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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03261973CITY COUNCIL MfNUTEt Cli' MLO Minutes of the Meeting of March 26, 1973 The City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on this date at 7:35 p.m. in a regular meeting with Mayor Comstock presiding. Present: Beahrs, Berwald, Clark (arrived 7:45 pax.), Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Semen Absent: None Mayor Comstock announced that this evening Council would be addressing itself to several matters which had engendered high public interest. He said that Council would allow people who wished to express themselves to do so. After the public had spoken, the matter would be returned to Council for consideration. He stated that no one would be allowed to interrupt the business before Council and the condect of the meeting. Penal Code Section 403 prohibits the disruption of a public meeting, and he hoped there would be no violation. If disruption did occur, he would announce the disruption and ask that the meeting be brought back to order. If the meeting were not brought back to order, Council would adjourn or recess until order was restored. Persons violating Section 403 of the Penal Code would be prosecuted. Minutes of March 49, 1973 On page 189, Councilwoman Pearson corrected the fourth paragraph from the bottom to read as follows: "`'ice Mayor Norton asked if they were going to pack it to over 100% compaction and try to put plants there." On page I30, sixth paragrap:' from the top, Councilwoman Pearson asked that beginning with the end of line 3 with "She said..." the remainder of the paragraph be changed to read as follows: "She also objected to a 36 -foot - wide strip for parking cars and felt the area should be maintained in its natural state." On page 190, third paragraph from the bottom, third line, after the words "for study," Vice Mayor Norton asked that the remainder of the line read "to determine whether the full width of the easement requested is needed or should be granted in all places along its length, whether some parts should be used i.,r parking, whether all parts should be tightly compacted, and whether some parts should be landscaped." MOTION: Mayor Comstock coved, seconded by Berwald, that the minutes be approved as revised. The motion passed on e unanimous vote. peace` Shl-1 i1. 1 Ce Use Permit at 360 San Antonio Avenue Mayor Comstock noted that a request for continuance had been received from Shell 011 Company. 2 3 0 3/26/73 MOTION: Mayer Comstock moved, seconded by Beahrs, that the application of Shell Oil Comtany be considered out of order for the purpose of con- tinuance. The motion passed on a unanimous vote. MOTION: Mayor Comstock moved, seconded by Beahrs, that this application be continued for approximately 90 days to the Council meeting; nearest that time. The (notion to continue passed on a unanimous vote. lication of Al ha Land Co an for ange oL District - 7 San Antonio Avenue Mayor Comstock noted that Council had received from the Planning Commission a report and a copy of the Planning Commission minutes, the information from the applicant with proper maps, reports from the city staff, and letters from the public. Planning Director Napthali Knox reviewed the history of the property aid indicated the present recommendation from the Planning Commission was unanimous calling for approvalof the P -C development as follows: 140 market -rate condominiums on the northern half of the parcel., 14 of which will be leased to the County Housing Authority under Section 23 for low income housing. The south half of the parcel will be retained as open land for a period up to 2 years, with the understanding that, at such time as federally -assisted housing programa are reinstituted, this land will be used for 60 units of assisted housing and 1.5 acres of park land. At that time, the developer will be required to bring his plans before the Planning Commission avid go through the Planning Commission planned com- munity procedure again for the south half of the property. Councilwoman Pea -son commented that most of the setbacks are 20 feet or 35 feet except for one long skinny area which goes as close to the R-1 line as 12 feet, She wondered if those particular buildings could be moved back to give the nearby residences a larger setback so they don't have to take the brunt of the traffic, parking, and building. Mr. Knox responded that the Planning Commission had required that the setback be 12 feet. Councilwoman Pearson stated she did not think 12 feet was enough. The road would have a lot of traffic, and people living there would be sub- jected to the noise of the cars, and three residences would take the brunt of that traffic. She thought the whole project should be moved to give at least 20 feet there. She could not see that it did the project any harsh to say 20 feet instead of 12 feet. Planning Commission Chairman Mary Gordon said she did not see any problem with codifying the 12 feet to 20 feet, but she did think