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Febru.ary ~ 7, 1994
HONORABLE CITY COUNC!L
Palo ~toJ California
3301 11 Caming Real· Appeal of Use Permit BevgcatiQD
Members of the Council!
RlPORT IN BEISr
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This is an appeal of the Zoning Administrator's decision to
revoke conditional use permit 73-UP-22. granted to an eating and
drinking use at 3901 B1 camino Real, last legally occupied by La
Cumbre_ The use permit al.lowB recorded music and dancing
associaeed with th~ on-site sale and consumption of liquor, beer
and vine.
on October 21, 1993. the ZO:dD9 Administrator scheduled a public
bearing to review Use Permdt 73-UP-22, prompted by complaints
chat La C'umbre was being operated in violation of use permit
condition number one, and in a manner detrimental to the public
health, safety and wel.tare, and because of a high number of
Police Department calls tor service. A more detailed account of
the issues prompting the review of the use permit and those
discussed at the Zoning ~ni8trator hearing is listed in the
attached Planning Commission staff report, dated January 26,
1994.
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The use permdt review is allowed under Section 1B.90,080 of the
Palo Alto Municipal Code (PAMCl and allows the Zoning
Administrator to hold a public hearing in the case where the
conditions of a use permit have not been complied with, or
evidence indicates that the use is being conducted in a manner
detrimental to the public hea.lth. safetl-r or welfare. FollOWing
the public hearing. the Zoning Admdnistrator may either modify or
revoke the permit.
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on November ., 1993 the Zoning AdnQnistrator rendered a decision
to revoke Use Permit 73-UP-22, based on ~he findings listed in
the attached decision. on November 12, 1993, Mr. Tenenbaum,
acting on behalf of the business operatcr, filed an appeal of the
Zoning Admd~istcator's decision. The appeal is included in the
Planning Cournission st.aff rep0rt.
PLbNNIHG QQMMISSION bCI10N
On February 9. 1994, the Planning Commission voted 6-1 (Beecham
voted no) to recommend that the City Council uphold the Zoning
Administrator's decision to revoke Use permit 73-UP-22. based on
the findings listEd below, and without prejudice co a new use
permit application for a similar use {draft excerpc minutes are
attached). A previous motion to modify the use permit conditions
and mocitor the use over a specified period failed 3-4 {Schmidt,
Schink, and Beecham voted yes) .
In ~achin9 their deci&io~, the Planning Commission determined
that neither the current busi,ness owner. Haroutune Auanessian,
nor his brother, Ari Auanessian, who indicated that he is under
contract to purchase the club. possessed the commitment to comply
with current or additional conditions of the use permdt. The
lack of t:nJst and ccmml.l:.ment of tbe owners and management was
enforced by the current owner's disregard for condition number
one of Use Permit 73-UP-22, Which is violated by providing live
music when only recorded music is allowed.
under questioning from several Commissioners, the prospective
owner stated that if all~d to operate under the curr@nt use
permit, the business wou2d continue to provide li~e music in
violation of condition number one. He also understated the
physical limitations of the site fer a use of the current club;s
intensity by stating that there were 100 on-site parking spaces
where onl.y 23 exist.
The Commission also based thei~ recommendation to zevoke ~be use
permit. on Police Depart.ment r:ecords. which indicate that calls
for service between Aug~st 1992 and August 199~ tota~ed 82, the
highest total for any establishment in the City during that
period. The violent nature of the incidects directly attributed
to La Cumbre and the frequency of calls for service poses a
threat to t_he public health. safety and "elfare~
RllCO!ti!OOlATION
The Planning ComGdssion recommends that the City Council uphold
the zoning Administratoz·' s decieion to re .... --oke Use Permit 73-1..TP-
22, based on the findings provided below.
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FINpINGS
l~ The existing use at its current location is detri~tal and
injurious to property an.:! impro,\...-ements in the vicinity~ and
is detrimental to the public healch, safety, and welfare, as
evidenced by the Barron Park and Ventura neighborhood
~sideD~s wbo testified at a public hearing that La Cumbre
and its patrons create high levels of noise, both from
within the building and on adjacent properties, excessive
litter and human waste throughout the area, and parking and
traffic prOOlems associated with the lack of adequa,te on
site parking. Neighbors who have be~~ involved in the
"?olice Department "ricle along" program and who have reviewed
the public Police Department records testified that they are
fearful ot crimdnal and riotous activities, including weapon
and drug related critoos associated wit.h the use. This fear
and redUced feeling of neighborhood security is exacerbated
by the lack of club management response to the neighborhood
concerns. The neighborhood testimony was corroborated by
Police Department records and testimony from Officers who
ha~.re responded to incidents at the subject property. The
Palo Alto Police Department testifi.ed that. La C'umbre
requires a disproportionate amount of Police Department
resources, which is evidenced by the 82 calls-for-service
occurring at the nightclub between August 1992 and August
1993, the highest total for any establishment in the City
during that period. Police also estimate there is probably
at least an equal number of peripheral calls~for-5ervice
attribut~ to the establiBhment as well. Not only are large
amounts of Police Department resources being consumed~ but
the violent nature of the calls poses a danger to respondin9
personnel, adjacent residents, .passersby, ~ La CUmbre
patrons.
2~ The existing use is not located, nor conducted in & manner,
in accord with the Palo Alto Comprehensive Plan and. the
purposes of Title 18 of the Palo ~to ~~icipal Code, in
that criminal activity including rioting, dl."".lg and weapon
possesBio~~ public drunkenness and personal assault6~ as
well as loud noiae, litter, lack of adequate parking
facilities, late hours of operation, and the large ~umber
and violent nature of calls-for-service to the Poli~e
Department associated with La Cumbre are not compatible with
adjacent residential and commercial land uses.
Additionally, the degradation of the adjacent neighborhoods
caused by this business is in direct conflict with the
intent of Program 4 of 'the Palo Alto Housing Blement whicb
states: ·Use the zoning Ordinance, other codes, and specific
plans to maintain high-quality neighborhoods.w
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3. The existing use has not been, and is not being, conducted
in compliance with ~he conditions set forth in Use Permit
73-UP-22 in that the establishment provides live music in
violation of condition number one which specifically allows
recorded. music only +
Respectf.ully submitted.
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Chief Planning Official!
zoning Administ~ator
KENNETH R. SCHREIBER
Director of Planning and
Community Environment
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Ci t.y Manager
Attachments: Pl~~ing Commission Staff Report dated 1/21/94
(with attachment~)
Draft Excerpt Planning Commdssion Minutes 2/9/94
cc! Planning Commission
garoutune Auaneseian, 3901 Xl Camdno Real, Palo A1to, CA
94306
Richard Sanchez, 3901 HI Camino Real, Palo ~to, CA 94306
Jim weaver, Coats Consulting, 9057 Soquel Drive, BId. C,
Aptos. CA 95003
Donald A+ Tennenbaum, 831 S. Winchester Boulevard, San Jose,
CA 95128
Tbeodore P. Dalden, 323 Millwood Driv~e, Millrae, CA 94030
Will Beckett, President, Barron Park Association
John Benza, Community Business Relation Committee
Denny P~trosian, Ventura Neighborhood Association, 443
Ventura Avenue, #2~ palo Alto~ CA 94306
John Joynt, 3589 Laguna Avenue, Palo Alto, CA 94036
Hugo Chabaneir, 3930 Ventura Court, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Fred Lakin, 512 Military way; Palo Alto, CA 94306
SUe Brown, 4-039 Manzana Lane, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Bill Bamburgen, 4039 Man~ana Lane, Palo ~to, CA 94306
Maria Gillrade, 340 Ventura Avenue, 17, Palo A1to. CA 94~06
Sheryl Lewis, 340 Ventura Avenue, 117, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Moira Penny~ 340 Ventura Avenue, #3, Palo Alto. CA 94306
David Chaltoo, 3875 Bl Centro, Palo Aato, CA 94306
Jacque Bunt. 438 Ventura Avenue, 87. Palo ~to, CA 94306
Trish Corl. 3883 El Centro Street, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Constance Littlefield, 4100 Ca~ Drive. Palo ~to, CA
94306
OGn Barskine, 268 Vent~ra Avenue. Palo ~to. CA 94306
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Ken Herling, 993 Los Robl~s Way, Palo ~to, C~ 94306
ad Jones, 543 Military Way, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Bitt Harvey, 3885 M3.gnolia, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Jill Depass, 734 Encina Grande, Palo Alto, CA 94.306
Sue Case, Senior Assistant City Attorney
Bill Mayfield, Seuior Assistant City Attorney
Lynne Johnson, Assistant Police Chief
Capt. Tom Merson, police Department
Mark Venable, Police Department
Lt. S".1e Mace, Watch Commander
Rich Cabrera, Ordinance Compliance Inspector
Joseph M. Colonna, Planner
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PREPARED BY:
PLANNING COMMISSION
JIIDUJII)' 21, 1994
PALO ALTO PLANNING COMMISSION
Nancy Maddox Lytle
STAFF REPORT
REPORT IN BRIEF: 3!lOi FJ Camioo RW: Appeal of !be Zoning Administrator',
decision Ie Wo'W oooditionaJ use pemriJ 73·UP·22, granted to an ealinj; and drinking use at
39O! E! Comioo Real, now occupied by La Cuml>rc. The use penni! allows m:onled music
and danciDa assocUtod wid! !be on-site sale and comumption of liquor, I>eer and wiD:.
Enyjmprrctgl " g=SMPt; Exempt from t!Ie pto':'isiom of the California EnviromnentaJ
Quality Act pursuant to Article 19, Section 15321, Enfon:emem ."'=Iions by ~
ABcncics·
Zooe Pistritt: cs
Fjlc Noo.: 73-UP·22
APPlICA"noN INFORMATION
Appellant:
Type of Application:
Dates:
DonoId Tennenboum
831 South W'mchesIcr Boulevard
San Jose, CA 9S 128
(408) 2444m
~ne Auanessian
L'RiIZ, Inc.
3901 FJ Comioo R.,.)
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Conditional Use Permit Appeal
Appeal """,j,'ed 11·12·93;
Application oomp1ete 11·12·93:
Mandatory action deadline ~
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Propeny Owner:
Asse<sor's Parcel Number:
Co:nprehens!ve Plan Designation:
Existing Land Use:
Surrounding Land Use:
PROJECf INFORMATION
Theodore Daldon
323 Millwood Drive
Millbrae, CA 94030
Service Commercial
Eating and DI'iIlkin@ Establishmeru
North;
East;
South:
West:
Commen:i2l!Residential
Motel
Importer/ Automob~e Service
RcstaurantlRetail
Project History: 00 October 21, 1993, !be Zoning -'"lministrator sclJeduIed •
revocationlmodific3tion bearing, prompted by <Xm1plain!s that La Cumbre was being operated
in a maIIIIOT Jetrimen!aI to the publi<; beaIIh, safety and welfare and because of • high
!IllDlber of Police »qJartmeot call. for service (refer II> attachod letb:r from Nancy Lytle to
Haroutune Auanessi.m, dated Seprember 27,1993). This action is allowed under Se<:tioD
18.90.080 of the Palo Alto Municipal Code (PAMC) am allows !be Zoning Administrator to
hold a public bea.oing in !be case wbcre !be conditions of • use permit have oot been
complied with, or evidence jndir;ates that tbr; use is being conducted in a manner dctrimemaI
10 !be public bealth, safety or welfare. fonowing!be poblic bearing, !be Zoning
Administrator may either modify or revoke the pennit.
At !be Ocwber 21, 1993 Zoning AdminisIrato<'s bearIng, public testimony was taken from
neighbors of tbe establishment, Donald Tenenbaum, attorney for !be business operator, am
City of Palo Alto Police Department rqm:sentatives (minules attacbcd). Tbe public heariDg
was closed, am on November 4, 1993 tbe Zoning AdministralOr reodered • decision to
revoke Use Permit 73-UP-22 (decision attacbed). 00 November 12, 1993, Mr. Tenenbaum,
acting on behalf of tbe business opcntor, filed an appeal of tbe Zoning Administrator',
decision (appeal appli<;ation and letter attacbed).
Current Opera!im: La Cumlm: com:otly operates • restaura1lllclub under Use Permit 73-
UP-12 (permit atlll.Cbod), gramfd on!uly 24, 1973 for !be on-site &a!e of liq\lO<, beer and
wine in CODjtm.."'tiOD with certain entertainment activities such as da.ot.ing and lhe prevision of
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recorded music. La Cumbn: received approtral of their use and occupancy perrnH 10 stan
bu.r;;iness on May 28, 1992. 1'"ht dub seT\lCS t'uod and drink, including alooholic. be .... eng'!s.
and also provides a dance floor with live music. There is .I cover charge tc enter the
establisbmem..
ANALYSlSOssUE§
RAWS far ReyagitiQn Hearing: As exp13iMd above, the Zoning Administrator initiated a
revocationlmodific:ation bearing process foe Use Pennit 73-UP-22 because of II11IIleroW
complaints regardlDg tbe actions of patrOIIS, parking, noise, litter and waste on and around
!he property, boon of operation, and Police Depanment ClUJ. for service, Issues
precipitating !he bearCIg and !bose disco1ssOO at tbe hearing are listed belo"",,
CaIJs for Service
Polia: Department =oRIs show that calls for service diI<ctJy attnbut<d to LA Cumbre
ber\veen August 1992 and August 1993 toWed 82. tbe highest total for any establislunent
cIuriI!g !bat period {refer to attached calls for servia: summary), Police also _It !hen: is
probably at least an oquaI llIlmber of pe.ipberal calls for service attributed to !he
establishment as wen, Police Depanment rocoRls show that La Cumbre g=tts • large
number of calls for service for vaJioo.a criminal acthities relat<d to patrOIIS including:
d1srutbances, figbIs. public d",ntennes •• and "'eapon and drug related crimes (refer to
.-1etters from Police Department), Within tbe last year, Police D<partmelll perwlUlOI
have responded to severallaxge figbts out:i<k of LA CumbIe, One fIgbt included
approximately 100 people, and took tbe efforts of the Palo Alto, Stauford, Mt. VIeW and Los
Altos Police Departmeuts as wen as tbe c.ilifornia ffigbway Patrol to control tbe situation.
As • ",""It, five people were I3ke1I to !be bospitaI with Ollis and stab wounds, Police also
report that eoc<JI,mers with extremely iDIoxicated patre", suggCSlS that tbe esmbUshment
ovenerves alcoholic beverages,
Police Department repres<matives ttstified at tile b<aring LlJat not only is a d;""l'roportionately
large amount of Police Deportment re<oUr<;CS being consuttJ<d by the activities on and around
!be La CUmbre me, but that tile violent natUre of the calls JlO'CS a danger 10 I'e'POnding
persmmel, adjacent residents, passersby and La Cumbre patmru;, Several neigbbors ... ho
ha"" puticipated in !he Police Deputmen! "rid:: along" program also leStified to seeing
>ioleul: behavior exillOiled by La Cumbre p.'rons. ~.any resident! Il:5tifled !bat they have
lost all !Ie1ISe of security or safety in tbeir ..,igbborbood as a resull of tile violent behavior
""""We<! wiih La Cumbre Aftl:r reviewing !he public Police Depanmem n=rds regarding
inciden!s at La Cuml>re, ,.,igbb0r5 ttstifIed that they are fearful of continuing and escalating
crimiJlaI and riotous activities within their ,.,igbborboods.
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Parking
La. CUmbre does DOt have I\dequate on-sire parking facilities to accommooate the number of
patrons served by the club, As a result, patrons park their vehicles in [be All American
parking lot across EJ Camino Real and on Venrura Avenue. This parting arrangement poses
a potentially dangerous siblation for motorists and patrons as they cros.-s EI Camino Rcal mid
block, wit!lcut benefit of. ttalfi.: Signal. Additionally, because tile All American Market is
elOse.l at the time La Cumbre patrons are utilizing the parking lot, tIlere is no supervision or
monitnring of the activities in tile lot. It was alleged that pamms loiter within the parking lot
and lilaC it bas become • "h<!I spot" for problems wilen La Cumhre closes for !he evening.
Parking On resideIU.ial streets leads to noise complaims as patrons rerum. to their vehicles
after the club cklses.
UH:k. of Management Control
On October 9, 1992, the Department of AlcoOOlic Beverage Control (ABC) sent. warning
notice 10 L'Ritz, lnI;orpora!«l, li<=see for 3901 El Camillo Real, informing tIlem that
variau:; complaints agaiDst La Cumbre and its patrons bave been klgged (refer to attacbed
let!=; from ABC). The complaints listed in tile lcttcr basically mau:h !bose presented at the
Zoning AdJninis!rotor!l:aring, including fights, and cIisutrt>anca 10 tile surrounding
n<ighborbood. lbe letter reminds tile Ucensee lIlat tIley 'are UI1der • continuing duty 10
properly supervise aod prevent such occurrences." As evidenced by public t<stimony, these
_ CO!lIinue 10 occur more tbao. year a&r the ABC', warning. This lack of oontrol
over the actiuns of tbeir patrons sbows an inability or unwillingness on tile p.,t of tile
owuernup and J1llUI3gemenl to affect proper =wily mcaswcs for the p_ of the
community.
LitD:r and Human Waste
The City received complaints related 10 litter and human waste on and around residentW
properties in the Vemura and Barron Pari: ncighbodloods. In their letter to the La Cumbre
management, datIld September IS, 1993, the Barron ParI: Association listed among tbeir
issues concerning the establishment an allegation that patrons have been witnessed nrinating
in public and vomiting on sidewalks and bushes (letter attacbed). Testimony was given at the
bearing that human waste is found on n:sideatial properties adjacent to La Cumbre and that
litter is consistently found in the street, on private property and in the All American parldng
lot across El Camino UaI, whict! is used by La Cumbrc patrons. Litter and InIman waste
wilhin the area is z serious problem, ODe IDaC can degrade the-residents ~ way of life and
dnmatically redo""" the enjoyment of their property.
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Hoon of Operation
The Crt)' received cmnplainLs that the clu~'s hours of operation arc not comp&(ible with the:
l'C'Sidential uses in the area. Use Permit 73-UP-22 does DOl; limit the bours of operation
The only time restriction affecting the club is me ABC's 2:00 am limitation on serving
alooholic beverages. The club's closing time between 2:00 and 2:30 am, in combination
with patrons parting in .Ihe Ventura neighborhood and All American pamng 10< erode
contlicts with adjacent residential uses. II is alleged thaI patrons continue to loiter w,thin Ihe
All AlDerican parldng 101 and on VC11IUra AvClllJC IODg after the club bas closed for !he
evening.
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Residents of Ihe Ventun; and Bamm P1IIk neighborhoods alleged that noise from La Cumbre
during opentti<m and from patrons returning to thoir vehicles and loitering in !be street is
excessive and degrades !beir quality of life. Neighbors compliined of riotous noi.se on
private property and being awalrened at 1:30 and 2:00 am by patrons 'yelling and screaming
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Uve Music
La Cumlne provides live music wile. lheir use permit specifically aDows w;o(ded music
only. TIle club's mauagemem has been informed of this oonconformiIy but contiwcs 10
provide liw bands in violation of conditioII !lIDIIber one of Use Permit 73-UP-22 (refer 10
a_ letter from Richard c:atmra). The Zooing AdminL<trUor did DOl considen:d this •
primary reason for revoking tho use pennit. However,'" <Vidence<! by !be _ony of Mr.
Teoonhaum and further supp<>rled by statements in Jim Weaver', letter (discussed below in
Ihe ).....,. Relatoc! ID !lie Appeal section of this report). !be type of music supplied does bave
... impact on the _ of patrons and !he distance !bey are v.illing 10 travel for
entertainment.
Mr. TeJlellbaum indicated in his testimony that because La Cumbre and previous club< bave
provided live =nIertainmcm for Ihe past 20 years and that !be use pennit does not specifically
prohibit live entertairnnent, it is pennitted by tile City. This is simply oot !be case. No
illegal use i, petDlitted or 'grandfatbered" reganIlcss of bow long it bas bee. in. operation.
furtlIermore, use pennits are onabllng, meaning !bey specifK:ally list !be activities that a.rc
allowed on a site and !be conditions 10 whicb !bey a.re subject The mere fact that • use
permit does "'" specifically prohibit • non-pennitted activity _ not imply that activity is
permitted.
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\ Iws &elNql to lhe Aypeal:
La Cum"",', appeaIl<tter bases their appeal of !he revocation on the assertions that t/-.<
Zoning A<iministrator proceeded without full authority of !he law, that the fmdings did n<>t
support the de'cUiion to revoke the permit and that evidence was improperly included at !he
bearina. The appeal leiter coDtains no discussion supporting these assertions, l<ading the
Zoning Administrator to believe that they ~ merely a matter of opinion a:ith 00 facruaI
basis for discussion of the issue< presented.
The revocation hearing was set pursuao! to Section 18.90.080 PAMe and was properly
noticed in aa:ordanco with Section 18.90.030 PAMe. The rigbllo provide public testimony
at the bearing was aifonled to.1I al1tDdees woo desired 10 speak, including the club',
attorney and manager. All evidence was presented and included in a manner consistent w:th
the governing IaWl. The decisioo to !evoke U", Permit 73·UP-22 is supported by the
findings Iisu:d below, which an: supported by the entire public record.
An additional letter from Jim Weaver of Coats Consulting, a privat< consultant CODlraC!ed by
La Cum""', was received by the Cit) on December 21. 1993 (letter attached). This letter
provid<s the club with recommeodations imended to bring it "into confOi1llalll% with the use
permit' and 'go a loog way toward eliminating this use as a nuisance.' The Zoning
AdminisIJatO!' bas reviewed these recoI>1lllClldations and has deu:rmined that they wiU not
effectively reduce, to an acceptable level. lhc problems a..'\SOCiatr.d with the operation of La
Cumbre. The measures lisled in the letter may temporarily reduce the complain!!; and call'
fO< senice _ to the club and its paIroilS, but the club', managemc:lll and own<nhip
have lIDl exhibit<d a proflCienc) to maintain the high level of control _ to implement
and sustain the: recomttJtmdptions for the life of t!le use.
Additionally, ~ns such IS a1t<ring the style of music, increasing the price of
alcobo!, increasing the co,,,, charge and employing. dress code Ie ",igoifJCaD1ly change and
improve the type ofclicnb:Ic", as SIlggC5t<d by !hi: club', consultatIl, are genonilly not
enforceable tbough use permit conmoons, and migbl be considered discriminatory and
uncoostitutiooal.
RECOMMENPA TION
Based 00 the above fUlding" staff recommends thaI !hi: Planning COOlDlission recommend
that the City COUIlCil uphold the Zoning Administrator" decision and revol<e Use Pennit n
UP-22 00-1 on the fmdings provided below.
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FINDINGS
1. The existing use at its ~flI location is detrimental and tDjurious to property
and improvements in the vicirJty. and is detrimenlJ!l to the public health.
safei)'. and welfare. as evidenced by the BarTOo Park and Venrura
neigbborbood .... idents woo testified at • public bearing that La CUmb", and
i", patrons create high levels of noi,.. boIh from within the building and 00
adjacent propcrti<.s, excessive litter and human ...... .e throughout the area, and
parking and traffIC probJems .. sociol<d with the lack of adeqIlate oo·,ire
parking. Neiglllxm woo baye been involved in the Police Department "ride
iikJns' program and who bave reviewed the pu~lic Polia Department records
te>tif!ed that they are fearful of criminal and riotous _vrue., including
weapon and drug related crimes associated with the use. This fear and
_ feeling of GOighborbood securiJy is exacert>ate<l by the lad.: of club
~ response to the neighOOrbood concerns. The oeighbothood
testimony W&S corrobora!ed by Police Department records and _oy from
0If1O<rS who bav. respomded 10 incidents at the SUbject property. The Palo
Alto Poli<e Department testified that La CUmbre requires • disproportionate
amount of Polia DepartmcIl1 resoun:es, which is evideD<:ed by the 82 ~.
for·service occurring Ii the oightclub between August, 1992 and August, 1993,
the bigbost lOla! during that period. Police also _ there is probably at
1e.ast an equal WOlber of petipbeial calls-for-scrvice attributed to the
esmblishmem 115 weD. Not only are large amounts of Polia Department
n:srnm:es being COIlSUDI<d, but the viole!ll nature of the calls poses • claDj!er to
responding perNOODOl, adjacent res_, pass=by, and La CumIm: patrons.
2. The existing use is not located nor coIKiucted in a maJlIIU in accord with the Pa!o
AllO Comprebonsive PIm aod the _ of Title 18 of the Palo Alto Municipal
Code, in that criminal activity in:1udlng rioting, drug and weapon ~on, public
druokemtes.s and personal assaultS, as .... 11 as loud ooise. litter. Ia.:k of adequate
parking facilities, late bows of operation, and the large JDDDber and violent ".!Ure of
caIls-for-service to the Pelice Departmem associau:d vritb La Cumbre are DOt
compatible with adpcen! residential and commercial Land uses. Additionally, the
degradation of the adjacent n<ighOOrhoods cau.«d by this business is in direct conf1ict
with the intent of Program 4 of the Palo AllO Housing Element which st>.tcs: "Use the
Zoning Ordinance, other codes, and speoiflC plans ID maintain high-quzliljl
neighborhoods. "
3. The existing US<' bas not been and is 110{ being conducted in compl"""", with the
ronditio::s set forth in Use Permit i3-UP·22 in that the est&blishmem provides live
music in violation of condition number one which specifICally allows f'eC()rded music
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A!!4Cbments :
Location Map
Letter from Nancy Lytic, daU:d 9/27/93 (witbout attacluncnts)
Excerpt Minutes of the 10/21193 Zoning Admini>1rator M«tlng
Zoning Administrator De<:ision, daU:d 11/4/93
Appeal Application and Letter
Use Pmni! 73-UP-22, gtared 7/24n3
Calls For Service Summary
Leum from Police Department
Leum from AIcobolic Beverage Control (ABC)
Letter from _ Park AssooiAtion, dated 9/15193
LeItEr from Richard Cabrem, dated 8/9/93 (without attachment)
Letter from Tun W""vcr, daU:d 12117193
LeIter from DooaId Tenenbaum, dated 1161n
LeIter from Will Beckett, President, Barron Park Associativo,
dated 7/31193
LeIter from Barroo Park Association, dated 10/20/93
LeIter from Stan Bordsgaray, da!<:d 10120193
Letter from Lynnie Melem, dated 10/20193
Neigbbortlood Snrvey P=enu:d It Zoning Administrato< Meeting
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Coojg Sent To:
HaroulUOe A_ian, 3901 EI camino Real, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Richard Saocbez, 390 1 El camino Rea!, Palo Alto, C .... 94306
Jim Weaver, Coats Consulting, 9057 Soquel Drive. BId. C,
ApIas, CA 9S003
Donald A. Tonoenbaum, 831 S. Wincb<:ster Boulevm1,
San J""" CA 95128
S ... ea.c, Senior Assistant City Attorney
Bill Mayfield, Senior Assistant City Attorney
Lyme JoImson, AssiotBD! Police Chief
Capt. Tom Morson, Police Departmem
Marl<: Venable, Po!."" Department
Lt. Sue Mace, Watch Commander
Rid! CabRmI~ Compl;'"", 1!ISjJ<C'.or
Josepb M. Coloma. Pl.anner
n-dore P. Daldon, 323 Millwood Drive, Mill...,. CA 94030
Will IIockett. President, Barron Par!< Association
101m IIeoza, Conununity Business RoI";o. Committee
Denny Pctrooian, Ventura N";sJ!borlx;od Association, 443 Ventura
Avenue, 12, Palo Alto, CA 94306
101m Joym, 3Sg<) Laguna Avenue, Pakl Alto, CA 94036
Hu&o Cbabaneir. 3930 V=ra Cou."l, Pakl Alto, CA 94306
Fred Ukin. 512 Mililary Way, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Sue Brown, 4039 MlInzana !...am, Palo Alto, CA 901306
Bill Hambwgen, 4039 Manzana !...am, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Maria GiIlI1llie, 340 VODtwa Avenue, 17, PaJo Alto, CA 94306
Sberyl Lewis, 340 VentIml A~, 117, Pakl Alto, CA 94306
Moin PemJy, 340 VeDIura AveDIlO, 13, Palo Alto, CA 94306
David Cbalton, 3875 EI Centro, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Ja.;que HIUlI, 438 Ventma Avewe, 17, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Trim Cod, 3883 EI Centro Street, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Con<tm;e UttIefJeld, 4100 Campana Drive, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Don Eariline, 268 Ventura Avc:T!lJe, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Km Herling, 993 Los Robl .. Way. Palo Alto, CA 94306
Ed Jooes, 543 Mililary Way, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Bin Harvey, 3885 Magoolia, Palo Alto, CA 94306
T!I! Dopass, 7~ Eneina Gnmde, Palo Alto, CA 94306
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September 27, 1993
Harcutune Auanessian
OWn!r, La Cumbre
3901 [1 Camino Real
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Dear Mr. Auanessian:
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City: of Palo Alto
Departmemo(YWL'ling and
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Subject; Rt::voc.ation Hearing on October 21, 1993 at 3:00 pm fDr
~s. P'rm;t 73-UP-22, 39Qlo3903 [1 Camino Rpal. Palo Alto, CA
Pursuant to Pal~ Alto Municipal Cod~ S~ction 18.90.080, the Zoning
Administrator ~as scheduled a public nearing to consider the revocation
or modification of Conditional Use Permit 73-UP-22 (attached), granted
to a previous use on t~e site of your business establishment, La Curnbre.
The yse permit allows on~sit(!o Si1e al",d consumption of liquor, bee'!" and
wine, and associated entertainment acti~iti~s including recorded music
ind dancing. The public hearing is scheduied for Octo~r 21, 1993 at
3:00 pm, in the City Council Conference RoofU, Civic Center. 250 Hamiltcn
Avenue, Pa10 Alt~, Californfa.
Schedl!l iflg ~f this hearing-was prompted by comp1 ilints that your
establishment is not operating in c.ompliance ~ith the provisions of the
use permit listed above, and ttlat it is operating in. a v,anner that is
detrimental to the public healt~~ safety and ~elfilre.
These .complairlts appear to be suhstant~a.ted by Police Oepartment
records, which indicate t~at La Cumbre generates a large number ~f
calls-for-service for vaiious distwrbances. Withir. the last year,
Polic€ Department personnel have responded to several l~rge fights
outside your establis~~nt. One fight included approximately 100
people~ a~d took the efforts of the Palo Alto, Stanf~rd, Mi. View and
los Altos Police Departments as well es the California Highway ~atrol to
t:.o~trol the situation. As a result, 5 people were taken t~ the hospital
w,th cuts and stab wounds. Police also report that encounters with
extremely intoxicated patrons suggests that the establishment oye~serves
alcoholic beverages.
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PaloA1&cl,CA9nD
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4lS.3:!9.2240Fax
The following i~ a summary of the caI1s-fo!"-senl"ice and complaints
received by the City thdt a~e related to the operation of your
establishment:
.,. _Police have responded to numerol'S cails-for-service directly
related to La Clrnlbre and its patrons, including th~ follow1ng:
armed ro~bEr)', drunk ii1 public, narcotics, public urination, large
fights (100+ peop1e). excessive noise y minors drinking alcohol,
hit-and-run dri¥lng. cor.cealed weapons} and ~thers. large numbers
of patrons leaving the establishment, routinelY violate traffic
laws and post a danger to theln.se1ves and other motorists.
... La Cumbre patrons are alleged to vomit Or'!. sidewalks 2nd bushes,
10iter on neighborhood streets, urinate in public, and cause
disturbances on and around your site.
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Due to the lack Df adequate on-site parking, La Cumbre patrons
park. their \.'ef\icles. in Ule All American park.ing lot across El
Camino Real and on neighborhood streets.
La Cumbre (ontinues to provide live music, when yo~r conditional
use permit specifically allows recorded mus.ic only.
La Cumbre's bours cf operation (closing at 2·2:30 am) are not
compatible ~ith the residential uses adjacent to your site and the
areas in which patrons park their vehicles_
These issues, as well as those ~aised by members of the public, will be
discussed at a pu~lic hearjng on October 21~ 1993. ]f it is fou~d that
th! business is operating out of complianc! with the conditions of your
use permit or 1~ a manner t~at pos~s a threat to public b~alth, safety
or welfare. your use permit will be subj~ct to revocation. The City has
the abi1ity to m~jfy existing condi~ions or impose additional
conditions tc assure that your use operates in compliance with the
Zoning Code, and in a manner that is nat detrimental to the publi(
health, safety and welfare. If you have any questions reiated to the
information in this Jett~rt please contact me at
32g-2321.
Sincerely,
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HANC~KADDOX LYTLE
C.nief Phnning Official/Zoning Administrator
Enclosure
cc: Sue Casel Senior Assistant City Attorr.ey
Bill Hayfie1d. Senior AssistaMt City Attorney
lynne Johnson, Assistant Pel ice Chief
Capt. Torn Merson, Police Department
Mark. Venable, Police Department
Lt. Sue Mace, Watch Commander
Rich Cobren, Ord1Mnce Compliance IlIsp.ector
Joseph M. Cclcnna, Planner
Th~od~re P. Da'~cr, 323 ~ill~ood Ori~e, Mil1rae, CA 94030
Richard Sanchez, 3901 E1 Camino ~eal, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Donald A. Tenenbaum, 831 S. Winchester Boulella.:r-d, San Jose, CA
95128
"Iill 8edc.ett, Presider,t, Blrr~n Park AssociatiEln
John eenzi, Commun~t1 Business Relation Committee
De"ny Petrcsian, Ventura Neighborhood Association, 443 Ventura
Avenue, '2, Palo Alto, CA 94306
John Joynt. 3589 laguna Avenue, Palo Alto, CA 94036
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ZOtllHG ,~DHINISTRATOR HEARING
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3iOl £1 Camino P.ea'. La Cumbre
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N3ncy lytle. Zoning Aclministratcr: The second item on Yur agenda \5 3901
[1 Ca.i~o Real. Pursuant to Sectio~ 18.90.080 of the Municipal Code, we
~aye set this pu~lic hearing to consider t~e modtficatjon or revocalior. of
Condition.l Use Permit 73-UP·22 granted to in e.ting and drinking use at
3901 E1 C~inQ Real, now occupied by La tumbre, ~~icn allows recorded
BUsic and dancing associated with the ~n·s1t! sale and consumption of
li~or. beer and wine. This US! is in Zone District CS, Ho environmental
aS$eSSMe~t is required. We will now hear from those who wish to speak.
