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Special Meeting
March 23, 2026
The City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on this date in the Council Chambers and by virtual
teleconference at 5:00 p.m.
Present In Person: Burt, Lauing, Lu, Lythcott-Haims, Reckdahl, Stone, Veenker
Present Remotely: None
Absent: None
Call to Order
Mayor Veenker called the meeting to order.
City Clerk Mahealani Ah Yun called roll and declared all were present.
Special Orders of the Day
1. Proclamation Recognizing March as Women's History Month
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Mayor Veenker spoke of the progress made in women’s rights. However, there was still a gap in
equal pay. The definition of women was inclusive and accepted all who identified as women
and nonbinary people who identified as other than men. Mayor Veenker thanked the women
leaders who attended the meeting. Mayor Veenker recognized Palo Alto’s former women
Council members, mayors, other electeds, executive leadership team members and other
leaders and thanked them for their service.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims read the proclamation and declared March 2026 Women's
History Month in the City of Palo Alto and encouraged all residents to honor the legacy of
women past and present, to celebrate their contributions and achievements and to continue
advancing equity, opportunity and full participation for women and girls in the community.
District 5 Santa Clara County Supervisor Margaret Abe-Koga was honored to be in the presence
of Palo Alto’s incredible women leaders and thanked them for being great role models. The
Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors had a supermajority of women for the first time in
history. Supervisor Abe-Koga honored the women of Palo Alto whose leadership shaped the
region and a Certificate of Commendation was presented.
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Vice Mayor Stone shared that Representative Sam Liccardo, Assemblymember Berman and
Senator Josh Becker sent a resolution but, unfortunately, were not able to attend the meeting.
Vice Mayor Stone stated it had been an honor to work with Mayor Veenker and
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims on the dais and to be in the presence of the incredible leaders
who led and made the City what it was and who were personal mentors. Vice Mayor Stone
recognized Former Mayor Karen Holman and his mother and wife.
Mayor Veenker thanked all for attending the meeting and all who previously served on the dais.
A photo of Mayor Veenker, Councilmember Lythcott-Haims and the former women electeds
was taken. Mayor Veenker noted that at recess there would be a photo taken at the dais with
all council members.
Agenda Changes, Additions and Deletions
City Manager Ed Shikada declared there were no changes.
Consent Calendar
2. Approval of Minutes from March 9, 2026 Meeting
3. Approval of a Facility Agreement and Pet Addendum between the City of Palo Alto and
the American Red Cross for the use of designated city facilities during disasters. CEQA
Status – Not a Project
4. Approval of Purchase Order C26196995 with Insight Public Sector, Utilizing OMNIA
Cooperative Contract No. 23-6692-03 , to Procure Mimecast Subscription services,
including vendor maintenance, updates, and technical support services, for a 3-Year
Term with an Annual Amount of $93,383 for a Total Not-To-Exceed Amount of
$281,093; CEQA status - exempt under regulation 15601(b)(3).
5. Approval of Contract Amendment Number 4 to Contract S18165157 with Smart Energy
Water Inc. (SEW) in the Amount of $972,625 for an Additional Three Years and for a
Revised Not-to-Exceed Total of $2,002,771 for Licensing and Upgrade of the Utilities
MyCPAU Customer Portal; CEQA Status – Not a Project
Public Comment
There were no requests to speak.
MOTION: Councilmember Lu moved, seconded by Councilmember Lauing, to approve Agenda
Item Numbers 2-5.
MOTION PASSED: 7-0
Action Items
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6. FIRST READING: Adoption of an Ordinance to Amend Chapter 9.73 of the Palo Alto
Municipal Code to Adopt a Local Policy to Implement the Foundational Principles of the
United Nations Convention on the Elimination of all forms of Discrimination Against
Women (CEDAW) as Recommended by the Policy and Services Committee; CEQA status
– Not a Project
Deputy City Manager Chantal Cotton-Gains introduced Interim City Attorney Caio Arellano.
Interim City Attorney Caio Arellano introduced Municipal Law Fellow Scott Pease who assisted
the Deputy City Manager in preparing the ordinance.
Mayor Veenker welcomed Municipal Law Fellow Pease.
Deputy City Manager Chantal Cotton-Gains discussed the background of the item. The
ordinance focused on items that Palo Alto had jurisdiction over. There were other pieces in
other CEDAW ordinances at the county and other levels related to healthcare and other topics.
Staff had focused on areas that the City had influence and specific power over. The item was
linked to the Equity Action Plan and the City’s wellness and belonging efforts, Item 3.4, which
intended to adopt the ordinance and then begin implementation. One particular topic would
not be assigned to a particular staff person but would be folded into the City’s ongoing work. In
December, the Policy & Services Committee unanimously recommended that Council approve
the ordinance.
