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Manager’s Report
DEPARTMENT: UTILITIES
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APRIL 5, 1999 CMR:162:99
PROVISION OF UNIVERSAL HIGH SPEED CONNECTIVITY TO
ALL PALO ALTO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES
The purpose of this report is to provide information to the Council regarding the altematives
being presented to the Council for the provision of high speed, advanced telecommunication
connectivity for all Palo Alto residents and businesses. The pros and cons for each of three
alternatives are summarized, along with the resource needs associated with each.
BACKGROUND
On May 8, 1995, the City Council, in a bold move to expedite the upgrading of
telecommunications facilities in Palo Alto, approved funding for a Telecommunications
Study (CMR:240:95). As a result of this study, the City Council adopted the following set
of telecommunications objectives:
Accelerated deployment of a broad range of advanced broadband telecommunications
services to all of the citizens and businesses in Palo Alto.
Decreased costs for both conventional and advanced telecommunications services (as
compared to the costs for similar services if provided without City involvement).
3.High quality for both conventional and advanced telecommunications services.
Enhanced competition among telecommunications service providers and increased
telecommunications choices for consumers.
5.Limited or no financial risk exposure to the City.
Based on these objectives and a desire to spur development of advanced telecommunications
services in Palo Alto, Council directed staff to construct a dark fiber optic ring around Palo
Alto (CMR:361:96) with the intent of leasing dark fiber to telecommunications providers.
The dark fiber ring was essentially completed in early 1998 (Attachment A) and the City
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currently has leased dark fiber to two telecommunications providers and four businesses.
In February 1998, Council approved staff’s recommendation that the quickest method of
obtaining advanced telecommunications in Palo Alto was to solicit proposals from entities
interested in providing universal service to residences and businesses through the expanded
use of the City’s existing assets, including the fiber optic backbone (CMR:458:97). This
process was designated as the Universal Telecommunications Service Request for Proposal
(UTS-RFP). As work proceeded on the RFP, staff felt that the process could be improved
upon if a fiber optic telecommunications network was constructed in a small area as a trial,
with the experience and results gained assisting with the development and evaluation of the
UTS-RFP. The trial was to be done prior to completion of the UTS-RFP. In July 1998, staff
informed Council of this potential improvement to the RFP process (CMR:256:98),
designating it the Fiber to the Home (FTTH) trial.
After considerable staff time and effort was expended on developing the design and
implementation method for constructing and operating a FTTH trial and surveying the
community, staff reached the conclusion that the major benefit from doing the trial would
be as a precursor to a citywide build out of FTTH by the City. Since a citywide build out
would be very expensive and represented what staff believed was a level of risk that was not
congruent with the original Council guidelines for City telecommunications efforts, staff
recommended to Council that the FTTH trial be abandoned and that Council direct staff to
continue with the original conception of a UTS-RFP (CMR:424:98). Council referred the
issue to the Utilities Advisory Commission (UAC) and Policy and Services Committee for
review and recommendation.
At the UAC meeting of January 6, 1999 and the Policy and Services Committee meeting on
January 12, 1999, staff presented its concerns regarding the construction of the FTTH trail
and why it felt it would be better to focus on obtaining high speed advanced
telecommunications connectivity through the UTS-RFP process rather than constructing the
FTTH trial.
The UAC recommended that staff be directed to proceed with the UTS-RFP and revisit the
Fee options for the FTTH trial project by looking at different prices paid by the participants
to make the project less costly to the City and reduce the amount of time to recover City
funds for construction. (Attachment F) The Policy and Services Committee also
recommended that staff be directed to proceed with the UTS-RFP, and that staff formulate
a proposal to construct a mid-size FTTH trial, with costs to the City in the $250-$275,000
range,(Attachment B) along with developing a proposal for implementation, selection, and
mitigation of risk management factors.
DISCUSSION
Since the January 1999 meetings, staff has met with an advisory group appointed by the City
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Manager on telecommunications issues, and with representatives of PA Fibernet. In those
meetings, additional information was provided regarding the pros and cons of the alternatives
presented to the Council. Staff believes it would be helpful to the Council in determining the
City’s action to summarize the three alternatives under consideration:
Alternative 1 is the staff proposal to proceed with the UTS-RFP, without a FTTH trial, and
instead pursue a strategy to facilitate advanced telecommunication connectivity for Palo Alto
residents and businesses through solicitation of public-private parmerships with technology
experts in the provision of advanced telecommunication services. The City would provide
reduced rates for leases of the City’s fiber ring, reduced fees for utility pole attachments, and
conduit usage leases.
Alternative 2 is to proceed with the FTTH trial, and to do the UTS-RFP after the trial,
incorporating information from the trial, and assuming that FTTH will be a required option
for the overall solution to the "last mile" problem; this alternative is supported by PA
Fibernet.
Alternative 3 is to proceed with the UTS-RFP and the FTTH trial on a parallel track; this
alternative represents the recommendations of the UAC and Policy and Services Committee.
The pros and cons of each alternative are summarized, as well as the resource costs that
would be required if the alternative was selected.
Alternative 1: Proceed with the UTS-RFP, without a FTTH trial, and pursue a strategy
to facilitate advanced telecommunication connectivity for Palo Alto residents and
businesses through solicitation of public-private partnerships. This alternative assumes
that a City-run FTTH utility will not be pursued.
PROS:
Enhanced telecommunication services could be provided to the commtmity more quickly by
utilizing a variety of technologies
Little or no financial risk to the City
Would leverage City’s asset in the dark fiber ring, as well as other utility infrastructure and
right-of-way, to provide advanced telecommunication services to the community
Partner with telecommunication professionals for flexibility and expertise
Potential revenue for the City
Little impact on existing staff, except during analysis of responses to RFP
Not locked into one technology, may choose multiple types of service providers
City not at risk for obsolescence
Not in competition with private industry
City not in the telecommunication business
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,CONS:
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May end up with only medium high speed, .5 to 1.5 Mb/s, with reduced upstream bandwidth,
with limits on use. (Attachment C)
May utilize combination fiber and coax/copper knowing that coax/copper will eventuall~ be
obsolete and require replacement
May not provide option of fiber to the home
Private owned and operated system, City will have less control than if it owned system itself
Combination systems not easily expandable without facility changes
Private owner will be in the business to make money, possible at the expense of service to
customers; may not offer choice of services
Large variety of proposals could be difficult to evaluate fairly and in a timely manner
City may have limited control over network policies and services
May reduce the number of other competitors trying to provide service in the community
(Attachment D)
Required Resources: If this is the Council direction, staff will return with a Budget Amendment
Ordinance to fund the following:
$40,000 Consultant support during analysis of responses to the UTS-RFP
Alternative 2: Proceed with the FTTH trial, and do the UTS-RFP after the trial,
incorporating information from the trial, and assuming that FTTH will be a required
option for the overall solution to the "last mile"problem.
PRO S .’_
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Demonstrate 10 Mb/sec and 100 Mb/sec service
Demonstrate high speed Intemet access in residential environment as well as for businesses
Demonstrate 24-hour per day service (always connected)
Cost comparable with lessor technologies ($100-$200 per month)
Demonstrate fiber superiority to competing technologies
Provide cost/operation information to scale up for citywide buildout
Utilizes dark fiber ring to provide advanced telecommunication services to the community
Demonstrate market demand for high speed service; could potentially act to build a market
when performance of system is demonstrated
Potential revenue after construction costs paid off
Demonstrate construction techniques in Overhead and Underground areas (large trial only)
CONS:
®City has no expertise in "lit fiber" operation or fiber electronics
May Put City into telecommunication business, may fall under FCC rules
Installation/construction will have to be contracted out
Contract for system operation (7/24 operation, repairs, customer calls)
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Contract with single Internet service provider (ISP) for Intemet service (customers will have
one choice of ISP)
City provides funding for construction: payback period 5-8 years, City funds at risk
Delayed issuance of UTS-RFP may delay opportunity for-provision of advanced
telecommunication service by private sector
FTTH trial only provides limited information for UTS-RFP, since broader range of
technology will be considered
Not a Core Competency for City Staff
City and System Operator will face challenge of providing adequate customer
service/performance for intemet access
Difficulty in obtaining property for switch site and providing service in existing underground
area with no city owned communications conduits (large trial only)
Required Resources: If this is the Council direction, staff will return with a Budget Amendment
Ordinance to fund the following for a 69-home (medium sized) trial:
$125,000/yr w/benefits
$25,000
$380,000 Medium
($810,000) Large
$20,000
TBD
Senior Telecommunications Engineer: Design, Project
Management
Office equipment and vehicle for Senior
Telecommunications Engineer
Construction of FTTH trial: $100,000 will be collected
from residents at start of construction (medium size trial)
Construction of FTTH trial: $220,000 will be collected
from resident at start of construction (large size trial)
Trial operation: Consultant for design, construction
contract, ISP contract, system management contract
Market Assessment costs
Alternative 3: Proceed with the UTS-RFP and the FTTH trial on a parallel track.
PROS:
¯Same as listed for alternatives 1 and 2
°Provides maximum opportunity for a solution to most of the needs of the potential customers
without waiting for completion of the FTTH trial
CONS:
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°
Same as listed for alternatives 1 and 2
Dilution of staff efforts between two projects running at the same time may affect quality of
work and/or cause delays
Required Resources: If this is the Council Direction, staff will return with a Budget Amendment
Ordinance to fund the following:
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$40,000
$125,000/yr w/benefits
$25,000
$380,000 Medium
($810,000) Large
$20,000
TBD
Consultant support during RFP Response Analysis
Senior Telecommunications Engineer: Design, Project
Management
Office equipment and vehicle for Senior
Telecommunications Engineer
Construction of FTTH trial: $100,000 will be collected
from residents at start of construction (medium size trial)
Construction of FTTH trial: $220,000 will be collected
from residents at start of construction (large size trial)
Trial operation: Consultant for design, construction
contract, ISP contract, system management contract
Market Assessment costs
POLICY IMPLICATIONS
Directing staff to solicit proposals does not have any direct policy implications, but
subsequent actions could have significant policy implications, depending upon the Council’s
decision as to how to proceed with the results of the UTS-RFP and/or the FTTH trial.
In terms of issues related to pricing of the services provided by the FTTH trial, if Council
directs staff to proceed with the FTTH trial, staff recommends that Council adopt a policy
of 100 percent cost recovery for operations, and recovery of the cost of constructing the
system over five years.
Proceeding with the FTTH trial, based on its size, could put the City into the
telecommunication business and move it closer to having to comply with FCC regulations.
It would also expose the City to possible litigation from other private agencies that have
attempted to restrict municipalities from expanding into the Telecommunications business.
TIME LINE
UTS-RFP: The proposed time line is as follows:
May 99
Jun 99
Jul 99
Nov 99
Apr 00
Telecommunications Advisory Panel review
UAC review
Send out Request for Proposal
Start review of RFP responses
Recommendation to Council
FTTH: The detailed time line for a FTTH trial is described in Attachment E. The major
milestones are:
Jul 99
Sep 99
Jan O0
Market assessment report
Recommendation to Council
Start construction
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Jun 00
Jan 01
Start operations
Trial results report completed
ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
A mitigated negative declaration has been prepared finding that the project will not have
significant environmental impacts provided that mitigation measures are included in the
project. Any project undertaken as a result of the RFP or FTTH trial will be required to
adopt the mitigation measures identified in the environmental assessment that was completed
prior to the construction of the fiber backbone.
ATTACHMENTS
Attachment A:
Attachment B:
Attachment C:
Attachment D:
Attachment E:
Attachment F:
PREPARED BY:
Palo Alto Fiber Backbone Route Map
Mid-size FTTH trial area cost options
Technology Alternatives, Speed, & Cost Comparisons
Recent Headlines on Internet Access
FTTH trial Time Line
UAC Minutes of January 6, 1999
Larry Starr, Assistant Director of Utilities Engineering & Operations
Emily Harrison, Assistan,.t City Manager
DEPARTMENT HEAD:
EDWAt~D MRIZEK
Director of Utilities
CITY MANAGER APPROVAL:
FLEMING
Manager
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Deferred until 1999
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ATTACHMENT "B"
MID-SIZE FTTH TRIAL AREA
COST OPTIONS
Base Price: $342,900
ISP: Single Internet Provider
COST COMPARISONS FOR RECOVERY OF CONSTRUCTION COSTS
Community Center Area: 69 Customers
56 customers @ 10 MBPS
13 customers @ 100 MBPS
Speed Initial Payment Monthly Payment Years to Pay Back
10MBPS $1200 (Base)$35 (Base)14
100MBPS $2400 $70
10MBPS $1200 $50 (+$15)8
100mbps $2400 $85
10MBPS $1200 $65 (+$30)6
100MBPS $2400 $100
10MBPS $1200 $75 (+$40)
100M BPS $2400 $110
ADDITIONAL MONTHLY COSTS
SINGLE INTERNET SERVICE PROVIDER ESTIMATED COSTS
Speed BaselMonth Additional Megabits per day
10MBPS $50 with daily allotment of 150 Megabits $0.10
100MBPS $100 with daily allotment of 200 Megabits $0.10
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ATTACHMENT "D"
Coml~any wants to give Palo Alto cable TV, .phone and fiber access
Pac Bell slashes monthly price
for high-speed Internet service
Co-oP slashes cable modem prices.
ATTACHMENT "E"
FTTH TRIAL COMPLETION TIME
ACTIVITY
Council Directs Staff to construct a FTTH trial
LINE
DATE
APR 99
Return to Council for Resources Authorization
Complete Preliminary Design
Start preparation of Market Assessment
Complete Market Assessment in target Areas
Report Preparation
Presentation to UAC
Complete EngineeringlConstruction Specifications
Recommendation to Council
Issue Request for Bids for FTTH Trial
Construction
Internet Access/System Operation
Internet Service Provider
Award Contracts
Start Construction
Start Operation
Evaluate Network Performance
Preparation of Trial Results Report
Trial Results to UAC & Council
MAY 99
JUN 99
JUL 99
AUG 99
SEP 99
SEP 99
DEC 99
JAN 00
JUN 00
DEC 00
JAN 01
FEB 0t
ATTACHiVIENT "F"
a. Fiber-to-the-Home Proposed Trial
Vice Chair Sahagian: Is there a presentation?