John Joynt. 3$89 l39una. Palo A)to: [have twa things I would like to say
in terms of demon~trat;ng this fact, a fact that the community 1S
painfully aware of, and it is very clear that the Cumbre management team
ha~ a total disregard for the fact t~at they are operating in a ~nner
that is d,.triment3l to the public health, safety and welfare. ] would
like to sh~ two ways in which that is demonstrated. One is tnat we ~ad a
publl< meeting "on September 12 in South Palo Alto. We had SO or 60 people
from tne Ventura neighborhood, the Barron Park neighbor~ood~ and others.
O~ring th.t time, the own~r of la Cumbre expressed t~at he had had
absDlutely no clue is to what was going on. This is extr~'y disturblng
iq that the police call-far-service records show that since li Cu.bre has
been there. they have had numerous calls. We have the stat;,tic$ to show
that, as »ell. He ~a$ present to learn, and to our dls.ay. nothing was
done about it. [n fact, a mont~-and-a-~alf has nGW passed. and the
statfstics for police calls are up, as th!y have been.
S~bseq~ent to tnat, [ did a ride-along with a police ~fficer. Ouring the
rfde-along on SepteMber 4-5. fro. t~e hours of 9 p.m. to 7 a.m.~ it was i
long d~ and Aight for ~, but J ~ad tD witness for myself what was going
on with La Cuabre. What r wlnt to do is to relay what I saw on what was
prDbably a relatiyely Quiet evening. There were d~unken aen and women
walking a"d running across E1 Camino at one o'clock in tne uorning.
two o'cloc.k in the morn1ng. [don't k.now how any of them did not get hit,
becaus~ cars were stepping and brake lights were gOing on. In addition to
that, J witnessed at first nand 10ud cusic. rt was really shocking to s~e
tha:t, since everyone neal"tIl' is in bed sle~.ping while t"'is is going on.
And it is allowed tD go en.
The pDl~ce officer and] went insjde La Cumbre at 2:]5 a.m. He aSKed for
the aanager. The perso~nel inside had no clue as to wh~ the manager was.
That was disturbing, because outside, ~~e could hear the loud music.
radi9s blasting, and alsQ a co~sfderab'e amount of glis5 and broken
bottle$ in tke parking lot. That eYening, as we truised around, there
were cars a11 over the place. I think this is probably a quiet evening.
Inside, they nad no clue as t~ what was going on inSide. Ther~fcre~ the
community has to defend itself~ The police officers are call~ every
day. Therefore, what the City of Pilo Alto is doing is spending ooney to
keep in order what this busines~ owner (annat do. My persona1 request is
that the permit be revoked immediately.
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I Wi]] Beckett .• 189 Baker Av~nue. ~a1o Alto: I am here representing the
aoard of ___ the Sarron flark Ass.ociation. We hel d a meet in') last week {In
Tuesday, and approved a letter which you shvuld have a copy of+ It
basicaily su~rizes o~r concerns about La Cumbre and QUi hope that you
~t allow this use. 1 have been lnvolved in many issues ~ver the 20 years
that I have lived in Barron Park. Only two times have I ~een thf) kind of
rallying support around concern in the nei9hbor~ocd. We sent flyers
throughout t~e Barron Park area for the meeting that was he1d on September
12th, and ended up captur1ng a large portion of t~e Ventura n~ighborhood
Just by Qsmosis. They got wind of the meeti~g. and .any people showed up_
I did not do I ride-I'o~g with the police, however, others in the
neighborhood did, and they had much more hair·raising stories tQ tell
about what was goin9 an. It is surprising ta me that th1S kfnd of
activity has been a11o~d to go on as long as it has. We stressed fairly
heavily at the meeting on September 12 that it was extremely important
that the .anag~nt get a hold on this~ It is my understanding th3t there
have continued to be fncidents t~ere and there does not seem to be iny
effort to get back to John Senza~ the community business relations
chai~an. He has met with them, has talKed with them, &nd is~ed them to
92t batk with him. and they have not gotten back t~ him. So there does
~ut seem to be an effort on the p,rt of La C~mbre to try and correct these
problems. Therefore, I thfnk y~u need to find some other method for
sol~ing the problems.
John RenZi. 3745 la Selva Drive, Palo A1to: may be one of th~ newest
residents ~resent i~ the room, ~ay1ng moved in a~d tak~n occupancy of our
house on La Selva in May of tnis year. I very quickly learned of some Df
the issues i~ tne neighborhood~ Rather than fleeing from thea, I have
c~Dsen the opportunfty, at thi encouragement of Will and John, to get
lnvolved and try and vork through those. It has been an fnteresting
several months. 1 hi~e learnerl a Tot. [ha~e gotten to work with many
people on both sides here, and I have ap~~~cfated tnat opportunity.
One of the Ict~Vlties that I did participate fn is tne police ride-along
progrial. I ha",'e bad two ride-alongL It is .. ~ excel lent opportuni ty for
the police department to worKJrtith the c.OQIJlunity, and (Clr cOlmlunity
reSidents t~ become aware of what is going on. I applaud the police
department for offering this oPPGrtunity. It is an eye·opener and is not
for the baShful or the shy. Yo~ do see life as it soaetimes exists in the
wee moraing bours.
One incident in partic~Tar that I recall ;s I fight at la Cumbre which
spilled out onto El Camfno. into the traffic, as sever.' of the patrons
progressed across t~e street until the pol!ce dispersea them. There were
approxl.ately six to eight officers trying to interrupt the fight ir.
process. As they would split people apart, they would cross the street in
t~ aidst of traffic. rn this partitula~ case, one of the pol~ce d~s
p~eeded across the street to try and stop the fights that were beginning
on t~e other side in tne All American parKing lot, where many of t~e la
Cu.bre patrons ~ark. Just sitting in the car, it is a very scary
sttu~tion tG wat~n. I think we are all familiar with some of the TV shows
that depict re.l life police activity, and that is the s.fest ~'Y to
obsl!rve 1 t .
In the course of t~at. I did stand outside of the tar for awhile, and
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entered into I ratner int~rest1n9 (onversation w~th one of the patrons
from L .. C'Umbre, who said, isn1t this t-.etter than sitting at home and
watching TV? This ~iS at two in the aor~in9. I did not neces3artly share
that view, ~ut J was not about to argue the point. That was one
perspect;ve, and that fs an eye ~itness perspective.
1 di~ a8et w~tn Rich6rd Sl~(h~z of li Cumbre 3e~~rll wee~s after th~
September lZth meeting that tbe garron Park Assoclatio~ had with various
business OWfIers. Ric.".ro and I had a very pleasant 9 very plJrposeful
~t'ng, to di$cUSS the neighborhood issues, which we documented. r can
s~r1ze from that meeting. He is a very p~Tite and genteel individual.
There Ir! no personal aniGOsities there. We walked to the area of the
propertYt wilked down Venturi to describe some of the parKing issues
t~.re. Curi~s the cnurse of about In hour &nd lS minute me~ting, ~e did
outline several wery va11d ideas, I felt~ that he was p~Dposi~g as
possible remedies~ I was not in a positiQn to apPrQwe those or recommend
that he take action on them, but just to re1"force that there are issues
that the neighbarhood has with La Cumbre, and if he beiieved that they
were possible solution~. that he ought to go forward with them. As ~ill
indicated, I ~ave not rec!iv&d any fol1owcp ir, which he committed tQ
dQcument those and fAX t~em to me so that we m,ght poss1bly ~ork together
with the city to find a MutYal resolut~on. .
As for tn. police statistics that Wiil ,11uded to. to the best of ~
Knowledge, during t~. period AU9ust, 1992 to A"Qust, 199), there were 84
calls for service. 32 percent of them involving assau1t a~ battery.
A~proxi .. tely 26 percent of th .. Involved lange groups g.thering which
requ1red police attention. and/~r loud music. Alcohol and drug abuse
resulted in approxieately 21 percent of t~ose calls~ and ~1scellaneous~ a
catchall, takes up about 20 percent of the calls. Since the September 12
~eting. I ~ a~are of ipproxi.alely 10 cills for service. I would
indicate th.t I am now walking the neIghborhood at night just to see What
is actually reported and what is not. I persQnally believe that there are
a lot IIOre ll1cidents that are not reported th-at require poi ice
zsslstance. I think many Qf the officers would confirm that~ as well.
Tbere were ten reported since our September 12 ~eting, in wh~c~ the owner
expressed interest and concern in addreSSing the problem. That represents
a nigher t~an nOMlil one-year iverag~ of calls for service. So that is
particularly alarming, especially since we have had ~is interest and
attention to this.
In closf~9~ I person~ll1 believe~ and th! Community and Business Relati~ns
COIPittee of the Barron ParK AssQtiatjon believes, that this business
represents a clear ~~ present danger, not only to the reSidents and
neignbors within the e~virQr~nt and to passersby on £1 Camino, but also
to la tumbre patrons. lhere is 1itt1e or nothing tnat the management or
owner has done, in ~y opinion, in tbe last 30 days. 1 would strvngly
rec~nd that t~e Zoning Ad~inistrator take immediate action_ If this
were a co~rt, we would probab1y request an injunction. because I do
be1ieve there Is physical threat to residents and community. Jf the last
)0 d.ys Is .'1 lnditation of what t~e next 30 oight be as we go through.
process, I am concerned that we may end up with some worse statistics.
Thanl< you.
Sheryl lewis, 340 Ventura Avenue, '17, PalO Altp:
at this address for about a year-and-a-half nQW~
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J came here from Ohio in
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May of 1992. As in i"cidental comment. I ended up having to spend the
night in the hate' rig~t behind La Cumbre for one ni9ht before my moving
van had arrived. I said that I needed i quiet place to spend the night
after travell ing across the COl.int,..~. They said, oh sure, no pr-oblem. r
ended ug at 10 o'clock leaving and 90i~g down the road to a Day's Inn
beciuse"0' tnt noise it La Cumbre, and r didn't get my ~ney back. I was
absolutely mortifi!d to move into my place and have my bedroo~ window open
and be able to hear the noise frD~ that establishment throughGut the
night. Th~t has caused me to buy ear plugs and to nave to close my window
during t~e s~r. which has not been terribly conv!nient. So it has been
soaeth;~g that I have just gritted my t@etn over and try to deal with it
Ind accept it. It Is rather validating to find out that there Ire i lot
Qf other people 1" my neig~borhood who feel the same way and who are
concerned about the envirnnment that la Cumbre is establisn1ng in our
neighborhood. There are a lot of families ~ith chi1~ren tnat live in t~1s
neighborhood, and I nave noticed police cars on my street a lot. On the
one nand, I have felt comforted. ~nONing that the police are nearby, but
at the sa.e tjme. learning a little more at~ut it and se~ing the display
of beh~viors that are Dccurr;ng by the patrons of La Cumbre, it seems that
the po1icE are there as a necessity to protect the people who live in the
neighborhood, J hive a lot of concern about tnat.
I have driven do.~ the street a ~umber of times and had peopie just
walklng out 1n front of yo~ as you ire driving your car, going iato the
place. I have seen people having their car stopped in the street with a
1.rge group of people hanging o~t and talking to people in the car,
clusing me to drive out of the way to g~t around them. There is pretty
.uch disregard by the people who go into La Cumbre that tney are in
SODeone else's neighborhood. I have had frjends come to ~isit and r ha~~
felt concerD about their iehicles. [have moved my car onto the street
and nave let them park in my garige. I have an o1d car and I do not c~re
if it gets dioged up, but I just don't feel .afe. I do oot feel tn.t I
could say~ oh no problem, 1t is a great n!lghborhood, because of the
things that hap~en. Tnere ire OCcurrences ~en people's radios have betn
turned up real loud as they park ~ the stre~t. There are large groups of
people .tandiog 00 the street and talkiog lOUd at two o'clock in the
IIOnlhg. It is really annoying. [ali glad to k.nDW that tnere are
residents in my neighborhood who have hken the time to try a.nd W1)rk
things :)ut with the-LI Cuf'Ab'·i! management. Just tne fact that ttley a;'e not
present today representing themselves is a clear indication of their lack
of intention to try a~d work it o~t with the commun1t1. 1 ha~e never been
to this b~ilding befor~. r have had t~ take time off frOM work. [am not
gettipg ~ald for being here, but I feel strongly about the situation. ]
found ~y way into the buildins and was able to get here at 3 o~clock, and
I am usually late for everything. So I think it is a rea1 indication Qf
the attitude of the management th.t they did not bother to show up. Thank
you.
Constance Littlefield, 4]00 Campana prive, Palo Alto; ] live two blocks
off of El Camino, ind I do not feel it is a safe place to live with
children. There is no excuse for that k.ind of behavior going on. I do
not feel safe wit~ that there. We are in the process of trying to sell
our ho~se, because we feel that Barron Park is no longer a desirable place
to live. because of La Cumbre and several ~ther things on E1 Camino. !
just hope that soaethiog can b< done.
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N.ria Gillmore, l4Q Ventura Avenye, ": ] do not have i lot of tnings t~
add, except that the nOise at La C~mbre does not stop at 2 o'clock when La
Cusbre closes. From 2 o'clock to 3 o'clnck, they are drinking beer? they
oro e.ting food from Taco Bell and Jae< in the Box. They are liter.lly
partying until 3 o'clock in the aorning. The garbage in the mGrning 15
ridiculous up and down Ventura. We ill pick up garbage. There has been
yr1ne. T~ere has been womit. We just ire reilly tired of it. We should
not have it on any street anywherE, let alone in Palo Alto. At the
September 12 meeting. it ~IS s~ggested they institute noise control,
security people to clear the streets after they c70se and a garbage
cle&n~p. They said, Oh yes, we will. Tne owner was going to talk to
everybody and get something done. We have not seen ~1m coope~lte. He is
~Dt a good nl!ighbor waft U$. Whtm you have this kind of I turnout of
people who are trying to be good neignbors. we should ~ave somebody witM a
use pen.it wno is also cooperative with the neig~bQrhood. The crime ~as
gone up. We nave undesi~ables on the streets. We have breaki~$ on friday
and Saturday night.. It has got to come to an end. If the only •• y to
come to an end is to revoke his license, th~n I thjnk you should do it.
Bill Hambyrgen. 4039 Hanzan. Lin~, P;lp Alto: J a= not going to add to
tne incident list. I de not have anything to l~d that is w!ry different
from what you haye heard+ I would hope that b~fDre the end of this
hearing, a representative frGC the pollee department would speak.
"$. lytle: That is their intention.
Mr. Hambyrgen: I really haye just one thought. I understand that ta
CUMbre is operating under a conditional use penalt and that tnis is not I
norwal sort of usage for t~1s portion of E1 Camino. I t~ink the burden i5
on the owners of L. Cumhre to de8Dnslrate why they should be .llowed to
cDntfnue to operate. We have all ~eird plenty of reasons why they should
not. J think that under the circ~stances~ th~ burden is on t~em as to
vhl they should be allowed to continue to operate, rather than Why it
should be revoked.
MQirt Penny. 340 ventura Avenug. '1: ] live in the same building as
Sheryl and Haria Gillmore, I guess what droye me here is that misery
loves company. When J ~ awaker.ed at two in the -arning, you feel pretty
heIple,s and alone. Thank good"e" my better judgDtnt has kept .. from
stonling outside in ~ skivvies and yelling and s~reaming at these people
who are yelling and screaming on the lawn ~ext door. if I were an
1apu1siye pers~n, r WQuld do that, even tho~9h it probablj would not be a
good ;d.a.
To share some of my own experiences~ I liye i" a downstairs apartment near
the front of the building at 340 Ventura. J a. wary rareiy bothered by
noise from t~e establishment itself. It does not seem to reat~ me on the
bottom floor~ Every once in a while, I hear I bass beat, but I hay! never
been bcthered by it. It is IIWstly He noise coming out of La Cumbre
between 1:30 and 2 in thf morning~ the peak ~ours. There has been riotous
noise on the lawn next door. It sounds like 20 guys yelling and screaming
at the top of their lungs. It sounds like i riot.
~s. Lytle: On the lawn next door at 316 Ventura?
Ms. Penny~ Yes. That is where it sounds like the nOise i$ coming from.
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It might be out on th~ street, but it sounds like it is 25 feet from my
bedro~ window. J have heard threats being e~changed. I seemed to have
dev&loped I talent for integrating this noise into my dreams for awhi1e!
Then] woyld realize it is really nappening. So nOlse is the Number One
problem, is far is I am concerned. This is not mentlDning the parki~g and
the litter problem. You feel rip~ed Qff when you come home anytime after
9 p.m. on a Friday or Saturday night, a"d you live there~ but you can't
find a parking place. I have parked on Plrk Ayenue. A1so, the litter.
~ave lived on this street for f~ur-and·a·half years. and the litter
proble. is • lot worse than it use~ to be.
in ali fairness , since that Septel'lb!r 12 !lleeting, I have not heard .any
~re noise, but I ~ only speaking for r$self.
payj~ Chalton. 3875 El C.ntro. Palo Alt2: I am tal~;ng on behalf of the
Barron Park Association. As part of our Udng. we did pass out a flyer
announcing this ~etin9 and asking people to COMe. Also. there was a
petiticn in one of th~ establishments for people to sign which said, ·We.
tne undersigned residents liviog near La Cumbre night club, have become
increas1ngly concerned acaut disturbances caused by its patron$. We
belie"e Ulat La ClJ8Ibre (lperateos in a manner which is detrimental to our
hea1th, safety I~d welfare. Tnis bUSiness 1$ 'nco~patible with a
residential c~n1ty. The disturbances caused by La Cumbre and its
patrons have included: Violent betjavior, street brawls, drunker. and
diSOrderly conduct. excessive noise, public urination and wo.iting. broken
glass and liter in our nei9hbof~Ood sidewalKS. We believe the sitUation
is no longer tolerable~ and we recommend to the City of Palo Alto that La
CUMbre's condit1onal use penait be revoked.· We hawe 140 sig"atures.
Jacque Hunt, 43S Ventura A~e~ue. '7: 1 have lived It this address for 12
years. When I ma~ed there. my children were in the fourth gra~e, and now
they are in college. The noise has always been i problem with
Compadre's. We have other problems in our neighborhood, like the gas
station n~ that is going to be(o~ a Jiffy lube. It lOOKS like a garblge
dump. I have called people to take care of tnat, and hopefully, they
will. Otherwise~ you will probably hear that coming up pretty soon. But
the element that hangs out at La Cumbre now within the last year has ~de
such a difference. 1 ha~e jar~ of urine in the dr1ve~aJ. Peop1e are
jumping o~er the f~nces. Somebody tripped our power switches outside. I
work the graveyard shift. so I probably see more at night when 1 leave for
werle Orle night there-wc:s a car in front of me at the stop sign. They
had come out of La tumbre. I turned out of my driveway. which is a1.05\
across the street. We turned onto El Ca.ino~ and these g~ys who had come
out of La Cumbre started harassing two young girls in a car on El Camino.
They were drunk. They got behind the girls. The girls moved away from
them, "nO they got behind them .ga;n, yelling at th ... 1 started beeping
ay horn to try and stop it. Final1Y9 t~ey turned off on University
Avenue.
Besides the gross things we'have to deal with, and all the no1se~ ] also
help .anage an apart~nt complex, ;nd it is g~tting harder and harder to
rent the apartMents because the neighborhood is going down so fast. ] w.as
tal~inq with someone in tn.1building .bout the gas station. He said that
the area is getting better and better all the time. ] said to him, you
don't live here or you would not SiY it is getting better. It is getting
worse and worse. In the past year. it has just gotten horrible. I think
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I see it i lot more at n'ght because of the time I leave at night. J hear
th.at there are prostitutes f'langing OlJt there. I dOrl't "now if 1 would
know on~ whe~ I saw one~ but I hear that th~y are tn!re.
A lQt of things I ~m forgetti~g bscause I am neryou~! but noise from La
Cumbre tHiS been a problem ,,11 iI,long. I have raised tw{) kids there by
~$elf. and I have worke~ a 10t of jobs. I have called the police. I f~el
that the statis~ic$ you ire getting aye only the talls m~de to the 911
nwnber. When I call, [ cill the non-emergency nu~er, and r am encouraged
to call the nonaemergency n~T. So [ am s~re tnat figure could be
doubled or tripled. I would just lo,,,e to see all thE" licenses revoked of
the places there that interfere with people who work every d~. Now my
kids are grown. [work full time, and] gD to school full time. When I
want to sTeep, 1 ~ant to sleep. 1 need to sleep. This is a residential
arej, and then you have the cornet, where they art keeping all the
residents who are trying to make a living and be respectable citizens from
bei~ able tQ get a night's sleep9 which affects their work, which afrects
their lives. I wo~ld like to see the whole ar&a cleaned up. The
restaurar.ts that wer~ t~ere before they became baT5 ~re great. They were
quiet. Tfii"j-closed fairly early. Wheil someone f1naily reaches ttle point
where they call the police, they are at the~r wit's end. The) have
already listened to it for montns. ha~e dealt wlt~ it, have t~rned up the
radio, etc.~ before they call the polfce.
Hugo Cnabgnjer. 391Q yentM~A Court. Palo Alto: [have lived in Palo Alto
for the la$t 12 years. All I can do is to corroborate what everyone has
$aid about garbage, riots. and noise, especially at night. at 2 and
1 o'clock in the DOrni~g. We just cannot sleep. There are loud radios,
loud talkIng, and r lrO"ld 1 !ke the license ef la Cumb •• to be revoked.
Fred Lakin. SlZ Mjlitarv Way. palo Alta. CA: [would like to present one
observation abo~t the degree of cooperation that the La Cumbre manage.ent
showed ~fter the September 12th meeting. At that meEting. r thought the
one concrete outcome was that Harry, the owner, said, t~e All American
parting lot is a problea. We agree. We know t~at aur pitrons are
c ... ting broke. glass and garbage. I will have ~ people clean it up.
Thfs is sometning we do at our other establis~nt, and we can do this
here t~o, even though it is not o~r parking lot. If you are root familiar
with this, i lot of the patrons park in the All American parking lot, and
then go there afterwards and party and lea~E stuff a11 Dyer. A month
later. I talked to t"e clerk at ttle All Amer~c:an marke-t, and Hey
laughed. They said, no way was 1t ever done at all. This is such a s~ll
thing. 5..,. of the tilings we are talking about, admittedly. could take
so.e time to accomplish~ but si~ly having yo~r busboys go across the
street a"d p;ck "P the garbage left by your patrens should be •• sy. I
offer this as f~rtner evidence of a lack of cooperation.
Sue Brown. 4039 Manzao. palo AltO· CA: I ~ sure everyone is prett} much
aWire that there was an incident outside La tumbre which required police
resources fro. Pilo Alto, Stanford, Mountair. View, Los Altos and t~e
Cal1fornia Hig~ay Patrol. Five people were hospitalized. I j~st don't
think it is appropriate for tnat sort of thing to go on in o~r
neighborhood. I also have. quote here from a Palo Alto Weekly orticl.
w~fch says that obviously, there are some problems. Mr. Tenenbaum i5
q~oted is saying, ~Hy cli~nts want to do ~verything they can s~ that
residents can ha"'e peace and Quiett but there are tradeoffs. too, 1 iv1ng
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Irish Co~l, 3883 [1 Centro Street, Palo Alto: ~at J ~anted to SlY is to
eanf1rm things. I used to live on Vfntura~ 50 [ have lived an both sides
of [1 Caaino. Whit I ~ou1d like to say. as a block captain, is that
uRoffte;a1ly, peo~le call me to tell me abo~t things that h~ppen. In the
last yelr~ 1 received a lot of calls and comments from people in Sarron
Park. Association. particularly from women who fe-el a little tmcomfortable
about the elements .lor.q E1 Camino ~eal in this area. I have ~ad friends
come to visit ae at 9 o'clock in the evening, when things are sort of
crlnki~g up and getting ready, have been harassed as they tUfn i~. I ~ave
hid thit happen to me) also. We live on £1 Centro, ~~ich, as the name
implies, is right in the middle of Barren Park. so we are well away from
El Camino Rell, yet we are being iapacted by it. My "",band n,s gone out
to ~tch. We get a lot of cars roaring through our neighborhood. I know
I am not imagining this. It starts at 1:30 i.m. to 2 a/clock in the
~rn1ng. We neyer had t~it. It was very quiet previously. but this ~as
been going on for the past year.
r ilso get Taco Bell and Jack in the Box garbage. People are obviously
parkinq tbere and throwing garbage out. Some of the stuff in the garbage
is very ~nsavQry. I find condoms, ro11ing papers. etc. I ~inted to speak
abOut tnat.
Msr lytle: Does anyone else wis~ to speak before we hear from t~e
applicant?
Tom MersDn. Patrol C3pt.10: [would like to say that the PQlice
departlent shares the concerns of tne Barron Park. Association. We .1$0,
a.$ a pollo:oe -depilrt.ae.nt, "'~~e txperier.ces. __ itt\ direct impact frM La
C~re, as well. ~. would like to tell you. 1;ltl. bit about that this
afternoon. I will do that, as well as Sqt. Tom Oestafano, who is present
today.
I would like to preface my r~rk5 by telling you, for the record. that
the level of service that La CUBbre requires goes beyond a si~le police
response~ By that, ] mean that when police respon~l tnere is certainl) a
tiM t.hat .:;S cOGI%'Iitted to responding to the establishment. But that time
might actually be enlarged if you taxe into consideration the fact that a
consider.ble number of the reports that we have to make require
documentation. So tnet doclJltf:ntation, that police fol1o,,'up that occurs
and ~ventu.l1y t~e court appearance that also might occur, can result iT.
an tnordi~ate n~~ber af hours. In fact. the disproportianality t~at La
Cumbre has required of the police department over the last year is
significant. We would li~e the reccrG to show that.
In additiQn tD all of that. I would like to say that the establishment
also presents, for the police department, a concern over the dangerousness
of t~e calls that we have to respor.d to. A number of the calls have
violence associated .,tn them. The record should also reflect that the
estiblis~nt poses I danger to our persQnnel who have to respond.
Generally, I would like to say that the types of ca"s that the police
respond to are categorized into these bro~d areas: Oisruptlve CrowdSi
public intoxication; urinating in publlc; fighting and assaultive
behavior; noise; and puking problems. There is i unique traffic problem,
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as well. t~it tM! establishment poses. That is that large numbers of
peop'~pon mak1ng egress from the building, are i~diate'y confronted
with E1 Camino, and they cross rig~t there~ w1thnut due regard to the
traffic: situ.~tjoJ'1,> That is iI significant safety hu~rd.
In addition, there is the matter that you have heard about witn the trash
in t~e neighborhood. T~ere is also i significant amount of narcotics use
taking place, at leist outside of the premises in the parking areas in the
i~diate surrounding environment. So t~at is a generalization of the
nature of the ~robleDs.
As you ~a.e heard from t~e Barron Par~ Association, there bave been 82
police Situations frOOl August, 1992 to August, 1993 that have requi red our
response. It probably is safe to say that at least double that number
exist in the 51Jrrounding environment. We have onTy taken ;;-,to iecour,t
those calls for se~ice occurring at the establishment itself.
1 ha~~ brought .ith me some i~ternal documents that a~e p~epared ~n I
daily basis for ~oljce management by the superv~sors who work each of the
s~1fts. TheSE are brlefing documents for police manage~nt to have an
understanding of what transpired on a shift preceding our normal work day,
since we CORe to wGrk from 6 a.~. to 5 p.m. Of co~rse, the offi~ers are
out there all n'ght~ dealing with sit~at;ons~ so they leave us ~s.
These are strictly internal documents. [have brought in a few of these~
Which I would like to read to you verbatim, so that you get a little feel
for some of th~ things that are taking ploce. Please keep \0 .ind that
tnese can, in no wa), really translate what the officers are exper1encing
when they respond to these situations. Tom may be able to talk a little
""'re to that.
let me go over a few of these. I get these fairly routinely. Here is one
frOM Jaly 31 J 1992, I sergeant's report. ·On~e again, we responded to a
.ajor problea at la Cwabre. T~e first officer on the scene reported ove~
\00 peop1e in the northbound 1lne$ of [1 t~~~o, and a~other ~O OT so
heading for the All ~rican Market. Everybody responded, plus Stanford
police, Los Altos and Mountain Vlow. Ulti.ately, three people were
arrested for battery.
This ~~e is from A~9ust 16, 1992. A freeway shooting had occurr!d on
Highwa$ 101. This dDcuments that the shooting was in r~taliation for I
previous incident on the 30th of July at La Cumbre bar at 39DI [1 Camino.
This one is from October 11, 1992. la Cumbre was a big mess for patrol
tGn1ght, just like eye~1 other night. ~hen we first responded to I noise
co.plaint, as usual, then approxiaately one ho~r later the weekend fights
started. After the fire department cleaned everyone up, one went to jail
for battery and creating I disturbance , and a second went to jail for
drunk In public and creating a disturbance.
!iec""ber IS, 1991: Drunk in public. Frionds at L. Cumbr. attempted to get
i stDlen ve~icle. fn essence, what occurred was that t~ey wanted to take
• tab h.-e, but the woman decided that she had not finished her partyio9,
so she grabbed the keys to the cab and tried to take off in it. Officers
who were already there with. drunk in public Whom they had arrested
observed the dist~rbance, and took the female into custody.
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Septemb~r 11. 1993: Assault with i deadly weapon at La Cumbre~ with Dne
down in the center island and about laO people milling about in the
street. Los Altos, Mounhir. \'lew and the Cilifornia Highway Patrol helped
~s get the crowd Yndcr control. Victim II ~as taken to Stanfo~d, where
~i<tims 2. 3, 4 and S show~d up. A" ~ere treated for cuts and stab
wounds.
This goes on and on. I will c(mc.luda with one final !>ne-, which is rather
9raph~c. Between 1:15 l.m and l!~O i.m .• 1 ~aw three people exit the bar
tnat were so intoxicated' that people had to 1 iteral1y Cill~ry them to
v~~icles. One woman was so drunk that her male (~mpan1on let her wallow
1n her own vomit before putting her in a car and driving off. Another
individual ~as propped up as he walked across E1 Camino to a car. The
.are sober party of the tw~ put his drunk friend in the car and returned
to t~e bar. The third person, a girl, Wi3 so out of it that two people
h~d to carr~ nero I am concerned that the bartender is serving to folks
who ire too intoxicated.
That is just a real brief c~ilat1on of some internal documents that we
~ave tnat ind,cate the problems ~ little bit from our perspecti~e. I also
would like to say that tnere has been due notice to La Cumbre management
tnat goes back to July, 1992 when I wrote a letter to Mr. Sanchez, who .as
the ~nager, and perhaps still Is. ! would like to reid tha! into t~e
record. -Dear Mr. Sanchez: 1 am writing to formally notify you of
actfvities or.curr1ng at the bu~iness you manage wh1c~ pose a health and
safety ~azard to the patrons, the community and my police officers. Since
t~e opening af La tumbre, the necessity for pal ice action on i business
property nas increased to disturbing aed unacceptable levels. The
frequency of fightfng, drunkenness, noise compla~nts. disorderly crowds
and other crimes require police response on I regular basis. This is to
say nothing of the additional poli(t response required to the ~eighborhood
area for situations stemmi~g directly from la Cumbre.
-It i5 incumbent upon the mana9ement of La tumbre to take whatever lawful
steps are necessary to oper~te an orderly estabtis~nt.· It 9~s on.
N'lW I WDuld 1 i ke Toa to describe some of tbe things he sees. Tom works on
t~e .idnignt shtft, and he deals with t~is on a nightly basis.
1$1. Destefano. Sergea.nt: I ·.n~rk midnight tOo 7 'n the morrdns. 1 o.1fI onE
cf three supervlsori that work those hours~ I have been ~;nd of a liaison
betwee~ my captain and the management at la Cumbre. r rece;~e the calls
from the citizens. and ha~e tried to deploy my officers in a satisf~ctory
way to deal with the problems that are occurri~g there. We ~lve reacted
to the '-ills and hav.:! made TIU!'!Ierous arrESts there. We haVE! been proac.tive
fn that I ha~e met with the management at La Cumbre and have expressed our
concerns about fights a~d hew to deal with them. [have kept notes on the
meetings tl1at occurred on Jul, 3. 9. 11. and 12. 1991. wnen 1 shifted from
the ,wing "ift to the night shift. which .as in July of 1992.
1 Qff~red some SU99~stians Gf r_'sing the price of alconol in an effort to
curb SOle Qf t~e intoxication problems of the patrons leaving La Cusbre;
raise tne cover cha~e to see if ~~ (an lessen the crowd tbat gathers
insfde La Cumbre; to stop ser~ing at an earlier ho~r to let people dance
cff the ilcohol, post signs to keep the noise dQwn so that citizens do not
have to hear them as they exit; inc~else security it the All American lot,
at their on·site tot, the problem being that the on·site lot at li Cumbre
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will only hold approx~mately SO cars. The spillover goes across tne
roadway. which generates calls for service fro~ the BUEna Vista Trailer
Part at '3980 El CL~ino Real, from proble.s at the All Amorican lot, and
lJP and down [1 Camino, up and' down ventura. Taco Bell and ~lack in the Box.
[ ~yself h.,. been in,ol,ed In breaking up • fight on the lot at La Cumbr.
in July of 1992. r had to resort to the "se of my baton. The baton
fltled to Ictomplish our goal of taking tne suspect into CYstody. We had
to use a pol;ee canine. He wa.'i injured by the police canine. Aga1n~ J
~ad I call for ~t~al aid in July of 1992. I rarely (all fGr mutual lid.
In ev~ry instance, it ~as been at ta C~re.
tapti;n Merson: Can ynu describe mutual aid?
~Destefano: Usual1Yt the men on staffing after midnight will ha¥e
seven officers on duty. That is minimum. We could not handle it with the
amount of officers we had on. [had to c.'l for help from any agency that
nad available officers. In that instance, Los Altos and Stanford assisted
us in July to defe~d ourselves from 40 people wh~ _ere advancing on us
after ~ ~ad aiready arrested the one that the canine tO~K into custody.
