HomeMy WebLinkAbout0473.092~tober 22, 1992
THE HONORABLE CITY COUNcIL
?alo Alto, California
Attention: Finance Committee
BArron Park Drainage and street Design Guidelines. erp 47704
Members of the Council:
Eeport in Brief
This report transmits a set of design guidelines for future street
and drainage improvements in the Barron Park neighborhood and
reco~ends that Council approve the guidelines.
Sa cJsaround
Barron Park residents have traditionally valued the rural character
of their neiqhborhood and have opposed the use of city standard
vertical curb, gutter, and sideWalk on streets in Barron Park. On
Auqust 1, 1990, the Barron Park Association (BPA) submitted a set
of ·Street Standards for Barron Park" to Council as a recommended
alternative to the design standardD used elsewhere in the City.
On August 13, 1.990, Council referred the BPA standards to the
Finance Committee for review and recommendation.
The Finance committee met on october 30, 1990 to discuss the SPA
standards and directed staff to return to the Committee with the
costs for hiring a consultant tc, develop design guidelines for use
in Barron Par~ (CHR~510:0). staff returned to the Committee en
December 11, 1990 ~ith a scope of work and cost estimate of $25 1 000
for a consulta.nt study (CHR:600:0). The committee approved staff's
recommendation to Council that a consultant study be included in
the 1991-92 Capital Improvement Program budget. The Barron Park
Drainage/Street Improvement Guidelines project was approved by
council as a capital improvement project in the 1991-92 budget. On
september 2, 1991, Council approved an agreement 'With CH2M Hill
California, Inc., to develop drainage and street design guidelines
for Barron Park in conjunction with the preparation of a new storm
Drainage Master Plan (CMR:407:91).
Disoussion of Community Input
In order to receive input from the community regarding street and
drainage quidelines for Barron ParK 1 staff and the consultant
hosted a series of three community meetings and distributed a
survey questionnaire. The meetings were held at a local elementary
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school. Meeting notices we~e mailed directly to all Barron Park
residents (see ear~on Park map, J..ttaC',hment A) in order to encourage
active neighborhood participation. The questionnaire "Was also
mailed to all residents and included !!l postage-paid return envelope
to facilitate response. A s~~ary of each of ~he meetings and th~
questionnaire results ate included in the consultant's !'eport
(Attachment B).
The first co~unity meeting was held on March 26, 1992 at Hoove~
Elementary School. The purpose of this meeting was to give an
overvi'!!w of the guidelines study and to identify the residents r
major concerns and preferences re: ated to street and drainage
design.. The conSUltant presente.d. several qene:r-al approaches to
street design and drainage control and solicited feedback from the
meeting attendees.
Using the input gathered at the first community meeting, staff and
it6 consultant developed a written questionnaire ~hich was mailed
to all Barron Park residents on April 22, 1992. T~xough the mail
in questionnaire, staff was able to qather input ~rom those people
'WhQ were not able to attend one of the meetings~ Although the
questionnaire can not be depi~ted as a statistically valid
representation of community interests, it gave valuable feedback
from throughout the ne.iq~rhood 'Which was used to develop the
desiqn guidelines. Approximately one-third of the questionnaires
(545 out of 1670) were cOlll.pleted and returned to the City.
staff and the consultant used the public input from. the first
cOllUDunity meeting and the returned questionnaires to develop a
preliminary set of drainage .and street design guidelines, which
were presented at a second community me~ting held on May 21, 1992
at Hoover Elementary school~ Although the residents continued to
express many varied points of view l there was movement towards
general acceptance of the proposed guidelines.
In an effort to achieve greater community consensus on the deSign
guidelines, staff continued to refine the guidelines and then
hoste~ a third community meeting on September '9, 1992 at Hoover
Elementary School~ At this meeting, staff narrowed the focus of
the guidelines to three key issues: drainage features, pedestrian
walkways, and criteria for implementation of the design guidelines.
Kore specific inforEation, such as details for proposed drainage
features and options for construction mater ials, were presented for
public review. Additional flexibility was incorporated into the
quidelines, so that they could be applied to the man:r varied
scenarios of existing street conditions in the Barron Park
neighborhood.
piscussion of Design Guidelines
Based on the input received from the community and direction from
staff, CH2M Hill has prepared a report containing a proposed set of
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Barron Park dr~lnage and $treet desiqn guidelines (Attachment B).
The design guidelines address three maj:)r topics:
1. criteria for implementation
2. Drainage features
3. Pedestrian walkways
CRITERIA FOR IMPLEMENTATlON OF DESIGN GU"DELINES
The consultant report includes sever&l narrative criteria for
implementation of the d~sign quidelines. These c~iteria re£lect
the neighborhood's desires fo~ how the guidelines should be
implem.ented in Barron Park. Since the guidelines are not rigid
standards to be iaplemented uniformly througho~t Barron Park, these
narrative cr-iteria will provid.e vall.:.able guidance to statf when
desi9ning or approving improv6ments for a specific street.
• .0 new prograa. will .b-e created to construct atr •• t and.
drainaq. iJlprov ... nta throughout Barrol! Park all at oElee.
Since there does not appear to be any 6ense of urqency in tho
community to make improvements in Barron Park~ no new capital
improvement project is needed. In addition, residents
expressed. oppos.ition to any new fees, taxes., or asseSSlflents to
construct improvements.
• IlIProveaaata vill be incorporated. iato onqoinq Ci t7 stora
drain, .t.re.t r •• urracing', aD!! .14..,a111: project.. In order to
ensure compatibility with area-wide plans for Barron Park:
infrastructure improvement, street and drainage improvements
should De designed and scheduled in conjunction with ongoing
capital improvement programs. The installation of drainage
features, in particular, should be coordinated with the
construction of underground storm drain pipelines.
COns.truction impacts to the neighborhood will also be
mini~ized by incorporating street and drainage improvements
into onqoing City programs.
• xaproveaents will :be d.esigned to .tit within existing right-ot
way and to .i~i.il. the iapact. on exi.tinq 1.n~se.piDq and
parkinq patterns. l'avu\8:ut width shall remain at le.&st. as vide
•• exiating pav .. ant, vbere po •• ible. Residents expressed a
desire to mAintain the current appearance and usage of
streets, including landscaping and par-king patterns. SDme
items that encroach into the City right-of-way may need to be
removed to accommodate future street and drainage
improvelllents, but staff wi 11 attempt to design the
improvetllents so that the disturbance to existing conditions is
minimized. Although the narrowness and variability of right
of-way W'idths in Barron Park may limit the ability to
construct improvements, there will be no acquisition of new
right-of-way.
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• Iaprov •• .nt. w111 be eonatruct.4 on & block by block b&.i.~
street and drainage improvements ~ill not b~ functional if
they are built in a piecemeal fashion~ An isolated section
of walkway or gutter serves little or no purpose and creatEs
an undesirable hodqepodge appearance, Any new improvements
need to extend a minimum of one block or Ce contiguous to
existing imprvvements~
• n. exact loeatioll &114 exte~t of aotU.l ill.prov_ent.a v111 btl
4eterained vitb neiqhborhood input OD • caae by cas. b..ia.
The design guidelines presented in the consultant's report are
tY.lt intended to be rigid standards to be implement-e.d uniformly
throuqhout Barron Park. Due to the variability of existing
physical conditions and neighborhood opinion, the final design
of street and drainage improvements should not be performed
without neighborhood input, Using the deaign guidelines as a
framework, project designe-r-s should meet 'With the affected
residents to develop a detailed design that is acceptable to
the neighborhood.
• Separate qui4aliD.. apply t.o collector street. and ~oca.l
.tr •• t.. Residents pointed out that the need for improvements
varies significantly between local streets ::!-~ the busier
collector streets~ consequently, separate design guidelines
were developed for each street classification~ For the
purposes of the design quidelines l the following streets are
designated as collector streets (see Attachment A):
Matadero Avenue rEl Camino Real to Laguna Ave.)
Barron Avenue (El Camino Real to Laguna Ave.)
Los Robles Avenue {El ca~ino Real to Laguna Ave.)
Maybell Avenue (El Camino Real to Donald Dr~)
La Donna Street (Barron Ave~ to Los Robles Ave.)
Amaranta Avenue (Los Robles Ave~ to Maybell Ave~)
Laguna Avenue (Matadero Ave. to Los Robles Ave~)
DRAINAGE FEAT~~ES
Improved drainage was 'Widely regarded as an important goal to he
achieved through street improvements. In addition to carrying
stormwater, drainage featul'es serve to hiqhlight the edge of the
roadway, identify the limits of City maintenance responsibilities,
and help stabilize the edqe of the asphalt pavement~ separate
quicielines were developed for collector and local streets as
described below.
Local .tr •• t.: A 3'-wide concrete valley gutter was selected for
use on local streets. A valley gutter is maintainable and
functional, and yet less formal than a vertical curb and gutter.
The valley gutter will be installed at the edge of existing
pavement and will de-fine the limits of city maintenance. The area
outside the gutter will be left in its existing condition and will
be the maintenance responsibility of the adjacent property cwner~
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Collec:tor at..r •• t.: A 3'-wide concrete rClIl~d curb vas selecte.d for
use on collector streEts in conjunc~ion with pedestrian ~alkvays.
A rolled curb is reco~ended over a valley gutter because it forms
more of a barri6r between the street and the adjacent pedestrian
walkway.
The draina9~ features will be built ~ith concrete because of its
proven d.urabili ty and because it can be ct;)nstruc:ted to precise
slopes. These chl!lracteristics are particularly important in Barron
Park due to its relatively flat terrain. In accordance with the
preference ex~ressed by residents at tne comnunity meetings, the
concrete ~ill be tinted a medium gray color to blend in better with
the adjacent asphalt street.
Although Barron Park residents generally object to the use of the
City's standard vertical curb and qutter} there are a few instances
where most people agreed that it is appropriate. The design
guidelines state that vertical curb and qutter should be used on
Barron Park streets a~onq ~~e side front~ges of properties that
front on El Camino Real. This approach gives E1 Ca~ino properties
a uniform appearance and provides a transition zone from tfie busy
E! Camino commercial strip to residential Barron Park. The
guidelines also provide that vertical curb and gutter may be
appropriate as a drainage solution to fill in gaps on streets with
existinq sections of vertical c-I.lrb and gutter. In this instance,
the guidelines also allow for the possibility of removing the
existing vertical curb and gutter, su:bject to a review of the
amount of existing gutter and the desires of affected residents.
PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS
Barron Park residents viewed pedestrian walkweys as desirable in
certain locations for ~easons of safety rather than convenience.
Most residents seem to be willing to walk in the ;treet or along
the shoulder as long as there is not a significant amount of
i!lutomtlbile traffic. The design guidelines, therefore, do not.
racommend pedestrian walkways on local streets. Walkways ....... ere
cOiiosidered appropriate, however I on. collector streets and near
GChools.
The design quidelines recommend that all collector streets be
considered as candidates for pedestrian walkways, particularly
~~ose adjacent to local schools. In practice} other factors may
effectively limit the a~ount of walkways that can be constructed in
Barron Park~ Right-of-way width~ existing landscaping and ~rivate
improvements, parking patt~rns, and the location of utility poles
are all elements that would need to be analyzed on a block by block
basis, in order to determine the feasibility of pedestrian ~alkways
on a particular street.
