaping. One person objected to thE
thickness of the poies as well as the height; moot objected to the height
and not the thickrlefS..
Two other persons. wrote letters explessing similar concerns and opposition
to the poles: 1} Jooeph D. Russo, 3122 Bandera Drive, ?ale Alto, and
2) Judy Miller, 2979 A~exis Drive, Palo Alto.
After comments and dU;cussion, the Board CONTINUED, 4-0, this item to
give applicant further time to reevaluate safety issues, to host a neighborbood
meeting j to explain what section of the golf course is to be dosed down
and to h--...e.r neighbor's cornrnents, to develop adequate landscape screening
along Alexis Driv.!, and to ccnsider tbe use iJf wcod poles of 9 -12. "inch
thickness. The Board would like to see samples of netting next time, and
indica~ed that they wc-uld consider supporting the 20 incb wide pores
(Ieduced to a 25 fOOl height) if they are ~ndscaped and screened. Mr.
Sch.ink indicated that one or twO ARB members might be able to attend'
th~ neighborhood meeting.
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A. ROLL CALL
Board Members Present:
Board Members Absent:
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Thursday, December 21, 1989
8:00 A.M.
civic Center
250 Hamilton Avenue
Council conference Room
Palo Alto, California
Aino daRosa, Bob Evans.
Michael Lyzva, Jon Schink,
and shirley Wi~son
None
Note: Michael Lyz~a arrived late and was not present for
Items I~1 anQ I.2 (Consent Calendar).
Michael Lyzwa and Bob Evans left the meetinq prior to
adjournment. Mr. Evans was not present for Items II.S and
rr.lo. Hr. Lyzwa was not present for ltem II.S, Which had
been moved to last position on the meeting agenda.
Aino da~osa abstained from Item 11.7 because she had ~een
unable to visit the site.
staff Pres4!nt: Gilliland, H~leYI and Warheit
B. il,PPROVAL OF ~TNUTES
Approval postponed to the next meeting of January 4, 1990.
DUe to illness the final copies were not ready for review
for two meetings r for the special meeting of December 5,
1989 and Eor the regular ~e@ting of December 7, 1989.
c. ORAL COl'{MTJNICAIIONS
None
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D. AGENDA I'rEM'=
1o.?PROVALS: The Ar-chitectur-al Review Boar-a (ARB) decision
on the design of the project is a recommendation to the
Director of Planning and co~_munity EnvirorJr'.ent (the Direc
tor), who makes the final decision. Unless otherwise
stated hy the ARB or the Director, project approvals
generally incorporate Project Review committee conditions
a~ recommended in the Information Memorandums.
CHANGES; Any change to an approved design plan must be
resubmitted to the city for ~pproval. Resubmittal of a
project may also be necessary it chanqes are mandated as a
result of compJ.yinq ·,.,ith PUblic Works/Enqineerinq or other
city department requirements, or any other ~pplicable code
or ordinance requirements.
APPEALS: All major and minor project approvals are subject
to an appeal pe~iod, ~hich allo~s for the applicant or
members of the public to file an appeal from the decision
of the Director on the project4 The appeal period for
major projects (designated wit~ an asterisk ~ •• ) is eleven
(11) working days following the date of the ARBTs recommen
dation on the project. The appeal period for minor
projects is seven (7) working days follo~ing the date of
the ARB's recolmDendation on the pr-oject4 Appeals of minor
site and design and minor zone changes are subject to
Chapter 18.93 of the Palo ~to Municipal Code~ PI arilling
staff should be contacted for further information regarding
appeals and appeal p~ocedures.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS: All major projects not identified
by ~n EIA number have been determined to be categorically
Exe.-;;.pt from CEQA review. All minor projects have been
det~rmin~d to be Categorically Exempt from CEQA revlew4
TIME LIMIT; Project approval is valid for one (1) year
from the oriqinal date of approval except for phased
project~ for which a specific development 6chedule, not to
exceed five (5) years from the original date of appro .... al,
may be approved~ The time period for a project including a
phased project may, upon application~ be extended once by
the Director for an additional year~
EXPIRATION: In the event the building permit ~or a project
is not secured within the above specified time limits, the
approval ~r the project will expire and De of no further
force or effect.
Any interested person ~ay appear and be heard on these
items.
CONSENT CALENDAR
It~ to be approved as a group without debate unless
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The applicant arrived and ~as pr~sent ter the preli~inary
revieW'.
Since this was the SECOND PRELIMINARY REVIEW, ther~ was no
fermal action taKen. The Board offered the applican~ the
fol1o~ing comments:
Sh'; rlev Wi) son
Not.ing that the applicant had: brought the Board something
different from the plans in the packet I Chairperson Wilson
stated that she appreciated the fresh start. She said that
El camino Real needs a stron9 presence. In the design, Ms.
wilson said the applicant might want to t~ka into consider
ation tha"t this :might turn retail on the ground floor in
the future. She noted that some things are already
happening with the architecture that might make it
adaptable to retail in the future.
Jon Schink
Mr. Schink liked the development direction a lot and noted
that the forms help relate to the Hamlet and Yuki-sushi.
This design helps pull the neighborhood together as a
whole. Mr. Schink thought the ~entry structure" shoUld be
stronger, and he s~qested, that the 8 foot trellis struc
ture could be larger and could even frame the entrance for
a ftview in-or bQ used to support siqnage. Continuinq, Mr.
Schink ~as concerned about exposure of mechanical equip
ment~ He also thought that the detail of the small jog in
the roof (on the right), the roof angles and the parapets
at the ends need to be simplified and/or explained. He
caution~d the architect not to let the design unravel at
the ends.
Ms. daRosa voiced concern about the rear landscape space
and the lack of pedestri2n friendly landscaping for the El
Ca=ino Way side. She thought the entrances and exits need
more study to develop cohesiveness in eleva~ions. She did
not want the rear door to empty right into the parking lot
without any buffer. consioer clustering and qrouping trees
for effect. Ms. daRosa thought landscaping is very impor
tant for the design and for the success of the project.
The Board agreed that appliccmt c0I.11d come hack for tinal
review next time, incorporating more detail and a little
more design development.
3000 A~lCIS DRIYI;
Palo ~to Hills Golf and
country Club
89-ARB-293
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SECOND PRELIMINARY' REVIEW o~ 8 1 400 square-foot dining room
addition to existif'1g facil i t:r' and landscape improvements to
existing parking lot
It is noted that for final review this project will be a
major site and design rpvjew requiring Planning Commission,
ARB and City Council approval, as ~ell as an amende~ Condi
tional Use Permit. No review or plan check for confor.mance
with zoning 01.' appli-cable codes has yet been made on this
project. The project was reviewed by the ARB on a prelimi
nary basi~ at the July 20, 1989 meeting.
Barbara Purkoff, a nearby neighbor to the Club, voiced
concern d\lring public comment about night skylight
reflection; she was concerned that a constant glow might be
disturbinq at. night to residents "ho live above thl! Club.
(The applicant responded that ~he skylights ~ould have a
very soft gloW" b(:!cause they have or.ly about 8 to 17% light
transmittance. )
No formal action was taken since this was a preliminary
review; Board members made the folloving comments regarding
the progress of the design but they urged the city to hold
the Vse Permit public meeting at the site. R2presentatives
of the Club said they would be happy to have the meeting at
the Club. Mr. Schink emphasized the neea for the ARB to
hear the ~hole picture that comes out in the public
process. He said the architecture is going to be adjusted
to meet the requirements of the neighborhood.
Aina d~Ro6a stated that she has no major probl~s with the
design at this point, but that she is always concerned
about skylights and neighbors because of ~~e glow at night
bothering the neighbors.
Jon Schink felt comfortable with ~hat was before the Board
today, but said he would reserv~ detailed ccmments until
aEter the Board hears the results of the use permit public
hearing. He'thought it important to hold the hearing up at
the site if possible for a better turnout early in ~e
process~
Mieha~l Lyzwa called the materials honest and noble. He
said it is important for applicant to supply details of how
the mechanical equipment is going to be handled. He noted
that the handicap parking in front is on the othe~ sioe of
the ariveway, which may b~ illegal and could pose a safety
problem even if not illegal. On the whole Mr. Ly~wa felt
the project is headed in the right direction, and that the
detailing and colors described today have a great deal of
::aerit.
~8ns said that a study model, including roof treat-
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mp.nt~ would be very useful to help neighbors understand hOi.:
thi$ is going to look. Qther~ise; Mr. Evans stated that he
thinks the design~ use of materials and colors is ~Jite
befitting the area. He roentioned later that the restcoom
'Wall reads from above as a false '.,:all and needs to .be
designed to make it feel more like building volume than
wall.
Shirlev wilson apprecizted the applicant's response to
previous comments and though~ the project is coming along
nicely. She di.d think. the wall around the restrooms on the
left needs some detailing attention because it could have a
very deadly effect; could be improved with clever use of
materials and kept very simple, too. Ms. Wilson preferred
that the dining room ~indows be very rich and elegant,
particularly at the columns; maybe even have the 'Windows
popping out a little to provide detail and to sca:e dining
rOOIll.
10.~
Alma Plaza
89-ARB-285
PRELIMINARY REVIEW of demolition of existing gas station
and construction of 6,300 square-foot retail building and
landscape improvements to existing parking lot
It is noted that this application will be considered as a
major Planned COIlUnuliity zone change and will require con
ceptual approval by ths Planning Commission, Architectural
Review Board design approval, final Planning commission
approval and City Council approval. This projec~ has not
been reviewed for compliar.ce with Zoning and other regula
t,ions.
Bob Evans had left the meeting and ~as not present for this
item.
No formal action was taken since this was a preliminary
review, and Board members l!tade comments as noted below~
Michael Lyzwa noted that removing a gas station conf~onts
the applicant with monumental problems regarding clean up
of wastes and with neighbors concerned about impact hazar
dous or toxic waste. Regarding comments, he observed that
the existing center is chaotic and confusing and outdated J
and a new building needs a blend of colors and materials
and signaga in a modern interpretation of existing
materials. This application needs to carry through and
enhance, pe~haps with a new master signage program for the
entire shopping center. Mr. Lyzwa was concerned about the
poor desiqn of the parking lot and wanted solutions to
that, including strong landscaping theme, perhaps with
paving materials, too. He stressed the need for a logical
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MINUTES Thursday, October 21, 1993
8:00 All
A. ROll CAll
(ouncil COrlfer-eroce Room
250 HOl_mi lton A\'enu~
Pa10 Alto~ Cal1fornia
Board Members Present: ThDmas His€
Juliil Maser
Ainc-Vieira-da-Rosa
Shirley Wilson
8Gard Members Absent: Cheryl Piha
Staff Members Present: J1m Gilliland
Nancy lytle (it.m 1.1)
lori Topl.y (item 1.ll
The Board ex.pressed t,~~ir personal and prafessir;nal appreciation to I-",ixe
lyzwa for his service to the Board.
B. APPROVAl. OF ~IN!lTES OF OCTOBER 7. 19~3
APPROVED as presented, '3-0-1-1. Hise abstained) Pina absent}.
C. ORAL COM!M!ICAT!1lIIS
Non'!:
D. AGENDA !TOO
APPROVAlS: The Architectural Rel/;ew Soara' {.A.RB} de-cision on the design
of the project is a recorriJiendatiofi to the Di rector cf Pl anning and
(olTlTlunity Environment (the Director). who makes the final decisi.,n.
Unless otherwise stated by the ARB or the Director, ?roject approvals
IncorpDr~te Project Review C~~itte~ conditions is mailed to the
applicants and staff conditions is recorrrnended in the Information
.Memorandums.
CHANGES: Any change to an approved design plan roust be resubmitted to
the City for approval. Resu~~;ttal of a project may be necessary if
changes are mandated as a result {)f complY'ing with other City -
department requirements, or any other applfcable codes, or ordinance
requirements or other regu1atory 1ger.cies.
APPEALS: All major and minor proj~ct approvals are subject to an appeal
period, ~hjch allows for the applicant or members of the public to file
an appeal from the dec;s"ion of the Director on the project. The a~peal
period for major projects (designated ~ith an asterisk .~.) is e1even
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APPEALS: All major and minur project approvals ~re subject to an ~ppeal
period, which allo~s for the applica~t or members of the public to fl1~
an appeal from the decision of tne Director on the project. The appeal
period for major projects (designated -with an asterisk "*") is eleven
(ll) ","ork.ing days following the date of the ~.RBIS reco::nmendation on the
projett. The appeal period for minor projects 1S seven (7J working days
following the date of the ARB's reco~endatior. on the project. The open
period for a minor project is seven working days following the date of
ARB's recommendation. Appeals of minor site and design and minor zone
~hanges are subject to Chapter 18.93 of the Palo Alto Municipa1 Code.
If you wish to appeai zny item on this agenda, contact the Planning
Division {329-2441} regarding time and fee. If you challenge this lar.d
use decision in court, you may be limited to raising only those issues
you or someone e1se raised at the public hearing described in t~is
notice, or in written correspon~ence delivered to the City of Palo Alto
at or prior to, the public hearif)g.
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS: All major projects not identified by an ErA file
number foll(lwir,g the proje-ct address have heen de:tenr.ined t() be
Categorically Exempt from CEQA re,le •. All min,r projects ha,e been
determined to be C.tegoric.lly Exempt from CEQA review.
TIME LIMIT: Project approv.l ls v.lid for one(l) year from the origin.l
date of apprQval~ The time period for a project may, upon applicati~n,
be extended once by the Director for an additional year.
EXPIRATION: In the eyent the buildin~ permit for. project is not
secured wit~in the above specified time limits, the approval of the
project will expire and be Df no further force and effect.
I. ClJI!SOO CAlENDAR
Items to be apprDved as a group without debate unl~ss discussion is
requested by the Board, public applicant gr staff.
This list is not necessarily complete, as it~ms may be placed on the
Consent Calendar up to 72 h~urs in .d~Gnce of the meeting.
1. 3412 Ross Road
YMC~
93-ARB·51
Placement and landscape screening of back flow preventers and_p.~d
mou~t transformer per ARB approval conditions.
PROJECT REPRESENTATIVES: Barry Taylor, YMCA of Mid·Peninsul., stated
th.at they will util ize the previously approved ARB sound wali ctllor
descTibed as rose or terra cotta, and that YlneS will be placed on the
south wall.
Eddy Chin, archltect, expl,lned the landscape propos.l .
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2. 3000 Alexis Drive 9l-ARB-190
Palo Alto Hills Golf Course & Country Club
Pr~liminary rev1ew of renovation and ex~ans10n of existing
clubkouse with parking lot restriping and expansl0n.
PROJECT RE~RESENTAHVES: Linda Ludden, Carrasco & Assa<:iates, presented
the proposal.
PUBLIC TEST1MONY: Sal Giovannotto, 3090 Alexis Drive, spoke in
opposition to He project ,.ith concerns for the ille, the obstruction of
Views, traffic impacts and the height.
Don Klages, 281 University, Palo Alto Hills Club, spoke in favor of the
project and the changes in the design to respect neighbors.
Jan Terry, 915 laurel Glen, spoke in support of the Club being able to
update and improve their property ~nd the hope for a cooPerative effort.
Barbara Oeerkop, 2944 Alexis Drive, spoKe in regards to the project and
her concerns as a rEsident below the project.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD: As a preliminary reviow, the Board took no
formal action, though ~ade the fcllQ~ng comments:
• General supPGrt for what is being proposed
the inter;~r circulation and improvements.
ex;stin~ architecture and expand on it.
and t~e thought behind
Extend character of
• The applicant should work with the neighbors te f(;tm;i renovate
and expand the facility taking into acco~nt the r~uctl~n of
cbstructed ~iews. Balloons shall be displayed to show the extent
of the new buildl~g and notify neighbors and the ARB of when in
plaCE so that it can ~e view~d frGm t~e affected neighbors.
• Improve the roof appearance, show mechanical systems and consid'2T"
screening.
• The ARB has a concerD with night light, particularly
transom/clerestory lighting.
• Restudy color and material samples. Study reflectivitiy of all
surfaces not just windows. En~ourage sandstone, not just ~tucco.
Need colors and mater~als at next presentation.
•
B: \afn1021 .ccrr
driveway
landscaping and sigr.age to be considered
and working with neighbor£ and tne City.
to improvi71g
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• Gab'le roof should be studied further, otr.€r optio~;; exist that
c.ould fit better with the arl.:-hitectiJre and. If!ssen the impact.
Roof 1ine appears thin and rounded g1ass with a peaked roof is a
difficult transition. P'1d~e skylight mignt work better than
clerestory.
• Intimacy of interior concept does Mt fit "itM program of high
ceilings. It. \)fi!Jhti'!fl PI"ail"ie sto,le ela...: be a~~;e~J'iilte.
J I. REGUlAR ASElIDA
3. 300 Hamilton Avenue 93-AR8-J6!
3n~ ~amilton Associates
New paint colors fer existing building.
PROJECT REPRESENTATIVES: Chop Keen.n, 700 Em.rson, introduced the
project.
Richard £lmore, designer, presented the revised color proposal.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY: None
AlI.ClilTECTURAL REVIElI BOARD: APPROVtD (4-0-1-0, Pih. absent), with thE
following condition:
1. That t~e colors be brought closer together in bue and to reduce
the contrast. Co1ar sampl~s to he painted on t~e b~itdin9 in a
sunlit CGfner area. The Board wi11 review the on-site colors with
final ap.proval to be on Hc.ve.rnber 4, 1993 ARB consent calendar.
1I.II£GUlAR A600A
4. 1661 Page ~ill Road 93·ARB·198
Keenan Lovewell Company
Place!I1ent of two monument signs.
PROJECT REPRESENTATIVES: John Lovewell, Keenan-Lovewe!! Ventures,
presented the prDposal.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY: Hone
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD: CONTINUED (4-0-1-0, Piha absent), with
general SUPP01-t for the concept wi ttl 1etters to-be in one font, the
phrase -Techno:ogy rntegration Center-to be deleted and ~ ~t~
fJ\9Jll#.l~l"m, detii1ing of the design .nd materi.,s. The Board apprDved
t'he';nc.1usior, of tbree identities. The distinction was Ili.de b€tween
this propos.l .nd S1go .t ISO! Page Mill Hill In that the 1601 Page Mill
Hill sign bad already secured a sign exception and the sign proportions
were significantly different.
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HONORABLE CITY COUNCil
Pll. Alto, Collfornl.
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Appeal of the Zoning ~\nlstr.tor's Oenl.l of the Condition.'
Use Pennlt to .11ow on 8,41S·.quare·foot First-and Secood-Story
Add1tlgn to an [xisting CgqntrV Club
~emb.ro of the Council:
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T~ applfcant prD~Dses to add 8,418 squart feet of first-and second·f1oor
o~. to the ."otl'9 facilitle, it the ,.1. Alto Golf and Country Club. The
additions are far e~pand1ng the Me.bers Dining Room, and for addin; blthrD~$,
office are. and storog •• t the first floor. The project I, proposed to
Include restrlplng Ind landscaping the plr\lng lot to provide addItional
parkfng spaces, however, not the entire number required by ordinance for t~e
~ropoled 1ncremental 1nereise fn floor lrel. The 2onf"9 A~lnfstrltor dented
the coo4llloo.l use permit for the expansion, citing the Inability to .. k. the
requl~ findfngs due to objections, COMPlaints and nuisance reports received
from neighbors or the property during the tl ... fr ... for thl. ap·plltatlon and
for severil years pr1or~ FurthenlOre, the app11clnt was unw1111ng to iccept I
pr.~lb\tIDn of specl.l events .s • condition of tho u,e permit. The
applicants have appe.led the deciSion.
PL~NING COMMISSION RtCOMMEHOATION
At their .... llng of February 21, 1!!1, the Pl.nnlng Coomisslon conducted I
public hearing to consider t~e .ppe.l of the Zoning AdDlnlstr.tor's decision.
The Pl.nn1ng Co.mission adopted I .atien. wnich _as approved 6nan1aovsly. to
uphold the declolon of the Zoning ~;ni.tr.tor, Nith • modification to
Finding 2. The portion of FIndIng 2 that •• s strlc'.n was the i.nguogo
ref.~nclng Section 18.71.060, which requires thtt the resident popu'atlon
approxl •• te that wh!," would re,ult fro. 0 prInCipal pe.-flted •••• The
Cooalsslon found that the employ •• housing, and Its I~.ct on the adjacent
neighbor. were not related to the app11cit1on in question.
The Ccm.ission also rooted t~at the~ would reco.mend apprOYi' of idd1tfo~s tc
the ground floor of the building; however, the applicant's representative
reported to the CCm.ls51oners at the meeting that tbe priaar~ purpose of the
e.ponslon WIS the addition to the Member. Dining Ro~ •• nd that the project
would not proceed wIthout SOMe exponslon to that member «c;lity.
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I. The proposfd use at the proposed loc.tt~n w111 be detrImental to
property or lepro ..... !s In tho vicinIty .nd will be detrlment.l t. the
ganlral welfare And public cQn~enience, in tnat ,t will al1cw for an
Ixpi"s.ion of the existing use, whitt. h currently doc~nted by
neighenring residents, to be I nuisance durini the times ~hen t~e club
1s rented for spectal .~tnts. D~rfng these special ev@nts,
IpproxI .. tely onCI I .. nt~, overflow p,rklng ha. been .n~ to restrict
t~. width of Alexis Crive, I ccrv1ng road constructed to stindards
con.i,t.nt .lth the OS zen. dl.trlct. The rOld Ind the .ntrante to tht
Club do not conveniently h,ndl. the .DOunt •• d typ~ of Ictivity tn,I the
,vents generate and have for .any years ,.used CQnc!rn b, the
s~rroundi~ neighborhood, to which th~$1 responsible for the (lub haye
been unoble to respond effettl.ely.
2. The p'l"Oposed use liill nDt be located and ecr.ducte<! in I aar,ner i~ accord
with Ih. P.l. Alto Compr.h.n.'.~ Plan 'nd the purpos.s of Till. 18 of
the P&10 Alto Municipal Code, In th.t the flr,l gool of the Housing
Ele~fit is to protect the charlcter and q~alttils of .x1st1~g lingl,·
fa.11y residential neighbDrhoods. While tne use perm1t could be
conditioned suth th.t the intensity of u •• not be permitted to Intre •••
• bove current levels, th! co~~itfcns would relit. tD Internal operations
on weekends Ind 1~ the Iv'ni~s, whe~ and where ~t is ieprlct1cIl to
enforce and monItor c.-pli,nte. Th. applltant is unwilling to occept •
condition prohibiting the renting of tho focillt, for specl.l events.
The history of coopl.lnt, ty ,urroundlng property owners demonstrates ••
Inobillty of the Club to DOnltor th •• o spetl.l eyents to be ca.p.Ilbl.
with the neighborIng uses.
Respectfully 'UDoltted, JLu.~ ./-
KENNETH R. SCHREIBER
Director of Planning .~d
C-oamuni tl Env;ronrDent
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Minute, of the fe"",ar, 27, jg91 Phnnlng CDIII\lssion .. alln9
Recommended fjndtngs and (on4itiQns far ap~roYllt shuu1d the
City Council approve the appeal .nd condition.l use
po""it
, l" ,., PlaMlng C..,lulon Staff Report datod feb",ar, 22, 1991
}-( (!1inut., of tho Zoning Adoinl.tratGr h .. rin~ of '. ? Decetaber 6, 1990
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~Minutes of the ArcMtectur&1 R.vi .... Soard frOll Jul, 20 and
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Negatl •• Detlaratlon
letter of Ap~ea' dated December 31, 1990
Doti,lon of tn. Zonl"9 Adalnl,trato. dated December 20, 1990
Applicltlon mater,"l, and addendum., Incloding tne vl~
Inllysts and traffic styd)
File C.rr •• ponde~.
eo: lyn "01.0., P.l. ~lt. Hill. Golf Ind Country Club, 3000 Ale';s Drive '"'0 Alto, CA 90304
S. Saperstein, 3089 Country Club Ct, P.l. Alt., CA 943~4
Hugh ~nodl Spencer and Assotllt.S, 100 Hign Street, P.lo Alto, CA
94301
Gordon MtCljntot~, 1400 F.shlon Island Blvd., Suite 800, Sin Mateo,
CA 94404 •
RUSSI" D.y~'. Wire and fre1dr1~ht 400 H~11ton Ave., Pll0 Alto. CA
94301 •
S. Jerri' Schwartzman Ind S.ny. Kapl.n, 3071 Country Clu~ Ct.,
P.lo Alto, CA 94304
Sal Glovlnnotto, 3090 Allxl. Drive, ,,1. Alte. CA 94304
E. A. Walker, 945 laurel Glen Dr;ve. PI'O Alt., CA 94304
Careen Scott. 3181 Al •• I. Drive, '"10 Alto, CA 94304
Deborah Heisel. 3132 Ale.', Drive ,,1. Alto, CA 94304
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fINDINGS
RECOMKENOED FINDINGS ~D CONDITIONS FOR APPROVAL
Of THE CO~j)1T10HAt USE PERMIT
fOR 3000 ALEXIS DRIVE
1. The proposed U$~ at tne: prcj)t"Jud locat1<:1n w;'l1 riot be -detrimental cr
tnju:riaus to property Dr 1mpro'Jements in the vtcioity. and w11 ~ not be
d'tr1~r.tal t~ t~e puclfc health, safety, general w!lfare or convenience.
in th.t the project .s conditioned will supply oIl increment.lly required
parking on-sHe, and impro\le the access .site distance fo ... the main
driveway. f"f!ducfng the potenthl fer ac.cidents caused by poor drher
visibility. Specl.1 events ,ttendEd by 300 or m<>r. people _lIl be lfm;tec
to a per yearj tnh will effecti\'ely reduc.e the number of 1 ar!3'e events,
~htch tend to eXCEed the r!s~urces of the facili.ty and cause the greate1t
I~.ct on the neighboring pro~ertl.s. landsc.ping will "'0 be utilized
to lessen tne visual frnpacts of the addition, is well as improve the on·
Site .-ploy&e ho~s1n9 area. and provide a wisual 5treen and noise buffer
for neighboring propertie,.