We arrested th~ee others that were challenging us to I fight and were
c081ng it us and were willing tQ fight us~ We were in full unifo~. ]
base a lot of t~at on intoxication. They were uncontrollable. They were
already fighting and beating up the security of La Cumbre. We ha,e taken
measures. In meeting with Richard Sanchez. the ~nager of La tumbre, ~e
is very cordial. He agrees to Meet wit~ me. We baye met -any tfmes. We
do see so.e Dr~ress, but after a few weeks. it tapers ~ff down to
nothing. We" again ~et, and if there is a fight. we do see progress, b9t
from July, 1952 to today, it ag.ln so'e. down.ard. ThEY are still h.,lng
fights. Within the last few weeks, we have .. de arrests for fights. We
have been called out there fDr fights. As alreadY Mentioned. this is j~st
what is dOCUlented. We do try to do some preventative methods. You will
see our cars. Our cars are allover out there. Hopefully, just o~r
presence is telling people, don't fight~ We don't want fights. They
still break out~ We get called away to other calls for servi(! in town.
and still the fights occur, even though we park a car at the All American
lot and ~ park it Ventura and El Camino and the laundnomat lot~ We are
now working up and down Ventura, up and down £1 Camino, and it is taking
away the available service from otne~ porticns of town. But we have to do
this for preventative meaSures. Our officers are concerned. We are tirEd
of seeing people beaten up. So they make a special effort to get down
t~ere~ It is taking up a lot of our time.
[ think it has b~en pretty well ~overed by eyeryona. The fights
continue. Driving under the influence arrests by o~rsel~es, by Stanford.
aM by los Altos. los j!,1tos meets with us, and lite are told tn3t their
arrests are up. Part of ttle fOT1:l that we fi' lout for driving un.der t~e
influence, after their ~iranda rights~ Questions are asked abDut where
they were coming from and where were tney going. They mention that they
are coming from La Cumbre. When W! get t~eir OUI results, the results are
0.15, 0.20, and aboYe, When the legal limit is 0.08. Yet, w. do not s ••
thea drive from la Cumbre, but this is a fairly common the~ t~at ~e are
seeing in our OUI arrests that they are coming from la Cumbre.
Ms. lytle; They are reportfng to yo~ t~at the) are coming from la
Cumbre? (Yes)
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Captain ~erSQ~: Tom Mas described the situations that occurred in the
SUQmer of 199,. At tMat time, in the wake of these situations, the police
depart~nt decided to put out a crime suppress~on team periodica1ly on
random nights to target some of tne activity there. ! would just liKe to
cite for you some of the arrests that these folks mad~ on t~E property.
Keep in mind that these were officers wearing pol ice rajd jack.ets ttlat
were highly visible lIiith all their loeather gear. They were very high
profile in a deliberate effort to be high profile, be'ius~ we wanted to
discourage some of the activit) that Tom described. On Ju1y 25, 1~9l,
t~ese offi(ers that I ju~t described made eight arrests for crimes
involving possession of loaded firearms. possession of marijuana, fO!Jr
arrests fOT possession of (ocaine Ind three arrests for alcohol
violations. We also obser\led several indh'iduals urinating ~n the parking
lot.
On August 6, 1992, they made t~n arrests: two dru~k in public; tnree open
container violations; four urinating in public; and o~e assault with a
deadly weapon. On A\Jgust 26, i992~ they I;ade five arrests: One for drLink
in public; two open contai~er arrests; one for possession of narcotics
parap~ernalil; a~d one for urinating in public. So this is what officers
car. do~ arrestwise, in a ~ery visible t high profile fashion. If we went
down in an undercover capacity. I wo~ld not be surprised if we dtd much
more. So this gives you a flavor of ~at we have heen dealing with.
Ms. Vi"tle: I would] ike to callan the representative of tne pemittee at
this time.
Dona1d Tenenbaum: ~ clie~t is not ~ere, but let .e give you a little hit
of background on who the cltent is, and wh.t [ ~ow .bout L. Cumbre.
nave practiced in t~is valley for 31 years. and I know Palo Alto very
well, as well as ather areas of the county. ] have been on both sides of
the fence.
from my understanding, there is i conditional use permit that was granted
in 1973. There ire basically three issues here. one lS whet~er Dr not
there is a v101ation of the conditional use permit. I talked with Hancy
lytle last week about that. There is no specific prohibition against live
entertainment. The inter.tion of the permit when it was granted was to
allGW live entertainmen~, and that is now it has been used throughout the
1 ast 20 years.
The other two issues are the police and the neighbors. I have ta\en notes
here and have tried to analyze the two issues. ] hive narrowed it down.
The police haVE a problem, and their proble~ is two-fold. One, the number
of responses there t and tWQ, the activities there. By -there-I mean,
emanating from la C~re. not in the general area t but directly as a
result of La Cumbre, because th~re 1S disorderly operation of the
premises.
The second probl~ is the ~itizens' problem. That problem runs the whole
gamut of noise, disturbances, etc., when citizens feel they cannot enjoy
their residences. That is t~e second prob1em. Any resident has i right
to enjoyment of thetr property.
With regard to that co.ment in the newspaper, with regard to tradeoffs.
That really was not fair. A newspaper reporter called me following the
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SeptRlber meeting and asked me to discuss the matter, I d'fscussed it with
him. The disc~ssion fntlud~ the fact that what you have here is a
cOII'IIercia1 area with a bordering ne~Q'hoorhood area. If neigr.bors 1 ive. in
an irea that border~ i cammertill ar~a? they cannot expect to have the
exact same usage of th!ir property as neighbors who do not border a
cDllRerchl .a~'eiII. It 15 not to say you should root have sahty. It does
not ael~ you s~ould not have the reasonable enjoyment of your place, but
the use of your property and the disturbances you hav! at'e different since
yvl,l border il cOI':IRercfal area than H' the closest connercial are3. was two
Diles away.
Getting back to what ta Cumbre is, is I understand it, it is a eorporation
that owns t~e place. It WiS purthased about five years ago. The
corporation is owned eo perC2nt by Harry Avanessian and 20 percent by ~T.
and Mrs. Robert Pavane. "r. Pavane fs the stepfather and Mrs. Pavane fs
the nother of Richard Sanchez. Richard Sanchel is the manager of the
premises. That is how I understand it.
] got called into this in the summer of 1992. Richard Sanc~ez received a
letter from Captain Tom Merson, and he brought it into me, and that was my
first contact. r contacted Captain Merson, and we had a meeting at his
office. Richard Sancr.ez and J attended it, and taptain Herson told us
about tbe probleE. His primary notification to Sanchez was t~ilt trlerr:
were a fe~ polfce problems. In addition to that, he mentioned that tner!
were neighborhood complaints. I asked him what were those ca.plafnts. He
said that he felt toe main c.-plaint was noi.e. I asked ~at ot"er
specific complaints were there. He said. ot~er than the d;sturba~ces that
appea~ed in the police reports, he satd he did not know. r said, if you
can tell .e what those speciffc coeplaints are, we c.n address those
~oapli1nts. That was more or less left there. Rlchard also told him, in
response tc what he said needed to be done, what he would do with regard
tD guards, cross walks, thi"9S 1fke that. I followed that meeting with a
letter to Captain Merson. telling hl~ that these are the things the
Heensee pr!Jposes to dOt following the Ai.:qust, 1992 meeting. 1 said, if
these things are not done. please let us know ri9ht away. La Cu.bre
realizes it is in a commercial area. It reilfzes it bas bord~ring
neighbors. It has a future investMent there and does not want to
jeopardize fts jn~estment. It ~ants to be operating responsible prem~ses
and having the r.eighbors reasonably enjoy thelT property. I said, If you
ha_a any complaints, l~t 8e know about it.
We did not hear anything until December. 30 that was a period of four or
ffYe months later. Naturally. we ••• uoed that if we dfd not hear anything
~ntil Deceaber, there were no big issues other t~in nonnal ones t~at
arise. In December, another letter was written about monitDring the
situat10n. We ~rote back to t~em about what we wer~ doing. and said,
look, if there are any further ccmplaints, let us know. The next ti~
so.et~ing ~ame up was in the sum.e~ of t~15 year ~hen ] had the second
.eeting with Captain Merson. We prett1 much indicated what Sgt. Oestefan~
said, which ii that tnlngs got better for awhile after the meeting, and
then~ iccording to the records, t~ey appeared to deteriorate aga\n~ but
possibly not to the pOint where it was befere. ~aybe it was, maybe it
wasr./t.
At any rlte~ we had a meeting agafT., and it that time, he indicated t~at
the hORleDWners were getting invo1Y"ed in this thing and that there &;ght be
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a homeowners meeting. I sa;~ lf there is, we ~ould definitel~ want to
attend, be'luse we would 1ik.e to hear from them s.pecifically ... hat the
(osplaints were. We had notice of the homeowners meeting in September, ~n
i SundiY afternoon. I att~nded, a~d Harry Avanessitn attended. By the
way. be is not pre~ent today betiuSe he had so~thing he could not avoid
attoending. I told Richard Sanchez to have his mother and father here-, as
part owners, and t~ have them here by 2:45 p.~. It lS nOW 4:20. and as
fir as I know, they ~ave not showed up.
With regard to the n~me~ers meeting, many of you were there.
recognize Quite a few ~f you. Your concerns were vocally expressed, the
same as today. You know ~hlt Harry said he would do. A week after that,
I asked Harry what .as happening on this. He said that Richard had
arranged a meeting with John Benza. A week 'ater~ I asked him if he had
g~~e to that .eeting. This is in r~sponse to Mr~ Beckett's st!t~nt
earlier who said that nothing at ~ll was done. That surpr1s~d me, because
it made me believe ~ client ~as lying to me, but 1 find that 1£ not
true~ What na~pened was that there was a mPeting. from what Richard
tells Me, he_s~nt about an hour-and-a-nalf with Mr. Ben,a. Th~y walked
the irea;~hei walked the parking lot; th!y walked up and down the
street. It was somewhere around 9 or 9:30, and they counted the available
parking pl~ces on Ventura, which was one of t~e most voca' problems --the
parking of patrons of La Cumbre patrons on Ventura. So tney ~anted to see now .any spaces were available at th!s time of nig~t. From what Richard
tells IDe. there were sosteWhere between six and eight spaces aVailable at
that time of night. So there can~ot be that ~ny people parking there.
Howe~er, even if there is one perso~ parking there, and that o~e person is
a patro~ of la Cuabre, ind it distur~s you and the reasonable use of yo~r
re$1denc~, it should not happen.
Th~ result of the meeting, according to R1c~ard Sanchez, was that ~e would
do certafn things with regard to secyrity_ He proposed certain changes
with regard to the op~ration of the premises. There were several
a~ternat1ves that eouid be taken with rega~ tG parking. Number One would
be security from La Cu.bre saying that noDody who appeared to be a patron
of La (umbre could park on ~entura. Another one would be that tney could
go for t~e private permit with the city. Another one would be to put in i
ba~ricade in the evening and only allow the residents to go through. It
appeared from what Richard said, of these alternatives, the most
reisonable one was to ~ave additional security of La Cumbre that would
walk up ind down there and see to any disturbances.
After this conversation with Richard saying that he had met with John
Benza, I had a furt~er conversation with Harry Avanessfan befoN! I met
with you on HondlY of last week. He told me that with regard to security,
what they had done was that tney had firEd the old security; they had
three outSide security; one patrols the area of t~e parking lot, one
patrol s the area on El Ca&ir,o, and one p.atre1s the area down Ventura.
T~ey put thes in bright colored jackets with the word ~SecurityW on them
so that tney are identifiable. They inhrcl>R:lunicatf! w"ith waHie·talkie$,
and their function is to see that there are no disturbances in the lot, on
Ventura 0"1" out fronL
In addition til that, Mr~ Avanessian told lie he had ct.anged the operatlon.
of the place sinc~ September. The client!le, as is known to all of you
people, is Hispanic, The music is Hispanic, ] would iSS~ that almost
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III of the patrons are Spanish speaking. Announcements have been made in
Spanish with regard to e~iting t~e placp. and the ~anner in which they
s~ould ha~e regard for th~ neighbors. flyers are posted all ~ver tn!
plac2. with a large stack of them on the table. stating in Spanish what
t~ey shou1d and should not do with regard to the neighbors.
W1t~ rtgard to the c~ange in operation, it still remains Hispanic
clientele. It is still primarily Spanish music. byt as he tells me, the
type of IRIJsic ~ii.S changed so that it attracts !i different element. It
would be the eQufyalent, In Anglo musit, of a difference between co~ntry
West~rn and lQunge t~pe music.
Alcng ~ith this, hg has doubled tne cover charge. In $0 doing, 'n the
last four or fi~e veeks~ his volume has gone d~ well over SO percent.
asked to have co~ie$ of your crime stati~tics gfve~ to me. They were
delivered to me two days ago.
Let the record show that Ric~ard Sanchez is now present.
With reaard to the calls for serYice~ over a l3-month period of time,
there were 82 calls. 1 analyzed these calls. The captain nas told me he
has talked to beat officers wnen there is a problew ~5 to whether or not
the disturbance emanated from La CUBbre. I haye looked at S~ of tnem,
and tnere is no question in .y mind that S~ of them do not emanat~ from
la Cumbre. I see yery few that are within La tumbre. They all appear to
be outSide. Thlt is not to say that tne respo~sibl11ty of the lice~see
ends at ~ts door. Obviously it goes beyond his door. let the record
reflect that these pr~ises have been in operation for five years, and the
Departoent ~f Alcoholic Beverage Cootrol, to ~ knowledge, has taken 00
disciplinary action against the pre.ises during t,at period of ti.e. I
.. y be wrong, but ! do ~"OO that in this period of time that we .re
talking about frOB the summer of 1992 to tne present, there has never, to
II.Y knowledglP.t bee!1 any arrests for iny v101 ations of the ___ a<:t,
either within the place or tne surrounding5~ such as the sale of alcoholic
beverages to an obviously 1ntoxic:ahd person~ Dr t.he sale of alcoholic
beverag~s to a minor, or allowing a minor to CDnsWRe alcoholic beverages t
ar allowing the premises to opErate after hours. If there have been
violations, Captain Merson can ~orrect me.
Back to tne reports. When r got the reports frO'-! Officer Veflable, I
noticed th.t the reports only went up to tne middle of August, 1992. So I
asked them to please send me the reports for the calls fer disturbances
since that date, beciuse I want tQ su whether there 1 s a decnilSe ir, the
ealls since the time of the September Deeting to see whether or not the
change in operations, the beefed up security, the things that Harry said
he was going to do irtd did do t.ave had any impact. He was kind enougn to
send me those other dOcUAents, and wnen he did. I analyzed them. 1 saw
t~at in six weeks, from .id-August t~ several d,ys ago in October, there
were SE"ven calls. Se'den calls in six week.s is Guite a s"lgnificantly
reduced ratio of 82 calls in 13 morotos. So I do believe t"at there has
been I change. ObYiously it is not ill change that has brought ~uch
happiness with the resident •.
J would consider the n.ture of th~ area a~d the investment t~at the own~r
has and the fact tnat he realizes that he has a reasonable right to run
his business but that he has an obligation to the c~nity, and the
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c~n1ty ~as i right t~ a reasonable enjoyment of its us~ of its
prope.r..ty-, and that this is ii. curilble problem. I k.new that s0<1'1e people
here do not believe it is a curable croblem, but I do believe it-is. and
it can be cured in sevenl way~ .. w"iUl the cor.tinued cooperation of
~ini9ement, with an increase in security, and with a plan tnat is in tne
throes ~f development. It wt)l be submitted~ and lastly, with any
reasonable conditions that are imposed by the use permit.
Knowing tne conc~r~s of the people, a~ knowing the number of times
Richard has .. t with the pollee, and the two tl .. , that I have met with
hi., and the aeetfng r had with Harry, and we attended th~ meeting that
the hOlleO'llners had. and the meeting r had with you last ~eek., when the
police wer. present, I do not think that anything ,hoyld be added. Mr.
Sanchez is here to answer any questions you mi~ht have.
Ns, Lytle; 1 have no questions. I will cio$e the public hearing. and
tnank everYD~e for coming. Th~ deciSion will bE out withi~ ten days.
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Ci%f palo Alto
Dtwrtmenf afPww Ii! ''; arui
Commllnirj tm.froml;nu
Use Permit No. 73-UP-22. granted on July 24, 1973 for the on-site sale and
consumptl~n of alcoholic beverages and ~ssociited entertainment at 3901 £1
Camino Rea't lone District (S, Palo Alto, California.
PUrsuant to secti~n 18.90.080 of t~e Palo Alt~ Municipal Code, tne Zoning
Administrator set .. public hearing for the purpose of determin;~.g whether
the conditions of the above subject ccndit;orlal use permit ire being
complied with, including whether t~e use being conducted pursuant to the
use permit is being c.ondl!cted in a il'lanner detrimenta1 to the pub' it
health, safety and 'lIIelfare. The lonlng Administrator set tfie publ ic
hearing after receiving complajnts that t~e use was being conduct~d in a
manner detrimental to the p~blic Mea1t~. safety a~d welfare,
The public hearing "as duly noticed and was held before the Zoning
Administrator on October 21, 1993. Seventeen persons presented testimony
at the hearing, including Don Tennenbaum, attorney for the business
oliTl:ers.
In consideration of the evide"ce presented at the public hearing on the
matter, and the reqtl1rements of Title 18 (Zoning} and, in particular,
section 18.90.080 of the Palo Alto Municipal Code. the ~ndersignedt Zonfng
Adoinistrator for the City of Palo Alto, does hereby find that the us. at
3901 [1 Camino Real is not being conducted in accordant! WltM Conditional
Use Pe~1t 73-UP-22, and is be1ng conducted in a manner detrimental to the
public. hea1th~ safety a.nd 'WelfaTE, and does hereby revoke said c:onditjonal
use penait. based upon the following findings:
FINDINGS
1. The exist~ng use at its current 1ocation is detrimental and
injurious to prope-rty and improv!!'Ilents in the 'w'ieinity, and ;s
detri:llental t~ the publ it heaJtM, saf-:-t.YI and welfarE, is
e~idenced by the Barr~n Par~ and Ventura ntig~borhocd
rESidents \litho testified at a publ i~ hearing that La Cu:nbre a!id
its patrons create high levels of ~ojse, both from within th~
building ar.d on adjacent properties, excessive litter and
humin waste tnr~u'9hout the area, and parking and traffic
problems associated with the latk of adequate on-site par~ng.
Neighbors who bave been inyolv~d in the Po-lice Oepartment
Kride along K program and who have reviewed the public Police
Department records testified that they ire feuful of criminal
and riotous acti",ities, ;n~luding weapon and drug
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rel;;ted crimes assoc.iate:i with the use. This fear and reduced
feeling of neighborhood security is exacerbated by the lack of c.lub
managf!ment response to tile neighborhood concerns. The neighborhood
testimony was corrgborated by Police Department records and
testimony from Officers who have responded to incidents at the
subject property. ThE: Palo Alto Police Department testified that la
Cumbre requires a dispro;.ortionate amount of Police Oepartment
resources, which is f!~,den~~d by the 82 calls-for-service occurring
at tnt! nightcl~b bttween August, 1992 and August, 1993, the highest
total dur~n9 that period. Poi ic~ al so estlmate t~ere is probably at
le~st an equal number of peripheral ca11s-for-service attributed to
the establishment as well. Not onl)' are largE! amounts of P<lTice
Oepartmer.t resources being consumed, but the ~tolent nature of the
calls poses a da"ge~ to responding personnel, adjacent residents,
passersby, and La Cumbre patrans.
2. The existing use is net located nor conducted in a manner 1n accord
with the Palo Alto Comprehensive Plan a~d the purposes of Title 18
of the Pa10 Alto Municipal Code, in tnat criminal activity including
rioting, drug and weapon posses:sion, public drunkenness and pers<lnal
assaults, as we1l as loud nOise. litter, lack of adequate parKing
facilities. late hours of operation, and the lir92 number and
vlol!nt nature of call-for-service to tne Police Department
associated with La Cumbre are root compatible with adjacent
residential ilnd corrmercial land uses. Additioflally, the degradat1o!'l
of the adja.cent neighborhoods caused by this b:.zsfnf!ss is in direct
conflict with the intent of Program 4 of the Palo Alto Housing
flement which states: -Use the Zoning Ordinance, otner codes, and
specific plans to maintain high-quality neighborhoods.-
3. Th!-existing use has not been ilnd is not being conducted in
compliance with the conditions set forth in Use Permit 73-UP~22 in
that the establ ishment provides 1 i\le music in viol ation of cor.d1tion
number one which specifically allows recorded music only.
N Ll..tL,~ AANC~ MADOOX\ VTl t
Chief Planning Official/
Zoning Administrator
November 4, 1993
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This de(ision will became final and the current use of the property shall
cea~e .if no appeal from this. decision is filed by any person~ firm or
{;orporatiC'n .ilffected by the decision on or by November 15. 1'993. The
decis10n may be appea1ed to the PhnrliJ'lg Corrmission by filing an appeal
appljcatio~ ~ith the Planning Department and City Clerk on or bef~re t~e
above-mentioned dat~.
cc ~ Haro(Jtune Auanessial'l, 390] El Camfno Rea1, Palo Alto, CA 94,'306
Richard S.nchez, 3901 El Camino Re.l, P.lo Alto, (A 94306
Donald A. Tennenbaum, 831 S. Winchester BCHllevard, San Jose, CA
95128
Sue Case, Senior Ass;sta~t City Attorney
Bill Mayfield, Senior Assistant City Atto~ney
Ly~ne Johnson, Assistant Pollce Chief
Capt. Tom Merson, Police Depart~nt
Ma~k Venable, Police Oepartment
Lt. SUt Hace, Watch Commander
Rich Cabrera, Ordinance Compliance Inspector
Joseph M. Colonna, Planner
Theod.re P. C.ld.n, 3Z3 Millwood Dri,e, Millr.e, CA 94030
Will Beckett, President, Barron Park AssOCiation
John Benza. Community Bus;n~ss Relation Committee
Denny Petrosian, Ventura Neighborhood AssOCiation, 443 Ventura
Avenue, '2, Palo Alto, CA 94305
John Joynt, 3589 laguna Avenue, Palo Alto, CA 94036
Hugo Ch.banelr, 3930 Ventura Court, P.lo Alto, CA 94306
Fred lakin, 512 Miiitary Way, Palo Alt., CA 94306
Sue Brown, 4039 Manzana lane, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Bill Hamburgen, 4039 Hanzana Lane, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Maria Gll Trade, 340 \ientura AVenU!i 17, Palo Alto. (A 94306
Sheryl lewis, 340 Ventura Avenue, 117, P.lo Alto, CA 94306
Moira Penny, 340 Ventura Avenu!, '3, Palo Alto, CA 94306
DavId C~alton, 3875 El Centro, P.lo Alto, CA 94306
Jacque Hunt, 438 Ventura Avenue, '7. Palo Altc, CA 94306
lrish Cor1, 3883 El Centro Street, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Constance Littlefield, 4100 Campana Dr;~e, Pale Alto, CA 94306
Don Earskine, Z68 Ventura Avenue, Pale Alto, CA 94306
Ken; !-ierl ing, 993 los Robles. Way. Palo Alto, c." 94306
Ed Jone., 543 Military W.y, Pal" Alto, CA 94306
Sirt Harvey, 38aS Magnolia, Palo Alto, CA 94306
Jill Depass, 734 Encina Grande, Pilo Alto, tA 94306
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CITY OF PALO ALTO
0tJic.e of the CHy Clerk
APPEAL FADM TIlE DECISION OF ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
To te fi~ In dllpl1cate within ten days ~forn date ct decision of Zo('.ing ~.dmlni$tratcr
Name 01 Appellant J.' & f, :;:;". DI>. k tv., .. j" ...
(""",>"0 @ 1.4
City
Receipt No. '1:J -,,/7
Phone I "'.n ~'f«-'f? 17 ,
Address 3"iiJ I t£L .4/.4 (~ 'i'f~DC>
Street Zip
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StreetAdd""", 3'lD I £1-~("~ t2.J. P .. 16 0'11", 0'>-<jiJt'''-
Name 01 ~Owner r~<Ahe,than oppe/1an!) Th-<o.:Ior-<-~. Do" d~ h,
Property Owner. Addross 3). 3 fI1 ,,{ ",,<oJ p r. /111 f; hr#-L-U&
Street City
!he decision or tho Zoning Admlnistrator dated ~ ...... hv 'f 19..iL
whereby tho aw"oconon of I.. '&tz Lt· Pb.. /-.~ Cu", br..... lor a
, (onglnal aw""'n!;
tIS-L ?ar>a-'"'7.1·Uf'~:Iwas· Ol-nud is hereby appealed fu<the
(variance/lISe penni!) <_ed/denIed)
reasons _ In !he IIlUIChed I ...... Con duifocal.).
Date 1I·/~·"i7 Signature ofAppolanl~ ~ .:J. .. J:Y4d A ./
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PlANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL:
Dat. ______ _
CITY COUNCIL DEClSlON;
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Remaoo _lor Concl1tlons:
SlJBMI1TAL REQUIREMENTS SAnS~lEO:
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OOlfALD A. TENEI<BAUM
~-South Winche.ster Blvd.
San Jose, CA 95128
Telephone: (408) 244-4777
Attorney for Appellant
BEFORE THE FLANNIlfG COMMISSIOlf
OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO
In the M3tter of the Revocation
RECEIVED
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L'Ritz, Inc~
Dbl! La C'wnbre
3901 81 camino RBa1
Palo Alto, CA
Appellant.
NOTICE OF APPEtJ,
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1'0 TIlE PLANNING COMHISSIOlf OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO:
PLEASE TAD NOTICE that L'RITZ, INC., dOi:r..q business as
LA COM::8RE hereby appeals from the decision of the Zoning
Administrator dated Nov~er 4, 1993 revoking its
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conditional use permit No~ 73-UP-22.
said appeal is made pursuant to tne prOVisions of
Section 18.92.020 of the Palo Alto Hunicipal Code and is
basea upon the following grounds:
l. That the Zoning Administrator has proceeded
without, and in excess of, ita jurisdiction.
2. rhat the Zoninq Administrator has not proceeded in
the manner required by law.
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3. That the decision is not supported by the findings.
4~ That the findings are not supported by substantial
evidence in tl'-.B light of the whole record.
5. Th&t evidence vas improperly incluaed at the
hearing before the Zoning Administrator.
Dated this 12th day ot November, 1993
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DONALD A. TEI;ENBAUM
Attorney for Appellant
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Use h~t 73-UP-2-2 is hereby issued to BHldotl, Inc.~ to .;!l!.ow the
8&le of alcoholic b~v~rages under on-sale license from the State of
C8U,t'Clrnia at 3901 II Camino Real. Zone DiEtrict C-3-S. Paio Alto,
Ca11£ornia~ subject to the following conditions:
l~ Entertatnment eetivities or d~vices shall be l~ited to public
dancing and card playing as permitted hy the Palo Alto Police
Ch~ef, recorded music and electronic amusement devices. Other
amusement activities. if proposed~ may be p~rmitted if approved
in writing by the Palo Alto Zoning Administ:rator.-
2. Compliance w1th all applieable codes and orcinances including
Titles 9 (FubUe. Pe.ace. Morals ancl Safety) 2nd 15 {Uniform Fire
Code) of the Pal~ Alto ~i~ipal Code~ and Titles 4 (Alcoholic
Beverage Control BuEinus R.e:gula.tions) and 19 (Publie Safety)
of the Stace of California Administrative Code.
3. The sale of aleohollc beverag~s under this use permit shall be
deemed an 8gr~e~ttt 00 the part of the applicant, the owner,
their heirs, succes.ors and assigna to comply with all the
terms a~d conditions of this llse permit~
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?:'~ ~ 0: .... Gu.r..-VILLE
Zoning Administrator
City of Palo Alto
July 24~ 1973
This Dse Permir is zranted in accor~ance witb and subject to the provisions
of CbapteT 18.90 of the City of Palo Alto MUnicipal Code,
In lay case in -which thf! conditions to the granting of a use. Permit ha,\Ye not
been or are not complied ~Lh, ~he Zoning Administrator shall give notiee to
t.he pertnit.tee of intention to revoke such permit a't leut ten (10) days prior
to a bearing tr.creon. FolloYing such hearing and if good cause exists there
fore, the Zoning Administrator may revoke the Use Pe~it.
A Use Permit which has not been used ~ithln one (1) year after the date of
granting becomes void, although the Zoning Administ~8tor may, wit.hout a heaT
ing, extend the time fe: &n additional year if an appl1~atiou to this effect
is filed vith him before the expiration of the first year.
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LA CUMBRE
3901 EL CAMINO RL
AUGUST '92 TO AUGUST '93
CFS
DISTUP,BANCE! LOUD MUSIC! MAKING NOISE! Lt..RGE GROUPS
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10 SUBJECTS LURKING IN THE LOT
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD SUBJECTS IN PARKlNG LOT
LOUD GATHERJNG OF PEOPLE
LOUD MUSIC
VERBAL ARGUMENT IN FRONT OF BUSINESS
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD SUBJECTS IN THE REAR PARKING LOT
ulSTURBANCE
LOUD SHOUTING, SCREAMING AND MUSIC
lARGE GROUP OF SUBJECTS
LOUD MUSIC AND THROWING OF BEER BOTTLES OUTSIDE INTO LOT
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
LOUD MUSIC
DISTURBANCE! FiGHTSI ASSAULT/ BATTERYI CAUSING TROUBLE
oeJ28193
08114193
;)8/03/93
08101193
07l291!l3
05109193
05109/93
05103193
05/02193
03114193
03111193
03/06193
03104193
02128193
OV14193
02107193
0229
0142
0143
0148
0149
0713
0136
0147
2315
0206
0155
0114
0308
2120
2236
-0013
TWO SUBJECTS IN ALTERCATION
ALTERCATION IN FRONT OF BUSINESS
ACTIVE FIGHT
FIGHT IN PARKING LOT
BATTERY
BATTERY
DISTURBANCE
ARREST FOR ASSAULT
VERBAL DISTURBJ>.NCE BETWEEN BAND AND BOUNCER
ARREST FOR ASSAULT
UNRULY SUBJECTS
ARREST FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
SUBJECT WITH FACIAL INJURIES FROM FIGHT-NO REPORT WANTED
ARREST FOR ASSAULT
BATTERY
VERBAL DISTURBANCE
-----------------.-.
\2/13."92
11130i92
11115192
11/14192
09127192
09120192
09112192
08130192
0130
. 0134
0137
2330
0157
0201
2104
2245
ASSAULT WITH BOTTLE
SECURITY WITH DISTURBANCE SUSPECTS
SECURITY THRaV LIQUID INTO FACE OF RP
SUBJECT REFUSING TO LEAVE
VERBAL ARGUME'NT
BATTERY
POSS I BlE SA TTERY
VERBAL ARGUMENT
DISTURBANCE AND ARRESTS INVOLVING AlCOHOUDRUGS
08123193
08123193
i 08112193
07131193
07129/93
06103193
05117193
05/09/93
05/09193
04110193
03101193
02126193
02106193
01/10193
11102192
10125/92
10111192
la/10m
0153
1750
0128
2332
2150
0146
0141
0151
0150
0109
0149
0416
2047
0131
0152
2357
0047
2247
MISCELlANEOUS
07105193
06126193
05109193
05113193
04105/93
03105193
03101193
02120193
12128192
11115192
l1Kl7/92
101271S2
09115192
09107192
08/19192
08114192
08102192
0121
0250
2332
0030
0005
0143
0148
2116
0100
2045
0218
1020
1138
0110
2315
0224
1628
ARREST FOR DRUNK DRNlNG
ARREST FOR NARCCTICS
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBLIC
ARREST FOR DRUNK DRMNG
ARREST FOR NARCOTICS
-ARREST FOR NARCOTICS
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBliC
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBLIC
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBLIC
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBLIC
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBLIC
TWO r-I.ALES DRUNK AT THE BACK DOOR
DRUNK MALE CREATING A DISTURBANCE
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBliC
DRUNKS
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBLIC
ARREST FOR DRUNK IN PUBLIC
MINORS ENTERING BUSINESS
SUBJ SAYS HE WAS SHORT CHANGED
THREE SUBJECTS "WAITING ON FEMALES"
WARRANT ARREST
THEFT OF WALLET
CAR ALARM SOUNDING
PETTY THEFT
WARRANT ARREST
FLAG DOWN BY SECURITY
911 WELFARE CHECK
VANDALlSM TO VEHICLE
ALARM SOUNDEDIBUILDING SECURE
ALARM SOUNDED/BUILDING SECURE
AlLARM SOUNDED
AUTO BURGLARY
REPORT OF SUBJECTS WITH GUt,S! SAN FRANCISCO OFFICERS
ALARM SOUNDED
ALARM SOUNDED
'"
Mr. Richard Sanchez
La Cumbre
390 1 EI Ca mino Real
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Oear Mr. Sanchez:
Cit~ of J'alo jllto
1',0. lOX !~25a
'-'LO ,t,l TO. (.:. "'Jill
Portce Oepartment
4151'lZ9-2406
July 31, 1992
1-am writing to formally notify you of Cictivrties occurring at the
business you manage which pose a health and safety hazard to your
patrons, the corntnunPty and my police officers. Since the opening of -La
Cumbre, • the necessity for ponce action on the business property h"s
increased to disturbing and unacceptable levels. The frequency of
fighting, drunkeMess, noise complaints, disorderly crowds and other
crime has required police response on a regular basis. This is to say
nothing of the additional pofice response r. quired to the neigM borhood
area for situations stemmiflll directly from La Cumbfe.
It is incumbent upon the management of La Cumbre to take what·
ever lawful steps are necessary to operate an orderiy establishmet"lt. The
City Planning Department will be reviewing the conditions of yOIJr
business use permit and may be in contact with you to ensure that ail
requirements therein are met.
Please call me at your earliest convenience to arrange a time when
we can discuss these concerns further. My phone number is 329-2232.
Thank. you for your cooperation.
TM/mm
Sincerely,
--;;~ jl/Jr--.
CAPTAIN TOM MERSON
Field Services Di"ision
'Ji:? of Tall) tllto
~ c ~o~ ';:!::'O
Pl'_lo Alto Police Department
415\329-2406
August 28, 1992
Investiqator Lydia F. Engool
DepartDent of Alcoholic Beverage Control
100 Paseo de San Antonio, suite 119
San Jose, CA 95113
Dear Investigator Enqdol~
Enclosed you will find copies of several cases r~lated to La
C'ulalJre and/or the i.mmediata vicinity of the ni9"t.t club~ These
cases date back over an approximate one year period.
OUr calls for service at La Clmbre have steadily increased
since the openlnq of this establishment and continue to be a drain
on our resources. Please review the attached cases and calls for
service printouts .for any violations that may constitute this niqht
club as a -disorderly house.-
Recently 1: met with the owners of La CUlabre and their attorney
to inform them ot our department t 5 concerns. They seem to be very
coopera~ive and willing to work with our suggestions and open to
our rec01IDI!.endations tor alleviating some of the problems associated
with their establishment.