The design guidelines identify concrete and asphalt as acceptable
materials for pedestrian walkways, priJ!larily due to their all
weather surface and their pro-.... an durability. Although 'Walk:ways are
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intended for use by pedestrians, thei' are also subject to auto
traffic at driveways and parking ;oreas and m1.,;.5t be designed to
withstand the wear and tear of such use. Other materials, such as
decomposed qr~nite or gravel, are not recommended due to inhe~ent
maintenance problems. The selection of either. concrete or asphalt
for a specific walkway wOI-lld be made. with neiqhborhood input on a
case by case basis. Concrete walkways would be tinted to match the
adjacel':t rolled curb. Standard City sidewalk may be installed in
Barron Park on the sides of El CaminCl properties and to fill
9xistinq gaps as stated in the quidelines for standard vert-ical
cur~ and gutter described above.
Los Robles Avenue between La Donna street and Laguna Avenue has
be~n identified as a street that may accommodate an alternative
pedestrian walkway design. Alonq this section of street, Barron
creek runs in a box culvert adjacent to the roadway. The corridor
above the box culvert :may be suitable for a pedestrian 'Walk-way.
Since a walkway al,:,onq this route could be separated from auto
traffic wit..l} wooden bollards or logs, it may be feasible to
construct a deccmposed qranit-e path. Prior to pursuing this
alternative, et.aff would seek the approval of the Santa Clara
Valley Water District, who has jurisdiction over the box culvert,
and then staff would perform an analysis of th~ impacts on street
parking.
BecQm.mendatioD
staff recommends that Council 3pprove the attached -Barron Park
Drainaqa ana street Design Guidelines.-
Respectfully submitted~
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PAT STONE DAVID G. ADAMS
Acting Assistant Director of
Public Works
Director of Public Works
'~LAL~~· -.,&; ~;LEMING
Interim City Manaqer
Att~chments: A -Barron Park Map
B -Barron Park Drainaqe/street Improveme~t
Guidelines
R~lo:l.ted CHRs: 5.10:0, 600:0, 407:91
cc: will Beckett. Barron Park Association Traffic Committee
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IJMITS OF STUDY AREA
BARRON PARK 'COLLECTOR STREETS'
BARRON PARK MAP
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Attachment 8
BDlTOD Park Drainage and Street Design Guidelines
City of Palo Alto
Public Works Department
Prepal'Pd by
ClfMHILL
Oclober 1992
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CONTEN1'S
ExecuLive Summary '.
Introduction ._
2 Community Mee~ing No.1
3 Survey ' .. _ ...
4 Com munity Meeting No, 2
5 C~mmunity Meeting No.3
6 Design Guidelines
FIGURES
1 Barron Park Map
2 RQlled Cum and Vall ey GUlter
Appe!dix A. Meeting No, \ Summary
Appendix B. Sur<ey Results
Appendix C. Meeting No.2 Summary
AppenOlX D. Meeting No, 3 Summary
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Study Baekgrom,d and Purpose
In :esponse to Barron P~rk residents' obje.=tior.s to the use of City standard vertical curb.
gutter, and sidewalk in their neighborhood, the City Council directed the Pu'Jlic \'lurks
Department to work. with the community to dev~iop a set of alternative street des.igll
guidelines.
The design guidelines will provide guidance to private developers and the City !'"t!garding
acceptable designs. for drainage, \,I.:alkw"Y5, and other street features. The ,g!Jidelines will
be u!eC in the design of new developments or City projects such as repaving. drainage im
provements. and sidewalk improvements In B<:.rron Park. The guidelines are intended to
define and protect me interests of Barron Park reside"ts as local improvements .a.-:d
de .... elopment oc('urs.
The PUDlic Works Department cor;tracted wiih CH:::M HILL to ~::,ist in de ... 'cloping the
design guidelines.
O,'erview of ApproachlActh'ilies
To develop drainage and street design guidelil'les that represent community interests and
concerns, three community meetings \I,,'ere conducted and a ;nail-in que:;rionnaire survey
was developed and mailed to Barron Park residents. Based on community input from the
meetings and the survey, recClmmended design guideline.') were developed for Barron Park,
Summary of Issues
Several is-suts and concern.') were idemifitd in the tirs,t meciing There \4'3$ strong sen
timent among many at !.he meetilig th,H no changes s.hOl~ld be made in Barron Park in order
Lo preserve the existing neighborhood character. Safely and drainage '.vcre a concern for
the residents interested in some change. There ..... ',15 _,>trong opposition 10 vertical curbs and
sidewalks in Barron Park. Rolled curbs 01' vaticy gutters appeared tel be favored.
Aesthetically. while concrete was not con5idered acceptable as a constr:.JcliQn m31erial-ne'-4'
gutters and/or \\a1kways should blend with local conditions, If walkways art! to be
coll~i.dered. residt!nts ""'ere inlerested :n r.:.eandering walkway:. thdt pre~ne existing
landscaping.
The survey results also indicated that many residents favored no change to Barron Park
streets. Among those favoring some changes, drainage. ~fety, and tidier appearance were
the key issues, Survey respondents prefer:ed that any improvements be incorporaled into
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ongoing City storm drain, street resurfacing and sidewalk projects, ~,'ersus any ne''!'
program ~hich would implement improvements ::ill at once.
In the second meetirlg. priorit), issues identific.d in the survey were presented. Some
residents questioned the need for the study and design gU'ldf':line!., and some residents were
concerned about continued opponunilje~ for input d<.lring review and approval of project:'ii
designed in accordance with the guideliries. Other conc~rn-" cerltered around an interest in
more detailed information about the drainage, traffic, and safety situation; the application
of design guidelines to collector streets 1'/ersu::, local streets, and the how the str~ts were
being cL1ssified; and aesthetics..
In the third community meeling. key issu~s aJId general conditions. from the tirst two
meetings were reviewerl. and priority issues to be included in the guideljnes were identi
fied. The siJl: crileria for the implementation of the guidelines eSlablished at the me-eting
have been incorporated into the recommc:nded design guidelines. [I w ... s agreed thai Ihe
design of an actual project would be r~viewed by affected residents prior to fmalizing of
the design.
Recommendation
Based on the discussion with Barron Park residents and the input re(;ei ..... ed through surv:y
responses, the pro5ect team has developed proposed drainage and streel de-jign guidelines
for future improvements in Barron Parle The guidelines include narraljve descriptions that
provide overall guidance, intenl, and priorities when performing final project deslgn. The
guidelines also include sample drainage feature detail drawings
The guidelines can be divided into three basic sections: {l) drainage fec:tures. (3) pe
des:rian waIkways, and (3) criteria for tmplementation.
If drainagf!. improvements are to be made in "iU', area of Barron Park, rolled curbs wO'Jld
generally be used on collectors, and valley guners ge"",era:Jy be used or. IOQI streets. All
areas would have the OpliD:l to not implement any changes 10 e;<.isti!1g conditions. The
transition from existing drainage features to newly proposed drainage features is. outlined !n
lhe guidelin.es. Pedeslriall walkwd),s will ollly be :ollsidered for collector streets and then
only if the right-of-way and other physical conditions pe,mit. The six criteria for guideline
implementation provide a flexible program for the timing .and location of improvements.
Thet are designed 10 minimize impacts to resident:i and allow the community to playa key
role in making decisions regarding future impro\:-ements.
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Section 1
Introduction
Background and Purpose
During recent reviews of new developments. in Barron Park, residents Gf the OJ.rea have
expressed concerns to the City Council about the use of City standard vertical curb, gutter,
and sidewalk in their neighborhood. Responding to these concerns, thE Ccu~ciJ directed
L"'e Public Works Departmtnt to work: with the community to develop a set of alternative
drainage and street design guidelines for use in Barron Park.
The design guldelines will provide guidance to developers and the City regarding
acceptable designs for drainage, walkways, and other slrect features. The guidelmes v.ill
be used in the design of new developm~nts 0, CilY projects such <5.5 repaving. drainage
improvements, and sidewalk improvements in Barron Park. The guidelines are intended 10
define and protect the interests of Barron Park re:iidents as local improvements. and
development occurs.
Th~ Public Work.o;. Department contracted with CH2M HILL to assist in devdoping the
d~ign guidelin<!s.
Study Approach
To develop drainage street design guidelines thai represent community interest~ and
concerns, several key activities were conducted to involve Barron Park residents. An
initial community meeting ""'as scheduled to identify i-s.sues, concerns, and interestr; related
to street design. A mail-in questionnaire survey ',,"'as developed,:u,<:! mailed to Barron Park
:residents. Working with City staff, CH2M H[LL then developed preliminary street design
concepts based on concerns and issues raised at the first communi!:}" mecring and in tJ1.t
survey responses. A second community meeting was conducle.d !Co present preliminary
survey resuits and to discuss the preliminary de:,ien concepts and priorities, A third
community meeting was conducted by City staff to Identify the specific issues to be
included in the guidelines. This. report summariz.es these activities and provides
recommended drainag~ and street design guidelinr::s for Barron Park.
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Community Meeting No. I
Format and Attendance
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The initial community meeting was held al the Hoover Schoo! on Barron .A..vcnue in Barrol'l
Park on Thursd2y, March 26,1992, from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. Joe Teresi. Palo Alto PUb~lc
Works Senior Engineer, provided an overview of the prcject and the purpose of the
meeting. Mark Johnson and Charh:!'i Gardiner from CH2M HfLL led discus-~io:1 of
community issues reiated to street design. The meeting was attended by 52 ioca! residents.
The meeting summary is included in Appcndi){ A.
Presentation and Discussion
The project team presented and discussed the key issues and dements of street design
guide1ines. For each issue, discussion focused on developing a complete understanding of
Weal preferences Cbid concerns. The issues and elements discussed included these topics:
• Street Uses-Automobiles, bicycles, pedestrians, and parking
• Drainage-Local drainage and c~nr.cction to t.h::: Citywide storm drainage
sys.tem
• Aesthetics-Existing neighborhood characler, landscaping. and surface
materials
• Maintenance-Needs, costs, and owner/City responsibilities.
• Cost-Construction costs and source of fllnds
• Right-of-way-Oetining boundaries and ho\.l, to 'JSt:! availcbic right-of-way
The team then descn1>ed and discussed four alternative approaches for designing drainage
improvements at the edge of the strf'et. The four alte::rnatives were presented to describe
the range of possible approaches for discussion purposes only. The four alternatives
includOO t.~ese approaches:
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Rolled curb
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The team concluded by ex.pJaining rna: these guidelines would be applied as future projects
are implemented jrl Barron Park. These projects co:.Jld inc:ude repaving, drainage
improvements, sidewalk impro\lemcms, new deve10pments, or o:her local improvements.
Key hsues
Severa! issues and concerns were identified during the course (.If the meeting. These issues
are bfi.o!f!y presented here.
No Change
There ~dS 5uong ~ntime:1t among several residents at the meeting Ih.at no changes should
be made in Barron Park. Man), expressed that they moved to Barron Park because it is
unique in Palo Alto. They believe that the rural character and feel of the neighborhood are
alir~ve ar.d should nOl be change.j. They requested thaI the City not impose the same
standards in Barron Park thai are applIed in other pan) of Pato ."!to.
Preserve the Existing Neighborhood Character
In discussing the concern about no change in Barron Park in more cct<iil, many residents.
reemphasized the character of the neigt,bornood as atl important feature. There is a rural
feel to Barron Park that resident~ want to preserve. Important aspects of the rural feel are
the trees and landscaping. the desirab:liIy of walking through the neighborhood (m311Y take
.wening st..roIls), and non-uniform street edge treatments. Some residents noted that
puddles after rain'Storms also contribute to [he rural feel.