2. The proposed US! will be located and conducted in I manner 1n accord with
the PlIo Alto Co.prehenslve Plan ond the purposes of Titl. 18 of the Palo
Alto Munf;:;tpal CodC!, fill that i country club and ~o1 f co~rse is a
conditionally permitted use \n t~e OS zoning diltrict. As conditioned.
the project w11l not Cluse I significant increase in the intenslty of use
abvve current levels, and will not operate contrar~ to thE first goa' of
the Kcus1ng E198E!nt, IWhich protects the c.haracter and qual tties of
oxl.tl"9 .1r.gle·family residentl., n,lgoborhood,. By cr.ating better on
site a.en1ties, such is a landscaped ~r1vlte area for ~se by the emp'o~ee~
residents of tne country club, the facility better co""lie, "Ith the Title
lB regulation to apprcx1mate the 1ntensit,1 Df the prindpal permitted USE',
wblch Is single-family resi.denthl. I. addition, as docuIHnted in t~e
negathf: declaration) the project will not create sigr.ifi-cant
envi~nmentll 1mpa~ts, in~luding traffic gr visual 1mpacts.
CONDlTIONS
1. Prior to applicltior. for ArddtectuTat Review SDard apprcval. lh~ proposed
addition ,hall be reduced by 1,304 'Quare feet In order. to reduce the
parking demand by 20 spaces, thus meeting 2cning Ordinance requir~nts.
2. P,'lor to (1n.1 sign-off of the building permit, the applicant ,holl
tmplement tne recommendations in the project'1i Triff1c Impatt Study. to
'mprove tne access site distance for the f~cility;s .ai~ driveway, to the
satisfaction of tnQ Chief Transp~rtatiDn Official or h~s designee.
3. Prior to application for. building permit, the applicant ,hall g.in
Arch1tecturi1 Review Board and site and design process approval of and
lmplement. landscape plan which _ill effe,tively ,creen the facility from
neighboring prDperties. and provide a private outdoor area far use by the
club's emploYEes. adjacent to their on-site housing. is shown in the plans
titled. tGnc:eptuai L.lndscape Improvements and S,reening Plan. dated
Ottober 11. 1990 lind receiv€d by the Planning Oepartft'lent on Ottober 16,
li90. The hm:hcape plan shan im:"'.de the ilmount and type of vegetatior:
prQPQ~ed af"ld an: irrigation plan to be revie-wed and approved' by th~
Utl1~ti., Depart ... nt. <"ry effort shall be .,de to include draught
tolerant pianting .aterl,l, .henever possible.
4. Speti,l ,vents otte.d.d by 300 or DCre poopl •• h.l1 be Jimitod to 12 in
any ane calendar yur. The projectec! spechl ever.t ca1endar for eac.n
upcoair.g yoar shall be submitted annu.l1y to the Zoning A~inistrator, and
retords ,hall continue to be hpt of Ill. special events and tne number of
persons attending, in order to aonitor cD~liance with this condition.
S. Th. appllca,t shall appoint I nei~hborhood liaison (responsible party or
partl .. , wilD •• y be c.ntachd by the neighbors durIng .11 hours of
apent10n .nd during spec~a' events to yo1(:-t c:cmplafnts about nOise
viol1t1ons Ind other disturbanCfs at the cl~b facilities. Tnis liaison
shall be IYatlable to receive complaints at an~ time the facil~ty is being
used cor operilted. The person will be provided the authority by the
'ppllclnt t. <orrett any v\.1.tl0. of tne us. permit conditIons. and to
provide f:verl effort to aYGtd disturbances to the neighborhood. Ar.y
c~anges In tht nome., phD", n.mber and duty shIfts cf th, neighborhood
1101.on shill be provIded to the Zoning Adoinlstr.tor immediately.
6. Th •• ppllcant shin schedule T"Sular ... etings with the neighborhood. a
.'a1.u. of one Ivery six months, to revfev the status of co.plfance with
the tenlS of the use permit, the status of parking and nuisance control.
and the 'Status of neighborhood relat1cnL Adva~ce not1ce of these r~l.Ihr
... tlng ... HI be proylded t. til. Zoning "''''''Inhtntor !n order to Ill""
Itte~dlnce. A swamary report on neighborhood relations shall be provided
to the lonfng AciIIin1stritor 1D Jinuary and Au.'9ust of every ,yur, out11n1ng
the status of the _etlrigs and lleasure-s taken to illlpro ... e the relatio!Uhi".
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AGENDA ITEM 2 ~AL[X1S D~: Application by Palo Alto ~ill$ G01f and
(.ountry Club for Ccn<!itiooal Use Peri:llt (Recreation Use) an~
site and design review to allow: (J) t~e renovation and
expansion of the club;s existing clubhouse f~o~
,7.584 square feet to 32,3~6 square feet (net e~pansion of
4,812 square feet) j and (2) the mintlr expansion ;:nd'
restriping of the parki~g 10t to provide 57 additional
spa(es. Environmental Assessment: A negativ€ declaration
his be~n prepared for this ~roj~ct. File Nos. 93-EIA-34.
93-UP-35. 93-0·5. Continued from Plar.n1ng Commiss1on
meeting of January 20, 1994.
Chairperson Schmidt; I wouid jjke to thank those of you who nave returned
after the Jleeting of two II/e~ks age. Unfortunately. we had three \'!ry long
items on the agenda that night, so two of them had to be contin~ed to tnis
evening. Tnank you all for your patience ind for ~~in9 back. May we
first have staff c~nts.
Mr. $cbybet!: ~e ~ave an addition to maKe on Page 12 of t~~ stIff report~
condItion D(2). 'The applicant shall conti"u" to .alntaln the traffiC
Journal, investigate and respond to all neighbor comp1aints regarding
parking or othp.r ~atters, and limit special events of mg~ ~ ~
perspns to no more than 12 in one calendar YEar~· We would also like to
pass arc~nd some photograpbs of the site showing the ~tal fra~ whic~ was
constructed on the roof, as well as tbe banners. that show the outline of
the proposed building enyelope.
Ms. Lvtle: JUtie Maser of the Arthitectural Revlew Boar"~ is here with us
tonight.
Cha1rpfrson Schmidt: Are there questions fr~ the commission fer staff?
tpgm1s51pner Ci$sel: I have a quest10n a~ut the noise ordinance. I
understand that the city has a noise ordi"~nce, a~d r would lile to know
what the requfremp.nts are for that in terms of quietness at night, etc.
Mr. Calpn"t: My recollection is t~at the requirements ~ary. depending
upon whether you are talking about it reSidential, commercial or public
property. They gen~rally set a decibel level abOVE the ambient level at a
c~rtai" point on the property. for re~ldential property, the li.itation
is a noise leve1 of more than S1X decibels on the A-~elghted sca1e above
the local ambient ~t any pofnt outside the property p1an~~ ] cannot
explain how loud SiX decibels is.
Commi$si?n~r Ca$sel: Is that at night. or l" the dayti~? Ooes the tiae
change?
Mr. Calonnt; Yes, it does. There is I tj~ lfmitation that can be given
an Exception by_ the police department, but [ am not sure ~hether that
applies to activities other tnan construction.
Commissioner CasseT: ]n my neighbornood, ] am supposed to keep t~e noise
'evel down after 10 o'clock at night on , weekday and at Midnight on
weekends. 1 ~ondered whether that was i 1aw or just custom.
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Mr. Calgnne: The general exception in the ordinance is for any so~nd
SOLlrc.e that is 1ess than 70 decibel s~ 8 a.m. to 8· p.m. "'cndaj through
Friday, and 9 A .•. to 8 p.m. on Saturday, so there ~s a time limitition
that applies to exempt noises that ire not louder tnan 70 decibels during
thost! hours.
Commiss1pner Bercham: I ~ave a question for Julie Maser. I have read the
minutes of your October meeting on this 1ssue~ and J wanted to aSK if you
have any ether c~nts en tne architecture and appearance of the
facil lty.
Ms. Maser: let me briefly bring you up to date on the ARB prEliminary
review. By and large~ the ARB member~ were unanimous1y supportlve of the
plannil'\9 aspect of the project. It present,s a very strong ana order11
concept, and we were all very pleased with the pl,n. There was some
disagreement regarding t~e character of the proposed addition. Whil. one
member thought that the design rea1ly brought th1ngi together and was a
successful addition, others felt that there was no architectural
Integration with t~e new addition and t~.t the building would n •• e
somewhat of • schizophrenic fe.ling. It was felt that the new addition
.ight be aur. su~cessful If It "ullt upon the char.cter of the existing
bU11din9~ but went bayond it to enhance it and improve it.
Sa.e specific comments that were made: O"e was in regard to the high
glazing at the front of the building. Was It really necessary? Might it
not be excessive? What about sun control iss~es? Those were some
questions. Somebody suggested that there might b. kind of a fish bowl
feeling inside. There were c ... nts about. the fach ne.ding
strengthening. The lighting, and in particular, tho clear story lighting,
might be disturbing at night to neighbors. We felt that particular
.ttention should be paid t. that. This .1so has something to do with the
height .f the ridge, which Is a big question with the neighbor.. Ne feel
that needs to be resolved with the neighbors.
Exterior ~terials: ~it Df us felt they should be as ~onreflective a~
possible, and we were all hopeful that the use of t~e originally proposed
sandstone would be rrcons1dered, rather thin stucco, at least~ in places,
to use th~t mat~ri~', which is , ve~y nic~, rich. natural materl~l. We
applauded the atteapt to reduce the amount of mechanical equipsent on the
roof ind the efforts tnat are being made to screen whatever eQu1paent is
up there.
Our bott_ line agreements ..,ng all the members were that tilis solution
needs to .. et the needs of both the club and the neighbors. The
landscaping needs further study, using native plants that will survive in
this environaent. Egress from the parking lot and site llnes needs to be
studied. The signage that directs people to the entrance needs
strengthening. The ARB expressed the hope that the city .ill be fleXible
in this is •• e and will work wlt~ the applicant to .11ow for excelle.t
solutions to both the landscaping and the signage aspects of the project.
That pretty well suamarizes our discussion.
CommissiDner Beecham: Thank you.
Chairperson $cMidt: visited the sHr! prior to the last coafssion
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ileet ; rig on J ... nuary 26th.
(ommissioner Cass~l: Yis;t~d the site today~
hay! visited the site.
Commissioner Qjak1an: Not only have I y;s~ted the site en my own~ b~t
also Mr. Siovanotto had me up to his house, and I had a chance to look at
the site fr~ hi~ perspective.
ChairgersQD Schmidt: I w111 now open the public hearing. We ~ill first
he.r from the app1ic.nt.
Don Klages. 281 University Avenye, Palo Alto: am presjde~t of the Palo
Alto Hi1ls Golf and Country Club~ Most of you know me from my activities
here in dowr.to~ Palo Atto as owner of Wiedegan'5 and the pr~perty at 281
University Aven~e. It has been years s~nce I have attended either a
Planning Coamission or a City CounCil ~etin9, and I had forgott!n how the
workings nf the city are~ After the ~peting of January 26th, ! comAEnd
~ll of you for your dedication and your patience. I also promise that
this group will be brief, wilt try to be to the point, and] promise that
"at all 55 of u, will come up and spe... I would like to ,ay that there
are a number Df members present tonight. To show you the indication of
strength (we /lId over 75 that came last tlrne), I would 1i'e to a,l. the
Members who ire here and ir. fivor of the project to stand yp at this time
50 yay know there are people in favor of the proje(t. Thank yQU~
let rne give you. litt1. bl,tory of our project and set the stage for,
few of us who will s~1 a few brief words about it. Originally. in the
1960s. our building was designed to take advantage of all of the views
that louked inward toward tbe golf course. Act~ally, it was designed by a
desert architect. Tne ~gnificent views that we have from tke front of
the ~i1dlng that overlook the bay were totally ignored. In the earl]
1980s, we began to t~ink about renovation, ckanging the entire (acliit1,
and bringing it up to dite to tQd~l'S standards. As you know. we have
done. nURber Qf things there. If you have been up there lately, we h.,.
redeSigned the dining room and turned it into a beautiful room. We have a
new patio~ ~e ire beginning to move in that direction. As you know, we
removed the asbestos that was i~ the dining room. We upgraded it
seismically, and we have done a great deal to bring that part of the
building up to code.
What we have before you tonight is a plln that will really ccmplete the
job. It accomplishes the foll~'ng. It creates a club~oom for ou~
membership that, in addition to being elegant~ will allow us t~ enjoy
those beautif~l wiews of th~ bay. It creates a much more bea~tifu'
entrance and front to the club. This s~ould, by its appearance alone. not
oniy increase the value to us, tne me.be~s, but a15~ t~ the value of the
properties in the neighbPrhoad~ It upgrades our locker room fac11itiesj
it upgrades our rest rooms; it brings the rest of our building up to code
seismically. It complies with the ADA in creating handicap rest rooms l~
a~ elevator to handle people who are not able to go from one floor to the
oth~r.
]n addition, the landscipfnS that Is proposed will beautify not only
Alexis Dri~e but, we think the entire neighborhood. Ve have met with the
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neighbors on fo~r different occ;stons to listen to their concerns and
attempt to mit;gat~ the problems that exist. The major problems are
traffic, reflection and the neight of the strutture. We b!lieve that the
traffic study before you will show that this additivn to our cTub will
not, in fact, have any impact at ill. Tne reflective concern should not
be a problem if we use nonreflective glass, proper lighting, and face it
in the correct direction. linda Ludden, our architect. will address this
with you a little bit l.ter.
We haye erected a temporary frame so that you can s~e the actual ~eight of
the building. and it can be analyzed. We hope most of you nave had an
opportunity t~ actually take i look at it from the surrounding hills and
from dowr. below to see what effect it really does have. Again, from my
vantage po!nt and from wh!t I hop~ you saw, this should haye very little
i~pa't on any view from any direction.
I know other concerns were in regard to landscaping, trasn, the club
entrance and t~e number of events that are held each year. These, again,
will be addrtssed by lyn Nelson, our club manager. Three additional
points of interest that I think you should be aware of Is that six ye.rs
or S~ agn, we came before yo~ with an expansion plan of well over
8,000 sqoare feet. What we ~ave done with this plan fs that it ;s of much
smaller scale. it 4,800 square feet, so we do not feel that it has the
same impact. We have I number of the ~~r$ present tonfght, well over
50 of them, and I know at th.t first ... tlog, we had 75 to aD, so I want
you to know that the membe~shfp did support this. It is very interesting
when you have a membershfp Yotfng for an expansion prDgram. because there
are a lot of dollars Involved. We h.d better than as percent of the
oeobershlp In support of It, getting behlnd It and saying yes, l.t'. bring
this up to the nineties.
Finally, t~e upgrading and fmproving of our facfltty allows us to compete
with our surrounding cl Llbs. As roost of )"OU know. Sharon Heights and los
Altos Country Club list y •• r bot. firolshed .uch larger improvement
programs. This will gt~e us an opporlu~lty to bring a 1960 facility up to
tho 199Os. We look forward to dOing thl, Job and doing it right and
working with th~ commission and t~e ARB to se~ that it is good. At this
time, ! would like to introduce Lyn Nehor., who is the mar,a;er cf our
club, and she will address some additional concerns of the neighbors.
Thank you for your ,ttentlon.
tv" Nelson, 1000 Alexis DrIve. palo A1to: Good evening. [am the general
.. nager of Palo Alto Hill., and I have ~en with the club for the past 14
years. The list nine years have been IS general manager of the fac~lity.
I am here to snare with you some of the operational issues that the club
has addressed and mitfgated in respondt~9 to the City's concerns. I also
w3nt to info~ yo~ is to the ways t~e club interacts with our neighbors
and the commun'ty in a positive way. There;s no dQubt that a degree of
tolerance is expected from any reside~tiil community t~at borders any op~n
space area, whether it is a golf course, a parkl a baseball field, tennis
cOllrts or other public recr.ational facilities. Palo Alto Hill, may be
acre commercfll than other operations. but regardless, because the club
~as built first, someone either reached I decision to build a home Dr
purcha.e an exIsting h ... ie the area known as Palo Alto Hills bordering
in e~;sting private country club.
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The club has adjusted cur operations to be v,ore sensitive to the aspects
of our b~~~ness that irritate our neighbors. These changes have had an
adverse economit impact on the club, but .e understand and hdve proven
that the adjustments to our oper~tions have been mut~alTy beneficial in
mitigating neighbor concerns. While these changes have i~pacted us, they
hav@ provided a better balance witnin the neighborhoo~. We are asked to
control the number of cars parked alon9 AleXiS Drive, and we ~ave
maintained a. log where a daily car count is done. lie have had only nine
octurrences in 65 months, totalling 38 cars parked 110ng Ale~is Orive.
Most of the cars along tne streets no~ are actually frorn private partie~
held in residential h~es. We have counted this activity also and have
noted well o't'f:r 700 clrs in the same tillle period. CtJrrently, one of the
neighbors holds business meetings at his home t~ice weekly, and there arE
around 10 to 30 cars that border the streets during these meetings.
We have implemented ~ new system of walet parking ~ereby an employee is
stationed it the driveway of the club to ensure that the ~eh;cles enter
the club property and are parked within ~ur lot. This policy change has
solved the problem and has proved successful for the past f've years.
A most recent concern is directional signage placed on trees and street
signs. NeIghbors rIghtfully resent this ,ign_go. At the last .. etlng and
.1so at this ueet,ng, one of our nei9hbo~s will show you a bag containing
s1gns that have beer. picked up alo~9 the streets. [cln attest that these
saaples represent a fraction of what I ha~e pulled off over the years. We
used to charge these events 525 for a cleanup fee. ~nd then increased it
to SlOO, so now at the suggestion of the same nei9~bor, we hiV~ increased
it to S2OO, and are allocating these funds to a la~dscape impro~ement
fund.
What ~ do Know, hQWeVEr~ is t~at not all of these s,q~s are from
club-hosted functions. When we reference tne sign to the pirty regtsteYed
witn the club, they do not always correlate. It is our feeling that suae
of these signs may be directional up to Foathil1 Park or cDuld, in fact,
be directional signs to other neighboring properties. We are ~till trying
to work on solving the problem from i club control standpoint.
During the neighbor meeting held In August, some h~owners express~d
concern that there was an excessive amo~nt of debris along club property.
We have dedicated anot~er stiff employee to act is a ~onitor ta patrol
t~is Ire. da1]y~ This program has been successful. We require p~rties
such is high school proms and col1ege·related e~ents to have security
guards present, contracted by t~e ~lub, to en5~re that t~ere is proper
supervision, that lo;tering is stopped and to protect club and neighboring
propert ies .
All employees who reside on the club p,emis.s (tnere Ire Ipp,oxim_tely 14
employees that do so) have room prlvileges as part of their compensation.
The club Rlintains what we call a contract of conduct with our employees.
It does ask them t~ be good neighbors an~ with respect tv noise and site
disturbances that have caused complaints in tne past~ Employees ~loTating
these rules .ill lose their hcusing. Alcohol abuse is a concern amongst
the ne;g~bors. All of our servers and bartenders ire required to be
proficient in what we call an alconol awareness training program. We do
everything possible to prevent potentially hazardous drivers from getting
behind the "heel. In the pa.t eight years, there ha.e been two
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infrictions where alcohol was involved.
We take ai'l active role, through donations .and participaticn, in contTU,mit,)'
projects. We nave donated our equipment ar.d staff to repair the little
l~ague field in l~s Altos. We conate approxtmatel~ 200 rounds of golf
each year tOo fund raising and (haritable events. ~e allo~ several school
golf teems to use our (DurSe free of charge. We are a member of the Palo
Alto C~aaber of Commerce and a 5UpPGrter of many Pil0 Alto organizations
and businesses. We have al1o~ed cur nei9~bors to utilfze our club for
meetings and IS a photographic backdrop for a neighbor's b~siness
pDrtfOoHo. We have even responde-:i to an etnefgem:y si,tuation whertby i
homeowner's pipe ruptured. The maintenan~~ staff repaired the pipe free
of ~h~rge to the neighbor. Oftentimes, dYri~g the years, neighbors wi11
need tOo borrow tables and ,hairs for parties held at their nOJ~. If they
run short of ice, they call u~, and we acccmmodatt them whenever we can)
as part of r~1n; I good neighbor.
The club has i150 provided employment for over 2Q children of neighbors in
various pOSitions at the club. Thes~ children have "ot been club Dembe~s
tn cOiiIIplhnce with the club policy, otherw1se~ there wo'J1d have been lIany
~re c~ildren ~lo}ed. Therefore, thE tlub ~as provided an economic
benefit to the lomediate area by providing an opportunity for employment
c1cse to home.
It is also importi~t to realile the club's interaction with the
neighborhood in the event of an eaergency. The club has ten employees
trained in basic first aid and CPR. Shou1d a disastEr occur, such ,5 i
•• jor earthquake, the club has agreed to be the neighborhood's ... rgeney
relief station. This is an agreement that is, I think, about 5e~en years
old. Our first a~d su~plie5, food, water, generator, lights, blankets t
trained staff ~nd our s~ismical1y safe structure would be the locatfon for
n~'ghbor~ to gathtr. Many nei9hbors wno are not members use th~ club is
an area to _ilk their d99s and walk or jog along the cl~b's fairways. We
clean up after the pets, a~ we understand tnat Our property is an
attrattt~e area to walk, and _e try to restritt the use as best we can to
not endanger these neighbors by subjecting tnem to potential exposare
during the ~ours of p1.y, when they could be hit by. golf bill.
In clDsing. as an employee of the club, an important part of my job
description, as prescribed by the Board of Directors, is to ens~r~ that
the club is responsi~e to neignbors' concerns. It has been, and will
continue to be, our operational procedure to ans~er any compla\nt withtn
24 ho~rs of notice by phDne ccnta~t. I bave personally aade ~ ho.e _
number available to so.e of the neighbors. I am registered with t~e fire
department and pollee dEpartmer.t as a contact in case of an esergenc,. and
in t~e e~ent I am out of town, there is always a fDrwardfng nWAber for
anyone's use.
tert~in prog~ams at th2 club have ~en mentioned 15 tondition$ for
approval of this project by the Plan~ing COQmisstOon. From an operations
perspective, .11 of those .1ements the club would be very happy to comply
wit~. At this ti .. , I ~o"ld like to introduce Geoff Ball, the faCilitator
whOD we hi~e h1red for our nelghbarhcod meeti~9s.
Geoff Sal1, 315 SrYlot Street, Palo Alto: I was lhe facilitator hired for
the three .. etings the club held with the .ei9hbors, ~jch was the second,
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third .and four meetings. The club"s intent fcor the meetings, as expressed
to met was to create a setting where the neighbors cou1d comfo~tably
express cor.c!rns, and the ciub could present its plans and responses t~
the concerns raised. The first meeting focused on listening and
understanding t~e concerns of the ne1ghbars of the project. The second
meeting fo~used on respondi~9 to the toncerns that had been rajsed, and a
third meeting Just last wee •• ddressed questions that had arisen .fter the
second meeting and brought people up to date. Specific concerns and
respcnses fraa the first t~o Neetings from tie ,~ub haye teen $ubmitted to
Ji. Gilliland of the city planning staff. I .ould now li,e to introduce
Linda ludden. Carrasco & AssGCiates, the architect who will pres~nt t~e
prcjec"t.
l'nda Ludden Ponc'ni. Carrasco & Ass~ciiteS. lZO Hamilton Ayenue. P~10
!ltQ: We are irch~tects for the project. I would like to briefly review
with you the way we have approached the design fer the project. Tnis is
based on not only the needs a~ interests of the club and its membership
for an enhanctd facility. but also ,~ responding to concerns from the past
from tne city and from the c~mments that ha~e been brought out ~hen the
p~Y1ous project was brought through. Our part1cylar design s~lution has
evolved from wanting to create a project which has no reqUirements far
variances. The bulld1ng expansion is much smalier than the prevlously
suggested design. The way in whlC~ the addition has been placed on the
sito .oke, the building projoct out such 1es. into tne landscape than tn.
previous design. The building heIght is oithin the code for the height
li~tt in the district, and the parking solution crecltes actually IIOre
spaces than are required by the addition. There is no need for a variance
for parking. Those Ire the ba~1c differehces (rem the previous solution.