Also enelosed pleasa find a copy of the letter I sent to Hr.
Richard Sanchez, the owner of La CUmbre, in which I expressed our
concerns with his business.
Within the next week I will be again meeting with the owners
and their attorney to further discuss this situation.
Pleas'! call me if I can he of any further assistance. My
phone number is 415\329-2232.
Sincerely,
~ / o,,~,/ i/, /
.../" /'/ .,/};".,-
CAPTAIN TOM MERSON
Field services Division
c:-:-,---___ -....
I
I i •
December 14, 1992
Donald A. Tenanbaum
Attorney At La\,'
831 S. Winchester Boulevard
San Jose, california 95128
Re~ La CUmDre Restaurant
Dear Mr~ Tenanbau~:
C~tyof Palo Alto
Poiia Deparlmertl
P:::ii:2Otief I understand that you represent La CUI:1hre: Restaurant in leqal
matters. It is in that capacity that I a= requestinq your
assistance in notifying the~ of pending action by Palo Alto
Police Department regarding response to alarm calls.
Enclosed is a le.tte-r that I have tried to have delive'red to
Richard Sanchez J Manaqer~ at 3901 E1 Camino Re.al, Palo Alto, Ca.
The let~er was sent November 16, 1992, via certified mail and has
been returned as unclaimed. This letter notifies La 0~mbre of
the pending non-response to their alarm calls due to an excessive
number of false alarms over the past 12 month$. I spoke with Mr.
sanchez on November 13 f 1992, discussea the situation with him
and told him the letter would be mailed later in the week. On
oecember 1, 1992, I spoke with the secretary, Lisondra Gonzal~s~
to discuss the situation with her. She told me the letter had
not arrived and I said I would send another letter and ext~nd the
action date. As of this writing I have not receiveo notice that
tbe second letter was delivered.
It appears that pe~sonnel at La ~re are avoiding receipt of
this document. since you represent La CUmbre, I request tbat you
notify Richard Sanchez that effective December 31, 1992, La
cumbre will be placed on confirmation required status. He may
refer to the enclosed Qocument fer further info~atio~.
If you have any qu~sti~ns please feel free to con~act me at
(415) 329-2130 Thursday or Friday bet~een 1 PM and 5 PM.
sinperely,
I .~{..c..--... /). ~ ,cI.-~1--
Sue Br~nson.
Alarm Coord~nator
Enclosure
cc: ~ynne Johnson, Assistant Pclice Chief
Dueane Willia~s~ Coordinator, support Services
!l5ForetA~"enUe
PaJo.~,CA. "J..U.""11
·US 329.:.a;
415.~:sa5m
December 14, 1992
Richard Sanchez
La cumbre
3901 El camino Real
Palo Alto. California
Dear Hr. Sanchez::
Ci%f Palo Alto
PaIia~
94306
Pursuant ~_the provision of Palo Alto Municipal Code 4.39, the
Privata Intrusion Ala~ Ordinance, you are hereby placed on
confirmation ~equired atatus because your alarm system at La
cumbre has activated ar. excessive number of fal~e alarms within
the past twelve montbs~ A copy of P.A.M.C. 4.39 was sent to you
on August 21, 1992.
Palo Alto Police officers responded to false alarms at 3901
El camino Real on the following occasions:
1. January 26, 1992 ZIt 12:42 AM
2. June 7, .1992 at 9:25 AM
3. June 10, 1992 at 10:30 AM
4. June 20, 1992 at 12:22 PM
5. July 5, 1992 at ~2:4B PM
6. July 30, 1992 at 5:01 PM
7. August 2, 1992 at 4:28 PM:
8. August 14, 1992 a.t 2:24 AM
9. septe.:nber 15 1 1992 at 11:.38 AM
10. october 27, 199: at 10:20 AM
114 November 7, 1992 at 2:1S AM
Beginning Thursday, December 3l, 1992, the Palo Alto Police
Department will not respond to an Llarm call at the above
location 6 If you wish to appeal this decision~ you must respond
in writing to L~e Chief of Police within fifteen (lS) days of the
date postmarked on this letter. Please state the grounds of your
appeal ~nd/or the measures taken to eliminate the problems
275Rwei-Avmue
PaIoAllo,CA94lJl
41S329.2406
4l5..329.!55~
Paqe 2
La CUmbre
c~ntirmation Required Status
causing the false alarms~ The Chief ot police or designee ~ill
set a time and place for the hearing, should you appeal this
decision. While the appeal is pending, the police will co~tinue
to respond to alarm cails at La ~re, 3901 El Camino Real.
It you have any questions please feel free to call me at
.329-23.30 ..
:CY'},~~
/ Sue Branzor-
Alarm Coordinator
cc: Lynne Johnson, Assistant Police Chief
Oueane Williams, Coordinator. Support services
December 18, 1992
!lr ~ Richard SanChez
La CUlobra
3901 El ca.ino Reol
palo Alto, CA 94306
Dear Mr ~ Sllnche z :
Cityof PaloA,ltQ
Polia Dq;w tnrn!
Sinee our August 13, 199:2 .eeting, our depart.ent bas been
c.losely monitorinq the ca.ll~-for""service at your
•• tabliaha.nta lte have observed an alanaill9 increasft in
4i.t~b.nce., fiqht&, assaults and drunk in public arrests.
Ad4itional.ly, a rise in the nu..ber of drunk driving arre.st. o~
patrons leaving your nightclub has been noted not only by our
departltent, but by the KOl,ll1tain View and Los Altos Police
Departments •
We have received reports that on occasion, La CWlbre staft
bave re:tuse4 to telephone police when requested to-by patrons ..
and at ti.es have attempted to dissuade peraona fro. reporting
an incident when., perhaps, police contact would have been the
appropriate action.
A recent event 'Which illustrates this type of incident
occurred on Deceoo.ber 13, lUl. While inside your
est&blishaent, two patrons were hit by e thrown beer bottle.
one ot the individuals was struck in tile h .... d and required
-.dieal attaDtion. '
witnesses have reported to us tbit you retused to telephone
police when requested to do so, and then atteapt9d. to persuade
thea not to report the incid.ent. It is our understand.1nq thot
a 1I."itnasl eventually telephoned for police and parazedic..
OCC\lrre.nces such as these are vary dist'l.lrbinq and would appear
to be contrary to the spirit of cooperation expressed in our
August meeting.
, :'" .
·~,i3·f"?~~-<~; ""
Gtyof Palo Alto
PoIX>:Dq;w,,, .. u
La C\labre
Page 2 or 2
The inc:r.aee and. intensity of recer.t calls-tor-service at
La CUJlbr. need.. to be i .. ediately address.d. Nu.eroua.
r~tloJW 'Were made at our last aeetinq. We bope these
were belp flU.
.--
It you ahculd have any questions or cor..cern. regarding ~t
events or wish ti) dllicuas potential .olu~lona, I am willing to
... t with you anc1 your staff at your request. You aay contact
.. at (415) 329-2232.
SiDcez:e,?£.lY •
/ {!JAIl ~/f~ --_
captain To. Merson
Field Services Division
TIllar
cc:-Donald A. Tenanbaum
Attorney at Law
831 South Winchester Boulevar~
San Jose, CA 95128
Lynne "_lohnson, .Assistant Police Chief
DEPARTMENT OF AlCOHOUC BEVERAGE CONTROL
san Jose District Office
100 Paseo de San Antonio,
San 30s., CA 95113
(408l 277-1200
L I lUorZ., INC.
1. A Fox
3901 11 Caaino Real
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Dear,'L!.c:en.seats) :
Suite 119
t
octotle.r 3 .. 1992
Reference: 47-234329
rt baa coae to the Departa~nt'l attention that patrons leavin9
your pre.ises at O~ about clos1nq time, are very intoxicated and.
tend to loiter, f19ht and cauae d1sturbanCRs to the surroundlnq
nei;hborhood. Said patronE are also c~eat1nq a preble. for tb~
Palo Alto Police Depart_ent, in that excessive .an hours and
personnel are being used to respond to tbe f1gbtlnq, intoxicated
patrons. noise co.plaints, disorderly crowds, and other
iliscellaneous violations steam1nq direetly fro. your pI"eJli&e5.
Businea. and Professions .Cod~ Section 24200 (e, and penal Code
Section 373(4) prohibits this t~~e of activity.
Hav1nq now been advised of the above problems and baving received
cop1e. of the above referred to sections, be adv1se~ that
continuance of the above activ1ty could result in a suspension or
revocation of your alcobQlic ~everaqe ~lcen6e.
You as licensees are under a cdDtinuinq duty to properly
supervise your pre.is., and prevent such occurrences.
cons1derinq all the facts in this matter we do not intend in this
instance to file an accusatlon~ You are cautioned, however, that
a subsequent v1oiatioD of this nature may .ubject your license to
disciplinary proceedinos, leading to suspension of your license
privU"q ••.
~15 lattar should be considered an official warDin~ ,notice r a
copy of whi~ will be maintained in your permanent file.
· . ' ..
L'RITZ, INC.
OctOber 13. 1992
Pall. 2
w. ask that you acknowledge receipt of this letter and iniora the
dap&rtaent, in writing. of the .teps you have taken to prevent a
reeurrence of the above violation.
'"'' LOll file Headquarter.; Licensinq
Chief of polle~
very truly yours,
Ph111P C. Geffert
District Administrator
DEPAATMENT OF AlCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL
San JOI. District Off lee fi ","r c;-/" . .
100 Paaoo 4. San Antonio, Suite 119
San JOle_ CA 95113
(4081 377-1200
Chri. DUrk1ll
Chief of Police
275 Forest Avenue
Palo Alto, CA 94306
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October 9, 199'2
47-234329
LIRITZ, INC.
L A Fox
3g0l El Camino Real
~~alo Alto l CA 94306
Reg". 91025649
,
Dear Chief DUrkin: " .
~. 18 a notice of the Final order of the Departlent in the
a~atU8t the above licensed premIses.
aet10n
Tbe Departlant baa accepted the licensee'. Offer in cosprOMia. 1ll
the aaount of $1,500.00 in lieu of a 10 day IUlpension.
Tbe Depart.ent'l acceptance of tbe fine will close the file in this
utter.
PCG:;!l
Philip C. Geffert
District Ada1ll1.trator
Bv1a.nce retained 1n the above a.tter for purpose. of
adaintltrativa hearinq 1s hereby relea.ed for appropriate dispos.l.
OEPARTMENT OF ALCOHOUC P::VERAGE CONTROL
'Su ,Jos.e District Oifi .... e
100 Pas eo de San Antonio, suite 119
San Jo;e. CA 95113
1'08)' 277-1200
Dear L1eense.e ~
... .~
~ ~~;~?;~
RECEIVE":)
~~:G 2 1993
~Ot,.1k, _ 0. ""'<.I
July 29, 1993
Referenc~: 47-234329
Bl!twaan"Sept9ber 12; 1992 and June 3. 1993, Officers fro'll the Palo Alto
Police ,Department "responded to twenty six t26} incidents that occurred on
or about your licensed premiseE. '
As you are aware. this .. ounts to a violation of the law and of the Rule~
and Requlations,of the Department. You &5 licensee, are under a r.ontinu1nq
duty to pro~erl~ supervise your premises and prevent such OCcurr&nCe8.
The DepartJlant i's aware that you are attempt1n9 to work with the Palo Alto
Police Departaent in alleviating these problems. Considering your cUrr@nt
dialOgue with the Police .Department and your apparent efforts to o~i·ate-0110
orderly pram1ses,"we.do not intend to file 5n accusation at this t1ae.
HOwever, we reserve'the right to ~rDCeed with the accusation 1f it .ppear~
your efforts to control you~ premises and ope~ate an orderly pre.iBes hav~
hiled.
We ask that you acknowledge receipt of tb~letter and infor. thE nepart
•• nt, in writing, of the steps you have taken to prevent a reeurrence of
these violations.
Th1. letter should be conSidered an official warninv notice, a copy of
,wh1cb will be maintained in your permanent file.
co: LOW file.
Headquarter6i·Licensing
Chief of poliCe..,..-••
very truly yours, -
Philip c. Geffe~t
District Administratcr
.. , ,==
F~OM rEM MKTN5 SYSTEMS
Barron
Park
Association
Palo AI1c. CaIilOmia
RECEIVED
Sfp 151993
s .... ber 1~ 1993
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__ the .. 'I» ill _ ... Iivo. On September 12I!J. the Bo.troI -"'.m ~
II>fI4ioB -.en ~ or_ Pal: ancI the _ ........ FJ CamiM Roo!. O:zr~.
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W. aIso..-Ii) prcMcIo • for.Im to roiIe ..... ~ 1110 ~ noiae, PII>os<. p.uI;iIIa
c 3 1" .' f r ~ ~ ~ wbh bull: : I opcratio,a I&r Ilpm.
!ht ItYel ofiak:nlt _ ~ 1*"", 'm iI a dear ~ that "''« .. 1:1!! ~ ~:-..=:.
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paLA>hipo -""1110 &.roo Pili< .~. ' ..... Iooal-. and cny.....-.. io III e1IOrt 10 _1bt ___ "" the followios _, Ltqtr .......... _4 linlltil
"'" 'n • _ on 1110 impnMog the 'iIoIi!y lI1<I qulity ofb_ Ilona EI Caamo Real
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smc.reIy.
John Benz.
Mcmbc:t Bm-oa. P.n: ~on
415-493·,1.074
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Isouts and a-.ms Idmti1ied II s.ptember Ilt-" BPA lIfeeling
• GtacraJ Commanlty w-1Uprd'"" a.w, ..... OIl ~CR
• Need _ 'pormmIIip' .......,.. th< ~. and:x..incss
• Nood ...... to _ 4c<iAGn molten • nolllelep!ea or ",",lic ",Iobon. oomp;tr.i<a
._ =-0IId .... ..0.. -.nI .. ='r~.Joo&ECR
• 0.". parapbema!io fOllOd on """'" ofECR ond V"""",., _ .. on Mililaty Wzy
• Goztrnl ..... 0(,_ '""" ECR
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• too _ """'I
• Fat food _ &11 aIaos EO. MiIitozy WI)'. oed Baaco Aw
• EI!'or1J to clem _ .... 1imiIocI1o iDdMIluaI __ propcn;..
• AI "'" Emie's Uquor ""'" do not _ "", ..... Iizod san:... dumjmm • Empty lots .,.,lilIOd __
• i6enIify __ of ompt)Ilots "'" _ M II:oy duo Ihom pcriodi<&IIy
·N ....
• \'loibIoIllllIlOiblo"",,-in ....... md~......u..G _~houn
of opmttioD 111100 IleII """ IIok-io-Tho-ao.
• _....... .. • '11) ~ .. 2I3am. ,.nioUIIrIy on 11>0_.
• _, ....... iltllOd IRIIIII4r.. Cuntl>tc, T_ Boll, lad JooI<-lR-n./laz
• What 1.0 CamIxo.-. IIWI)' oftloeir ~ cod II!''' 1110 !loot food, _
• CMnIl .... """"0 bcq ..-em ECR. 1I_1"Ocl
• GnIIiIi
• ~ ""'" ,Coble _ in pftIti _1110 ~ 0(1110 y<:IIt · • ClootoaI per,,; ti 1bot _fuo<t bq __ !IDs !ODd of 'I<ti' .... _.
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·-ltcobzila. on oidowaIb, _ -. ID4puKc ~_ pr.u
bicycle, --. ""'~ IIazonII
• MIlly _ 0(Il10 &cr-"""" "" dritJIcirq: ill pubic 1114 -d8ii _ 00 11>0_
• h!1cit>a OIl -....
• Vmdaliom lad _ ba in=osod ~ ..... 1110 Iortyoar 10)'001' and ... hal!
• r.. c-bro Il1o • -1IY that ...... dirc<1Iy on '" • ..,;dmtia! .......
• """"'" ill dnti ..... and _IS";~ I.y dn!s ",_1M< Ilooombor. • ~ __ ... -... ......... mol o<!t<r poopk lUI do!l:iJtp ~_
t zesi4mli11llf1i1bb If .d
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Issua mel Concern. Idenli1\ed al Seplember 12111 BPA ~Iming
• La 0Jmbre palrons n loiIering on Vam:ra
· u Cumbre pIIrODIi ore -liDi in pubJi<;
• La c..mbn patram Itt "!>miIina 0<1 ~ and in b1Wi<s
-Lo Cumbre pi"""' .... ~ _ ........ ith Ibrir porIOoa
-Lo Cumbre Iw a _OdI>ilitY 10 pro,ide ade1r ..... and oar. pcI;ing
-a-.l bckftllllM<uriIy io m.dcq1l&lC
-Liah <II' DO IOCIJri%y is pn»ided alIer closins ......
-LacI<of_ i ...... __ oflbo cloy 10 day_ afl"tdinaboooincoolcommomily
-AI! AmwioaIo porI;ioc loIlw .... l*\<C41hm at all I>oon oel!!< day~
-AI! ....-.-parki!oa Ie! has become • hoi """ for probIomf _ La Cuml>re cloo<o · v_ dOl B • of~in .... of La Clombroeomirlenlwilb lbeprolilc ofaq doaI
• '!'he III<ioriIY of La Cmohro _ .... ot Palo AlI.,..;.r ..... iii<! IIier<:C<ft lin!< or DO _ for ibo; c""'lii'iDi1y
-c-omII7 _ R9rd1lll T_ BdZ aDd Jock-III-1be-Bos
-!loon ofOpemico
-T_BoIIia..,..,24-..day
-loo1t.JD.1be-llox iI ..,..,11 hours • day
--La ~ ia "'"" -!o;aI15me limit for Iiqoocr aaIo& (2:00am or 2:3O.Im)
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August 9, 1993
Manage.r/OWner
La CUmbre
;3 9 03 El Camino Real
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Dear Manaqer/~~ar:
City of Palo Alto
Deputm. =I o{PImtnjngand
Cammur'..ty tm>ironnlerll
It has ~een brought to our attention that live music is beinq
performed at La cumbre. Our records show that Use Permit '73-
uP-22 does not permit live music. Enclosed is a copy of the
use permit ~or your information and review.
You are hereby requested to terminate any live music at your
establishment immediately.
'I'hank you for your cooperation. Please call me at 329-2276 if
you have any questions.
S~;;:/y~
RICHARD X. CABRERA
Code Enforcement Officer
RXC:jb
cc: Christ RodebL~r, supervisor, Building Inspection
Lynne Johnson. Assistant Police Chief
Captain Tom H~rson
Officer Mark Venable
Sqt. Robert Brennan ~Nancy Lytle, Chief Planning Official
Joe Colonna, Planner
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DeCember 17, 1995
Nancy Maadox Lytle
Chief Planning Official
P.O.BOX 10250
Palo AltO, CA 9430S
SUBJECT: USE PERMIT 7:S-UP-22 FOR 3901 EL CAMINO REAL
Dear MS. L ytJe;
our finn has been retained to assist the owners Of the above
reFereneecl establishment In ttlelr efForts to cOmply with the City's
permit requlremellts and other appropriate reoulatlons. we have met
with the owners on two occasions and toured the neighborhood. Our
initial task was to prepare a list Of reconvnendatlons to the owners
that would begin to bring the operation Of the dUb Into confonnance
with the use permit conditions.
The fOllowing list reflect our recommendations along with actIons ana
Improvements by the owners. I think that you will agree that the
measures listed will go along way toward eliminating this use as a
nuisance.
1. The CAib Is unaer new management with a new apProach.
The music 15 changing In January 1994 to tropical jazz. This
will slCrnlflcantty change the type Of dlentele.
2. A fUll time manager Is now on site. This person will open the
lines Of communication to ttle ania reSidents and wDl
respond to any concems.
S. MOst Of the doors, windows and walls have been l/I$\Iiated
fOr sound.
4. Six Of the eight spaaters were eliminated and the SOUnd
bOard has been located away from the stage. This allows
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the house to manage the music r.rther then the musicians.
S. unifOrmed securtty guards have been hired fOr Inside and
outside Of dub. A marked security car patrols the
neighborhood.
I. A cover charge and dress code has been employed to reduce
the number Of patrons and In an attempt to Improve the
type Of dlentele.
7. The size Of the cocktail glass was reduced and the priCes
ralsed to curtail the amount of alcohol consumption.
8. The Club Is now closed Monday and TUesday so that the
Impacts to the area are reduced.
9. The Club closes at 1:30 am.
10. Parklng plan and parking agreements are being prepared.
11. Additional exterior lights are being Installed.
12. Additional signs regulating parting are being Installed on
the site and In the nelghborhood. The security personnel
are required to direct parklno away from tile neighborhood.
1 S. Club personnel are going Into the neighbOrhood to police
and dean up litter on II nlgMly basis..
14. Bartenders are being tralnecl to recognize and deal with
intoxicated patrons.
1 S. The ClUb ,will Close on CltrIstmas EYe
11. The ClUb'S exterior will be painted soon.
17. The parking lot will be landScaped and re-strlped and
existing planter bOxes will be replanted.
18. The Club will close fOr remOCfel1ng In January.
When the Club reopens, It will feature tropical music and
thUs a different dlentele.
1h anticipate that the above list of measures will greatly reduce the
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Impacts Of the club. Ttle Change In music should greatlY rlHluce the
number Of patrons as well as the type Of Clientele. This will In tum
raClUce most Of the problems.
we Intend to meet with the neighbors after the holidays to hear their
concerns. Additional measures may occur as a result Of that meeting.
It Is the Intent Of the Club to be a gOOd neighbor and to contribute to
the well being Of the City.
I wauldllke to meet with you and your staff to hear your concems and
to discuss the upcommg Planning COmmission hearing. I wIU c:aII you
next week to • f anoe a time. Please direct all correspondence to our
Office and dO not hesitate to catl us If you have any questions.
RespectfullY IuDmltted
Geary T. Coats
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ProJect Manager
Co JOe COlonna, Planner
sue case, senior AS,1stant City Attorney
capt. Tom Merson
RICh cabera, Ordinance compliance Inspector
Donalcl Tennenbaum
DtH:embel' 17, 1993
Dear Neighbor;
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This Is to inform you that the La CUIl1i;;re Club Ii now Ul'ider new
management. AIonv with this ~e, management Is plannlna on
changing the type Of music and refUrtJIshlng the Club dUring the
nnHlth Of January 1994. These effOrts are In O'eSPllHlse to amcems
ralsecl by our neighbors and City OffIcials. Initially we are Improvlna
the appearance Of the Club and Changing ttoe method Of operation.
These Changes wDl result In a new type Of dlentele.
we would like to meet with the neighborhood shOrtly aftet' the first
Of the year to hear your concerns and to outline our planned
Improvemellts. In the mean time we wDl be dosed on Christmas EYe
ane! ttoen dUrIng part Of JanUary while work Is OCQIrring.
on betlaH Of the cto.m, we willi you a Joyous Chrlsbn85 season and look
fOrWard to seeing you In JanLlarY. If you have any QUHtions or need
our assist:lnce, pleaSe dO not hesitate to :all INdy at the ClUb, 1856-
28151.
THANK yOU w--owner
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City of Palo Alto police
275 Forest Avenue
Palo Alto, CA 9430~
Rea L'Ritz, Inc.
Dba LaCUmbre
3~Ol £1 camino Rea~
palo Alto, CA
Dear captain Merson.:
January 6, 1993
Depa rtm.ent
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Followinq our meetinq on August 13, 1992 ~ client impleaentad
all of your BuqqeBtio~~. It bad no further notice ot 4ny alleged
problems until it received your letters dated uecamber 18 and 30,
1992. My client states that it has taken every precaution to
operate its premisRS in an orderly manner ana not to create any
law enforcement problems.
Tbe management ot La CUJIlbre has taken the follovinq steps to
rectify any recent problems that you have ~rouqht to th~ir
attention:
1. Tbey will be postinq two security quaras in the front of
the facility in order to direct patrons to the crosswalk and
prevent them. from jaywalking.
2~ Tbey are traininq ~n£ir doormen to ob~erve and refuse
entry to any intoxicated people.
3. Thay ara atopping in and out privileges in order to
aaintain a closer ovarv1ew of their patrons.
4. They are arranging a training sossicn with the
Department of Alcoholic Beveraqe Control for all bartenders to
recoqnize those patrons that are into~icated in order to prevent
sales to them.
5. They have increased their drink priceg in order to curb
the e~nsumption ot alcohol. Comp6red to all other nightclubs and
bars located on El Camino Real, they have the highest pric~s.
My client hopes that these are viable solutions to the concerns
and alleqed problems that have arisen. It is not the policy ot
La CUabre management to sell alcohol to intoxicated people. They
remain open to anr ot.he.r suqqestions that you may have in order
to ccmply with your requasts.
DAT~cc
cc, Department of ABC
Attn: Philip Geffert
ce: Client
Very truly yours,
Maaager
La Cumbre
3901 EI camino Real
Palo Alto, CA 94306
Dear Sir:
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BARRON
PARK
ASSOCIATION
PALO ALTO, CALIFORNIA
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July 31. 1993
The _ Pari< AssOciatioo BoanI would like to invite you to atIeIld • meeting to be beld at
!be Creelcside Irm, II MaIadero aDd EI CamiDo, 5th tloor peuthowe .. .rite, on Stmdty,
ScfJtember 12th, from 4:00 to 6:00pm. The meetiog will allow you to !tear bow the
f'I'SicIr:nffl aDd ocher businesses in !be area feel about !be _ businesses in !be oeigbborllood
being opeae<! after II :OOpm in !be evening.
As a Boord, we have received IIIIDY pboae calls from concerned residence about activities at
your eslablishmcnt whick do DC( fit weU willi • ,-eSidmtiaJ cummunily. There bas been an
iDcreose ill graffiti, gang activity aDd burglaries wbich seem III coiDci& with In increase in
activities at your places of business after 1l:OOpm. We are now having regular me<tings
with !be City PIanoing Department staff aDd !be Palo Alto PoJice clt:jiiutwent III addrc:s5 Ibis
IB1ICC<:pI3ble _.
We fed it is important to begin openiDg lines of communication ~...", !be neighbomood
aDd your trusin<ss to beIp address these problems tugeIbu. PI .... join us on this dale and
bear !be oeigbborilood c:oocems firsI band. P\ease RSVP this leUer aDd if yoo should have
any questions, please feel free to call me at any time.
415-494-#)22
ce: N .... -y Lytle. Senio< Planner, Palo AIIO Planning Department
Captain Tom M""""" Palo Alto Police Department
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BARRON
PARK
ASSOCIATION
PALO ALTO, CA"FORNlA
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RECEIVED
OCT 20 /SS3
Ocwber 2<l, 199J
The:BOlltd Drllbo ~ Puk A.uocilltio.l. bm ~cwud 'yOW" kuct to t... CYDmn rnanarlD!OVt rC'prllin& l.~ o..~ 21st
beatiDz n:prdiIIj Ihtir Ule. Pmnif m,uP·12. II is !.be: lOlI.ai1MWl opiniotl (Iof dili Board thar La C\tm'bre ill • 'bu$inc:u dULl
ill Be:i&llet ~mpaI.I'bliC' DO!' ~ kl the IUtrOWldil!& r&i~ti&l comm\Ulity.
Duriq:" cat '/eM,period ~ AUj'.i!it J9il2 to ScpIemhu 1993. o..e Palo Alto .ftolie.e ~ I'CCOft!a reflect a
lobi 0' ~bw ad1. for ,.,.."ic. !D d.. t... Cum'h,. add,.... Thirty.two .......-.1 or thaooo o.n. '"""f1'$ ~ fi.hlLa,-, -..It,
or Dabay. Twcaty~ peroeGl or the an. wmI rdatcd: to Litt. ~ of &1.:0b01 udlor ~nlP, TweMy.fix pt:I"'~1 of Cb
can, ~ ~ 10 JtOia otdUWlc:a Of the ,al:bcrin, or J.vwe rruuJltl aD E! CamiDo Jl~1. Io .dd"lliua tu dl!l ear ..
~ to La ~ lbcn! wert u .,dddinnal one-IIU<ed and 1ICvu:ly-Qlnc: caIb ftPOI'lad witbM fLVe 1I1/1Ddnxl '-" 01
.. La CIuDIn property. W. bdicr ... e Chat many of tbe«e ctns weft .moci.~ '.vi.rh t.. Cwub,. ~.
QI ScpUmIM 12Ih of this,..., _. of _ Put "'" ";!b II>e owner of IA (In.me. AI aw Cin>c. Hany
(PreDIMra.O dai...t 1M!: Ibis wu !he firM time IhIl he. hItd beca i..crDnrll:ld or dw pruhleml .-x::Wad: with N Diehl dub.
He pWpd k) tat. ~ COI'nICt.!'IIe ectitm. 5ullileqlwuly, • B&rI'tlcI P&r1I: ~iilioa a:mbc:z' IDIIt wilb 1M La
CuJrln II!ICUrity ~ In teVlCW the: i!Sl8Uell and. cudiM the oe;,abl:lodtood C"JIICenU. To eIIt •• ha b.u ant receive:.! lIWIy
rouow up MiM'inn ~, the IoUWI ur ~r :r:;~ riTartII.
SiDce out 8epte:tIIha !2lh ~I with Harry. Ihe Pat'" AlIO rto1K:e report i"ndic:a.lel IhM Ihetc han bcm IDOIO lhan ten
~ .fUr ~ -.. n:aa1dIIY.lvvap d,-.c CA..-lI the: pl'lCla' l~"'" mouth.l.~ O\.IrinJ nw. I.Imc., La C'lImbl'e m&BllJe1llOllo1 wu.
awu. eft_ Cl!:n!lnllJniIY ~ loS "Wet! u ~ p!ftdinl Marin, OII~. pnMi'hle. revocatjl)4 eflbeit Ute Permit. II is
difficul[ 10 i1Dlpae wha.I: addiliond WiDb the City Planninr Dq.rtm.m ~!.d appl,-• sho«1 of permit revOCliltiOCl -befM:
~ 1/aIIOUld: tab acT:Loc. We br.fiC'le. thai 1M. oomftlUlloit1 i.ft£lulW the Cjll'~:Ij ,pI!rmil nlVu.w f'oToCe:IiS Mnuld bye
beea lUffu:ic::llt ~ 10 ~Iyc these .ICt'iowI ~.
<Ciivm die above cnmbiaalioa. of ~l.!i aad the 1ICri~ of !be problems. IhI:. Bu.rd of tbc &noa Part AaocW:lon
bt.lieYa thII c:oaam.d 0J!'0tIli0li of this bwlncss ~ • cltv and p;ac:nt dIIIl« 10 toc:aI ft:Il.hu aM La C'u.mbR.
~ .. I>\Uina: Ibe pu;t week. mot'e than ~.nUfldn!d feJi;idnlls uf Bamm Park anc..! Venm. ... Avenue b,tve ~.'DCd •
preflilN:m NqLllMtiq thu !A C'umbrc: be dose..!. Tit6 Boanllfrungly ra.:ommt:zuh erll) ~ thallh. Ci.r:y PlanrlinJ::
~ UBmIIdi.telJ N\lo'k, th. La Cu.m'ftrot. U ... 'Pffmfl.
=.: hie Alto City Coun.ciJ
RECEIVED
OCT 20 1393
Mr. Joe Colonna C~At:T'-.'?,'";'"C',,:pLt!r.·mG
City of Palo Alto ":"'Cl: .. :." ... 7:~z·.ao'"",,"
250 Hamilton Avenue
Palo Alto, CA 94301
RE: WLEI ('.Amino Real (73·UP·22)
Dear Mr. Colono.:
Sian Bordagaray
398 Ventura A\e.
Palo Alia, CA 94306
1 bave beeu advised that tbe permit for La Cumbre is being
considered. As manager of the apartment complex on Ventura Ave.
(1382, 384, 386, 388, 392, 394, 396. 398). 1 must request that this
penni< be revoked uoequivocably. The ,iruation bas become
intolerable and potentially dangerous.
Tbe clients of lb. aforementioned ·c1ub" bave constantly
caused problems on cur property. They park in reserved areas,
removing ,,"y possibility for our tenants 10 park in their accu.olomed
OIl-site parking places. This bas regululy caused frustration and b ••
even posed a threat to several of our tenants. On a few occasions, the
club customers W","" quite belligerent and verbally offensive when
asked to move their cars.
Also, this put summer we bad two cars broken into and items
stolen on a Friday nigbt by clients of La Cumbre Q! by iodi vidual.
using all Ibe traffic CD Veutura Ave. as a cover for their ·work.· This
occurred on C1JC property and was appropriately reported to Ibe Palo
Alto Police Department.
Please revoke Ibis Conditional Use Permit and make our street
safe again for the people wbo live there. Thank you for your
consideratioD.
Sincerely,
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Mr. Stan Bordagaray, Manager
Nancy Lytle
Zoning ,\dministrator
City or Palo Alto
P.O. Bo. 10250
Palo Alto, CA 94303
Subject: Use Perm~ !of La Cumbre
DElar Nancy:
3S46 Magnolia Drive
Palo A~o, CA 94305
October 18, 1993
RECEIVED
C~i Z 0 1933
D::=n:r"::i;j ';P.JI<~'~~''G
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I am wri1ing 10 urge you 10 revoke or significantly restrict Ihe use permit fC>l' La Cumbre,
Although t .. s site has been occupied by a night club/restaurant for many years, its
suocess in atlractirIQ lalgela!&-night crowds in reoent years has been accompanied by
a general decline in nearibY residents' sense of safely on and near EI Camino Real.
Not only does !he Ventura n&ighbomOOd (which is closesl) have 10 suffer from the la!a
nil/ht noise, rowdy patrons and illegal activities associated with La Cu mbre, !ha
nightclub has hed a general blightirIQ infiuence on the section of EI Cami~o Raal
be_n Ba.'Ttln Avenue and Los Roblas, La Cumbre can' take the blame for
everything, but ~s Ia!&-nig!lt hours and the availability of aicohol seem to be closely
associated with the increase in trash, litter and police cans 10 the two nearby liquor
stores and Taoo Ben.
This seelion of EI Camino Real is a pall of my neighborihOOd, If we truly wan! 10 create
or reinforoe the concepl of ·urt>a., villages· in Palo Alto, nearby ",sidents should feel
lX)mfottab/e using their commerciai areas in the evening as wen as the daytime. Use.
ike La Cumbre take away that sense of safaty and wen-being.
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We the undersigned, re:iicitnls living near La Cumbre nj~t.tcluh, have bl!com(' incr~asingly
co~med by mstlll"b.a:oce.s caused by Jts pat-t\:iru;. \Ve :Xli~""": that La C~rii.bri'" vptrali::S 1r. a
manner which is detrimental to our bealth, safety and welfare. lb.is bu~iDe.$s is incompatible
with a residential community.