Safety
Many residents noted that safet) i ... an importartl consideration for some Sircets in !krron
Park. Traffic exCC"'...ding the speed limit on the busier streets. the narrowness of some
streets, and safety in the vicinity of the loca.l schools ,",cre specitical1y mentioned a~
concerns. Improve<! enforcemen! of tramc raws and better separation of bicycling and
walking from driving areas on bl!sic;-streels were suggested. Others noted that safety was
pol d concern, and tl1e ability LO walk in the street was a des.irable fe.alUre.
Drainage
Many residents noted that local drainage is a problem in Barron Park. Discussion focused
on tile need to collect water on the surface and to proyide a means 10 car:-)' the water aWJY
from areas where large puddles form. Others did not fee: Ihal drainage """0.:> a problem on
their particular street.
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Edge Treatm~nt
There was strong opposition to vertical curbs and sidl;:'W31k.s in Barron Pcirk. Then! Wai a
perception by some residenls that this. projc,ct was intended to im?J~ ~idewallcs on Barren
Parle against t1'leir wishes. Several longtime residents noted that (here was a c,ommitment
from Palo Alto during annexalion procedures that the City 'A'ou1d never impose sidewalks
on the neighborhood. ResidentS do not want Barron Park to look like the rest of ralo Alto.
Rolled curbs or valley gutters. appeared to be favored.
Construction Materials
In discussZ!1g potential ,onstruction matenais for drainage fealures ana' \I,,'alkways, resident5
at the meeting indicated thaI materials should blend with local ('onditiorJS. Vlhite concrete
is fJot an a<:ceptable material.
Other Aesthetic!;
Residents suggested that, 10 the extent possible. street designs be nonlinear. Panicujar
discwsion focu.sed on the feasibilil y of pwviding meandering walkways that pTeser .... e
existing Ia~ds.caping and are cons.istent wilh .... arying widths; of right-of·way.
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Format and Distribution
Following the initial community meeting, CH2M HILL, working with the Pubiic Works
Department, developed a mall-in questionnaire ~urvey to be dislributed to BarrDn Park
residents. The survey was cr~lIoo In ensure thaI all Barron Park residents had :l11
opportunity to provide input, t;.;pre'Ss concerns, and offer suggestions for street design
guidelines. The format of Ole survey was designed as an informal means to identify
priority concerns related to street design and preferences among possible solutions. The
survey was not designed as a scien!ifLcally accurate or stalistlcally vaJid representation of
community interests,
On April 22, the four-page sllr'"lo'ey and a cover letter from Joe Tere)i were mailed to 1,670
Barron Park households within the area delinealed on the attached map (Figure I), A
business reply return envelope was also included to further encourage responses.
Responses
By June 1st, 545 s'Urveys bad been completed and returned, Of Ihese 545 responses. 124
\lrtr-efe received from residents on the collector streets iL.. defined by the City's
Comprehensive Plan (Matadero Avenue, Los Rcbles AI,.'enue. Amaranta Avenue, Laguna
Avenue, Maybell Avenue, and Coulombe Dri'le). The remaining 421 responses were from
residents of the ot.l]er streets in Barron Park.
The results provided some additional direc!ion fer developiflg the design guidelines,
Coupled with discussions at the initial community meeting, the sur..'ey helped clarify street
design issues. The project team then developed preliminary c!esign guidelines that
combined engineering and cost factors. wilh the commlJr.!ty input rece!\'ed through ti':e
meeting and survey. The preJim 1.n.ary design gui,delmes were the topic of discussion at the
second community meeting.
Results and Condusions
The g~!!e!'al resulls and conclus.ions from the survey responses are sUIT.marized belo-.... '. The
tabulations of survey respon">es :are includee in Apper;dix B.
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No Change
Nu.merous responde:'1t'3 indicated on their sUlye)'s :hat t~ey did nO[ \I\.'an' any change to
Barron Park st~ls. Of the 545 responses. 237 (43 percem) [44 of 124 (35 percent) on
collector streets and 191 of 421 (.:l6 percept) on other streets1 ind;caled at some point on
theil survey that "no change" was their preference.
Important I~sues
Drc!lnage was cited as the most important result to to;,;: achieved through design guideline.1i.
for Barron Park streets (29:5 ye:;e)). Safety and tidi'::i" appearance also received Hrong
positive support (223 and 212 yeses, !"especlively).
Residents on "busy" streets indicated that safel), and w~lking follo\!"'ed by drainage were the
most significant results to be achieved by the guidelines, while residents of "quiel" streers
identified drainage as the most significant issue.
Street Uses
For "busy" strcelS. driving, walking, and bic)cJing were noled as the mosl important uses
(321, 322, and 3(J2 y~~s, respectively). For "quiet" S'ree!.~ walking and drainage were
listed as important BSE:S (261 and 249).
Bus)' Streets
The seven busiest streets listed by residenls included Los Robles Avenue (391), Matadero
Avenue (276}, Barron Avenue (220), Laguna Avenue (83), Amaranta Avenue (139). La
Donn. Street (103), and Maybell Avenue (85).
Drainage Control
Rolled CL:rb and valley gutter were noted as preierred drainage control approaches (243 and
247 yeses, respectively).
Pedestrian Walkways
When asked where pedestrian walkways were preferred, respondents ir1CJi..:ated two areas of
highest priority; on bL:sy streets and near ScrlOC)jS ..
Walkway Materials
No clear preference was indicated by respondents for walkway materials. Listed in order
of positive s.upport, the materials were as,phalt (21 7), concret~ {2J4J. decomposed granite
(206), and gravel (18]).
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Maintainability (307) and cost (265) were cited as the most important faclurs to con~idel'
when developirlg des.ign gUidelines.
Vertical Curbs, Gutters, and Sidewalk
Vlben asked where vertical curbs, gutters, and side",,-alk are appropriate. re:idenls noted
that they are appropriate on the sides of lots fronting on EI Camino Real (224 yeses) O(
nowhere (201 yeses).
Mai ntenance
There was strong willingness among residents to provide upkeep for {")ff--STreel parking and
walking areas (303 yeses, 181 noes).
Urgency
Residents stated a preference for making improvements as other street or drainage
improvements arc:: made rather than immediately [1031's (immediately) and 2265's (when
other improvements are made)]. The average was 3.48.
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Community Meeting No.2
Format and Attendance
The second ccmmunity meeting was held on Thursday, May 21, 1~2, at the Hoover
School on Barron .o\ven'Je in Barron. Park from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. Joe Teresi provided a
briefintrodu.ction and a review of the purpose of Lie study and the meeting. Mark Johnson
and Charles Gardiner presented the results of the previous community meeting and the
mail-in questionnaire sur.'ey and led diS(':lJssion about the preliminary street design
guidelines. The meeting was attended by 73 residents. The meeting summary is included
co Appendix C.
Presen tation
Charles Gardiner reviewed the key i .. ;sue.s and general conclusions from the fir:it community
meeting. He went on to present the preliminarj results of the survey. BaSEd on Lie initial
commuflity meeting And the survey results, the following priorit)' i!isues were identified and
presented:
• Communltywide Priorities
Maintain Existing Rural/Rust!c Feel
Minimize Change
Low Maintenance
• Priorities fOT Busy Str~ts
Safety
Drain3.ge
Walking Ar~as
Tidier Ap~rance
• PrioriLJes for Quiet Streets
Drainage
Safety
Tidier Appearance
Walking Are.:..:i.
Some residents questioned the statistical vali:::lity of the sUT\'ey results alld the advisability
of drawing conclusions from the responses. The project team reiterated thai Ihe purpose of
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the survey was [0 provide general infonnatioJ'. inp;.it, and guidance for developing des.ign
guidelines" The sur~'ey was nol intended IO be a binding vote all alt~rn~itlve~.
Mark Johnson then presented the following general goals. identified fm each slrec: design
fearure:
Landscaping
""atking
Bicycling
Drainage
Parking
Maintain e,...isting trees and landscaping
Ailow safe. efficient vehicle lrave]
Busy Streets-Create separn!e walking area 10 improve safety
Quiet Streets-Walking area can be sl"1ared with driving and parking
areas
Busy Str«t.s.-Allow for bicycling: area
Quiet Streets-Cyclists shart lOad with vehicles
Busy Streels-Rolled curb preferred to provide separation bet""een
au los and pedestriahs
Quiet Streets-VaHey gutter preferred
Low priority for change
The team then presented proposed narrative guidetines to be included as par!: of the des.ign
guidelines. The proposed narrative guidelines included these stalemenL!I:
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Maintaln exis.ting landscaping
\Vork wiLh1n e;;.isting rigr.!-of-wa}
Pa .... ement width to remain at least as wide as existing pavement
Improvements not 10 adversely affect drainage from private properties
Improvements. to be implemerltcd as pan of ongoing pr(Jjccl~
Improvements nol to be implemented in a piecemeal fa~hion, minimum one
block improvements
Transition froul EI Camino Real with vertical cl.!rb and sidewan.: to a
distance of one lot deep
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• Fill in existing gaps (one or tWO lots) of verticai cwrb and s.idewalk', do not
extend vert:cal curb and sidewalk
The team then presented two p:-oposed cross sections, one for quiet streets and one for
busy streets. General acceptance of the proposed cross sections appeared to develop,
although concerns remainoc about the need for improvements and how the guidelines wdi
be applied to speciflc sLrects.
KeJ Issues
During the community meeting, 3e .... eral issues of concern '",'ere idenlified and discu:r.;sed.
The key issues included these topics:
Study Purpose
Some residents questioned the need for the siudy and the establishment of design
guidelines. Some were concemed about continued oppo:umities for inpul during Tevje"'·
and approval of specific projects designed in accord.tnce with the guidelines.
Drainage
Some residents questioned the magnitude of the drainage problem and noted that some
simple steps may be sufficient to alleviate problems. Others noted that additional
information about drainage problems is needed and solutions must be coordlnaled ~~th the
Storm Drain Master Pian project.
Traffic and Sarety
Some resldents continued to note that there are traffic and safety concems in Barron Park.
Others noted Lha! additionaJ documentation of traffic and safety problems. is nccced.
Transi!ion from EI Camino Real
Some disC"ussion focused on the plans for transilion from curb and gutler on EI Camino
Real to an alternative drainage feature in Barron Park Gerwral consensus deveioped
around a one-lot transition area.
Application of Design Guidelines
Meth.ods for applying [he design guicielines were discussed at length. \Vhile general
acceptance of the proposed approaches s.eemed tc develop, Guestions remain about which.
streets will be considere-d busy .and which streets are quiet. In !>Orne cases, it was pointed"
out that a single street may be busy in one part and quiet in another.
Aesthetics
Many residents reiterated tr.;:J any new valley gutter:; or rolied cum'S s.hou!d be colored to
blend with ex.isting .'>l!rrolJndings.
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Community Me€ling No.3
Format and Attendailce
The third community meeting was held on Tuesday, September 29, 1992, al the Hoo·"er
School O'n Barron Avenue in Barron Park from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. George Bagdon,
Assist2.n: Djrector of Public Works, prol/ided a brief imrodu{;tion and a rel/ie","' of the
purpose of the study and the meeling. Joe Teresi presented Ihe reSlllts of the two previous
rommunity meetings and the mail-in ques:tionnaire survey and led discussion about the
recommendations for drain;;ge and street design guidelines. The meeting was attended by
62 residents. The .'neeLing summary is included in AppendLv D.
Presentation
Joe Teresi .reviewed the key i:uues and general conclusion$. from the two previolls
community meetings. He went on to present re;.:ommendalions for the drainage features,
pedestrian walkway~, and the criteria to be used to implement the design guidelines.