The key to the renovation of the club~ as DDn Klages mentf~ned~ ~as to
briog this buildlns into tbe ~1netjes and to provide for the members a
sense of a Du1lding that feels more liKe h~, a spacious, 11ght and
beautif~l space to be in. The present building fs very darK. When you
come into the entry way, there is a yer~ low ceiling. rt Is very dark in
the middle of the building. There are five different levels in this
bunding, making it very diffic'Jlt to get .round. We hove solved the
problems of vertical access to th~ disabled by wasting some floor levels
to bring some of the floors into a contiguous relationship that did not
exist formerly. We hive also added an elevator, so tne facility will now
be fully accessible. A -mole new group of restrooms ~as been added to
accommodate the disabled on the first floor. T~. second floor bathrooms,
which are relatod to the locker rc .. s, will be upqraded also for complete
disabled access. In addition to this, the building will be crnoplet.ly
upgraded to current 5£1S.;C codes, so tt will ha~e earthquake
1 IIproveatent s.
The placeaent of the addition .long the front of the building has resulted
fro. removing portions of the ~ildiog that prQtrud~ O~t. T~ere is an
existing wing of offtcrs, a large port cochere that comes clear out over
the driveway, and I very bfgh landscape .all in the front of the building,
which giVES a VerI foreboding appe~rance as you come up to the building.
It tends to keep you away instead of bringing you in. So all of that is
being removed. Rather tnan extending the bui1din~ out at , right angl. to
the existing building, the addition Is being placed parall.; to the
existing building. which keeps its profile more flat and does echo the
plainer aspects of the existing building. It .lso allows us to put the
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new cl~brDom in a position where it can ta~e advantage of the views out
into the h111s and to to. bay. The floor plan itse1f has an angle to the
plan so t"at the ~iews are taken advantaqa of, and it als~ helps to c~t
dOIll'n on the refl ect iVit,)' that you .. oul d 9'l!t from a fl at plane of glass.
It comes out at iUt angle. We have ~also introduced bay windows to soften
up the fa;ade of the building.
Key to the design of the building and bringing in a sense of lig~t and
opermess ta the center of the building ;s that this d·;!sign removes i
portion of the second flooT in the ~1ddle of the building. We are
creatipg a spine or acceS$ through the cepter, from which you can get a
sense of ~here you are in the building. There ire i lot of different
levels in the building ind it is difficult to corne in and know w~~re yo~
want to go and which arei of the buiiding you want to go to. The ~ew
desi9~ has an oper. .rea thrQugn t~e middle so you can see from one plrt of
the build,ng to anotner, and it also gives a better sen~e of arrival and
brings MOre openness and spac1ou5ness into the lobby areas.
This is the area that you see as the spine on tne plan. At the present
time. we hive this area designed wit~ clear story glass on the side
walls. I would like to comment that on Page 3. the staff report noted
that the roof was g1ass. The roof is not glass. The roar is go1~g to be
a solid. painted metal roof of I nanreflectiwe color. But there would be
clear story gla$$ on the sIdes of the $plne tnat goes down tnrough the
mIddle to bring light Into the center of the building.
One of the concerns raised about lig~t COMing out of that irea we feel can
be $olYed in two ways. One Is by the directIng of the light on the
interior of the build1ng, because the only prDblem is going to occur at
nfght with that. Aiso, install in that gl~ss area window shades whfch are
Dn a ti.er or on a photocell which would automatically close so that light
would not spill out at flight. We haye found this to be an effective
$u1utiun in other prDjects. It is i system that ts v~ry workable and
usable ln this ;n$ta~ce.
One of the other thi~gs that had been mentioned as a concern is t~e amount
of glass in the new add; tion. Our Ori9i"al d!s igns w,,",en we were first
starting on tnls had floor·to·celling gla,s In the clubroom. After
meeting with the neighbors and hearing their conc!rns about that, the
glass area now beg1~s at 30 inches frD~ the floor and extends to eight
feet above the floor, $0 the actual glass height itself is ibout five foot
six inches. Then fram the e1ght·f~ot point above that glass, there is a
solid panel t~at goes up to the under~ide of the eave. This allows us tc
have a higher ceiling in tne second floor. The present sec~nd floor
ceiling is only eight feet and is very oppressive when you ha~e a long
roOD with a ~ery low ceiling. We would like to be able to keep the higher
ceiling on the second floor, but we ire not taki~g the glass all the way
to t~~ ceiling on tnat one.
I oill brlefly touch on some of the .specls of the sIte p1.nning Which
have been brought up in the aeetings. One 1S t~e 'oncern about the
driveway entrance from Alexis Drive and the f~ct th.t when people come out
now, they start at an angle to co.e off, and they have trouble looking
back up the hi11 to see. The entrance has been r,oesigned to .ssenti.11y
force cars to park awre at a right angTe w~en they stop. There is a
diYider strip that has been put in tnat driwewlY !Q that tn2re are two
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clear lanes for people to come in and go out. That design is the result
of ~orking witM the traffi~ engineer. ihe city Mas recommended that the
ue.a. just downhill of that -driveway ~ tQllered a ~ ittle bi t, tha.t the
actual grading in that area be lowered about six inches to improve
visibility. Also the grass in that area shiiu1d be kept var-y short or use
a very Tow ground (over so as n~t to biock th~ view. Part ~f the design
i.spect tnat we do want tD do on benal f of neighbor CC1)Cerns in seo:!ing cars
in the parking lot is, we want to add bushes by the parking lot itself up
ftfgh so that the carS are screened. That was a reoal concern t~at some of
tne neighbors Mad, seeing the cars in the parking lot too well. So it is
pirt Df the landscape pian to add that~ l~d also to enhance the
landscapfng en Alexis Drive, adding oak trei!S in lieu of the ex{sting
trees. That would need to be phased in o~er time $0 that yo~ do not
denude the sloDe and then c~ back ~ith new~ small trees. We would like
to introduce those oak trees along there and let them infil1 before the
other trees are removed. So that area would get landscaped. Also, the
addition of a new sign for the club in that arei as you approacn the club
sc that drivers coming u~ the hfll are a_are of the fact t~at there is a
fad 1 ity there~ tnat there is a dr;veway~ and that they need to be l~oking
for it. That is part of tne landscap1~g pr~posal. lynn Winterbotham 1s
present to answer any questions you might hl~e en the landscaping. 1 ha~e
just given you i rough overvlew of it. We nive tried to keep the
landscapfng svlution for the project in more of a natural format w;t~ no
big retaining ~alls, that ~pe of tMi~g. with mort of l gentle. rolling
solution to th~ natural slopes that occur in the area.
A lot of the things I was g~ln; tD ~ntton about reasons for the design
Oon has already covered so I will not Telterite the.. ] would like to ask
th~t the commfssion eons,deT one change to th~ stiff rec~ndlt,ons und~r
Condition A(l). That condition requires el~.fnation of the chimney. What
I would li«e to suggest is that we be os«ed to study the chimney design
and potentially, its location in conjunction with the rcof design. If we
are asked to e11minate the chimney, that would mein there could be no
fireplace. We would like to have the opportunity to work on this thro~h
the ARB meetfngs and wOT.k en it with staff to be able tD create a design:
w~ere we can mainta1~ the fireplaces that the ciub WQ~ld like tc have in
tneir lobb;~s and in their upstiirs sitting room. We c~rtainly would be
willing to study that further and work on it with the ARB. Th.t is a
reqUEst J wou~d ask tMat you consider. Oth~r tn~n that, I am available
for q'1J~sticns.
Commissigner Beecha~: Regardi~g Condition Atl), it also ta1ks about
rede5ignf~9 the central roof spine. Do YDU have any t~oughts on ~ow you
would go about doing that?
Ns. LYdden: We have had an inform~l meeting wit~ Julie Ma$~r and t~e
president of the club~ We have locked at ~~ alternatives ta that, suetl
IS chan9ing the slope or flattening it, that type of thing. I think that
our intention ~as to get some input from this group. We would like to
have the flexibi1ity to keep working on that with the ARB. That .rea of
tne building is very impa~tant to th~ de~\gn and the strength af the
design lIIhere we a~e creating a neart and soul, as it were, of t.he bL.1 lding
that gives you a gcod feeling when you CDOe in and gives .... po~.r to the
center of the building. We are certainly willing to keep v.rLlng an that.
Compjssioner Oiakian: Linda, when you were ~kjng the design af th~ roof
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spine and the chimney. did you do that, giving recognition t~ some of the
v;ews of the n!ighbors surrounding tr.~ Site?
~~: Yes, the pOints that ha~e be~n broug~t up in the nefghbor
meet!ngs, particularly from the neighbor right up the hill, being
concern~d that tne roof is gOing to cut tr.e view. When you look at tne
aotk~p, our inttrpr~tation of that is thot you can see over the roof.
There are c.ertai.nly larse trE.es in the aru that block l'IOre view than tne
building does. We are trying to be sensitive to eyery~ne/s needs. We
Mould 11k. to ~av. the opportunlty to t.ep studying it. I think the club
h cert:!i~l)' wil !ing to \i'Cork on it.
Cqlm1ss1oner Qflkian: So, 19ai~. just so I understand it, when yo~
designed the roof, were yOw standing in a spot somewhere above, not
looking It it frorn the frDnt or frorn the side, but standing up on the
property 1 In. so you could ~et.nr.ine .hat the view would be for the
residents?
Ms. LUdden: We ha~ walKed the site. I hid walked along the side, but I
have not been on the neighbor's property. I have been ~p on tne hill
adjacent to the neighbor's property. The f •• ling that I had about It at
the time was that it is not that .uch higher tnan the mechanical eqUipment
thit is up t~ere. From that standpoint, t~ere are mechanical units on the
dining rOGa roof. Thfs is not ~ch higher than that~ and it fs the peak
t~at you Ire looking It. So it ;5 fr~ that aspect. It;s also a very
small arel ~r the building. The front part of thE bUlldi"9 doe5 not have
that high. roof on it.
COIM;$sfoner Qjakjan: How about some of the other neighbors. not
necessarily just the neighbor who is right next to your property?
Ms. Ludden: From down the hill, as you come up Alexis. there is only one
point at which you g.t ~n Country Club Court and you are looking u~ that
you can barely se. that peak. So from down the hill, !t Is really not,
vislbl. thing.
t:9IPJ1gioner Qiakfiln: Have you leaked at an,Y ot.her area to put the
ingress/egress to this Site? Or is there some reaso~ why you are fixed on
~av1ng it where it fs right now?
Ms, luddgn: I will give you a little background. There was a stydy done
about five or six years ago, pursuant to tne previous deSign, where
.1ternite entrance designs were e~plcred by 8rian Kangas Fou1k~ the civil
engineers for the project. They looked .t trying to get. drive.ay at the
other end. Because of the grade~ and the orientat1Qn of the road as it
curves there, it was determined t~at thit was ~ven more ~nsafe~ The city
Tr~nsport~tion Department did not support moving the driveway. either.
Genera'ly. the conclusion of that study was that t~e city Transportation
Oepartaent and tne civil engir.eers; fro~ working on it, said no. that
location is the best location for the driveway. given tne configuration of
Alli!!xh Drive co.ing Up.
Com-js$1oner Glazier~ ihis is prob~bly a question for the president Dr
general manager of the fad 1 ity~ Three years ago when we looked ilt tfoli:s. tne issu@ in ~ .ind, and in several other people's minds I think~ related
to tr~ffic and fntensity of use. If you looked 4t the economics of the
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project at the time, we did some back-of-the--envelope calculations, and it
seemed that to pay for the addit~on. it ".Iould require i 25 to 50 percent
1ncreas~ 1n private parties. which were a re~enue-ganeriting act;vltl. I
recagr.ize that th~ current proposal is about half the size of that. b~t 1
still have some concerns about traffic. Therf is a traffic study here,
and it is good to see that the appropriate int~rsections will sttll stay
it Level A, but I am concerned about what that really means. Do~s that
Dlean there is going to be twice as much traffic as there currently is? I
Q'Ui!"ss there are a couple rof "Ways, from an economic perspectille, to look it
this, and that you are goir.~ to do some good things for the-club. If you
lIake your current members pay for it through increased dues, t~at Is
probably not sooething yO" want to tell tnem tonight. My point is, if
current ~ers pay for it. there probably won't be much of a traffic
impact. If you plan to add new memberships or if yo~ plan to 1ncreaie
cOlllDeycial lctl ... 1ty up there, there "Will be an irr,pact. That is someth"ing
I am con,erned about.
Mr. !Chges: Bill. I think 'We Cin answer that pretty simply. The-r"E: are
four ",.,ays in which we pl an to financ-p. H, and everybody in this room is
fully a"." of it. The flrs! thing'" are going to do is tnat tr.ere w',l1
be a temporary dues increase for 30 months of SlOO a mo~th pe~
membership. That will take care of about a million dollars. Wt have 18
memberships for sale ~hich are basically subscribed. and that is • very
s.all portion .•• have 380 presently. The 18 will take "S • littl. bit
over 400, whi~h is lfss than eith!r of our adjoining clubs. That will
raise another million dollars. We have isked the members~ip, those who
are willing to do it, if they would 11ke to subscribe to a special issue
that t~e club is going to have. In fact. that will raise perhaps another
third. or another m:lllon, which will be $3 million. This entire projact
is probably at abcut $3.8 million. That is an addition.l $800,000, and w!
hn'e a SJ .illion line of (reGit. We have elver $800,000 in the bank, so
t~ere a1~ i nuab~r of ways of getting that, so what Wf do not plan to do
is to have any additional events to create any add1ti~nal traffic~ this
Is sa.ething we have talked abcut, becaus! this is not what the club
wants. The idea behind this 15 to have i very special. nice rODe that the
club ~rs can enjoy. 1t is not a place where we will ~ave continual
parties.
CQmmissjo~er Glazie~: So you expect a net 5 percent increase in
_rshlp?
Mr. ~l.a.s: It will be baSically 18 pembers.
pernaps on! or two meiabers ~er day using it.
people do not c~me in ~reat swarms. They are
entire-day.
On the golf co~rse, that is
Unlike other facilities,
spread out thro~gh the
C.onmissioner Oja1dan: I have a couple of Questions about operations. I
nave gone through this pretty carefully. and there are a Tot of different
numbers f~rtunately hidden in all of these pieces of paper we hive. so ]
have a basic ioea of the activities that 90 O~ up t~ere. Wnat] did not
see in here is. we talk about several e ... ents that can be larger than 350
people.
Ns. Nelson: CQrrect,
Coanisstoner Qiakian: Whiit is the largest event you "~ilve it this sitE
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I I , during the year? How many people attended?
Ms. Nelson: The la~est e~ent that we had list year was 420 people. This
past yea~ during ca'enda~ year 1993, we only had four events that were
greater than 350 peop'!.
tgmnit.s19oet Ojlkhn: l10w abl)ut nllUTs of operation? How "iih do t"e
events go on?
Ms. Nelion: Our standard contract is that ~ require that the list ca11
for alcohol is it 12!IS i.e. The parties are contracted to us~ the
fac~'1ty in the e~en;n9 hours bet~een 6:30 p.e. and 12:30 i.m., with last
call at 12:15 a.m.
Commissioner Qjakia~: So basically, t~e site cleaTS out sometime before
Dn~ o'clotL
Ms. NeJ~pn: [wo~ld say so. The exception to t~lt w~uld be club r.ember
parties. Outside parties are on contracted time.
~si9ner Qjaki,n: H~ late can a club member party go?
Ms. Nels9n: Inf~uently, it would be half a d~z~n people in the dining
roo. past the hour of one .'ciock. We fully comply with al' the ABC laws,
5~ tnere is not alcohol av~flable.
Commissioner Ofakian: I imagine that at this stage, yo~ have looked
through the staff report. There are se.er.l suggestioo, they ~ave made in
there~ wit~ some cGamenting on maintaining the eQYipment on the roof. Do
you h~ve any comments on tnat?
Ms Helson: A good portion of the comments that .ere in the staff report
we are turning over to our architect to re~!cw~ The changes on the roof
will have to be pe~ane~t changes. Carrasco & Associates is j~st go1~9 to
have to review it. For the landscaping? we have ~ired lynn W1nte~t~am
to review those concerns and recommendations in the staff report. The
1te~ ] can comment on ar~ basicall} the operit~onal items which require
us to (ontinue to maintain the parkfng lot, to maintain a log of phor.e
ca.lls tha.t are received frOD! the neighbors, and to .,resent to the Zoning
Adm~nistrator the calendar for ]994 in advance. We are happy to do all of
that.
~erry Schwartzman, 3Q77 Country Club prive. Pile Alto: I reside directly
across the street fr~ the club. I want to be very specific in what we
are talking about tonight, and be run), e.xact in everyttrjrlQ we do. We
live in the second house from the corner, so you w1l1 know exactly where
we are at. The Pilo Alto Hills Golf and Country Club is not I country
club as you normally would perceive a country club to be. The Palo Alto
Hills Golf and Country Club is a for-profit corporltion with restrictions
on the golf playing. [t is a private course restricted to Eembers and
th.ir gUF.sts only. But toe rest of it Is • for'profit corporation. There
are two sides to this enterprise, as [said. One is the golf links and
th~ __ other is a hall fer hire for parties, events, etc.. Next, it has been
said that the club ha, al.ay, tried to be • good neighbor. This i. true.
The Palo Alto Hill. Gelf and Country CI"~ has tried to be a good neighbor
when they want something. Other than t~it, we are treated with di~daln.
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I .il1 cite ynu a couple of examples. Twfce before, they have come up
before the city, asking for schemes to expand. They want to etpand their
restaurants, but tney cever this up by saying, we want to do this because
we want to put in handicoip toilets or we want to make private tOilets for
the guests so they won't have to go into the locker rooms? again ~asking
tne subtle reasons bthind why they are doing it. To clte another couple
of eumpl H, sometime ago, they !lui 1 t l huge screen or. their dr1~ing range
immediately adjacent to the very expensive hous~s across the street
witho~t a permit. When the city caugnt them red handed and hauled them up
for' review, th:ey said, oh nO', 'We are just replacing an existing screen,
even though it was triple in size and mnre than double in width. Whe~
they were caught at this, the city said, you have to cut it dawn to
60 percent of what they had. Then the city required them to put up 10 or
12 trees to ~ask th& scree~ fro~ the street a~d adjacent neighbors.
Within a year. through neglect and poor maintenance. more than ~alf the
trees died. They only replaced the trees after the c1ty got on their back
because the neighbors kept calling in on it. This can all be checked in
ycur recordi, ] am sure.
At one of the meetings of homeowners. we complained that per~ons renting
their facility were putting up signs on the torner of AlexiS Drive and
Page Mill Raad J and on man~ occasions. all the way down Page Mil1 Road to
the freew~. Ms. Nelson said, tn~y have a contract. Well. they may have
it In their contract, but it is not enforced. These particular signs I
have brought tonight (and I've got many ~re) --SUSie and James' wedding,
anniversary parties, stuff like that. r called up one day about th~s~
signs. [said, there are s1gns all the way. The oniy person t~ere of any
authority was the floor ~n of thE day. He told me to buzz off. He said.
we have every right t~ put those signs uP. and donft you dare tcucb them.
Of course, I listEned tc him, as you ca~ see.
All of these signs were collected after t"is meeting where they said. it
is never going to ~appen again. ! must hav~ 25 of them in here. Down at
the corner of Alexis Drive and Page Mill Road, ther! is a mignificent old
oak tree. I am sorry to say that! think this tree is dying, aided and
abetted by what the users of t~e ccuntry c1ub have done to it. I will
snow you what J mean. They have hung these signs not only on street signs
but 'Witn nails such as this, poltl'!ded into this tree. 1 have a bag full
for you to look at. (displays nails about 4 incM!S in length) These were
pounded into this magnificent old oak. tree. and I think it is dying. ] am
not a botanist, but it ;s losing its leaves and turning kind of
ye11owish. These signs haVE been pounded in th~re and pounded in there t
and it is kil1i~g the tree.
~Y po1nt in all of this is that it is not ;11 that they claim it to be.
They are= by ind for themse1ves~ and they really don't give i damn about.
the adjacent neighbors. Oh, they will listen to us when it comes to
s~thing they want. But ether than that, no such th1p.g. Tney ask for
o~r impress\ons lnd suggestions, and then ignore them. Tn'-J only respond
when th~ city staff demands it. A couple of the items they addr~ssedt
such as the parking lot. They said we will increase t!Je parking. Wait a
minute. Again. it is masked over. They said t we ar! putting in 50 more
.talls. What they were really doing is taking the stalls a.d c,ttin9 them
down. aa~ing them 5Ostl, compact stalls. My wife and I did. little
amateur survey of the parking lot on three occaSions. We consider as
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campa(t cars the Mercedes 190 and smaller~ They ranged anywhere from 20
to 25 percent of t~e cars in the lDt at the times we di~ the survey. This
is an affluent cl~b) SD naturally, they dr;we larger clrs. You are not
-going to put .. n of those into camp act s1&1l s. Jf any of you drive 11
larger C:d.r~ espec:;al1y J: more expensive one, if you \I.'ant to protect the
sides of lt~ you are going to ta;e up two sta1's. 1t is self-defeit1ng,
what they are doing.
In our letter to the Architectural Ro'le. Bo.rd of September 27th. we
stated that one of our major co~cerns was I proposed ~ncrease in the
~eight of the windows on the street side and greatly increasing the
length. let's 19.in be very specific and .xact. There i. going to be
1.100 square feet of additional glass are. 00. the street side of this
addition. The new length will be 160 feet of glass. and the height w111
vary an~ere from five-and-~-half feet to 14 feet high. That is one heck
of ; 10t of 91ass to be faCing you. [yen ~re t~oublesome ts tne fact
that they are propcsing moving forward toward the street this same glass
wall from 22 to 30 feet t greatly ~agnffyfn9 the impact it is going to have
on the adjacent area. You could imagine it back there about 30 felll't, if
yQ~ bring th2t same Will ~p here, and it Is going to Rag~ify the dickens
aut of it, J ask you, if you lived acrDSS th¥ street. ~s we do, and some
of ~ nefgnbors, would you YDurself like this? If you were a prospectf~e
buyer of o~r house, would yo~ buy it w~th th1s glass wall there? Would
you buy it with increaSing commercial activity? ... ·hat do )'ou think this h
going to do to the val ue of tne adjlc.ent homes? It is sure nDt gQoing to
enhance it. I t~;nk you will igree with tkat.
The area surrounding this area is one of tne finest Resident~ .. l [st~te
[AI) zones in the city. There Ire only two others in the city like tt,
one being the Old Trace Road area and the other down In Barron Park.
Would you even consider putting such a commercial hall-for·bire facility
down In those neighborhoods? I hardly think $0. I hope yO" don't
consider expanding the one we already ha~e.
The latest wrin'1e the club hiS pulled is to rent their restiuraot and
Pirty raa.s out to tour bus operators! brfnging thesE big tour buses up
narrow, windy Page Mill Road, then up the narrow, hilly Alexis Drive to
the club to ser\'e them iunch. This is .. 11 done ~ithout any cDnsideratt~n
as to what it is gotng to do for the neighbors~ ]f you had a .il1ion
dollar house or a mil11on-and-a-half dollar h~~s~. and you ~ld these tour
buses going by. you ore goiog to spike that va1"e straight down. They
elilm that just because they are Increasing the s.ating cap.clty and the
square footage of the restaurant, tnat GOES not mean there will be in
increase in usage. Ah c;mon. They ask you and me to believe tnat t~ey
wi11 not increase t~eir rental actJvit} just because tney Ire increasing
the square footage of the bar and restaurant area by DOre than double its
present slze. Check the records. let's be specific. Tnat is exactly
~hat it is~ Ask the questions of them. This doesn't even include the new
patio they arr putt1ng outside, -mich is actually ~ deck, which they will
use when the weather fs good, and put three or four tables out t~ere. We
will not only ~ave • party Ir.,ide. We will have parties outside. We are
not yet even tal ling about the twa conference rooms t~ey are putti~
lnside. No aent10n has been •• de of these. Thes~ two conference rooms
are 235 square feet each. The can serve dinner to them. They can have a
prlvite party in each one of these conference rooms. No mention fs _ade
of that. We will just keep Quiet about it. Maybe they won't catch it.