Mr. Mrizek: I have a few introductory comments. I will then ask Larry Starr to make a brief
presentation on fiber-to-the-home. First, I would like to ensure that you have in your packets the
staff report that we gave to the council on December 14. Also, we have included a memorandum
from me revising one of the tables in that CMR, and that memorandum is entitled 8.a. Revised. We
also have included the "Fiber-to-the-Home Trial Technical and Budgetary Report" which was
prepared by the Palo Alto Fibemet. Those are the document we have put in your packets.
Vice Chair Saha~an: One thing I would like to mention on behalf of all of the commissioners is that
we have all, both individually and collectively, met with the fiber-to-the-home people to try to gain
a better understanding of what was being proposed from their perspective, and what some of the
issues were. We have had open discussions and discourse, so I feel that the commission has gained
a lot of insight through that. In a desire to try and avoid having dozens of people coming forward
to speak, we agreed with some of the key people in the fiber-to-the-home group that they would
make a presentation of some reasonable duration, and there will be some individual comments taken,
as well. After your presentation, they will be making a brief presentation.
Mr. Mrizek: Thank you. A year ago, the Utilities Advisory Commission recommended that the City
Council approve staffs proposal to prepare a Reqffest for Proposals to seek an entity that may be
interested in surveying some or all of the financialrisk associated with adding the infrastructure
necessary to accelerate the availability of affordable, high-speed data transport and Interact access
for all of Palo Alto. This universal service RFP would solicit proposals from organizations that may
be interested in using the city access at a discount. When I say "city access," this would be our poles,
conduit and our fiber optic backbone. This would.be the foundation of a network capable of
extending service to all areas of the city in a l:easonable amount of time.
When the council approved this RFP process last February, staff stated in the City Manager’s Report
that "an altemativ6 would be for the city to assume the financial risk by constructing and operating
its own telecommunications network to provide universal service. However, staff believes that the
financial risk may be too great to guarantee the success of this approach." Nothing has changed
since last year to alter staffs belief. Last February, while preparing the draft RFP and considering
potential approaches for the purpose of evaluating proposals, a prime preliminary fiber-to-the-home
network design emerged as a potential option.
After a thorough review of this concept, a Cit3f. Manager’s Report was submitted to the council on
December 14fla, recommending that the fiber-to-the-home trial not be done. The staff report details
several reasons for recommending against the trial. I will not go into detail on the staff report, but
I want to point out a few items.
Vice Chair $ahagian: May I interrupt with a question? Did you say that on December 14, a
recommendation was put before the council?
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Mr. Mrizek: Yes, the CMR that you find before you recommending that the trial not be done, and
we requested that council concur with the staff recommendation. This was then referred to the UAC.
First and foremost, we feel that it is a significant policy issue as to whether the city wants to enter
into a telecommunications business with a city-financed, city-constructed and city-operated fiber-to-
the-home network. Should the city compete against private enterprise in an industry where the
technology is, at best, a moving target and also is not an essential utility service? The primary reason
for doing a fiber-to-the-home trial would be to gather information for scaling up the results to a
citywide network. The financial risks,.staffmg impacts and long-term operating impacts of doing
a trial are significant, and a trial should only be considered as a prelude to building out a city
telecommunications system.
With deregulation of the electric industry, the Palo Alto electric utility will continue to face increased
compe!ition. Currently, the electric utility reserves are fmancially sound as a result of long-term
planning and sound business decisions. However, as the UAC knows, we are still collecting the
transition cost recovery charge in our rates to deal with standard costs for the Calaveras hydroelectric
project. One may surmise that competition will only affect the supply business, and the distribution
business will not face this competition. Therefore, we can support projects like fiber-to-the-home.
This, however, is not the case. The California Public Utilities Commission recently issued an order
instituting rule-making on the commission’s own motion to solicit comments and proposals on
distributed generation and competition in eleclric utility distribution service. This rule-making will
provide the CPUC the opportunity to consult with .thb legislature, the state administration, and other
authorities that have jurisdiction or an interestin electric distribution issues. The reality of this
action is that the Palo Alto distribution business must remain competitive. Additional program, s to
impact the cost of doing business and its use of existing staffmust be prioritized.
Finally, I want to state that staffis committed to the di~.ec~ion of the council guidelines to accelerate
the deployment of advanced communications to the citizens and businesses of Palo Alto to enhance
competition among telecommunication service providers at limited or no financial exposure to the
city. We believe that the RFP process seeking an entity that will work with the city does satisfy these
guidelines. I will now turn this over to Larry Start for a brief presentation On the fiber-to-the-home
.project.
Mr. Starr: I have some overhead projections that will explain what a trial would look like. We did
a survey and solicited input from citizens of Palo Alto that would be interested in participating in
a trial. We have put together three different areas that could be considered. We have one that was
considered small, and we had a medium sized area, and one that was considered a larger size area
So in the interest of saving time, we did a very detailed analysis and cost estimate for what we
considered to be the medium sized area, which was for 69 residential customers. This area is what
we called East and West of Newell. The switch equipment would be located in the substation at
Hopkins. That is the extent of the work that has been done on an initial design where we would
provide service to all of the customers in what we consider to be the medium sized area.
This slide shows the basic configuration of fiber-to-the-home. This is the existing fiber ring, and we
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would need to construct a switch site. From the switch site, we would nm an individual pair of
fibers to every customer. So they would go out over the system, and at each place where we would
break them out for a customer, we would have this splice device, and then a service dropruns into
the home, with a box on the side of the home, where we would make another splice, go through the
customer’s wall and on into their computer system.
One of the things that is clear to us in a fiber situation like this is that it is very labor-intensive.
There is no magic in the electronics. That is fairly straightforward. The prices have come down, and
there is no magic in the connection up to the computer. They currently have the Ethernet system to
do that. But the heart of the system is out here in the fiber and also in that splice enclosure. Let me
show you what that looks like. (He displays a segment of the system) I had our fiber staffput this
together for you. We need to run a messenger along the distribution lines, and we lash our fiber
cable to it. Everywhere that we would want to break out for a number of customers, we need one
of these splice enclosures. This is a typical 144-fiber cable. There are twelve bundles of twelve
fibers ~ this cable. You need to make a slack loop so there is enough slack in the fibers to cut them
apart, splice them and break out the individual service drop.
One thing that is different in the fiber-to-the-home as opposed to a wire system or a coax system is
that you cannot tap offthe fibers. So from the switch enclosure, you physically have to run a fiber
from that location to everyone’s home. That is why it takes so many fibers -- two fibers for the home.
So in this cable, theoretically, 144 fibers could serve 72 customers. Since there are a lot of homes
in Palo Alto, it takes a lot of cable and a lot of spli.c~s to serve the customers. You do not get very
far away from the switch sites before you run ~3ut’of fi’ber and have to either build another switch site
or do some other work with more switches to extend it. There is no tapping offof fiber. It eaunot
be used like coax. This would be added out there onto the current distribution system in front along
the streets and also on our rear easement in backyards.
This slide shows an underground splice, and we have some areas where we would have to make an
underground splice. Again, it is the same proposition. You can see that the cane goes in and out.
The fibers are all broken out and laid in trays where they can be spliced and tapped, and individual
services run. The message I want to give you is that it is labor-intensive. It takes time to do this.
The fibers are little. You need good eyesight and good color vision, since they are color coded, and
that is the only way you can tell them apart.
This slide shows the cost estimate that we did. We took the medium size area, and we took our fiber
staff, our engineering staff, our telecommunications manager, our consultant, and our operations
staff, and we all sat down and spent a full day working out these costs so that we were comfortable
in knowing that for this amount of money, we could construct this facility. Following that, we met
with the residents from P.A. Fibemet, and they gave us some good input on better prices for some
of the electronics equipment. We agreed that we could get by with two fibers, as opposed to four,
as originally proposed. So we have a revised estimate. Our price changed from approximately
$443,000 down to $375,600. That is what is in the December 14 CMR.
This slide shows what our infrastructure looks like out in the real world. PacBel owns anywhere
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from 19 to 22 feet on the bottom of our joint poles. They have a small space above that. There is
a small space for communications, and then clearance to our electric secondary. As you notice, some
of the distances are zero. Where we are out on the streets, we have power poles in the 45-50-foot
range. There is adequate clearance, and that is where we strung our existing fiber ring. When you
get into backyard lot lines and backyard facilities, a lot of those poles are 35-40 feet high, and all of
a sudden, our communication clearance space goes to zero. So to build out an entire facility, it
would require a number of poles to be replaced simply because we do not have clearance. The other
alternative is to inlMnge upon the 4-6-foot clearance for the electric secondary area. We, as the
owner, can do that, but it also takes a qualified electrical worker to do that, and that means electric
.line personnel. You cannot just send .your regular fiber folks out to work in that space, so that is
another restriction on its use.
This is what it might look like to use our existing underground facilities. The main point here is a
primary vault where we have our electric transformers from the vaults. We go to secondary vaults,
and frdm there we go to the homes with the electric service. If we were to run fiber there, we would
have to try and use existing conduit with electric facilities already in it and hope that you can get
your fiber through there, or if we have spare duct, the spare duct can be used. Basically, from the
transformer vault out to the home, we typically do not run spare conduit for the electric system. We
have spare conduit for the primary in a lot of locations. So to simply say we have the ability to use
our own conduit is not quite correct. We can use it if we can get something through it. What we
have found in stringing the current fiber ring is that not all conduit is usable. So we would have to
either construct new conduit or contemplate pulli.n~, out existing facilities and pulling in the same
facilities along with another fiber cable. So’ther~ are some drawbacks. That concludes our
presentation.
Commissioner Gruen: Larry, do I correctly understand that in the underground case, you would
break out all 144 fibers in each of the underground locations?
Mr. Starr: If you are nmning a 144-fiber cable through there, you need to take the jacket offthe
whole thing. You may only open up one of the 12 inner tubes and break the fibers out of that.
Typically, what we would probably do is to cut all twelve, splice the ones that drop.service to the
customers, and resplice ’the others. It is too difficult to try and pry them apart and just cut a few.
That is what the trays are for. They make it easier to keep track of the spliced fibers.
Commissioner Gruen: How is that different from overhead?
Mr. Starr: You are down in a vault as opposed to being up on a ladder or in a bucket. But basically,
the work is the same.
Commissioner Gruen: So in the overhead case, you would also cut the entire 144 fibers, and splige
the ones you were not going to use?
Mr. Start: No, let’s say we had service at one of our splice points for three homes. We would take
the black jacket off the cable, and we would then have the 12 colored bundles in there, as you saw
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in our container (looks like spaghetti). We would take one of those and cut that completely. We
would skin back the colored jacket on that one, take six of those, two each to the three homes, and
splice on a service drop fiber’ conductor. We would splice back together the remaining six, and they
would continue on to another home down the street.
Vice Chair Sahagian: How would t~e connection to a home differ fi:om a connection to, say, some
of the commercial locations we are looking at and contracting for in terms of complexity?
Mr. Mrizek: Currently, we are not connecting the electronics to any business in Palo Alto. ~We are
leasing dark fiber off the fiber backbone to a service provider. What that service provider does with
dark those fibers, if that company ties in with a commercial customer, it is that service provider’s
responsibility to provide the electronics and the connection to that commercial establishment. For
a fee, we would break out the dark fiber and run it to the property of the commercial company, still
dark fiber, and charge for that service up front. After that, we walk away, and we provide the
highway. The service provider does everything else.
Vice Chair Sahagian: So basically, all of the agreements we have entered in thus far have strictly
been interconnections by somebody else?
Mr. Mrizek: Absolutely.
Vice Chair Sahagian: I am very sensitive to the co.rfiments that you made about economic viability.
I could not help but notice in the Cost Recov~ryAnaiysis that the annual net revenue is a very small
percentage of the total system cost, so that it would seem that a relatively small change in the system
cost number would dramatically change the annual net revenue. Is that a fair assessment?
Mr. Starr: The net revenue does not have anything tq do with the cost of the installation. The net
revenue is the money we receive from the monthly payments that the customers make to you, minus
whatever costs we have to maintain the system.
Vice Chair Sahagian: In your financing assumptions, can you refresh my memory on what your
assumptions were of your financing?
Mr. Starr: We used the city’s interest rate that they make on their reserve money, which is
approximately 6%.
Commissioner Dawes: I know that the citizens’ group has a major presentation to make, and I am
not sure how we expect to deal with all of the issues that come up, but certainly one of the major
items that affects the payback period, which is what is the most troublesome to the management of
the utility department and to the commission, is the annual revenue for these test sites, however they
are sliced and diced. When I met with the fiber-to-the-home people on Sunday, I voiced my interest
in the assumptions underlying the revenue side. I also pointed out that I have been a subscriber to
the DSL Service by Pacific Bell, which is a new, higher-speed service, but considerably slower than
what is being proposed here. We discussed the monthly costs of this service in comparison to the
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fiber to the home. My opinion at this point is that the assumptions underlying the revenue side are
ones that should be discussed and thought through very thoroughly, because the payback periods are
extremely sensitive to monthly revenue figures, whether $35 or $40 or some other number, but a
Pacific Bell service oriented to the home is considerably more expensive for a considerably slower
service, so again, I don’t know if we want to talk about staffs disinclination to go forward with this
based on the finances and the risks involved, which may turn on assumptions that I feel need to be
discussed and looked at very closely. Is this the time to talk about that, or after we hear from the
folks present tonight?
Vice Chair Saha~an: You have made a very good point about the sensitivity to the payback period.
I believe that is going to be part of.the focus of the fiber-to-the-home people’s presentation. I would
say, let’s hear their thoughts, and then look at the whole picture in a broad context. Seeing no one
wishing to make further comments to be made, we can open the public heating.