Abbreviated results of the survey were used to promote discussion leading to the contem of
the guidelines.
Drainage Features
Three options for the drainage feature type were discussed: rolled curb, valley gutter or
maintaining the existjng condition, In general, it was agreed that the guidelines should
provide that Jocal streets will ieceive a valley gutter and collector streets will receive a
lolled gutter. Maintaining the eltisting {;o!1dilion of a street (e.g., no drainage fealures)
will also be collsidered an option. Local residen:s will have an opportunity to review
s.pecific improvements propos...~ for a particular street hcf\lr~ the design is fmaliz-erl.
Discussion regarding the transition from existing dra;l1age features (e.g., \crtical curb and
gutter) and the color of t!le dralnage fea~ure~ and pedestrian walkways. also occurred. A
medium gray color was idenLified as most acceptable for drainage features and walkV\'a)"li.
Transition guidelines were discu~sed for areas adjacent to EI Camino Reai and areas where
vertical curb and gutter ex.ist on Barron Park streels. The result" of the discussion are
documented in the desig!1 guidetines.
Pedestrian Walkways
The discussion regarding walkways concluded with [he decision 10 consider concrete or
asphalt walkways on collector streets only jf the right·of-way ilO_Q other phys.~cal cond~tior:s
permit.
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Six criteria for the implementation of the guideii'les w~re estab!is.hed and have been
jncorporated into Section 5, De:;;ign Guidelines, of this document.
Ne"t Steps
Residents were advised that the process. and the decisions made to produce the design
guidelines would be formali.zed in a report and presented ;0 the City's fir.a.'1ce Commi!tee
on October 2J, 1992. Ifapproved, t11e Committee would Ihen recommend ['.) City Council
that the design guidelines be approved arid recogrJized .as .a guide for de~ignlng projec15 in
the Barron Park area.
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Section 6
Design Guidelines
Conclusions
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Based on the discussion with Barron Park residents and the input received through sUT\ley
responses, 'Ole project team h.as developed proposed street design g1JideI~nes for fUlure
improvements in Barron Park. The guidelines incli.:de narrdrlve descriptions that provide
o'~'el'ail guidance. intent, and priorities for tn(" design of projecls in Ba!'fon Park. The
guidelines also include sample drainage fe.ature detail drnwings {see Figure 2)_
The guidelines can be divided into Lhree basic sections: I) d;-ainage features, 2) pedestrian
walkways, and 3) criteria for implementation.
Narrative Guidelines
Drainage Features
Three options for drainage feature type an: available:
• Rolled t'Urb (generalJy on collectors)
• VaHey gutter (general~y en local streets)
• Maintain the e:<istrng condition
Drainage features shall be placed at the outside edge of existing pavemenl and within the
right-of-way in a manner that is as linear as possible and minimizes roadway narrowing or
widening.
Drainage features shall be constnJ.-:ted with conerele mixed ',\.:ith 4 pints of carbon black for
each cubic yard of concrete to achieve a medIum shade of g:-ay.
The trnnsition from existing \i'ertical curb and gutLer to newly proposed drainage features
would foHow t."ese guidelines:
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There shall be a (me Jot transition area of vertical curb and gutter along the
side frontage of properties fronting on EI Camino Real
Where vertical curb and gutter exists on Barron Park. strce!). ~t \,It.lill Dill be
ex:end~ (e.g., if a half block has vertical curb. it ~ill not be continued for
the eiltire brock).
~/here gaps in any eXiStlng vertical curb and gulter eXist, they will generally
be ftlled in with addi[ional vertical curb and gutter. The option of rernoY"lng
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existing ~tions of vertical curb and gutler will .al~ be cons.idered, subject
to a review of the amount of existing. gutler and the des.irt"s of affected
~sidents.
Pedestrian Walkways
Con<:rete or asphalt wal~'3ys will 0111)' be considered on collecfor streets and will be
constructed only if the right-of-way It!d. other physical condllior!s permit.
• Walkways shall not be placed on locai street'ii.
• Collector streets shall be candidates for walkways if there is. space ava!iable
outside the existing pavement and wilhin the City s.treet right-of-way.
• Where walkways are proposed, they shall be uniform on a given Mreet.
• WalJcv..ay material shall ~ conCl"cle o. asphall--i:oncrete waikwcys shall be
colored the same as t!1e drainage feature, The minil11Um walkway width
shall be 4 reel.
• In general. collector streets Ilear schools that serve as access to the school
shall be considered a priority location for pedesLrian w·alkways.
• Where walkways ex.ist on lQ9I Barron Park streeL .. , they will Il.Qt be
exiended (e.g., if 3 half block has a s·ldewalk, it will nOl be continued for
We entire block).
• There shall be a one lot tnmsi!ion area of walkway along the side frontage
of propenies fronting on El Camino Real.
• \\'"here gaps in any e;:;isting walkways e:c;st. they will generally be filled in
with additional walkways. The option of remDv;ng ex.isting. sec.tions of
walkways will also be considcred, subj~,:-t to a review of the amoum of
existing walkway and the dcsire~ of afft'.(;~ed residenl.~.
Los Robles Avenue between La Donna Street and Laguna Street has h¢en identified as a
]ocation that may accommodate a decomp.Jsed grdnite path due (0 ils. separation from the
roadway. Approval from Santa Clara Valley "\/at[T DISlrict would be required for lhi'i
improvement because the path wO;JJd be located within District righ!-of-way above their
box culvert.
Criteria for Implementation of Design Guide!in.s
• The City will not create a new program to construcl street and drd..inage
improvements throughout Barron F-2.rk all al once. Improvements will be
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incorporated into ongoing City s:Orm drain, street resurfl;cing, and sidewaik
projects.
• Improvements will be de5igned tel fit within exi$ling right-of-WOlY and to
minimize the impacts all existing land.s.capil1g and parking pauern!.
Pavement width :)hall remain at least as wide as e)j,j~ting pavement, where
possible.
• Improvements will be CDnSlructed on a block-b),-block bz..';.is, rathEr than in l;
piecemeal fashion.
.. Improvements will be designed so as not to adversely affect drainage from
private properties.
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Separate design gui-delines shall be applied to collettor and local streets.
The exact location and e~tent of actIJaJ improvements .. ", .. til be delermined
with neighborh()()j input on a case-by-case basis.
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BARRON PARK ·COLLECTOR STREETS.
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Appendix A
Meeting No.1 Summar)"
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City of Palo Alto Public Works Department
Barron Park Street Design Standards
Community Meeting
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AGENDA
I. Welcome and Introduction, Joe Teresi, Palo Alto Public Works
II. Project Background, Mark Johnson, CH2M HILL
A_ Project Purpose
B. Meeting Goals and Groundrules
C. ProjCJ;( Ac(ivili~s to Date
III. Street Design Issues, Charles Gardiner, CH2M HILL
A. Street Uses
B. Drainage
C. Aesthetics
D. Maintenance
E. COSt of Improvements
E Right-of-Way Issues
IV. Street Design Approaches, Mark lohnson
A. Vertical curb, guller, and sidewalk
B. Ro1led curb with unpaved parking and walkway
C. Va1ley gutter with unpaved parking and walkway
D. Ditch and culven with u!1paved walkway
V. Applying Street Design Standards, Mark lohman
A. Consider current streets and drainage
B. Major streets
C. S ide streets
D. Dead ends and cuI-dc-sacs
VI. Impiement DeSign Guidelines, loe Tere5i
A. Timing
B. Funding
C. Responsibility
VII. Conclusion and \\Trap-up, Mark lohmon
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Barron Park Drdinage Design GUidelines
Community Mee.ing No. I
MEETING DATE: March 26, 1991 LOCATIO=-:: Hoover SC1100l
DATE ISSUED:
PROJECT:
A TI'ENnEES:
April I, 1992 NOTES BY: A, Schuler
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Joe Teresi/City of Palo Aito, Public Worh
Mal! CosliganfCi!y of Palo Alto, Public Works
Mike Jackson/City of Palo Alto, Mainrenance
Mark Johnson/CH2M HILL
Charles GardinerlCH2M HILL
Andy SchuierlCH2M HILL
Barron Park ReSldenl; (Appro" 50)
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Community Meeting No. I was heJd to l're.senl to residents of Barron ParK several approaches to
Drainage Design guidelines for their neighborhood and to receive inpLit on the community's needs
and preferences,
A copy of the agemja (AI~hment A) w:;,s dlstribu~ed tll the aHer.GCes. Communit)' commcms
were noted on a b[olter, The foHowing is i1 .5ilmmary of the meeting discussion as indic.ated by
agenda item nlJmbers.
II. PROJEC1' BACKGROUND
A. CH2M HILL's involvement with the Palo Alto Stol"m Drain Master Plan was
briefly discussed.
:II. STREET DESIGN ISSUES
A. Street U ...
1. AutomobHes: Safe speeds should be maintained. School bus
speeds are also a concern, e~pecia.il/ on Maladero Avenue and Los Rabies
Avenue. Stop signs would be beneficial at some locations,
2, Bicycles
3. Pedestrians: There was. SOr:1C debate as to .... "tlether pedestrial"'. walkways are
desirable, Some believe thaI not having walkways maml.ains the rUid] fee1 of
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&rron Park. while others believe that walkways are necessary for safel~.
especially near schools and in high-traffic ar;,:a_~
4. Parking (see aesthetics)
B. Drainage
1. At some locations:
• Low spots exist.
There i~ no path for drainage.
• Dry sumps do nO! funclion properl)'.
• Subsurface drains work w:-II.
• Gutlers do not have an outlet (e.g., Solano Dr.,.
• Groundswel! is Significant and may conLribute 10 delerioration of the
roadw2Y·
• Some locations are in a Flood ZQre.
2. Drainage from residences should be accounted for in drainage designs.
3. The drainage guidelmes witI not address drainage probtems al specifiC
1ocations. Rather, the design guidelines will provide standards for future
projects which will address specific problems.
C. Aesthetics
L There was some dissention about whether on-slree: parking should be
allowed. The;e are currently some iocalions where it is not allowed. but is
tolerated. In general:
• On-street parking is ob~tftlcLive to pecfes.:nans and s.treet cle.ani!1g.
• Perpendicular parkmg is not fav(l:-ed.
• Better deflnition of parking areas is. desirable.
• Safety is.a primary COfjcem.
2. Generally. re~idents felt thaI (;oncrete sidewaJks .are not desirabk because of:
• Conlribulion to uniform, urban appearance
• Color
• Ve rtic-al curbs
• Straight lines
• Appearance of being too format
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The Cil), agreed not [0 impose vertical curb and side',l,.'alk when Barron Park
was incorporated into [he City of Palo AllD. S~"eJ.jl residents noted that
traffic and population demit;,' :tave inCTe..:lSed since that rime. Better
defInition of wa1.k.ing areas may be req,uired at some locations.. Alternative
m;;il.erials and meandering 5idewalks are po:-isible approaches.
3, Desirabfe characteris.tics include:
• Large setbacks
• Trees
• Lack of uniformity (maintains a rural feel)
• Continuous walking palhs
• Flexibility
• ConsLstency
4. Undergrounding of utliilies is pan of an em-going program being
implemented by the City independeiitJy of the currer.t projecl.
D. Mai ntena",::e
I. Maintenance requirements s.houJd be considered.
2. City and propeny own.er's roTes. in main1.enance should be defined.
E. Cost or impronments
J. Costs of alternative designs should be considered.
F~ Rlghl~of~way issues and unifonnir,' or design guidelines
1. Four alternatives are possible for dealing with varying right··of-\Io."ay:
• Use narrowest availabloe rigtt--of-wa),.