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Thi$ ;$ nothing more than a commercial enterprise ~ith a private go1f
co~rse. This is a restaurant party facility for rent. We na~e lived with
this foy many years. One of the reasons they hava lfved with it is
becau$t the~ like living next to a country tlub. but +t has evolved, nQw)
t~ a cOlTI'IIercial enterprise in an Open Space lone. Should you agree to any
part of t~is p~posal, then I ask you to impose £nforceable conditio"s,
and you will have to put tl:'!eth 'in it that will protect us from ",hat i n.a ... e
enumerated above. Thar.k you very much.
Matthew Hurley. 4030 Moorpark A',enye, San Jose: ! halle to admit to being
a mouthpiece. J am Mr~ Giovanotto's atto~ney. I a~ a golfer and J am a
neighbor to coulltry cl ubs "in the past. I know the pol Hies. but I have to
admit t~at no matter n~W many people stand up behind me~ I still think
tnat gai~g right to your very ordinance lbout open space sets it off in
the proper tone. Th~ bott~ line for you is to protect the public health,
safety and 'Welfare. Line A of Open Spice. A1so, Part C of tn! specific
purposes for open space are to permit the reasonab1~ use of o~En space
land, while at thf same time, preser~ing and protecting its inhfrent open
space chara~teristics to ensure its c~nti~ued av,'lab1e for agr'culture,
s(enic land, recreation lar.ds, conservation of natural resource lind, and
for the cont.a1M1ent of urban spl·allll. Now~ere in there do ] hear that H
entitled necessarily to be brought Into the nineties in its i~ter1or
space. "QWhe~ i~ there is there any ~ndicatiDn that just b~cause an
architect --and believe me~ I ~ave worked with a lot of arcnitects and
t~ey are wonderf~l. talented p~ple, but nowhe~e does it SiY that we have
to take their particular eyes as the measure of Exactly what the sttuctu~
they built on top of that club \. 90ing to do to the existir.g View, of the
people who live around that space.
I heard the a~ument frog, I believe~ th~ president .hen h! said that tney
were there fir-st. Okay. lbey lOf!:re there is they exist toda.y first. Now,
they are there surrounded by neighbors who, in reliance on the fact that
tftey were there and had to 1 t-ve with Uera, have not tded to dttse them
d~. but certainly. ] am not sure if this ordin~nc! Dr any thin; involved
in this ord1nance allows the~ to ~~pand anyth1ng that they are doi~9. So
the basic premise being used here is perhaps not one that is criticj11y on
pOint.
This staff report, by the .ay, is i great ane. ! have heard i lot of
t~em. J would likE to have all the attachments be admitt~d to this record
as if they were ante again recited tonight. There is an a~ful lot of good
information about the previ~us application that is still very apropos.
One of the first thfngs [ noted in looking at the staff report is,
however, that I think there ~re some interesting dlff!rences i~ this
application. One is that there is no Zoning Administrator invQlved here.
In all of the past applications, the Zoning Administrator probabl)
provided tne integral .l ... nt thit led to the denial. That Zoning
Administrator fo~nd nothing i~ any of the previous applications that has
amended Dr ~as attempted to be amended that would .Itigate the very
concerns that were expressed at that time. The staff indicates there was
no Zonfng Administrator in this particular case. 1 don't know whether it
is the size of the building or t~e state of afilirs. tne existence or
nonexiste~ce of a Zoning ~dm)nistTitor, Whatever, byt 1 find that
interestfng that there hiS been no input fr~ a Zoning Adaiaistrator on
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this applic~tion, when the history of this project i~ such that one was
very, very important.
let's take a look at the building itse1f, going from the larger scope to
the s~'ler $~ope. The application says that this maximum height allDws
2S feet. I do not disagree. The OS ordinance .110.s for 25 feet. \/hat
do disagree with is the measurement used by t~e architett. At the front
of where the bu11ding w1ll exist. is designed, the present topography of
th.t landscaping is at 308 feet. They .re going to fill it In to 311
feet, and they ~rE going to build a building tnat t~ey say is only 336
f •• t t.11 .. 311 and 25, ••• zingly, Is 25 feet, right on the nos.. But if
you look closely, the measurement is taken to the center of the sTope of
that sO(llled spine on a f~ur and t~lye roof. That means there are two
additlon.1 feet of roof Which stick up above the center of the .lope. So
if you rea·lly \!Iant to take the existing topography to what is ruliy
proposed ~here. you are t~lk;ng about I 30-fo~t building, betause they ire
going to fill in dirt, and they are gcing to somehow jimmy the measurement
at tne top to ma •• it go to 25 feet. I draw th.t tl> your ittention. I
don1t know how you folks me~~ure those things, and I don't know how stiff
actually measures it~ but I certainly think it needs a second lQok~
because I Cin raise the footi"g' by 20 feet and build 20 feet on top of
tnat and still exceed yo~r ordi~ance, but m~ the interpretation is
slightly off.
let's take a look at exactly what is being propDs~ for that necessary
architectural element, that spine. ThEY tell 10~ tney are 90ifl9 to .ake
the interior so much nicer. and it is going to be sa MUch grander and so
DUch better of • place to enter into. H~ere do they real11 say what the
effect is going to be on the neighborhooO, the extern.l vie., the open
space consideration. Ttle interior] don't believe 1.s what tJ\e open space
ordinance was designed to protect. The exterior was. There is absolutely
no functional use that has been proposed by the architect for that spine
thot goes down the middle, other th,n ,Imply brfoqing It into the
nineties. Certainly, the arch;tect~re is important, but bringing it into
the Dirtet;,~! at the expe_nse of the vfews of the e.xisting neighbors jJJst
cannot be to1erated, so terta1nly, I think the calc~latiDns on height need
to be seriously looked at. My client certainly has looked at the
proposal. The new flat rDof of the propos~ addition shows on the plan to
be three feet ;,;g;,er than the .xlst;ng roof. It i. h;s b.lief that
certainly, a limitation to existing plus three ft~~ 1s fine with him.
That on11, in fact, protect bj, views. Anything above thot, a"y
add!tio~al air conditi~ning units, any support facilitles. any illovance
Df the spine to extend three feet ~~ve existin9 will definitely block his
~iew. It too, have bee~ there. I can -see it, and it will block his
existIng Ylew.
Traffic and circ~lation: All the triffic studies in the world showing an
A-level of servic! at the intersections does not really address the
problem that has been, is and will continue to be the pr~ble~ with this
partlcular site. It is the access, If you looked at the second
paragraph, -The study deterllined that sight d1stance at the exhting
aeceS5 drive is severely limited.· They did not say prob'~atic; they d;~
not see -a little scary." They say. ·severely limited. -SCI wtlether or
not you add one 9 five or SO ne~ cars in tnat parking lot. YOy Cin~ct
change th~ severe limitations on that entrance unless you redestg~ it.
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I alP here to tell you that my client, .... he is He ne.lCt door neighbor and
owns the very ,liInd necessar)' to redesign it is making that offer to the
city and to th~ country club to sit down and worK'out a way to make that
entrance appropriate. No matter ~O~ nice they mak~ this club, no mztter
hew m~ny other good ttilngs tt:E'Y do to it. if the,)' donrt fix the entrance,
they will ~ever eyer reach the tnresho1d that we will address in just a
f'IKIment.
Parking was \i~ry quidly uTcuhted, rf!calcu 1ated, iligreed to and diSagreed
tv. It appears t~at there are 310 spaces. We have ser'ous concerns with
at least f1ve of them. The staff has recommended the remoYil of three.
On the plan, as it exists right now, there is a garbage area tnat is
screened right no. by • wall. The girbage dump .rea is right behind it.
]t is between that wall and my client's view of the club and 1s presently
landscaped. What is h!ing proposed nefe is that the landscaping be taken
out next to that w311 ~nd five parking places be put in. That ~ould not
necessarily be sucn I problem, except fo~ the fact that the five parking
placis are directly adjacent to the housing for th~ employees~ It is not.
and probably cannot be argued, t~at it is ever going to be used by a~ybody
901n9 to the club. It is going to be used as additional parking for the
housing tnat is a1raady there, which is already a ~roblem, as otherwise
cited in the report. So it will Ynfortunately proY1de an opportunfty, not
guaranteed 3nd not saying the folks will do that, but it will certainly
provide an opportunity for some of th! curre~t problems of garbage and
mattresses and things like that to find another h4me next to the dumpster
on their side of the wall versus the dumpster side of the wall.
G~erf1ow parking: If, ir. fact, t~ey are not g~ing to have additional
rentals, and there 1s not going to be any additional use t and certa1~ly.
the redesign of the parkfpg lot 1S going to tak! tare of everything, I
WQ~ld think t~at limiting the use p~nn~t to no ~re than the current,
e~istfng use should not bct~er th~. If they are really, truly saying
they are pot going to haVE increased rentals, they £houlrl ha~e no problem
with that restriction on their use pe~it. like~fs!) in conj~nttion with
that and tne noise and traffic issues, there is the alcohol questio~.
last ~all of 12:15 should perhaps be j2 O'C10CK. Closure of the facility
per~aps ought to be 12:30 a.m. Just down the road in the City of
Sunnyvale, tney are making commercj~l establishmehts on fl Camino Real
have operating use permits that go f~m Friday tnrough Sunday, not t~
exceed 12 Midnight for nofs! and/or alc~hol. So certainly, it is not
something that is a new trend. Jt is a 'Ier,)' conscious trend in a lot of
jurisdictions·very close to nere.
The roof equip~nt:
very well written.
needs up9radin9~
I ~ill let th~ staff report speak for itself. It;s
Tne roof equipment is terrible. It needs work. It
landscaping: With regard to the lar.dscap~ng in the front, I haye a
serious concern, and that is wit~ respect to that entrance again. They
are calling for a 300-foot sight distance. Those of you who have be~n to
tne site (and it sounds like e~erybody has been there) tne entrance, as
you know, the hill comes up on Alexis Or;ve. When you are sitting at t~at
intersection going in tnere, if you cut back some of that landscape berm,
it fs going to accomplish part of your prDblem, but the slope 901n9 d~
the hill is another problem. ]t needs t~ nave greater lccess, and I ~ould
certainly suggest t~lt someone at 12:1~, after last call, going home
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probably does not have quite the acuity as SOmEone comir,g in ~oes to
negotiate that 300 feet, sO there is a public safety re3san to increase
t~at sight 11nt distance. both as you see down the road at a straight l;ne
an4 also d~ the road at an Ingle. That certainly need~ to ~e taken into
consideratiofl4
GOing thi~ugh the findir.gs themselves, I ha~e a serio~s problem with
Finding '1 for a conditional use permit where it s~ys ~in that the
project. as conditioned, w~11 supply all i~crementa'1y re~uir!d parking on
site-whicn 1 don't thfnk it vill if you take away tho~e five spaces4
• .•. iRPro~e the access sight distance for the E~in driveway, reducing the
potentia1 for accidents caused by poor driver visibi1ity.-I just do~'t
think that anything in this report supports that finding. It may b. easy
to boot-strap it tD tnat, but J donlt t~ink anything in previous
ap~lications nor in this application hiS ~one anything to actually
accomplish thit4 The rest of it is not necessarily so probTem!tic.
In the site ind design approval section, I believe the important Pirt
there is that there p.eeds to be a redesign of that roof struct~re. That
15, far and away, the greatest environmental impact, and that is certainly
the loss of the views. As I hav~ stated before, I don't know if there is
any inherent right to block the neighbors' Yie~s.
Going through .nd making tne ch.nges to the Reccmm.ndatlons as we talked
about, perhaps increasfng the sfght distance and doing away with the
distance cilculations4 Improving the roof structure is v@ry 1~ortant,
but I think the bottom lin. here is, they need to h.ve some additional
conditions placed on the ongoing. I f;nd it interesting that one of tk~
stiff people had to come in and modify what appeared to be an omission of
mol"'e than 350 persons for tha spec-ial ev~nts. I think. there needs to be a
limit tQ the private parties. If, in fact. it is true t~at they do not
need any BOre private parties, l@t's find out how ~ny they have and let's
not exceed that for the followi~g y~ars. In conjunction with that, reduce
the ,1cohol, .nd third, and gerhaps problesatlc for staff and Planning
Commissio~, but certai~ly not f~r the public good up there on the h111, ;s
an annual review Df tn~ use permit. Certainly, if you cause it to come
back before you on an an~uil baSiS, Y9U ~n't bave to ~ait for tne next
application to find out that tne good neighbor policies just haven~t
worked again. Or. In annual basis t I think you will find that Dut, ir.
foct, the kind of teeth that Mr. Sch~artzma" was talkIng about is perhaps
a revocation, if those elements have root been addressed. With that t I
will close. Thank you.
Commissio~er Schink: I have i question for the ~peaker. You ~ntioned
that Sal was willing to work with the applicant on tne area next to the
driveway. Could yo~ be more specific? Do you have some fd~as?
Mr. Hurley; The way his land i~ configured there, there is kind of a
funny pOint. It is on a strange access. The planning report is very
succinct in saying that it is i strange. geometrlC access that the entire
lengt~ of Alexis Drive has. Right where the placement of that part1cular
entrance is is directly co"tiguous to his prcperty line, so there is room
tnere for some potential modifications. He certa1n1y reserves the right
to take a. look at theDl4 He certainly doesn't want somebody to come in
there and just carte blanche lop off a 1,rgo portion of hi' land in Qrder
to occOllplish th.t. But certainly, if the design can..be loo~ed it with
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the ide. that his land could be IncorDorated. I personally, from a '~al
point of vie~, even in conjl.lrlction .... it~ the zoning ordinances, etc.,
believe t~at a l~t line adjustment or some sort of trade ther~ can be
ac:compl ished that will greatly enhance the safety of that particular
ingress.
Commissioner Scbjnk; Dc you bav~ any sp~cifics? Are }OU willing to say
that he ~i" move the fence back and reland$c&pe it, or let them move the
fone. ~ack and r.landscape it?
Mr. Hyrlev: [am willing to go so rar is to say that ~ith a chance to
lank it a design. again. if 1 said yes, he will do all these things. and
they cOllIe up with a bizarre des.ign, tf1at .. ould not necessarily be
consistent, but withfn the confines c·f what is there, cer"tainly movement
of the fence, allowing for them to relandscape, certainly, is a
pDssibility. Changing <ome of the .1evitiDns there and the like are all
possibilities for a llIutually satisfactoT.1' !"e-sult on that entrance.
Corrmissioner-Cissel: Would Sal be willing to trim the b'JshfS back tnat
are at th~ end of bis property at the preser.t time?
"to Hurley: Well, this is not Sal's application? but certainly, the
bushes that are there, if he were willing to trade land at that parttcula~
point, would ~ under the control of whoever Dwned those bushes
afterwards. Certainly, the trimmir.g of tnos! busnes would seem to me to
be an automatic, based upon an approved de!fgn.
Copmissior.er Cassel: Sal is one of the peDple complaining about the view
at that corner. Those bushes are part of the proble. witn t~e view at
that corner but they are on his property. They hive no control over those
bushes.
Mr. Hurley; [don't think anybody is part;cularly asking him to be I
partiCipant, other than saying, please cut your b~shes. That is not
really being a participint. That is merely d!ctating to your neighbor
tnat you want him to do s~thing to improve yo~r situation. He is
offering to sit down and go over ft, and like [ say, wit~ the pr~per
desfgn proptriy set forth and negotiated, he is willing to atteapt to
resolve ~at h~ thinks is a very proble~tic situation.
Cpmm'5s1oner 01ak;ln: Have yo~ or your client at a~j time presented t~is
proposa1 to the ippl;cant~ suggesting that tnat little piece of property
~-1 have taken a good look at it Ind ] know wnich section YDU are talking
about. Have you offered that to tne applicant?
Mr. Hurl!l: I have not t and certai~'1 Sal is going to speak to you this
evening, so perhaps you can ask him when be gets up beret
CommissiYner Oiakian: So at least, up to now, it is an idea you have that
could improwe the access to that site. but in no way has that been
presented to the applicant.
Mr. Hurlet: [guess I wDuld have to ask th! question, ~ose
.. spDnsibillty would it be to bring it up? If somebDdy is out there
.. designing and .dding to the use that is presently there and talking
about redesigning the parkfnq lot and taking away some of t~e landscaping,
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etc., it would seem to ~e thit it would be plain crazy of me not to go t~
my ne1ghbor l~d ask t~ incorporate s~me of his land into my desigli, rather
than expecting me, just because I came to the Planning Commission and
iskfd for something that my neighbor would voluntarily come to you. I am
saying, he dOEsn't ~ave to do that. I am bere tonight to tel' you that he
is ~il11~3 to sit down and negotiate that. Right new. ] think h! is
wllHng to Blake a bad situation better under the right circumstances.
Steve Saperstein, 3089 Country Club Court. Pilo Alto: I live on the
corner of Alexis Orive and Country Club Court and directly across from tht
club. I ~;11 try to be brJef. First, J ask tnat you look at • couple of
t~ings. One ls the traffic study. The traffic study .as dene en 0 week
when there ~.re two ,ery large parties up on tne hill. To s,ew tho
mis~nderstanding that I t~i"k we have at times (and I certainlj d~ not
b'~ the designers} b~t tne traffic person who did the study, when] went
to one of the community meetings with the club, I said that it _as
o~e?stated as far is the number of cars that we~e there on a no~al d~
because of tbese t~ large pa~ttes up on the hill not related to the
country club. He said. that makes my case better. I said why, ~nd he
said tnat it was because even with t~it, we are not above level A. [was
nat really concerned with Le~el A. I.~ concerned with tbe ~haracter of
the neIghborhood. If you look at the study on the incre.sed tr.ffic that
this addition might bring. e$sent1ally the percentage diff~rence is not as
muc~ if ~ou look at the increased le~el on a normal day. what theJ
ctinsidered to be normal when there are two parties going Dr.. Ooes this
!lake any sense?'
Essentially. what 1 a= saying is that the percentage increase in traffic,
as it was presented to ~s, was very little~ I think it would be ~re,
given the fact tnat they did not really tlke th.t particular sample over
t~e tl .. of normal traffic. There was greater traffic there when they
took the sample.
I c~rt~in11 would like to see red~cing noise somehow~ One cf the things
would ilS~ YOIl to look at very c~refully is the balcon,y. R1ght n()W, we get
i lot of noise directly from the entrance Df the club~ As you can see,
the entrance to the :1ub is somewhat liKe a ca~ern. As people are walking
cut of there at 12:30 and one o'clock at night a~d they are talking, they
could be talking in a loud voice cr a soft voice. it preje,ts very ~ll
out to ou.r house. which I bel1eve is the closest hl,use, in tht direction,
an~. Certain1y. Sal's house is closer, right on the bDrder ~f the
club, but in the direction that people are walking out, It ls right In our
direction. So if yeu look at .here the balcony is to be built, ther~ is •
wall behind the balcony that would reflect the noise very ,1,e1y in the
direction of CDuntry Club Co~rt right towards our house. s~ I would
strongly urge you to look it the construction of that balcony is perhaps
being ancillary and net really necessary. If smokers want to go outside,
that is fine. i would hope that there is a place that would be supplied
that would not face Country Club Court or Alexis Orive for that particular
purpose. 1 knew this Is sort of late in the game, but on the othEr hand,
that is what this hearing is .11 .bout. I hope you look at that very
careful11~ That is one of the biggest nolse complaints that we ha~e.
The other thlng is that the valet parking restrictiens someti .. s do not
work. What happens is that peeple come out of the elub. and the~ loiter
in the parking lot after 12 o'clock, 12:30, one o'clOCK, and 1 think that
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more usage would ju~t bring more of this on, especially if usage is by
~mbers of the club. Sorneh~w. if Wp could extend ~alet p;rking for all
people who visit the club after a certain time~ perhaps we could reduce
that r.oise. I ~m trying t.c be as constr~ct;v~ is possible in these
things. Certainly. with 5S people behind me, I want to make sure I say
the appropriate things here to make this wcrk. And they are at my back.
too~
The other thing I would like you to look at is ~i5al1owing buses i~ this
particular permit~ J had the wonderfijl experience earl~ one ev!ning in
Oecember on a weekday n;ght~ whe~ there was a very large bus parked in
front of my house for about. half hour. My dog •• s barking the e"tire
time. I went out and asked the bus driver what he was doing there. He
said, I am .aiting hfre until they come back o~t again. I said, no, you
are not. I guess I was not too pleasant abo~t ~t~ be~ause he di1 move,
Ilthough he locked like if he were a little bigger, he might have done
same damage to me. He did take the bus and take it down the hill after
saying that he could not get the bus inta the parKing l~t anrl that is why
he was parked there. 50 1 would urge that you put into the restricti~ns
on this particular ordTnance that buses are not allowed lJP Alexis Drhe
for the purpose of bringing people to the country club. I would really
like to see that in there~ We ~on't need that as an extra traffic
~azard. We donlt need it as an extra ~oise problem.
The landscaping: Two things about that, both iovol'iog the parking lot.
One of the things about this map is tnat it is two-dimensio~al. You
really do not see the height of what is going on here. Essentiaily, there
is a slope t~at starts from the west side and goes to the east dowr.
Country (lijb Ccurt, so the club is ~ather h~gh, compared to our house, and
the park~n9 lot is also higher. What happ~ns is that we get lots of light
s~ining into our second-5tory windows from the parking 1ot. It is
5a.ewhit annoying at 12:30 or 1 a~m. into the bedroOO1s of our house when
we see light coming in. To restrict that, I strongly s"gge,t th.t built
into th~J partfcular proposal, there be some sort of foliage or
1.ndsca9lng that would block this light from coming out of the par.ing lot
and ~ittin9 our hoyse. Again~] wish r could show ~ou the tiered effect
that this has, but essentially, the parking lot is about the same height
as aur secQnd-~tory window.
Also. it 15 so.ewhat of an eyesore to see the parking lot full of cars on
a s~r day. I wo~ld appreciate anything that wo~ld be put into this
prDposal thit WDuld il1~ for ftUch nicer landscaping of the area .long the
border of the pirking lot so that the cars arE not seen as they are right
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The other thing I would like you to consider is thp character of tne
neighborhood. I t~ink we have kept it at a f.irly decent level. The club
has been sa.ewhat cooperatiwe in the past ab~ut keeping tbe cars off the
street) which J found to be quite annoying -men ~e first ~~ed in h~re,
but that SeeDS to have gotten i lot better. In order to ke!p it that .ay,
J would reilly 1ike to see s~me restriction of usage of the cl~b
facilities .nd how things are rented out. I do go .long .it" l.st
spelter. 1 would really lite to s ••• usag. restriction that would be
based on the 1993 u~~ge and not e~ceed that. To me, tnat ~ould be ideal.
be<.u •• I thln~ we could keep the 1 ••• 1 of traffic and the lovel ef nOise
.t I livil we e)pect right now. To a certain extent, I think this is a
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little bit of a Pan~ora's Box. 0pening this up~ what might happ~" {a"d 1
certainly cannot be Sure of tnis and t don1t tnink anyone 1M the club can
be sure of this, as well} is t~at ~ith this new f~(ility, there can be
~re than one party going on at a time, and Essentially, people who are
members of the club can use this facility and will use this facility,
sfn~e it ;$ biggtr and nlc~r, more often than they WGuld in tne past. At
the same timet per!1apE, that an event is going on downstairs or a s.mall
eyent upstairs and a small event downstairs can go on at the same time.
What I r.aily would like to see, to pre,ent this from happening, .t le.st
tha hired cut portico, would be restrictions based on the 1993 usage.
Regard1ng the constr~ction phase of this, one cf the things that scares me
is that tfte list time something wa:; ccnstructcd ilt the club, I was
awakened at 1 o'clock in t~e morning on I weekday by i jackhamm!r4 I did
not .ake note of it as far as cal1jng the police or anyt~ing 11kt that,
t.~ln9 to k~p my good neighbor policy as good as po,slb1. and not •• ntlng
to be called a cr.nk. On the other hand~ wp have s1x montks of this, at
least, and tWQ t~i~gs bother me about that~ O~e is t~e noise. and
certair.ly there are noise ordiroances that have to be adhered to. B~t
also, one of thE things that was happening fn t~e past in variDus
construction projects in aur area is the fact that trucks come up and they
dump all sorts of garbage on the street. In the winter, It " • real
hazard, and in the summer, it is not much nicer. Dirt on the street is
sometning I think should be thought of as what the com.iboer.t Is of the
tlub or the c~nstruct1a~ people will ~e to clean this up~ and also the
usage of a fiirly vindy, narrow, c~rvy, hilly Alexis Drive for large
trucks and constr~'tion crews to get up and down, and whether there will
be any restrictions on that. That somewhat concerns me, given the fact
that I te"d to rid. my bike up ond doom that street and .all my dog up and
down that street. There are no sid~alksJ and it is bad enoug~ someti.es
dodging the passenger cars coming up and down there. I know myself, ~very
once in a ~,11e [ do speed on that street. and I notice that other people
do the same. If there is some sort of restrict tons on t~e number of
trucks coming up during construction, I think that really would help. I
-apprecfate your time. Thank yQ~.