The disrurbances caused by La Cumbre and its parrons have includw:
• Violent behavlor. street brawls
• Drunk and disorded)' conduct
• Excessive noise
• Pubnc urination and vornjtjng
• Broken giass and linering on neishbomood side-walks
We be!iev.e this situation is no longer tolerable and we recomm~nd to the City of P.<.1o Alto that
La. Cumbre's conditiooaJ use permit 8:73-UP-22 be revoked.
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I We the undersigned, reltidents tivjn,g near La Cumbre nigbldub, hav~ ~coml! incrcasln,£ly
concerned by disturbances caused" by lts patrons. -"Ve be1.i~vc t!::;,;,:;,t La C:"<ii'lbr-;; c.po-~ratel; in.a
manner whi-ch is 'detrim.ental to our he.;>Jth, safety and ~.'clf~. Tnis business is incompatible
with a l'esjdential community.
The distu.zblwces caJlsed by La Cumbre ar~d its patrons have included:
, Violent behavior, street bra\\'ls
• Dru.nk and djsord~rly COneuCl
• Exce&s:ive noise
• Public urination and vomiting
Broken gla..;s and littering O!l neighborhood sidewa.lks
We believe this~ is no lonser :olerabJe and we re~omm~nd to the Gty of Palo Alto that
La Cumbre's conditio use pennii': #73·UP-22 be revoked. I']
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We the undersigned, res:idenls livjng uear La Cumbre nishtdub. have b",com,,' increasingly
concerned by disturbances c.t'.J.sed-by its. patror;s. Vole toencvt! that La-C'u.m~r.:: uperat'!~ in.a
:DlaIUlC'r Which is deirimental to our health. &afety and ~"dfare. 1hl., business. js incompahble
wi til .a Iesldectial communiry.
'The disturbances caused by La Cumbre and jts pal rom bave included:
• V:01ent beMvior, street brawls
• Druck and disorderly (:pnducc
• Exces,...;ve noise
• Publlc urination and vomitins
Broken glass and litterin,g OD neighbochood sidewalks
We believe thjs siUJation is no longe-l' tolerable and we recomm{',nd to the City of Pilla Alto thaI
La Cumbre's conditional use pemrit -#73-UP·22 be revoked.
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We the underngne-d, resi.de:tts livins: n~ar La Cumbre nightclub. ha,,~ b~come increu.singly
concerned by disturbances caused-by its patrons, \Ve beli..::ve-:h.:il La C:...:rnbr.: opera!\:" jTl a
manner which is delrimelltal to our health, safety ~nd weJ.f<u~. IPj~ busintss is jncompatibj~
'Wi~ a residential (ommunity.
The dIstwbances c.!USC'<J by La Cumbre and its pa:.ron.s ha'.'e included:
• Violent behavior, street brawls
• Drunk and cfisordedy conduct
• Excessive noise
• PUblicQrinationandvontiting
• Broket:::. glass and linering on neiehbomoocl sidewall.':s:
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We the undersigned. residents living near La Cumbre ruSlltdub. b<!v~ h-cc:nmt" in..::rt'ilsingiy
coocerned by distutbances CBllS(' . .dby jts patrons.-\Vc b<b~'i(e lb..it La Cumbre operate.; in.a
n;anoer wmch is detrimental. to our health. safeoty and wetJ"'are. 1b:i s bu siness is locompatibi('
with a residential community.
The disturbances caused by La Cumbre and its patrons hav~ included:
• Vlolent behl".vjor, st~: brawls
Drunk aroe disordedy cooo.J.ct
• Excessive noise
• Public urination and vomiting
• Broken glass and littering cn neighborhood sidt'walk.s
We believe this sit>JatiOD js no longer tOlerable and ..... e recomm~nd to the City of Palo Alto tl:.at
La Cumbre's conditional use permit #73-UP-22 be revoked
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We the undersigned, residents living near La Cumbre ni,E!hcclub, hav€' De<.-ome increa~jng!y
concerned by disturbances caused by it; patrons. We ~lh:'!'{e'th.at La Cumbre cpetates in a
maIDer wbich is detrimeiU.allo our health, safety and welfart:>. Thls business IS jnwmpatible
with: a residential community.
The disturbances caused b>" La Cumbre and its patrons have incl'Jd~d:
• Violent beba:vlOf, street brawls
• Drunk and di~rderly conduct
, E1icess1ve noise
• Public urination and vcmiting
• Broken glass and littering on neigbbotbood sidcwalb;
We believe Illis situgion is 00 longer tolerable and we recommend to the City of Palo Alto that
La Cumbre's conditional tiS(' pemtit #73"UF·22 be revoked.
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concerned by disturbances caused by it;; pat10ns. Wi: t.eL3t-v~ th:...t L .. C ... ii.brt' u~r;:;I",. in.5.
manner which is detrimenUil to our health, safe-ty and \\'elfare, Thj So bu~inl:!'~5 is ~ncumpatible
with a resjdentia! commuruty_
The diiturban~s C3Used by La Cumbre and ib patrons bave incluckd:
VloIecl behavior, street brawls
• Drunk and disorderly conduct
• E",cessive noise
• Public urination and vonutin8
• Brokec glass and littering 00 neighborhood sldewalks
We believt'. this situation is DO longer tolerable and we n::commend to the City of Palo Alto that
La Cumbre's oonditiona] use permit #73-UP·22 ~ revoked.
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manner which is detrimental to our bealth, ut~ty.and ... df~. This business is inccmpatibIe
with a residential community.
The distu~ caused by La CumbIe and its potIOns ha", included:
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concerned by <fsturbances calised by it3-patrons. \V'I! bt:iie\l~ tt ... ! La Cumbrc .,pt'i<ih::f:. iii 4
manner which is detrimental to OIJr health, scl"ety and wdfar~. Thj $ business is inCOJllpatil1lc
with a residential commul'.ity.
The disturbances caused by La Cumbre.and its panol'!s hay~ incloJded:
• Violent behavior, street brawls
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• Excesslve noise
• Public urination and vomiting
• Broken glass and littering on r.eighborbood side-walks
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concerned by <tisturbances ca;Jsed by it"S palron~, We bet eve that La"Colmbre operate:;; In a
manner which is detrimental to our bealth, safety and we-liare. Ibis busine'ss is incompdlible
with a residential community.
1be disturbances caused by La 0 .. mlbre and its patrons have included:
• Violent. behavior, street brawls
• Drunk and disorderly conduct
• Excessive noise
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• Broki!D glass and littering on neighborhood sidewalks
Vie believe this situation is no longer toler.wle and we rewmrn~nd to the Cjty of Palo Alto that
La Cumbre's conditiomJ use ~t #73 .. UP-21 be revoked.
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concerned by disturbances {:m:sed· by It"S pa[ron~ We belit;'ve tb~{ La Cumbre cr..ern:e'i j;1 a
manner which is detrimental to our health, safely and wt'lfare. lUi s bus:ine~s is incompatible
with a [.esid~nlial communi;;]'.
T.ce di~s caused by 1..1 Cumbre and it:; pafrons bavl:! included'
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• Broken glass and littering on nei:ghboIhood sidewalks
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concerned by di~l!mallces caused'by iu patI'Ons.-W~ beheve that La Cumbre vPC;Iiitc!; in a
manner wbkb is detrimental to ourbealth, safety and welfare. This busin-ess is incompatible
Vl'ith a II".sidential community.
]be disturbances caused by La Cumbre and ils patrons bav~ induderJ:
• Violent behaviQr, street brawls
Drunk and di!lQrderly CO~1}Cl
• Exces.s:ive noise
• Public uti.naUon and vomiting
• Broh-n,glass and littering on neighborhood sldewalks
We believe this situation is DO longer tolerable and we recommend to the Gty of F-dlo A.110 that
La CUmbIe's condltional use: permit #73·UP-22 be revoked.
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We the undt-rs3gned. residents livjn~ near La Cumbre rusiltdub, have become in<;rt=asingly
concerned by diSl:llIbances caused-by us patrons. W~ tJelie\'e .hal La Cu.."tre'vptH'31':~ in a
~ whidJ is detrimental to OW" health, safety and welfare, 'Ibis business is incompatibll!'
with a residential community.
The distuIbances caused by La Cumbre and its patrons have: included:
Violent be-bavior, street brawls
Drunk and disorderly <onduct
• Excessi \Ie noise
• Public urination and vomiting
• BrokeD gIas.s an\llittering on neigbb-,:,mood sidewalks.
We believe this situation is no longer tolerable and we re~om.mecd to the City of Palo .Alto that
La Cwnbre'. conditional u'"' permit 1/73·UP.22 be revoked
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AGENDA ITEM 3 3101 EL tAMINO REAL (LA CUMBREI, ~ppeal of the Zoning
Administrator's decision to revoke conditional yse permit
73-UP-22 gr>nted to an eating and drinking us. at 3901 £1
Camj~o Real, now occupied by La CWlbre. The use permit
allows recorded music and danci~g ass~ciited with tne
on-site sale and cons~tion of liquor. beer and wine. f~le
No, 73-UP-2t. Contioued from Planning Commissio' meeting of
Janyary 26, 1994.
(Coamisstoner Carrasco joins the meeting.)
COairqgrsgn Schmidt: Are ther~ additional comments from staff?
Nt Cglonnl: There are no additional comments, b~t ! wo~ld like to
introduce Captain Toe Merson and Mark Venable from the Police Oepartment
who are here for your consultation.
Mr. C.TOfU": I haw!' some com.entL First, [ want to explain why I am
here, as oppcsed to Slle Cue. I am here to adv1 se the Planning (OIiIJIi ssiorj
in order to iyoid any appearance of i conflict or lack of impartiality on
the part of Our office. Sue Case, if at all, would h •• e advised the
ZQni~ Administrator on how to proceed witb t~is. In that instance, she
would then be aeti~ as a ~ro~eclltor. ~e have divided o~r functions in
the offfee so that tfle person ad",is1ng t"e decislomnakers does not have
any Tole fn the prosecutoria1 fu~et10n. What that translates to i~ tnat
tonight I will be .dvlsing the CORliss ion only. I will not be in a
position to advise Ms. lytle's staff or the Poi ice Dep.rbaent as to the
issues that tney aay confront during the proceedings.
The second thing I wo~ld 11ke to dc, in order to make it very clear for
this recorrl~ is to give the ca..;ss10n some additional information on the
legal standards that apply here. These.re standards that I hope are
helpful is yo~ ~ear the evidente tonight. In order to revoke or modify a
use permit, there are two basic standards thit are in botn the staff
report and in the li~, ge"eral'y. The first is violation cf reasDnable
conditions. ff the o(OIIIIIiss;on finds yjolation of reasonable ct'nditions,
tne use permit can be revoked. The second is in o~r ordinance --injury
to health, safety and general welfare. Under our ordinance. that is
grounds not for revDcatfon but for modification of the ~se permit. Tne
courts ha~e add!d a little gloss to that. What it really translates to is
tllat th.r. has to be some eOl1ljlell in9 public necessity sho.." before
",vocation is done on tfle basiS of a health, safety or genera,l welfare
preble.. That is really a nuisance type standard. It is a very tough
standard. In order to get to that kind of deCision, the Planning
Cu.1ssion needs to s.atisfy itself that other alternatives. slJch as
stricter conditions of appro~al or other li~1tations on the operation,
will not work.
The last th~ng ] want the commission to be aware of is that t~is is one of
tne few forms of decision you will ha~e where a court will give no
def2rence either to the Planning (ommission or City Council decision.
do not necessarily agree wit" tnat legal position, but there are cases
that say that a court exercises its independent judgment on thfs record.
What that means is that your reasons for taking action will not be
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persuasive to .a court, if this gets to a court. Ther'9for-e, the k.inds of
oyid.nce t~at you will b. looking at will be fairly limited and tnat tne
typical djscretio~ that the commission nas to do what is right is really
not here. T~is is I fairly strict kind of proceed;~g. So [ wanted to
get t~os. Issues out before the hearing proceeded.
'OI!fssiopcr Carrasto: Ariel, could you elaborit~ a little more on
Finding II and the vloiation of relso"ble conditions. What does that
alii?
Mr. CiJonne: As [ re~f9W this record, there is an alleged violation of
condtt1ons In t~at there has been live music, ~ere the existing pe~it
.llow$ recorded music only. The other allegations, the crowd concerns,
the ather safety threats, are not expressed condition violations, sa those
would have to be analyzed ~nder tne cOftP&lling public necessity standard
that I mentioned. Do those conditiO"' pr.sent a compelling public
necessity for terminating t~e use? Or sa1d in another way, are there
other alternatives or additional conditions that can be i~posed that would
addT! S S tiles e.l_
By way of backgrcund, I ought to !.'Plain to people that the reason the
coyrts ire so protective is that this fs a 20-year-old use permit, and it
is ~tewed as a s~bstantial property right. Revocation would be~ in
essence, a complete taking of tnat property riq~t. So you are held to a
very high standard.
tQ!li$s1oner ~! I" terms of looking at alternatives, one, of
course, fs to cbange the hours of business. Are tnere constraints on our
flexibility in doi~ that, i~ terms of reasonableness or property rights?
Mr· Calonne: Net that I a~ aware of. Staff ~ay wish to comment.
Ms. Lytle: Hot that I am aware .f.
Commissioner Ojakjan: How about along those lines, restrlcting the a-ount
of usage Qn the site? limiting the nuMber of pcoplp. wno can use the Site.
Mr. Calonne: Depe~ding upo~ what you hear tonight~ that kind of condition
can be reasonable.
Cha1rp.rson Schmjdt: I would Hke to hear il few cOfMlents from the PoHce
Department about the recent police calls in t~at area.
Capt4 Herson: The recent police calls have been primarily recorded from
September, ]993 to tne end of January, 1994. Th~re have been eleven
calls, and we can break that down into these: a domestic violence call,
one suspicious circumstances ca'l, one warrant arrest, four other
disturbances~ one suspicious vehicle, one battery and one alarm. That is
tne sum total of cllls for that period.
Chairperson Schmidt: For prior times, all that infonaation 15 listed in
our staff report4 [t 1S ~ understanding that the facility was closed
'ome of the time during this most recent period.
Capt. Merson: J believe so.
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Commissioner GI,lf-r: Thos2 ~umbers of calls lppear to be down somew~at
from o~r experience ever tne past 13 to 16 months. Or. a couple of
occasions throughout the report, there have bee~ indications that the
style, the fOrlat, tne fucus of the busfness has changed, aak1ng it such
tnat it .ig~t attract a less rowdy crowd. Have you seen t~at at ali? Has
the Police Department noticed th~ change in the ~usiness reflected i~
t~ese arrest changes?
Capt MersQn: There is no question that there appears to be a diminution
in activity there. W~at the reasons for t~at are, we Ire not sure, but
there hiS been I decided lessening of police cills, fDr sure,
Chairperson Schmidt: I wo"ld like to comment that I visited the Site two
wetks ago. and toured the facility but did not ha\'c any conversations with
the .pplicint about this item. W. just loo~ed it the facility.
CQ!!iss1oner SchtnK~ let the record indicate tnat 1 Ilso visited the
site.
Com!1$$io"er Carra$co~ The retard sho~ld indicate that I also visited the
site, and I did not haYe any conversations wit~ the applicant.
ChalrpersDn Scmnigt: r wi'l no~ open the public hearing. We will begin
with the appellant or his representative.
Donald Tenenbaya, 831 Soyth Winchester BOY]@Vird, San Jose: I am an
Ittcrney representfng t~ owner of the club. The owner is a corporation,
I California corporation called L'Ritz, Inc. The person ~o owns
80 percent of the corporation owns at least ten other ~ightclubs. He is
not here tonight, although he was here the last time. Tonight he is out
of the country; he could not chaoge the schedule that he had.
My arg~nt in favor of the continuance Gf the use perait is set out
pretty fully fn the staff report exhibit, which .as the arg ... nt that [
.. de before the ZonIng AdmInistrator at the tl .. we had the hearfng back
on October 21, 1993. [.ill not go Into that In dotall, but would like to
su..arize a couple of points.
The first time it ca.e to the att~ntion of t~e owners of the business ~r
Myself that there was iI violattor. or a problem there was in the sunmer of
1992. At that time, [ met vith Captain Merson ind I .. t with Hr.
Venable. FDr the last yeir~and-i-half. ilmost two years, 1 have be~n
working with th~, responding to any comaunication that t~ey give to at.
attending any .eettng that they wint me to attend i and it appears that we
have been tryfng to work out any problems that there were. The first t1me
that we specff;cally knew of any prob1~ with the neighbors was in
Septe.ber of 1993, the period of tl .. that Captain Merson indlcatee that
the probl ... had decreased.
When Ciptain Nerson originally .. t with .. in July uf 199Z, he told me
t~at there were some problems ~f nOise with the ne1ghbors~ ] wanted to
~ow specifically, how could there be probl ... of noi.e with the neIghbors
free thIs place, because the closest neighbor WiS some distance aw.y. [t
WIS not like they were just over a backyard fence. The closest neighbors
were 1U1tiple-f~ily units, duplexes, four·plexes, etc, So we never did
get the specifics.
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We ~ere invited tc attend I ~~tfng 1n 5e~tember, 1993. Tne principal
owner of the corporatfo" a~ ~yself attended the ~!t1ng, heard
spec~fically what these pro~leMS wpre. and it that tfme, he attempted to
NctHy these problems. EVen though the pollc, ""port, indicated.
dramatlc dec,..,.,. in the c,ll, to the preml.es and thE .lleged problems
from Septe.ber of 1993 on. this did not seem to have impressed the Zoning
~fnfstratQr. In October, she ordered th! revocation of the use penmit.
A polnt th.t should be of interest ls that the Department of Alcoholic
8everage Control that has kind oT W!lved its way throug~ thi3 t many of the
t~fngs that are il1egation~ of .1scondu(t on the premises are tne Sl~
types of ictlvitles that the DepartMent of Alcoholic Beverage Control
would take i"tc (~ns1derlt1on if th~y ~ere to 1mpos~ disciplinary action
against the licensee at the pre.fses. That ~ould be disorderly conduct t
excessive police calls, conduct tnat ~as detrimentll to the public
welfare, s.f,ty and oor.l.. In October of 1992, .s reflected in the
re~ort that you have, t~e Depirtment of AlcoholiC Beverage Control sent a
letter to the licensee, telling the lice"., that they had heard of these
problems from the Police Department, ind if the licensee did not
straighter. up hiS att and try to pre~ent occ~rrences of these problems on
the preeises, the Department of Alcor"c;lic Be,.,erage Control would take
action against the premises. That w.s ln October of 1992. This i.
february of 1994, a year-and-a-half liter. The Department of Alcoholic
Beyerag~ Control has not taken any action against th~ premises, As far as
I know, there has never b!en any arrests or ABC Yiolitions. the kinds that
yao WGUld expect If, it. fact, this were the type of pre.i.es that .a.
contrary to public welfare and morals in Dr about the premises, yo~ would
expect sales to .inors. you would expect sales to obviously intOXicated
persons, you ~ld expect sales after hours, things like that. The ABC
has filed no iccus.tions for any of those, nor Is t~ere any indication of
such arrests. To.y knowledge (and I mIght be wrong on this and the
Captain can eorrect me), there have not been any arrests wit~in the
pre.ises for violations that have occurred within the preaises. There
have been arrests fro. t1~ to tiae on a warrant t where they cbecked
sa.ebody Dut and found aut that there fs I ~arrant out for SOMething that
he eommitted many .iles away, but not far violations that nave o(curred
within the pre~ises,
I want to bring your attention to one letter, and that is a letter dated
July 29, 19~3 fr<>m-tlle Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control that is in
this packet. It is directed to the licensee. Remeober t,at In October of
1992, the Depart.int sends the first I.tt!r to the licensee, telling tne
licensee, we have these allegations that tbere have been excessive tailS.
If you do nat clean up your act, we are going to file disciplinary action
against you. In this letter in your packet some nine months later, the
Departaent says, ·T~e Oepartsent is aWir~ that you are attempting to work
with the Palo Alto Police Depart .. nt in .11evlating the.e prabl ....
Cons1dering your current dialogue with the Police Depart .. nt and your
apparent efforts to operate orderly premises. we do not intend to file a~
accusation at t~is time. However, we reserve t~e right to proceed with
tne actusation if it appears that your efforts to contral your premises
and operate an orderly premlse, have f.iled." That wa. in J"ly of 1993,
and we lce approaching July of 1994 in another four or five ~nths. The
Oepartlent still has not filed tnat dccusation. Tnat is consistent with
the f.ct that beginning ln September of 19S3, when the licensee beciDe
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aware specifically of Ute neighbors' concer'ns, the licensee Clttempted to
alleviate th~ b~ changi~ security. changing clientele, changing method
of operation, things liKe that. When the licensee found that the Zon1ng
Administrator d1d ~Dt see it the Wi) ~I!' did. ttlat 80 percent owner.
together wit~ the concurrence of the Soard of Directors, ~ho are the
owner, attem;>tod to s.l1 the premls.es. With the cloud of the pending
revocation af the use per.lt. he has nr.t been $ucc!ssful in f1~ding i
buyer. Howeyer~ ~e did find ~ .anage.e"t te~ that wo~ld come in there
and attempt to striighte~ ~ut the proble., with the indication tkat if it
could stralg~t.n out .n~ preble. that •• s there and r"n the place to the
satisfaction of the neighbors and .tt~t to see that the neighbors
enjoyed the reasonable use of their neighborhood, considering that it
bordered an I commercial arel Ind could di~inlsh the pollce calls, it
would consider buying the bu~ines$.
What has happened is that management has gone in there, and the managem!nt
has done seyeral things. The first t~lng the new .. nagement did was to
retain a consulting firm that is very experienced in handling
adMinistrative problems ar.d in c~nl(ating _ith neighbors~ something
thit ] cannot do as an attorney_ What I do is to try and straighte" out
legal probl~ and, if necessary, litigate cases. The owners ~f the
premises Ire experts in runni~g the premises. but root 1" communicating
whit th~~ are doing to the neighbors. So Coats Consulting has attempted
to go cut into the neighborhood, find out what the specific problems are,
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The se~ond thing that the new .anageaent has don~ is to put to use its
expertise In prior places that it has owned and .. naged, where it has had
tts co.aercial preMises border o~ a re~idEntial area. It has don~ the
things that Ire necessary to decrease. if not almost eliminate, some of
these prable.s, It has hired new security, intensive sec~rity; it has
dane triinins for security, put in in entirely new operation of the
pre.ises, and according to ~y understanding (I do not police the
activities there), th~ premises has not closed. Any c10sure of the
premises is not a cause for a decrease Tn police a~tiy;ty. I believe t~at
they have eli.jnated one of tbe nights that they were operating, but they
have never actually closed the pre.1ses.
As an indication of the incidents being dcwn, about two w~eks ago, at the
ti~ that this item was previously set, that afternoon, I called Mark
Venable with thE Palo Alto Police DepartMent and said I had not 90tten any
new reports from the Police Department. Was it a mistake, or what? So
what he did was t~ photocopy and FAX to me the reports that ~ad Dccurred
since the October meeting with the Zoning Adm1nistrator~ I went thiough
those reports. Many of them .ere for the location of 3901 El C .. ino, and
aTaost all of them were for the aotel there. Tne on1y ones I could
specifically see that indicated they were pol;~e reports is that tnere was
one Incident in January of 1994, oor,ing bac'.ards, that could be
attributed to these premises. one incident in December of 1993 that could
be attrfbuted directly to these premises; and two calls from ~eighbors for
noi~e in No~e.ber of 1993, with the notation on there that there was no
substance to one of the calls. It was underlined -No disturbance.~ That
Is all I could spec'fic.ll~ find. But even if, in fact, there were nine
that were generalities that tne police can attribute to these preaises, or
eleven, as they say, d~ring a five-MOnth period of time, we have
lpproxfaately two a mont~, which for tbe Police Department is two too
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aany, but cons1derlng the number of people t~at are there and the fact
that ~ou have a nightclub, it obvious1) is not in u"reasonablt u~e of th~
premises. ! WQuld now like to nlve Jt. Weaver cf Coats Consulting talk.
and he will tell you w~at he has done as a cn.arunity effort here.
Cp!l1safoner Glazier: Mr. Tenenbaum, you did say during your comments
that the Oepartaent of Alcoholic Be~tr~g2 Control ~ad never cited you or
taken action on th~ facility? 1 nete l letter here in our packet of
October 9, 1992 which i, addressed to '"ief Durk!n and copied to you,
indicating that there was. fino •• de of tho c.-pany in the areount of
Sl,SOO in lieu of a ten-d~ syspensicn of the license. SC that, in fact.
contTid'cts your statement.
Hr. Teniobaum; No, it doesn't. let me explain it~ please. What ~appened
is that the operator of the pre.ises had sold the business. There was a
$&1. pending t. SODeo.e .ls~ during this period of tiae. The other
operator v's in there und~r an interi. operation agreement. When YDU go
dawn to the Department of Alcoholic 8everagE Control and you file an
application for a transfer, tne buyer can get i temporary license to
operate the business w~ile it is pending. The buyer wa~ operating the
bustness whiie it was pending, and during that p~riod of time, there was i
violation. What the violation was _is a .inor that had a false
identification and was on the preMisPs. There was no sale of alcohol or
anything else, but it was by that buying entity. and w~en the seller fou~d
out aboyt that. it rescinded the agree.ent and took the premises back.
'OIIj$sjonrr Glazitr: Jf you look it t~e reference numbers on t~e two
letters, t~ey are the same, so one .1ght assume that tn~y relate to the
.... incIdent •• Also, the writing in t.is initi.l letter indicates,
·Patrons ~ery intoxicated and t~nd to loiter, f19~t and cause
disturbances .•
Mr. lenenb.UI: There arE a lDt of allegations. bYt the Oepart8ent of
AlcoholiC Beyerige Control ha~ neyer filed an accusation 19ainst this
owner of t~ese pre-ises.
toamis$jooer ;]a;ier: And t~ere is the letter to us dated J~1y 29t~ ~efe
they do say, very specifically, that following that other ~arning. in
thefr words, there appear to be v;oliti~ns of the law a~d consider the
letter to you an official warning to you that these need to be curtailed
Dr they will ta,' further action.
Mr. Tenenbaum; I agree that the letter spe2ks for itself. The alleged
viol~tions are thE clai~s by the Police Oepart.ent that there were
violations ~el"'e. Un.fortu{\t:.tely, we <10 not see any police reports here.
What we receive are printouts, and t~e prf~tout$ go to 3901 [1 Camino
Real. As I c~ecked the last four pages of printouts there, I would say
thal 90 to 9S percent of them had to do with the motel toat is t~ere, not
these. prem.ise.s~
At any rate, the Oepartment of Alcoholic Beverage Control, in 1ts July 29,
1993 letter i. tellin9 the licensee that it has received allegations from
the Police Department that therE are proDiern. at the premises. It further
goe~ on to say that you ha~e been workiR9 with the Po1ice Oepartment. and
if you work with the Police Department, if you correct tne:e problems t we
are not 90i~9 to file against you. If you don't, we are g~ing to file
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against you. I can only say that thfl havE worked out tnt problems, and
they ~.ve not been filed against since that warnin~ in JuTy, 1993.
Cqmaiiii2ner 'latier: One last question? and this may be I quest;~n for
the person from COltS. ] would be very inttrested to lea~n which of th~
]8 reca..endations ~ive, in fact, be~~ fmp'~nted. In your comments, you
Bay haye 1nd'cated tnat S~ of them hive not been followed up on or have
not been t,cepted. I wo~ld be very interested in understanding the exter.t
to whj,~ the oppellant tonight has actually gone forolrd with these good
'a1th recOMmendations to 1aprove t~e situ.tion.
Mr. IenenbaWl~ First~ I don't tnink I told you this, but the aanagernenl
personn~' t~~t are in the~ have deCided that they thi~k they can run the
place c~nsfstent with coamunity welfare~ and tney have EKerctsed t~e1r
option to buy the plite. T~ey have signed i (ontract to buy it; they have
opened an escrow, and they have applied to the Department of Alcoholic
Beverage Control for the transfer of the licer-se. You are correct. It
would be more within their province to tell you tnat.
Com.is$ipner Carrasco: Regarding liv! music, can you tell me on what date
did you dis(cv!r that live music WiS not per.r.itted? Did you ad~ise your
client about th.t1
Mr. Tenenbaum: I never discovered that live music was not permitted.
discovered that the Planning Department alleged that live ~us1c is not
permitted. When [ loc~ed into the matter, I saw that in ]973, there was a
conditional ~$e permit that was granted. It specifically says~ for
recorded music, but it also speclfi,a11, says, for da~cin9. In 1973.
there werem't any OJ' •. Almost .11 music tnat was in clubs like t'is (ano
this club that was operating at that tl .. had live ... lcj from 1973 until
the present time, 21 years later, th!y have had live .us;c in the place.
I t.ln onl1 say that th~ allowance of not 1 ive music for 21 yeu"s:, togettler
wit~ t~e al1owa~ce of danci~ in the conditional use permit, appears to me
to be I reas~nable use of thE condition by the premises operator.
CQM!i$sicngr Carrasco: Do did y~ advise your client that li~e ~U$ic
would be penoltted? Th,t it can eontinu.?
Mr. Tenenbaum: I am advising them that if the conditional use permit is
revoked on the grounds that there was a violation of the condition by
having live ausic there, \,Ino'er the circUJlstances of specifkally allowing
dancing In the premises and .11oving live music for 21 years~ that the
cit1 wDuid De wrong, end that they should fight it in court if that ;s
their opt1an~
CQllissjpner 01akian:
the club that happened
what those were?
You mentioned two incidents that you attribute to
in the last seVEral months. Co~'d 1hU characterize
M~. Tenenbaum: J can only tell you ~hat it says on the pri~tout.
Unfortunately, we do not get a police report, and this is somebody's
sw.aary.
CQII1s$foner Qiakian: am sure you have you hid a chance to look at the
calls for serYtc~ list running from August, )992 to August, 1993. [n
there, tt eharacterizes ~nqst these 82 some odd calls, jf we go dawn,
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August 2'3, 2993, arrest for drunk driving. AuglJst 23, 19513, al"Nst for
nlrcotfcs. I Cin go througn thB whole thing, but there were several
Irrests 'Dr drunkenn~ss and r.lr(otics. There are severa' arrests for
altercations, fights in front of the business, batt try. an arr~st for
assault, etc. The Question is, you have seen these? Are you saying that
these arE things that didn't happen?
Mr. Tenenbaya: I .. saying that in .11 probability, those things
happened j but where was that arrest for drunk dri~in91 and how does that
have Inlt~1ng to do w;t~ these preMises? I don't know. Was this was
somebody who was stopped on the corner of Ventura tnd £1 C~fno Real in
front of the pr~ises who kid consumed ~is alcono1 1n San Jose? There is
no ~tldicitfDn that this: is I penon who • .is drinking in this c1ub, that
was obviously fntoxicated and ~nt nut and got fn his car and was arrested
for drunk driying. No indication whatsGeyer on th.t. I aa saying that
there is no nexus, no connection between ill of these. The bulk of thest
are loud .us1c, and tnese are co~laints from (1t1zens on tne loud mus;c~
One. if they occurred, thty ha~e def1nttely been contai~ed since you had
new management without absentee ownership_
With reqard to tne rest of them, J don't know where they occul-red. Tne
only one in that Qyick look that] aa giving to the list you referred tat
it says, verbal dlsturbance between band and bcuncer~ r am assUMing that
has sa.ethir.g to d9 witn th~ premises, a"d ~t .1ght be either on or off
the pre.1sel. The arrest for assault, disturbance, battery, unruly
subjects, unrul) subjects where? ~at? How? Tnere is no connection
he .....
CQ!!1§s1pn'r Qjak1an; ] get the idea. We will get back to thfs when we
talk to the Police Oepartaent before this hearing Is over with to see how
they substantiJte su.e of these t~ings.
The staff report mentions an event that happened on September 11, }993. I
large altercation taking place in close pro.i.ity to thIs club. Are you
f .. i1iar with that?
Mr. Tenenbaym: No, I am-not.
Commi§sioner OjaKiin: Did you read the staff report?
Mr. T2nenbau~: Yes, I read the staff report.
Commissioner QiakjAn: Oid you ncte mention cf that 1ncide"t~
My Tenenbaum: Yes, I saw it.
COMmissioner Qjakian: 00 yo~ nave any CQ~nts about that?
Mr. Tenenbaum: No, I do not. I don't condone any conduct that has
occurred on the premises in the past. If it was a ~iolation of the law,
if it waS attr1~table to the management of the premises, I do not in any
~ay condone that cond"ct. I can only tell you at this time that wner. the
conduct has ca.e to the attention of the manageaent, who should have been
on the premises preyious1y .. n.ging it and was not, he attempted to
strai9~ten it out. Tnat is ~anffest by the reports that ~aye occurred
since t~er.. Putting it in the word~ of Officer Ye~able when I called bim
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two wl!'fks ago a"d asked t.im how things were t~E!'re, these were his exact
q~otes~ -Calls for servi~es are way dawn.--It is well within a
manageable area.-Tn!s! were his words. This is what it is no~, and this
is the way it should be. J se! no reason why it won't continue that way.
Coamissiooer Piakjan: Getting back to the !¥ent we just talked about,
where you said you would ~ot condone an event like that~ in your own
wards~ lGOking at the lon1ng Administrator's hearing, is that type of
event an ~nreasofiible event in terms of the safety of the people who live
in Ui.t areil?
Hr. TenenbaUM: I will h4ve to review it a~ take I lock at it. but
obviously if there is a large f1ght~ if tner~ are disturbances, yes, that
is unreasonable.
CQM!lssioner OJJ!i!n: That is an unreasonable e~.nt?
Mr. Tengnbaym: An e~ent~ ~es. An event.
Chairperson Schmidt: Can you tell me how mu," the club ~zs been open and
how muc~ it has been closed between the recent ll~ of the poi ice reports
that we nave just discussed?
Mr. Tenenbaum; I ciln Qnly tell you what they have told me, and thBt was
Tn passing. That is that for S~ perlod of tl~, they have c10sed on
Th~rsday nights. Ot~er than that, the schedules r~ined the same. But
as far as being specific about itt tne g~ntleM~n who has been managing the
club is ~.r. to tell you that.