• Leave out sidew;;.lks, bike lanes, or parkmg areas to match existing
right-of-way.
• Purchase nght--of-way. (The Cily docs not consider this an option
be:ause of Lhe time in .... olved and the costs ofacqulring righ,··of-wc-:.y).
• Vary widths of traffic. parking, and ..... ·alking lanes wlth varying righl
of-way (suggested b)· a residenq.
2. Different streets have different uses/needs. The design guidelines should
provide flexibitity in their appllcalion, especially in the area between t11e
drainage feature and the edge of right-of-way. Variation/diversity of
streets/properties is a particular value of Barron Park.
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3. Uniformity would help solve drainage probl~ms..
4. Property lines are often poorly defined. The OT)"S tirs.! step sholiid be to
define right-of-way and property tines.
lV. DESIGN APPROACHES
A. Four po~.s.jtJle design approaches were presenled. Copies of each approach were
distributed to [he attendees (Attachment B).
1. There was not a consensus '4..'> to the most desirable of the design approaches
pre~nted. It was noted that a vertical curb provides the best drainage and
the greatest safety_ Drainage dite-Mes have the greatest maintenance
requirements.
2. The rolled~urb and valley guner approa.ches to be fa ... 'ored.
3. Weed gn.'wlh and mud on unpaved wa!kloll.'ays is a concem. Decomposed
granite and other materials should be considered for parking and ~atk.ing
areas.
4. Boundaries betwc!eo uses should be defined and enforceable.
5. Handicap access is impoonant.
V. APPLYING STREET DESIGN ST .... ND ... RDS
A. Flex.ible appiication by area is. desJrdble.
VI. IJ\IPLEMENT DESIG!\' G VIDELINES
A. Timing: The design guideline proJecl does not include a !tCheduJe for sper.;ific
improvement projecls. Improvements ...... 111 be made gradually. poos.s.ibly as part of
projeus recommended in Storm Drain Master Plan.
B. Funding: The residents of Barnm Park are currently payin,g for drainage
improvements. through their storm drainage utility fee-. The City does not plan to
create an Assessment District to pay for improve:nents.
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1) 7:00 p.m. was. early for at ieasl one resident; we should consider :'"Iaving the nexi mecttng
la1er.
2) The survey should ask residents to prioritize use5., such as parking and ~cslri~ns, as wen
as other is..<;ues, such as safely and preservation of trees.
3) The survey should be tabulated. by address. This. will facilitate determining varying needs.
by area.
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Suney Results
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A summary of the survey results is included in Ibis .!)Cction. The s.ur\'t'y ..... ·'as. mailed to
1,670 Barron Park residents. A total of 545 responses were :-cceived (124 from res.idenls
of collector streeLo;; (Matadero Avenue, Los Robles Avenue. Amaranta Avenue, Laguna
Avenue, Mayben Avenue, and Coulombe Dr:ve) and 411 from residents of other streels.
Readers should note that of the 545 surveys.. 237 (43 percent) indicat<:d at some point on
their survey that "no change" was their preference [44 of 124 (35 perCe'll) on collec!or
streets and 193 of 421 (46 percent) on other streets.].
]1] reviewing the resull.,S, readers should note that the survey asked the respondent to leave
blank any items com;idered not important or nol applicable. Therefore, the number of noes
recorded does not necessa."i:ly indicate that respondents 1I0[ed against that item; .some
respondents may have left it blank for other rea..~ms: 1t is therefore not appropriate 10
compare the number of yeses atld noes to determine a commulllty -\lote" on thaI item.
The most appropriate interpretation of the "-esults is to examine the degree and strength of
positive response for each ~Iem. The degree (If positi\,t s.upport is. indicated b) tnt: lumber
of yeses indicated by respondents (total nLimber of rankings or checks) for each item. The
strength of positive suppOrt is indicated by the average ranking; the lower the average rdJ1k,
the more people rated that item as important (l =most important).
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April 22. 1992
Dear Barron Park Resident:
The city of Palo A.ltc Public v.'or'ks Departrr;ent is in the process of
developing a set of street/dr-ainage guidel ines for the Ba:ron Par~:
neighborhood as p.art of its storm Drair1age Master Plan. The
guidelines ara intended to establish the structural and aesthetic
s"td.!"'ldards for future street and drainage iI:1proverne-nts in Barron
Park:. The enclosed survey is your opportunity to provide input to
the development of these guidelines.
I'm sure that most of you ...... ould ~gree that Barron Park has a
distir.ct lOOK and feel. Over the years, there has been vocal
opposition against standard c!Jrb, gutter, and side,.,aD:, but no
clear alternative design has been agreed upon. The City Council
has asked Public Works staff to ... !ork ..... ith the Barron Park comrnuT'lity
to develop a set of street and drainage guidelines for the
neighborhood. The developwent of these g~idelines ~ill not change
the look. of Barron Park: over!"light. Rather they .. ill be
implemented over time as other City proje:::ts (drain·3.ge
iroprovements, repaving, utility ~ork, etc.) are constructed in the
area.
Because we want to be sure that the design guidelines are
consistent with neighborhood values at"d concerns, we are actively
seeking public input through a series of com~unity meetings ar.d -3
written questionnaire survey. We received preliminary input fran
Barron Park resident.s at the first community meating on J1arch 26.
The enclosed surJey is intended to provide everyone in Barron Park
an opportunity to help dp.velop the guidelines. We will be holdjng
another community meeting or. May 21 at. 7:00 at the Hoo'Jer Sebeol
(800 Barron AVenue) to discuss the results of the survey and to
refine the design goidelines. The guidelines .... ill be revie'>,"ed
fu~ther by the Finance Committee of the City COlJncil and e,,'entually
will be approved by the full Council.
Please take a few ~oments no~ to fill out the enclosed
questionnair-~ and return it irl the postage-pa id envelope by MAY 12.
Your input can help tc ensure that future street and drainage
improvemen~s in Barron Park will maintain the unique feel of the
neighbortJod.
! f you ~ ave any quest.ions, please contact Matt Cost igan il"'. the
Public Works Departr.'lent at 329-2469. Thank you for your
cooperation and interest in the future of BarroD Park.
SincerclYI
~,7~ foe Teresi
Seni.;:,r Engineer
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Barron Park Questionnaire ~. ~
1h: Chy ')f Palo Alto Public ·"'orks Department i.> deve1cping new drcinage and: street design slan:jaros for the
Barren Park area. We are inrereste<f in ht.aring your vlews about dralnaJe and stree( design fearures. PLEASE
COMi'LETETHIS BRIEF SURVEY AND RETURN IT IN THE ENCLOSED ENVELOPE BY MAY
UTI!. Th!lIlk you fo;-your time.
1. What is the nam<' of your street? _______ _
What is the nearest cross street?' ______ _
2. What are the most signiiicant results to be e.chieved by a set of street and drainage
design guidelines. Please rank the following issues according to )~ur .... j~. of lhclr impc:x1.arlU as rc.>uTLS 10 ~
.ach~v~. (1 '" Highest prio:'it)'. leave blank. any)oo ra:l do fIOI. need [0 be ac1dres.'Ol'.d)
Your Street
_ r>esignaLicn or parking arc:-1S
_ Improved drainage
_ Cre&ti{)n of wa1k:ing area
_ CrcaLion of bicycling area
_ Impro,'oo safelY
_ Conslstl"ftll'l,:ighborhood appear.Joce
_ Definition of CIty malll[C!Wlce limits
_ Tidiar neighborhood .appearance
__ Olher (~clry) __ _
Ban'!):::! Park as a whole
_. [)e<;igrlatioo of parking arc"H
_ Improved drainage
_ Cn:atii)f" of 'lll<alkmg .are.a
____ CrcaLion of hie ycling ar{'.3
__ lmprovcd safety
_ Consisteni l){'.igtlbort"X>J aPJ-~.u.arx:e
_ Definition ol CiLy rrainlenan("..e limits
_ TLdi.e.r neighborlloo:! a.:::opear.dnce
_ Other (<<peeify) _
3. What are important uses of Barron Park strcch? Please. ran~ lhe ro,lo .... ·lng SlI'CCt elcmclilb. in l(:nn~;
of lhcir n:laJ..i"c imponance LO you (l '" Highest pnoriLY,lc.a\,!.': blall!. an}' }'vu rcd should nor b.-: ~OVlOC,j)
Your Street-
_ PedcsL-i.an walk:\Io-ay
_ Dri ... ing tanc-s
___ Paj'i<ing atC'--1
Drainage coniiol
Other (spc-of.\') _____ _
"Busy" Streets
Pedcs(!ian waIkwaj'
Dri\'jrj~ LlI1cs
f>-'..ukirtg area
_ !)raj n.:lgc: en,,1 rnl
_ BIcycle blK"/p::llh
_ ____ OlllCf {specify'.!
"Quiet" Streets
_ Dn~'ing lanc~
P.m,ill~ area
DiainJ~C conu-o!
B I{ yde lane/path
List :s.t.reets in Barron Park that you consider "bus-y". ______ _
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4. What art: acceptable drainage control appt"oachcs in Barro:l Park1 P~a<)e rank yOW"
prefm:nc:es for draina,ge C(";illl'02 approa.:hes. (I ",. Mo~t prererred, teavt blank any )'Oll fee: s~ould net be-u..<:ed)
_Rolloo curb ~
Example: Maybell Avenu.e aloog Jllan.J. Briones ParI; bC'.lwCC.ll
Clemo Avenue and Coulombe Drjvr:.
E:J..aITlp:c: Dri;coll Court (orr "'tarbell A venul" ncar Donald Dri\'c)
--Valley gutter ~ Example. Maybell Avenue hC't .... (';(".n Thain W<J)' dnd Raker AVl!fluc
__ No change
_ 0"", (spodfy) _____ _
5.. Where are pedestrian walk~'ays appropriate in Barron Park? (Chc:..:k all t..~al olpplj')
_ On ~ Stret'.ts
Near schools
To complete uisting waft.wa)'s
_ 0I.hct areas (spedf)') _____ ~~_
Nowhere
G. What are appropriate materials for walkways In Barron Park? r:ca~ l.lllk y,1Ur
prcic.reoces roc walkway n1;:1lcrials. (j :0 Most prdcrrc.j, kavc blJ.!J~ 'HI)' you (c('i ~h{)uid not Ix. u::c.J ,I
Cone ....
_Asphail
Gravd
__ Dccomposc.d' gramtc
_ Other (:qx-,cify) __
7. What are important factors when creating a design guideline for pedestrian walk
ways? P1::a::se nuU:: dlC follOwing faclOl"!l in k':nns of their relative im~e 10 YOt:.ilt1d I~t your prererence. ir ally.
under e:.IICh faclOr. {E :: Moo imponant)
Factor Preference
Colo<
Te).tlIe
___ Maintainabllity
_ Lineae (ex-noo-tinear).appearance
_Othoc<_ify) __________ _
8. Where are standard vertical (""Urbs .and ~idewalks appropriate in Barron Park?
_ "To COO'.J)lne blocks Wz:1. alrtaO)' I\a'le ~s or "erucal curb am.:! sidc\l.'al\.
_ On sides cJ properties along El Cami roo Real
_1"0""'=
_ Othoc (specify)
9. Should the design guidelines include some provision for the physical definition {e.g.
border of boulders, concrete or wooden strip) of (1) the edge of the City right-of-way,
and (2) the limjt of City maintenance responsibility (if different froID the City right.
of-way Line)?