for the record it was fair to say that this road services only those units located at the end of the road. It does not serve the whole project. Councilwoman Pearson noted that the road in question is still a peripheral road, and she further expressed concern about allowing the builder and developer to build his market -priced housing before he builds the low - moderate income housing. She said she felt distressed and asked wi3at guarantee sloes the city have that at the end of the 2 years that some other Council might determine this wasn't a good idea, and they would 231 3/26/73 like to have something else there and have the P -C amended She asked what guarantee does the city have that there will be low -moderate income housing there. Mr. Knox responded that there is no real guarantee. The aeea that is not built upon is always subject to rezoning. He said what is proposed seemed to staff to be the best possible answer if it is the city's desire to pro- vide for low -moderate income housing given the present moratorium on pro- grams. The developer is providing units under Section 23, which are truly law -:income units. The planning staff feels that they are of the best kind, because they are not identifiable. Mayor Comstock thought that Councilwoman Pearson was asking haw binding is the present ordinance as drafted, and what would it take to rearrange it to respond to her concern. City Attorney Stone responded that what the city presently has is not a guarantee of any low -moderate income housing on that portion of the prop- erty. There is a guarantee that it will be left as open space for a period not to exceed two years. The only guarantee for low -moderate hosing would be effective if the national administration reinstituted something like a 236 program, because if that occurs there are certain andatory requirements on the developer to file and get started. Mayor Ca7stock commented that any attempt to modify usage would be subject to Council action. C t<<• Attorney Stone said that was correct. If Council. adopts this ordi- nance this evening, it is making a definite policy by ordinance that this area is reserved for ios:-moderate income housing. Mrs. Gordon added that it weal the Commission's intent not to approve at this time the plans that were presented for the low --moderate income housing. The Planning Commission simply wanted to make sure that the land would be reserved for that usage for a period of up to two years. Councilwoman Pearson commented that when Alpha Land Company built Oregon Green, the city had no definite guarantee that if they got their market - priced housing that they would follow through end build the low -moderate income housing, but Alpha Land Company did meet that commitment. She said this is a larger risk. She also expressed concern about the units being separated. There are two distinct communities within the project. Also, throughout the Planning Commission minutes there were comments uhout noise from San Antonio Road for the people who live there. She asked if Councilhas anything to say about enuuriag construction which makes the housing soundproof and prevents noise being transmitted from one house to another. How strict are the construction standards to require that the units that are going to be built will be as noise free as possible? City Attorney Stone responded that the construction requirements for con- dominiums and/or apartments do not relate directly to the noise factor. They relate to use of certain materials, some of which are #lore noise proof than others. Noise testing does not have to be accomplished Councila.an Berwald agreed with Councilwoman Pearson's concern over the 20 -foot setback. He asked if the grade would be level with the grade of Monteosa or sunken. He was also concerned about the entrance off Suther- land. 'The residents are concerned that it may not be stubbed off and may continue into low --moderate incov housing as a driveway. He asked the City Attorney if it is possible to dedicate the park up to that end of Sutherland ac that it could not be opened. 23 3/26/73 Planning Director Knox indicated that the intent of the original plan was to not extend Sutherland Drive and to prevent its ever being extended. In the original plan, a park was placed at that location. It was also an attempt to elongate the park along the boundary of the project to buffer the neighboring houses. He indicated that none of those plans would have a bearing on the present application. The Planning Commission felt that there were some problems with those applications and wanted to restudy it at the time the program is reinstituted. Councilman Berwald commented that in reading the minutes he assumed the developer was willing to dedicate the park now. Mr. Knox said that was correct, but the Planning Commission and staff felt if the delay were going to be reluired on the assisted housing, it was better to delay plans for the south half of the property ---the housing, parking, park, and perimeter read --and restudy the entire matter in