Mayor Veenker, previous Chair of the Policy & Services Committee, expressed that the
committee affirmed that these principles mattered to the City. Many pieces of the ordinance
did not align well with the jurisdiction of the City and Mayor Veenker suggested that others be
referred to the HRC to work out the specifics. At this meeting, Council was to consider adopting
the ordinance as a foundation for determining how to accomplish everything addressed in the
proclamation. The ordinance was a foundational statement of principles aspiring to equity and
equality. Certain things had been carved out, such as healthcare because the County addressed
that and other things were added, such as childcare. Mayor Veenker encouraged Council to
support the ordinance.
Vice Mayor Stone, former Policy & Services member, commented this was the beginning of
important work. It was important that Policy & Services had referred the item to the HRC to
explore strategies and policies to implement the ordinance. Vice Mayor Stone hoped all would
support the ordinance.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims recognized former HRC Commissioner Steven Lee for bringing
attention to CEDAW and commended Deputy City Manager Cotton-Gains for her work.
Mayor Veenker seconded Councilmember Lythcott-Haims’ comments.
Public Comment
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1. Roberta A. was part of a coalition of folks who had been working on this item for 9 years
and hoped Council would support it. The document was 3 pages and other Cities’
documents were 26 to 30 pages and Roberta A. hoped that the HRC and others would
strengthen it after adoption. Roberta A. suggested there be input from the women
leadership of SEIU.
2. Sondra B. supported passing the proposition.
3. Cherrill S. hoped Council would adopt the ordinance, although it was weak in
comparison to other Cities’ ordiances. In the future, Cherrill S. would introduce a project
to abolish nuclear weapons and would request a Mayors for Peace resolution.
4. Helen had been working on passing CEDAW as an ordinance since 1995 and hoped
Council would pass it.
Mayor Veenker appreciated and thanked the Cities for CEDAW, the coalition, and the public
speakers.
Councilmember Lu supported advancing the ordinance. There were opportunities for the City
to improve childcare supply and access.
Councilmember Lauing supported the ordinance and recognized the work of Mayor Veenker,
Vice Mayor Stone and Councilmember Lu.
Councilmember Reckdahl wanted the work to move faster.
Councilmember Burt echoed the comments of colleagues and recognized Rose Bird, Esther
Clark and others.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims looked forward to continuing the work on this.
MOTION: Mayor Veenker moved, seconded by Councilmember Lythcott-Haims, to adopt the
attached CEDAW Ordinance and refer to the Human Relations Commission to provide
recommendations back to Council relating to advancing the ordinance inclusive of appropriate
housing options for unhoused individuals and individuals who experience sexual or gender-
based violence and childcare.
Deputy City Manager Cotton-Gains appreciated the other team members who had worked on
the item.
MOTION PASSED: 7-0
[Council took a 40-minute recess for a reception]
Special Orders of the Day – Boards, Commissions, and Committee Interviews
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7. Interview Candidates for Vacancies on the Human Relations Commission (HRC), Planning
& Transportation Commission (PTC), and Utilities Advisory Commission (UAC); CEQA
Status - Not a Project
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City Clerk Mahealani Ah Yun announced that each candidate was scheduled for a 10-minute
interview.
Mayor Veenker asked if HRC’s appointment was for a 7-month term and if there were 3
applicants with no incumbents.
City Clerk Mahealani Ah Yun confirmed that was correct.
Human Relations Commission:
Ellen Bob stated she had always been interested in figuring out how to help people get along
and to cross boundaries and to recognize what united people rather than what separated them.
Ellen Bob spoke of working as the Functions Commissioner at Los Altos High, being a small
business owner for 25 years, volunteering for the Palo Alto Mediation Project, and work at
Congregation Etz Chayim. Ellen Bob was prepared to be a constructive HRC member and work
on any and all items in the HRC Work Plan as needed. Ellen Bob had training in mediation,
suicide prevention, mental health first aid, situational awareness, Stop the Bleed, gun violence
prevention and nonviolent engagement and deescalation. Palo Altans had more in common
that what kept them apart and the HRC contributed to every Palo Altan feeling safe and
respected.
Vice Mayor Stone inquired what the single most important issue was facing the HRC and how
Ellen Bob would contribute to addressing it.
Ellen Bob could not point out a single most important issue because more than one priority
could be addressed at the same time. For example, mental health and homelessness were
connected. As for as the development on San Antonio Road, equity, accessibility, etc., had to be
considered. Such issues could not be separated. The HRC Work Plan addressed 5 topics and a 7-
person HRC could attend to all the issues.
Vice Mayor Stone queried if Ellen Bob would take a leadership role on a particular HRC issue.