Frank K&11y. 45 Alannah Co~rt. PalQ Alto: I have not~ing to add.
piane BottomS. 310' Alexis Drive. palo Alto; 1 ~iye ~en a Meighbor there
for 13 years, and I want to .a1 that I have found the club to be .n
excellent neighbor. The things that Ly" Slid about the things that they
try t. do are true, not just when they have an application before you. 1
walk ~ dog there everyd.y. The dog is welcome. He even get. a dog
biscuit from the superintendent of greens, whi,h I don't think happens at
.any other clubs. ] have seen them take care of neighbors' problems when
t~ere really wasn't any need for them tQ 9Q to the p.xtremes that theJ dC4
I WQyld also like to t!ll you that fro~ the impr~ssion you might get from
people sayfng the nei9nbors concerns, etc., I have itt~nded all fo~~
meetIngs that we have had since September, and the overwhe1mlnq majority
of tho neig~bors are 'n f.vor of this proposal. They feel tne club is 30
years old; tbat it will enhance the neighborhood to have 1 club that is
brought up to date. The tlub did la,t ye.r spend. great deal of money or.
the landscaping in the front. However. as yo~ have heird, they ire very
w1111n9 to rEdo the landscaplng to meet Mr. Saperstein's concerns. We
have I alce neighborhood, and the aajority of the neighbors are fn favor
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of it. The largest attended meeting .. as the first one. There w-ere four
ne1ghbors who spoke in cppos~tion. and there were p~rhaps 55 ne~ghbors
t~ere. The rest of us were a~~ in favor of th~ project.
Gary Griffith. §S5 Car'. Court. Palo AltQ: I have been a ~mber of Palo
Alto Hills Golf and Country Club and have been for the past elevon years.
I have been through a few ~f these sessions before with the internal
groups it o~r club, and we know how lengthy these sess;Qrs get sometimes,
so I will try to be brief. I would lil<.e to keep tMngs in perspective
here with the council and the commiss1o~. 1 think that in listening to
some Qf the ne1ghb~rs in the past few sessions, I think ~e are somewhat
T05in9 p!rspectfve of what we are asking fOf4 Palo Alto Hills is 1n
eXistence now, and has been. The parking situ.tions, etc., and the
a~tivittes we have there have been there for 30 some years. We are not
talking about changing tnat type of environment within our club because of
thfs addition. Palo Alto Hills is a very liberal and progressive c1ub in
the peninsula, and it is Palo Altu's country club. We have much empathy
for OLIT ne19hhGrs' concerns in the arei., and as lyn Nelson has expressed
before, we do just .bout everything possible to make sure o~r neighbors
are treated fairly and treated with respect and consideratlon. We know
tnat we are sa.etimes a nofsy neighbor.
OUT club has represented very many facilities in Palo Alto in meetings,
etc., and most of you have been there. Most of the peopl~ in Palo Alto
nave, at one time Dr another, ~1stted our club or are members of our
club. W. have. lively membership of people that is u"equalled on the
peninsu1a in cl~b membership. We have one of the first female presidents
of Iny country cl~b in the USA. We have ftany local residents who are
members of the club that are very proud of what we offer to the City of
Palo Alto and to the residents of this area. Once agafn, J think that
what we are ~earing from our neighbors is sonewhat out of perspective, and
] think the real question nere is. ar! we do1ng something that melds in
with tne environment1 If I look at that grapb up there again and at the
architecture, 1 aust question our .a~tnpiece back here a 1ittle bit. [do
not knew how he became ~n expert on archftecture~ but] look at a small
addition to a clyb that is about the size of a half a~ inch en a scale of
whctel"er, and r just cannot imagine how he cal"! be such an opinionated
persv~ and say that it is causing damage to neighbors in the area. He has
h1S opinion. and [ nave mir.e, and '11& ue do1ng everything 'We can to bl~nd
tnis thing in.
I think our neig~bors are extremely happy with the progress that
Palo Alto Hills has made over the psst ten years. Years ago, this club
was not i ffnancially secure club. It wcs not capable of upgrading
ftself, and it has chinged over the last ten years. Our membership values
have i"creasedi the club has in'vested hundreds of thousands elf dollars
upgriding our facil;ty~ increasing the value of the neighboring
properties. When our one neighbor a5k~, does this add to valUE of hls
property, [ can only say, absolutely yes. Anything we do to our club to
enhance the physical presence of the club to .ake it appear better and
.are attractive to future ~bers of ~a'o Alto corporations, etc., it does
add value to their p~Dperty. Tnat is one of the reasons we are happy to
be able to f1nanc1ally fund this on our own. I.!e iH'e-a very solvent
corporation. We are a for-profit corporation, but W! are capabie of
aaking these iraprovements, and I th1i'-.j( that will onlyenha:'1ce Palo Alto
and its r.eighboring areas~ Please keep things in perspective,
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John S~it~son. 1]51 ShenandQah Drive. eJl0 Alto: J am i director of the
club, and 1 nave been i member the~e for 22 years; I ~ould like to tell
you a little bit about what r have been doing for the past three yea~s.
was chairman of the house committee, ana then ] became chairman of t~e
building committee, and now 1 am the board liaison to the building
(ommittee. So I am familiar ~ith this job from the ~ery beginning.
There was a questi~n previo~sly about the design of the spine.
Originally, 'arrasco came up with a skylight, and we said no, we cannot
have a skylight. That is going t~ s~ine into the adjacent houses. ~o we
are c(Jnce-rn.1MJ abcut whl!t happens there as far as the-light coming OlJt at
night~ Our committee ar~ all professionals on the building co~ittee~
Bill Kadl~, Madlem Plumbin~, is one of the members. frank K~llYr
formerly wIt' Rudolph and Sletten, is one of the members, and t'e rest are
profe!sionals fn either the building irides or d~signw;se. It has been a
pleasure to work witk them f~r t~~ last three years. The committee ~as
only changed by one pe-rson. We feei that we h~VE organ~zed the best
design team that we eQuid for this particular job. Carrasco l Associates,
DPR Construction. Karen Buteri, Inc., the interior design firm, and lyn~
Winterbotham~ aur llr~scape architect. OUr ~im is to please our aemters,
of cours., by bringing this 33-ye.r-old building up to QualIty level for
today. It is a1 so to give the neighbors a more plea.sfrl9 view of cur
property and to have the City of Pala Alto consfder us an asset to the
ca.munity, which we believe we are, but we would like to maintain that
asset t~ a standard which has not been held for tne past few years.
The landscaping in front needs werk. It needs a lot of work, but as you
can see, we have spent SOle money f" t~e past on it. For the last three
years, I h.ve been aware of the trash proble. and the parking problem.
Believe me, we have pro~ibited any parking in front of the club far the
past three years, at least. There is a regular trash patrol, as Lyn told
you. J drive up there four days a week, at least, and I a. very aware,
when I COIle up to ttle club, irs to whether OiJr man in charge of the
landscaping in front and the trash patrol has done his job for the day.
The conference rooms that were ~ntioned --there Is one downstairs, and
It seats ten~ ! believe. The one upstairs seats 12. We-need conference
rooms. We need a board room. We do ~ot haye a board room currently. We
meet ~p in the grill. We need committee rooms, because this 1s a
conoittee-run club. So that is whY those are there. The loning
Administrator is very fa-iliar with our job t to answer one Df the
questions, since she was involved with the Planning Commission before. I
feel that the balcony that we h.,e there is more sheltered than having the
Members stroll out the front entrance for a smoke, since we do prohibit
sDOking 1n Q~T building tnese days. So they haVE t~ go outsfde to sDO~e.
Providing an adjacent place, a very s~'l place, as you beard (it only
h~lds three tables). would aileviate acre noise t~an coming Q~t in the
front drivew~ ur at the front entrance.
As far as tn~ construction time, trash and work ttmes, our contractors a~
responsible for Ih.t_ ! think th.y have .dhered to .11 of the ordinance.
fro the City, as far as operations are concerned during t1aes of
operation. There was one exception, but we got police permission to work
on the dining reo. two years ago at a special ti~ because of a special
problem. AQiin, thank you, and we are lOOKing forward tD your approval of
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our const:ucticn p~o9ram, Tnank ~ou wery mueh.
Jill Nelson. 3030 Country Club Court. Pa]'J Altu : . I would like to make a
few r~arks. 1 have been a neighbor of tne club sine! 1980, so we have
been In the neighborhood for 14 y •• rs. I would li'e to say that I thin.
the c'~b has been really an e~ctllent neighbor. r find tr.e club to be a
rea] asset to the community, to the local community, byt also to
Palo Alto. The club hiS re.lly bent over backwards to listen to the
concerns of the neignbors. r, like Diane Bottoms~ attended ill four of
the fE'tent neetings. Back when ttle c1 ub original1y proposed an expansion
two or tbree years age, I also attended some of thos! meetings. it;s
i~orta~t for you to ~nderstand that tne ciub rea"1 has attem~ted to
reach i comprol!lise solution nere. It is not that a1' of the nefghbors
have been in total agreement with everything, but tnere is very, vfry
strong support in the nelghborhGod, ind there is i very strong, vocal
minority. There are two or three people who, gOing back fou~ or five
years, have fought the club it every turn and have opposed every action
that the club bas proposed. I think t~at is gofng to be one of the tough
choices be:fc)l-e-Y{J1l that you have a compromi!e so1ution here. It is. a
solution that I fe.l comfortable with, and I think the najority of the
nei9~bors feel c~fortaDl~ with, and we are certainly ~opin9 that you can
find. way t. support the propos.l.
The club is an i~ortant asset to the laca1 c~nity. Part of the reason whY we bought our ~ome in the area was because the club ~a5 there. am
conc.rned that the (lub needs to be improved. Over the years, it has not
~.d • lot of imprevement. Actually, tne facility ~a. deteriorated
somewhat. In recent ti ... , they h ••• tried to improve it. This
impro, ... nt that \s before you .ill help significantly. I also think it
is Important for yO" to realize that the club is set back significantly
fro. the neighbors and significantly from the street. I dan't feel that
the Improvements that are being proposed in any way are going to be
detrimental to tbe surrounding lesthettcs of the neighborhood. In fact,
think they are going to greatlY en~ance the aesthetics and in the final
analysis, improve the property ~alues. Yes. there is traTftc. Yes, the
club has parties, but 'We~· is neighbors, also have parties, and we c7ei.h
traffic and we create noise in the neighborhood ind we have to put up with
that. That is just part of life. So in su~arYI I wculd like to say that
J, personally, and I kn~~ t~at most of the neighbors do suppgrt the design
that i. before you;--I feel that the .pine is an important part of t'.
club proposal, because it will help the interior of the club. Some people
h~Ye atte~ted tQ .inimize the i~ortance of tnat, but it is important.
The club is dark on the inside. Any facility lik~ this needs an important
sense Df entry so that people feel comfortable when they COle in. The
architett has worked hard to lower tne height of the spine, and r think
that from an aesthetit point of vfew. it ~il1 greatly enhanc~ the
appearance of the club and h!lp the ~v!rall feeling, both ~s you ipproich
the club and when YOij a~ inside. So 1 see the imprDvements IS being
significant. both fr~ a facility point of view, fr~~ I beautifjcation
point of view, ind they are bending over backwards to improv~ the parking
lot. It has needed it very much for a numbtr of ye,rs, and .1so to
lapr ••• the la.dscoping .'ong the street. S. 1 ~ould like to let you know
tnat we are strong supporter. of t~e prop ••• l before you. Thank yO" very
II1Jcn.
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make i j~mp w~en one year ago, you were just the op~osite. Tr.e country
club is such l good neighbor. The 13st time they ~fre turned do-n, tke
next day they pulled out .11 the plants that th.y had planted .long my
fence. I said, what happened? The:; said. the frost killed them~ This is
the good neighbor_
I don't even know ~er. to start here. First of .11, this time theJ ar<
more prepared. (unclear c~nts) The~ picked sonebody from the Planning
Ca.miss1~n. ] am sorry I 1m talkir.g like tn1s, but J am mad" What the~
wlnt t~ do is going to make ~ wife Sick, ar.d I wo~ld just nave to move
out of there_ (applause) So I don'! know where to start with these
people. They $1$, let's start at the first meeting wnere they taiked
about befng good ~e1ghbors. It was six months ago when ~e started. Some
of the people on t~e board said, we want to introduce you to the guy who
is gotng to be the president. He starts next week. This guy is not like
the other one. This guy really listens to people, and he has a store on
Universit.y .~ye!1ura. He lives in Palo Alt(l, and he rnlly cares. Thi s guy
is gOing to 'WD_rk with you. r "ever met hi:m~ ] have never seen him
since~ This is the guy who never contatted me. [don't even know who he
is. He was introduced to he, and he said, he was going t~ take care of
things, ind I ~ever saw him. we had the four meetings. At ever1 meeting,
as I sold, they wer. prepared. They have the PR guy who tries to tell you
what you can say, ~at you cannot say. What happe"ed to all of our
concerns? Nothf~g ,has changed. Ther~ has not been a drop of change. So
where is the sensitivlty to ot~er ~eople? The only thing that has c~anged
is the landscaping. Th~y know it is a jote. Yes, we triaaed this: and
cut that, but what Is tnis1 Tn1s is not i CDncern. As far as ] am
conce .. ed, it look. like a hospital. Everyone I talked to and showed them
the pl.ns .ays it looks like a hospital. Too .-eh 910SS, too high, that
lS not i country club. ! don't e~en know what tc say. Now tney Ire
saying they will do whatever they can for the neighborhood. In
$~1Dmertize, we III cut th~ grass, betlUSe of flre. They don't. They
dQn~t cut the grass next to tnem. We ~i~e to tall the fire department.
Th. fire departaent cites ~hem, and the next day, they cut the gra.,. W.
neV!r reach th.t po!nt. This is • good neighbor?
The peo~le who work Bnd live nExt door to me, ] ha~E ~een teliir~ them,
fix that bunding. You can hear th ... yelHng. They put plywood out to.re
and stick S~ black tar on top. When it Ti1r.s, r can heaT them
screaming, water, water. The people ha~e no place to stay. 1hey have no
place to do lnythinq there. We have ".n telling them, tlke care of those
people. Make it oiee there. They have ne .. r done anything. How they are
talking about keep!ng it cle.n. They have no place to go. They stay en
top of th. roof and drink beer there. I call them, and the next day they
collect the cans. This is only 20 feet a~ay fro. De. I should not have
to lh'e viti"! thh. Also, there is no place for th~"" to thTOW away their
garbage. I have tc call them. There are mattresses and old chairs right
next to my fence. Then tney come and pick tn~ up. This is t~e thing ]
live with .11 tne time. 1 like to see a olce club. Ve .11 like to se ••
nice club. They sn~uld be sens1tilt.'e to their 7Il!'fghbors. They should tlave
cons ident lor •.
TniS spin. that they are proposing is only for 1ignt for them. For me, it
1S that I ~ive lO$t the view of San Frantisco. is this fair? [never
tnought about .11 the land (unclear) get the view. For the', it is only
light. Now when 1 look to~ards San francisco, .11 I will see is just the
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glass. They said they will put in shad~s. What h~~pen$ if they forget tc
close them or t~e thing does~'t work? Do I ~all t~e tit)? Do ~ call the
police?
Tony Carrasco promised me it Wat going t.., be tdxen out. He 'Jofas sup!'osed
to meet wit~ me this Thursday and make an agreement that if I go alcng
with the project, that thing will be taken out. It hiS not been t.ken
out. They are gofng to try for the ~~o1e thing. Unless they are forced,
they are not going tQ di1 anything themsehes. I am willing to compromise
and they can do the addition, as long as they do just what the staff
report says. If tr.:ey 90 a10ng with the stiff report, I 'na'Je 1'10 prcbl em.
The other thing will be, and I think that is the re.son they did it. They
did it j1Jst ta trap me for the biggest problem e'''er, which is the access,
the tT~ffic, the garbage, drinking after midnight, the people wanderi~
around. That is the problem we ii~e witk. Now they complain .bout noise
of the neighbors. I am only 20 feet f,'om them. The big t,,,h truck. ar.
only LO feet away from Me when they 10.d and unload those tnings once or
t~ic~ i day. I never complain and I am living with t~is thing. B~t to
take ~y view is'unreal.
Another thing. ] have passed around a picture of what they want to do.
That picture does not really aean anything. If y~u lOOK at that, that is
what I see. I see the building and 1 see the little patch of landscapIng
there. T~ey ~ant tc put in five parking spaces there. Do you k~ow ~ho is
going to park there? It will be the people who ll,e there. Do you know
what kind of cars that will be? Just Dld cars. Tbose people don't have
any .. ney. It is .11 gOing to be 20 feet away from ~ hou'e. No way are
members going to park over there. T~at is the only pfete of landscaping !
ha~e between me and the club. and they W~"t to put 1M parking. I thought
the least they could de is to put in some ivy O~ somethi~g along that
wall. ~ whole house faces toward that side. We see that wall day and
~i9ht. The least they could have done is to put fn some ivy. not anything
expensive. They planted trees all along th~ fence. They went to the
expense of putting in irrigitio~. They ~nt to all that expe~se. and
every year, they die, and they replant again. They did it again last
~k. Tner·e are new pl ants again. They are not going to list. Thi s is
not being a 9~od neighbor. Why don1t they do something that lasts? W~y
donft th~y do something decent? They have never done that. If tney can
1 ive with that .ddition, they shew the height. There are ..... fl.g.. Th.
flags are on1y one foot higher than the ex1sti~g building. If they can
l •• ve that height of th~ addition higher than the front, I can lIve with
that. I know that by the time they Ire through with the pl.ns, it wi}l be
three f~et, five feet. six feet. So I would like somebody to go and
measure there and wherever they put the flag$~ that is where tne addition
s~ould be. But they should definitely remove the .pine and the
firepl.ce. Th.tflreplace will be just exactly in the middle of my viow e
It is the only thing my wife sees from the ~1tchen. Is there a picture of
the neight of the addition and a picture of the height of my hous~ so I
can show you what I mean? Could r se! the picture [ saw before, sQmething
the spine? There is I page in tne plans t~at shows it. This is taken
higher. but MY kitc~en window is parallel to the height of t~e roof, so
anything over that is abo~e me. r can't see throug~ it. This picture is
.islead1ng betause you see from the top and away. 00 you have any
pictures Qf the side of my bouse. the scuth el~vation?
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All the pictures sholW looking hfgner. so it locks 1 ike ;t doesr,'t make any
differ~nc.e. Thh Is from up high. (Mr. Gio'Vanotto le~..,E's the microphone
~nd speaks from the plans on the wall)
We were talking about the ~ntranCE and being a good r,2ighbor. There ~as a
question raised about tri~i~g the hushes. Ves, I did authorize them to
trim the ~shes • long tl .. ago, and they ~eep doing 1t. So .11 ~y ~ush.s
are eight f~et high. The one that could bt in their W3Y ls now two feet
high. I allowed them to do that. long time ago. They have ~en doing It
for two or three y,ars. But that is not the problem. The problem is bad
access. [know Jon is going to pester ~ with ail kinds of questions, and
1 wi n be glad to .ns~r.
CQmm1s?1p~er Sch1~k: Yes, J was hoping we cou1d get ~omething a little
more concrete thar. your saying you would be happy to cooperate with them.
Mr, $jDy,nQttfi: Absolutely~
Commissjoner Schink: Maybe I don't completely ~nderstand, but in looking
zt the pictur~ here from your deck down tnto your Yird~ it ~uld seem tnat
if you were willing to perhaps re10cate your fence back and re-ove some of
the cactus, that would improve visibility at the entranc!. If tn~y were
willing to work wit' you on th.t, would you be willing to do thatl
Hr. 5i ••• ,ott.: Ab.olut~ly. 1 .lway. t.ld thom t~.t , ~ul; d. that. 1
~1'l even trade the llnd~ We all live on one-acre miniGUn lots. I have
one acre so I do not have the abi1ity to give a piece of land. I was
willing to take 400 feet t whatever they need. and trade for s~ other
place so I can still have my acre and .ake I beautif~l entrance. [would
be glad to do tnot. I will be glad to cut down the fence. [w!ll be glad
to do .11 kinds of things. But th.~ have to be good n~19hbors, too. Wh.t
they are doing with that spine !s really off.nsive. ~ Wife is .1ck,
because that ,s w~ere she spends all of her tf~. [a. sure .cst of yo~
CaMe out of the kitehen. From sy hnus!t you can see ~oth1ng. It i$ going
to be a reminder of what the system can do. It is just terrible.
Barbara Peerkop. 2944 Alexj$ Drive. Palo A1to: I live below the club, and
have l1'Jed there far .almost 20 years. So I get e\lery~y's traffic 9cring
up and duwn. 1 ~Duld like tD Isk that the landscaper take particular "ate
of ~k1ng a forest up there, becaUSE it seems to ~ that WQuld be an
attractive nuisance fo~ people lurk1ng and coming by. 1 don't know .mat
be plans to do, but it sounded like he pl.nned to do whatever that woul~
be really awfUl .nd people could , ... and hide and play their game. after
everybody is out of t~e thing. T would remind eyer~cne that Alexis Orive
I •• publl0 road. Bus.s can go up and down it if they want to. When I do
live on a public raad, I don't like to have people ~ay no one should ride
up and dawn it. That means th~y could block ~ from goinq otheY places,
too. I might 5uggest blackout blinds for tne bedroGms so the lights don't
cooe through. If 1 read the paper ~orrectlJ, I just paId ~ney to ~.ve
the utilities put in somebody's ho~se that is inc~·producing p~perty.
I thlnk it is Sal's, and I didn't get l chanc2 to vote an t~at, SQ S~l,
please don't block everythin9 that COMeS up. This is four years. I am
tired of going to .. et;ngs.
Tony KozYt 2lS francis Avenue, lqs Altos: I hlye been a member of
P.lo Alto Hills for ten or e1eve, years now. I .. currently on the board
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of directors there, and I w~uld really like to compliment Salon a great
design that ht did with his house. If you look at Sa1's house, he has the
high ground t~er., and he absolutely took the best adv.ntage by fae;ng it
~o th~t ~e can 'Gol from San Jose 111 t~~ way to San franel~CQ. Al~o.
~en ~e faced it out on the go1f courSE, he took maximum use of his lot
a~~ gets tremendous views from ill ar~.s. He ta1ks about losing San
~rancisco. He does not lose San Francisco, he loses the sight of the salt
plle down there at R~dwood Snores. ThanK you~
Hide TaniganaL 31n Alexi 5 Drive, Pilp Alto: I purc~ued my home about a
year-and-a-h.lf age. [ogro. wit' Diane Bottom, that most of the
neighbors a9~ for P.l. Alto ~ills ~olf ind Country Club to do the
remodeling. They are abs.lut.ly ,'ery good neighbors. One thing that some
of the people wno are Cl.9airlst th1s 'I!IentiDned is that the 'Value of the
property is going down. But beeau.! of the Palo Alto Hills Gol' and
C~untry C1ub, I purchastd the property. Just recently, I had an appraisal
.ade on my house to refinance it, and the report Just rtcei~ed said that
du, to the Pal. Alt. Hills Golf and Country Club, that is a big plus for
our property.
C~iirDerson Schmjdt: Seeing ~o ether sptlker$,
portion of the hearing and bring it baok to t~e
Gue.!tions from the (omission for the staff?
will close the public
commission~ Are there
Ca,.issioner Beecham: This may be ! question for th~ applicant~ I would
like t~ understlnd mare about the tour bus situation. We have heard
caaments about tour buses coming up. l would lfk! to find o~t tnat if
t~at is so> what do they come for, what functions de they come for, at
what freqL:ency do they come, and do you have al1Y reconmendations on how to
take care of probTe=s they ~y cause~
Ms. Nelson; We probably have six to eight COQIercial buses per year that
use th~ club as i destination. We have a situation wher2 Qn~ of our
.embers is in'll"olved fn t~t travel industry, and 1ncorpoNIted as part of
the tour bet~en the Filoli MansiDn and Stanford Shopping Center was a
stopoff for the qroup to have lunc~ It the club. That ~casion happened
three times in a month, so it was relatively frequ!nt. Tnat was a
one-time OCCUrren(e where we had that situQtion. T~e other s;tuatiD~ thit
nne of the gentlemen spoke to, Corn,sk l Carey Re~l E~tate h~d a party at
the elu~. In l'eu ~f having the. drfnking and drtY1~g, from what I
understand. they contract~d a bus to transport their employees back and
forth.