Michael Eager. President, Palo Alto Fiber Network. 1960 Park Boulevard. Palo Alto: It is a pleasure
to be able to speak with you. I appreciate the fact that you were able to hear this on short notice. I
also want to thank the city staff for their cooperation. The Palo Alto Fiber Network is a broad-based
community group that was formed in August of last year to pursue and support the fiber-to-the-home
trial. We would not be here if the city had not had the foresight to start a dark fiber ring. In creating
the dark fiber ring, the city set up several policies. These were described in the city manager’s report
of 1996, and I will not read all of it, but the city felt that it was an extension of the city’s long-
standing policy of providing utilities infi:astru.cthre. Another major point was. accelerated
deployment of advanced, broadband telecomrhunicafions to all of the citizens and businesses in Palo
Alto. So what we are interested in doing is pursuing this same goal, the same objectives, of bringing
fiber to the home for the benefit of all of the citizens.
We are here tonight to talk about a trial in two neighbor.hoods delivering fiber to the home. As stated
by Mr. Mfizek, we see this as a stepping stone to our long-term goal of having affordable
connectivity, high-speed bandw, idth to all of the citizens of Palo Alto. The benefits of fiber to the
home are: better communication within the community, better working environments,
telecommuting, or a viable work environment for people who are disabled or home-bound; new
services -- more services than you can probably imagine (the library to the home has been
mentioned). With unparalleled bandwidth, we have unparalleled value. I don’t know that we can
imagine all the possible uses that high-speed access will provide. I would like to turn this over .to
Ken Poulton who will talk about some of the nitty-gritty details.
Ken Poulton, 884 Los Robles Avenue. Palo Alto: I work at I-IP and live in the Barron Parl~ fiber trial
area. An important background question is, do homes really use the Intemet? A federal government
survey shows that nationally, we have about 30% PC ownership, but in Palo Alto, it is about 80%.
The important thing that the federal study showed is that right now, we are at about 80% of the
homes with computers that also connect to the Intemet. We can extrapolate that about two-thirds
of Palo Alto homes presently, or about 16,000 homes, are connected to the Intemet. That traffic, of
course, is growing very rapidly.
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Is fiber optic service a good value? The thing to note is that since this is a technical commission
here, we have done this on a logarithmic scale, and we have the other services, the medium
bandwidth services are at one megabit per second, and fiber at ten times the speed, and our 100
megabit service at 100 times the speed. The costs are quite comfortable, in terms of monthly cost.
I would like to show a little about the parts of the network,.because we need to use these terms. At
the bottom, we have Infrastructure, the actual wiring, poles, switching equipment. Then there is
Network Operations, the day-to-day operations of running a network. That includes functions of
billing and customer support. An important piece of the network, a part that has significant cost, is
Intemet access. An Internet access provider.is someone who carries user data between the local
network and the Intemet. Services can be local on the local network, or they can be accessed through
the Interact anywhere in the world.
So where do the construction costs go for such a system? You can see immediately that the labor
is reall~ where this goes. Cable is the second part, and most of each of these portions is in nmning
the big cables down the street. Only about 20% of system cost is in the connections to individual
homes. The total for the full-size trial that is proposed is $753,000, of which 30% is to be paid up
front by user installation fees. That dollar figure is a little different from the city manager’s report,
and the reason is that in the original December city manager’s report, it had one set of cost figures,
and those showed cost recovery for the full-size trial in 40 years. The revision of that report last
week reduced the estimate of the construction costs by $74,000, and that brought us to 26 years
projected cost recovery.
We propose to make two changes to the proposal. The first one was actually suggested in November
by city staffwhen we met with them. It is to use a single Intemet access provider who also does the
network operations function. This is simply a matter of recognizing a small-scale operation. It does
not pay to build your own network center for the city, .so it has both a construction cost impact and,
more importantly, it has an operational cost impact which affects cost recovery. So making that
change brings us to the 13-year cost recovery that we can get.
The other change that we propose making is relatively minor, that is, increasing the user fee from
$35 to $40. We believe’that is an acceptable level of increase beyond the original survey that will
not significantly reduce participation. We have also left out from thi~ analysis at this point $55,000
of other construction cost reductions that we have identified, however, we can ignore those because
of the January revision of the report.
The bottom line is if participation increases. We will say a little bit later why we believe
participation will increase later, but if we increase participation by 50% over the initial rate, we will
reduce the payback period to six, and if you double it, the payback period is four years.’
This slide shows graphically the cost recovery for three different participation rates. It starts out
showing the costs that the city has up front, and we achieve a 10-year cost recovery at the current rate
of signups. If we have more signups later, it comes back faster. So a significant question that has
concerned the city staff.is, who is going to do what in this network enterprise. In particular, city staff
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does not have the expertise at this time. If we look at the long-term vision, the city, of course, is the
logical entity to do the fiber infrastructure. They have the experience with that, they own the poles,
easements are much easier for them to do, and that is pretty straightforward. Network Operations
is something that city could if it wanted to, or it could hire those out to a network operator. The
definition of what comes under Netw.ork Operations is variable. Where does the dividing line occur?
That is something the city can choose. In the long run, we want to have multiple Internet access
providers. This is a function which can and should be competitive. With a city-owned system, it
can be competitive.
Again, in th~ trial we propose to merge the network operator and Internet access provider functions,
just recognizing that a small system cannot do everything.
Mr. Eager: Let’s answer some of the difficult questions. Why should the City of Palo Alto be
involved in fiber to the home? It is building the roads, just like we build the infrastructure for other
services. It is a utility that will take us into the next century. We will be needing the telecom
development policies that the city has established. We will be encouraging competition as described
in the Federal Telecom Act of 1996. It will provide additional revenue that the City of Palo Alto
utilities will need. It has been identified earlier. This will provide a significant source of revenue,
and it allows the city to set the policies. It allows the city to encourage competition between
providers, it allows fair access, and it promotes high quality service.
We believe that the city should own the fiber-to-the-’home system. The benefits were described in
the dark fiber proposal of 1996. Diversification of revenue income and minimizing right-of-way
disruptions.
We have heard a lot about financial risk. The December 14 CMR discussed that in great detail. The
city is being asked to provide 70% of the cost, or about, $530,000 for the trial. The residents will be
covering the remaining 30%. There has been a concern expressed that, well, they will install it and
then quit. No, with a significant investment, the users will continue to use the Service. Cost
recovery in ten years -- even with a small number of people in the trial, we believe ten years is a
reasonable time frame.. With greater participation, which we believe would happen as soon as the
trial commences and is announced, and certainly when it has been demonstrated to be working, we
believe that we could have a payback period of 3.6%, which is i~ very competitive return on
investment. "
There is a concern about stranded costs. We believe that with 70% of the construction cost
investment, the city should have, if it chose to, a property that could be sold at a profit. So we
believe the financial risks are minimal. We cannot say that they are zero. I believe that expecting
zero risk is unrealistic, but we believe that they are very reasonable, especially in light of the
benefits.
Are there other risks? Yes, there are always other risks. There are competitive technologies. The
competition of the DSL service, cable modems, IDSN lines, they are all slower speed services. Fiber
to the home is far more upgradable than any old service based upon copper technology, whether it
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be cable or twisted pair telephone lines. The fiber-to-the-home charges are very moderate. They are
priced to recover in a reasonable amount of time. The other potential is competitive fiber-to-the-
home systems. Although we do not know of anyone planning to do this, if companies were to come
in and install fiber in a given area, what they will likely do is cherry pick. They will pick the
profitable things, the profitable installations, leaving the individual residents with no access and at
the same time, make it uneconomic to bring fiber into those areas. So the biggest risk that we see
is in missing an opportunity.
There was mention made of the RFP process. As we see it, the RFP process is running around
asking somebody, "What would you like to build?" What you are going to get is their answer rather
than our answer. The dark fiber ring would be much less than 10% of the expense of any fil~er-to-
the-home system. We do not believe that businesses are likely to want to share their business plans
with the city when the city’s participation would be so small. We also believe that the city would
have no control. The citizens would have no control over any system that was built on the basis of
What do we want to see fi:om the trial? We want to demonstrate that fiber to the home is a practical
project that pays for itself. We want to refine the construction and operational costs. In some areas,
we have questions about whether these costs are realistic. We know that the city is very good about
estimating costs, and in some areas, we believe that the estimates appear higher than we would
expect. We want to see real numbers so that we have a real cost model.
We want to work out the operational detail~-arid th~ user support model. The city has expressed
concern about how to. handle someone who calls because they do not have the Intemet dial tone that
they expect. We believe that the network manager should handle that, and we want the trial to show
how that would work..We want to rneasure user satisfaction; we want to measure the participation
rate based on real installations, not based on a single flyer in the utility bill or on somebody walking
down the street saying, "Hey, Joe, do you want to be involved."
The fiber-t0-the-home trial will bring the benefits of high-speed Internet access to the residents, not
just to the business community. It will increase the awareness, and it will increase the demand for
fiber to the home. Paradoxically, one of the comments that Mr. Mrizek had the other day was that
when we start fiber to the home in one area, you are going to get ’a demand in other areas. The
answer is yes, you will. I think that is good marketing. It is not a problem. It is an opportunity.
The trial will reduce the uncertainties. The city manager’s report is filled with uncertainties. It is
filled with unknowns about financing, and it is filled with unknowns about participation. We believe
that the trial is the best way to answer those unknowns. We will not answer them by guessing at
what the answers are.
So these are the phases. The ill’st phase is completed, as the backbone is built. What we want now
is the trial. The cost is roughly a half million dollars. We want to measure the user satisfaction,
refine cost estimates, and produce recommendations on how to proceed with a citywide roll-out.
Then we want to see the next step, which is the citywide roll-out.
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We believe that the fiber to the home is technically feasible, we believe that the cost estimates are
realistic, we believe that the revenue is realistic, and we believe that the financial risk is manageable.
We believe that serving the citizens of Palo Alto is at least as important as providing fiber to
businesses. We believe that city ownership of fiber to the home represents unique benefits in
diversification of revenue and control and increasing competition. So what we recommend is that
the city approve an amendment to the budget amendment ordinance authorizing funding for the trial,
approve collections of 25-35% of the initial cost from the users, with the pricing to recover over ten
years, and direct staff to execute the fiber-t0-the-home trial expeditiously, and report back results.
What we would like the UAC to do is to entertain a motion recommending that the City of Palo Alto
proceed and build the fiber-to-the-home trial.
(Shows a slide of a Palo Altan’s view of the world with Palo Alto at the center) Palo Alto is the
center of technology in the United States. It is the center of the Intemet. Palo Alto Intemet
Exchange carries a significant portion of the traffic on the Intemet. The country looks to Palo Alto
for leadership. What we want to do is to continue this technology leadership into the 21st century,
and we want to do that with fiber to the home. Thank you.
Vice Chair Sahagian: We will now hear from the rest of those people wishing to speak.
Andy Poggio, 2708 Gaspar Court. Palo Alto: I would like to talk to you about three things -- (1)
Why fiber to the home? (2) My assessment of the design plan that has just been summarized and
which I have read about previously; (3) The issues.tliat I see. I know that this organization does not
know me, so I will introduce myself. I aria-the director of the package systems group at Sun
Microsystems. I began using the Internet in 1978. In those days, you had to be part inventor, part
user to actually use it, and have been using E-mail for a number of years before that. I have built
networking products that go from 128 kilobits per second ISDN up to multiple gigabit ethemet. So
I have some experience in the broad range of technolggy that I have been working with, both as a
creator and as a user.
So I would like to start with, Why fiber to the home? I believe the Intemet has, in fact, become a
fundamental utility. But it is very much in its infancy. We do not all see that yet. I think it feels a
little like perhaps electricity felt at the beginning of the century. But I believe the Interact has now
become the most valuable information resource in the world. Why is that? For several reasons.
One, it is up to date. The time-line on information documents on the Internet is measured in seconds
and minutes rather than months and years in the traditional library. It is worldwide. You have equal
access to every continent and every source of information on the earth with almost equal ease. And
lastly, it is hugely broad. A search on the Internet today on almost any topic you can imagine will,
in fact, turn up useful information, and do so very quickly.
Palo Alto is a city that very wisely has been willing to invest highly in local libraries despite the fact
that, for example, in San Francisco, we have quite a good library, and in Washington, D.C.; an even
better one. But that is not good enough for Palo Alto. We want and need local libraries. Distance
for libraries is much like bandwidth for the Internet. Using a modem to get connected to the Internet
is a little like trying to use the library in Washington, D.C. It is slow, and you use it infrequently.
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Medium speed services are more like trying to use the library in San Francisco, a little better, but still
inconvenient, and we use it infrequently. High bandwidth access to the Internet is like having local
libraries. It is fast, it is quick, and it gets used a lot. It is an extremely worthwhile investment.
I also want to remind everybody about the ~esponse to the utility mailing on the interest in fiber to
the home. I think that some people were actually disappointed with an 18% response rate. But I
want to put this in the context of what these mailings are actually like. I am an engineer, not a
marketer, so I talked to some marketing people, and they said that if you have a very targeted mailing
list and you are very, very fortaJnate, you get a 3% response rate. That is if you know who you are
sending it to and that reasonably, they will be interested. If you just target a geographic area, as we
did with the utility mailing on fiber to the home, a one or two percent response rate is a very good
response rate. We arguably got ten times better than a very good response rate. This is a huge
response rate. It may not have been obvious to everybody, but this is phenomenal, almost unheard
of.
Lastly, on why fiber to the home, I can tell you that I like living in Palo Alto better than anyother
city in the United States. And I would like my kids to feel -that way about Palo Alto, as well. My
reasons depend, to a certain extent, on wise decisions that Palo Alto has made in the past. For my
kids, it will be the things that we do from now on. Building fiber to the home is one of those things
we can do to make Palo Alto an exciting city for future generations.
Now I would like to comment briefly on the design.-I went over the entire documents that were put
together by Palo Alto-Fibemet that we have just heard about. Good design, using the right standards,
Ethemet and IP, the technology ha~ a lengthy lifetime, relatively conservative costs, and, I believe,
little risk for the city. The issues that I see are that we only have a limited market window. IfPG&E
had come in in the early days of Palo Alto, even with inferior technology at a higher cost, we would
not have our own electric utility in Palo Alto. The same thing will happen with Intemet access. We
need to move quickly, or the opporttmity is lost. I believe the major issue is that our leadership needs
a vision to see that this is an essential utility, the will to move obstacles out of the way, and to move
forward quickly on both the fiber-to-the-home trial and a citywide roll-out. Thank you.