Ellen Bob answered that she could take a leadership role on any HRC issue. It appeared that
there were openings for mental health and CEDAW, which she could work on. Everything was
connected to safety and respect.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims requested an example of Ellen Bob helping a person or a
community come to greater connectedness and comradery when there had been differences of
opinion.
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Ellen Bob spoke of bringing safe parking to the synagogue parking lot. Residential neighbors, St.
Andrews Church and Spark Church had concerns and everyone needed to be brought together.
There should be listening and pivoting done upon learning more about a particular issue.
Councilmember Lauing asked what Ellen Bob’s superpower was.
Ellen Bob was proud of the ability to bring people to consensus.
Councilmember Lu requested that Ellen Bob expand on the desire to see more meetings
between communities and entities that were in tension with one another.
Ellen Bob provided an example of RV dwellers in neighborhoods and noted it would be valuable
for those folks to meet each other.
Rona Hu, a psychiatrist and professor at the School of Medicine at Stanford, was previously the
Medical Director of the Acute Inpatient Unit at Stanford Hospital for 20 years and Associate
Dean for the School of Medicine during the pandemic. Rona Hu’s daughter had a mental health
diagnosis. Rona Hu tried to bring folks together and had been commended by the City of Half
Moon Bay for helping after the mass shooting. In addition to English, Rona Hu spoke Mandarin
Chinese, Italian and French.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims queried what had been learned in the conversation with Dr.
Shashank Joshi that made Rona Hu want to serve on the HRC.
Rona Hu had applied because she could be of help.
Mayor Veenker requested that Rona Hu expand on the multifactorial aspect of mental health
and asked how many factors were addressed at once.
Rona Hu stated one had to prioritize, focus and listen. In working with Half Moon Bay,
psychological skills were needed to take care of the victims and those helping the victims. Rona
Hu added that homelessness and mental health were very connected.
Councilmember Lu questioned if Rona Hu wanted to speak to anything in addition to mental
health.
Rona Hu wanted to help with things she had experience in and in areas where she had less
experience.
Councilmember Burt inquired if the City should be doing more, doing things differently or doing
anything in addition to what was being done with mental health partners.
Rona Hu was familiar with the range of initiatives in the community and hoped to be helpful in
all of them.
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Raizel Rosenberg was an engineering manager at a prefab housing company and a renter.
Serving on the HRC had been a long-time personal goal. Raizel Rosenberg had closely followed
the HRC’s meetings to better understand its priorities. Since submitting the application, her
goals had been refined to better align with the draft 2026 HRC Work Plan, which included
strengthening community engagement; following the Safety Net’s lead as it related to mental
health; strengthening the liaison role with Avenidas; helping evaluate funding decisions with a
focus on real-world impact, operational feasibility and efficiency while ensuring that allocated
resources would reach the community members most in need; finding a pragmatic application
for Palo Alto as it related to CEDAW; and applying lived experience. Raizel Rosenberg was a
bilingual Spanish speaker with close friends who were RV dwellers and was eager to help the
HRC liaison work with Buena Vista and RV communities. Raizel Rosenberg was a Mexican
American with Jewish heritage and would bring a multicultural lens and a deep commitment to
empathy, equity and belonging.
Vice Mayor Stone queried what the single most important issue was facing the HRC and how
Raizel Rosenberg would address it.
Raizel Rosenberg wanted to focus on youth mental health. Helping the City create the first
Pride event was a big goal.
Councilmember Reckdahl questioned if the City could better address renter protections.
Raizel Rosenberg stated there was opportunity for renters to feel more secure to ensure a long-
term future in Palo Alto.
Mayor Veenker requested that Raizel Rosenberg speak to researching safe and acceptable AI
practices.
Raizel Rosenberg noted that Palo Alto adopted safe and acceptable AI practices, which should
be approached delicately while listening to the community’s feedback on the use of the
software and consideration should be given to those who had access to it. The studies and
ongoing cases in law concerning AI use as it related to mental health should be taken into
consideration.
Mayor Veenker questioned if there was a connection with AI and social media and if it played a
role in mental health.
Raizel Rosenberg replied there was a huge connection between AI and social media and it was
sometimes hard to tell what was real. Residents should be aware that they could not always tell
at first glance if something was real and residents should be made aware of the resources to
address that.
Councilmember Lauing requested that Raizel Rosenberg discuss working with the PTC for
alternative paths to home ownership and asked what the library objective was.
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Raizel Rosenberg responded options could be explored to increase alternative pathways to
housing and certain resources and people should be allocated to address it. The library
objective related to AI and preparing residents for emerging technologies.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims requested an example of Raizel Rosenberg’s roots in various
places being a skillset and an asset.