C9@Atssfoner Bt,eham: So if I understand ttl for the several that came as
part of the tr~vel tour, you are not gOi"9 to ,ontinue tnat?
~. MelsDn: We hav~ nothing sc~edu1ed for that this ~ear_ During the
r.eighborhood meetin9s, we disc~ssed that it would be between six to eight
ti~s a year. That was the frequency. We did not feel, at the
~eignborhood .eetiHg process, that that was 50 such that it needed to be
curtailed.
Commissioner Beecham: When the buses come up, where do they turn around?
Ms. Nelsgn: In tne club parkin9 lDt, the $Ime as the school buses do.
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COITI'IIiHioM:T 8e1!'ci1am: So th~y car. get into the cl LJb park.ing lot?
Ms. Nelson: Yes l the school b~ses use it is I; turnaround pileI!' twice a
day.
Comniss'Qn~r Beecham: When t~ey do CGme, d~ they park ~~~ stay in the
club parking lot Dr do they park on the s.trEet?
Ms. Nelson: ~egardi~g this situatfun that Mr. Saperstein spoke of where
they .vi~ently parked in front of his house. They are not encouraged to
do that, and [ do not k.now why tn! vehicle could not have come into the
club parking lot and Y$e that as a turnar0und.
Commjssioner Oilkiin: I believe this is for Hr. Klages. I want to ~ke
sure J have a hindle on this froa the applicant's side. We have heard I
lot of people speak, but r .. not sure r heard anybody dlsagre. ~ith
anything in the staff report except for one item.
"~. Klaaes: The one item is the one t~at we hIve seen. We wou1d like to
save the fireplace, beca~se is you come fn from the entrance, t~ have a
beautfful fireplace is 1n~lt'~' rt ~kes I very interesting place for I
lobby, and then partfcu1ariy ~pstairs 1n the clubroom for the members.
~ere we plan to bave low lighting and some dining up t~ere for
Ieabersh1p. To hav! a ~fce fireplace in the wintertime close to the bar
would Ra~e a very warm and inviting setting. That is something ~ would
ltke very auch to keep. if it is possible to do so, if we could work with
staff and with the ARB to see that thit is accomplished. So.that is the
aajor issue.
tQl!1ssfoner QjIKia~: So I a. reading you right. We baye that one issue.
and that is it from the ~pp'iclnt/s side?
Hr. Klages: J would defer t. linda, beoluse she is closer to that report
and whether the staff has said ,"ything about the central spine th,t goes
down and gives us a center to t~e building and creates light is you go
down through the whole center section. Did they address that, linda?
"s~ Ludden: They ~sked ~5 to study that.
Hr, Klages: We are wfll!ng t. do different designs and different ~aiS of
solving that problem, so that is not a problem.
Coopi,sion,r B.~; A lot has been .lld about the difficulty of exiting
fro. the parking lot and the dar.ger there. Ooes staff have any record or
any kind Df accident log fDr that location?
Ms. Irt11: My reco11ectio" is that at the time of the last hearlng, we
did ~ay. a report. J would "eed to take a zoo~nt to look back through the
record of the previous he.ring. r would like to sp •• k to that issue anG
one other t~at was raised by Mr~ Hur1ey. the ittorney representing
Mr. Giovanotto. H. mad. three points which staft ,,"uld 11k. to ~spond
to. The first was that h. felt that the first finding for I variance was
not,supported. fn his opinion. One aspect of t~e finding was that all
parking that ~as required had been provided in the application. J WDu1d
like to mention t~at on Page 6, Paragraph 3 of the staff report. that is
discussed ar~ supported.
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He also said that the finding that access and sight distance were improved
lIIitS not supported. I would 1 ike to mention tr.at on PiiIIges 5 and 6 of tne
staff report, that issu~ is discuss~ i~ th~ last p3ragraph on page 5 and
the first paragraph, Page 6, and in Cond!t1ons A4, 5 and 5 on Page 11 and
in Condition C] on Pag~ )1. W~ have i)SO fYrt~cr ~ddressed ;t~ ilnd the
fir.ding reads ·Tr.e project as conditioned" so I would referenc~ those
ccnditions.
Bob would like to tal k. about i COl1cei"r'i Ti'ised atxJut the height of the
bu~ldin9 in relation to existing gride.
Mr. Schubgrt: Recently. I met with t~e contractor at the s1te to check
tne accuracy of the elevations as shown on ttle plans. WI! found that the
existing grade, used as a point of reference on the e1evations, is
accurate. Alsc, t~e existing huilding height, as shown on tn2 plans. was
accurite. We went up on the roof and ~asured it. While we were ~p
there, we also rueasured the structures and banners that had been placed on
the roof to represent the proposed b~ildi.19 height. Those are .. 1so
iCcuritely shown.
Commissioner Beecharn: rn terms of that accuracy~ a comment was made about
the height being Gade t. half the .10pe of the pitched roof. r a •• ume
that What they have up there Is to the peak of what they anticipate
putting up, and not to the half,,"ay paint. h that correct?
~it.Y.J2.tr1: There are two measurements shown on tfte: plarjs. There is
one shown to the ~1dpo;nt of the roof. We verified that one whe~ we were
up there. That is 25 feet. Then it i. 29 feet to the peak of the roof.
Commissioner Begcham: And the metal fr~ that they haVE up there is to
Whot heigllt?
~~: It is seven feet above the existing b.ilding height, Which
is what is shawn on the plans.
Ms. Lytle~ I can come back to the question that was isked about
acc;der,ts. On February 22, 199], Page 4, serond paragraph, TraffiC, -The
entrance is documented to have i visibility pr~b1em in the traffic
analysis supplied by the applioant prepared by J. H. King and Associates.
Heighboring residents have historically ,o.pliined about the hazard at
t~is driveway, ~hfch the residents of the area feel 11 made worse since
the use of &tcohcl is common at special events that take place at the
club~ The police department docw;ents that t~ree non-injury accidents
have been reported .ince 1984.' So bat .. en the 1984-1991 period, three
nDn-inj~ry accidents occurred, all of which occurred since 1987_ -Two of
the accfde~ts ;n~olyed only one veh~cle. while one accident involved three
vehicles. While the proble. with the dr~veway is an existing sjt~ationt
the proposed project will not produce a significant safety impact. The
fntonven1ence to otn~r users of A'~xis Dr1v! and the potential incidence
of accidents along Alexis will be lncreased by the proposed club e~pans;o~
and will result in increased traffi,." So there were some accidents it
that time. We have not contacted police recently. r don't think It was
felt to be z significant safety issue t but clearly, one that is documented
and well recorded through tne use permit proceedings we ~ave had.
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CQII?issioner Qtakian~ Sob, you are talking about the site in reiaticnstdp
to being on it, and the height of the butldin9~ D1d you or anyone on the
staff go tnrough the area, looking from various resjd2nt~a] SitES to
determ1ne how their views would Qr might bE restricted? !r. essentt, hav~
you done i site Yisit at any of t~e residential sites in the area to
dehntine what thi!' effect of the bl.riTding height wou1d be on the'll!
Mr, $chubtrt! Yes. I a150 went to Mr, Siovanotto's r!sidence, which )$
the closest one. i met .ith him and took photogr.phs from his property.
The cle.r story element of the addition does block vi ... tow.rds San
Francisco. Depending ~pon whe~ you are on his property, there are
porti9ns of t~ view af San Francisco that Ire blocked from his property.
It depends on where you are at. If you go o~t towards ~1s dec~, it does
not bloct the 'View of Sin Franc~sc.o. bet:.ause it 15 fr<lm I different angle,
but fro. portion, of the first floor inside his house, It does.
Commissipner 01a~!ln: I ~ou1d canfin. that, si~ce I have 1150 been an his
property arKS h.·fle been in var;alJ$ spots on it. and SOmg of the vietw W<luld
be blocked out from c~rtaln parts. How about any of the other r~sjdential
prOtrert~es?
Mr S{hubert: I did not get on any of t~oset but Bre~da Giliarde was
work1ng on this before me, and I bel;e~e she did. She is the ane who
wrote the staff report. [personally did not go to an~ other praperties.
Mr. talonne: I believe the commission has asked a couple of questfons
directed to either Hr. Kl.ges or Ms. Ludden or botn, focusing on the first
sentence of Condition A(i), 'The applicant sh.ll ~esign tn. central roof
, spine' "lettent so that no scenic, 'Views are blocked frOll adjactrtt existfng
residences,-The applicant's responses have been real', amb~guous in
terms af whether or not they are iccepti~g a condition that they wili not
block any scenic vlows. So I think tne ccamisslon ought to clarify th.t.
Tne second co~cern 15 that frankly, that first sentence is ambiguous as
written, in t~at one person's salt pile 1S another person's scenic v~ew.
I t~ink the commiSSion ought to consider tighten~nq that language to avoid
a~y misunderstanding for the ~pplicant and neighbors.
ChairpersDn Schmidt! In tne precommi$$ion meeting t~ we~~s IgO, you had
~ntioned 1nfo~at;on regarding sce~t( easements or la,( of sc~nic
easements up in that area. I wonder if you would repeat that for ~S.
Mr~ Calonne: My recollection fs that the question _as whether ttaere was
Iny property right in this view. Tne state of thought gene •• lly Is no,
there is not a separate property right 1n the vfew. That does not aean
that our Qrdinance does not require the commission to consider and tike
steps to protect It. It silliply means thiat there hn't i fina property
right there.
Commissioner Cassel: In the ordinance. there has been no inteGt, I
presume, to not block any scenic view. In other words, if we put up any
buildings out there that block any scenic 'View, to Me, that seems a little
unreasonable. [s t~at not true? There is no intent in thit ordinance to
prevent any building that would block any scenic 'lew, is there?
~r. Cilonne: I beliewe your assumption is correct. Mr~ Hurley was
arguing that the OS zone somehow precluded any vi.w bloc'age. Thlt Is not
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our position.
tqmm1ssioner Ojakja~; fn terms of the right to park on the street, do~s
the club have a right to USf the parking on the street frontage tnere, and
if so, how far up or how far back? Is there anything that prohibits them
froc using it?
Ms. lytle; We are gGing to lo~k up in current conditions to see jf there
is a pronibitive condition about parking on the street~ benerally, 1f
there isn/t s~thir.g in the use penait prohibiting them f~ dOing that,
they have the right. HOW1!ver, in thh. instance~ the previo:Js dh"ection
given to tne country club at the la~t hearing by the c~;55io~ was that
they ret~rn to work on iS5u!s of concern to the neighbors. One of the
pr1.ary issues of concern at that hearing was t~at Alexis Driye is a
narrow, rural stand~rd and the traffic issues of that winding, rural
5it~ation iTe exacerbated by club parking on the street. What we have
heard tonfght is test;mQny from tne club that they nay! gone tG great
lengths to uonltor that. When there is on-street parkfng, th~y have
checked to see who was doing it and have tried to modify their behavior in
response to t~at, sf:'lce it had been I very iarge issue the last time
around.
Commjssjpner Qjak'~D: I will tell yo~ what I am gatting at. One of the
things I found interesting, in looKing at some of the conditions yo~ have
put into this use permit~ is tnat for events~ we ha~e put in a number that
is a cellar nUBber. Typtcaily. wnat 1 h~ve seer. us do in th~ past is to
put ~ cap on t~! size of usage, so that it cannot be used beyond a certain
nu.ber of peop'e~ Why dfd that not occur here? What we have said is that
tnere could be 12 events, and they could be in exce~$ of 350 people~ The
assu.ption I ~ .. king 1s that the onll tning that puts. cap on .h,t the
maxfmU8 would be 1S th~ parking on site and any other parking that is
ayailable to them. Or, being brought up by bus load, the size of the
building would somehow restrict that n~er~
Ms. lytle: This type Df condition has been used before. I know it was
~sed in the Gamble Garden Center use permit. What it is attempti~ to do
is to net get at events that can acc~~date n~rMal traffic, byt to get at
those events that happen infrequently, ~aybe once a month. that might have
! bfgger impact than normal t to lttit th~. Not normal, everyday use, but
to limit larger events~ That is the pofnt of it. We haye applied it 1~
instances where that hiS bee" an issue. There were some c~ureh use
pel"'lllits wnere we used this.
Comahshmel' Oiakian: That takes (are of larger events, but it does not
ptlt a cap on the size of that e"ient when it does occur We kave done that
in SOlIE' other .s"ituations iF! thi! past~ where we ha.ve put on a cap t~at said
the~ could not exceed a ce~ta1n number of people~ 1s there some reason
why we did not do tnat or suggest that here?
Ms. LytJ§: ] don'! think th~t was sc ~uch the iss~e that we were
helring. What we were hearing was that :t was just a norrible crDWd~
Tney don't want t~e frequency Qf thes~. fn fatt, what we heard tonight in
testi.any was tn,t IZ eyents .ere too .any. They would like to see that
1 ]!lIited.
Commiisioner Djakian: So It is based on what people in the neighborhood
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Ms. Lytle: Right, I t~lnk it is generally in re$po~se. It is I good
neighbor type of condition to try and 1\Dit the intensity of uses a$ it
impacts surrounding properties.
Comm;ssioner Q1ak1an: So does the same thing apply to th~lr being n~
restrictions on th~ hours, in ess~nce?
Ms. lytle: Again, we .il1 limit hours when we find it 1s an issue~
qenerll1y~ and not be conc!rned about it if it is not. Jf it Is
self-li.iting, it does not need t. b •• part of the g~od neighbor
prGgram. We try and do as few of these is we can~ and allaw people to
s'!Ilve their own problems. Eyery condtt1on you place on an eTltit1ement
throughout the city is something where the government I, getting
involved. Th~t can go to such an extreme that I literllly get calls from
people to tell their neighbors to ""' .• their lawn. I hi.e to explain that
it is much easier for you to walk out your d~or and talk to that person.
We have to r~tra1n people 2S to wh~t the government's role is. So our
intent is not t~ get involved where we a~ not needed, b~t instead, only
intervene when we are needed in these kinds of s1tuations.
CogaJsslqnrr Q1akian: This is a question for Hancy or Julia ~iser. In
te~s of the conditions we put in here. are we comfortable that we've got,
in teros of iccessing the property, the Site being able to see 300 feet?
[s t~at a comfortable distanc! so that we haye created an environment that
is i01ng to be vehlcu1arly safe? rhat is a question for either of you.
Hs. Maser: I cannot c~nt on that, Vic. I a. not I traffi( engineer~
It did not come up In our discussion at the Architectural REview Board We
heard that there are access and egress problems, ind we, is part of our
stlteaents, asked that those be resolved. But we did not offer any
suggestions as to how that would tike place.
Commissioner Ojjkiac; So Kancy, from y~ur end, _h~t is the benefit if. in
fact, a private ~qreeaent 1$ worked out, such as the Qn~ suggested
tonight. Wnat does that do to igprove the condlt~on?
Ms_ lytle: I think it would allow you to get a better angle on the
entrance. If they have. little more room, they could actually .ake a 90·
angle It that entrance. They would have lOre room to curve back and grade
back the nose of that topograp~y that tends to ccae out and get in the .ay
of straightening the drivewoy_
Cg!a1ssioner Qjatian: How did we get involyed 1n conditioning that? It
is really an agree.ent between two private individuals. It was nice t~
h!ar, but why, in fact~ are we 1nvol¥ed?
Mr. Calynne: I think you are exactly right. I think you would get into
an i"l'oss;bll tty of performance problem there. Tile only wa,. I know of fo"r
getting around it would be to continue t~e process for some discreet
period of ti~ and see If the applicant can bring back an agreement) but
conditioning it and approving it on the prosise of a possible a;reeaent
would not work.
thairDgrson Schmidt: If there are no nore questions for staff, we will
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De9tn the discussion.
'O!!jssipner ~lazi~r! As one who WiS here 37 months ago. il~st to the
~tght, looking It this same issue, J &m very pleased to see tnis issue
COlN before IJS, especial loY in the way th;zt it is doing so. What we hav·2
are competing needs on the on! hand of a priyat~ organization, the Pil0
Alto Hills Golf and Country Club, ~ic' 1s clearly an asset to t'"
cOlf ... mity and which hiS a neEd to st41~ current and be vibrant And
revitil1ze itself. On the other hand, we have t~e legitimate needs of the
neighbors i" that coemunity who exist in i pretty unique loning district.
Three years ago~ our decision was that the needs of the neignborhood took
precedence, but toni9ht. as one who was probably the .ast vocal then i~
opposing the country club's proposed redeveloPMent, I would like to say
that I am ver~ much i" s~pport of what they are trying to do. There are
several reasons for that.
N~r One, J think the proposal itself is much .are well tnought out th~n
it was three years ago. I think it is obvious that the management of tne
cluo has beer. strengthened. The ,upport that is he"" tonight on behalf of
the proposal and the fact that the story is well thQught out and
understood by all stake holders is a very posit;ve aspect. To me, the
fact that the financing plan will not rely heavily on bringing in
additional private pirties to the neighborhood is extremel, positive.
Lastl" and perhaps most f~portantly, it does not appear that there is tne
level of neighborhood opposition tnat tnere was three years ago. At that
t1se t there was a much greater number of neighbors that were oppc~2d to
the project, and frankly, r think 1t was bec,"s. it .as not as well
thought out, I cowpl1 .. nt the people here in the rODD for the country
club, the ma~agement staff, for investing the time that you have in being
a good neighbor and in putting together a ~uch i~proved plan.
I do have a couple of concerns. One is this issue of buses. [t is not
clear to me that that neighborhood is the kind of neighborhood where wo
should be encouraging people to bri~g up t~r,ial buses after they have
been to File1i or Stanford Shopping (enter ar wherever. N~t enly is it
fairly inconsistent vith"what ~ are trying to do from I neighborhood
standpOint, b~t it just does not appear to be a11 that safe. It is
difficult to naVigate in that area, generally, and since we ha~e had
problems where people did ~ot think they could ~ake it into the driveway,
it is not clear to me that the country club, from i f~nancial standpoint,
needs to have those buses. I would suggest that ~ not allow buses tnere.
A second point I ~uld ask ay colle.gues to consider is perhaps placing a
limitation on the number of private parties. What I might suggest is to
take 1993 is a baseline, saying that no more than 15 percent greater than
that 1n terms of number of parties be allo .. ed ~" any given ,)'ear. 1 don't
say 15 percent becayse I encourage 15 percent more parties, ~t because I
bel iel/e tnel'e is variation in any given year, given econcmic
circumstances, etc., and YGU ~IY require fewer parties, so placing some
element of assurance that there ~n't be a ti.e wben the club ~ana9e1ent
slips back and says. we are going to ~a~e to rely un more private partfes
to fund this expensive addition. It does provide some element of
security,
I~ tenas of this A(l) condition, I ~ not an arch1te<t, but I, too, concur
that scenic rigbts ire not an absolute right. All of us who live in thfs
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town ltye reasonab1i close t~ one another, and all of o~r Ylews t at one
pofnt or another, ~come obstructed by construction and gro~t~ of some
kind. So r would like to leaVE it to the 'pplicant, the neighbor •• nd the
Arc~1tectural Revfew Board to c~me up with a sGlution~ and ~ot absolutely
re$tri(t their decil'Qn~~aking process in the way that ] think t~e cyrrtnt
Condition Atl) does.
The spine element J feel f~ a 'eg;timat~ design proposal for i leg1ti~ate
need to add some »ore light into the interior of the club. Perhaps if
Carrasco l Associates and the club can (Gme back with someth1ng that is
per~aps i little more attuned to ~hat Mr~ Siovanotto's need$ are. that
would be useful, but I do not want to Mandate sometbing that i$ overly
stri't~ Those arf.l I1Y caanents~ In genera', I &II very such in supp-ort of
this project, and I would like to hear my colleagues' responses on tne
th"'e~j .. ues that I raised.
~: Commissigner Gla2~tr: [therefore make a motion to move the
staff report, approve the conditional use permit ~nd the negative
deel.ration~ and forward it to the Architectural Review Beard for site ~nd
design review c~ntJ subject to the find~n9s ,nd conditions outlfned in
the staff report.
,ha1rperspn SchPidt~ Are you modifying any of the conditions at this
pOint?
,qmmiss!cner Slazier: I will eli.in.t. Condition A(l) and I will add.
condition that basically disallows bus •• to be used ..... ans of
transport of pri.ate parties. I will hold o'f on llciting the n.-ber of
printe parties until I hear whit other people a ... thinking. "'e can put
that In later as an amendment to the .. ticr..
Nrc Schubert: Staff reco.aended an additional chinge at the beginning of
the ... ting on t~ last Condition 0(2), adding the wording, 'li.it spo,ial
events ~ m2ri 1h!n ~ ptr$Qns to no more than 12 in one calendar year~·
Chairpersgn Schmidt: Would t~at be a part of your motion1
Commissioner Glazier; That fs correct~
~: By Commissioner Schlnk.
Chairpersgn Schmjdt: A motion had been ~ade and seconded to accept the
staff recommendations. with findings and cnnditions, ~ith the follOWing
changes: [liminate Condition A(l} and add a condition eliminating buses
for private parties.
CommiSSioner Scblnk: J wou1d l1t.e to ask th~ maker of the motion if he
would fnclude a couple of additional amendments, and possibly reconsider
one condition. Regard~nq elimfnating the one condition~ the staff report
dces not allow for. chimney, and I would li'e to see tho. allowed .cae
flexibility there.
CDmmissioner Glazier: r .. amenable to retaining th! chimney. Again, I
think the neighbors should work as clos~ly as they can vitn the applica~t
to work something out. If we eii.inate .11 of A(I), the chi ... y is
elillinated.
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C0!!lI1Lss1oner Schick; I .. ou~d 1 ike t., ask yOlO to include 1 ailguage that
would require the i.andscape arthitect to perform constructior.
a"d.1nlstrat1on sery;ces~ ilnd at the cooplet ion of the prajed t provide a
letter doc~ntin9 that the landstaping WaS installed per plan. T~e
reI-son J am asking for that i! sa tnat the city is not put in the position
of being required to exactly account for th~ completion of a plan, as
approve<!.
Chairperson Schmidt: A Question for staff. Are c~nditions regirding
construction added at a later time .-
"s. Lytle; This is your review. So thfs would be t~e time to add any
conditions about the project.
Chairperson Schmidt: Sa it does "ot nave the normal series of conditions
about const~ct~an, etc.
Ms. Lytle: We did not see th~ need for construction conditions_ If you
see any, t~is would be the tiDe to add them.
Chalrperson Schmidl: So we would add Jar-'s conditfon. Would you please
restate it?
,C!WI!hsioner $chink.: A con.dition that the hndscape irthitect provide
construction admfnistration, and it the completion of the project, a
letter certifying that the plan was completed per the plans~ Dr with
reaso~able modificatfons..
tODli$$ioner Glazier: So the bus condition would be Condition A(9), and
the land.caping provision would be Condition A[IO).
~O!Pi$sfgner $cbink: Now I would like to speak to the motion. I will be
happy to support this motion, obviously, is the seconder of the ~tion. I
do so for several reasons. One, it ~s rather obvious th~t aft~r 30 years,
the business. and the facilities need to be updated. We have to
acco!mlOdate that, and they ha .... e c.0R! fOf'"alard 1n a y(:.~':J reasonable way.
Also, keeping in Irlind that six or seven years ago, is a member of tf\e
Architectural Review Board, the country club came before us with another
plan. At that meeting, we hao an unbelte~able outpouring of neighbors,
al.ast all of whom were very unhappy with what the club wa~ doing. We
didn't have that sort of re.ponse today, act"ally, quite tne opposite. So
I think it is strong testimony a. to how the club has worked with tn.
neTg~bcrs in the last six or seven years. Given th~t cooperation, [ fe!l
that tney deserve to now be allowed to update their facility.
Mr. Gio\'anotto: Jon, you should withdraw from this. We have had a
problem ~ith you all along.
Chairperson Schmidt: The public hearing Is over.
~r, GiQYanotto: ¥es~ but he should not be allowed. We ~ave a problem.
Chairpersgn Sc~idt: T~e pu~'ic hearing is completed.
Commissioner $chjnk: nave completed .y comments.
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Commissioner Cassel: 1 would like tc support what other pecple havE safd,
and don't feel that I need to add to it, except for one t~ing. I am very
concerned about e'im~natin9 the btlses. It is the ~(ong direction. People
that want to have II b4.is to drive somepl ace where they are going to drink
ind a bus to drive them h~ is certainly I better idea than driving 40
cars of people who are golng to be drinking t~ere. 1 would like to see
that part of It eliminated. I don't know what the rest of ~ou are
thinking. but buses ire large, hOWfver, multitudes of cars ate worse. J
thi~k we should be working ;~ the otner d1rect1Qn~ for other reasons. I
droYe ~p that road today. and I haye a little tar with 100d tur~jng
radius. but I did~'t find that road that unreasonable to drive.