Commissioner Sch1nk: If I can summar1z~ what you see. to be saying to ~S,
all of the problems tnat Dccyrred were due to mismanagement under tne
club's ownership, but now~ th~y nave new management, $0 it is properly
~na9ed. What assurances do we have that this owner wonlt ,llow it to
slfp into .isManagement again?
Mr· Tenenhaum: Well, you hay, severa'. One that your attorney hiS said
is to iapose reasonable conditions. T~at would be one, whatever thos~
re-as.onable conditions would be. If those conditions are unreasc;'1a.ble,
then you face a court situation the same as you would for not valfdly
revoking the conditional use permit, per S!. That would ~ o~e way. The
other way would be to allow the operation of the club to cont~~ue as it
bas been witn this .. nigement~ knowing the fatt that yo~ have the
opportunit1 tQ do what you are doing now It any ti~ --revoking the
conditional use permit or apply conditions that will furtner bring it into
Hne. You are sitting there with thE h._r. If, 1n fact, they do not
operate it in a reasonable manner far the reasonable enjcyme~t of the
ne;gnbor~ood, you tan always do wnat you Ire doing now.
Commlssjgner Carrasco: You kind of mentioned that the police incidents
did not start at la Cu.bre. If r read the testiPOny here by Patrol
Captain Tom ~er$on, Tum Oestefano, Serg~ant, i9!int Destefano, taptain
Merson again on Pages 8 tnrough }] in the minut~s of the Zoning
~ifiistrator hearing, tnere arE several incidents t~at ha~e been
docUliented in the police records that dl) show that the occurrences sta.rted
at La C~mbre, or people who ~aye been arrested testify that they have
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Mr, Ttne"bay~: let ~e try to qualify. To my kno.1edge, from reading
thro~gh what l've got, wh1Ch ts the sa~ as you ha~e, and not havi~9 the
police reports, r know of no arrests w:thin LI Cumbre fur vicl~t10"S of
the law within La Cumbre. I Ar.OW of roone. ] ~jght be wrong, but it
appears to .e that the arrests that were m30e in l~ C~re were made for
~arrants Dn people ~hom they found, tn eheCKouts of tht~, that there were
Gutst~nd1ng warra~ts for ~iolltions in other places, and there may have
beer. arrests for ~'1ohtiol1s ouh1de of La Cuabre. Okay? Ooes that make
it a little clearer? That is only from the information that ! haye~ If I
was given police reports that show otherwise, 1 would not sa, that. The
other thing is that to my knowledge, there were no arrests in or about La
CU8bre for ABC violation~ during the period of tiDe whe~ ~ client WiS
operating t"e pro.;,e,. By ABC vio'atlons, those are the kinds of
viol.tions that you u5ui'ly would expecl In a place lhat is a"egedly
operating contrary to pup'ic welfare ind ~r~l~. That would be arrests
for sales or service to minors and arrests for sales to obvfously
fntoxicited personi.
There is a code section in the Business and Professfo~5 Code that allows
you tG irre~t i person who is serw1~ an obviously intoxicated person. If
there were drunks a11 tne place tnat you grab an ~nferenc:e fTOll by looking
at this lnfonlat'on, 1 would expect that there would be an Irrest of a
bartender Dr t~e owner of the place for serving an obviously intoxicated
per50n. To.y knowledge, t~ere wa5 no such ~rrest. That is whit I am
saying.
Chairperson Schlidt: You .ent1oned a p!nd1ng sale of this facility. Can
you proYi~e us w1tn documentation on the sale?
~r, Tenenbaum: Yes, the perscn who 1s going to speak here went down to
ti>e Department of Al coho' I c 8.,. ... g. Control today to fll. an app 11 <at Ion
fer the transfer. He 1S IV1ilable to give you t~e info~at1on. He owns
the better portion of the corporation, if not ill of the corporation, t~at
Is buying the preMises. ~ is the brot~r of the person who has an
BO percent interest in the corporation. Looking it that right on Its
surface, that does not look like an inN'S length transact'o~~ However, he
~iS nevpr been in ~s1ness with his brot~~r. He has, in esse~ce. beer. a
coopetitor of his brother. He ~as owned other nlg~tcl"bs and stl" oons
other "igktcl~bs. ar~ owns them in areas .nere they border on reSidential
areas. He has ~eye~had a Yialat;on~ He bas hid ma"~ licenses in many
aightclubs~ He kas never ~ad a Yiolation of the Alcoholic Beverage
Control Act, and he hiS never been arrested nor has there ever been any
probleas in lny of his clues, to my knowledge.
MY client had att~mpted to sell this, but just could not find a buyer with
this problem hanging over its h.ad. So his brother, feeling comfortable
that h. could clean up tho situ,tion, said, )'11 tell you wIlat. ) .il' ~o
in and ~nage It, If I can manage it and if ] can tUrn it around, 1 will
consider buy~ng it. So w~at he is doin9 is, he is going to buy it now,
because he is comfortable t~at he can turn it around. An escrow 1S gofng
to be opened witn .. noy. Thero will be a bulk trinsfer that will be
recorded and published. There .ill be an application to the Depart .. nt of
Alcoholic Beverage Control wit~ full exposure as to what the cons~deration
for the transfer is. and it is an arm's len9th transaction. If you want
to police it, you can police it the ~ime way that you are policing this
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Chalrpor,OD Schmjdt: Did yoo "Y th.t the .~plication to ABC ha, been
•• de or wl1\ be .. de?
Mr. Tencnbaum~ The application .as taken d~ t~ere today, and one or two
of t"-doc .... nt. ""re not --the ABC will or,ly accept tile appl1catlon If
every docuaent is in crder~ That ~s th! f1nanC;ll affida~lt. the pe~sonal
Iff~div1t, I rEc~rded notlt! of transfer, i stock questionn~lre, a diasram
of the pre.1ses. the stock in the corporation that is applying has to be
1s$ued, .1~utes of the corporation have to be there, the articles and t~e
byl.ws. If anyone of those tnings is not tnert, there was an appoint.ent
.,de .e.er.l weeks ago for 8:30 this morning. The gentleman went down
there. and one or twa of the doc~~nts did not pass .uster, so a furtner
appoint.ent was made. It is IY understanding t~at it Is fGr next
T~e$d~. I do n~t represent them. I represent the current DWner~ That
Is what he t.lls Me, and he is here today. I .sked nil whether or not ~e
was successful today, and he told me no, and that fs what he's got. But
It will be recorded. and it will be published, and it will go through.
ll.1!1 WeUtr, CDaU Consu1tlng, 90S7 SOQyel Oriv!!" A!)tQ.i: Good eve"in9~
Chairperson Schmidt and members of the c~;ssio~. In i little while, J
will be saying Good Morning. Just by .ay of • brief background, I am 0
prcfessional land use pTanner with four Dr fiVE years experience in the
prf~lte sector handling c.ses si.ilar to this lnd a iot of other planntng
satters. [also have 12 years of Experience with the County of Santa Cruz
as I staff planner, and have handle~ many use permits and haVE sat at
tables like that on your side of the fence, 50 I prEtty ~th know both
sides of the issue here.
We beca.e involved it the beginning of December, and dyring the last
two-and-a-half mont~s or so, I have had the opportunity to talk t~ the
planning stiff, to talk to S~ gf the key neighborhood representatives,
and as well. I naye had a chance to lOOk through tne staff reports, the
police reports, the neignborhood complaints, and sa.e of the other items
that have .ade up yoor rJther lengthy packet. After .11 of this, ., first
reaction was, what a mess. The list of complaints paint 1 pretty grim
picture. ! th1n( it is ~nfortunate that t~e situatlo~ got to tnis pOint
a.nd got so out of hand. I think WE! could probably speond this night and
.any others discussing particular instances of where things occ~rred based
or. police reports, nefghborhood eo~cerns and ~omplaints~ and we would
spend a lengt~ of ti.e m~be not necessarily ipproprtate trying to ferret
out all of those different issues.
What I WDuld 11k. to do is to perhaps try and guide us on a different
course. T~at ~o~ld be to try and see if there Is a way to maintain the
ptn.1t on behalf of the new owner and to rectify the situation such that
this facility becomes a good ~ei9hbor. To tnat regard, I would l!ke to go
through sa.e of the changes that haye occurred dur,ng t~e last
two-and-a-half mont~s on the site. Please understand tnat these changes
are i~tended as a beginning, and that 'lie a"f"e interested in hearing .. "hat
your ca..ission and your staff ha~e to say and what sugg!stions yuu may
have to offer. As well, ~e wDuld like to hear from the neighbors and see
what other conditions or concerns we could impleme~t that would help make
thl. a better facility.
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So we ~1ew t~is as the beginning of a new relationship witn th~ city and
with the neighborhood. A. alluded to by Mr. Tenenbaum. the most
significant tHtJE!' and change is that new OW'/"Iership. You will later hear
f~ ATi, and he ~ill te1' you in his own wor~5 about his philosophY of
aanag1ng and answe~ questions that y~u have. let me say that what we now
~ave t! I new style of management. We have an owner who is a nands-on
type of Ilinlger who is at the filcilU)' dail". This differs from the
prt!'\'iDIJS ibsentee typt of ... nagoNent that \lias Ute style of t ... e previous
atI«Ier' •
In addition, this ~er ~as hi~ed 1 manager that is c~~able of running a
club, and is also capable of 1nterfacin9 witn the city personnel and w1th
the neighborhood. One of tne thing. we would like to do i. to e.tabli.h
open coo.vnicatlon betweeo this .. nager and th. neighborhood such that if
there is a problea, there is a telephone number and there is I face and a
person that will COle and try tQ ~tlp sc1ve the situation in assisting the
pollee in that reg.rd, also.
The ~hasis here is to offer a high quality club, one that does not
iapact tne city or tne neighboroood. Th. owners are fully •• are that this
use penalt i. in jeopardy. In the 1.,t t.o months, they have begun to
lnstitute a n~r of different changes, including cha~Qing the name of
the ciub, and t~e type of music has changed to more of a Latin jazz. Th1s
is attracting, it appears, a slfghtly older crowd. They ~re now r!quiring
a cover c.harge and a dress code. Again, ttlis attracts a 51 ightly older
crowd, hopefully, a les$ ramb~nctio~s crowd. The days and ho~rs of tne
club .ilre somewhat fTI contention. It 15 ay understinding that the club
really never closed. I alluded to that in a letter that I wrote ~arlier
in the ye~r, that tttey ~ere considering closin9 for some remode11ing.
That actually never occurred. T~ey did close an Christ.as Eve, and they
are now currently closed Monday nights and Thursday nights.
The club closes its doors at 1:30 a.m~ now. They no lQnger offer dr1nK
specials or Happy Hour prices. This is an It tempt to reduce the amount of
.leoOol and .100 to not entice the type of crGWd that lik.s those types of
events, comes e~rl~, stays l.t~, to get s~ec\il alco~olic drinks at
special prices. They have, as mentioned. hired uniformed security
guards. These guard. patrol the site and they also patrol the
neighborhood. ~art of their respcnsibillty is to regulate tne traffic and
coordinate parking and pedestrian activities on the site and in the
neighborhood. As an asidet I b211eve t~ere is a club in this town called
The edge that had some similar prDblems_ They instituted i sec~rity
guard, ind that see.ed to be effective with one of t~eir problems. Sn we
afe hopeful that this ~ill help provide some coordination on the site and
In the neighborhood.
lhe speaker syste. has been reduced inside the club in an attempt to
reduce the sound. Doors, is well, have been insulated_ The exterior of
the bY1lding is scheduled to be painted. The grounds have been cleaned
up. ,"d a da11y litter patrol has beer. installed. not only on the site b~t
i~ the neighborhood. The establishment is now trying to serve free coffee
for anyone at one O'ClOCk in an attempt to slow down t~e alcohol flow and
get SOle caffee into people. In addition, patrons are nQ longer allowed
inside the club after one o/tl~tk, so if you ire not i~, you can't come in
lite. Notices are ~ow bein~ passed out to patrons, and J would like to
provide your staff with a copy of it. Basically, it is asking the patrons
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to acknowledge that there hiS been i problem , and to help in solvlnq that
problem. They do make announcements tnrough the loud speaker also.
Agai~, these aeasur~s I have ~ntioned are just i starting point. The new
managEDent would very .uch like to meet with the neighbors to hear
directly from thea their additi~nal concerns ;~d what measures and
illProvements they -lIIOul.s like to s~e imp1e1Mnted. 'lie are open to
suggestfo~s from your commission and from your staff. We would like to
have the ~pportunity to show that the new owner. the new management, i$
sincerely interested in operating a Migh Quality club that is conslstent
~1th its use permit (I know we are going to Mive to settle a f£~ issue~ on
that), is a good neighbor and does not negatiwely impact the community.
With all Df that said, 1 wou1d like to suggest I solution or proposition.
That would be that at tile cO!'lclus1on of tonight's ~earing:, perhaps we
contin~~ thi$ iteR to the first meeting l" April or ~en~~er your c~lend~~
allows. T~e purpose of this would be to allow ar. opportunity for the
neighbors and t~e owner to .eet, to get acqu.inted, to hold th.t kind of a
resource sessiDn, and then ~ke ~dd;tional changes and imprcvements to the
club to conti"~e tn estahlish what we feel we have begun to establish.
that is, a good track record. The". fi~ally to d~nstrate that it ca~ be
run in an approp~iate manner~ J know there is concern by members of the
ne1ghborhood that tnis process ~as taken a long time to get to tnis pOint,
50 ~ 5~gqe$t10n to continue t~e .. tter would allow the process to stay
right where it is, that i~, yOY WGuld not be moving this into allowing the
permit to continue and t~en having to start the revocation precess all
over again. We could stay right 1n t~is process. If we are back before
you in Apri1 or whatever d~te that would be, if we have not established
ourselves as a 900d neighbor. and do not have a good track record. then
yau are free to act right on to the City Council, whic~ 1 understand is
the process.
So it 15 our sincere intent to be back before the commission in April or
wheneve~ with the $up?Qrt, hopefully, of the ne'9hborhood, if that is
poSSible, i~d to provide an additi~na1 good tract record. T~at concludes
-1 ~rks. I ~ happ~ to answer any questions. I do not ~ave a real
strong history of this, beeause I am o"'y recently involved, but I will do
what I can.
Cgmmis5ipner Carrascn: Mr. Coats, in your ietter dated December 17, 1993.
couid yo~ explain your recoamendation No.4 Which talks about the eight
speakers tnat were eliminated and the sound board that has been l~c~ted
,.ay fr~ the stage. It goes on to Sjy that this enables the house to
-anage the ausic, rather t~an the musicians.
Mr Cgats: The toncept there was to reduce. in totality, tMe n~er of
speakers in the sound system and to take the sound board whic~ regulates
the different instruments a"d the velocity. the bass, the tempo, whatever,
and move it back away from the stage and hire someone to run tMat
equipment.
Commissjoner Carrasco: In other words~ in previous cases~ tke musitians
operated the ~sic level?
Hrt Coats: Typically, that is the way it works. In ~ experience~ a
roady often runs tnat eqUipment. and Mis job is to ~ke the band sound
good. Most musici.ns 1 know like to play lOUd.
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CQ!ljsslP"tr Carr,sco: It was not the intent to el~minat! the musicians?
Mr. Coats: My understanding is that 1t was an Ittempt to ha~e the no~se
cDnt""1 the teapo and tne magnitude of the ~.Ic.
CQII1ssiontr Carrasco: And the musicians would ~till remain?
Mr. CQats: 'ies.
CQlMlssjoner CarrascQ: Were you aware of the letter that the cit} se~t
IOU from ~Ich Cabrera (Ordinance Compllan,. Inspe,tDr; that describes the
use perMit as net permitting l;Ye ~slc?
Mr. CpitS: Yes, 1 am aware of that letter.
Commissioner [,rrascQ: Was it on thE adv1ce of your attorney that you
d~cided that the musicians (ould continue on?
Mr~ Cg.ts: I have net made that decls1or. at all. As a land use planner,
there are land use issu~s and th~~e are legal fssues. My pOSition would
be to argu~ tnat issue out here, and if your ~o.mission decid~s that the
penait really does not allow live ~$1c, then the applicant has two
,hoices. One 15 to cease the live m~sic, and the other is to lose his
license. "y recommendation, as a planner, wou1d be to cease the live
ausic, and co.e bac~ befnre yo~ and apply for an lppl~catfon t~ ~nd his
penalt to ha.e 11.0 music. You WDuld ~.v. a .hDle other public ' •• riog
and go at It (no. there afresh.
Cpamissioner Qiakian: Jim, have you opened othe! tl~b$ in other pl.te$?
f1!r. C04ts: No.
Cpapissiontr Qiakian: So this ~oul~ be a first.
Mr. Coats: I am not ope~ing t~e club. 1 ~aye repr!sented other clubs.
haye had experience wit" restaurants and ~us1cal estlb'is~nts in ~
experienc~, yes.
Commissipner Qiakfan: What I am trying to get at here is, why would you
want to step into this $ituat~Dn? You could apply for a use permit and
start up i club s~ere.
Mr~ Coats: Did I miss SOMething? 1 ha~e been retained by the owner to
Iss;st ~i~ in this process. [have no interest In the club.
C9B!1ujllner Oiakiln: Right. Why would the ,Person wnom you are
representing: want to buy 1ntD ill situation 1 ih this, as opposed to j!Jst
applying for a use pe~it and openip9 up a cl~b somewhere?
Nr, Coats: Trolt is a question I cannot answer. ~ou would have to ask
Arl, who will speak right after me.
CQlmiss10ner Glazier: You are an employee af the old owner, PQt of the
new, proposed owner. Is tne new .anager here t~is e~~n1ng?
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Mr. Cgats: The new ~er and ~nager are here. I am actually being
r!tafned by t~e new manager and o~n~r.
CQI!is$Jgoer "azler: I w~uld be interested t~ ~ear. since you are an
outside consultant, what tne new manager and owner's plans are ~is-a·vis
SOle of these recommendations, specificaliy, what their schedule is for
i.pl.mentlng .11 18 of t~ese.
Mr. Coat,: I do oot ~.ve those 18 In front of me.
kQllissjoner Glazier: They are frGm your letter.
Mr. Coats: Okay. I went through a majority of t~ose, I think, in my
presentation.
Commissioner G,azier: I would like to hear ~hat the manager's expertise
;s in running clubs of tnis sort. One of the problems you nave identified
is that the prewious ~anagement did not have the ability to control its
patrons and thereby. it led t~ the problem of the health, safety and
welfare of the '~n}ty. I would like to ~nderstand what experience this
new 8tnlger brings with him that will allow him to control patrons, and I
would like t. hear hi. talk about ~i. plans.
Mr. Coats: Okay. If there are no other questions, ] will introduce Ari.
Hargutune Aua"essja~, 3901 [1 Camino Real. Pale Alto: Good evening,
chairperson and commissioners. My name is ATi Auanessian. I am the
brother of tbe ~~-owner, Harry AUQnessian~ r have had experience of 30
years 'n restaurants, hotels and nightclub operation. ] ~ a graduate of
the hntel ~nd restaurant &ana9eaent schoo' and have operated ~nJ
nightclubs. Currently. [ ~ one of the owners in San Jose, and one of the
big pra.oters ther~. 1 do concerts at the Convention Center, where there
are on1y two promoters that are allowed to do that. [nappp.n to be one of
th... I have crowds there of 10,000 to 15,000 people. Since }989 When
the Convent~on Center oyened Up, I have demonstrated tG them that I Kn~
how to control crowds a~ have i decent operation that brings in good
reyen~es for the city, as well as protecting the safety of the public~
Therefore, the city has recognized qe as one of tne promoters there. I do
own a nigbtclub there in San Jose called Saribi, wh'ich plays thE latin
jazz .usic and is pretty much the same type. It is ~ smaller operatton.
is well as this on~:' [t is closer to adjacent neigh~rs who live there.
~self and .Y brother, we have two different philosophies on life~ He
owns lots of nightclubs, and he is an absentee manager~ He is present at
..... He basically get ... nager. to do the job for him. If they do not
do !t, he fires theR and gets somebody else. Somehow, we are different in
this operation. I enjoy what r am doing, &nd ] like to be where I am. [
like to see what happens; I like to see the results. It was s~here
around October when my brother told me tnat he was having problems with
Palo Alto, and wa, there anything I could do to help him. He said h.
doesn't ~Ive tl.e to go there. He had some managers, sa.e partners. who
had .i ... naged the place. I told him that I dido·t know if I really
wanted t. d. that, but I told him I .ould take a look at it. If it is
good, ] will go into it. Perhaps maybe if ne is willing, .~d he is not
gOi"g to be toere, I said, this problem Is not going to go away. If they
want ~ to stay there and do it, I will maKe a proposal to buy the piace.
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After ! was tnere fQ~ a couple of week~, I kind of cased the joint, as
tney say, J looktd around tne neighborhood to see whit the problems were,
and I tried to find 0 ;olutlon for myself where J can be neighborly I.d
conduct a proper business. Tne problems that we have here in the staff
report, I lOQk .t those complaints, violations, whatever, and I try to
iddress each and everyone and tackle them and see haw I can cvercome the
problems. The probl~s we have here, one of th~ ;s parking. and loud
BUSic is another~ also lack of security, lack of ma~agement contr~l,
littering I. another. If we go back for the little ti~ I h.ve been
there, three months, If you look at It, .. st of these probl .. , have been
taken core vf. We don't have litter around the parking lot or in the
ne1ghborhoOO" al1.)'1ItOre. I have instructed III.)' mana-ger, Rudy, to c.lean Ollr
premises, around the premises, 1~ the streets. not only where we are
located but .11 oround the neighborhood dii1y. ~e,.e ire operating, we
clean it hourly. So after we leave the place, it is clean. If we come
back tne next day and ~ find S~ litt~r there, paper cups, etc., I don't
want tc point i finger at where they come from. as tnat is not tne fssue
here. My problem is tc clean it so that it is not there, and lIle do th:is.
HOlse was another one that we took car! of. As far as the amount of sound
going out of the c1 UD, \lie took care of it. There were too many spealers t
It was like I concert hall. I eliminated it to a smaller amount of
speakers, and smaller speakers so that tne sound would not go as fir as it
used to go. Also, we have put fnsulatior. around t~e doors because there
was I little crack where tne sound was leaking out. We ~ave closed that
off so t~at the sound is not '5 audible outside is it was. Rignt now, it
is ~ery, very low key.
I think t~e question Commissfoner Carrasco asked about how we contro1 the
sound~ the ~s1c1ans have the sound board in front of them. They like to
h.ar themselv •• , and i' they start playing and get. little Invo1v~ in
their ausic, they hav~ a tendency to cran~ up the volume. So we took thE
.. ster control to the OJ booth, and if they get i littl. bit out of hand,
we brfng them down, £0 the sou~d leve1 1$ lower.
As for the question, wh1 do ] want to buy this? Number one, I think it fs
a very nice place. It is a pretty place. ind it (ould work to turn this
around for the c~untty and for ~yself and for the benefit of everybody,
ritner than just closing another building and havlng it boarded up and
people throwing rocks at it and painting grifflti. I do not operate the
woy other people do. My type of operation I, that I don't want to make
.aney off the people getting drunk. We have put in a cover charge. I
wouid rather have a person come in and pay IS to have one drink and tnen
go home and I get $10 from the person this way. rather thin having thea
ca.e in for free and get fiye drinks for S10, and I have notning but a
drunk putting him out onto the street. So thit is what we do.
My records for the past two Dr tnree -anths, if we go back to the Police
Departaent, I am not sure if J am right or wron99 but I think] have done
a better job than previously. I naye lowered the anount of incidents that
have been nappening tnere. We have two types of stcurity. We have
uniforaed security people who are IDOnitaring the tlut.side, inc' uding the
All American parking lot and along Ventura Str~et, a~d a150 our parKing
lot. When a person COMeS int~ our parking lot, they 9U~d~ them. They
tell tn~ where to go and how to park, and r.ot to park en the residentia1
streets. Also, they give them a little speech to ba~e respect for the
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neighbors, like not slammi~ their tar doors and not to ~lay loud music.
So it seems to .e it is effective.
We close the operation It on@ o'clock and we d~ not allow ~nybody to come
in after that, and at one o'clock we start ser~1ng free coffee to
everyone. We try to bring down the DOad of the club so that people rela~
a little bit and have some coffee. People start going out a few at a
tiae. &nd we give tha l~st ~;11 at 1:30 O~ 2 o'clock, instead of turning
everybody loose into tke street all at once. We let the people go out
slowly. Our exits ire ~ow towa~ the parking lot ratner tban out front.
The reason for that is that as th~ people come from tne side door into the
pirking lot, they are it I cross ~ilk. if they have their cars parked
across the street, then are not jay walking. They are just walking
straight where the crosswalk is. We nave tried tkis a few times, and it
see~ to be working. Our security guards direct people to the c~sswllk
so they won't be jay w.lklng.
As far as hUman kaste and all those things are cQnce~ed, ] think those
are all being taken care of. Th~te was lack of manlgement, but I ~ave a
.anagesent team co"sisting of R~dy Backa and Mrs. Bac~a wh~ ire both
directors and officers of the corporation. the new corporation, Crystal
Cafe, Inc. I am thE ~resldent and stockholder, and Mr. Backa and Mrs.
Backa are tn~re. Mr. Batka is the ~ice president and Mrs. Sacka is tne
secretary-treasurer. W~ meet regularly and we talk about how .e are going
to tackle these proble.s. We have job descriptions for employees, and we
trafn them regularly at each and every level. As far as the hartenders.
the waitresses, the door people, the $ec~rity guards, we are on top of
that at .11 t;mes. We just don't talk to them once and hope they get ;t.
We do it all the tine. To ~$I ~anagement control of the e.ployees is just
like a cancer. You can't let it qo. You have to stay on top of it t~
cure it. Wheneyer there is drinking, there are probleas. This is an
issue t~at it is here and we have to do the best we can. The WlY [ think
the best way we can is to charge I~r!, have cover charges, eliminite thE
drunks froa coming in ~nd ~ave better control~ We should be able to
notfee if i guy is intoxfcattd and not serve ~lrn any drinks, or if they
COle i" intoxicated, not to let thea in.
We control our bathrooms, because that is basically where the drug
problees ar'!. We have security bouncers going 'n there every fifteen
~inutes to see if eV2rything i$ okay. I am not a person who will tolerate
any drugs Dn ay premises. r hav~ spoken with Captain Merson and have told
hi. that if I do see anything like this happening on .y turf, I will let
hf. know, regardless of the consequences. tither it is i bad .. rk against
~ ~r I good one, [ don't know, but ) ~ going to do this~
We can take care of the prable.s th~t we have ou~selyes, wheth~r it is La
Cumbre or the Crystal C,fE. I can do the best thhg I can for the cafe.
Outside of that, 1 ~aye nO control. [can eliminate people coming in
drunk, trying the best we can~ We do like to .ark with our neighbors. I
have met with John Benza and had a l~ngthy conyersati~~ with him. When we
C~ out of the premises, in the five ~inutes we were Duts1de. this person
came from the direction of the aotel , but he was drunk, came rlght by us
and jay wal.ed across [1 Camino. I brought it to his attention that we
were not open, were not operating, a~ these things are here. The drunks
ire ~ere, but not necessarily our problem.
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We hive to l1ve realistically. What;~ happen1n9 here, what we are doing,
is that the right dire<:t;on to go in or not? 1 feel I should r.ot be
punishe<! for what happened in tile p.st with past operators. Thls Hst of
.11 the problems that are here, tl\ey are not m) probl.... My expertise,
~ Pist experlence, the two or three mont~s that r ha~e been here, I t~ink
that should speak for itself. This is .y record. I am going to be doing
other thinas there. fn tne two·and·,·h,lf month~ r have heen t~ere, I
have hid catered ChristMas parties, Silicon Valley. and we just hid a
Y.l.ntine party for Piati Re.taurants. They had 125 people there Monday.
They had elect .. to come here and have a dance, etc. This is the type of
things we are going to be promoting, not Just. nightclub. We would Ii.,
to start .erving in an outdoor caf, on El Camino in the parking lot, if
the Planning Department will .llow it. W. would put out s ... shade tre.s
to make !t look like • little garden. Aa I boring you?
Cha1 rperson Schmidt; The hOlJr is getting hte, and we probably nave .some
questions.
Mr. Auaness;,n; I will quit at this point. I ~ave said what r was goir.g
to say. BaSically, all the problems you have o~tlined her! •• y last word
Is th.t I have tackled .11 of them, and I think I h.ve to'en care of .11
of theM. If JOU see that what [ ~a~e dDne here ts good enough, then
please allow ourselves, B~ manageeent tea~, to go on and c~nduct the
bUSiness. You can (all us at any time~ As Mr. Weaver said, you have the
hammer~ rf we don't do well, ~ou can throw ~s o~t, but at le~st, give us
the chance to prove ourselves and give us the chance to conduct the
business and save our investment. One of the reasons ] am buying this is
because the price Is r1gnt. Tnis is an unfortunate situation for the
ex-owners, but 1 feel it is a good Situation for me.
Commjss'gner Carra$Go: Since you have taken over the operation, do y~
have live Ilusic?
Mr. Ayanes:;1an: hs, [dQ~ I think i1've music versus the recorded music,
I WDuld brfng thi~ one thtng to your attention. We haye a lot more
control over the live music th~n we do with the recorded ~sic. Live
MUSic, you can choese the band, and tne band has only one style, and tney
play what yOy war.t~ With recorded ~sic, the dis~ jockey hiS ~is own
taste, and you canlt police bim. They play the records that they w3nt.
Peop1e will come in witf'l the records they want to play, and it attt'icts
younger people for the recorded .ustc t~an It does for a l!ve band. The
lfve band has a tendency to bring in older ~eople, at least in th~ Latin
... rket.
CQ!!lss1oner Schink: I have three questions, and hopefully. you can
answer them very briefly~ What ho~rs do you serve food?
Mr. Auane$sfan: We serve food from 8:30 p.~. to 1:30 a.m.
COAn!jssloner Schink.: W"nat are your hours Cit' operation?
Mr~ Auant$s1an: 8:30 p.m. to 1:30 a.m~
Commissioner Scnink: And the hours of live music?
~r. Ayanes~jJn: 8;30 p.m. to 1:30 a.R. every night of the week that we
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C9'li$z'pnrr §la 7 1er: If the yse permit Is withdrawn, are you still
~1red tD buy t~! bus1ness, according to the terms of the agreement with
yo"r brothe;"?
Mr. AuaDfssfan: Yes. We signed a~ agreewent. The papers that you might
•• nt to see 1 to.k to the Oepartmont of Alcoholic Beverage Control. Part
of the corporate papers were not available, however, ~ ~aye al~eidy filed
with the intent of transfer of the C~Ot Sant~ Clara. T~e p~rchase
igree.ent has already been signed and notlr;zed by the ex-owners, .Y
brother, and it is .11 being transferred from L'Rilz to lhe Cryst.l C,fe.
The ex·moners are no party to this. They are not stockholders and they
are no party to t~is n~ trlnsattfon.
~joner Glazjer: s~ what you are saying to ~ ts~ you stand tD lose
a SUbstantial a.aunt of money if t~1s is revoked.
Mr. AUip..ssian: Yes~ J have already made t~is agreement.
CQII1s$ipner 8ee'ham~ How long do you serve alcohoJ? Is it also until
1:30 •.•. 1
Mr. Agan.ssfan: We s~rve alcobol until 1:30, yes. We don't give last
cil15~ We do~jt believe in last calls. We just give a coffee time
instead~ At one o'c1ock~ we tell them it is coffee time, and we 5erv~
free coffee and inv~te everybody to have so~ coffee at one o'clock.
CQlli$sjgncr Beecham: How much alco~ol do you serve between 1;00 and
1:30?
Mr. Auanessian: Very little. Maybe SO drinks.
COII!scjpner Betcham: So if there were a li.it placed to clvse the bar it
one o'clock, that would not have .uch impact on your operation, I would
think?
Mr. Ayanesshn: Not very Bluch. We sell about SO drirlks.
epm.is~ioner ggecharu: On th! noi$e~ have you had & noise cons~ltant C~
in to asSist in determining ~IOW to reduce the noise outside?
Mr. Auan 2ss fan: ] haven't, but fro. ~y own experien~e, I have been in the
BUsic business and have worked with sound people long enoug~ that] know
what the problems are and] can take care of t~em. I believe I nave
already taken care of tho.. B"t 1 wo"ld be acre than happy to bring in a
sound consul tInt to do it.
C_hsjgner Beecham: C!'1 picking up litter~ how far arDund yo~:r fatllity
do yO" go to pick "P litter?
Mr. Avanessjan: We go as far as Jack in the Box and ~e go down Yent~ra
Avenue. We also go across the street, and W~ do t~e All ~rjcan Market,
and all along that stretch.
Comm1ss1qn!r Beecham: OQ you do thfs after yo~r fatil1ty c10ses at night?
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Mr. AUine551an: We do it Ifter the facility clos!s it night aro~nd o~r
premises. T~e next day. we do everything 1~ the streets. We don't want
to have the esplQyees th~re at t~o o~clock cleaning, but thsy come in the
n •• t d,y in t~. daytiMe and do it.
Commissipner $chink: How many patrons do you typicallY serve in an
evening on I week night, and how many O~ a .eekend?
~r Au.nessjan: Typicilly, on a week night, 200. and abo~t 250 to 300 on
Fridays and a little bit .. ro, 350 to 400 on Siturdays.
Commissioner $ch1nk: How do your gross sales break down ~n a week night?
What are your gross sales, and how ~o they break duwn bet~en food and
.1 callol?
Mr, Autnessian: We operate about 40 percent alcohol, and the rest is fro.
otber sources, such as coysr charges, food, that type Df thing.
Commissioner $chink: So 40 percent cf your sales is alcohol?
Mr. Auang$$jan: 35 to 40 percent.
Commissioner $chink: Do yo~ mind if I isk what your gross is weekly?
Mr. Auaness1an: At this tiae, W! gros5 close t~ $15,000 a ~~e~.
CQRl1s$1onet $chink: And how does t~&t break dawn between week nights and
weekends?
Met A4lness1an: Roughly. we fig~re about $10 to $12 per pers~n ~ross that
we take. We e~.rge $5 to come in, ind t~ey spend $2 Dr $3 fDr food ind
they spend about $5 on drinks.
CQ!l1ssjoner Sc~jnk: So your annual gross Is about S150,Oor!
Mr Ayanessfan: I have only been there two-and-I-half montbs~ And is 1
said, [ am also planning on doir.g otber things, introducing lunches and
dinners and the o~tside patiO dining. It is goi~g to be very different
fta. 'dhat is there right (lOW. We are in a transition period right now.