the future. Referring to the perimeter road and the park along the boundary, Council- man Berwald asked if the original intent was for that to be a linear park around the present proposal. Mr. Knox referred to a slide which was being projected, and indicated there were several objectives: 1) to provide some buffering for the single- family residences to the west; and 2) to provide the major part of the park somewhat centrally within the proiect so that resid..nts of the market - rate coodominiu:r and residents of the 236 rental housing could use the park. Councilman Rosenbaum referred to the 14 units of leased housing and asked if the developer were going to maintain ownership, and how long would this arrangement cc'atinue. Mr. Knox replied that his understanding is that leases up to 10 years are possible. He suggested that the zuestion be directed to Mr. Burns of the Housing Authority. John Burns, Santa Clara County Housing Authority, responded that in this particular instance, the Housing Authority would lease the units from the developer who would continua to own the units. He indicated that in this type of project there is a condomir 1 um owners' association. In all prob- ability, depending an the legality, the Heeling Authority would become a member of that board of directors and would be able to present their ideas on how to run the project. The owners would maintain o'ttnership and pay fees inherent in the condominium association. Councilman Rosenbaum asked the duration of the arrangement. Mr. Burns replied that at this time the Housing Authority is offering a five-year lease with a three-year option. Co:aacilaan Rosenbaum asked if there is any obligation on the part of the developer to continue in this program beyond that time. Mr. Burns responded that at that point it is the developer's option. Councilman Rosenbaum counted that the rentals in the open market might rent from $200 to $300 a month. The Housing Authority's limits are con- siderably lower. He asked if this had been worked out with the developer to provide a subsidy of that magnitude for that length of time. 2 3 3 3/26/73 Mr. Burns responded that the developer is aware that there is a tremen- dous gap. Negotiations have not been completed as yet. Councilman Rosenbaum asked if he were correct in assuming that the piggy back program, if it ever comes to be, would not be used in connection with these units. Mr. Burns responded that Councilman Rosenbaum's assumption was correct. Councilman Rosenbaum commented that Council usually has before it eleva- tions of a better quality than the ones that have been presented here. He asked at what point more details will be presented to the city. Planning Director Knox replied that he hoped at the next phase the Archi- tectural Review Board would be considering such things as the elevations of this project. Responding to Mayor Comstock regarding referral to the Architectural Review Board, City Attorney Stone stated that in all of the F -C develop- ments in the city, the use permit must be obtained prior to construction. From the use permit standpoint there are those hearings to accomplish prior to the t{me that any construction starts, or any real inflexibility occurs. Councilman Rosenbaum asked if this project would be going to the Archi- tectural Review Board. Mr. Knox responded that, assuming the Architectural Review Board is in existence, staff was fairly sure it had the discretion to assign any pro- ject under their purview to the Architectural Review Board. Councilman Rosenbaum asked why such assignment isn't automatic. Mr. Knox explained further that at the next meeting of the Planning Comp -- mission, on April 28, it will be hearing some changes to the architectural review procedures to tidy up one aspect so that the Planning Commission and the Architectural Review Board do not duplicate efforts. There is a provision that will be considered for discussion whereby any matter that comes before the Planning Commission would not also go to the Architectural Review Board. In cases like that, it would be ` discretionary natter whether to send At to the review board or net. It would not automatically go to both boards. Councilman Rosenbaum asked if it would be all right if Council inserted a provision to the effect that these plans, when they are presented in more detail, have to go to one or the other. City Attorney Stone said that that would be perfectly all right, but it should not be that it go to one or the other. Ordinarily, this applica- tion would not go back to the Planning Commission. it goes to the Zoning Administrator for a use permit. In this instance, it could be referred to the Architectural Review Board for review and advice to the Zoning Administrator. Councilman Rosenbaum recalled that items are supposed to go to the Archi- tectural review Board first, but the Architectural Review Board is not set up as yet. The drawings are not those that the Planning Commission usu- ally sees, and he thought it should go back to the ARB to work out the procedure