Obviously. if you have cari going in ~th dire<tions Ind cars parked on
bot~ sides of tM! rGad, that is very limiting. Byt it is not an
i~ssible road, and is hardly wnat I would consid~r a difficult road to
drive. I thinK buses WQuld be better thin some at"!r alternative.
COmmissiongr Bgecham: I support ~hat Phy'lis has said, and I would ask
t~e maker and seconder of th~ motion to not limit buses. [have two
reasons why I Igree with Phyllis. One is that there are fewer cars going
up there, wh1Ch is .1 •• ,5 better. Also, if you can get people who are
going to take alcoholic bev.rage. and put them on I bus, that is better
for everyone on t~e road every place.
tpnnls§jpner "jlZter~ I will be glad to do that. ] am not trying to
dfscc~rage people fram taking buses. both for p~b'i~ transit and to avoid
the drinking and driving proble.. My concern WiS DOr. not wantfng to
encourage trive1 agents to send 100 people up there for lur.ch ever} day,
sending thea up on a coup'e of large 60-passenger buses. J don't want to
tell the Palo Alto Hills Co"ntry Clu~ how to run theIr busine.s, but I
just don't think that would be s~thlng the neighbors would look kindly
upon.
Com.issioner Sc~1~t; As the seconder of th~ ~tion~ I woyl~ agree with
removing that condition.
C~l$sioner CiakiaD~ I will not reiterate all the good things that have
been said about the clYb. I do want to comment on the staff. I thfn~
they did il great job of tak.irlg I lot of thE concerns. wea,,·ing them fnto a
report and providing in the find1ngs and conditions a way to ~I~e a lot of
this work. The only thing I ha,,.e a problem with tonight is Condition
A[l). ! can see .11owing for the ehiDney to be In, but I did not hear a
whol! lot tonight, nor did I hear it fro~ the applicant wnen we asked him
to come back, that says that the design has to be the way that it is_ I
think we can pro~ide for the same funct1o~ality that the country club is
trying to get, Increased lighting, and do that i, • way thot Is not to the
detriment, necessarily. of i~body else ir. the areil. I aa not talking
about j~st strictly one applicant. I ~an, just in gE~eral. I don't
thi~k we ~aye done enough homework there to make SijTe that we know h~ the
views of people in surrounding residences will be affEtted. Thit is where
.y main concern is. We cann~t mat! thfs I condition. but part of the
reison why I played so .wch on i couple of tbings ton19ht, without going
thrcug~ 11i of them, is that. for instance l In the clse of accessing the
property, [ OR h~lng that sODetoing eln be worked out_ I -.u1d encourage
you to work sOBethfng out (and I think the rest of the comm1s~ioner$ are
hinting at that, too) between the private partie., which we .annot
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condition. to mike that aCCfSS bettfr. I t~ink that would be to the
btnefit of everybody there. So my feeling 1S that. in gener~1. I support
the staff findings 3nc:t I support m;Jst of what the other (tlinmissloners. have
said, but 1 am having trouble ~upporting the motion if ke drop Condltion
Atl) in its entirety.
Chairperson Scnmidt: I WfJuld go along wit~ Corrrn'ssioner Ojakian's.
co_nts regarding Condition A(lJ. I t'ink tner. should b. the cap.bi ltty
of having a fireplace. My fnterest in putting s.omething back in for
Condition A,lJ is in response to the comments of the majorlt~ of the
Architectural Review Board memb~rs. That was that the design co~ld better
bleod into the deSign of the building. The ARB, t'rough its process. will
be able tD work with the applicant. ] wo~ld suggest s~thin9 like, ·Tne
applicant shall redesign the central r~cf spine to perhaps reduce its
height and work wit~ the cnangts, .hich ~uld be subject t~ ARB review and
approval.-Othe~ise~ J am happy to support the motion, and I agree with
the other comments that have been made.
Commissioner Oiakiar: I am going tc ask the maker of tr.e motion if he
wculd con~lder modifying Condition A{l), as opposerl t~ r~vinQ it,
changing the verbiage so tnat it would allDW for the ,h1mney, but not
necessarily the spine ond tn. way it is being proposed.
Commissjoner Glazier: I think a compromise ~1ght be in order. We all
agree that we want the chimney. My reason for wording th~ motion the ~ay
[ did was that I don't like the phrase -50 th~t no scenlC views are
blOCked.· ] think that fs a very restr1ctive clause. and it is very
subjective as to what you interpret scenlc Yi~s to be. I think perbaps
if we kept Condition A(l), modified the wording for the cniamey, and "sed
t~e wording ·so that the block~ge of sceniC views is ~infmized,· t~at
.ight be a more appropriate way to do this. In that way. there ;s no
strIct req~1rement that nob~y's views get reduced in any way, but t~at
best efforts be made on everyone's part to Mini~ize tlc(kage Df views.
Cpamjssjongr Schink~ That TS acceptable to me.
~rson Schmidt: So that would be, "The applioant sh.ll redesign t,e
central roof spine tD minimize blockage of scenic wiews from adjacent,
existing residenc€~. The changes would be subject t~ ARB review and
approval.· -
Commissioner Glazier; That;s correct.
ComFissfQne~ Beecha~: Does st~ff ~ave any c~nt on how that could be
i IIIp l .... nted?
Ms. lytle: ] think that Julie Haser. wno was present at t~e original ARB
hearing, ~ay have some ideas on haw that might happen.
~s. Kaser! We had talked about the possibility of lowering it and hiving
• s~lisht th.t ;, • ridge s~ylight, which ouuld lower it and still allow
r.aturll 11ght to come into the spine. That was one solutiDn. We would
couple that with c.reful attention to the artificial lignting .0 tnat it
was directed downwards so there wauld be a mini~l a~unt of glow at night
coming out of that ridge sky'ig~t. That was ju~t one suggestion that was
proffered at the ARB. I think t,ere Ire probably other ideas tnat lind.
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L~~de~ and Tony Carrasco had dfscussed. I think that is a perfect way to
sDrve that particulir condition.
MOTION PASSES: Cka1rperson S .. hmidt: Sa thl! mot ion is to atcept the staff
recommendations, to apprQve the negative declaration findings that t~e
proposal will not result in any significant environmental impacts, approve
the conditional use permit with CDnditions. as modif;ed~ They are:
CondItIon A(l) The applicant shall redesign the central roof spine ele5ent
to .Inlm!.e blockage of scenfe .'e... These changes would be subject to
ARB review and approval; add the condition that the landscape ar<hltect
prov1de construction a~1nistration, with a letter at the completi~n of
ca.nstruction certifyillg that construction: lias comp1e-ted according to phn,
or .ery close to pl.n; the ,taff addition of wording in Condition 0(2) in
the second l1ne t add1r.g t~e words ·of more than 350 persons· after
-events,-Tho~e are th~ modified conditions. Also approve the site and
design application subject to conditions in t~e staff report, and forward
to the Architectural Revfe_ Board for design review. All t~ose in fayor~
say Aye? AU JJpposed? That passes on a YQte -of 6-0, with Corrmissioner
Ca~ras:o absent.
T_is item will go before the City touncil on Februar, lInd.
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City Council Members
City of Palo Alto
SA!. GIOIIANNOTTO
3090 Alexis Drive
Palo AHo. Califomia 94304
February ll. 1994
Re: Palo Alto Hilli Coumry Chb (P MICe)
Dear Council Members:
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FEB 101994
On Feb"",'Y 9, 1994, the Planning Commission (PC) reviewtd and =nmmended
willi oonditions a substantial expansion of the P AHCC main building. The Architectural
Review Board (ARB) hearing is scheduled for Febn:01)' 17. The City Council review is
scheduled for Febnwy 22, with minutes of the Feb",,,,y 9 PC meeting not available
before FebruOJY 21 and ARB minutes unavailable prior to February 22.
nus compressed schedule deprives me of the abilliy to present my ooncerns with
=pect to the PAHCC expansion, to comment on the minutes of the PC and ARB
meetings, and 10 make: av .. nable the oppommity for City Cour.cil members to observe
the significant impact of the proposed P AHCC expansion on the view from home. Th.
proposed P AHCC expansion and its chimney and cJerestorylskyHght are in dir .. :t lin. of
site of my home.
Were a reoidential developmenl proposed in the foothills with such an impact on
an adjacent property owner it would certainly be denied. The power of the PAHCC as a
business organization and the influeoo. of its architect, Tony Carrasco, as a planning
commissioner and board member of various Cny of Palo Alto organizations seem to be
import3Dt factors in the review of this project.
The Jtaff reoommendation for the PC fully captures my C<l1lccm which is simply
that the P AHCC expansion not ""cced the height of the current roof of the!' AHcc.
nus could be easily accomplished by P AHCC w!tile increasing the size and function of
the space. However, PAHCC and its !U'chitect have chosen to crea~ a clerestory
roo£Iskylighl which oxcceds the current roof height by 7 fee~ and 8 chimney 10 Of 12 feel
~ the existing roof heighL It is imponanl to understand thaI the PAHCC could
acrue..: its functional and aesth.tic goals, altornatively, without exceeding the current roof
heighL
The enhanced light and beauty wltieh the P AHCC attn'butes to the clerestory
roof/skylight is at the correiative de:riment to my view.
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City Council Members
City of Palo Alto
February II, 1994
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This type of buU-dozing. intrusive approa.ch to neighbor ('uncems is contrary to
weiJ .. establisbed land usc pol.lcies in Palo Alto, particularly with respect to design criteria
foe the foolhills and the open .pace zoning of the PAHCC.
I reque.t that: (1) the February 22 hearing be continued until the public bas had
an opportunity to review and comment on minutes of the February 9 PC hearing and the
February 17 ARB meeting, and (2) those members of the City Council so inclined view
the PAHCC from my house so you can OOscrve the impact of the proposed eJqlansion
and the ease ";'.h which the PAHCC could expand without impacting my view.
I invite any of you to come to my home. A meeting can be arranged on .. ~ort
DOIic:oby calling me at 328-7480 (oflia:) or. 941-7480 (home). I will be away from
February 17 until February 21.
Plm2iDs Commjssion
City oCPoIo Alto
2SO HomiItoo A ••
Palo Alto, CA 94304
Dear Member. of the Planning Commission,
RECEIVED
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I would like to tal<elhis Opportunity Ie express my disoppointmeDt in IlOl being obi. to
share my .suppon for the Palo Alto Hills Golf and Country Club Clubhouse ElqwJsion
ProjccI. 1 .... in attendance at tl>e meeting 00 J"'"""'Y 26th w!>ich was postpooed duo to
the leagt!ty public heorins regarding the Malad...., Creck issue.
I have been • member of Palo Alto Hills for the put..::l.-years and fully .suppon tho
_ and ~on that the club inteods to make. I wu loolcing ror....m IQ tbo
cboDI:e to _ my tbougb!s with the PlamJiDs Commiaiou u I f'eellhe improvaneots
will IlOl only benefit tho membership, but the City 'oCPaIo Alto and neighbo!'s by ba\'ing •
sudI a beautlfW fAcility in their city.'
Thonkyou for yuur consideration,
Palo Alto
HillS
Dear Member, of !be Plotming Commission,
neCE:IVEt>
Ft8111994
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This letter is 10 inform you of!be overwbelmiog support !be Palo A.~o Hills Golf and
COUIIIly Club "''',-. sbowed by aneMing the meeting scheduled for Jamwy 26, 1994.
Our fOIIer taken tho! evening sbowed represe:ttatiOii of oighty members, twenty of
wbi<:b rooide in !he City of Palo Alto.
It ..... ""Y disappoitttins for us bein8 UIIIble to present to you !be deb', position
ODd SUjIpOrt of this project. Mmy 0Iber membero!wl "'PI ",d and mr......
in comiD& but travel caIeIldars p«'YefiIed them from atteoding. It is impo!1ant to IIlso
iIhare with "'" that this proj<c:t was voted on by the manb<nI!ip and ""*-Ian
overwboIming tespoase of86% approval &om 342 voting memb.... This is particuLorly
important ""-!he vOle incNded the approval of. CASh expeodltuxe of $3,000. 00 p<"
nanber to cootribute to !he 6nancins of the project.
I have iDcbIed • liot of O\U """,ibeI. preoem thoI.....mus. It is hopefuI that we have die
_ response 00 February!lt.h APn. while we !hare • disoppoinImeut, we abo
undet-.l your obIipIiOllS to _ the entire pubiic proceos ~ the Matadero
Creek project.
Thank you for your time
PALO ALTO MILLS GOLF {; COUNTRY CLUB· Jooolol ... o" ... , P.IoAlio, c....,,,,, . (4") ... .,.00
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Memben in Attendance January 26. 1994
(0 denotes resident of Pall' Alto)
Mrs Howard Weibel
Mr. Riclwd £monon
• Mr &; Mrs. Sid WOII8
• Mrs. Harok! Ulricb
Mr, &;; Mrs. AIlstia Wakeman
Mr &; Mrs, Mitcbell Mann
Mr, lloben SmiI:h
Mrs Rol.kDd ICumopi
Mr. Gary LIDd
Mr &; Mrs, Gary GriJIith
Mr, &; Mrs. DlMd Ewald
• Mr, Howard Neff
• Mr,J_Kozy
• Mrs, 1_ Nelson
Mr & .Mrs. Laird lit mtsmpm
• MD. William Bott<.ms
Mr, Marv McAnIIm
Mr. Stq>bea Tmg
Mr, Bruce Ptestwicl!
• Mr, &; Mrs, Frank KdIy
Mr, 8: Mr" W".:JWn Schmidt
Mr, Mac: Wdsoo
Mr, &; Mrs, Edward BIancbard
• Mr," Mrs. Lewis SoutI>em
• Mr, Stq>bea Burnside
Mrs, GordoD McClintock
Mrs, PIIIridt nemey
Mr, Wdlard KauIlinan
• Mrs, Marion McCuniy
Mr. &. Mrs. Wend.n Brown
Mr. Wdiiom No!e:
Mr. " M .... Lawrence Hobbs
Mr, &. Mrs Charles Stamschror
• Mr. Michael Skuce
Mr. &; Mrs Frank Mann
Mr. &; Mrs, Rudy Nasel
Mr It Mrs. James Simpson
• Mr &; Mrs, EdWIn! Brugge
Mr, EdWIn! Navarro
Mr, &. Mrs Tb<Imec Aalgaatd
Mr, &. Mrs Anthony Ko:zy
Mr, RicIuud ~JeIsoD
Mr, DaYid Schn:iner
Mr, Douold Klages
Mr, David Gcuy
Mr, JoIm Smithson
Mrs Msureen Shields
Mr. Donald Zepp
• Mr, &;; Mrs. Jlideyuki Tamgami
Mr, &; Mrs, Louis Bcili
Mr, It Mrs, Douglas wen ..
Mr, Thomas FBDIe
Mr, George DoedIa
Mr, Micbeal ilDssi
Mrs. Max Lovingood
• Mr, Joseph SchoeDdorl'
• Dr. Ken Kato
Mrs Thomas Goodenoush
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Planning CQmmissioo
City of P&lo Alto
250 IWnilton Ave
Pclo A'to. CA 943~"
RECEIVED
FEB 1 0 1994
I WOYJd like to take this opportunity to express my disappotntmonI in Dot being able to
share my support for tbe Palo Alto Hills Golfand Cowttry Club Clu"""""" Expansiqn
Project. I .... ill OItelll!an« II !be meotina on J&DUIII)' 26th wbic:.b .... poSlpon<ld due to
tbe leo>gIhy pubfu: hea!ing reg>rdins !be Matade<o Cndc issue.
I have been • member of Palo Alto Hills for tbe pall JL years and fully .... pport !be
progress and te<lOVlIliOD thai thE club inteocb to make_ I was IooI.iDs forw..-d to 1M
cbaDce to share my 1hoogb!s with !be Planning CommissiOD as [ fed !be improvomen!s
will DOl ooJy bendit !be ~P. but !be City ,,(Palo A1t" &Cd ooighhon by having •
suc:.b a beautiful facility in their city.
Th8lIk you for your C<lnsideration,
February' 5, J 994
Planning Commission
City ofl'l.lo Alto
RECEIV~!)
2s() Homiltcn Ave
Palo Alto CA 94304
FEB 11) 1994
We would like 10 go on recon:I as supporting \:be Palo Alto tf!lls Golf and Country Club
Expamion Project.and fully support the progress and renovation that the club imends to
!!like.
1_ in ItIftIdance 01 !be m=ing on IIIIIIJII'Y 26th which was postpOnOCi due 10 the
JeosIhy public hearing resanlin!! the MaIad<ro Cn:cl:: i5IIUe. We are looking forward 10
the next ~ of tile Planning Commissioo oc February 9tb . W. feel the
improv<motlts will be very beuific!:ll1O all concerned
Mitchell and Patricia Ma:m
',-.
Planning Commission
City of Palo Alto
2S0 Hamilton Ave
Palo Al.o. CA 94304
REcEn"~')
iFES 041994
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Dear Members of the Plan:1ing Commission,
I would like to tak: this opportunity to exprESS my disappoint!Tlent in not bein:g able 10
sI1are my suppor1 for the Palo Alto Hills Golf ane Courury Club Oubhouse Expansion
Project. [was in attenda.,.ce at the meeting en JarruaJ)' 26th which was postponed Que to
the lengthy public hearing resarling the Malad",o Creek issu.,
.' --I have be<n • member of Palo Alto Hilis for the pall ;I 'j years and fully suppan the
progress and renovation t.har the club intends to make. [was kwking foNJaTd to the
chance to share my thoughts with the Planning Commission as I red !he irnprovcmeats
will nol only benefit the membership. but the City of Palo Alto and neighOOrs by having a
such a beautiful facility L~ their city,
.C1wtk you for you.r consider.lfion, ~ .. C '----'K\<.J ......... ct A G~J.d,tJ
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Planning Commission
City of Polo Alt"
250 Ham:ltoa Ave
Polo Alto, CA 94304
Dar Momb<n afthe Planning Commissior,
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I wt>UId lib 10 take this oppor1unity to express my disappointmenl in aot being able to
share my "'PPO" for the I'illo Alto Hills Golfand Countty Club Oubhoo .. Expansbo
Project. I W8! in aaend.tn<e lithe meeting 00 lam.wy 26th which was postpc>ood due to
the Jeogthy public bearins regarding the MAudero Creek issue.
I have -. a member ofPalo A.~o Hili. for u., post ~ yean and fUlly "'PPO" the
prosras and reIIOVaIion thaI the club intends to make. I was looking fOfWlld to the
chance to sbar< my IJ>oush!s with the Plarmins Ccr.nmission IS I feel the improvemcm.s
wID JIOI only bcm:fiI the membership, but the City ofPalG Alto and neighboo by having a
such & beautifullilcilily in thcircity.
February 7, 1994
PlaaDiog Commission
City or Palo A110
250 Hamilton Ave.
PaiD Alto, CA 94304
DeJor Memben of the Planning Commission:
3187 Alexi. Drive
Palo Ai!o, CA 943114
I .. ould like to take thiJ opportuoity to .. pr .... my diJappointment in nol being ab!.
to share my support for lb. P.lo Alto mils Golf and Country Club Clubho....,
~DSiOD Project. I .... as in IUendan.".t Ibe meeting on JaDuary 26th, but as you
know, consid>!ratioD .fPllo Alto Hill. Projed was postponed due to the lengthy
public healiDg regarding Innlher issue.
[feel that my eontribution to the Planning ComnUssion deliberations ~ voluble ill
that I am bolb". member of Palo Alto Bill Country Club, and also live on A1e:iJ
Drive whieb is adjacent to the golf eourso. I purchased my home in Mar'" 1993.
One of the compelling positive reasons for selecting this ho ........ the openness ad
ambiance of the community to "bieb the golf ..... no and i01f dub coolriboteo
greatly. I strongly support keeping the club modern ODd renewed so thaI the long
rerm asset value of my home Ind other homes in tb. community will be maintained.
I am lure there are always differing opiniG ... and pluses and minuses 10 every
cIeclsiou. However, my strong view is thaI this proposed expansion iJ conservatively
aad thougbtfully prepared with the neighborhoods cone.rns in mind and should be
.... pted.
I .... looking forward to the chance to .hare my thoughts witb the Planning
Commis.sloe as I feel the improvements wiU be of benefil both the membenlUp Ind
t. the ...... m.nity at borg<. I wiD make every eff.rt to be in attendance at Ibe_
Feb ...... ry 9th meeting, if J can arrange my work scbeduled.
Thank you for your consideration.
S;ru:erely,
~#£J};Y7
Howard Neff
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PIamUns Commission
City of Palo Allo
250 Hamilton Ave
Palo AlIO, CA 94304
Dear ManIMm oftlte Planning COIlUJliuion,
I would like 10 take this opporlwlity 10 express my disappointmen1 in not being able 10
share my supper. for tIte Palo Alto Hills Golf and Country Club Clubhouse Elcpansion
Projec:t. I was in atteodance at tIte ..-inil on lonuary 26th which was postponed due to
the !eogthy p!lblic bearing _ding tbe Maudero Creek issue.
I haw: been • memI>er of Palo Alto Hills for tIte pI3t M years and fuDy support tIte
progress. aDd renovaUoo tbat tIte club inteods 10 maI[e. I was looking forward to the
clumoe 10 Ibare my thoughts with tbe PIa!>niJ>g Commission as I 1m tIte improvements
will DO! only beoofit the membeMj>, but the City of Palo Alto aDd neigl>bon by having a
ouch a beautiful faciIity in their city.
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PORTO'-" VA:..LE:V. C"'LOFOI:CNlA 1;>4t?.a.5
Planning Commission
City of Palo A~o
250 Hamilton Ave,
Palo AHo, CA 94304
Dear Members of the Planning Commission
,r~ "t', 11<r'f
RECEIVED
f£B 08J9S4
I would Ii ke to take this opportunity 10 express my
disappoinlment in not being able to share my support for
the Palo Alto Hins Golf and Country Club Clubhouse
Expansion Project. j was in anendance at the meeting on
January 261h which was po.stponed due to the lengthy
pubnc hearing regardi ng the Maladero Creek issue.
My wife and I fully support the progress and renovation
that tile club inlllnds 10 make. My !snow club memlJers
and I look forward !O the chance 10 share our thoughts
witI1 the Planning CommisSion as I fIIel the improvements
will nol only benefit the membership, but the City of Palo
Alto and neighbors by having such a beautiful facility in
their city.
Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
~':" ! ;.. -". A?l~~Jli~;j.·~· ~;~'~~',~~7.~';-;i""~"
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PICnfllng CommisSion
City Of Palo Alto
250 Hamilton A~nue
Palo Alto, CA 94304
DAViD C. EWALD
To the Membars of the Plannir,g Commission:
,-
FEB 081994
My wife and I attended thl! Jcnuary 26th Plcnning Commission Meeting end it
was diS1lPpo1ntlrlll not to heye been cble to express our support for the Palo
Alto HIllS 501! ena CountPJ Clubhouse Expansion Project due to the lengthy
~scussion on the HatcdertlCrtlek flcod control improvements,
We heve been members of Palo Altc Hills for the pesllwo years and fully
support l'le progress 8nd renovation thet the club intBllds to make. I had
hoped to sher.l my thoughts With the PI enning Commission 8S I believe the
Innprovem~ts Will benefit the membership and the neighborhood end thl!
City of Palo Alto 85 weI!.
T~k you .!or JJ1~:?~deration. .O~Y'EW8'§~
Copy: Palo A lt~ City Council
13830PAGEUIllROAD,SU!TE1[J(l . LOSALTOSHIUS,CA 94022 ~ (415}941-3830 • FA.X'4'5}94~.B2S2
Plan...?'ling Ccmnissi on
Ci ty of Palo AI to
250 Hatcil ton A-..re~
Palo Alto, CA 94304
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Febru':!.ty 2. 1994
Dear Members of the Plannin9 Commdssion,
As members of Palo Alto Hills Golf and Country CluJ:.,
we were ~ry c.isapp'inted in l'ot having the EXpansion
Project of the Club actOO en during the January 26th
lZJ!eting. "We felt our proj-ect was as inpJrtant as tl-.e
Matadero Creek issue. was to the people that made the
hearing last as long as it c:lid.