Right-of-way linc
y"
No
Limits of' Cit~, maintenance
10. Are you willing to maintain and provide upkeep for parking and/or walking areas
within the City right..or·way in front of your home?
Yes
No
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11. Right-of-way widths in .barron Park vary widely, even witt!in an individual block.
How should the design guidelines handle this variety of right-of-way widths:?
~ (Check yo:lur preferen~)
"The width 01. ~t/d.rainage-improvementS on 2!l individLIa1 block SOOlJlC be uniform and should be as
wide as me narruwesl section of ti-.ru bloclc
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TIle widlh of sueetldr"ainage improvemo:nLS shoold take ad c'3nLage of existing right of-,,\i<ly and Val)' in
J!ccordarce with tile avai.1abk righl-or-w.l.Y,
12. Please tell us how soon you believe improvements should be implemented in Barron
Park.. (Circle-, the apprurria1e numbcr)
Immediately , Whell other projCCl'i are o:m"tructcd
(e.g., !;G"{'.<"{ rcpa.ing, dr3.ma~c implQ\llCmCflLS, CLe.)
13_ Ple.ase provide an)'" ot.her <.",omrnent:; about drainage and -stTt.~t design guidelines in
B :lrron Park.
PLEASE USE THE ENCLOSED RETURN ENVELOPE TO RETUR1\ THE
SURVEY llV MAY 12TH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
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Barron Pa .... Survey Results
2-What ar~ the most slgnlficant results: to be acrue\'/"d by a se! ofsfre-et and drainage design
guideli .... ?
The strength of positive support is indicated by average ranking; the lower the
average rank the more people rated !hat iteM as important (I =most important).
RaidtaU of Col1et1or Streets Resideatll
TOOl! tr...., N
Yes No A"" Iv" No Avo
Yo.rStrftt
PartiDg: 3l ~;I~ >
114 3<J7 ~~! Dninage kji ~, 19! ..t,~Z
1Valkin& :-~p?1l !~) 110 3IL [[56 ,
Bioyd"" 39 85 2,' SS JJ) 3,83
Safety f:j}b7J ilii 'W 27' ~
Coo5istcncy 401 84 2,7--1 l'S4 -267 2,86
MainIenaD« 3<J !J4 4.23 f-j~, 320 4,02
Twlle< t~ p78 2." ~ 272 2.98
No Change 12 ,~
00...-17 .,
Barroo ......
Pul<iog 2B 96 3.33 ;~ 307 J"~
Dr:aina&e V~ .2 iJ2-' IS< i"14'
WaDdng ... 80 2.ll 277 ~, ,44 I if, Bi~ ., 82 It1f m 288
s.fOt)-:j!} :m .1 ' ,,~ 25J iUj,'
CORSisten<y 41 83 2~ ~ ,.,. "" Maintena:na: JJ 9' ~.ll J~ 316 4.29
TlidJer 4ll s.; 2 3-1 249 ),12 -No Chang< 10 2'1 Other 8 JJ I
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.3-Wbat are important uses of Barron Park stfl!(!lS'
Taul.
ToW AVE
Y" 1'00 R.1T\l;
J.1.-YOQr Strett
Walkway
Driving
PIDJng
Dntinoge
Bicycle
No Cflange 28
00>er l<J
38-BIII)' Sh-eet
Walkway t:~~ 223
Driving ~
Patkit\g 207
Drainage ;.67
Bicycle ,~ lUi
No Clwoge 1~'
0II>e>" 9
Je-Quk<Stn<1
WaJnay :161.
DrMng -118
Patting 18]
Dr2i""F ---249,
Bi<:Y<" ~< 3JQ
NoCbon$e 2.
O<bcr 5
3D-Which streets do you consider busy?
Tot.!s
To<aI
),,,,
Los ROOt", 391
Maladeto 2i6
Barn>o 220
Laguna 18J
""""""'" 13.
Lo Dc .... 103
Ma)t>ell 85
Coulombe 11
No""
011><, 36
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4~What art' acceptable drainage control approaches for Barron Park?
Totals
TotdJ Ayg
Yes No R;ml
VcrticaJ Curb 151
RoUc:d. Curb :-243
Valley Gur'..er [>-ffi
D;!Cb ~ Culvert ~
No Change _~
Othe< 35
394 2,1
302 ~
298 '2<'i
396 ~Li,
361 '::::TIl
S--\Vhere are pedestrian walkways appropriate'?
AD S<=<s
Busy Streets
Near Scboo[s
Comp E:'\:i§ling
No.-_
0Iher
TO'.a]
Yes
TOCa"
6-Vt'hat are appropriate materials for walk'W'3ys in Barron Park?
T .....
iTotaI Avo&-
Yes No Rook
CoocTete p--~ HI ,12-·
Asphalt 11 328 1.8
0--.1 f'---'jii3 362 2""
Dcr;. Granire rd~ 339 ----~?~
Nom: 38
0Iher ,.
7~\\onat are lmportanr factors when creating a dE-sign guidefine for wa1kways'1
Totals
ITotaI A'·g
Yes No R:o.ilk
Color -~;; 388 ~-~ Texture ' 21 m '1""2
Maintainability >-jij'. 238 ~4! CO>! I~. 280 2.2
(Non )Linear 1~]j9 ll!<i 2,i(
None I 31
Othe, I ..
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· ~;r <
-.,-~ .. -.~
'"""'" :0, oJ ' ".'
!!!:-W'herc are s!andard vcnical curtl:-; 311.3 <,.idl:\L~I~<,. .1rrroJirialt.!"
1 C'JI ah
JTCl..a;i
lY'" I
To oompleu 187
E1 Camino Side :::;---214 '
Nowhere ? 10 j J
O<he> -'3\
9-Shoold the design guidelines include defl;lilion of bound aires"
Totab
Total
Ya No
Right-or-Wa)' 205 '-'} U;
Edge Qf Mainl-e 216 ''-li~ ,----No R«ponre 129
Q<he. 12
/
JO-Areyou willi.'1g to m.1inrain and pm ... ide upkeep for parking and walkjn,g areas
Totals
fT,o,lal ..-.-b'es N<!
I I-How should design guidelines h2ndle \'ariations in rign!-(Jf-way?
Ftl Narrowest
Adjust 10 Fil
NoC~ngl"
Other
TOUlI
Yes
(~~-?!:
166
H
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Total~
12·How soon s}muld improvements be implemented';
Residents ranked timing ofimpfemen.ting improvements by I "'"immediately. and 5-"'when other
projects are comp[eted'
TotSlh
Number
O-lmmediatel ... ) Ranked
49;
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Appendix C
Meeting No.2 Summary
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City of Palo Alto Public Works Department
Barron Park SInd Design Standards
Community Meeting
May 11, 1~2
Agenda
L Welcome and lotroouctlon~ Joe: Teresi, Palo Alto Public Works
A-Project Background
B. M,~eting Goals
C PrDject Activities to Date
n. l'riorit)llssue5, 0.,1e< Gardiner, CH2M HILL
A. Fml Public Meeting
B. Survey Results
C. Commul1ityowjde Issues
D. Busy Streets
E. Quiet Streets
IlL Priority Uses. Mark Joonson, GUM HILL
A. Driving
S. WalKing
C Bicycling
D. Drainage'
E. Parkins
[v. Design Featur~.s.
A. Landsc.ap;ng
B. Driving Lanes.
C. Wanting areas
D. Bicycling
E. Drainage
F. Parking
V. Narrative Guideilnes
VI. Preliminary Cross-sec,iotlS
A. Busy Streets
B. Quiet Streets
VI1 Conclusion and Wrap-up
MEETING MINUTES
MEETING ATTE:'IDEES: Joe Teresi, City of Palo At'"
Matt Costigan, City cf PalL1 AIIO
Mark John",n, CH2M HILL
Cb.,les Gardiner, CH2 M HILL
Leslie Regos, CH2M HILL
Barron Park Residents (lIs.t attached)
MINUTES BY: Lesli~ Regos.
DATE: June II, 199;
SUBJECT: Barron Park Community Meeting, May 21, 1992
PROJECT: SF032749.BP,30
Introd uction
CHMi-i11l
The meeting began with an introducLion given by Joe Ter:si. Joe e;(plair.~.d that the reason
for holding a communit), meeting was that Ihe Clty Council had dire<::led the Publk Works
Department to determine the oommuni:y's needs and preferences for guidelines for future
street improvements. Council requested the study bec3use BaiTon Park residents have
objected to City staffs recommendation for inclusion of Cit)' standard vertical curb, gutter,
and side"Walk in recent development p!ar,s.
There are (! wide variety of street designs in the neighborhood at pre~nt. The intent of the
guide-lines is to ensure thai new development and paving, drainage, or utility projects in
Barron Park produce street cross sections consistent with. local preference~,
The iast community meeting ',vas held on March 26th. foEowin,g that meeling, a stJlvey
~as mailed to approximately 1670 commun:ty members. As of May 18th. 505 had been
relUmed.
Community Issues
Charles Gardiner reviewed the results of Ihe first community mee:.'lng and the survey.
From the first community meeting two issues appeared to be most important to Barron
Park residents: U) Maintaining the rural feel, withoul adding uniformity to the area and (2)
Safety of pedestrians and cyclists, panicurarly on the busy streets. \A."as. voiced as a concern.
The tablJIation of the survey was. divided by ·collector slreets· (the busiest streets) and
·other streets." The resulls indicate that residents. on the collector st;eel.!-were most
concerned with safety, and residents of the other stre-el.s fell drainage was a priority issue.
Following are some comments regarding [he analY5is of the sur.'e.;.' data and communil)'
isslJes.
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• It is not a sdenlitic ar.alysis ar.d as s'Jch, the results sho~ld only be
considered as gt:nerJ.I trends or preferences as opposed to providing
definitive results w!lh documented stati:;tical signiticance.
• The survey did not clrarly provide a choice for no ch.t'rlge.
• Whe.i Barron Park was annexed to Palo Allo t'nere were firm commiimen!:!I
that no sidewalks or vertical curbs. would be built.
• The I'lced for drainage improvements was identified by re~idents in man)
areas of Barron Park,
• Many other residents fet; that drainage was flne and puddles after rainsto:ms
are a benefit to the communily.
QuestiCln:
\-Vho came to Council to recommend street improvemellt ,guidelines?
Answer:
Some local residen1.5 have complained about side'M.alk designs for recent
development proposals in Barron Park. The Council then dire.:ted Public Works to
work with the community to develop some alternative design guidehne-s..
Question:
How can we make all improvements at one time to cause as little incon .... enience and
disruption as possible to the neighborhood?
Answer:
The intent of the ~'Jidelines is (0 coordinate an,Y jmpro ... cm~llb with OIher projects
to avoid digging up streets severaJ times,
Question:
Wllat types of drainage options are there?
Answer:
Vertical curb, rolle;j curb. valley gutter. and ditd'" and culvert are Ihe four choices
of drainage control that were presented at the first comm'u.nii;.-meeting,
Question:
Can we have drainag.e in the center of the streets'!
Answer:
It is not safe to dri .... e when dminage is running down the middle of !.he roadway.
Ultimately, dri',ing safely is. a priority on (he Slreets,
Question:
\\on) were drainage a;1d sidewalk issues combined on the sur.cy and al these
meetings?
Answer:
Drainage and waJkway is::;ues are closeij reIaleO in ma::;! cases beCil.ll!.e the drainage
feature at Ihe edge of the stree, must provide a trCinsition to the walkway area,
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Question:
Are specitic drainage prohlems; identified in Barron Pmk?