later on. 2 3 4 06/73 1 Councilman Beahrs commented that he realized the profiles presented were tentative, and he must say that he finds them rather appealing as far as the market housing is concerned. He was somewhat disturbed that the 236 housing will be flat tops. He found it difficult to harmonize the pro- files shown with flat tops. He said he certainly hoped that architecturally these developments will be completely harmonious, because there is so much difference in Many respects. He hoped something would give a good solid relationship to the whole project. Mrs. Gordon commented that the Planning Commission was concerned about L ny details of the low -moderate income housing. Therefore, they did not approve any of those plans. There is nothing before Council as recom- mended by the Planning Commission that would constitute approval of those plans in any way. Councilman Beahrs further hoped that the garages in the low -moderate in- come housing could be put underground also. He felt it was too bad to destroy land area if it is at all possible to put garages underground. Mr. John Griffin, executive vice president of Alpha Land Company, stated that they are proposing 140 market -priced housing condominiums. These condominiums will be higher in price than Oregon Green primarily because they are not required to build FHA and do not have fixed price limits that they have to meet. Alpha Land Company has agreed that up to 14 of these units will be leased to the County Housing Authority under Section 21. It is a double subsidy in which the developer is agreeing to subsidize a substantial amount of the rental, and the Housing Authority subsidizes the rest of it. They feel this is a reasonable way and perhaps the only way the city is going to get lower cost housing in today's circumstances. Also, under these terms, the city will get a higher quality low-priced housing. He said the site plan is unique. The buildings are not rigidly parallel. The parkirg is underground. Only about 25% of the ground area is covered by structures and the rest is open. He said the architect is well known and will also be the architect of the low-income housing. He predicted that well within the two-year period something would break and the federal goverment would be back with another program. Referring to Councilwoman Pearsora's question regardint the road, he said the road dote not serve too many units, and it will be depressed 2 of 3 feet. He said perhaps instead of allowing a 20 -foot setback, it would be better to accomplish the sound barrier through planting of shrubbery or trees. He ssid moving the road 8 feet does not really accomplish much soundaise, but does eat into the living area of the project. Councilman Berwald asked Mr. Griffin to repeat what he half said about the depression of the road. Mr. Griffin replied that on the back of the project, along that service road, the driveway will be depressed 2 or 3 feet. That will be mounted up in a terrace to the back property line. Councilmen iletwald said that a point was wade by the Environmental Speci- alist about the noise, particularly at that point where the unit on the bottom left side of the map points in an open horseshoe toward Montrose. Without much landscaping in that interior courtyard, this arrangement will serve as an echo chamber and direct noise toward Montrose. Ht wondered if the developer had cousidere4 any methods to caseate a sound barrier. Hr. Griffin responded that it is a large horseshoe with aR landscaped park- ing arta in the middle that breaks tp the sound transfer. It will also be depressed. The main thing that creates an echo chamber is if buildings are parallel They have done their best to keep these from being parallel, *Id they will reflect noise %ore towards the court than out. 233 3/26/73 7-1171.11111-111--gl , See Page 282 Councilman Berwald asked if the final landscaping and gradinf plan would be approved by the Planning Commission. He said this is often done in a P -C. Mr. Griffin said they would volunteer to do so. Councilman Eerwald asked if that would be satisfactory to the Planning Commission, aid Mrs. Gordon responded that it would be. Councilman Berwald commented that that area could be a barren area even with landscaping in the middle. The landscaping plans do not show an;+ other planting on the inside of the u -shaped complexes. He asked if there were going to be some other spot landscaping adjacent to the houses. Mr. Griffin responded that each of the units would have a landscaped entry from the parking area 9 to 12 feet wide and 10 to 15 feet deep. Councilman Berwald asked how the developer would receive the idea of a requirement being put on for some type: of trellis over the parking areas in the inside of the complexes so that there would be a place for vines to grow and it would be more attractive for the people in the area. Mr. Griffin responded that he would have no objection. He said they would be happy to submit something to the Planning Commission and the Zoning Administrator for their