Todd Carothers. 1143 Borregas Avenue. Sunnwale. CA: Thank you very much. I represent a
company in Sunnyvale, California called California Microwave. California Microwave, on August
20, purchased a~ company in Cambridge, UK, called Adaptive Broadband. Adaptive Broadband was
a spinoff from Oracle and Olivetti Research Lab in Cambridge, UK, and they developed a wireless
technology that I wanted to bring to your attention. That is why I am here today.
The first initial release of the system is out now and is currently being field-trialed. It is a 25 megabit
per second system, bi-directional wireless that operates in what is called the five gigahertz miniband.
What that stands for is the unlicensed national information infrastructure band. This band is set by
the the FCC, and there is no cost to use the spectrum. So if you have the equipment, there is no cost
to use the frequency. The implication of wireless, the big implication, from sitting here and looking
at the reports and talking about some of the costs, is trenching. With the wireless system, you
obviously have no trenching involved. The system is similar to cellular systems. It is deployed in
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that way. You have towers that have access points around the system itself¯ When you want to set
up a subscriber or residence or a small business, you simply put in an antenna. The antenna is 8 x
8" by two inches deep. You can mount it right on the customer’s building, a cable drops down, it is
cat five, and they have access to the system¯ That is all there is to it. It is all based on IPO, and that
is ATM over in the air. [Note: This.paragraph contained many technical words that were unclear.]
With the roll-out and the trenching implication, I really want to point out that when you do anything
with any kind of wire-based system, whether it be copper or fiber, you have a step-cost structure
where you have to do certain sections at a time, but with wireless, you simply put up another
antenna, and you have added that subscriber.
The system is already being field-tested by IFC’s regional Bell companies, and IFC’s, of course, are
the international exchange carrier. Internationally, it is also being tested, and local exchange carriers
that co.mpete with PacBell and those types. [More unclear technical terms]
We did do a presentation to staff on December 22, and we proposed to them that we would offer a
free trial to the City of Palo Alto of our equipment. We .are willing to find a partner on the services
side to make this happen. The specific numbers have not been negotiated, but again, I want to bring
forth the idea that it is a free trial on our equipment with no cost whatsoever to the city on the
equipment, on the infrastructure. That is what California Microwave does. We manufacture this
equipment, we are willing to provide a free trial, and obviously, there is no risk from the point of
investing in equipment.
To sum up, my whole purpose of being here today is to present this as another alternative, I did not
see wireless discussed today, but I think it is very important for the city to take a look at that, as there
are some serious concept implications. We would be glad to come back and give a full presentation
if you desire. Thank you very much. .
Frank R. Robles. 401 Town and Country. Village. Palo Alto: Hello. My name is Frank Robles, and
I am the CEO of NanoSpace, Inc., a network solutions company here in Palo Alto. We would like
to endorse the fiber-to-the-home trial being presented here today. The fiber-to-the-home report
presented today by the Palo Alto FiberNet community group is the culmination of an enormous
amount of effort from the community, the city staff, and the private,~ector. Thousands of hours of
research and study have been contributed. Palo Alto is truly a special and talented place.
As some of you may know, NanoSpace has licensed dark fiber from the city and is delivering
broadband connectivity to corporate and residential sectors¯ We were founded four years ago and
have been providing Intemet solutions to corporations and individuals¯ Broadband services are an
evolutionary step for our company.
It has been mentioned that the communications business is a difficult one, particularly if a company
wants to begin now. I would agree. But I believe that the city can complete this project and avoid
becoming a communications company. We have a great deal of expertise in this area and would like
to work with the community and the city. NanoSpace is flexible and can contribute to this project
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at a number of levels. We could be the access provider, as designated in the current report, where
we could leverage our existing network here in Palo Alto and decrease costs to the city as well as
provide a broader servic~ offering to the residents. We could also help by being the network
operator, again leveraging our existing infrastructure. And finally, we could partner with the city and
be the engineering resource that terminates the dark fiber, installs the switching equipment required,
and lights up and tests the network.
We were approached at the beginning of last year by Warren Kallenbach with the simple request to
provide service to his neighborhood. The technical details have long been worked out, so let’s
deliver that service to the residents of this community. Thank you.
Colin Mick, 2130 Hanover Street, Palo Alto: I am here wearing multiple hats. I had not at first
thought I was going to talk. I am a 30-year resident of Palo Alto and an ex-neighborhood association
organiz.er. I am a home businessperson using an Intemet-enabled business, and I pay a fair price to
do it. I am also pretty inextricably involved through my business with much of the technology that
is being discussed here, and I am one of the movers behind fast Ethernet and the gigabit Ethemet
technologies that are in here, and I am one of those people who develops the standards for that, and
the standards for some of the switching material you are talking about here tonight. Then the fifth
hat I put on here is that I have about 20 years worth of experience in looking at telecommtmications
innovation and following these, going back to the first on-line work with public libraries,
telemedicine, teleconferencing, and I have participate~d in most of those experiments. So I am talking
from a fairly broad range of experience here, and I was going to start with the comment that when
we were working with paper-based systems,’ w~ used to use a good rule of thumb, which was that
the use decreased as the square of the distance from the person to the source. The inverse is kind of
true when we deal with bandwidth. The more bandwidth you have~ the easier it is to get information
and the more likely we are to have use.
When I have heard some of the discussion here from the utilities folks, with all due respect, I am
reminded of the historic preservation discussions I have been heating here in the council chambers,
and I start thinking, did we have these same discussions when we were heating about new-fangled
innovations likeroads, sewers, and electricity? The one that is probably the closest to what we are
talking about today is actually roads, because the Internet is very much a two-way street, and it is
terribly important to understand that. Some of the stuff that I hmie heard here today that really
concerns me is the emphasis on labor costs and on material costs. I am here to tell you, as somebody
who has been working in this business for 30 years, that this stuff scales, and it scales remarkably.
We have not have not gotten a lot of experience yet on scaling the kinds of splicing we are talking
about with fiber today, but I have been working with fiber connections for about six or seven years
here, and I can tell you that I have seen dramatic reductions in the cost of connectorization of fiber,
and I would expect that if we see the kind of scenarios that we see here with dark fiber, we are going
to see the same sort of thing with splicing, and this will significantly reduce the labor cost involved,
because we all understand that that is one of the big costs in cabling, and let me tell you, the cabling
industry understands how to cut costs. The second part is the materials, and they go down, as well.
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I do not see this as being an obstacle over time. The issue is to get some experience now so that we
can understand it and we can also evaluate other options, such as wireless, and understand what they
mean, particularly in an area like Palo Alto which enjoys an extremely healthy tree cover, which
gives some interesting challenges to wireless technology.
I see some economic impact, but I do not hear much talk here about what the impact
will be on Palo Alto of having a system like this. I see this as being a fairly major economic booster
having this kind of bandwidth available from the home. I work from the home, which means I have
a minimum impact on the city’s infi’astmcture in the revenue-producing activities that I conduct, but
I spend my money here in Palo Alto,.so you ought to think about that, as well. ~Thank you very
much.
Richard Adler. 425 Seale Avenue, Palo Alto: I have lived at this address for 25 years and am a 27-
year resident of Palo Alto. I am a member of Palo Alto Community Networks but not a member of
Palo Alto Fibemet, nor a resident of the proposed neighborhoods for the trial, but I do want to speak
in support of the trial just very briefly.
I also run a business from my home and have been involved with these kinds of technologies for a
long time, and I think this is very, very important stuff. I am not a technologist, but there is one
technical point that I think ought to be made about the revolutionary importance of fiber, and that
is that it is not only high speed, but it is always on. In some ways, I think that is as important as the
fact that it is very high speed. You do not have to dial: up and log on. It is always on, and that brings
a whole array of services which, through dial~fip gervices, no matter how fast, you just simply earmot
do for monitoring and getting on line. So it is equally as important as high speed.
I want to make one comment beyond that. Palo Alto is an unusual community and is one of the
reasons why a lot of us like to live here. I think we are, extremely fortunate in having a resource in
this community that is unusual, maybe unique, and that is the competence and the knowledge and
the vision of its residents. One of the things that strikes me, sitting here and listening to the
presentation and in listening to the folks from the audience talking about it, is that there is a
tremendous reservoir of:knowledge and imagination that this city can tap into and take advantage
of. This is not something the city has to do by itself. In a way, what you are really being asked to
do is to enable the citizens to do what citizens should be doing, that is,’to improve the quality of their
own lives. So there is no question in my mind that fiber is the future. The question is, just when is
it going to arrive? And when will Palo Alto get to that future? Sooner, in this case, is terrifically
important, so I would say to you, take heart, be a little bit bold, and I think there is a very exciting
future ahead for all of us. Thank you.
Jay Thorwaldson, 400 Channing Avenue, Palo Alto: Thank you very much. I am Director of Public
Affairs at the Palo Alto Medical Foundation, but I am speaking as an individual tonight. I spent
many years in these council chambers from the mid-1960s to the late 1970s as a reporter for the Palo
Alto Times, taking many notes. I listened much more than I talked.
However, I have also been very interested in the general flow of communications among people.
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My interest is not so much in the technology but in what happens when you make the technology
available for people to use. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, I was a lecturer in communications
at Stanford University, and I predicted as early as 1977 to my classes on the future of
commtmications that in the future, most people would get most of their information through, their
computers. One of the students asked me, what happens if you want to have a hard copy (although
he did not use that term), but what if he wanted to keep a copy of it. I said we will all probably have
printers in our homes and go click, click, click and print something out. They looked at me as
though I was from Mars or Venus. In early 1983-1984, with Joe Villareal and some others in the
community, we created an interagency communications network, the I.C.Network, among the 20
social service agencies in the community using Apple II computers on loan and 300 baud modems.
We know what slow communications are. We worked it for a year-and-a-half, then gave up,
thinking we were 10 or 15 years ahead of our time technologically. The time is now technologically,
and now is the time to create it. Several years ago, I did an article for the San Jose Mercury on the
job explosion in the Santa Clara County Silicon Valley. I asked one of the
Council people I was getting input from, what do you think the role of the Internet is going to be?
He said that the Internet is going to be the absolute basis for commerce in the next century, and I
believe that. I also believe that properly fashioned, properly rolled out, it will be the absolute basis
for community in the next century, as well, if we build it right. We are at a window of time that I,
in the past 35 years when I have been a close observer of and participant in Palo Alto, I have never
seen a window as significant as the one we are facing now and in the coming weeks.
My final point is that it is my belief and convictior~-that if there is a bigger cost, there is a bigger
opportunity. Some of the excellent speakers t~night fiave spoken about the opportunities. There is
also a huge danger. One of the things that has made Palo Alto magical is that the Terman boys that
created the Stanford Industrial Park, the visionaries, the engineers, the people that came here, Palo
Alto has had a magic attraction, a magnetism about it because of the kind of vision and the
wherewithal to turn that vision into a practical reality, Which the people here have demonstrated over
the many, many decades. At this point, this is that kind of magical moment. If we do not move,
other people are moving. Communities like Ashland, Oregon are moving in this area to bring fiber
to the entire community. Then we see what happens. This is connections with a TV program on
steroids right now as the potential on this, but if we slip fi’om that position, within the next few years,
Palo Alto, and you already saw when the staff report was reported in the Mercury and in the
Chronicle and some of the radio stations, a lot of attention is being paid to Palo Alto. So if you turn
away from this decision possibility, I think there is going to be a very significant loss of some of that
aura that Palo Alto has enjoyed.
Finally, a friend of mine pointed out that the cost that we are talking about for this fiber trial (I have
spent many years on these red seats here, and I think these should historically preserved) is less than
the projected cost of the renovation of the council chambers, and yet, think of the difference in the
potential for what we could bring to this community or not, whether we put up with the council seats
for another ten years or go for this experiment. Thank you.
Randall Strickfaden. 3537 Julie Court. Palo Alto: I am a PaIo Alto resident of 20 years in the Barton
Park area, and I am also the Manager of Networks and Telecommunications for Hewlett-Packard
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Laboratories in Palo Alto. I have experience similar to Mr. Poggio, both in local, metropolitan and
wide-area networking. We have worldwide responsibilities, as well as responsibilities on the other
side of the next cubiclE.
Many of the things I was going to elaborate on were touched upon by other speakers, so I will just
add a couple of brief comments.
I have reviewed the proposal as it has been put together by the Palo Alto Fibernet folks, and I find
it to be technically sound. I think it is something you can go forward with in confidence fi:om a
technical risk perspective. I think that anything the city does in this area should not be entered into
lightly. This is a utility that is unlike any of the other utilities that Palo Alto has been involved in
previously. The impact of that should be carefully considered and understood, and it will require a
significant commitment, because you have to develop a new kind of core competencies. Some of
those a.h’eady exist today. You have started down that path with the fiber ring, but there are a lot of
others that you have to layer on top of that as you want to go forward with something like this.
The reason for Palo Alto to do this, in my opinion, is because the city is in a unique position to add
value that some of the commercial providers which cannot or are unwilling to do. That is something
that I think Palo Alto can uniquely do where a commercial provider could not be motivated to do
something like that. Another point I would make here is that there are significant implications for
community. Some of the things we are doing in Palo Alto are about community. This is one of
those things that will really challenge the definitiogrf community.- Hopefully, it will enhance it in
ways we did not anticipate at all. I think it wbuld be’worthwhile for Palo Alto to explore what the
new definition of community means in light of the revolution we are entering into here. We have
the benefit of hindsight looking backwards at the telephone revolution and what that has meant for
the community. Thirty, forty, fifty years fi:om now, we will look back on this and will probably
perceive it as a revolution as great or greater than the.one we entered into with telephones.
Having said all of that, it is not in the things you can think about today that show the real value. It
is in the serendipitous things you did not anticipate when you started. As a result of that, we have
things today, like the World Wide Web, that the people who started the Intemet never anticipated.