Raizel Rosenberg answered that recently a drug cartel had been taken down in her home state
in Mexico, which allowed her to address those from Mexico or who had connections there with
greater empathy and understanding on their day-to-day.
Councilmember Burt requested that Raizel Rosenberg speak to the role of AI intersecting with
the HRC.
Raizel Rosenberg requested there be a joint listening session with the library to educate
residents on AI being a tool and how the City would apply it. In closing, Raizel Rosenberg
thanked Council for the opportunity to be a part of the HRC.
Utilities Advisory Commission:
Mayor Veenker mentioned there were 3 full-terms positions of 3 years each and that 2 must be
filled by Palo Alto residents.
Robert Phillips, a 45+ year Palo Alto resident, had a career as an academic professor at Stanford
and Columbia University, had started a company, worked at Amazon, Hoover, etc., and was an
author. Robert Phillips served on the UAC for the last 3 years and on the Budget Subcommittee.
Councilmember Burt requested that Robert Phillips discuss the relationship of the UAC and
Council, Council committees and staff and asked what should be done differently or better.
Robert Phillips answered that the UAC was a liaison between staff and Council. The relationship
with subcommittees could be done better by hearing directly from representatives, not via staff
or YouTube videos. Council representatives had not been present at the UAC enough.
Councilmember Reckdahl questioned how folks would be encouraged to transition from natural
gas to electricity.
Robert Phillips answered that more than 80 percent of Palo Alto residents had at least 1 gas
utility and the adoption rate would not make an immediate difference. Palo Alto had the
smallest gas utility in California. It might come to a point that it would not be economically
viable for the Palo Alto Utility to support the needs. The less advantaged might be supporting
the entire salary and infrastructure for gas. At a point of it becoming nonviable, consideration
might need to be given to PG&E, for example, managing it.
Mayor Veenker asked if there were areas on the UAC that could benefit from a diversified
experience or background.
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Robert Phillips answered that everybody on the current commission brought something. Robert
Phillips did not see any one thing lacking. The commission would occasionally get too far into
the details and might lose the strategic viewpoint but it was not one aspect.
Vice Mayor Stone inquired how the UAC could work with Council to keep utility rates
manageable.
Robert Phillips replied that the UAC had kept rates manageable to some extent. The UAC should
inform Council about BAWSCA and SFPUC and bring Council in when a voice was needed.
Double-digit increases were inevitable and the UAC should help Council determine ways to help
mitigate that.
Councilmember Lu noted that there was a split vote on the UAC concerning minimum purchase
agreements with SFPUC and inquired what Robert Phillips’ view on that.
Robert Phillips thought the big issue was the relationships. There was frustration on the UAC
with SFPUC and to some extent with BAWSCA concerning the lack of responsiveness. It had
been forecasted that the commodity rate for water would rise by 1 percent and it ended up
rising 7.6 percent and the difference made planning and relationships difficult. There should be
a way to communicate and deal with the issues and going through BAWSCA might be the right
way to do it.
Meagan Mauter had served on the UAC for the past 3 years and as vice chair for the last year.
Meagan Mauter enjoyed her time on the UAC because it provided an opportunity, as a business
owner, to have a say about how utilities were run, to make sure staff was running the best set
of utilities possible and to help think about Palo Alto in the context of a region to more
efficiently operate utilities. Meagan Mauter was as a full-time faculty member in the Civil and
Environmental Engineering Department at Stanford and the Research Director for the National
Alliance for Water Innovation.
Councilmember Burt requested that Meagan Mauter speak to differences in her initial
expectations of the role and what had been experienced and what the UAC might do
differently.
Meagan Mauter had entered the position envisioning a stronger focus on strategy within the
utilities and less of a focus on items related to routine rate-setting and other standing items.
There had been a push over the past year to think more about long-term strategy and
engagement in S/CAP, long-term planning for the gas utility, ways utilities were connected to
each other, addressing fiber issues and rolling out a strategy and supporting staff with the value
judgments when setting strategy.
Councilmember Reckdahl asked what Meagan Mauter’s proudest accomplishment was and
biggest disappointment on the UAC.
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Meagan Mauter stated onboarding the Utilities Director was a smooth transition. Meagan
Mauter wanted to strengthen cost-savings opportunities by exploring regional solutions and
engaging with BACWA and BAWSCA.
Councilmember Lu requested that Meagan Mauter discuss research and cutting-edge academia
that could be brought to Palo Alto.
Meagan Mauter responded that Palo Alto had become a living laboratory for some first-of-a-
kind adoption of some of the research done by her group and what had been seen across the
civil and environmental engineering community and the sustainability community more
broadly. However, a commissioner should not impose on Palo Alto research they were doing on
a daily basis. It was important to keep those fairly distinct. Although, Meagan Mauter did
engage with staff on suggestions. Meagan Mauter discussed wastewater cost increases and the
opportunity for Palo Alto’s wastewater treatment plant to serve as a buyer and a seller in the
market.