approval. Vice May=or Norton referred to the question raised by Councilman Rosenbaum about the lease comitment. He asked what assurance the city has that these suisidized units will tie, in fact, leased to the county for five to eight years or indefinitely. Mr. Griffin replied that the developer would be willing to agree that the necessary papers wii:. be executed for the five-year lease and the three- year option prior to the time the city issues the occepancy permit. Vice Mayor Norton asked what his guess would be as to what would happen in eight years if that is all there is a legal agreement for. Mr. Griffin responded that the developer would be willing to leave the option open and see what happens at that time. The actual subsidy on their part exceeds $100 per month per unit. It will be a substantial sub- sidy for a considerable mount of time. His understanding from talking to Mx. Burns is that they can only legally sign an agreement for the eight years. Vice Mayor Norton remarked that if there is no way of making it more per- manent, thecity may not, in the long -run, be getting the lour -cost housing it wants in exchange for the density that it is getting otherwise. Mr. Griffin replied that this is the problem in almost all of the govern- mental subsidies. Be said they did everything they could to see that people who bought units in Colorado Park were residents, but they can't make any guarantee, primarily because the government won't let them. Couecilwo mn Pearson reported that she had received a letter from a resi- dent of Oregon Green stating beat one of the major probless in . the units there is noise. This parson said that the noise transmission in his unit was due to poor ceiling insulation, and appealed that steps be taken to prevent such developments in the future. She asked what the developer vet doing *bout noise. 236 3/26/73 Mr. Griffin responded that soundproofing is a major concern of Alpha Land Company. He had no knowledge of any previous complaints from Oregon Green. He said they used new methods and the decibel rating exceeded FHA require- ments. He continued with a brief explanation of some of the construction methods that Alpha uses in attempting to decrease noise. He said measuring noise level in the units with meters reveals that there is very good sound protection. However, for example, it would be difficult to take the noise of the bass notes of stereo and keep it out. Answering a further question from Councilwoman Pearson, Mr. Griffin said they would not be using the same architect who designed Oregon Green. He stated that when a developer has to develop a unit to sell for $21,000 maximum, it is a different matter from what they had here. Councilwoman Pearson said she was considering the possibility of changing section 2{a}, second paragraph, towards the end of the sentence to say, "and a public park of approximately 1.5 acres dedicated at the city's request without cost nr expense to the city" and delete the words after that, which would mean that the area Alpha Land Company is developing would remain in effect for low --moderate income housing until they came back to Council with a different kind of proposal. Mr. Griffin asked if she meant a permanent moratorium. He said the way he read the ordinance, as it is written u,w, it does not preclude Alpha from coming in a year from now with some other proposal. He didn't think that it made any difference. Councilwoman Pearson said m e felt it lade a difference. It deletes the time limit of 2 years and makes it permanent. Mr. Griffin eaid he would have no objection to such an amendment. Terry Johnson, 726 Maplewood, representing the Charleston Gardens Resi- dents, spoke in opposition to the proposed development. Glenn O'Dell, 4102 Sutherland Drive, discussed the provision to set aside a portion of the property for low-income housing. Brooke Kantor, 951 Bryant, staff meatier of MCFH, spoke in favor of the proposal with come reservation. Charlotte Doty, 4109 Sutherland, expressed concern about the proposed den- sity. Robert Cuilenbine, 2875 Ramona, spoke in opposition to the project. John Philo, 2264 Louis Road, representing the Palo Alto Tenants' Union, expressed disappointment that the city is losing the opportunity to use the property entirely for low -e detate income housing. Barbara Greea, 4118 Sutherland, said that Palo Alto does not need to lower its standards. People v o are in favor of bringing the standard down live nowhere near the proposed project. MOTION: Councilman Berwald introduced the following ordinance and moved, seconded by Rosenbaum, its approval for first reading: "ORD"1W CE OF THE COUNCIL OF TEE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING SECTION 18.08,030 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE (THE ZONING MAP) TO CHANGE THE CLASSIFICATION OF PR0PE XY KNOW AS 777 SAN ANTONIO FROM M -1 -S -D TO P -C, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS" (second reading 4/9/73) 2.3 7 3/26/73 AMENDMENT: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Norton, that