Look at the change it has made in everything we do in Palo Alto and in the world. So I recommend
that we go forward with this.
Arthur Keller. 3881 Corina Way. Palo Alto: I very much support the effort here in terms of a fiber-
-to-the-home trial, and eventually a citywide roll-out. I am at Stanford University as a senior research
scientist in the computer science lab, and I have lived in Palo Alto since 1977, using the Internet.
I was part of the ISDN trial at Stanford University starting in 1993, and I also participated in the DSL
trial that was rolled out at Stanford in 1998. One of the things that has not been pointed out is the
fact that there is a distinction between a Star network and other kinds of networks, if you will, a bus.
One of the interesting things is that the fiber-to-the-home network is a Star network which means
that each person has his own connection to a central point in their neighborhood, and fi’om there, it
is a trunk going to the Internet. That means that there is a greater degree of bandwidth and less
interference across the various homes that would exist, for example, on the cable system,ifyou have
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a Cable Co-op kind of system. There is a shared tnmk that everybody accesses. Therefore, as you
have more and more people, that tends to get saturated. Similarly, with bandwidth, in terms of the
wireless network, that will also get saturated. I cannot tell you how
(unclear) wireless network that the gentleman talked
about earlier. In particular, I had t.o switch cellular phone providers because with my previous
cellular phone provider, I could never get through, because the network was too crowded.
One of the things that has not been mentioned is that there is potential for reduction, in the long run,
of cost to the city. For example, there have been people who have been thinking about the issues of
utility meter reading. If you have fiber eventually going to every home, think about the idea of
making connections to the meters and not have to send someone out every month to read the meters
and find out how much has been done. Think about the idea of demand pricing for electricity, things
of that nature, that can be done on a demand basis, or think about the idea of being able to reduce
utility u. sage in the event of a high heat spell in the summer when there is air conditioning overload
causing an electricity overload. So there are all kinds of things that are potentially direct benefits
for the utility itself besides the broader view here.
One of the things that is interesting here is that all of us who live in Palo Alto know that home prices.
are a lot higher here than they are in surrounding communities with lesser school systems. The same
thing I believe will happen with respect to fiber to the home. The idea that this will be a favored
place for Intemet access will eventually have an impact on the home prices in Palo Alto in an
additional amount. :
The last thing I want to say is that we have an opportunity here for historic vision. I would point out
here the Palo Alto Centennial History. There are very interesting stories I recommend to you to read,
in particular, on Page 47, the history of using some leftover sewer bond money to build .an electric
utility, and how a predecessor of PG&E decided to put.an electric utility in on weekends, putting in
poles, so that they could "steal a march in Palo Alto" and have the electric utility. The city workers
decided to take their day off and came in and ripped out those poles precisely because they realized
the importance of having the city own their own utilities. We have benefitted from that lo these
many years because of the vision from the early part of the 20th century in utilities, and we will
benefit in the 21st century by the vision that you gentlemen will show here tonight.
Bob Moss. 4010 Orme. Palo Alto: I also wear several hats. I happen to be a member of the Palo Alto
I am the scribe, and I record minutes of the meetings. I am also on the Board of
Directors of Cable Co-op. When it comes to bandwidth, more is better, and you cannot get too
much. So I certainly support anything that provides maximum bandwidth both ways to everybody.
I do have to brag a bit, however. Cable Co-op is the only entity which is actually providing high-
speed communications to residences, and has been for four years. We would be supplying more to
more people if we had the financial resources. You may not be aware of it, but we do have some
restrictions from our bank rollers as to how much money we can spend each year on capital
improvements. But we did appropriate $348,000 last month to put in fiber and fiber nodes in order
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to begin providing high-speed communications to other areas of the city. It is true that on a coax
system, after some number of users (and we have not come anywhere Close to that number of users)
it will begin to slow down. But that will happen on the Intemet anyway. Let me give you my
personal experience this week. A couple of days ago, I tried to access AOL at work using my T-1
line, and it was not as fast as a 14..4 modem. I got thrown off three times. I went home in the
evening and tried accessing them using my cable modem, and the same thing happened. So if the
Intemet is plugged, or a place you are goir~ to like AOL is plugged, you can have 100 gig and you
are not going to get there. So it is nice to i~ve high bandwidth, but it depends upon the rest of the
system.
In terms of using the fiber, we are completing an engineering study which is a little overdue - we
should have it this month - which will give Cable Co-op a better handle on the usability and the
practicality of tying our system into the fiber. We were very interested in responding to the RFP for
use of the fiber ring that was aborted last year. We still are when it comes back. We think there is
an opporttmity there. I also know that we have discussed at the board level providing services to the
city. If you are going to go ahead with this trial, you have to have somebody running the system,
collecting the bills, and is available 24 hours a day, seven days a week to answer the phone. We can
do that. We are doing that now. We would love to work with the city to facilitate the use of the fiber
ring for fiber to the home, and tie it into our system where it is appropriate. There are, believe it or
not, people in Palo Alto who do not need 10 megabits in both directions. They would be perfectly
happy with a halfa megabit or one megabit. We can do that right now on coax, and we would like
to work something out which would provide, a range, of services to everyone, and we certainly are
interested in the fiber system. Thank you. -’~
Vice Chair Sahagian: Thank you. That concludes the oral communications. Given the length oftirne
that Item 8.a. has taken, I would like to entertain a motion to move Items. 6.b. and 6.c. to our next
meeting on February 3, since we still have to embark l~pon our discussion.
MOTION: Commissioner Gruen: I so move.
SECOND: commissioner Dawes: I second the motion.
MOTION PASSES: Vice Chair Sahagian: That motion passes ori a vote of 3-0 with chairman
Johnston absent.
Vice Chair Sahagian: I would now like to have city staffmake any comments they care to make on
the presentation tonight.
Mr. Mrizek: Thank you, Chairman Sahagian. I want to make a few remarks about the input from
the community. I certainly appreciate their being here tonight. I agree totally with the community.
We have a very highly talented community in Palo Alto, and I am very happy to be a resident of this
community. I agree with the statements that fiber to the home technically is a sound design. We say
that in the staff report. The design would work. I do not believe that is the question.
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There are a couple of statements I want to correct. First, it was stated that I said in a meeting that
if we do one area with an 18% response, I questioned what about another area. The way it was
presented tonight was that there is going to be a great demand in other areas. What I implied with
the citizens at that meeting was that we have on the chart that the highest percentage of interest was
around 18-19% for one area. If we do proceed with the fiber-to-the-home trial for that area, I then
stated that we have another area where there may be only 5% interest. That area will have citizens
saying, "City Council, you have approved this for one area using electric funds. When am I going
to get my service?" The payback for a 5% area of interest is substantially longer and at even higher
risk, so I could see this ballooning to other neighborhoods, and the risk would just go up instead of
down.
Another comment was that the response that we got from the community was something like 18%
total. That is not correct. We had roughly a 3-4% response overall. We sent the interest letter to
every c.ustomer in town, and we got approximately 1,000 responses, so overall, it was 3-4%, but the
highest interest area, as we indicated in the staff report, was 19%.
There were some comments indicat’.mg that there are so many thousand homes in Palo Alto or in the
.country on the Internet. I cannot dispute that. I do not know, and I don’t believe staff knows, and
this is why we believe that if this program moves forward, we really need a thorough marketing
study. Yes, there is interest on the Interact, but is there interest in the high-speed Intemet access by
every customer who signs on to the Intemet. I believe, you have many customers who would be very
happy with just their current service through the telephone. Staff suggests that a marketing study is
in order before a decision is made to proceed’ with a systemwide, citywide fiber-to-the-home
program.
There were comments made that there are other uses for fiber, such as remote meter reading rather
than sending out meter readers, as one example. We have been looking at this type of program for
many years, and we have had some studies made on it. We find that the cost of the meters is very
high and the payback is not worth it. We currently utilize a meter reader in Palo Alto to read three
meters - the electric, the gas and the water meters. The cost to do that is extremely low. We do have
a pilot program that we will be getting under way with to do a remote meter-reading hookup to a few
customers in remote areas where the meter reader may have to go some distance or get into some
industrial customer and go through some security gates. In those instances, something like that
would be cost-effective. So we are looking at things like that, but I am suggesting that a fiber system
is not necessary to do that.
Finally, I again want to say that we did start with a dark fiber ring, and we have installed that. We
still have a $2 million investment to recover for that, and we want to continue to follow the City
Council policy of proceeding with telecommunication services to the community, but at low risk.
That is the direction that staff feels we have received from the council, and that is the direction we
feel we should pursue. So again, as I said in my opening statement, we need some policy if this is
going to change. For that reason, again, we do not agree that a fiber-to-the-home trial is the first step
we should be taking. First, a policy decision is needed. Are we going to be in this business? We
need a marketing study. Regarding the comments about the cost, there were cost estimates made by
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staff, and we have seen another cost estimate to.night which is lower, still, the payback is substantial.
To recover these costs is a lengthy period of time, and there was a cost estimate I saw on the screen
of about $24 million to build out the city. This is an estimate without actually doing a make-ready
survey of the community. As Larry Starr pointed out, there are a lot of areas where we do not have
conduit in underground areas. Ther.e are a lot of areas where we need to replace poles, so I do not
know if that build-out is going to cost $24 million or $30 million. That study, staff suggests, is also
needed before we embark upon such a major program. As the commission knows, the deregulation
of the electric industry really had an impact on the cost of doing business. We must select our
programs and keep our costs down. That completes my comments.
Vice Chair Sahagian: Before opening this up for commission question and comments, there are a
couple of things I want to inquire about. The original purpose of the fiber-to-the-home trial, as I
understand it in reading the report to the City Council, was, assuming that the economic and other
criteria could be met, that it would be a test that would provide information that would be useful in
securir~g a service provider that would ultimately come in and contract for the use of the fiber
backbone. Is that a correct interpretation on my part? What was the genesis of the whole fiber-to-
the-home trial concept?
~: The fiber-to-the-home trial was to help provide us information in preparing the Request
for Proposal that the council gave us direction to prepare last February. We could then put in the
RFP certain requirements that we felt might bring benefit to the city to provide a higher speed
system. But even with that, as we looked at it, if.w~ put a tight specification out on the street, we
would still get alternate bids from other typ~s of organizations saying, well, rather than a fiber to
every home in the community, we will do this type of system. We would then have to evaluate every
proposal, even though we had tightened up our specifications. That was the main purpose of doing
the trial.
Vice Chair Sahagian: So the idea initially was to try to identify an area or areas where this system
could be designed and actually implemented, data collected, and that would then serveas a
foundation upon which, through subcontracting or whatever means, we would eventually be able to
develop the fiber ring not to just commercial customers but also to residential customers.
~: Yes, we Would seek a partner to work with us, and we’would provide them with our
poles and infrastructure. They would actually build whatever system we would have recommended
to the City Council.
Vice Chair Sahagian: And it was contemplated, then, that if the economics and the other criteria
were correct, the city would embark upon this initial trial, and then use that information to go out
in this RFP process. Then whatever vendor was selected, they would take over that part of the
system. Is that correct? I am trying to understand it.
Mr. Mrizek: That was the original concept.
Vice Chair Sahagian: That was the original concept. I am doing this because I think it is important
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for the commission to get the history correct on this. It is hard to look forward and try to make a
recommendation and provide policy direction without a very clear understanding of the history of
how we have gotten to.where we are. Would it also be correct to say that when you read the report,
clearly the biggest concem (and there are a lot of concerns, and we are in the fiber business whether
we like it or not) is that we have a $.2 million piece of infrastructure, and we have gone ahead and
made that bold step forward. We are in that business, but. the biggest reservation seems to be the
economics. If the economics were okay on the trial, the other issues are certainly far less significant
than the economic concems. Is that a fair estimate?
Mr. Mrizek: Yes, I would say that the.economics are the highest concern of staff, but as we have
indicated in the staffreport, there is another concern we have as far as staffing. Our staffis busy on
just about every project in town regarding electric, and we cannot spare staff .to develop an
infrastructure for even the fiber to the home. We would have to come back to the council with the
staffing levels we would need to implement this program. And not only to begin it but to continue
it for the 10 or 15 or more years of offering the system to recover our costs.
Vice Chair Sahagian: That, again, is assuming that the city gets into that business, does the trial, and
then goes on.
Mr. Mrizek: That is correct.
Vice Chair Sahagian: That all comes back to ecorlohaics.
Mr. Mrizek: That we have found to be the main reason and purpose of the trial to be to make a
decision as to whether we should be in that business.
Vice Chair Sahagian: So part of the information coming out of the trial was for detemaining whether
we wanted to go to a third party or maybe be in the business ourselves. The staffing cor~cerns, when
you boil it down, all comes down to economics. If you put enough money in there, you get enough
staff, and time and money fixes everything. That is very helpful to me and hopefully helpful to my
fellow commissioners as well. I will now open this up to their questions.
Commissioner Dawes: Let me lay out some areas that occurred to me ks we heard from the staff and
from the citizens group. First, I would like to hear more about the existing ring and the economics
of that. It seems to me that it was a bold decision, driven in part by what I would term a "build it and
they will come" philosophy, as with the California freeway system. Put out the road, and it will fill
up. Evidently, that has not happened with the fiber ring, and I really don’t know why. Related to
that is the position of business in this trial, although perhaps not in the trial, as that is for a specific
neighborhood, but in the longer-term, looking out over the bigger picture, corporate use is an area
that would provide important revenues for a full system. Perhaps this is putting the cart before the
horse, but we have heard from an employee of Sun and from Hewlett-Packard. I am not aware of
who provides their high-speed access now and whether the fiber ring has been marketed to them, and
what the role of the company whose president addressed us tonight who has leased some space on
the fiber ring. I basically need to get more information on what is working, what is not working, and
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why it is not working as far as the ring is’concemed.
The third area of concern is the overall pace of this development. Bob Moss made an interesting
comment, and one which I have experienced numerous times myself, which is that I have a high-
speed DSL link, and I am not limited by the speed of my service. I am limited by the computers at
the other end which either cannot talk because they are filled up, or they talk very, very slowly to me.