Those fi9ures cannot really be 9uidelines fer whit is going to hippen
tOllOrrow.
CQllissjoner Ofaklln: Regardin; on-site parking, how much do you have?
Mr. Ayane$sjan~ I haye not rea1'y counted, but I believe it is s~ere
around 100 cars,
CpmmJss;oner Ojakian: I did not notic! It in the staff report. How about
the security guards? Are t~ey there from 8:30 to 1:30?
Mr. AuanessjiC: T~ey come in a little later~ Our in-ho~se security
gUirdS come in at 8:30, and the unifonood guards come in about 9:30. That
I. when the .. sic starts. They basically work on the outside. They work
in the parkfng lott the premises and th! streets. T~ey are not inside.
We also haye two patrol cars thit they hive to pitrol around t~e .rea so
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they (a~ gtt everywhere faster than just wal~ing.
ComMissioner Ojak;an: How ~ny guards inside the club?
Mr. Allanesst.n: Three.
C9mmi$$;Dn~iln: And how .ani outside?
"r. Ayanessian: Five.
CQlmjssioner Qiak1an! That 1ncludes the people wna ire driving the cars?
Mr. Auanessian: Yes.
Cpmmissioner Cassel: Approximately ~ow .any people are in t~e site on a
weekend at one o'clock in the MOrning?
Mr. Auanessian: Generally. you .ight say about 50 to 6~ percent of the
people. depending upon Ue night.
Commissioner Cassel: So you have about J50 people there at one a1clock in
the aornirtg"~
Mr. AU3ness~; On the weekends.
Cgemis$jpner Bttcham: 00 you have any fonmal agreement with the All
A.er1can regarding parking?
ftr. Aqanessjin! No, [don't. [have not had any problem with them. They
have ftot raised lny issues. We clean their parkfng lot, and we do not
have any preble. with thea. T~ey ha¥en't said to me. don't do it.
Chairpersqn Schmtdt: Do you expect an~ seasDnality te the crowds there?
You have been operat1ng over Chri$tmas and January. Those aight be
quieter ti.es. Would you expect larger crowds in the su..ertime?
Mr. Auanessian: No, J don't expect larger crowds ift the sUMm2rtiDe.
t~1nk the crowd will be about the same. We might see crowds cooing in
liter. [n the summertime, people don't 9G out until 1t gets dark. Nine
or ten o'clock is when they st,art ca.ing In. They ltay want to stay later,
but our operation is not 90ing tQ change. We aTe g~ing to stop the sale
of 11co~1 at one o'clock and try to get the people out, as few is
possible at a t1~, so we don't have I big BaSS of people coaing out. I
don't see t~at muc~ difference betweea Su.meT and now. Obviousl~, there
is some difference, because in the s~rtime, people probably are going
to want to hang around a little more tha~ i~ th~ wintertime. I have to
take ~asure$ to have control ower that.
ChaitptrsoQ $ch-idt: On I busy weekend pvening, do people stand outside
in groups? If tnere aTe 4DO people inside, are there SO or lOa people
Dutside It a 9f~en time? 00 they go outside during band or .usic breaks?
Mr. Auanesslan: No, we do not kave in-and·out prf~ileges. Once they co.e
, •• t~at is it. If they go out. they have t. pay to c ... back in. In the
past. that was the practice there, but that is n~ longer the case. If
they hilve to lUice uergellCY calls, we provide telephones for theIR, since
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their ~S!. We have I strict dreis code, and we do not have people han9fng
around outside.
'ommis$iqner G1jlier: What:$ the rated capatity of your facility?
Mr. Auanessian: I believe that for dining , it is about 200. For the
niihtclub operation, the fire department .easures that as 15 sQuar~ feet
per person If they are Sitting. and 1-1/2 square f.et of the empty spa,e.
1f there fs a danca floor. I have not quite measured it to see what that
figure is, but I believe is should be somewhere around SOO.
Cgpmiss10ntr $chink: Vou gave ee your sales figures while you a~
operating the bUsiness. Can you tel1 me what the 5Ales figures were for
last year?
Mr. ANanesstln: Considerably bigher. The~ were about Qne-and-z-half
tiDeS is much. T~ey were doing close to Sl5 f OOO pet week, and we are
doing about $15.000 ......
COlliss1oner $chinK: You ire buying the business. Yo~ ~st have a good
Idea. Old they do $1.lOO.OOO In 5.les?
Mr. Auane$$)an: That i! p~ob~bly what they wey~ doing.
Commissjoner $chink; And how is that broken down between food ind
alcohol?
Mr· AuJnessian: I don't know. 1 didn't get those fi9ures~ 1 just yot
ge"eral~y what their income was.
'QII1ss1pner Scnink; You are purc~asing the ~siness, and )OU didn't look
at the U18S?
Mr. AU'nessian: No. because what the other people did. ! am not .11 that
interested In. I am going to do -.y own things. If they made money just
selling alcohol. tbat doesn't .ean that J have to do the same thing. I
feel there are other •• ys of •• rni09 money for the club. sellin9 food and
having doer chaTges.
CQlmjssjongr Schink: r understand. S~ you then did not look it the
figures and Ire not ,ware of what the prewious saTes were.
Mr. Ayane}si)n: No. As 1 said, 1 am not i~terested in their operation.
I would like to introduce the other directors of the corporation.
Mr. Rudy Backa is the manager who is there every d~t seven days a week,
.are than ten hours a day.
Cbajrperson Schmidt: Is there anything you want to add? ihe hour Is
Quite late.
8[. Auangssian: What r would like to add at this tlme is to please not
judge .. by what has happened in lhe past. My operation is quite
different fro. what It was in the past, I am 901n9 I" a different
direction, I a. sincere j and 1 have a good team that is COmMitted to work
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with .e~ and [ wo~'d like to ask you to 9i~~ me the chan,~ to ga eh!ad.
Jobn Benzl, 3745 La Selva Drive. Palo Alto: I dG have the privilege ~f
saying Good Morn:ng, unfortunatel)~ d~n/t kno~ if you are I! confused
about this is I am as to who actually owns the ptemis~s at t~fs current
point in ti~. It $o~nds like Donis client is the actual owner. It
appears that Oon~s client, Harry, 15 the current owner ~f this, and
therefare, in ~ mind, the comments or t~sti~~y of Art are reall1 out of
order i~ the sense that he is not the current owner. His paperworx has
not been filed sufficiently to reflect the tranifer of this property, but
that being said and all the suspicious ~ature of that said trinsfer, I
~ope you are Questioning t~e credibility of such I transaction, as 1
~rsonill, a., n~ mo~e than 1 was on Sit~rdlY ~hen I met them.
Clearly~ Don denies any accountabi1itj or responsibility from the pri~r
owner Issoc~lted with the said proble.s, whitn as you can tell, infuriites
me to no end. Ar~. on the other hand, is .ill1ng to acknowledge ill cf
the possible problems. as reported in the documentatiDn, and is willingly
taking actions to correct said proble~s. So it really concerns me.
Honetheles!, ] did come wit~ a set of prepared t~nts t~ hopef~ily
expedite R,r cOUlDE'nts. I want to start by saying that despite the' issuts
tnat we are here tonight to discuss, 8arr~n Park residential properties
cont~~~e to be in high demand~ Our p1ctoresque neighborhood is ideal for
raising f&milies. Our parts and recreation facilities are second to none
in the ca..untty, and property ~alues continue to rise. H~ renovation
and Major (onstruction is continuing to go strong in Barron Park. Our
nei9~borhood association, the Barron Park Association, and a sister
organilatiQn~ the Ventura Neighborhood Association, ~epresent well over
] ,.cQQ (ulilies and is a posithe tnfl uence not only in Barrorl Park biJt
throughout the City of Palo Alto. 1 UIOW. first hand. because J am one of
Barren Park's newest owners. It took ~ six months to find t~1s house.
six months of loc~ing in Pale Alto, and I founrl it i~ Barron Park. 1 want
to thank you for keepIng this a good city. and I hope you do what is right
here tonight. Unfort~nately, the business at hand tonight is not a
pleasant ane, and it does require your interattlon to solve this.
Shortly after moving here. I became ac~tely aware of the prDblems
emanating frOG the La Cumbre bar. and let's call it that. r don't accept
·restauTint-as a tit1e for it. J got involved quickly and hu~g in
t~ere. Hiving MOved from the New York area, I know first nand that
problems, left unchecxed, fester. and you end up beyond the ability to
control them. We have seen that in the last year. Tne police st~tistic5
support that. If this goes unchec<ed. it .ill eventu,11y drain the life
blood of the cosaonity, That life blood is the atmospheriC appeal for
peoplt like ~ whD ~ant to move ir. there. ~y involvement with tne B~rro"
Park Association and the Palo Alto Po, ice Department is two·fold. first,
1 part1c'pated ~n two ridealon9s, and tin pers~nally testify that 1 saw
two instances emanating from La Cumbre whic~ re$uited in fights. We co~ld
look up the dates if we need to. In addition to that, some of my efforts
have led to tne formation of what we call the Community and Bcsiness
Relations tOimittee of the Barron Park Associat~on. This is a new
Drgin~zation started in January of this year. As chainma~ willing to
stand up and tak. t~.t positIon. my objective. are three-fold. One is to
understand. document and ca.mun~cate 1ss~es and concerns resulting from
business opentions illong E1 Camino Rea' in Barron Park. typically from
around Page Mill Road to Arastr.dero Road, Secondly. I seek to oork oith
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loca' busir'lesses to resolve the issues while fostering go~ will. I can
report s~ccesses in that area. f~nal1y, our long-term goal is to develop
partnershipi with you, the government agencies, ~Y~inesses and deve10pers
to revitalize [1 Carnino Real with businesses. and tnis is important. t~at
Ire Co=pilible and complementillry with the residential com."IIur.ity.
Of particular concerr. to me is ~ SOO-f~t rectangle. Witkin this
rectangle, there are t~o bars, one of ~it~ is La Combre, two liquor
stores 50 feet from one anot~er, two fast food restaurants and three
,ub,idlz<d motel, with day rates below $35. When you combine .11 that
5t~ff in SOO rectanq~lar feet, j am surprised 1 moved here, to be honest
with you. I had not thought it ~as a ~roblem. J, like many of you,
probabl, drive past tnat section every day. and I had n~ idea. The
co.binatlcn of these b~s1ne$ses in sucn 'lose proximity to another has
cul.fnated in i year of unprecedented, and J repeat, u~precedented crime.
During the period of Augu,t, 1992 through August, 1993, I ~ill tell you
statistics other tkan Mr. Tenenbaum has represented~ These stitfstfcs
cone from tho Pllo Alto Police Department, wnom Mark himself has provi1ed
through JonI') Joynt of the Barl"D!l Park Association. mere has been a
record of 263 calls in that ~OO-foot roctangl.. Only one of those is La
Cusbre. I am not attributing all 263 calls for service to that one
est.blishment. We do ha" the detailed breakout of th.t. 1 would raise a
question to you all for pondering. What is the cost~ per call, to ttle
City of Palo Alto for service? ~at would be the effect of that? I ..
going to read you i few ~re statistics on those calls. I know it is
l.te. 26 ~rcent of those 260 calls 1"vo'~ed assault Dr battery, .s
re90rted by t~e police categorization of problems. 24 percent involved
large groups or unruly conduct. [_ill ~dm'tt as Mr. Te~enbaum stated in
the hearing, that I cannot attribute everyone of these e.l1. to the La
CUMbra Restauraf1t. I am not, in this instance, implying Qr ins1nuatlrlg
th.t all these emanated frOR there. But there is • real problem in this
rectangle. One of the aijor contributors ~s La Cumbre. 20 percent of the
calls involved alcohol or drug-related charges. Here is a very i~ortant
statistic that you may .ant to not., When yeu go back and think about if
you allow t~em to continue wit~ ,"estrictionL The important hctor is
that 77 percent of the 263 calls occurred after 11 p.m .• and 65 ofter 12
p... You take that 77 percent of 263 calls and multiply it by the cost
per service call for the Police Department I and you have found yourself a
whole lot of money.
Having seen t~e det1ril, and I am not sure why Don Mas not, I can assure
this board that these are not the a~tions nor the be~avior of local
reSidents. My wife and] do not behave liKe this. I would suspect ttl at
~ny of my peers ind many of you peer residents do not behave like t~is.
As tbe off1c1a1 staff report states, many of these problems were the
direct result gf mismanagBment. The proposed new owner acknowledges
that~ His ~onsultant ackn~ledges that right before you here tonight.
The prior owner's representative denies all of that. I apologize, Doni
for shouting out before about the 5ituation the night before when .e met
Harry in our cO>munity .~eti"q, but that wa. the night th,t we had the 150
peeple, with five going to the h~spital. My concern in that is of the 84
~al1s that were reported during that period of August to August, I am
surprised that wnen in September, we meet with the owner, his comment was
that he was unaware that there were problems it his club. That may be
absentee ow~ershipi ~~t that is also irresponsibility, That;s also a
reflection. What I would like to say is that I would alaost demand, I
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This transaction is a ~ery easy iyoidloce of
Based on the e~ider.ce docu~nted in tne stlff report, I believe La (umbre
repr~sents I ,leaT and present danger to the community. 1 believ2 that
the penait revocation was justlfitd, and the facts s~pport it. I belfev!
that aR1 ~ther less restrictive action ~as not .erited nor earned by the
owner or the result of the manngementls action. J Isk the board to upnold
this decfsion, recogni11Rg their fr.ability to correct the ~roblems and
sensing strong coanunit1 outer,." against this, as eVidenced by tl1e petition
tnat I trust you have seen, 148 signatures, and that was on ~ne we~k's
notice prior to the Planning Commission that we circulated that petitjon~
It is in your packets. T~e current owner of La tum~re is sel1ing th~
~usi~e$s to his brother, Ari. I will tell JOU that I ~t with Ari and
foynd him tc be a sincere, ptrsonil busin&ss .an. I think mu,h of .~at he
said tonight 15 from ~f5 heart, but I ilsc believed th~t of Harry when he
indicated in our Septe~r meeting th~t now t~at he was aware of t~e
probl em. he. ~(t,.~.1 d tak.e act f on.
I would ~~ the board not ta be distracted by this eleventh ~our tactic,
While ATl .'Y seek I different approach, these action~ come fir too late
and do not include tne Iccountability that we need here. Ali of their
proposed chan9~s are purely voluntary and ~nenforceabTe by the city.
Vhtle I wou1d like to believe that this will work, tne past year has made
Be far too cautious to trust on words alonf. Neither Harry, Arl, their
managers, thefr attarneyss their cons~ltants nor their patrons, if you
look at the details of the police records, reslde in Pilo Alto. If equity
invest.ents alone were s~fficient to prevent us from meeting ~ere tonigbt
at 12:30 in the -arning, tnen we would not be here. Equity fnvestments
alone are ~ot sufficient .ativltfon to do this, for I b~si"ess to be run
properly. 0" behalf of the 148 people who signed thaI petition_ I urge
the board to uphold the revecat i on of the permi t . Let I $ put U.e past year
beni~ us, as Ari said, ind _ork together to attract businesses tnat ire
coapatible and complementary to our neighborhood. In tkis cas!. I
honestly believe that the bird in the bosh is prob.bly better than the one
in the ha~. Yo~r support tonight will go a long _ays toward boosting the
morale of the communit, and starting us down t~e road of rejuvenating El
Camino Real and South Palo Alto. I will personally commit my efforts, my
Itrength, my emotiGns and m) passion to work with you to fix this
rectallgle, H YOli will, on El Camino Peal. One of the major cornerstones
of that rectangle 15 the La Cumbre Restaurant under its pri~t manager and
current owner~ Thank you.
CQ!!iss1Qner Glazier: As someone who is vfry close to this fssue,
obviously, it would be inter~sting to hear your perspective on some of tne
changes tnat have taken place. There has been a lot represented that has
happened since September in terms of security QUirds J changing the focus
of the cl ub, etc. As someone who 11'Jes c,lose by and is very close to
this, have you seen~ in fact, that tneS! things have tike~ place as
ca..itted? If, for whatever reason and with whatever ownership structure,
have the commitments that have bee~ ~de been lived up to?
Mr. Scnza: I have not gone down the list of 18, one by one. I did meet
wtth Arf and Jfm Weaver, the proposed new owner of the club, this past
Saturday. J did witness some of tne items that they have indicated. Tney
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have aad~ some lItDdif1ci!ticns to the ceil trig y~nti1at;on to remove possible
arg.s where sound could go through the roof out to the ~eighborhoo~. I
did w1t~ess sound boards put on the doers. They indicited~ but I had no
evld'eTice, that they ha4 relilO""ed sevenl spea1<.ers from the cl\Jb. It ; s a
beaut1f~1 facilitJ f~ a str~ctural, physical perspecti~e. ] wis~ the
prior owner had taken corrective aetlon.
Comm1SS~QDPt Glazier: Is it your belief that· since this S~ptember, the
i~ar.t on the community is less than it ~as prior to September?
Nr &gnlf: ] .ade I coup1e of C~"ts en that, and [ Ippreciat~ the
ql.lest1on .as a rettinder. I would urge you not to be nlisled by stathtks
alone relative to t~e nu~bet cf tal1s. ]f you trite back (and Mark is
very adept at doing this], if you trace back~ you ~an get those call~ not
only by date but by ti .. of day. You will see • curve that reflects the
s~rt;me. It really just got out of hand. I thin. th.t is what
prompted us to eventua11y end up here. I haven't witnessed, first hand,
since I liY~ on the other side of [1 CaRino, the changes that they have
mentioned. I will tell you th.t I otcisionally rent cars from Hertz on
Arastr.adero Road to go to aP\d fr'o frOll: the airp{lrt on business trips, and
I walt to Hertz. As far as the !id~ of the street across fr~ La tumbre,
[ would find it hard to bel I_ve that t~ey are cl •• ning up the litter
the~. That is one Df ~y other projects .ith one of the fist food
~$tlurants, to get them to expand beyond their property lines for some of
the wrappers, t~ings like that. ] think another pOint that you have
mentfon~d, and Tony VIS very adept at bringing this out, they have been
playing live music, and they continue to plan to plaJ live musfc~ despite
whatever it S~$ in th~ use permit. Pleas! don't be inti.idated against
action becluse they have been dofn9 it for a number of years or -matever.
A .iolation of th~ law remains a Yiolation of toe law. All that we need
for the liW to continue to be brOKen is for a few good people to do
nothing. Intoxication of patrons: let me just clution you, as J am s~rE
aany of you know, working w1t~ various restaurants before you, that only
ti .. and your liver gets rid Df alcohol in your body. Selling alcohol at
1:30 and then pu.ping coffee into people does not reduce intOXication.
Only time dces. ]f yo~ are cO~5idering a restriction on the sale of
a1cohol, t~e r would consider maybe aro~nd 12 p.~. Tnat a150 will
coincide with the two liquor stores atross the street that have agreed to
voluntarily mo~e their hours from 12 p.~. to i1 p.m. Tnis triangle fs of
i~ortance. It warrants looking into at a later date, pOSSibly, for an
earlier hour~ beca~se what you will find is th@t you can visibly watch
patrons depart La Cuabre, ~alk across the street~ buy the liquQr~ go to
their car, and return to t~e club. When the cl~b closeSt they 90 out to
the car~ partfcularly in tt;e summer, which is why you can't be ccnfused
with the statistics. and then they party in their cars.
The other point, a~d I apOlogize for rambling on here, is tnat if there
Ire 400 patrons, but 100 cars, t~it is one hell of a success story in c~r
pooling, and we QU9ht to advertise that. ] wll1 tell you, When I was a
l!ttle younger and J did the bar scene myself. ] usually went alone. So
we need to learn tneir secret here and st.rt ~ellin9 It to businesses,
because this is pheno.enal. One last comment, Don. I would be very
cautIous about advocating that the ABC has not be.n in there and
sanctioning. I am not sure that they are fully aware of th:e current
proceedings. I have always lived by the expression, Be careful of what
you ask for, beeau._ I hope they show up. Thank you.
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Bob Mo~O Orme. Palo Al~: Good mornin9~ Madam Chairman and
coamissioners. I am really sorry to be saying good morning. Due to the
filibustering of t~e appellants, I am forced tQ speak ~t this late hour.
I would like to touch on I few things from the perspective of someone who
15 familiar with that property for ~re than 20 years. First of all, ~
n~r of people have occ~pied that prop!rty. No occup~nt has ever been
as abtrusive and as obnox1ous and IS auch of I clear Ind present danger to
the hea1tht safety and sanctity of our comm~nitJ as ta tumbre, without a
doubt, b~ several orders of ma9nitude.
The state.ent that Mr. Te"e~baum ~ad! about l;~e music being played by
previous occupants is a cla;., an allegation, and ~as absolutely no
support in fact. As. matter of fact, in the early 1970s, that buildin9
was occupied by a poker club, a card club, similar to the Cameo Club. I
dtd nappen to go in tnere on a couple of occa~ions, and they did not have
l1Ye MU~1c. The fact that they continue to ~ave l1ye music in clear
violation of the use permit is an example of t~eir profligate ilap fn the
face af th! City of Palo Alto and our laws and our community. I think
they ought to get slapped bat.. ! toink you should lift the us. permit,
put them out of bu~iness completely, and then, let's negDtiate. What we
are being asked to d~ is the same thing the Bosnian Serbs are asking the
NATO countries to do. let's tal«, and .aybe we won~t kill anybody for a
11 tt 1 ~ .mil •.
Let's tall about a few of t~e specifics. On September 12th, ve had that
neighborhood meeting, and Mr~ Tenenbaum was there, and so were the
owners. They said they were nat aware of an~ particular problems and t~ey
d~dnJt think there was a~tbi~g going on. We didn't find Dut ~ntfl almost
ten d~$ later (of course, Captain Merson knew it at that time but we
didn't) that there had been I riot emanating f~om La Cuabre early that
.arn1ng. They denied it. And tonight, Hr. Tenenbaum again denied it. fs
he totally ignorant Q~ facts? Or does be fail to want to recognfze them.
There are only three reasons for denying t~at they have a probl~. One,
they don't want to recognize that they hav! I problem~ in which case, we
cannot possibly work with t~ea~ because how (an th~y solve a problem if
they don't know it exists or a,knowledge it~ T~e second is total
ignorance. and I don't want to work ~itn people who are that ignorant,
becau,e they cannot be cured. The third is th,t they are liars. If they
are liars~ hDw can we ha~e any faith in anything they promise ~s to do in
the future? Three strikes, baby. you're out.
I would like to cOIRent on the remarkable coincidence Df drunks who see.
to rain down from the sky with no connection to La Cumbre, but weren't
the .... before they occupied the site. [snit this a remarkable-pheTIMenon?
It is very much like the frogs that rained dawn from a cloud in the sky,
but it turns out they were ~icked ~p by a tornado. So where is the
tornado coming from that is raining t~ese drunks down on £1 Cimino rig~t
alongsfde La Cumbre? Amazing .eteorological phenomenon. Mr. Tenenbaum
would like us to believe tnat If the patrons are arrested ~utside of th!
club, that is not a problem. fn fact. it is more of a problem for the
neighborhood, because these people, who are $0 dangerous that even the
police fear th.m, are nON in t~e neighborhood where they h,ve to be
apprenended and arrested. I would rather they kept their combatants
inside t~e club and not spi11 them over ont~ the innoce~t people in the
neighborhood.
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regulitions~ If they SiY they are going to change their ~nvironment bi
what they are try1ng te do to attract to1s type or that type of crowd,
that is not enforceable. As t~ the ridiculous statement that it ;s easier
to control live mU5ic tnan recorded music, you ~aye only tbe e~ample of
our .... rvelous Dpportunitfes to cant.ral Sh~re'fne Amphitheater. The fact
tnat the ABC bas not put them out of business is reilly an indictment of
the ABC~ As everyone knows or should know, they are 9~ssly understaffed,
and therefore) the .ere fact that they d~n/t have !r!ough agents to go in.
f1~d the violations .~ich obviously occur, and put them out of business is
no credit to La Cumbr •.
The pouib1e cost to the new 'OW'i1'i!r of Ji rellC'CCltion of the us~ permit wa.s
oby~oaslJ take~ intG account when he purchased t~e property. If it
wasn't, he h a lousy blisin&:$sm4n. In any regird', that is not our
iffair. What is i~ortant to us is not to preser~~ his profit nor his
brother's profit. but it is to make sure that our community is safe and
our people are safe, and we don't have I lot of people who are either
drunk and dr1y1ng drunk or who are riotous a~ Ire creat'R9 prDblems.
When we h~ve a riot (and it was a riot) which requlres police frorn Palo
Alto, los Alt~s, Mountain View, the highway patrol and Stanford to shut
down, and that has happened more than once in tne last year plus, we don't
need thaL We have a serious, serious prob'(e!Il. Mr. Tenenbaum sa.ys we
have no problem. Strange. What is important Is the cost to the residents
ind t~e cost to the co.munity. That is t~e only cost you should be
weighing. I think tne course is quite clear, and you really onl1 have one
va.lid action, to yailx the use perait and shut them down.
As for tne reduction in activity, there are occasionally Planning
Co..ission meetings and City Council meetings last well into the .orning.
s. 1 have dr1yen by la CUSbr. around midnight, and most of t~e time the
last couple of gonths, they haYe be.n closed. If the bu1lding i. closed.
it is a little bit difficult to haye quite as .,ny police calls. [think
that Is an admirable ~ay. We should haye it closed ~re often. In
suno,tion, [ would ask that you uphold the Zoning Administrator and allow
our police officeri to do something more us!f~l and pull their permit.
Thank you.
liarh Gillmore,. 340 ventura AvemuL Palo Alto: I live just a hi' f block
down from La Cumbre. J was up there two weeks ago on Saturday night and
spoke to Dennis, one of the security g~ards, and also spoke to Rudy, who
wa$ I bit defensive at De be,nq there. I ~a~ with t~o ~t~et people, a.nd I
was walling ~ dog. It was 10:15, and tne one security guard on Venturd
had a flashlight, and he was waving cars in. But the tars that didn't
.ant to go in J"st stepped on the ga. and kept stra1ght down Ventura 'nd
went to the l1ght at the court. It .as .1aost 1n defiance to their
security guard, and I don't blame tn! poor guard. ~e can't go out into
the street and step the traffic.
The guard in front, whose name was Dennis, 1 asked hi~, wnat kind of music
was being played, and he told me it was salsa music. J said is this
trop1cal jazz. because we had gotten this letter in December. He said no,
it is salsa music~ and it was very good live music. sa why dittn't I go
in? I am Tn ~ sweats w1tn the dog on the leas~. r am wondering about
this dress code that they are talkin9 about. My dog did have his collar
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on. WhEn I asked what is the coveT charge, h! said~ well it is 55 for
Mn, but ladies are fru. So where is the cover char-ge th_t they are
inCrea.sin9 to get 1: difhrent type o.f iJ!!',nple in thert?
There were ~OU~ people gQing in in 311 kinds of dress. Jt isn't the age
of the people goin9' in. I thinK it is more that they come out when La
CUGbre closes, and like John said, they go and b~y their a1c6hol. The
noise fr~ La Cumbre, the music itself, is not ~s bad to our stree~ as it
Is when t~e:se people c.ae 04.lt~ go to ttl.;!; r cars to party wi th the beer
they have bought and the alcohol. and the t,co, and tne hamburgers, and
have these parties with the boom boxes going rig~t in front of our hGuses,
and then lea~e. and leiwe all tne debris. There were DRly two security
guards there t~at njght~ ] ~ave not S2en anybody driving around in a
Sp.curit, car, and I have been out there all times of the night, trying to
see what k1nd of security they have. As far as cleaning up the street,
they aren't getting \'ery far past the;r C'WT1 prDperty line. because every
Saturday and Sunday rooming, there is 3 mess out in front ~f our places
that WE are cleaning up. I do~'t see ~ere they ~a~e done anythi~g that
they promised to do. We have gotten nothing but talk from them. They
have do!'!e not one thing to cQoperate .,itt» us. Tr.e.)' are not a good
neighbor. T~ey really are creating havoc i~ our neighborhood with their
total disrega~d for laws, for the live music issue, for everything, They
just don't seem to e~en want to cQ<lperate there. Hr, Auanessfan seems to
feel t~at he is being punished fOT taking this Qn~ We are getting
punished for li~ing in the ~eighborhood. As a property owner a~d tax
payer, I resent that I am paying to ha~e the whole Police Oepartment.
-mich i tnink is ~ine personnel from Kldni9nt to e in the mornin9~ at .Y
corner e~ery weekend. J should feel safe~ I guess. but I resent it that
they are allan our block, I really strongly urge that you follow the
Zoning ~1~istrator's rec~ndation to shut down La Cumbre and take
their litense iway,
Clara Sharpless. 777 La para. Palo Alto: r tn~n~ the only time I eyer
ca.e to the Palo Alto Plannfng Commission is when we are talking about ~l
C .. i"o. I would like to recommend that you revoke the La C"lbre .se
penoit, Just this last .eek. I .as comiog home about 10:15 at "ight.
~alking down the street was I very attractive young man who had on an
overcoat, ~c shoes, and he had fallen down rignt on the street. I had to
step on ~y brake. Then~ when he fell down, he got ~p again, and tnen
there were a couple of houses further down, and he was he~dfng for them.
[f you will check the police ~epo~t. J called 911. and they said they
would go out and take care of the situitio~. This is the kind of el~nt
that 15 coming off of El C~ino into Barron Park, ThE busi"ESSeS llke La
Cuabre a~ other businesses like card rooms and massage parlors (J have
been aro1.lnd that long) just were an element on [1 Camino that were n<lt
uplifting to ~ur neignborhood. I would request that yOu re~oke their use
pe""lt.
Wjll Beckett. 4189 Ba~!1" Ayenue. Palo A1tc; I IA here !"epresentirl9 the
board of the Sarron Park Association firstt and then I will make some
peTson.1 cDnOents. Offi'i.1Iy, the board st111 fe.ls unanieo.sly th.t you
should uphold the Zoning Administrator's reco~ndit;on not to continue
this use permit for La Cumbre, and to deny his appeal.
I am i fairly trust1n9 person, as some of you may know. I tend t~ like to
try and work with the bird in the hind. 1n this case, 1 have to say. just
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liste~in9 tonight, ~hat I have grown ~re ahd more agitated. We had the
~etfng on S~ptember 12th, and heard from the owner t~at things were going
to be corrected and t~at he was unaware of th~se problems. At that time,
as Bob Mo$~ lndicated, we had no idea ~f what had happened a fe~ hours
earl'er. lhts was my first hint that I wondere6 whether t~is ~as somebod)
we could trust, a family life could trust. Happy ~ou~. if I remember right,
la Cuabre opentd at 9 o'clock before this. I don't know of any happy hour
that is It 9 o'clock. What I am reading to you are things I have under
the heading. ~Trust.~ I have lest mJ trust for th,s who1~ arganizitian,
I donrt feel that: can trust them to listen to what we have to say and to
do it oyer a long ~riod of time and ensure safety in the neighborhood.
Far one year, they nad Ute opportunity to correct i situation that was
po\nted out by t~e ~o1ict Oepartr.~nt. That did not happen unti1 the
threat of the use permit tame up.
The new owner~ change of owner within tbe fami]~. sounds a little shak~ to
.... It is j"st one of the things that Is adding to this that makes no
feel v~ry uncomfortable. lette~s from the Police OepartDent were not
necessarily wc~king with what was going on~ If I remember the gist of the
letters. They wn9 "When are you gOing to fix th1s?" and the~ continued
over ar.d over again wit~out things g~tting torrected until ~ started
getting ourselves fnYolv!d as a coamun1ty with this effort. The liY~
.usfc and the fact that th~y c9ntinued to say, despite the fact that the
~se penwft £iYS they cannat "ave live ~~ic, we are going to continue to
do it because that is what we have been doing.
This 1apression that they dan't cause problems, it seems to ae, is a
preble.. If they. i" fact, ~re community, residentfal, responsible
people within our neighborhood, they would be rec09o'z;ng the fact that
they need to .. rk not just ~ith thems.1ves and with the neighbors but with
the other ~Slne$s.s in tho n.ighborhood to try and correct this problem.
It is not just our probl~; it is not just their probiem; it ;s Dur
ccllective problem, and they don't sp.em to be wi11ing to recognize this.
Tbis concerns me. Tbts~ agai~, gives me this feeling that I cannot trust
what Is being sald.
I was a little bit confused, beca",e, like John. I received a phone call
asking John to Deet with the owner because I was ~nable to, getting this
eall saying, I am tne n~ own~r of La Cumbre and I would like tc ~et ~ith
you. At that time, based on whit I am hearing, the paperwork is not
complete yet and there really is no new owners~ip. I am very confused by
this whole thing. It just adds to .1 feeling that this is not somebody ..
can trust to do this. So 1 would urge privately as a ~esident the S~
thing I urged as the Presid~r.t of the Barron Pa~k Association, that we
pull this ~sa permit and not allow the. t~ operate. Thank yOY.
penny pgtrgsian. 443 venturi A~enui, Pilo Alto: Just one hou$eK~eplng
1tem. J n~t1ce that t~is is scheduled for the ag~nda of february 22,
along with the Matadcr.o Creek item and lIdt" the Alexis Orive itell. Please
p~l LI Cumbre on I diff!rent age~da so that we are not here at the very
end Iga if!. •
I really want to come back to someone ~o asked t~e question about police
costs~ How .uch are we spending on pol ice WOT(? 1 th;~k we really should
know this, because I think thfs is really critical for your finding of a
compelling reason. Police who are on this corner are not in other areas
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of town whert they may be needed for cri tical iitss~gnments. lih th our
dwindling city budget. I thin~ that is ,1so I compelling reason, not to
.ention the saftty of life and limb of people who live ;0 the
•• 19hborhood.
1 also need to sa~ that I live three bu11dingl away from La tumbre, and 1
live very close to where Maria 1 h'es. ! hue 1; ved thE-reo for just alxiut
20 years, and haye been with this establishment for th~t 10ng. ~hen it was
first called El Rancho. There ha~ never been any justif7cation all those
years for liYe IUs1c. It ~as n~t been Quiet u~t;l just this year, as far
as live .usic goes. T~ere have been constant complafnts of t~e noise.