the ordi- nance be amended to indicate that final landscaping and grading plans are to be approved by the Planning Commission. The amendment passed on a unanimous vote. AMENDMENT: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Beahrs, that the ordi- nance be amended to state that the final elevations, including exterior architecture and surfacing materials, be returned to the Planning Com- mission for approval. Councilman Berwald explained that the reason for his amendment was that the only exteriors that are shown are the ones of the elevation facing the garden area and the plans don't show the elevation facing the garden area. He wanted to be sure the interior is as attractive as the exterior. Councilwoman Pearson wondered why Councilman Berwald didn't suggest that this be sent to the Architectural Review Board if #.t happens to be in existence then, Planning Commission Chairman Mary Gordon said that the Planning Commission is covering the P -C applications, which are normally reviewed by them. Mr. Knox said it would be better in this instance to have the Planning Commission he the sole body to review both the landscaping and the archi- tectural features. City Attorney Stone counted that it does not fit in with the ARB at this stage of the proceedings. In the normal course of events this would be the last step other than the use permit. Requiring the landscaping to go back to the Planning Commission would be inserted as 2(e) and if the Council desires the architectural features to have additicnal review and approval, that should be done in the same fashion as the landscaping. Also, the ARB does not exist as yet. The amendment passel on a unanimous vote. AMENDMENT: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Norton, that the P -C plan be further auended to pzovide for the construction of trellises over the exterior parking, the design of which to be referred to the Planning Commission for approval. Councilwoman Pearson said she objected because she was not sure trellises are what she would want over the car ports. She sai.d they may look f unny , If this passes, it will be a requirement of the P -C that the developers have to include trellises. She felt that if the architect decides he needs ivy to cover his mistakes, that will be up to hie, and the Planning Commission. Councilman Beahrs said he would rather see the garages put under the struc- tures or not covered. Councilman Henderson felt such a requirement meant Council was getting too much into detail. He would rather leave the entire landscaping ques- tion open. The amendment was approved on the following vote: Ayes: Berwald, Comstock, Norton, Rosenbaum Semen Noes: .Beahrs, Clark, Henderson, Pearson 23$ 3/26/73 Councilman Berwald commented that he had met recently with 15 people in the Montrose -Sutherland area. It is apparent that the residents are not of one mind with respect to this development. The major reasons for dis- approval are the low-income housing features and density. There are fears that the neighborhood will be downgraded, particularly because of the low - moderate housing and Section 23 residents. He told them that he did not think that this was a particularly valid comment, but he said tonight he observed the difficulty this Connell has in planning. Each Councilman must make up his own mind based on his values when there is one group coming complaining that the city does not have enough law -moderate income housing, and the other group complaining because there is any at all. The part that bothered him is that Council seems to be foreclosing the poesibility of a really mixed neighborhood by foreclosing any possibility of single-family horses to give some extension or continuity to the exist- ing R-1 neighborhood. He did not know if any other Council member shared his concern, but it seemed to him that Council was going to one extreme, with one Council person suggesting no limit on law -income housing, and he had tended to go in the other direction with some single-family housing. It bothered him that some 100 people in the immediate area had to pass petitions to oppose the project, and he wondered if these people would feel that they had been heard and that Council was really listening. }e said he also had questions about the height of the building, the possibil- ity of having a portion of the remaining 4.7 acres placed in R-1 develop- ment, the intrusion on privacy because of height of the buildings, and clarification that before low-roderate income housing goes in there, there will be a public hearing. He also felt that the questions about water and sewage flooding should be answered by staff. AMENDMENT: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Berwald, that recom- mendation (b) , Improvements, second paragraph, state that "Service roads shall be a minimum distance of 20 feet from the adjacent residential prop- erty line.": Councilman Clark said he was concerned when Council makes an arbitrary shift in the number of feet like this. He asked for an