So even ifI had a fiber ring, it would not make any difference. When I talked with Ken Poulson over
the weekend, he said, ."Are you satisfied?" and I said, "I am very satisfied." I am operating my
business, such as it is, out of my home, and the service I have is very adequate for that. I am not
persuaded that the sense of urgency I have heard from a number of people is as germane as it is felt
by them. I think perhaps we can be deliberate about our deliberations and evaluate this and the risk
that somebody will "steal a march on Palo Alto" and start planting poles down Middlefield Road and
stringing cables is probably not a big risk, in my mind.
The fo~trth major area is whether this is a true utility or not. There were some analogies made to
Palo Alto’s foresight in doing electrical, water and gas. I agree with that. It was an extremely
fortuitous decision, but what was not mentioned was the other part of that, which was to sign up a
hydro facility which provided a great amount of very low-cost power which extended on until just
a few years ago, and was a source of huge margin for us. But we currently have dial-up networks,
we have Cable Co-op, we have DSL networks, and it is not as if a concerned citizen who wanted
Internet access does not have it today and have it in a way that is very satisfactory to them. Partially,
it is a function of what you pay for. As I mentic;ned earlier, the sensitivity of this analysis to
revenues is very considerable. I just need mcgee iiiformation about this magical $40 per month figure
that is on the table for the 10 megabyte service. I feel that it certainly is a huge bargain in
comparison to any other service that I am aware of, in terms of cost per month and speed of access.
When that is looked at, then maybe these payback periods can change enough to make the staff
comfortable. So that is a summary of where I am at i~ four major areas of interest. Perhaps staff
could address the fiber ring situation and why it is where it is, for openers.
Mr. Mrizek: We have with us tonight Mr. Van Hiernke. Mr. Hiemke is our Manager of
Telecommunications. He has been instrumental from the beginning in developing the fiber
backbone, in the recommendations to the City Council on the direction of telecommunications, and
he has been working diligently in the marketing of the fiber backbrne. In the staff report, we do
indicate some numbers on the revenues we are collecting at this time on the fiber backbone,
approximately $300,000 just for leases which Van has executed. This is revenue for basically the
first year. I might point out that he was executing agreements even before the backbone was fully
installed. We just completed that not too long ago. He is continuing that process, and we have high
hopes of recovering the $1.9 million initial investment. But I must point out that we also have
operating and maintenance costs, so for the $300,000 in revenue that we collected in the first year,
we do have salaries, we do have the operations and maintenance people that Larry Start has working
under him to maintain the fiber that we have installed. In a nutshell, I don’t believe we have really
collected anything on the major capital investment of almost $2 million, because the majority of that
has gone to O&M, to this date. We did indicate to the council that we estimate we will recover this
capital investment in three to five years. I do not know if we will do that, but I still have high hopes
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that the backbone is a sound investment and that we will recover our investment. We believe that
this is the direction that the city should be taking, that is, that a dark fiber highway is the way to be
in the business, and that the city provides that highway, that ring, which in tum provides
opportunities for any service provider to link to any customers in the city. Granted, it is mainly
serving only commercial areas at this time, although I know there have been some articles in the
paper about hooking up some apartments or.condos which are very close to our di-fiber backbone
through NanoSpace, and one of the speakers tonight was from the NanoSpace. Bui to get out into
the residential area is that last mile, which is the high cost. That is what we are talking about tonight.
Regarding your comments on whether this is a true utility, we talked a lot about the electric utility
and that our forefathers had the vision of making this a municipal utility. That is an essential service.
Granted there will be those who will say that telecommunications will be an essential service. I
question that at this time. Will it be an essential service in the future? Is it a business venture that
will pay for itself?. We have heard about other types of technology presented tonight -- microwave
was one. There are a lot of companies in this business today, and will the city be able to compete
with those other companies in serving residential areas? If there were an adequate payback to serve
residential areas, you would see telecommunications corporations coming in here and putting up
fiber today. They are not doing that.
Ms. Harrison: I think one essential difference might be that as the time that the City of Palo Alto
entered into the electric business, we were able to’do so on a monopoly basis. That is not the
environment in which we would be inauguratiiag this ~ew utility. It did make a difference. That time
to nurture a new utility and to have that monopoly power is not available today.
Mr. Ml-izek: I am not sure what I can add to your question on the pace and at what pace should we
be at. ’That has to be determined through marketing s~dies as to what is right for this community.
Yes, there is a lot of interest in the telecommunication business in Palo Alto, but at what pace should
this community be doing this versus private enterprise.
Commissioner Dawes: What sort ofpayback period would you be comfortable with if the figures
indicated?
Mr. Mrizek: We really did not analyze that to any great extent. If you look at a private corporation
that is in this business and you ask them, I would venture that they are looking at something far less
than ten years, some even less than five years. Some are wanting thei.r money back in one to three
years.
Commissioner Dawes: What was the fiber ring payback period computed before you went into it?
Mr. Hiernke: We said three to five years. Considering the revenue pace we are on right now, we just
have to continue adding revenue each year. We are essentially a startup company, and we have
added $300,000 in the first year. If you add another $300,000, you have $600,000 during the second
year. Add another $300,000 in the year after that, you have $900,000 per year. Continuing adding
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at that pace, we would have a 3-5-year payback.
Commissioner Dawes: I was just concemed that in the report, it said that it appeared to be
performing under plan.
Mr. Mrizek: As Van said, we are in the first year, and we had a lot of startup costs. We had the
staffing, operating and maintenance costs, so when you apply the revenues to that, we have not really
started recovering our initial capital.
Commissioner Dawes: Have we learned anything from that test that would be applicable to the
fiber-to-the-home trial?
~: There was a lot of interest from a number of service providers who said yes, they were
very interested in the fiber ring. So we built it. I think the interest has diminished. The interest is
there, but the signing on the dotted line of an agreement is taking longer than we anticipated for
leasing our fiber.
Mr. Hiemke: Another thing with dark fiber is that we did notice there is a change that we had to
make, mid-stream, in terms of focusing on end users, in addition to service providers. We are now
focusing quite heavily on end users, and we are finding that we really need to build the market there
before service providers are ready. However, with the residential marketplace, it is quite different.
It may be difficult to extrapolate the actions of vcr~ large telecommunication service providers to
the consumer behavior of residents. But I thiiak’we did learn a fair amount on the construction end
of things that would be applicable for dark fiber installation and maintenance, but a residential
infrastructure isquite different. It is quite a bit more dense. The costs have to be very low in order
for it to be economically acceptable for residents to take on such a service, so there are quite a few
things lett to learn in that area and certainly in the. areas we have not delved into, such as the
deployment of electronics within a network.
Commissioner Gruen: I have a few questions of some of the folks who spoke to us. We had
someone talking to us from NanoSpace. The question I would like to ask there is, you have gone
ahead with some fiber usage on your own, independent of fiber to the home, or fiber to the apartment
house, if you will, although not fiber to the apartment. What sort ’of things do you envision you
would do if we did not have fiber to the home?
Mr. Robles: Do you mean if there were no trial, or if the fiber did not exist?
Commissioner Gruen: There are many people here who would like to fiber links to their home,
although not necessarily to every home. To what extent would you be willing to supply service and
fiber links to people’s homes without having a city-sponsored trial?
Mr. Robles: Without working with the city, I do not see it as being very cost-effective. Ed is right,
to privately fund this thing, the reason we are not doing it is that it would cost 3-6 times as much as
it would cost the city to do it because of the rights-of-way and the conduit they have in place. That
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is why no one is running up to the plate to do it, and we have to rely upon the city because the
economics make sense today.
Commissioner Gruen: Is that because of the charges that the city makes for the right-of-way for the
use of its poles?
Mr. Robles: Partly, and partly the labor. It is mostly the rights-of-way because of the increase in
cost. That is why the fiber needs to be owned by the city.
Commissioner Gruen: Let me ask a .similar sort of question of the representative of Califomia
Microwave who was telling us about a radio-based network. First, let me ask some technology kinds
of questions. How far can you expect to have subscribers from one of your transmitters? What is
the effect of the foliage, if any, on your transmission? How many towers would you need to serve
how m.any homes?
Mr. Carothers: The conservative range is 3 to 5 kilometers, so about a mile to just over three miles
from a base station cell site access point to a subscriber unit. The effective data is 25 megabits per
second. What was the last question?
Commissioner Gruen: One of the complaints I heard about using radio is that there are too many
trees in Palo Alto to be able to do this.
Mr. Carothers: Wireless is a line-of-sight apiga~atus~ There is no doubt about that. However, our
field studies are very favorable in that. We are doing some with different parts of the country with
some regional Bells in some areas that have a very dense population of large trees, which is the issue
that we are going to look at. So far, things have come back in a positive light, but we are still
undergoing tests. A few trees in the line of sight are. not an issue, waving branches, that type of
thing. The system is designed from a standpoint to retransmit data or cells, because
they are ATM-based cells.
Commissioner Gruen: How many cells would you envision it would take to provide coverage for,
say, 90% of the residences in Palo Alto?
Mr. Carothers: I would have to do a plan on that and work some numbers out on that, and I have
not done that to this point.
Commissioner Gruen: How would your use of this radio system interact with a fiber optic network?
Mr. Carothers: Basically, it would sit right on top of the backbone. In working with ISPs or an
Internet access provider such as NanoSpace, we would provide service, we would provide the
equipment and basically, we would just sit on top of that backbone, and we have an LC-3 at our site
that would connect right into that.
Commissioner Gruen: If we did not have fiber to the home, but instead, were looking at radio to the
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home, if you will, what would you need from the city and from the fiber network to be able to do
that?
Mr. Carothers: From our standpoint, we are the equipment provider, in terms of who goes out and
puts the equipment out is something that we do not do, however, we would partner with different
organizations, different companies, to do that type of thing.’ So that is something that we would have
to take a look at. It depends upon how involved the city wants to be in this process. If there were
a formal RFP, for example, we would be discussing this type of opportunity with another entity to
help with the servicing and to help us with getting the cell sites up, etc. When we say "cell site," I
want to be very clear on that. It is not a traditional tower. It could be a pole, and the city could help
us out on that. It could be on top of a downtown building. The antenna for each cell, for each access
point, is very small. Plus another PC to control traffic at the cell site and an ATM switch.
Commissioner Gruen: How far off the ground does it have to be for this 3-5 kilometer range?
Mr. Carothers: It is just a matter of being on a building. I thinldaas to be line-of-sight fi’om the edges
of the building, that type of thing. It depends upon the deployment specifically.
Commissioner Gruen: Do you think you would have to have a monopoly service in order for it to
be useful to have your system?
Mr. Carothers: No, not at all. Unlike the costs for.t~.enching, things like that, where you have a step
cost when you go in to do a certain area (and }-tlfink that is why they brought up the point of having
small, mid-size and large areas for the field trials), with a wireless system, if you set up a station in
one part of the town, you could have one person over here and 30 people over here, and this one
person is going to be as cost-effective as the 30 over here because of the wireless implications.
Commissioner Gruen: Let me ask a.question of Bob Moss. (Bob Moss has lett the meeting.)
(Question from the audience, repeated by Commissioner Gruen)
Commissioner Gruen: The question is, is the 25 megabits per second shared, or is that the total?
Mr. Carothers: We have patent-pending technology on this, and this is the secret of our technology,
but basically, it is a one-shared channel that is based on a packet on demand system. It is something
that is based on Intemet traffic. In a nutshell, if you take a look at Internet traffic, it is bursting. A
chunk of data comes down, and there is a lot of wasted space, a lot of wasted bandwidth. What we
do is that we use the same channel. Everyone sha~es a channel. It is not bandwidth on demand. It
is packet on demand, and we stuff everyone’s packet into this one channel.
Question from the audience: So it would not work with video on demand?
Mr. Carothers: It would work with video on demand because of ATM.
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Commissioner Gruen: Let me ask a few questions of staff. We have been talking about an RFP.
Suppose there were three or four different vendors who wanted to do different things, and say they
had different technologies such as the folks we have been talking to just now. How would the
utilities staff feel about having multiple vendors providing service?
Mr. Mrizek: That is rather difficult to answer. We would evaluate every proposal based on cost,
based on what type of service is being offered, the benefits to the community, etc. We would bring
all recommendations back to the UAC and the City Council. Maybe the selection would be made
from more than one service provider to work with the city. It is really difficult to respond to that.
It is based on the responses we get from the RFP.
Mr. Hiernke: IfI can put my marketing hat on, we have fiber in place right now that is available for
license right now to a company such as Cable Co-op or to Califomia Microwave and partner so that
these t,ypes of services can be deployed either on a citywide basis or on a selected regional basis
today with the existing fiber backbone license program that is in place.
Commissioner Green: And you mentioned that you would give discounts to some vendors for doing
some number of things. What would be the basis for those discounts?
Mr. Hiemke: There is a fairly generic provision in the license agreement that allows for
determination of a discount that is determined by the City Council. That is determined in proportion
to the level of public benefit delivered by the entity ’.that is providing the benefit. That amount has
not yet been determined in any specific case.’ -It’is an item for future discussion.
Commissioner Gruen: Van mentions the magic words "public benefit." Have you thought in terms
o1~ using some of the electric fund public benefit money to pay for some of the public benefits of
having Interact access? .
Mr. Mrizek: We did ask that question. We did look at A.B.1890 and we did ask our city attorney
this question. When you look at A.B. 1890, the public benefits cover four areas, and the area we
would be talking about is cost-effective DSM service to promote energy efficiency and energy
conservation. But if you look at the pilot program, it does not directly involve energy conservation
or efficiency. It is directed at promoting telecommunication, and certain telecommunications media.
So after review by our city attorneys and our review of A.B.1890, those funds would not apply to
this type of program.
Commissioner Green: I have listened to Paul Johnston talk about reducing commuting as an energy-
efficiency benefit of being able to do things at home, and I have certainly heard enough speakers
today talk about how they wanted to work in our office at home. I am in the office at home
department, if you will, and I am one of the people who checked the box about how I liked the
service, and I expect so did many of the people who were interested in it. I feel that not using energy
to commute is certainly an energy benefit. Let me not fuss about that. I just wondered how far you
had gone on that.