Bob's mention of Shore,,"e ~kitheateT ~as been very ap~opos. How can
you control live .us1c within just a few feet tf yo~ cannot control it
when it i; miles and miles away from your town. It just doesn't make
s!nst to hive li~t RUsic right up against where penp1e 1ive. I need to
SlY t~at [ felt sa.ewhat of a siur cominq from the counsel for the
appellant when he first started describing La Cwabre and where it was and
that tnt closest n!lgnbars were JrJltl-unit complexes w1th the implicatio~
that somehow, that doesnJt count. The~e are a lot of renters ~ho 'i~e
very close to La C~re, and I Ma~pen to feel that J count and my family
count~ and .Y neighbors count! who are also renters. We have been 1;~ing
with this for all this timet and we bear the major bru~t of it.
There iTe several ti~s when I have woken up in tne morning at 3 o'clGC~
or later and neard a lot of noise outSide ~ bui1ding. I have frankly
been scared of t~e noise and the sounds that were coming in. I don't like
to fee1 that [ cannot feel safe in my neighborhood. [feel very safe
going out at 3 in the morning if I hive to, whether or not all of these
people fro. out of town "0 90 to La C~re. I don't see cars par~ed up
and down Ventura, people getting in and out of the~. t~at I ~now do not
live there. I don't think that fs a situation tnat we can tolerate,
niving all tMes~ cars all the way down Ventura to Park Boulevard. because
that is what happens when Lo C .. bre is open. That is not okay. I don't
see that this establishaent cln ope~ate ~ithout tnat overflow parking. If
they cannot cantafn their parking within their parking iot up on El
Camino, then no busfness deserves to be t~ere that cannot contain their
parking. So I urge ~ to do your duty tonight, as you would dQ for any
otner nefgnborhood !n t~t and revoke tne license of this establisrnnent.
Commissioner Cassel: Den~YI I WQuld like you to answer the specific
(!'uestiorl thit we have been ask'ng of other people who live in that
neighborhood. Is t~ere I differenct in the n~rnber of incidents of
unacceptable nuisance behavior that you have hid before~ and is there a
differen,e in the amount of trish that is on yo~r str~et?
"5. Pgtrgiiin: The trash I am not that aware of, but tne parki~ still
goes down Ventijra Avenue. It is a real ~uisance. As far as ~aking up at
3 in the morning. r Gan1t remember if [ have woken up at 3 in tne :loming
in the last couple of months. I wDuld not be able to give you the ti~
lin<.
tOllissicner Cas$e'~
a llttl~ better t~."
It happens to be.
So the neise, at least during the winter montns~ is
it ~as 1n the summer, wh1c~ tou14 be whatever fa~tor
~s. Petrcsian: J cannot give you ar.y informat;on. becduse I don't think
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Chajrperson Schmidt: Denny. I bave iI: qtJestion for you. a.lso. I believe
you $a~d tr.at there was live mUSlC provided by some of the owners of tne
club over the last some y€ars. Do you know that?
~s. Petrositn: [don't know for a fact that prior to this ownership that
there WilS, in fact, live mYsic. ram tilking about music. Period. If
you ~ave 1 lVE IlUstc, it is cle-arly Il\Uch harder to control Ulan recordtd
musIc. That Is clear.
Chairperson Scbmidt: Seeing no other speakers. I will cTose t~e public
portian of the hearing and bring it back to the commissian.
Mr, CaJonne: Could I make a suggestion that the commission reserve its
opportunity to reopen the publiC hearing jf the discussion s~ggests that
1S warranted. Ther! were I number of issues raisfd on which staff Qr
police m~y wish to submit further evidence. There may be issues raised O~
which the applicant ~ight want to submit further Evidence. [~not
suggesting leaving 1t open new, but just res!rving the opportunity to do
that.
Chairperson SCh~1dt~ Do we vote on that or just ma~e i statement to that
effect?
Hr-(alonne: If the~ is no objection from the eommission, if your order
reflects that, that '5 suff;ci~nt. If your order to close the public
hearing reserves the right to reopen, that is okay.
Chairpersgn Schajg;: Tne~ I will close t~e public hearing but I reserve
the right to reopgn it if there ;s ldditi~nll evidence provided by staff
Dr ~pp~llant. (The commission nods in a9r~ntJ Would anyone like to
continue this to another evening?
topmis5jpner 01a~: 1 haYe a coup1e of questions I want to .SK the
appellant and the Police Deparboent. Beyond that, I .. prepared to
discuss t~fs item and make a motion. I would prefer that we de our
busines~ tonight and nat contfnue this iteA.
The first Question I have is for the appellant's cQ~nsel, Mr. Tenenbaum.
You nave indicated that, to your knowledge, th:ere has been 1 ive music
played at this particular site in the past.
Mr. TenenbaUM: That fs the information that was given me by my client.
was retained in t~is Ditter for the first tl .. in July of 1992, .t which
tile I .at with Captain Herson. J haye no independent knowledge of what
occ~rred there befo~, ether t~~n what my client told .e about the perso~s
from who .. bought it and the persons that he knew .boot and his knowledge
of the orea.
Comm,ssioner Qjakta~: So ~f 1 isked you tcn;9~t to pr~$ent U~ with
so.tthlng that clearly indicates that there was live music being played at
t~is Site in the past, you would not have anything tG present to us?
~r, Tenenbaum: 1 cannot give you any facts at this tIme, but what I c.n
do ;s to giwe you a dec1aration, assuming there is furth~r testimony. ~y
client, the 80 percent owner of my client, Harry Auanessian, will be
present to present that. Or I can give you a declaration from him with
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his kn~wledge. r cannot give y~u any personal knowledge. Obviously, I
knew nothfng about tne place. I didn't even know it existed.
~1S51Qner Qjak1an; T~ey didn1t present you with a~y documentation. We
ha~e no concrete evidence t~at indicates that previo~s ~$tabl1sh~nts at
tnl, site pl.yed live BUsic.
Mr. Tenenbaym: No, because up untii this tiN'. ! was not presented with
any fndication that there was live music there before. I have presented
that knowledge at an informal meetin9 w1t~ the Zoning Administrator. I
presented it with the Police Cepart ... nt. [presented it at the time of
the actual fo~al Zoning Adm'nistrator hearing. and nobody ever ~rOu9ht
t~e issue up. T~at is why J didn't know there was a problem. I just
assumed it was true.
Cpmmiss,gner Q1aK1an: I was just wonderin9 if we have Gny clear
indication. sometning ws can look it that indicates to us that. in fact,
live MUsic has been played at t~is site.
Cpmm1ssiQnpr Btecham; ]f r could extend ycur question and ask the
prDspective new owner to present any data he has on tnis.
Mr. Ayang$sian: Just a few years back, t~ere was a salsa operation there
called Garfield/s. They played salsa GUsic there. EWEry Sunday night
they played salsa MUsic witn big orche~tras. They never had I~Y problem,
and I was aware of that, and that is why I brought the salsa m~sic i~
thll!re~
CO"jssjoner BeechiA: So YOd are saying that on Sunday ni9~ts, they had
live -.asic?
Mr. Auanessian: Yes.
CQ!lis§fpner Qjakia~: And that is one operation that was gOing on.
Mr~ Auaness;an: That is thE only one r am aware of. I do~'t know how
IIIany operations have been there. The,-e "as £1 Ran,ho, and they probably
had so.e live ~usic in there. is well. But I 1m aware of at this time, I
did, little research ~n it. and ~e~ 1 spo~e ~ith some Qf the radio
st.tions and tried to study the market. They told .. that at the time
t~at £arfield's was there, they were playing salsa ~sic. I would &150
like to aake the eomment that the security guard does Mot k~ow the
difference between s.ls •• nd latin Jazz. They hlppen to be the ....
thing. Another cOIIIIent I would 1; ke to make. When thi! second sp-ea~er
said that he drives by Wednesday nights and he doesn't s.e any activity
.nd thought the place is closed, th.t is ex.ctly wh.t [mean. The place
is open ~t it is closed becayse t~ere is no actfvity outside. ] have
.lso spoken ~ith tho Police Cepartment, and they indicated that they don't
have th.t many problems a~re. Jt ~as been taken care of. [wDuld also
like to hear from their point of Ylew.
I did ~ant to do a ride~alo~9. and they told ~ that I would not see
anything beca~se .cst of the probl~s ha~e been taken care of~
CQMllssioner Ojakian; That was, in fact, my second question, and it is
directed toward the Police Department. There have been some comments aade
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tonignt about whether these c111s for servIce actually emanat~ from La
Cumbre_~~d that tnere are not I lot of details on its~ etc. I ~o~ld 15ke
to have your comNents on that.
tapt, MersQn: I am r~a11y happy that you asked the question, becaure I
started to rile when I heard Mr. Tene~baU8 talk about that. because he
knows full well, and he never raised any prior abjection 1 when we did
provide him the data, that those calls come specifically fro. La cumbr.,
specifically called from th.t location. W. could have gone and done a
wider area search and attributed a much greater ncmber of calls from t~e
establishlent, b~t we dtd not want to do that and cloud the issue. We
wanted to attribute on1} those cll's that C~ from that address. They
don't cooe from El Rancho. They CODe fr"" Ll 'urnbre.
~~~~;Y:~~~~ Could you quickly c ..... nt on the events that 11. 1193. when t~e staff report indicates that there
riot out front that required the use of several poifce
several people, 1 be1ieve it was five. went to the
knife wounds?
Caot. MerSQn: There were a total of five people, I believe. that end~ up
at Stanford Hospital with various cut and stab wounds. There were several
polfce agencies that did have to respond to i large n~r of people in
the street who were fighting at that tiae. It included the California
HIghway Pitrol, Lo. Altos and St.nford polic., and I btlieve, Mountain
Yiew, as well.
tommjssloner Ojak1an: An~ thGse events were a direct result of acti~ity
that was happening at La Cuabre?
Capt. Merson: Th~ situation was at that location.
Cgmmj$$joner Glazier: ] hive a questiDn for the city attorn~y. I would
like to explQre a 1ittle bit more what our options are this evening. ]f
we, in fact, find that this business is detr1mental to the health, safety
;and welfare of the conmunity, is that a basis for only re\'okir,g the us.e
perm1t, or is it a basis for ren~otiat10n, basicaily, fr~ scratch. the
use perait?
Hr C .. lon",@: The code says you ca", modify the pe~it <:ondit·ions if there
1s • finding of • health, safety .nd .. lfare problem. So the code does
not authorize revocation in the absence of a permit v;olatiGn. ] a~
speaking w;t~out hovlng res.arched the leg;sl,tive history. but I think
the code envi.Ions that if I health ."d safety ~robl .. Iris •• , the
Planning Commission and Zoning Adainistrator can impnse condit~ons to deal
witn that. If those conditions are ~iolated, the" a revocation ~ould go
ahead. So I t~ink the code envisions a two+step process. That is why the
live .u$ic issue becomes of importance in the commission's decision
making. li the conclusions of the Zoning Admin1stl"'ator are sListained, t",e
l1ve musiC v101at1on would be grounds, ynder the code, for revocation.
COmmissjoner Cassel: Ari!l, we have an awkward situation where ~e have i
piece of property where, is far as we are concerned, it has one owner, and
the proposal for iny kinds of changes have Deen made by someone who is
proposing to own the pr:>pert.1'. Where does that leave LIS'?
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Mr. Calonne: 1 be11e~e the ~ommiss;on has a number of evidentiary
prob~eIIs ilt this point to si ft through. One, have you heard Dr receh'ed
any evid~nce to support i conclusion that there has been a tNnsfer? Two,
have you heard or received any evidence to support a contlusfcn that there
wa~ live music in the ~a~t? If you accept that, that matters, from a
legal standpoInt, I am not, at thIs poInt, prepared to advise that that
does matter. [think that at this point, the commissionis consideration
ought to be focused on tne evidence you have hear~ and what it means to
you. Agilin, I think you do have the opport1Jnity to r~quest additional
evidence eIther from stIff or from the appellant. If the appellant is
~"able to produce that ewidence, you can take that into account in
reaching your decision. I don"t know that yOy have that obligatiDn.
feel that the appellant has had full opportuoity to present any evidenc.
that It is capable of presenting. So I don't think you have that
obligatfon, but it is certainly an o~tion for yo~.
"5, Lytle; I haYe une piece of information that I went upstajrs t~ count
froa the aerial photograph~ wh~n it was asked ear1ier in the hearing to
confirm. Tnat was a request for the "umber of parking spaces on the
site. There a~e 23 spaces, accotding to the air photos, on site.
Commissioner Btecham; 1 have a question on the impact of live mus~c
versus recorded .us;c. To me, susic noise is related to volume. You can
get tne same volume out of an ~lified recorded music system as you can
if yo~ have players up ther~ doing ~t the.selves. Does staff have iny
input on the r.oise level to be expected outside a facility. wnetner there
is ltve versus recorded ~Jstc being played?
~$. Lytle: r think the live issue .usic is mare an ;ssue of the lind of
draw that it will attract, the kind of activity tnat it generates, the
kind af attitude and excitement tnat a liye band will produce ver~us I
r~corded ~usic enVironment. rt is mor! an issu~ of tbe type of evtnt that
it becomes than it is an issue of the noise direttly e~anating from the
facility. which r think is what the proposed conditions from the new
.. naqeoent have to de.l with.
Cpmmj$$joner $chink: r have a question for the appellant's attorney. You
seem to want t~ respond to the evidence supplied by the Police D@partment,
so if you could do that. Also, if y~u could suggest tnat you have any
facts tnat would support your previous assertions that their reports are
incorrect. that people that ire listed there. in fact, were not associated
with the club. Finally. in your previous ~otice of Appeal, you suggested
tnat the Zoning Administrator ~ad lOOKed at evidence whic~ was improperly
included. Have we heard .ny evidence tonight that you feel is i~roperly
included?
Mr· Tenenbaum: Tnat was probably a shotgun appeill to cover ail subj~ct
.atter, because there was no specificity on it.
~1ss1o"tr $chink: Does that me.n no. you haven't he~rd anything
tonIght that '-
~r. Tenenbaum: Other than what we have mer.tioned. no, I danIt thinK. she
has ~xcluded anything. As far as your first two questions, they go
toget",er and nave the same answer, tnat is, can I respond to anything yOIJ
said that he would never have given us ~ny information abo~t any arrests
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or activitieS tnat did not have anything to do wit., La Cumbr~. and do I
have any doc~ntat1an~ let Me work bacKwards on the she!t that w~s given
me la5t with rega~ to act!vities that were there. Tne very 1.st one on
the bottom Is at 5:12 in the afternoon, four hours before tne place opens
u~~ A person was drunk in public out on the street. That ~as nothing to
do ~ith La Cwobre. The next one is at 3:03 in the afternoon. That person
was st~.nded witn a six-month-old baby because her friend was arrested.
She needed to get to the Santa Ro.a Greyhound b<,. Nothin9 to do .ith La
CU8bre. T~e next one is a call for help~ white, male adult at El Rancho,
the hotel, with long blond hair, causing a disturbance. That is at
six o'clock in the evening, nothjng tc do with La Cumbre. I can just keep
going up the list. That is ~ response.
8lrk Venable; As you are aware, we have a unique s1tu.tion w~ere the
hotel and La Cuabre share the same addre~s. We haye continued to use in
our police computer fo~ ~alls for service t~at sa~ addres~. Whit Mr~
Tenenbaum hlS. when r ~n out a calls for serw!ce prjntout for that
specif~c address is ail the calls for service at t~e hotel and it La
CWlbre. What we hive done in tne 84 caliS for service t~at you saw
bet~en August, 1991 and August, 1993 and on the FAX copy that Mr.
Tenenbaum has, we have go~e thro~h each and everyone of those calts for
seNite and have aeticulousTy eXlJained the cases, and then ha'ie gone and
spoken to tne police officers who were involved in those incidents for
those arrests in order to ensure, before passing it on to you and to Hr.
Te~enbaUM, that ~t was. in fact, directly related to that specific
addr2ss~ On the FAX copy that Mr. Tenenbaum has that we sent over, there
is an Lt written next to those elevEn calls for ser-.... ice that are directly
rel;ted~ The ones that he was just reading !re~ in fact, related to tbe
hotel, obviously. We have all those copies of those cases. We could
present thai. We have forwarded them to the ABC. That i, .hat they h.ve
based their enforcement aetion on. We ~ave gone to great lengths to
erisun the authent it-i ty of those cases. .6.1 so, just to underscore, what
you have is just the specif~c add~ss searth to that location only. It is
a very c:onservathe estimate. Any incident that has e" .. e" t"e 51 igbtest
question we throw out and do not carry it forward to use in this
instance. Any peripheral <all, for service, like the one alluded to
earlier tonight, s~thing two blocks up t~2 road or down the street, is
not even included. That would involve In incredible ~unt of work. it
can be do~e; .e did that analysis for The Edge, and 1t brought the entire
scope of the problem into a cl~arer picture~
Commissioner Beecham: Just fer refere~ce on t"at~ on the list we do have
herel in scanning through it, t~ere was one item at 5;30 in the afternoon
for narcot1cs~ Th! only otf'ler items in the afternoon are for the alarm
sounding at the facility. Everything else iz at n19ht or early mornjng,
it s.ea,.
Mr. IentnbaUlt: I don1t want to feel 1 ih a .)0'0.10 coming back, but one
point on whit he said, for ane of these eleven dis~urbances, it says,
disturbance 22 minutes past midnight at La tumbr.. Music too loud, PO
check, and then after that, No Violation.
Commistioner Aeech~: Can staff summarize how the noise ordinance ~ould
apply to this facility,
Mr. Colonna: The portion of the noise ordin.nce that would apply to this
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facility is in Chapter 9.10.040 of the Palo Alto Municipal Cod~ for
COMme~ial and industrial property noise limits. It says that no person
shall produce, suffer or al10111 to produce by any madt1ne or device or any
cOlbfnation of S~ on c~mmercjal or industria' ~~opert1 a noise level
more than ei9ht decibell above the local ambient it any point outside the
property plane.
Commissioner Beecham: ]f I recall my poor schooling in noise,
i~act of eight decibels is less than a doubling of the noise?
dbs Is roughly doubling of the p.rcefved volume, I think.
a ,perceived
Abaut ten
Commissjoner~: Tnis is i Quest1cn for staff. T~is is sort of a
strange approac~, but I want ta try it out and get your sense of it. At
thfs point, [ am strongly leaning to~ard tne belief tnat this permit
should be revoked, but I have not f~lly concluded that. ] also recognize
that they seem to be posturing tnemselves towards fulfilling all of their
legal remedies and soggesti"9 that ~ur action might be overturned. Are we
in a position to first modify the use permit pri~r to revoking it?
Mr. C'lQnne~ [am ~ot sure I follow i~U. The commiSSion could, for
exa~le, .od1fy the use permit and require I re~iew within some number of
IOnths to determine whether there has been complianct with those
conditions. ] heard a number of questions directed to Mr. Auanessian
dealing .ith how ~any ~ecur;ty guards. bas1cal1y, a ~!ry detailed
operational analysis. The commission could move t~wards putting all of
those operational restrictions as specific conditions Orl t.he pennit and
agafn, reQuire l review ~ith1n some time period for further conSideration
of the revocation. But if you lrt suggesting I two-step process to modlfy
it tonigMt and t~n revoke It, 1 don~t think tnat is necessary or
appropriat.e.
Chairpersgn Schmidt: [would like to clarify f~ our conversations at
the precommissian meeting this aorning that our options, as ] understand
t~, are to uphold the Zoning Ad.inistrator's decision and agree with the
staff recommendations. The second option would be to add conditions to
the existing conditional use permit, somewhat is Ariel just described, and
we co"ld try to crift those cond;tions to";ght. As. third opt;,n, we
could discuss concepts, thf~9S we would lik~ to have in the conditions.
and ask staff to prepare co"~itions and come back to us with well thought
out, well construe-ted conditiorls that woul<1 go. along with tt:.ings that we
want t~ see, go along with things similar t~ t~e requir~!nts put on The
Edge.
Mr. Cal anne: That is correct, and] would want to esphasize tnat you can
ask for that last action. the staff preparation of condltions, without
n!cessarily committing yourself tnat you are gDing to accept theM. In
other words, the co~ission may S~i t~at we cannot determine whether
revocation is appropriate until W! see before ys for deliberation a list
of c~nd1tlons that we would want to consider in the alternati~e. So you
can leave your option open and ask staff to do that and come back and let
you weigh them in that fashion.
Chairperson Schmidt: If ~ di~ tr.at, at that point, we would also have
the apti.::tn to re<l'pen the public hea,.tn9~ or is tnat another noticed
hearing?
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Mr. Cjlon"e: Yes, you would ~aye tnat option.
tha1rperson Sch'i~: ls It noticed or is it something W~ do at the time?
Mr, [alonne: Probably. the best thing to do, if you go tnat route in the
a.ctiQrl t.onigt\t, ,it to treit it as ~ continua.nce and leave the hearing apen
tonight to avoid any possible car-fusion.
~: Commissioner Beecham: Takfng the advice of co~nsel, as well as
c~nts ~ere tonight, I would like to 80ve that we continue this and give
staff directions on conditions tnat we feel are necessary to be
implemented in the permit toward ensuring that the operation eliminates
the problems th.t are being cau,ed .nd have been c.used to the
neighborhood. Conditions that I would see th.t oust be addressed jovolve
having uniformed gua~s on Ventura Avenue w;lh the objective of
eli.inat1ng customer parking on Ventura Avenue. Another condit1or. I would
see involves a cutoff of serving Ilcohol. We do~'t have .uch in teras of
what are appropriate times, but one approach is, on a weekend, a cutoff it
12:30 a .•. and w!ekdays at 12 midnight. 1.1so a condition regarding l~tter
picku~ nightly. A condition on a noise monitoring prDgr~. from my pOint
of view, J ~ not sure if it .akes a difference whether the music inside
i5 live or not, in t~rms of the perceived noise outside. r think an
effective approach Is to MOnitor tne noise outside. and find out if It is
in co.pl~ance with our noise ordinance, and ensure th,t it does come into
compliance. So I can see .t l.ast tnose four reQUirements. A fifth
requ1~nt is on parking. I a. amazed that tne parkjng is so far below
to. demand of the location. I h.ve no idea how to approach the p.rking
fssue. One option may b6 to get a formal agreement with the All Amerfcan
Market so that the ur.iformed guards can more directly control the overflow
j nto th.t lot.
~: By Ch.irperson Schmidt.
CpemjssiQner (issel: I was going to move that we deny tnis. The reason
for that i$ t~at we have to determine t~at in fact. they were using live
.. sic when that was not according to the per.lt. My feeling is that I
have not been presented with ~aterial that indicates that the new owner
owns the property and has the right to consent to the conditions t"at we
would .ake. The current owner has come to defend his position but has not
aad~ any offers to us tnat if he remains the owner. h~ ~ould comply with
any of these tond1ttons. So) dQ not feel comfortab1e, at th15 time,
making conditions with the current own~r. It puts he in a bind. If they
had come to us with a new owner, who was then in the position to ~ake
those agreements, that would be one thing. I feel that they .re using
live MUS!C when they have an agreement tnat they should not. I feel that
they ha •• c.used a health and safety endangerment problem to the
neighborhood, 50 ) feel t~ey have wiolated both of t~ose agreements.
CQI!js5ioner Beecbam: We might want to be careful, pernaps, on ~ow much
reliance we put. if we go in the direction ycu are talking about, O~ the
h.ck of factual backup on a n~ owner. This issuE', I presume. "ill 9D to
the City Council after it comes here. So if, for exa.ple. the appellants,
as ttJey indicate to us, are--in the process of purthasing the property.
they •• y ha •• factual data by that time that would kick out one leg of the
tlble we have here.
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Commissioner Caisel: D~es t~at create any problems? Co~ld the council~
if tney ~ave evidence that this is a new owner. and people brought in
conditional agreements on the grounds of the kinds cf things you were
stating, but at tnis pOint, W! ~o not hayt a ne~ owner.
Cgwmjss1gner Beecham; Part of my mDtion that I did not get to is that
st.ff will ha" to got back to us. I don't know how soon th.t could be
done. One condition that also could be put in there is that we de get
confirmation by th~t date of the transfer of own!rship.
~omm;ssi9n§r Carrasco: I would 11ke to speak against this ~otion.
think, firstly, tnat there is clear eY'jden<:e that there is a violation of
the condition of lh. IlUslc. It is clearly stated in tn. use permit.
T~rough our testtmonYr ;t is clearly described by the appellant and the
new appellant, the person who may take it over, that he intends to
continue to have liv€ ~s1c. So it 1s i clear violation of a relsonable
condition, if we use Ariel's first setup of what we n~ed to lock at.
In addition to that, there is a ~uge nUMber of issues that violate the
~ealth, slTeotY----and ge-neral welfare in that area. J am not confident that
a clear indication that he cannot have live mus1c will not fall down the
road and th! appiicant comes in and says, we don't t~ink we n~~d to obey
the noise ordinance, Dr we can trash the neighborhood and that 15 okay~
and we don't agree with 1t. So r have no confidence t~at this applicant
can perfonB. So I find that both Df thes! conditions are being violated
--the condition of the use permit is being violated, and the healt~.
safety and welfare is being violated. So I wii1 speak against the motion,
and I will w.lt for P~ylljs to make a .ution if tnis one does not pass.
~; C_"$Sioner Glazier: Could we make a substitute IIOtion? That
would be to uphold the decisiDn of ttle Zoning Administrator.
CbafrDersqn Sc~idt: We haYe a motion on the floor that we need to vote
on first, unless you want to accept I substitute motion.
stand by my motion.
commissioner Qjakian: I a2 also not gOing to support the metlon. To just
step b.ack for as second, off of hearirlg some of tne pub1ic COlTIT\ents
tonight, 1 pretty ~ch suppo~t the c~nts that Commissioner Carrasco
just made. First of all, tonight we are not discussing the state of [1
Camino Real. ~e have discussed that in other domains ~nd in other
situations at other ti~s. There are plenty of venues for doing tnat, the
Cocpre~ensiye Plan Advisory Coa.ittee being one of those. Tnat is an area
that is being conSidered right now as a study area. So thos~ people who
are interested in tne state of E1 Ca_ino Real, which I personally .also as,
hay! another place to deal with that issue.
Second, to me~ the thing we are not disr,ussing tonl~ht is the q~estian of
new ~ersh1p. j am not ~ven c~nsider1ng that, per se. It was
interesting to hear the facts and t~ get a feel for hDW the operttion ;s
run. I ~ little appalled over the relationship between the capacity of
t~is operation and the amount of parking available f~r it. I donlt want
to get into i sltiJaticfJ at t~at site anywhere down the road t~at does some
sort of spot zoning to deal with the parking. That is the wrong way to
90, in my .i~d~ I have seen it before, and] prefer to ~yo;d it. It is
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nice to nave an applicant who appar!ntly has some~hat of a good track
record. who has a~ Idea and wants tc do so~thing in Palo Alto. There is
a venue for them, and tnat is, to co~ to tne city and apply for a use
PE'rait anlj 90 through ttli s proce'S5. .hat we are d ;,c;cuss i ng ton i ght il.
-mether we should allow tn~ (ontlnuatlon of the current use permit in
front of US t or ~dlfy it. There clearl1 are grounds for ~difying it. [
dan't think we need to go back t~rou9h this. Just looking at these calls
for service, hearing the coaments by the Police ~partment tonight, and in
particular, focusing in on one e~Ent. the night of September 11, 1993,
when I don't think there is anybody in this room who said tney would deny
the fltt that we h.d • riot in fTont of the club tnat was well beyond the
levels of reasonabl!ne5S~
My feeling is that if we get into modifying this, with several conditior.s,
t~al in essence, th~ way I wnuld want to modtf~ it, J am not ~ure whether
the appellant would ~a~t to stay i~ business. So in my mind, there is
plenty of justification for revoking this use penm1t t and that is because
in the words of the city attorney. t~ere was a vio1ation of reasonable
cond1t1o~. Tbere is, and apparently t~ere intends to be, live ~s1c
played .t this site. I have not seen in front of me (and m.ybe th.t will
appear before tbis goes t~ the City CQuncil} clear indicatio~ t~at li~e
~sic has been played thEre consistently ever a period of time. I don't
th'nk that playing MUsic en a Sunday night is justificition fer saying
that that is an indfcation tn~t live music can be played tnere. Even if
there has been some live musle played t~ero before. I don't thin~ it is
just!f1cltfon for saying that i conditional use permit can be violated
just because we didn't ~now that that was happening. So in my ~ir.~. I
canpot support tne motion, becaase in my mind~ the correct motion is gaing
to be SOMething along the lines of what ComMissioner Cassel was
suggesting. That ;s, that we re~oke the use pe~it before us ton1ght.
Com-i$s1oner Glazier; r just contrast this sit~ation with the $ituation
regarding The Edge. I think the tenor of the discussion between tne
appellant and the neighborhood is still wrong. When tne problems were
si.ilar. when we c~ to this point with Th! Edge, we had before us, well
before the helTing, • long list of proposed remedies. W. had the ~jority
of those reMedies implemented. We had a sUbstantiil n~mb~r of n~ighbors
spe.king on behalf of the appellant, b.sed on a good faith sense th.t
changes were going to be made. Here, we bave a potential new owner who
.ays many of the things th.t need to be said to put this In pl.ce, but
still, the tenor of these discussions outside this room, look where you
are and look where you are, there is just something wrong aboJt tnat. [
ha~e nQ basis to say tnat you won't live up to yoyr promises. hut I don't
feel ca.fortable continuing this proceSi whe~ here we are on complete
oppOSite ends of the spectrum. I could envisiDn a clrcum~tance .here you
Ci8e bAck to us, after we ~ispen5ed with this t ~lth a new proposal for a
business and a new use permit where we might be able to craft conditions
that would b. amenable to tn" neighbors and to yourself. But to me, the
offenses have been extraordinarily egregious. Tne date of this hearing
has been no surprise to anyone. The fact that the filing for th~~ cha~ge
of ownership was root proposed to take place until today indicates to ae
that the tenor of the discussions and the basis of good faith is just nGt
there yet. Until that Is there, I do not fe.l comfortable eontinuing
these discussiDns. There is a basis ih my mi~d for determining that the
bUSiness is detrimental to the healtn t safety and welfare of the
community, and] would support tDnight revoking the use penlit on that
basls.
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Comef$~lQher SCh1~k: I would feel more comfortable if we ~od;fied the use
penn1t. I only believe that because I thinkl in the long run, that ~s
what w1ll hold up. when] lDD~~ it this sitllation. it seem~ to me that if
YOli cannot revoke a use pe-nait because someone CiiJ:'ieS a riot. can you find
i better reaso~? But as described to me, those were not the standards.
They ~ad to violate one Df the tond1Uons of the use permH. The
connection betwee~ playing loud music and the riot occurring and the other
events, ! just don't think. that ;s strong enough. I tnink that we need to
modif...\o' the use permit to get at the problems, and the problems are
documented in the po11cE report. To do that, we should ask them to close
t~ir business at 11 o'clock. on weekends and ]0 o'clock on ~eek n;9~ts,
and t~at we should pro~ibit them fr~~ playing live music, because you
C3nnot control t~e yol~ of li~~ music. I would impo~e those cond1tfons
at thi s pOint, and ask th2tl'l to come baci( in four IKInths. I would also ask
staff to come up with a list of conditions to get at the parking proble.
_~en they come back in four months. That is the approach I would take.
Commissiqner Bee~ham:
word to. conditions to
sure it 15 wortn~ile,
r am wondering if there Is a value in trying to
get just a little bit more support here. ] am not
so [ am not gOing to pursue that at the moment.
Chairperson Schmidt: [would like to add that I would s~pport the
existing aotion and Jon's comments. I t~~nk that according to what ha\
been related to us, the existing conditional use permit only has a couple
of condition.s~ The curreht management looks like they are att_tlng to
.ake some changes~ but we do not have a structure that says whit changes
we .int and how tnat should be monitored and when It should be checked. I
think it would be useful to try to create ~ list of condftions th!t would
be agreeable and ~ould vastly change tne i~~ct of this facility on the
c~nity. So I would support thil .ation~ and we have mentioned a number
of items here~ if we could ask staff to craft a list of conditions that
would ir"lude some of the things that Bern has mentioned, some of the
things tbat Jon has mentioned, but refer to the condHiort'.i for The Edge
for a nUiber of community concerns. I don't think we hi~e to lIst ill of
tn. conditIons tn,t we .ignt think wo"ld apply. Wh.t Vic said may not be
agreeable to the appellant, but r think it would be reasonable to tr~ and
put together a list of conditions, so I will support this current motion.
HOTTON fAILS: Chairperson Sc~: 15 there any further discussion on
this motion? It has been moved b~ C~issioner Beecham and seconded by
~self to ccntinue tnis hearing, to delete the clOSing of t~e p~b1ic
hearing, and send this back to staff f~r adding and crafting of conditions
whIch t~ think would be acceptable to ~.king this facility run. Some of
the cQnditions mentioned would revolve around hiVing guards to preverlt
parking on Ventura Avenue; S~ sort of solution to the parking problemi a
cutoff ti~ for serving alcohol; more detail about litter piCKUp; noise
50nitDring and control; SCGe evidence of transfer of ~ershi~; SOMe
closing times~ 1 believe those .re most of tha possible conditions
mentioned. All those in favor, s~ aye~ All opposed? That f.lls on a
vDte of 3-4, wtth Comaissicners Beecham , Schink and Schmidt ~Dting f~r~
and Coa;issioners Carrasco, C~ssel, Glazier and Ojakian voting aga;nst~
Is there another motion?
~: COMmissioner Cassel: i move that we support the staff report a~d
the decision of the Zoning AdministratGr in this case and deny the
conditicnal use permit.
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Chajrper$on Schmidt: Is there any further discussion On this motion? It
~.s been aoveG and seconded to support the stoff recommondatlon that the
fla~nin9 Commisslon recommend that the Lity Council uphold tne Zoni"9
~;"istr.tor's deti,ion and revQ'~ the .se permit 73-UP-Z2, ba.ed on the
fiPdings included herein.
Commissioner tarrlSto: 1 support this motion because I believe that the
n~ applicant '~n come ~efore the city and file for i new use permit.
Mr. Ci1onne: If the ca.mission wants that to be the case~ my suggestion
would be that ,YOU add the words that the cOGIIission/s action ts withollt
prejudice to • new applicatior..
Chairperson S~hmidt: The motion will be modified, and the maker and
s&conder of the motion hav2 &ccepted the ~1fi~~tion.
MUON PASSES; £h.lir.person Schmjdt: All' those in favor, say Aye? All
opposed? That pa.sses on a \'ote af 6-1, with Corrm1ssioner Beec.ham voting
agAinst.
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