opinion from Mr. KOPDX or Mrs. Gordon, because two different experts had said two dif- ferent things. Mrs. Gordon responded that she was concerned also when this matter was before the Playing Commission that there be a buffer protecting the ad- jacent neighbors. She said she felt that 20 feet was a reasonable approach. The plans show evergreen screening in this area. She urged the Council to require that there should be a thick screening in there to reinforce the 20 -foot buffer. Councilman Rosenbaum said that in reading literature, he had come to believe thatt shrubbery had little effect on noise --distance is the thing. He felt that 20 feet should be required. The emendment was approved on a unanimous vote. Counci.bem an Pearson asked City Attorney Stone about her suggestion of deleting the period of two years, and asked if it would have the effect that property would be held until low -moderate income housing protect is deve loped . City Attorney Stone said he could legally assure her that whether the lass half of the sentence to there or is out, nothingcan happen on that par- ticular piece of property until Council or the developer comes in for specific development plans. However, two years commits the Cot-ncil policy. 239 3/26173 until that policy changes. Council is committed to low -moderate income housing on that site, under the ordinance before Council, for a period of 2 years. After that time it is an empty P -C with no policy with respect to the use of it, but no development can go in there without Council approval. AMENDMENT: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Semen, that the ordi- nance be amended in Section 2(a), paragraph 2, line 10, to put a period after the word "city" and delete the remainder of the paragraph. See Page 282 240. 3/26/73 Councilman Clark commented that would be tied up in limbo until subsidize it themselves, or the he understood then that this property such time as Palo Alto decided it would goverment decided to do it. Mayor Comstock replied that Council would have to take specific action to amend the ordinance to e,sta'olish some other use so the developer could come to Council and request to be relieved from this requirement, but Council would have to take action to accomplish it. The amendment was approved on the following vote: Ayes Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Semen Noes: &ewers , Berwald Vice Mayor Norton asked the C.ty- Attorney if he could think of any legal way of ext'nding the city's assurance of the low -moderate nature of the housing beyond the five-year lease and the three-year optioiz. He asked if the city could negotiate an agreement with the developer in the interim between the first a►nd second reading that wouii give a greater measure of assurance that whatever comparable program exists in five or eight years will be made available so that it does not go at the end of eight years into market -priced housing. City Attorney Stone responded that he supposed a Section 2.; leasing arrange- ment could be entered into between the developer and the county for a period of one year, and that would satisfy the ordinance. Council could put on any number of years. The problem is that the developer is only bound to the extent that he can negotiate a final agreement with the county because the county is not subject to this ordinance. One aspect of negotiation could be looked into --the developer giving to the city the right of first refusal at the -end of the lease period. Vice Mayor Norton said he would like to do something like that. He asked for Mr. Griffin's comments on efforts to achieve what he was talking about. Mr. Griffin said that he was not a lewyer, but he thought that he could give the city the right of first refusal at the end of the 5 or 8 years. Mr. Griffin asked the Council to revise the mix from 40 two -bedroom, tvo- bath units and 60 two -bedroom, one -ball units to 60 too -bedroom, two -bath and 40 two --bedroom, one-bati AFON NT: Councilman Ftervald moved, seconded by Seabre, that the developer be permitted to c natruct 60 two -bedroom, two -bath units and 4O two -bedroom, cane -bath units. The amendment was approved on the fAlowing vote: Ayes: Hasbro „ Berwald, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Rosenbaum, Semen : Pearson Mrs. Gordon noted that under (b) on the third sheet of the drawing the words should be changed to delete the reference to a period of 2 years. AMENDMENT: Mayor Comstock moved, seconded by Henderson, to revise the asap to change the wording to reflect Council action on the ordinance ?egarding the 2 -year time period and land allocation for the park. The amendment was approved on the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Semen Noes: Berwald Councilman Berwald indicated that one thing that had not been discussed was lighting. With this number of units, how can the adjacent R-1 resi- dents and people within the development be protected? He wondered if the lighting should come back along with the landscaping. Mrs. Gordon responded