Mayor Veenker queried if the UAC had enough of a connection with NCPA or if more
information was needed.
Meagan Mauter did not think there was a disconnect. There might be an opportunity for
stronger communication where decisions were on the horizon, such as fiber and water. As for
water, there was a stronger need to engage Council as there was a disconnect and divide on the
UAC.
City Clerk Yun announced that Benjamin Piiru withdrew the application.
Julia Zeitlin was a student at Stanford studying environmental systems engineering with a focus
on sustainable urban systems, began work in climate advocacy in the seventh grade, in high
school focused on getting the youth invested in Palo Alto’s climate goals, built a coalition to
work with the City to achieve 80 x 30, interned for the Palo Alto’s Office of Sustainability in
2024, helped start Palo Alto’s Youth Climate Advisory Board and led the Bay Area Heat Mapping
Campaign. Julia Zeitlin currently worked as a fellow in Stanford’s Office of Sustainability and
focused on implementing electrification projects and was partnered with Acterra to start an
induction cooktop lending program for faculty and staff and to pilot window-packaged heat
pumps into the homes of Stanford faculty and staff. Julia Zeitlin was applying to serve, not drive
an agenda. On one hand, Julia Zeitlin understood the challenging balance between services and
affordability for rate payors and, on the other hand, the financial stability and security of the
Utility. The UAC commissioners had a difficult job and Julia Zeitlin commended them for their
work. Julia Zeitlin would bring energy, hard work and the perspective of young residents to the
UAC.
Councilmember Burt asked where Julia Zeitlin would contribute the most to the UAC and if the
UAC should focus differently.
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Julia Zeitlin replied there was an ongoing effort to increase engagement between Council and
the UAC, which should be continued to determine what would be most helpful in presenting
recommendations to Council. Julia Zeitlin was interested in furthering the efforts in multifamily
electrification and ensuring equitable electrification.
Councilmember Lu requested that Julia Zeitlin discuss innovative opportunities for Palo Alto
Utilities.
Julia Zeitlin was acutely interested in reliability and resiliency and there was an opportunity to
do innovative pilots with battery storage and perhaps there could be a partnership with
Stanford.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims requested that Julia Zeitlin discuss her advocation for data
centers.
Julia Zeitlin understood that data centers benefited the City and there was an opportunity to
prioritize businesses in Palo Alto and give them a chance to benefit from the technology but
there should be caution in moving forward to reduce adverse impacts. Data centers could help
stabilize electric rates.
Councilmember Reckdahl questioned what could be done better to convince people to part
with gas appliances.
Julia Zeitlin replied that was a big challenge. The work Palo Alto was doing to incentive the
switch could be better communicated. Some Palo Altans were not aware of 80 x 30 or the
electrification opportunities the City offered. Palo Alto should cautiously but carefully study
what the next phase should be in terms of more aggressive ordinances or codes.
Vice Mayor Stone inquired why the UAC would benefit from the youth voice and perspective.
Julia Zeitlin responded it was important that a younger person represent younger people in the
community, who were concerned with long-term planning and sustainability of the Utility.
Greg Scharff had been chair of the UAC for 2 years and was completing a second term and had
been mayor for 2 years and the NCPA commissioner for 8 years. Grid modernization was
important and what was being done, how much was being spent and how it would affect rates
long term should be balanced. The UAC was starting to focus on strategically keeping utility
rates down but capital projects needed to be done and safety should not be minimized.
Following the FTTP pilot, it should be determined if it would work financially and make sense
for Palo Alto. It appeared that Palo Alto would get another transmission corridor/interconnect.
Councilmember Lauing asked what necessary changes Greg Scharff had seen over his years of
involvement and what other changes should be made.
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Greg Scharff answered there should be more focus on the details and assumptions being made
should be questioned. The UAC should take a holistic approach given the financial cost the City
was facing.
Councilmember Burt questioned what role Greg Scharff saw for future mandates to move the
dial on electrification.
Greg Scharff replied that moving the dial on electrification was tricky. Mandates might play a
key role if they were smart, well thought out and gave people enough time. It was hard to
imagine that the electrification goal would be met in 4 years given the current adoption rate.
There should be a realistic and achievable plan and Greg Scharff understood staff was in the
process of developing different aspects of the plan. The death spiral of the gas utility had not
yet been planned for.
Councilmember Reckdahl inquired what could be done proactively to prevent rate hikes in the
future.
Greg Scharff responded that rate hikes were often driven by how much was going into CapEx
and there were things beyond the City’s control, such as the price of natural gas, water, etc.