Answer:
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The City has recei-."ed comp:aints about several drainage problems and the Storm
Drain Masler Plan will identif), in gre,:.rer detail the iT1ajor dra:l1ag~ impro\,C'ments
needed in the Barron Park area.
Question;
Who pays for [he street and drainage impmvements?
Answer:
No new costS will bt: incurred by the homeowner. Future improvements would be
paid for by the developer. or through existi.ng City re,venue if they are part of City
paving, dr-otinage, or utility improvement proj~lS.
Question:
Will Were be impro\'emenls to address the flooding?
Answer:
Th"!re are two steps necessary 10 addre.ss flOoding. Collection of surface water 10
several p:>ints and the removal of the runoff through subsurface pipe'ines. The
street design guidelines wit] particularly address the surface wa!er collection. The
Master Flan is addressing major pipeline needs,
Question:
h tJ'1ere a map showing drdinage improvement:; proposed in Ihe r.,·1aster Plan?
Answer:
Tre Masler Plan is still being developed so maps are net yet availabie.
Charles Gardiner further summarized the resurts of the first commilnity meeting and survey
as follows:
• Or. z. communit),-wide level, maintaining the exLc;.ting rural/rustiC feel 10 the
area, minimizing change, and reducing mairil.:'oallCe by both City and
residents 'Were the highelit priON).
$ For busy streets.. safety, drainage, walking areas, and tidier appearance were
identified as high priority issues. They are listed in order of preference.
• FOT quiet stre.ets, drain2ge. safety, tidier appe.arance. and walking areas were
priority issues.
Que.'lItion:
Safety is an issue, but is there any data comparing safety in Barron Park to safety in
other areas of Palo Alto?
Answer:
A study is in progress on the safety of bl(."ycles, pedestrians, and cars in part of
Barron Park and thc surrounding arf',J.S becau5e of the CaItrain accident.
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i After some concerns from the communilY about th: need for guidelines. the proJe.ct l.ed.m
reitemtod that the purpose of the gl!idelines is .so the Cit)' can give guidance about what a
developer mayor may not do ....... hen constructing in the Barroo Parl.: are..a--They are being
proposed to prol~·t the community's i!1teres!.
De.ign Features and Issues
The team presenroo a list of features and issues developed from comtnl.!nity re5ponses.
Landscapjng
Drivjng
WallUng
Bicycling
Drainage
Parking
Question:
Maintain existing trees. and lanjs.:aping
AHa\\' safe, efficil:n! vehicle travel
Busy Streets-Create separate '\O\:alking area to improve safety
Quiei Streets -Walking area can be shared .... i!h dr~"'it'!g and parklng
.reas
Busy Streeis-AJlow for bicycling area
Quiet Srree~-Cyclists share road with \.'ehic!es
Busy Streets-Rolled curb preferred 10 pro .... ide separaliun between
autos and pedestrians
Quiet Srreets-Valley ,guner preferred
Lo~, priority for chang,<!
How do the numbers from the survey tabulation support these findings:
Answer:
The survey results were nOi analyzed: the first communi!} meeting and res-ulls (If
the survey were used to get a general feellng of what ",,'err;;: the most important
issues to the community_ The presentation heie is intended to move tov.."2Id
consensus and develop guidelines that are acceptable to Barron Park residents.
Question:
\Vill we: jose ill1Y part (If our yard and t"ees if a separate bike and pedestrian
\W3Jk'Way are bu:lt along the ruadway?
AnS\ller:
We want to m~nimjze the changes OIl U"IC street right..of-ways and the City does not
intend to purchase additional right-cf-way_ Maliltaining the prc)er.t landscape is a
priority to the City,
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Comment:
Consider olle-way traffic in selected areas.
Question;
In reference to a question on the survey regarding the g:.J i dei;l1cs for physical
appcara:n!.."e of the walkways, what is non-lil1ear?
Answer:
A meandering walkway that would folloN the existing curves. and contours of the
ngnHlf-way.
Question:
[f a street is not wide enough for a sidewalk on either s,dc, CaIl a sidewa1k be
placed on one side of the roadwdY and nol the other:
Ans"tVer:
Yes, that is possible.
Question:
As a design thai was not offered 3S a choice Oll the sur-vey, how about usmg a
covered ditch and culvert for drainage improvement?
Answer:
That approach would require construction of a cor.crele·lined channel covered with
a continuous grate, which would be very cost!),.
Proposed Narrative Guidelines
The project team Iheo presented proposed fl.amlli .... e guidelines for !j,lreet improvements.
• Maintain exisling landscaping
• Work within existing right-of-way
• Pavement width to remain a~ least as \oI.'ide as existing pa .... ement
• fmprovements should not adversely affect drainage from pm2.!c
properties
• Improvemems to be implemented as pan of on-going projects
• Improvements not to be implemented in a piecemeal fashioll, minimum one
block improvements
• Transition from EJ Camino Rea] with verticai curbs to a rl,s,tancc of one lot
deep
• Fill in exisling ,gaps of vertical curb and sidewalk; do no'. extend vertlcal
curb and sidewalk
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Comment:
ft is Illegal to park on the sidewalk:£.
Questk,o:
Is there a timeline for these s!:-eet and drat!1age impro','emenls to occur?
Answer:
No. As change and development occurs, the guidelines 1I..,1!1 be for the d~sir:g of
those proj eels.
Qu('~tion:
On the tnns.ilion from EI Camino in!o Barron Park, you sound pro-sid~walk.
Answer:
Safety is an issue at tilal particujar spot. A curb one lot deep provides a safe
transition area.
Question:
Wlly must sidewalks or curbs be extended {off of El Camino):
Answer:
Again for safety reasons t.~ere should be a place for pede~trians to stand and wait to
cross roadways. A curb helps guide cars tuming the comer and protects the
pedestrian walkway.
Comment:
Children <::rossing the .meet have no place to stand and wait for crossing or buses.
The residents gener.s.lly accepled the proposed one 101 transilion art'..a from curb to Barron
Park design. The lot thm fronts EI Camino Re.al is. typically used as commercial pmperty.
Question:
WHi the streets around the Matadero Creek projecl be rep:;. .... 'ed when the project is
complete?
Answer:
The Santa Clara VaJley Water District will be respons.ible for the repaving of any
di~.tr.:rbed roadways or w.alk'.'l·ays..
Comment:
There are only 6 problem areas. for drainage in Barron Park and these are pa'1: of
the Matadero Creek maintenance.
Comment:
Place a few strategic drains only whtre drainage is a problem and flll in the lo\.\,
spots that collect run-ofL
Comment:
You need 10 look at ihc aes.thetics of the neighborhood, like parking and issues
other than drainage, Why nut plH the money info improving on other areas?
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Question:
Can you mail the results back to U~?
Ans-.ver:
W~ will mail the resula 10 those of you here who~ addres~s we have from the
sigr.-in sheet, and we will also provide the re~I!Il5 in [he homcO'.~'J1er·s group fOi use
in the newsletter.
QLj..estion:
Can you have a 5to~mdrai.'l without curbs and sidewalks:'
An~wer'
Yes. however the systtm is not as effecti,,'e withoL:t solTle means. to collec! and
direct the flow, such as gutters or curbs.
QuestiOil:
If you put a curb Ln, it will not blend with the driveway bf"{'a:Jse of the hr.ight
changes.
Answer:
Some treatment IJ!' grading oehind the curb will be provided,
Comment:
I feel that I could h$\oe said ~No chargt:" throughout tile survey and r did not.
Question:
What is this mention about the F1I1dnce Committee reviewing the ,guideline!.?
Answer:
The Finance Committee of the City Council wili re-vie')'" and hear comment on our
suggested g\J\deIines and then make a rec<'mmenda.tiofl ~o the full Cvunci!. The
City C01Jncil will make the final decision on the .adoption of the design guidelines.
Question:
Will we be notified of the Council Meeting?
An.swer:
We are on the Finance Committee ager-da for Ju1y 14th. olhenl.;ise n0 additiori:3.r
mailing from the City is planned.
Question:
]s the treatmer.t at the edge of ~he pave-men( cOMidered a guideline?
Answer:
Yes.
Comment:
There is a map from a previous. master pJan that shows. the draInage probleO'1s in the
area. you need to reference thai map.
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Proposed Guidelines (or Quiet Sf.eets
The project team pre:>ented preliminary gUloehnes. for quit.·' streets. Key fe2ll1re~ include
concr~te valley gutters, unpaved walking and parking areas, and no bicycle lanes
Question:
'What material will be used for the vall:y gUller?
Answer:
Concrete.
Question:
WHI water rema!r. standing above the gutter?
Answer:
The gutter will be on a constant slope so the water will draill tu coilecrion points.
Question:
How would you connect the orainage system with the gutter?
Answer:
The Stonn Drain Master Plan is examining drainage sys:em needs and collection
points throughout Palo Allo. Connections Iypically would be via a catch basin
connected to a belo'W-ground pipe.
Comment:
You have no proof that you will be reducing the 1m .. " POlnlS by adding Ihl;!se
improvements.
Question;
Why change the materiai to concrete and not keep the as.ph2.Jt'?
Answer:
COI1crete provides a more dunble :mrface and edge, The corrcrete can be colored
an earth tone so it would blend beuer wi~h the Tand~aping.
After some discussion, the residents "Iiere in g:'nerJ.l agl~emen, w;,h the pro;Klscd
guidelines for quiet streets. There .... ·'ere specific rt:que.;;ts that cOrl-:"ruclion lJ1ater;a~s be
selected that will brend \Iillh toeal surroundlngs (con..:rele sl-Jould be cQloreJ and texturee"
not white),
Proposed Guide[ines for Busy Streets
The project team presenled preliminary guidelines for busy streets. Key fe.atures include
rolled curbs, l1ard surface walking areas, and bicycle laries where sufficient right-of-way
exists.
Que-mon:
Where is there suffii;lent righl··af-way 10 use this c()mbinat~on of features?
Ans",",,'cr:
Tne combination of fealUres would adju5t to match [he exi~l;ng rig'II·(1f-way.
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Que.!:tion:
We have been trying to establish bike :anes on Los RobJe\ but there is not :=-nougll
space. We have been lold that we C<irlno! have bike lanes in or:!.,.. Olle direction:
there must be dual bike lanes.
Answer:
3ike lanes would be proposed in pairs.
Question:
It seems like the rolled curb wOldd result in a raised walk",·ay.
Ar:swer:
The street would be g:-aded to avoid G !"aised walkway from the edge of the
property.
Question:
In places where I have seen these rolled curbs and walkways, cars. park straddling
the curb.
Answer:
Some education and enforcement would be f1eeded 10 retrair; people how to use and
treal these curbs and walkways. Wil"l'-.oL!! a vertical curb, there will be some
parking outside the rolled cu rb
Question:
Where would the division of the rolled curb and valley gutter be defined frorn busy
streets to q:..:i::t stie.ets.?
Answer:
There would be a transition distance where the curb would gradually slope from a
vaIley gulter to a rolfed curb or vice '.'ersa.
Concerns with the proposed design on the busy streets were thai parking would occur on
the \\-aIkway (i.e. cars parked straddling the rolled curb), the amount of right-of-way
available on each street, and the definition of busy .... 'ersus. quiet streets.
There was some discussion about the definition of "collector (or busy}" ~treet5 and "q<Jiet"
s.treets and the piOposed locations where the gl.'jdeli·nes would be applied. Foi1owing are
some commenl~ that Teside:nrs h)d regardirg this topic,
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Should the designation be made <!:ccording to the tianic count only? "fau
can't use just cars to defif1e how "busy" a strter is..