Since 'Ire have been 1rE!mbe.rs of Palo AI to Hills Gol"f
and COUntry Cl'l"b for over 15 years j we have watched
the club beccme OCIF.: ot" the outstanding ones on the
Pe:nninsula. The existing beauty of the green golf
course vi th 1 t' e m.u ti tude of a.ll types of trees
vill be enha.ncecl by the Expansion. Project of the
Club Bouse. '!his total iq>£oved club vill not only
be it benefit to members, bJt also vill be a fadl1ty
that the City or Palo Alto can be proud of _ .
We since.rely b.?pethls project will receive it's review
and approval quick.ly ~ since we fUlly support the
renovation the club intends t.o make.
'I."hank you lor your cdnsiderat-ion,
Cl ty Councll
Cit}" of Palo ".1 to
250 Hamilton Ave.
Palo Alto. CA 94304
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FEB 07lS94
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Planning Commission
City of Palo Alto
250 Hamilton Ave
Palo AIIo, CA 94304
Dear Membcn ofthe PlanDin& Commission,
"'.<, ' ""'"
RECEIVED
FEB 0 419S4
I wculd lib to take this opportUnity to express my disappointment in DOt being able to
share my .uppon for the Polo AIIo Hills Golf and Country Club aubhouse Exponsioo
Project. I ...... in attendance at the meeting on Jamwy 26th which was postponed due to
the Ieos'.by public heating regardlng the Malad"", Cree!c issue.
I have t-. • member of Palo Alto Hills for the past $ Z yean and fUlly support the
progress and renova!ioo thai the club intends to make. I was 100king forward 10 !he
cIwx:e to sharo my ti>oug!tts with the Planning Commission as I feel the improvemeJIIS
will DOl DDIy b<ndit the momber.ihip. but the City of Palo Alto and neigbbon by having •
such • beautiful facility in their city.
Thank you for your coMidetation,
-=--;.)//1 J. .5 Pi ; T;.!6.!J ;./
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P1&1miJ~g Commission
Crt)' <A Palo Mo
230 Ham!:han A'tIC
_ Altc, CA ~3Q4
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FEB 041994
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I,.,oWd lib: 10 tIK dlts ~r:t to cxpre:sI my dlsappoinDIlCDt ill nIJrrt being.llhlc 1O.slwe my support
for !be Pakl Alro Hills Golf aad Comucy aub Qubboose ExpabSioo Project. I was in IUCZldimce at the
meetiDg on J.anwIry 26I:b wbkh was pos1pOatd dot 10 ~ kngtby pubEc bC"4riIo.s regardi.Bs the Matadero
Cndca...
I have been a member or Palo Alto Hil~ lor die ~l five years and fuDy suppott tbe prrogRSS and
l't:ID(MLtjoo IhaE tbe clob inteads kJ make. I WO'JId like to bavc-shared my thoughts with [be Ptanoing
c«nminioa.. I !leI tile.fmptovemezlts will DOl ooly benefit &be membmhip. I:'lu( will also be:oeftt tbc Or:t
otPalo Alto 8Dd irs u.eizhbcq by Ilarlq SIJdI • bamdtu! tacility ill lbeircity.
'Ihaak yoo for yow""';_
Planning CO~ssion
city 0:( Palo Alto
250 Hamilton Avenue
Pal,Q Alto. CA
VIA CERTIFIED HAIL
3077 COWltry Club ct.
Palo ~lto, CA 94304
January 14, 1994
Re: The Palo Alto Hills t;o.lf' and Countr}" Club
3000 Alexis Drive
Ladies and Gentle.en of the C~ssion.
RECEIVED
JI'.N 1 91994
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We hereby request that the bearing on the above captioned i tea be
postponed; until such tiae as a true and. correct fraaing aode.l can
be erected on the project,. vbich will truly and correctly allow
you to viSWll.ize tI>e iJopact tlIat this project .HI bave on its
adjacent neigllbors.
The 1' ...... that bas been erected bas been located at the rear of
the pzoposed ecSdi.tion .. and it unfairly represents what the visual
~ct wiU be.
In conversations on January 13th with lis Linda Ludden. one of the
arcbitects for -the project, abe bas agreed to bave erected at the
leading edqe of the current building S<mI! r ...... ...-It and or
balloons tc 6bow what the new beight of the buildinq will be.
lJDfortunately. there is DO way for ~ to show the co-ission
8DCl neig:llbors.. bow this addi tiOD will appear, Wen it is JtOYed
cloeer to the street by anywhere troll 8 to 24 feet.
:InasaDch as ~ ~ of the eo-ission and. other city
officials have already visited the proj~t and have seen the
ais1eading fraaing that is now on the building, we are concerned
that a false ilIpression bas been .acte and a px>r judgmoent vill
be _de b&sed upon sa.e .. As soon .as the cbanqes have been -.de,
than a re-i.r.::spection can be aade ancS a new hearing scheduled ..
Please p1ace us on any aai1inq list concerning the afore.entioned
property.
'l'bank you.
Sincerely,.
qq "IIF
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~EfTjNG WITH NEIGHBORS OF PALO ALTO HIllS
AUGUST 24. 1993
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dCC.U06 -.the. only f.IX1.y you. ge.t mOlL'!. pa.'Lk.ing ~ IM-P....i.ng compaw.
I luvtdty ~ te. C.OPftpac.t ~ coming d-! ill u.c.e.p.t: on AlCl'1tday. The.
c.oUJt.t.\y club doult r.t d.u.:.ve compact c.aJL6 ~o how dOrA .th.U, Jt£do
help! We. Ivtow tha..t tltUt ..u., 110 cO"'pc:tct .I! C { 1AttfI..t to mc1fLt bWLt
yo~ ""ow tiuJ.t pt.opit will. take ! • pac... t. paJtk 60 we wUt have
,tjltnl ba.c.k aga..iJt ott CLVt .6tJtu.,t. r C4II p1tave to !fOU I haJ:.dty U.£
cuty C.OI:lpac.t c..:v..e.
YoWl c.onc:.(Att. .u t.ha.t .i' IUI-t compact c.a..\ would U6e. t .6pa-C.U e.ve.n
".hough . .u .i.\ a co_pact 'paCE.
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j.i-tt hydltant, and up ""'.... .... Me.
So a.ga...i.n. -W!.' Itt jUfnp.i.ng d.he.ad 4 ,Ut.U.e. on .. i.,uuu altd C.<"'tcVlJ""'&.
We.' ve. got pa..tk.UtS and Clcce,U. ItJa.6 ~ tltue. tlI\O..dIU quuwx 6e.6cJtt.
we mot 066 ~ ~44""'.
VU, I have • q" .. .tlon 1LJId .... pa.uung -.,...twI.U.~ WId .... entMn«
.itt t ...... 0' --r ..... hopag .that ..us. 4U. ~ tiuJ.t'. go.u.g on
.that gOIL "",aU .ioop.wv. tit. tJttt<u!.ce .to .t4 <1ub. l.t • .uu. « "n44, e.
O~ oj .t4 «.au U tiuJ.t p<.oplt leav.u.g tit. elub caMot u.
up Al..u..iA .60 they aeflln1t, MVe. t~ lItO'Vt out:.
And th. people c..w.s .w.o..
So ","en you «,u tit. elub---60ittwuttely tiuJ.t'. not .'" p.\Obl ....
It hA4 notlt.i.ng .to dD ..uk u>.
But c.mo<.n9 up U tlte .~--·tIt",. « a "".blo. wo.
CornoUt« .9~'U ~'ta.t "'" .hoaU !Do. at that.
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d,,-fctt.l} ..to ~4U.U _ J' '" Aat ke.aA.in.g ctrl!I IIOU qu.u tiolU ~
1, !IOU; hAve no c.mpae.t pa.tk.ing ollly ~tans1IVI.d • """' """9 opacU
Wou.l.d YOll haud
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It6 po~.6-i.c.le., The..u..1,o no 'U~ . .d.OOjl to 1iJ:1.U 1.6 ~ get app1!..ovttl.
1'" not .6U!lf. 1 undeJt..6.talld---yau.' At plttnn.(rrg on U/94 QJ, .tIle.
gltound UILe.a.«H9 We.. -you. wou.l..d lih, t.o mou( tha-t tlp .i6
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be. .tile. .tOr:t .that.6 going ..to happen -:.H} ..tke WI!. you. gu tJ..U. th£.
Clpp1tOVa..(6. [J~ -1 m2.11.tt -Wi.th .the be.a.u.,.\a.t(cy 06 govVUUllVtt. you
don't ~~y L~~ yeu ca~ move it up do YDU.t
Isle don.' t tnow.
U fUnd 0 I • hOW£d on yo",,-pta.", iowo. .theM -.the "" 0 ,Un. -WU.
yeti. dbi(. f;o clta.t\ th-e. up .to make i.;t ltIC}tt. /1.t..tJuL.c..tve,1'
The. lI.'h.o.le. -'wo6 w.U.l b'2. .tmp1UJvt!.d .600 tJIl pe.op.(.e. loowg dOWJo. 011
U---The • .uwg ~<h<1MC« .y.,f;bI on .thU ~co' '..<gh.t <vu hue
«lid tI,U. un.u. wi.th b.i.g dw!..tJ, ItU ovu .tho pta.e.---~ gU6
,,-eduoed .to .IMU un.u. wU.h no ciua. <\U1IMng.
Illi.tJt Wt.i6o'UI:I colOJt. on ..tile. top teo?
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. I irut ......t .to <lOt I19W obout steVU q"uwn Jttg4Adulg .tho ~
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n"-""<1l ~,.u bt .tho I<IiJt.ttltti..wt -U. gO.i.llg .to .impIlet tho
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'ItOm tilo co.",~cti.on oompany wltc d.id 0""-u.,f; pItOjoot--~
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(<Wtty goael uptAi .. c~ .,tIuLt.
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up "'rAt. Tu"u a.nd c.anc.eJtM.
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tftt a.d...iv.u..i..u :t.:ha.t. Me. goins .tJ:J Iulppe;t dUlLing c.cn.!o.:tJtaC .. tuHt.
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ddngtJWU6 downkiU 'toad wUh gJta.v,..t CHI ,u. -e.utK wUnou..t 91t4\J1tl
.u. not too """dVt6rd. POll. 6 1IIO..tn. .thAt llligltt b •• lI.eo! ?'tCbltm
fAp<ci.a.Ur ,u, .tit. ""->Ltv< ""..v... '
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I ""u.td Uk. to <ldd .OUt WId"" eo .. .tIw.e.tU".
Aetua(ty I'. ""ne ..... d <4i.th .th. odd.it<:D. oj ... out4<d. d.dt ~k
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buf.:-· ! m:e.M tw iA aJt ol'lgo-Utg plI.c-b~~m. Thut: Me. pe.apte. whO' 4.U
C.O!ft.UJ.,g ntJLt tOll tl:tn..U dnd I th..i.ttb: that: wlta..tlvUt I yO'Cl. Me.
.i.rnP06.ir..g i.P.. i"Jt~ C.OntJutc.t .u "ot a.de.qua.te.. l(i~ ,,' people. ha.ve.
pa.-t.t.iu--di.6€.i.euLt .to 6.ind a.t tti.~1tt «ud .the!! pu.t bt It didg1t4m. Tke..6t.
ai\1!. .i."..ttUi.,gVl.t, Lik'. IIOp1!., ptepte. no.t dlt..Utkiltg Ime" ,they come. u.p
and '-6 they coutd ,<.nd tJ,w ""Y wUJ, an adoqU<t.te ..op iMtead
06 ,,«rog o'<g",_ I don't .tlWtk tht-te .hould b. any ''':9"' at
'1ny-Cime. 04 aJty b4.UOOn.6.
ArujtJLh1g We. or.. ..tJU..6 bPe.c..i6.i.c. Ollt -Jr.-iBh.t. hVte..
r _don.' t kJtCtW ~Mt you mean--
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ttldt one. °1 .thue. one. ttt 11 .time. dtl.d SU lUCILE. dUrl1.U. 4MU."td Lt.
Thi.4 6i.Mt or., """ debw at AloxiA and Pag' 1I.iU.. AJ ,y.tMr.g 0 K
tJ,at--any !aM:h«.
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j",t Al.xiA--T ...u .. y dog ""d r do noUce th .... .i4 dobitU
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11K -deb.\i.J, MOund M.u.~ 4itd h< g"" • .\at
I got en. WlCU ... 4 /lugkb ... MOund the dub. III. ,",ve • p.\Ob! ...
",Uh the a"""" u..e--• ....". ov"'6tow tvt.\!! .woo. you g",,' ltavo 4
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0". oj .tIto tlWtg. I oUU ,",v •• cenc"", aoou.t i.J, tho MtuI<-ns
w.i..th. the .tItA.6.1t am! be.VL c.an..a, pe.opte. da.rrW-B "r.: .the. JLoO', .m.t.t'LUAU
ongo.itl:l p.\Obt..,. Th. otht .. .tMr.g ... g ..... tite buUd-iAg, the
.kyUght .u go.(ng to be .. .ight .u. jMKt; ., ooy 1wu.6~ 6. '''''"' fI~
bl.doto"", r .., It 't • to ""JIIIOu S. r. All th... UIUttloco6 IllU! be "'-sht
iJt ,,,,,Kt; oj ... --1 ""'/l't ... no ...... S.F. onlg .(J.D" IIJiIulaw6 and
you. It.'lJJUlj have. ItO a.6e. 'a~ .them be.c4t.':.u. !l0tt GA.t not ~
toOW-iJ .tJvu>ush thu.. It i.J, i""t 'all yoWl Ught and , ..... "" you
tolle ltV v":~. So I o>vt.t to tMkt OIL" tr.at yO" ouuI ..... .taJtd that.
Be~t T ='t H. to S.F. 4ltJlllO .... Ow" -not the ~ --c<K.t>.ai .kyUght •
T ltav, an update OK the 6...v.. Th. ci.ty, tho d~ ., the
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ond .they have a •• U''-e •• ~. ""<d' .ti14t .they <M. ".pu:;w.g ""Ii
<u ~ I"0ce .. 06 d.~g l.ha.t •• a rut.n't iUAt be", the <tub -
.(.U be ..• v~·Wbody thdU "' .... uph.i.U 06 tha.t .WVt. They e1A.iJI! .th,y
oW have .., .. tlla. SO, ""It.< capauty th4Jt they have had the paot IS
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II'UI!. htaILd .tI-.Ls, od e.~A.t4..Wy IIJre.I U c.oncVLne.d--We. ~t1t to mit.
..... .tila.t ttita.tevM you do doun' t have •• <g<Ltlve '~/lJi,iJLl ~
to .th.i..6 nugld:to1l.hood. You.'.Il1!. ttLtille.d .1.0 .~l!.mOdet. ~
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.tJo.at4 MO.th« SO pf.opl., 01\. %5 041\.4 c,..u.g up the 1t.Oad. AM w. i, yo. could ke." .u to 110-200 .vtnt4 a yt4!t. 1II.'d W. w ...
It up on .that. Bwuut .th •...... tvV<t6 .the .., ... wii«.
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and !Da~. stop .~ • .u not .... tlWtg.
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caaWIg out ... <1 yO"' u co..u.s up. F.uu.t ., ..u. tDU ., th .. olU __
dJt.iu~ V\)\ati •• Il~ dcIIOI Pagt Nill but yO" hav. to Cl\.Up up
bWlIu. vo" "" ... fuy' ... co..u.s out ., .th.u 4nd .they'.t. Kat ,
4.toppiJtg. I, .tha.t f.>I.t"-IlIIct could bt ..utntd 4nd wiuigntd -
""vtt! doott •• people ,,,,,wIg d ..... c.Duld H. up AluU • .so.dIWtg.
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It'. jUl>t dang""''''' -a "",!Ltd b • .uc~ tc <o ....... ct Vt4t .
.Yay-bt M pctJL-t Cll .tlt.,.U, lome-how t.lta.t. coul.::l b~ Colt-'le.etE.c1?
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btt.6U up hl..tt. 16 .:thi..A d I1VLY OCCd..d.iorcctt t.h.i.ngr lYft do yeu. Mvt
any .oen .. u. 0' whVt .the.~ can c.orne. up h~/le -u.ndVt wfL!lt ei.'LCLL~..tLtnC.t.6?
~t have. 4 ~be.t wnc i4 4 tAavtl dgtnt th41 ~po~c~~d 4 couple.
0' {""ekeD, .. "". th, ........ " P'-W~ Ul>~ 06 to"" bUb... I -t!Wtk
wt Smve. had dDotLt 5 Oec.d.6.ioM IJD 641t ~ yeaJI..
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tA.'6~c i6 you'Vt got ,~ caAA--
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1 IIfVLtio ne-d Lt 1u:t6 be.caJLO t. I know.u. u,u" a..t lunch. .time. t wa..6
c.onti.ng up Alt.:t-i& and .the. bi.t.6 I4tt.6 go..iMg dGwI dJtd .d\t.lll ta16 11 c.M
paAiLtcl, wh.Wt ~ Uftgal -oo.t 1Uiyu>tq -I .... illm,,.t ""'" oH
the Mad b~ tho -to"" ru.. I ..... AV •• out -d-,",v" c.ollling """"' -to"
'~-t but--I thio~ a. IIItLbIlg bw", •• they' lie lto-t I~ -th •. ~
dem I.t. COIM. up hvtlt .too (I,ttJt -no.i -ti.kt d .ltchool bu.& tha.t colftU
up htJIt 5 dIuj. " ~U ... d 1In_ -the ""ad<. Th.V do.' -t co~ up
htJIt vtJlq .~"" 40 thOUJ do.' t ~, ...•• .1 th"'., ..... tIWtk th.~
<lit .taJt<laJtci JIO.d<.
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,,"aM -but not ... , ~O. h4v~ 4 o •• bo dy ~g Ii_ thVtt
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11M4---.i, thOUJ """e b.w.,gUg • lA'Be BJIOUP Iwte..;--tho-t they
lIIOuld "".e II """u4ioMi d-tiv",. RttthtJI th4K have--I dolt'-t
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thtlt you've got d-tivtJlol Ute doft'-t ... ...uy "'''''' tha-t paAticllt ...
""ad --they co""' cioo.tt -to. 'ab': Olt the Hetp hal ... .1 a. h4JIci ,
-to 4-top ""d tho-t /Wod ., • .cu66--
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gta .. H ItI!deJtJtea..th.
r a /jOU lowell .:..:.t .u lOOuld 6ci.ve my pt\l)blvn.
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'uncUo .. .tIta.t ct« •• td up h.,.t th<lt W<..U •• tong'" bt Ilttd. Tk-U
W<..U bt 60Jt ~eJl4 oKtq.
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l~e ..u <l>ld WE. dell'.t CQJt.e. wtle.!iLeA. the.!{' Jt.e. mvnbVL4 all J1QL The.
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ito not .. ,aUg how I!IIU\g -~, you lVt. " ..... b." and tho 61lCility
.u It.ttLliy n.iee you. I4Ul u.6t it IIOJtt o'tVl~
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b I!.EIt lI..I.tM e.d.
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the but Ill< can to lAg out • 0., ° pUo flO CUI. peAM<.tou_
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In pa.llticu.la.Jr. a..t n-i.gh.t w/le.~\ tlae.y httvc. bten cL'L&th.i.llg. They do
riot .6top a.t the .6:top .a.tgJ! -il dOi!AIl.· t. mea:ft anytSu:.ng dnd with
.the POOl!. v-udbi.U.ty .thvu~. it' h 11 ba.d 4..i..tu.a..t.ioll tlt.a.t n.e.e.d6 t.o
be " ... edi<d.
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d.b~ i""~ pd<kJ __ g to~.
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be. ClJlttMUed ..in g.Lv.(.ng .tJu: ...... oat --Thf.. ma.Ut th.Utk i gu 0)1
ItIJ P-'Wpwy i.6 .6 .(y".o 6 OCVlt cutJ6.
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It dDeon' t (ut"e anyVung to dD w.i..th club ~H·ic, U'. jlLl>t
Vw..t thHe'. "tot oj deb"",. I know the Che""V •• p ... t S<ttwuJc.y
ct<aH.u.g up debJ<.U along tire leit ~./.de; tI,ey pitobabty eou1.d have
told ILl> ju.!t wllAt k.u.d oj debJ<.U they piek<d up. So T tlUttb. LU
jlJ.6t <1 .odUal pitObl .... It h<ippeM boc""". oj nt.<ghbo..." 0"
eo'~.t.u<ctWn, 0-1. ,"'lAte..... Bat I live above the club <Vtd I .t.Ul. get
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U 6t.:pc.o'oDJII Illtlj I~.uf.. ..than pcr.p«.' Do2.6 it blew 6u.tt1ttAT
Ii .... '~e ..u-btom<ng the club --.th4t cou1.d b. po .. .ibl. --
S.--c."'~ilDw -.tI1At'. btu W ... """. 0' by th. city .... hope.
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'" rtll!/th.u.g tlw..t6~g 4t the club '''''''' """'-U bwg
deoc.Ubtd. O~ -OK 4U. hOILl><ng, .e..uh, b .... """" -.i.\ that
the VIfptoy~. ho ... .0t!l! r. that V,e cone .... ?
yeo.
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nt.<ghbo... ho"'-Ut9 value -~y bww,," 0' v.uual elwtgu.
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Buy .. hOIL6. .u. loo Alto4 1!.iU.o. J jw.t .th.Utb. ........ be.u.g II. u.uu
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wh.a.,tevVt tLbe.6 d.'td a0u6u CdJ1 be. ---
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up helle. in .the. I-....i..U..6 dJlt .. lI'IOltt btau.t.i6ul lltcUI .th.i.& cL.tc.~.Du.&e. OJtd
i! -th.i.& c1ubho .... ""A' "",dt .. bt.u,ti.!ul. ... .th. hemu U """td
b. h.tp~ul. -and ... '.u tJr.y ,to h.lp too. Til< c1Hbl!o"H, 60-\ man:;
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.... tad:; a,t the ~. And .tit. "0"'" "". not taoky.
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.tit. "UPOMU -W. 2 .... tlt. -3 wu/u -4 ... 00 o<Lt.
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AU.o<. 'O/f. ..u.t .then ! wetlt6.
J got 5 ttUMA .u. II;' ..u.tbOL 00 ""yb. VULt' 0 ~ .""'" ""opt. M.e
no-t h.~ •. Ju.t 3 doyo "go put .iJt mo..Uho. ,,,,.th """'n9 d<idJtU'.
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Architectural Review
Cit~ of Palo Alto
250 Hamilton Ave.
Palo Alto. CA.
Board
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3120 Alexis Dr.
Palo Alto. CA 94304
2114/94
RECEIVED
FEB 15 ~'\lUel ~ .. -... Re: Palo Alto Hills Gnlf I: Country Club ~·r:. .. IlOi._.t
Conditi~nal Use Per.it • Site' De&ign Approval
Planning Commission Staff Report of Jan. 26, 1994
lte. 6. Roof Bquipment
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Board,
~e hereby request that you postpone approval of the ite. of
Rel"Bra. IteJII 6. Roof EqIJipaent. This is requ.ested to allow the
homeowners of the three most seriously i_pee ted resic!ences to
address t4ie issue at the city council seetinc un 2/22/94.
Per the PI~nninl Comaission Staff Report dated J.n~ Z6. 1994,
"Staff observed that the roof equip_ent on the clubhouse 1.
extre.ely uDsightly as viewed froll -on-ai te as well a8 fro. adjacent
reaidenoes·~ ·Staff reco .. ends that the re.ainina roof
equipent be visually iap.r-oved J but Dot necessarily acreened, since
this ma~ create additional visual iapact.-
The roof equip.eat ial in fact, & terrible eyesore. but we do
alree with the st.aff reco_endation that .ere acreenin. could be
proble.atic. Since suoh visual blicbt is in direct violation of the
pertinent 0 S ZoniDI" Retulations, we requeet that the club reaove
the unite fro. the roof and re-looate them to .oae fora ot enclo.ed
atora.e area which is not a viaual nuisance to the neilhbor ••
The club haa hiatorically reburfed o~r requests that they do
8o.et.hing about the un.i.btl~ equipIent. ata.tin, th~"t t.hey couldn't
afford ~o do anythina. Ho~ever, they are preaently apendinc
Ilillions of dollars on buildin, rennovations. A 8-ubstantial part of
this .oney i8 beina spent (0:" s.trictl,. cOB.e!.ic cheln.es to the
front of tne buildina. to aake the. look aore appeal in. to their
co_ercial ousto.era approachina: the front tlf t.he buildina: en
Alexis Drive. It is incorrect for the o]ub to try to iapoae tbeir
UDai.htl,. :i.nd.ustrial appearanoe on the nei.bborl!l bebind t.hea just
80 they can spend aore on stylistic ohan.es to the front. The
unaiahtly equipaent should be dealt with now, at th~ ti.~ the club
i8 1n process of fandi~ overall i.prove.enta. 80 all the char~ee
oan be intelrated into tbe .odernization~
Thank: :you,