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Mr. Mrizek: I agree that is energy-efficient, but we are talking about electric energy. I don’t know
if the PUC and the legislators had that in mind when they adopted A.B.1890. The answer is that we
cannot use it for compressed natural gas vehicles.
Vice Chair Sahagian: I have a couple of questions. Stepping back and trying to look at this in a
broader context, let’s put the fiber-to-the-home trial aside for a minute and talk about the overall
development of the fiber ring. In order to get full use of that fiber ring, is it reasonable to
contemplate that there will be a necessity for developing residential fiber connections, or do you
think there is enough potential just in the commercial community to fully subscribe the ring? When
the ring was originally proposed, I know we had some payback estimates on your part on the basis
of going out and getting providers to go out and get some subscribers, and we would do some
subscribing for business development ourselves and work with other companies that would go out
and develop business. Was it the intent that the connections would be going to residential as well
as commercial users?
Mr. Hiemke: There are two parts to that question. The first part is, is there a chance that the fiber
backbone will become saturated strictly with commercial traffic. The answer to that is yes. If you
think of a given segment on the fiber backbone, we have either 144 or 288 strands of fiber in the
given cable along a given segment. A couple of areas have fewer fibers, but for the most part, that
is the situation. With dark fiber, a given customer gets a given fiber or number of fibers. Depending
upon the customer, we have them licensing anywhere fi’om one up to twelve fibers. Along one path,
we currently have 32 out of 144 strands already be~licensed along a given segment. So that would
be the closest we are to being "at risk" of sattiratilag the amount of fiber that is available. However,
I put the "at risk" in quotation marks, because what we are actually trying to do is to saturate those
fibers. We designed the pricing in such a manner that it is a good thing to run out, because it is a
sustainable pricing mechanism whereby even in an underground district, if we use the last bit of
conduit space that is existing, we do have enough reveoue coming in that we can install new conduit
and place new fiber and continue the program as an ongoing concern.
Vice Chair Sahagian: So saturation really is not an issue because you can keep expanding the system
with revenues from the saturated fill in. So it would be reasonable, then, to say that given where the
fiber ring is located, the idea is that ultimately, high-speed Intemet access through the fiber backbone
would be developed out for everyone -- commercial, residential. W~ that the thought process that
went into the development of the ring to begin with?
Mr. Mrizek: The thought process, and basically the direction of the council, was to enhance
telecommunications in the community. It was not the thought process that we would reach every
citizen in the community with the dark fiber backbone project. It is a beginning to enhance
telecommunications in the community. It depends upon how many service providers and how they
would use those fibers. That would be their choice.
Vice Chair Sahagian: I would like to ask some broad-based questions, as I feel it is really important
to get a good, broad-based understanding of this. I have some very specific ideas that I will get to,
but I want to get a couple of broader questions. In terms of the commercial subscription structure,
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as far as ~he interconnection and as far as the fees that commercial customers are being charged, how
do they compare, on a per-fiber basis, with what was proposed in the trial? From the people who
have subscriptions, you have $300,000 per year in revenue coming from somewhere.
Mr. Mrizek: The $300,000 we have. coming in is for the lease of the fiber, the highway. We are not
hooking up any customer of Palo Alto utilities. As far as providing the electronics and the service
to any customer, that is the business that the service provider does. We are not. We are just
providing the dark fiber for a lease rate.
Vice Chair Sahagian: Do we have any idea what those service providers are charging the customers
for comparable service to what is being proposed for this residential tie-up?
Mr. Hiernke: I think the real issue is what is called the local loop. It is not so much the issue of the
service that is provided when you try to do a comparison, because the fiber-to-the-home trial that was
being l~rovided was not the Intemet service, but rather, just that local loop getting from the resident’s
home to a point where they could tie into the Intemet service provider and Internet access provider.
Similarly, with dark fiber, a given business might want to connect their own two facilities and not
need a service provider. We would then be providing a local loop to get from Building One to
Building Two, or they may want to get from their building to an Internet service provider or
telecommunications cartier or other party. The costs are quite different in terms of what is associated
with dark fiber where a customer gets a dedicated strand or strands of fiber all the way from Point
A to Point B, versus the case with the fiber-to-the-lao’me trial where it was proposed that there would
be dedicated fiber from the home to a local n~ighborliood switch site, and then a shared fiber out of
that neighborhood switch site with a very, high capacity link to a point where Internet Service
providers could be accessed. Specifically, the costs you would face, if we took for example, a four-
mile distance between two buildings, the approximate cost for something like that would be $2,500
per fiber per mile per year. If a given company wants t.o run at a dedicated 100 megabits per second
between those two locations, they could install equipment ttiat could utilize a single strand of fiber.
So we would take four miles times one fiber times $2,500 per year, and we get a charge of
approximately $10,000 per year, or a little under $1,000 per month. With the fiber-to-the-home trial,
we had a case where we were looking at $35 or $70 per month charges for a 10 or 100 megabit
service. So there is quite.a difference between what was proposed for the fiber-to-the-home trial and
what is currently in place for dark fiber.
Vice Chair Sahagian: As far as the driving force behind the fiber-to-the-home trial, it was explained
that it was originally proposed in order to collect information to help us make a decision as to
whether the city should develop, out residential interconnections, if you want to put it in simple
terms, or gather information that would be useful in either enticing or evaluating a third-party service
provider to come in and develop that business. Is that a correct understanding?
Mr. Mrizek: What was originally proposed was for the purpose of assisting staff in developing the
RFP to seek a partner in installing telecommunications to the community. That was the initial
proposal.
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Vice Chair Sahagian: With the idea that the city would develop some kind of a partnership.
Mr. Mrizek: And have somebody else actually put up the funding and their knowledge and know-
how, and we would provide the poles and the conduit, whatever assets We have, but we would enter
this as a low-risk venture without putting up a substantial amount of money. That was the intent.
As we looked at the design, and as we have said before, this is a design concept we know will work.
There is no question about that. So the rationale of doing fiber-to-the-home now is, should we be
in this business, and should the community be in this business? This is what staffis stating. We can
write an RFP and put specifications together and get bids from interested parties without doing the
trial.
Vice Chalr Sahagian: Let me get to the economics in a moment, as that, to me, is where everything
seems to pivot. There are a lot of issues there, but what is the RFP time line that is or was
contem, plated?
Mr. Mrizek: The RFP time line was that the council gave us approval to proceed with the RFP last
February. We said we would return to the TAP and to the UAC and finally, to the council, with a
draft RFP by summer before the City Council went on vacation. Then the trial proposal concept
came about, and we began looking at that, and that did delay the RFP. Now we are suggesting back
that we have now looked at the fiber-to-the-home concept, and we want to proceed with an RFP.
Vice Chair Sahagian: Is that activity proceeding at the moment?
Mr, Mrizek: The RFP is approximately 90% complete.
Vice Chair Sahagian: So it is on a track to move ahead independently.
Mr. Mrizek: Well, we do not want to move ahead v~ith an RFP ’until there we get an approval to
drop the fiber-to-the-home trial concept. We have made that recommendation in this staffreport,
and we want council’s concurrence with staff’s recommendation. With that, we will immediately
come back with the draft RFP to the UAC, and eventually back to the City Council. Then we will
go out on the street with it.
Vice Chair Sahagian: Let’s assume that you went ahead full bore on the RFP process. How long
would it take before you would have the packages analyzed and make a recommendation?
Mr. Mdzek: We are assuming that the fiber to the home, if council concurs with staff, which would
probably be in a February council meeting by the time the Policy and Services minutes return to the
council, if they concur with staff, we would probably be back to the UAC and to the other
committees within a month with a draft RFP. Then we would bring that forward to the council by
mid- to late spring and out on the street.
Vice Chair $ahagian: So we are looking at the fall of this year before --
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Mr. Ivlrizek: If we get bids in, we would be back to council in late summer with a recommendation.
Vice Chair Sahagian: Hypothetically, let’s say that the economics weremade to work, and the trial
moved ahead. What would prevent.you from going through an RFP process and at the same time,
be collecting information? Why would they necessarily have to be serial? Why wouldn’t those
things be possible in parallel? Maybe I am missing something here.
Mr. lVlrizek: The purpose of the trial was originally to bring us information to develop the RFP. It
is really not a trial. It is a hookup anywhere from 40 to 100+ homes in the community, with a
particular design at a particular cost. If we then go out on the street with an RFP and we get
Company A who says, we will work with the city and we will install’another type of system, we feel
it is a good step for the community to take, the financing is there and the proposal is sound, we
would perhaps take that recommendation to the council. Now we have one to two hundred homes
hooked up with one technology, and we may even be going back to the council with another
technology. It may be a slower speed. We have heard a lot tonight about the speed of the fiber. Will
the rest of the community accept that proposal when we have hooked up one to two hundred homes
with a different design? I don’t know, but I don’t think so. We have some concerns there that once
we offer something, we should offer it to the community. Period.
Vice Chair Sahagian: There was a substantial difference in the payback that the fiber-to-the-home
group presented and the payback period in the staffr~port to the council. It seemed that there were
some differences in assumptions -- single Intdrn~t service provider, obviously the monthly fee, the
administration cost. As Commissioner Dawes pointed out, the net revenue stream is relatively
modest in a small movement and could incrementally sway the payback dramatically. I would be
interested in hearing some comments to help understand where the differences are. Is there a
possibility of adopting some of the things that were put forward by the fiber-to-the-home group in
terms ofpayback reduction, notwithstanding increasing what the individual users would be charged?
That is an obvious one right off the top. There is some set of economics that makes anything work.
I didn’t know if the number that was put into the study was a number that had been arrived at after
a lot of agonizing, or whether it was one that was just pulled out as being a reasonable figure.
Mr. Mrizek: Let me back up a bit on the cost. Late last winter, shbrtly after the council gave its
approval to proceed with the RFP, there was a proposal by the Fibemet group that We would like to
hook up so many homes. The suggested cost they were willing to pay, based on the cost we used
when we surveyed the city, are you interested in a hookup fee of anywhere from $1,200 to $2,400,
depending upon the speed of service, and so much per month, $35 and $70 for the different speeds.
Those were the numbers we used, based upon very preliminary numbers. The responses we have
were based on those monthly fees. When we looked at the cost, we found that the payback was
substantially higher if we used those fees. I do not know how many people would be interested in
it if we doubled those fees to shorten the payback. As far as the cost estimates where there is a
difference in the cost estimates you saw by the Fibernet group versus staff’s cost estimate, our staff
in the utilities department, as I already pointed out, went through these estimates, for the construction
costs, we feel confident that we could build this system for this cost.
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Regarding the question of a single service provider reducing costs, that is true, but we did point out
in the staff report the reasons why We did not suggest a single service provider. If we were doing
a trial, we would be doing it to collect information as far as a multiple service PrOvider type system,
and we even included an editorial from comments on a single service provider versus multiple. So
that is why we did not recommend a single service provider. If we did go with a single service
provider, our cost would be reduced from the mid-range system of 69 homes where we said
$375,000, down to about $342,000. This is still a 13-year recovery for that project. If we look at
the large area where our estimate was $768,000, that dropped down to $724,000, which is still an
11-year recovery of our capital cost.
Vice Chair Sahagian: The other thing that was very compelling is that it is clear that the payback
in the per-residence cost of service changes dramatically with penetration. It seems to me that if you
were sitting here trying to come up with an optimal scheme (and I am throwing this out for comment
by my.fellow commissioners), going ahead with an RFP to find out what an independent provider
would be prepared to do, but at the same time, looking at perhaps working the costs a little bit more
and going out with another solicitation, possibly, and saying, based on the level of subscription, here
are the various rates that could be charged. It is a little bit like the chicken and the egg. With our
utility, everyone is hooked up, and you know that you have a certain amount of power that you are
going to put out, and you know you can buy in bulk and it is a commodity and you can get it at a low
price. With the interconnecfions to the home, with a small participation, the per-home cost is high.
With high participation, the per-home cost can come down dramatically, and all of a sudden, you
may have a lot of people wanting to subscribe. Iris an inertia problem, to some extent. At what
point does the dam break? At what level? I ha,ce three Intemet connections in my house, and I go
crazy with how slow they are. With the right price, I would subscribe in a heartbeat, and I am sure
there are a lot of people in that same position. It seems to me that a combination of getting deeper
penetration, participation on the part of residences, possibly combined with looking at other ways
of getting the cost down might get a more robust participation in an initial trial group, and more
importantly, might make being able to offer Intemet access on a citywide basis, albeit through city
development of that ring or working with a partner or shunting it to a third party is going to be a lot
more of a reality. Once your fiber subscription starts to come up, then you will really start to get
your return on your fiber.
Mr, Mrizek: Well, I agree on the penetration that you are referring’to, but staff totally agrees that
we need a much higher participation rate for this to be financially sound. When we went out with
our request last summer, we anticipated that we needed a minimum of 30% participation. After
looking at the final cost estimates, it probably would be even a little higher. We came in with the
best area, the highest interest area, at 19%. It was pointed out tonight that this was just one mailing
of the utility bill, but that really is not correct. We had a mailing in the utility bill, plus ads in the
paper, and we went out on our Website. Van attended many meetings with the community, and I
attended one with Van. A lot of the people.in the audience tonight, I know are highly interested in
this, and I applaud them for going out and talking in their neighborhoods and community to stimulate
interest. Even with that, we had a 19% maximum participation rate, which is not cost-effective, and
that is what we put in our report. Yes, if there was a much higher interest, maybe the numbers would
be different, and the recommendation could be different in the future. But there again, you need a
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marketing survey, no matter whether you are doing a small area or a large area like the entire
community. I do not have an answer as to what level of participation is needed to make this a sound
investment.