Staff should explain why CapEx projects were needed.
Councilmember Lu noted that Greg Scharff had a few absences in 2025 and questioned if there
should be concerns about availability.
Greg Scharff answered there should be no concerns regarding availability.
Olgu Tanriverdi, a Palo Alto resident, had worked in the energy industry for over 15 years,
mostly in California, and did a PhD thesis on horizontal access wind turbine and renewable
energy generation and how it would penetrate into the CAISO market, especially MRTU. Olgu
Tanriverdi had an above-average knowledge of energy generation, third-party contracts,
transmission line constraints and upgrades in energy generation depending on hydro, gas
turbines and any other forms. Olgu Tanriverdi could help the UAC make informed decisions in
terms of strategy and long-term vision and was aware of the limitations and constraints Palo
Alto had. Olgu Tanriverdi had been involved with RFO substations with the evaluation of various
contracts in different energy generations.
Mayor Veenker requested that Olgu Tanriverdi speak to interest and/or experience with
utilities other than electricity.
Olgu Tanriverdi replied that he would be helpful with utilities other than electricity but was not
as versatile in the other utilities but would study them to be able to advise Council as best as
possible.
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Councilmember Burt asked how the City might not only incorporate a deeper utilization of data
science but how AI might empower some of what the City was attempting to do in achieving
efficiency to customers, within the Utility and otherwise.
Olgu Tanriverdi stated that AI would help a lot with forecasting, complex data analysis, etc.
Vice Mayor Stone questioned how rates might be managed.
Olgu Tanriverdi answered that the terms, expiration dates and performance of current
contracts should be reviewed and then the City should look for partners to see what new
generation could be procured with better rates. Changes to infrastructure would provide better
efficiency but detailed calculations would be required to ensure that the investment would
recoup the expected benefits. In addition, current assets should be investigated. In closing,
Olgu Tanriverdi thanked Council for their time. Olgu Tanriverdi could help in various ways with
his energy industry experience and wanted to learn more about and help Council with current
challenges.
[The Council took a 15-minute break]
Planning and Transportation Commission:
Mayor Veenker announced that Council would interview 4 PTC applicants at this meeting and 2
on April 6.
Tom Siegal, a 25 year Palo Alto resident, half the time as a renter and half as a homeowner, had
experience with planning issues. Tom Siegal was a 6-year member and president of the Citizen
Oversight Committee of the Palo Alto school bond, which primarily dealt with construction and
planning issues; was a small business owner for a while dealing with commercial leasing and
employee housing issues; was president of the board of a small, private school, which relocated
and required planning and permitting issues; had built an ADU on his property; and was part of
a small group that rented aircraft at the Palo Alto Airport. Tom Siegal was interested in being on
the PTC for 3 reasons – to create and retain a livable city while protecting its character, to bring
different voices and perspectives to complex issues and to speed up the decision processes.
Tom Siegal had reorganized his personal life to set aside about 10 hours per week to be
involved in community service and activities.
Vice Mayor Stone queried if Council or the PTC had been considering a particular policy that
would help with the housing goals and if the PTC could improve those.
Tom Siegal disagreed with the possibility of a tall building on the Mollie Stone site and
supported building housing on the former Fry’s site and areas closer to commercial.
Councilmember Lu questioned, with the exception of the Mollie Stone site, how Tom Siegal felt
about infill housing in general in Palo Alto and housing downtown, on California Avenue and
near the San Antonio Caltrain station and what the infill housing opportunities might be –
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parking lots, small commercial buildings – and what policies the PTC could work on for infill
housing.
Tom Siegal felt it would be good to have more community spaces around the built-up areas.
More housing on California Avenue, etc., would create more life and livable spaces. It would be
good to fill it in due to the current congestion there. Some of the single-story buildings in the
denser areas could be raised to 3 or 4 stories. Tom Siegal supported creating more parking
structures to remove on-street and parking lot-style parking and turning that space into
cohesive housing.
Councilmember Lauing asked what allowed Tom Siegal to deal with council members, school
board members, and colleagues and be able to make progress.
Tom Siegal had run the policy function for a large technology company and dealt with a lot of
very difficult and contentious issues that were not black-and-white decisions. Tom Siegal
separated facts from opinions and broke down complex issues to aid in making faster decisions.
Councilmember Lauing questioned if Tom Siegal’s decisions were made using facts and
opinions.
Tom Siegal replied there was no right or wrong for many issues but facts needed to be clearly
separated from opinions. Decision-making bodies had to use their judgment, values and
convictions but it should be founded on good information.
Councilmember Burt inquired what the common ground was on housing goals.
Tom Siegal wanted to create and retain a livable city and city character was very important and
had to be the guiding principle. There were opportunities to increase housing while not
violating core principles, such as the Mollie Stone site.