Laguna is nal just a "busy street". l! is nice for ]X>destriall5 and bicyclists..
Puddles do collect on the street.
There is no bike area on Laguna.
• I see a problem with a. rolled curb on narro'.\' streets. YOLI would need a
walking area.
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• We should do a foHow up with the traffIc experts who are performing a
study of vehicle, pedestrian, and bicycie naftic for a ponion of Barron Park
on their tindings. to a.s~ist in the des.ig!lation of street type.
Comment:
] question the ~tcgorization of "busy-streets and -quie(" streets. 1he -quiO!t"
streets may have bus.y areas, anc the "bu~y~ streets may ha\'e quiet areas.
QUe3tion:
Can we keep a valley gutt~[ IhrougholJt the entire neighborh,>od:
Answer:
That approach ~s an option, however a valley gutler does nOI pro .... ,ide the separation
between vehicles and pedes!rians that would be provided by using a roll~ curb.
Otber FinaJ Commenls
• A raised walkway \ovith a rolled curb may cause the need to eievale the
driveway to match up. I think a valley gutter would be be."r.
• We need uniform treatment. Valley gUller would be the be~t.
• Parents who have children coming from outside Barron Park into tile area
for SCho..lls want :)afe-crosswaiks for their children.
• Busy streets do not nf':e(j walkways on entire street, they need it only where
they aTe busy.
• You need to count !he t;aftic to determine "busy~.
• Venical curb would narrow lhE streets .
., You are asking for our input, we need to knO\\i ho"," they will be used, Ihere
is a lot of iI1terpretatiOIl. we want to see thE application of guidelines.
• There are more wonhwhile projects in Palo Alto. II is silly to put all this.
effvTt into curbs and ~idewaJk design when the libraries are cutting hours
and lhe senior citizen programs are being cut.
• Putting in sidewalks does nm ~oi ... e all the prohlems.
The meeting was Cldjoumed.
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CITY OF PALO ALTO
BARRON PARK DRAINAGEfSTREET DESIGN GUIDElINE..s
Community Meeting
September 29. 1992 7:00 PM
I. Welcome and Introd uction
(Georae Bagdon, Assistant Director of Public VlorKsl
• Introduce City Staff
• Overview of Meeting Agenda
• Meeti"9 Purpose and Goals
II. Background
(Joe Teresi, Senior En\ol=neer, Palo Alto Public Works Dept,1
• Summary of First TlNo Community Meetings
III. Recommendations
(Jot! Tsrl;!si, Senior EnQineer. Pilla Alto Pub fie Works DePI.)
• Criteria ~or Implementation CJf Design Guidelines
• Drair'age Features
"-Survey Reswlts
--Alternari'Jes
• Pedestrian Waik ways
--Survey Results
--Alternatives
IV. Summary and Clos;ng
lGeOf'tle Ba~dor). Assistant Director of Public Worksl
ATfENDEES:
MINUTES BY:
SUBJECT:
INTRODUCTION
co:)" OF PALO ALTO
George Bagdon
Joe Teresi
Matthew Costigan
Public Works Department
Engir,eering Division
MEETING MINUTES
Assi~tant Director of Public Works
Senior Engineer
Engi.neer
Approximate1), 75 Barron Park residents
Matth~w Costigan
September 29. 1992 Community Meeting
Barron Park Drai.nage and S!Ieet Design Guidelines
Project No. 4-TiQ2
The meeting began with L'1 introduction of the City representatives by George Bagdon,
As~stanl Director of Public Works. George asked that everyone :!.ign in so that they might
receive a copy (If the meeting min.utes and be nourLed as to the dale of the Finance
Committee meeting. To enco1Jr:age good interaction, George e..'lcQuraged people witb
questions to ask them at any time during the meeting.
George exp~ained why City staff was cond\lcting these. oommunhy meeting!.: to develop
design guidelines, as directed by the City Council. in response to citizens' complaints. about
ponding (nooding) and pe.jesL:ian safety: He identif:ed drainage and walkways as the two
major issues to be discu.ssed.
George ad'Jlowledged tha t there are residents ~'irnin Barron Park who do not wan t to see any
changes made to their neighborhood. He stressed that the City does not intend to impose
standard \lertical curb, gulter and sidewalk on Barron Park. residents. City staff is working
with tile community to develop an alternative set of design guideline~ for use in Banon Patk
thal will enhance, rather than detract from, the rural feeling of the neighborhood. George
responded to a question as to why the Public Works Department has recommended the
installatiOl"1 of curb, tuner, and sidewalk on some Barron Park de .... elopments by stating that
there is currently only one set of City standards. After the Barron Park guidelines are
arlop\ed by CO\lnciJ, they will be incorporated into new developments.
Someone uked a question concerning the funding of street and dralnage improvements.
George (""'plained that residents would not be subject to any new taxe!'. or assessments. but
thal current City revenue (e.g. gas tax, utility user:!. tax, storm drain fees) would be used to
fund tbe improvements.
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BACKGROUND
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Joe Teresi, a Senior Engineer with Public \Vorks Engineering ga\'e a slimmary of the t'n'o
previous co:nmunity meetings. Joe acknowledged that Barron Park has a unique look and
feel, and th.a~ residents were not inIerested in the typical "sterile-looking" curb and gutter.
Residents want to maintain the -character of Barron Park.
Based on jnpu~ received a! Ole t\WO pre .... iO'.ls communi!), meetings, ('In March 26th and May
21st, along with the 545 responses to the wrir'..en quc.stionnaire, the major issue to be
addressed is how to improve storm drainage and pedestrian safelY in Barron Park while
maintaining t11e rural fee! of the neighborhood.
CRITERIA FOR IMPLE. ... !ENTATION OF DFBIGN GlIIIJE:!,lNES.
George Bagdon descnbed that dr..s.inage and walkway improvements wouid be incorporated'
inco future City construction projects sucJ-, as street resurfacing, storm drajnage
improvements, and sidewalk construct; on. Based on the input received from the
questionnaire, the majoricy of rcslQents did not consider the impTOllements to be an 'Jrgent
need and preferred that the improvements be constructed as a pa.-t of ongoing projects rather
lh2n Ihe erration of a new s.epa.<l.te proj eeL
George then described the criteria that City staff wO'Jld use whe~ implementing the design
guidelines'. 1) the improvements would not be done ail at once and would be incorporated
into future street projects, 2) the improvements would be designed to fit within the existing
right-of-way, minimizing the impacts on mature landscaping and parking patterns, 3)
improvements would be completed on a block-by-block basis as a minimum, and 4) the
location and extent of actual improvements would be determined with neighborhood input.
Geo"-ge staled ilia! if the residents on a particular street agreed t~at they did not want
improvemer.ts made on their street, then that option would a.iso be considered.
Joe explained that the type of drainage feature and wa1kway wouid differ depending on the
type of SltceL Based Oil the questionnaire, seve!! 5:treets were identlfied as "busy". These
streets included: 1) Los Robles Avenue, 2) Matadero Avenue., 3) Barron Avenue, 4) Laguna
Avenue, SJ Amaranta Avenue, 6) La Donna Stree::, and 7) Maybell Avenue. Many of these
same strects are identiIled by the City as collector streets {as opposed to local streets)
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RECOMMENDAI!Qj'§
TIlt first topic that was diS(:ussed was drainage feature ... Joe explai~ed that the re~ponse
from the qUe!:.tionnaire was that two types of draJnage features would be acceptable: rolled
curb and valley gutter. A cardboard cutout of ea{'~ type of drainage feature was presented to
the audience in order to Clarify how each would look. Joe exp!a.ined that gutt~r.) work to
complement an underground storm drain syste,n by directing stormwater to a drain inlet.
They wou[d also serve to clearly mark the limits of City maintenance responsibility and
protect the edge of the road. Witllout adeql!ate drainage features, water ponds along the
~ge of the f'02dway and accelerates the deterioration of the asphalt pavement.
Ioe proposed that rolled curbs be used on the busier streets 10 establish a more distinct
separation between autos and pedestrians. The rolJ~ curb wo· ... ld be three feet in width, with
a relatively gentle :slope so that auto.s will not "boltom out" when entering a driveway. A
concern was nised about the tendency for autos to park up over the lop of Ole curb, forcing
pedestrianl out into the street. This problem would have to be addresSed J:!y Police
Department enforcement of parking regulations. The other a;cceptable drainage feature,
valley gutter, would be used on local streets. The vaIley gutter would be three feel in width,
"Vo'ith a 2-elevation difference betw~n the flew hne and the edge of the gutter.
Both the rolled curb and the valley gutter would be constru:;ted with concrete. Joe pre.!e!1led
some concrete samples that showed tile varying shades. of gray to black that could be
achieved by blending an additive to tile: concrete mix. Mest of the audience preferred a mix
concaining appro~imate!y 4 pints of additive per clibic yard of concrete. This produces a
dark gray color that blends well with the asphalt pavement, b\Jt remains visible enough 10
highlight the edge of the roadway.
Discuss:on then turned to the use of standard verne-a! curb and gutter under special
circumstances. It was suggested by the City th<ll vertical curbs be installed where. it would
fill. in a g.JP on a block that tw. existing sections of vertical cmb. Residents requested that
tile option of removing the eJ;lsting vertical curb a.'1d replacing it with either a valley gutter
or rolled curb also be available. George indiC"~!-e~ !!"::.~ :..'l:i:; -c:.Y:';":;ii "::vu1d be considered on 2.
case by cue: basis, subject to a review of the amount of ex.isting vertical curb and the
preferen~ of aff~ted residents. The use of vertical curb and gutter was. also proposed for
the side frontages. of properties which face EI Carnine Real This concept was. generaIly
accepted by the audience.
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The second major topic discussed was pedestrian walkways . .Tce presented the results from
the questior.l1.aire showing that the majority of respondents felt walkways were appropriate on
busy streets and near schools. The results from .a related survey question showed that asphalt
and concrete were favored as appropriate materials for wal~'a)'s. Mai!1tainabillly and cost
were also identified as important factors in choosing a construction materiaL Joe 5'tressed
that rnaincai.nability is also a very important issue from the City's point of vicw.
Joe stated that the walkways, if constructed with concrete, would be tinted to match the
adjacent rolled curb. It W~ .agreed that L'le final s.election between concrete a"',d asphalt as 2.
walk\vay material could be made at the time a walkway is proposed for a specific street,
hased upcn input from the affected residents.
Joe proposed that slarldard conc:rele sidewalks be ... sed in Barron Park under the same
circumstances established for the use of standard vertical curb and gutter (the transition from
El camino properties and [0 flll in eXLsting gaps). The use of decomposed granite for a
pedestrian walkway. due to the high CO.'its of maintenance, would be limited to lesser traveled
areas. Los Robles Avenue frol11 L2 Donna Street 10 Laguna Avenue (over the Barron Creek
box culvert) was identified as. a possible ana whcre a decomposed gr.rnite wall"'\llay could be
appropriate.
SUMMARY
George reiterated that the Barron Park design guidelines, if approved b} the Finance
Commiu",-,= and the Cit} Council, would be implemr.:nte.d over time as a part of other ongoing
City improvement programs. George closed the meeting by thankmg the ;audiellC~ for (hcir
input and by stating the people who attended this meeting, as ",'cll as the p;evlous two,
would be sent a copy of the meeting minntes and notification of the date and Lime of the
Finance Committee meeting.
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