Mr. Hiemke: I would like to add one more point to that. The flier that was sent out, if you look
closely, did have a range of monthly prices of $10 to $35 for 10 megabit service and twice that for
the 100 megabit service. So to some extent, we were testing the sensitivity on the lower end, even
though we did have an expectation set that if someone signed up, they should be prepared to pay the
$35 amount. That range was set based upon the preliminary cost estimates that we had at the time,
with the $35 per month number being set at the revenue level that would be required for a 10-year
cost recovery if we had 30% market share. The $10 per month number was the number that would
be required if we had 100% market share. That is the origin of the pricing structure that had been
set up. That was based on preliminary cost estimates, and we have had more detailed cost estimates
since then. Those numbers would likely change at this point by some amount. But the costs were
quite s{rnilar.
Michael Eager: The cost sensitivity in the flier was not $10 to $35. The cost sensitivity was in two
areas. One of them was the installation charge which was $1,200 or $2,400, and the other factor was
a completely unknown cost for Internet access. The discussion which happened at the time when
Van I-Iiernke was at the meeting on August 12, was that this could be from $25 to $1,000. That was
the variability. That was one of the factors that contributed to the response rate. If these numbers
had been nailed down to some reasonable level or thdre were some definitive numbers, I believe you
would have gotten much more response. "- .’"
~: In the flier I have here, we did indicate $10 to $35 per month, and $20 to $70 is what
the flier went out.
Vice Chair Sahagian: Personally, I think it is pretty amazing that you got the response that you did
with the flier in the utility bill. For those mailings, a lot people just go from the envelope to the
circular file. I would venture a guess that probably 60% of the population does not read these things.
That is my impression, and I agree, to really get a feel for what kind of participation you would get
at the residential level at competitive prices predicated on high participation, you would really have
to do a market survey. You would have to do something a little more’than an envelope stuffing kind
of exercise. The awareness of the community would have to be raised to be able to understand that
this is a real opportunity and that it is really something on which they need to express an opinion.
Mr. Mrizek: This is an action item, and we are requesting the commission to make a
recommendation. It was referred by the council to the UAC, and the council is expecting a
recommendation from the UAC.
Vice Chair Sahagian: We are going to need to come to some consensus here in terms of a
recommendation.
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projections that was mentioned in the report and also by some of the citizens was the potential sale
of assets. If this program was a failure, or probably much more logically, if it were a success and
a private company undertook a roll-out of the full service, what is staff’s’opinion on the probability
of either a sale of assets or some sort of recovery if this program is terminated? Related to that, there
was a concern about perhaps having to refund installation money to citizens if the trial was
terminated prematurely. Have you given any more thought to that?
Mr. Mrizek: Staff really has not looked at whether we would sell assets if this trial were not
successful and at what cost we could recover. I would believe there would be a company out there
who would possibly be interested in purchasing those assets and services, but we really have not
looked into that with this proposal.
Commissioner Dawes: Was there any discussion with the citizens group about participation by that
group in increasing penetration, actually getting signups ahead of the fact, so that the economics
would be improved to a satisfactory level?
Mr. ~zek: No, we did not have any such discussions. We went out last August with our fliers,
and we had to have a cutoff time and make a determination as to whether a fiber-to-the-home trial
could be performed and was economical. We did not want to delay this further, so after a period of
several months of collecting the information on who was interested, we felt that we had enough
information to make our recommendation to the council. It is always possible to go back and ask
again to get more participation, but we thought we gaye the community an adequate amount oftirne.
Michael Eager: Mr. Sahagian, could I address the UAC for a moment? I am the president .ofPalo
Alto Fibemet, and I think what I am hearing is that staff decided in February a year ago that they did
not want to do anything. What we have had is an RFP process which could have gone forward
independent of the fiber-to-the-home trial. When the fiber-to-the-home trial came in, this was used
as an excuse for delaying the RFP. ,what we have now is that the fiber-to-the-home trial is a block
in going ahead with the RFP. We hear many reasons why things won’t work. We do not hear
anything from staffwhich says what a reasonable price would be. We do not hear anything which
suggests that they have considered the way to make it work. We have heard a lot about how they
have considered how it cannot work. We have had some very constructive discussions with the staff
which led to our producing a report. We believe that this should liave been the report that staff
produced, because the report that staff produced really did not provide the UAC or the community
the information to evaluate the fiber-to-the-home trial. So while we appreciate the cooperation of
the staff, it took two visits to the City Council to obtain that. So we believe that what we are heating
is the staff saying, we do not want to do it. No matter what you say, we do not want to do it. What
we are saying, as the residents, is that we believe this is a good idea for the entire community, and
what we would like to see is for this to move forward.
Mr. Mrizek: I would like to comment on that. First of all, I heard that the staff made a decision last
February that we made a decision then that we were not interested in doing the trial. That is
absolutely false. We did not make a decision on whether we should proceed with the trial until early
October after we had collected all of the data as to who was interested in participating in the trial.
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We looked at all of the cost estimates, and we put all of that together. At that time, I made a
recommendation to the city manager that the numbers did not work out, and it was not cost-effective.
I recommended that we should not proceed with the trial.
Vice Chair Sahagian: I think we hav.e garnered about as much input as we can for one night on this
subject. We are all going to have to weigh in and see if we can come to some consensus on what to
recommend. It is a tough issue, and as Chair this evening, I will weigh in first on the discussion.
When the fiber ring came before the UAC for their recommendation, I was a proponent of
developing out that infrastructure. I happen to believe that Palo Alto is probably one of the more
progressive places on the planet, and that the Intemet access is certainly a big part of our culture here
and the Interact itself. When we approved the ring, it was my view that it would eventually allow
not just commercial but also residential establishments to have the ability to tie into the ’Net and at
high sp.eed. We have a bit of a dilemma here in that this trial that has been proposed clearly, on the
face of it, at least based on the staff report, the economics do not pencil out. When we approved the
fiber ring, it was on the basis of something on the order of a three- to five-year payback. In the last
quarter of the utility report, I even asked, are we going to start to get separate breakouts in terms of
the payback on the fiber ring. You said at that time that the indication was that we would be getting
those in. the future. I am very sensitive to the city’s utility providing service to the users, but at the
same time, it is a business that generates transfers to the General Fund and is solvent and right-side-
up.
Where I weigh in on this thing is two-fold. I alnderstand the logic, to some extent, of doing this trial
as a precursor to going out and soliciting third-party bids. But I still personally think there might be
a way to run those two activities in parallel. I do not see why we cannot prepare an RFP, and at the
same time, go back and try to develop a set of economic criteria on which the fiber trial could
proceed. I don’t think the economics presented tonight :-- we have seen the city’s report, and we have
heard from the Fibernet people and their view of the economics, and I think that clearly, there is
more work that needs to be done to look at the economics, come up with a set of economics that
makes this a program that the city would be comfortable in embarking upon, and it might even
necessitate going back out with a more aggressive outreach program in the two areas that have
shown preliminary interest, and try to get the subscription rates bolstered up enough, combined with
perhaps adjusting the revenues and looking at other ways to try and reduce cost, and come up with
a cost-effective program. Where I would weigh in on this thing is that I would like to-see both of
those activities proceed in parallel. I would like to see us move very quickly without further delay
to try and get some third-party providers to weigh in, and at the same time, go back, revisit the
economics, revisit an outreach program within the two areas that showed an interest, and try to refine
the economics in a way that we can meet a reasonable target that would allow a trial to be
considered. If that set of economic criteria cannot be achieved at all, then abandon the trial, but I
certainly think that it requires more work. That is where I would come out on this. It is not black
and white, but take the next step on both fronts and not abandon either one. That is my feeling on
it.
Commissioner Dawes:
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¯ economics have turned out to be the major stumbling block of what is essentially an R&D project
when the economics were acknowledged by staff to include a certain cost such as providing for
multiple ISPs that were acknowledged to be unnecessary in the trial. Yet, by. including them, it is one
of the extra costs that caused the project to be recommended for rejection.
As far as viewing this as an R&D project, I think that as the utility group moves into a more
competitive environment, there are going to be additional examples of having to take higher risks
than the department has been used to taking previously. In my view and in every corporation I have
dealt with, there have been monies set aside on an annual budget basis for R&D type trials.
Evidently, that is not the case with our utility business. I see Ed shaking his head, so perhaps there
is an R&D budget, but it seems to me that if this were viewed as an R&D budget item rather than
as a capital expenditure with a required payback, then perhaps we would get a little bit different spin
on it and be a lot more tolerant toward creating it as an expense, rather than as a capital expenditure
with a ,required payback. Obviously, we do everything in our power to have it be a viable project
that pays back, but I think it is less important if it is Viewed as an R&D program.
I stated that I agreed with the view that we need to readdress the cost and revenue side of the project,
with a view towards getting the expected payback. I would like to see it in under seven or eight
years, and we probably cannot improve it more than that, but I think we are getting into the realm
of some reasonableness in that regard.
I also subscribe to a parallel process to press forward:with the RFP for input from commercial firms,
as well as moving forward on the R&D projbet-:’
Commissioner Gruen: I think I am getting to the same conclusions, but I am getting there from a
different path. I think it is probably worthwhile to talk some about the two different parameters that
I am looking at. One is speed and the other is cost, or,the economics. Let me talk about speed, for
a start. To make it a little bit simpler for non-teckies to understand, let me talk about speed only in
terms ofmegabits per second. On that parameter, I have available for my residence and my home
office a number of different speeds. One is 0.03 megabits per second, another is 0.05 megabits per
second, and another is 0.11 megabits per second. I optimize among those, depending upon what I
am looking for. I knew I would be here this evening, therefore, I wanted to look at my E-mail during
the day. The 0.11 megabits per second is too expensive during the day, so I use the 0.03 megabits
per second service instead. My computer was able to produce E-mail in front of me with that line
faster than I could read it. I switched from one E-mail to the next, and the next would be there faster
thanI could shift focus with my eyes fi’om one part of the screen to another. So I was reading E-mail
just fine without benefit of any of the fast speeds that we have been discussing.
That goes to the discussion we heard earlier about the 80% ofPalo Altans who claim to have home
computers, and maybe three-quarters of those are "connected to the Internet." Well there I was
connected to the Internet reading my E-mail, but it is not the same kind of connection as ifI were
trying to download large quantities of data or trying to provide a Website for my home business from
my home at much lower speeds. For the medium range speeds which we have been talking about,
numbers in the range of half a megabit per second to one megabit per second, that is plausible for
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downloading lots of data. My example of that is the Ken Starr report, not because of the report, but
because enough people have seen the paperback and have an idea that a paperback little more than-
an inch thick has some amount of information in it. You can download that to your computer in less
than a minute on a line at 0.5 megabits or one megabit per second. Mostpeople are not going to read
that in anything close to a minute, so you can get a lot of data and then go searching through it, using
the computer to help you read it. That is a reasonable sort of thing, and that is something that
residents might want to do -- process that much data. When we talk about 10 megabits or 100
megabits per second, we are talking about things which are appropriate for my home office. I pay
money for those, and I think it is appropriate for my office, but it is not what most residents need for
their home. That is an opinion, but I think it does match the folks that I talk to.
What that really means is that I think there are two different markets available. One is the folks who
might want to move up from point 0 something megabits per second to the half a megabit or one
megab.it per second, and that is what Bob Moss and Cable Co-op are addressing. Then there is
another market which operates in the 10 to 100 megabits per second, or would like to. I am part of
that. I checked the box, but I don’t know that that is anywhere measured in the 30% or 50% of the
Palo Alto population this year. It may be five years from now, or it may be 100 years from now. I
keep in mind that when I first started using computer communications at home, I was happy to be
using 0.0001 megabits per second. I thought that was a lot better than the speed I had been using
before. And it was, but we do move on and we do look for higher speeds, and I am looking for
higher speeds, also.
So with that in mind, I would like to propose a’ motion. The motion is that we give two sorts of
things simultaneously. We go ahead with the RFP, trying to keep it sufficiently general that we can
hear from people who are offering different technologies and different services and different speeds,
and that city stafftry to pair people up with each other. So if someone has an interesting technology
but does not want to be in the service business, and someone else is in the service business but needs
some way of facilitating that, the city staff could point them at each other. So we go ahead with the
RFP, with the idea of looking for one or more people who would use the dark fiber network to
provide service to the residents, and especially to large groups of the residents, which I see to be in
that one megabit range.
At the same time, we revisit the fiber to the home with 10 to 100 m6gabits per second and look for
a set of economics which makes that viable. Again, my personal opinion is that I would be willing
to pay not $10 to $35 but $110 to $135 per month for service Which was measured in the 10 to 100
megabit range for my office, which just happens to be in my home. So I would like to see a proposal
which would address my office at home and would provide an economically viable thing such that
Van would say,.well, that is a way I could sell to start fiber, and would go and recommend it, and
management would say, yes, we can make some money on that, but I don’t think we are going to do
that at $10 a month. I don’t think we are going to do that even at $35 a month. I would like to see
a fiber-to-the-home proposal with costs which make even utility managers happy. That is a two-step
proposal.
Vice Chair Sahagian: Richard, could you phase that a little more compactly?
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T/M__Q.T.LQ~: Commissioner Green: I move that we recommend that the council ask staffto proceed
with the RFP, looking for one or more vendors aimed at providing residential service for many
residents, and at the same time, that we ask staff to revisit the fiber to the home, looking for a more
economically acceptable proposal, probably at higher prices, with which we could go forward.
SECOND: By Commissioner Dawes.
MOTION PASSES: Vice Chair Sahagian: That motion passes on a vote of 3-0.
Michael Eager: I would like to speak on behalfofPalo Alto Fibemet. We look forward to working
with the city and with the. staff on revising the fiber-to-the-home proposal to something that you
would find acceptable.
Reports of Officials/Liaison~
a. NCPA Commission Report
Vice Chair Sahagian: Dick Rosenbaum will provide us with an NCPA Report.
Councilman Rosenbaum: In time-honored fashion, you have the report before you. I will be happy
to answer any questions.
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Vice Chair Sahagian: It appears that we are mbviiag fi:om management by committee to management
by general manager. In a nutshell, is that a fair assessment?
Councilman Rosenbaum: In time-honored fashion, you have the report before you. I will be happy
to answer any questions. .
Councilman Rosenbaurn: There has been a movement back to giving the general manager more
authority, rather than having separate business unit boards, because there were no clear lines of
authority.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 11:30 p.m.
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