Councilmember Reckdahl asked how Tom Siegal heard all voices, not just the loudest.
Tom Siegal responded that it was important to be out in the community, visit sites, attend
community events and connect with community organizations and solicit input. In closing, Tom
Siegal appreciated the questions. Tom Siegal could commit to the needed time investment.
Forest Olaf Peterson stated that working as a hod carrier and earning a PhD shaped his work on
the PTC. Forest Olaf Peterson read documents, asked hard questions and represented those
who could not be in the room. Forest Olaf Peterson believed he was the only commissioner
who was a renter and got to every meeting by foot, Caltrain, bus or BART; therefore, lived
transportation and housing policy every day. On the PTC, Forest Olaf Peterson tried to address
flood protection, the Baylands, labor standards and public contracts. Forest Olaf Peterson
continued to chair the Valley Water Flood Protection Subcommittee monitoring the San
Francisquito corridor. Forest Olaf Peterson wanted to continue serving on the PTC.
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Councilmember Burt asked if Forest Olaf Peterson wanted to share anything about events and
ethics that might inform Council’s decision on the reappointment.
Forest Olaf Peterson responded that as a commissioner he listened to and asked questions of
the public. Forest Olaf Peterson was known internationally as an ethnographer, mostly in
workforce education, and became part of the fabric of what was being considered and brought
that policy to the PTC. Forest Olaf Peterson tried to live, understand and experience issues that
came before the PTC and some people did not appreciate that. Forest Olaf Peterson was a labor
standards investigator and an academic at Stanford, which held him to higher ethical standards
than the general public, and he had to answer to many people and in 20 years had had no
deficits to his behavior.
Councilmember Reckdahl asked Forest what should be done about the housing opportunity
along El Camino, which was contentious because it would impact nearby neighbors.
Forest Olaf Peterson responded that the El Camino corridor was interesting and explained that
the PTC had a case that involved an assisted living facility wanting to expand and there had
been an agreement built in 20 or 30 years ago with the community. New residents moved in
under that agreement but expanding the facility would push against housing of probably every
lot on El Camino, including the motel that had a creek flowing through the middle of it. It was
important to navigate the commercial urban divide to be respectful of the residents and the
businesses.
Councilmember Reckdahl questioned what solutions would be respectful to all parties if large
buildings were proposed along El Camino.
Forest Olaf Peterson wanted more daylight and noise analyses. The City was reliant on
consultants for data analysis and oftentimes the consultants presented 2-dimensional
information and decisions were being made on that but the noise domes and the shading
throughout the day would be unclear. More information models should be used to create more
fairness and transparency.
Vice Mayor Stone spoke of San Francisquito Creek and the Reach 2 project and asked what role
the PTC should have in reviewing plans and proving feedback to Council, the JPA, etc.
Forest Olaf Peterson explained that San Francisquito Creek by itself was a case study of
governance. All involved should work together and not be siloed.
Councilmember Lauing questioned how models would help with the outcome of PTC meetings.
Forest Olaf Peterson responded that technology would help and staff should be encouraged
with technology.
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Councilmember Lauing noted that Forest Olaf Peterson’s application mentioned a priority of
continuing to focus on reducing staff time demands and limiting ad hoc follow-ups and asked if
the PTC had to request additional information because they did not get it from staff.
Forest Olaf Peterson responded that threading the needle was challenging.
Bryna Chang had been on the PTC for 5 years, was currently vice chair and was previously vice
chair and chair; lived in Palo Alto for 45 years; previously taught as a lecturer at Stanford
Graduate School of Business and ran the MBA program on the staff side; had product
management and consulting experience; was trained as a biologist, so had scientific research
and conservation management experience; volunteered in the community; was involved in
PAUSD before the PTC; was on the JLS PTC Executive Board; served a cumulative 10 years on
various site councils at elementary, middle and high schools; and served on a MidPen Working
Group. Bryna Chang enjoyed working on the PTC and hoped to do it another 4 years.
Councilmember Burt requested that Bryna Chang share thoughts on how the PTC might work
more effectively.
Bryna Chang answered that churn happening between the PTC and Council was a big issue with
items being returned and sometimes the context in which the PTC made decisions had not been
fully transmitted to Council. Bryna Chang had been working with staff trying to surface issues
that might be raised. Bryna Chang and Chair Akin recently wrote a letter to Council to flag some
of the issues. Staff had been encouraged to remind Council that the PTC had a Council Liaison.
Bryna Chang often tried to present issues to various council members offline.
Councilmember Reckdahl asked what Bryna Chang was most proud of related to her PTC
career.
Bryna Chang was very proud of the Dark Skies Ordinance and the Bird-Friendly Design
Ordinance, which were now more practical and effective and listening to the community had
been critical in accomplishing that.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims noted that CEO of LifeMoves once stated, "I respect the past
but I am loyal to the future," and requested that Bryna Chang reflect on that statement with
regard to housing in the City and the work of the PTC.
Bryna Chang answered it was important to keep what was good about Palo Alto but there
needed to be a look forward to determine how the city could be affordable to all residents.
There were good blocks on El Camino Real to build height as it backed up to office, was near
transportation, was a big corridor and would not have as negative of an effect on the
surrounding community as it might at the end of Cal Ave.
Vice Mayor Stone asked Bryna Chang if there should be more focus on a particular housing
policy to meet RHNA goals.
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Bryna Chang was most concerned about the affordability RHNA goals, so there should be a
focus on where funds would come from. Resources and subsidies should be applied to truly
affordable housing. Housing being affordable for median income would not address the needs
of teachers, etc.
Councilmember Lu noted there were a few cases when the PTC was more bearish on a project
than Council had been and asked Bryna Chang how there could be alignment with the PTC
making many changes to projects Council liked.
Bryna Chang replied that PTC was a recommending body and the Staff Report should accurately
reflect PTC’s discussions and make Council aware of what the disagreements related to. The
issues needed to be adequately surfaced as a recommending body.
Jeff Watt addressed his application noting that his long career in the semiconductor industry
did not have any significant overlap with PTC but he had experience in managing large projects,
especially over the last few years for DARPA, which involved a large staff, many stakeholders,
clients and subcontractors. The programs were budget and time constrained with a lot of legal
compliance issues. Pragmatic decisions had to be made on almost a daily basis. Jeff Watt had
been in South Palo Alto over 30 years, which would allow him to bring a perspective to the PTC
that was currently somewhat limited on the commission. Jeff Watt spoke of Seattle’s transit-
oriented approaches and outcomes being 10 or 15 years ahead of Palo Alto in terms of
implementing transient-oriented development. Jeff Watt was on the Board of the Palo Alto
Historical Association but did not believe in preserving the city like a relic and wanted Cal Ave to
be a more vibrant urban village.
Councilmember Lauing noted that Jeff Watt’s application addressed some projects having
extended processes and repeated revisions that did not necessarily produce better outcomes
and asked for examples of such.
Jeff Watt responded that the Hyatt Ricky's and the Alma Lucky developments and the
pedestrian bridge across 101 went on for a long time without the best outcomes. Jeff Watt’s
background was very data-driven, so he was familiar with making decisions based on data,
which often was incomplete data. Perfection should not be the enemy of good enough and
decisions should be made with a sense of urgency.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims found it intriguing that Jeff Watt was on the Palo Alto Historical
Society Association yet did not want the city preserved as a relic, which seemed to be
incompatible views. Councilmember Lythcott-Haims requested that Jeff Watt share how these
things were brought into greater balance.
Jeff Watt was familiar with Palo Alto’s history going back earlier than the Spanish expeditions in
the 1770s and up through more modern times. Significant historical elements and resources
should be preserved but there should be movement forward as more housing and
opportunities were needed.
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Councilmember Reckdahl asked what could be better done as it related to the Housing
Element.
Jeff Watt had not studied the Housing Element in great detail, so did not have any specific
suggestions. Jeff Watt spent some time reviewing the San Antonio Road Area Plan, which was a
key component to adding housing, although there were challenges with transportation and
mobility issues. SB 79 would be coming soon and AB 2097 would limit parking, which would
impact that corridor. California Avenue was a great opportunity for housing. Jeff Watt was not
necessarily in favor of a tall development at Mollie Stone’s, but it was a great opportunity to
add significant housing to that area and it could help make the area vibrant.
Councilmember Lu queried what opportunities Jeff Watt saw for transit-oriented development
and what it could consist of downtown or on Cal Ave.
Jeff Watt replied that there were stations downtown, Cal Ave and San Antonio, so there was an
opportunity to add a significant amount of housing, which would be mandated by SB 79, which
the City needed to be prepared for and proactively decide how it would happen.
Councilmember Lythcott-Haims requested examples of Seattle being 15 years ahead of Palo
Alto and what the City should be urged toward.
Jeff Watt responded that Seattle had a very good light rail system and the zoning done 10 or 15
years ago promoted high-density housing close to where the stations would be. Residents
advocated for putting stations in the middle of the urban villages. Height had been tapered
down through midrise and low-rise zoning out to the residential areas. Residential parking
programs had been implemented, which helped but parking was still a challenge. The
developers understood that market forces demanded parking. The model could be used as a
learning tool.
Mayor Veenker announced that Council would cast votes at the April 13 meeting.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 9:01 p.m.