that this normally Is covered with the application for the use permit and is reviewed carefully. The ordinance as amended was approved for first reading; oit the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Berwald, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Rosenbaum, Semen Noes: Pearson MOTION: Vice Mayor Norton :coved, seconded by Semen, that staff be directed to return at the time of second reading of the ordinance with an agreement negotiated with the developer which gives the city the best legal assurance that the time of the subsidy on the 14 units extends beyond any period that the county may be interested in. The motion passed on the following vote: Ayes: Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Sewn Noes: Beahrs, Berwald t a of District of P er r t and A Street MOTION: Mayor Comstock introduced the following ordinance and moved, seconded by Pearson, its approval for first reading: "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO MENDING SECTION 18.08.030 OF THE PAID ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE TO CHANGE THE ZONING OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES KNOWN AS 4001 AND 4031 ALMA STREET FROM R -1:S -$:A TO %-C, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, AND REPEALING ORDINANCE NO. 2615, AS AMENDED, WHICH RELATES TO 4031 ALMA STREET" (second reading 4/9/73) Councilman Berwald indicated that this development Is close to his back yard and he checked with some of the neighbors in the area and they had two objection. They feet it is a oality development except for the height of the roof line which is21 feet. He wondered if that had been considered by the. Planning Commission and if that extra height wag con- sidered essential by the developer. 3 4 1 3/26/73 Planning Commission Chairman Mary Gordon responded that the Commission did not specifically discuss the roof lines. She recalled that this is within the limitations set for R-1 areas, and it would be difficult to require a more stringent standard. Councilman Berwald said that Greenmeadow by deed is restricted to one story. He referred to exhibit 5, condition 6 (Section 3, item 3 of the ordinance), that states that a masonry wall or berm or approved equiva- lent be constructed along Alma with a minimum patio or yard space of 20 ft. He said that when you get down to the area on the right-hand bottom of the drawing on Alma Street, it is important that there be some security for those apartments, that a gate be locked and a wall around that portion of the property from the building to the left to the pedestrian entry to the end and a fence down the sides to protect the buildings without fences around them.. He was thinking of adding to condition 3 "subject to design approval by the staff prior to the start of development." Mayor Comstock noted that the ordinance says that the wall or screen or berm shall be approved by the city staff. Councilman Berwald asked that the staff take that into consideration. Councilwoman Serar said her concern was the rental house which has to be removed. She asked when would that house b.,-! derrolisheJ. City Attorney Store said the house would be demolished at the time the building permit was taken out for the new structure. Councilman Beahrs said his only question was one raised by Councilman Berwald regarding protection along Alma Street. He hoped the staff would require a masonry wall. Mrs. Gordon said that, as she understood the plans, there are spaces that occur between the condominium units. She asked if they meant that there should be some security that would not allow any access between those buildings as well is the open common area. Mayor Comstock said as he understood it, the ordinance was addressed to the wall around the patio areas themselves. The space between the houses is not going to be covered by that ordinance. Mr. Knox agreed and said that the Planning Commission's concern vas that there be sole kind of noise barrier provided by the berm or masonry wall between the holes and Alma. The architect made a plea for flexibility. He felt from the standpoint of design motif, it should be carried out in wood. Mayor Comstock Said just go Council is clear, the ordinance as proposed is addressed to the drawings which Council has; If the ordinance is not changed, the Council is speaking of the walls which go around the patios and do not surround the entire development. Councilman terwe.ld suggested that staff be aware of this, and before final use permit iS granted, it should be discussed. Councilman Beahrs said he could not agree with the architect's concern. He did not thick the wall ffecte4 t..he development at all. From the stand- point of aecurity, noise reduction, and traffic protection, a wall would be superi.or to a wood fence: 2 4 2 3/26/73 Mrs. Gordon said it was the concern of the Planning Commission that there be some sort of continuous buffering along there that would offer protec- tion all the way along Alma. That was the intent of the ordinance as it is before Council. MOTION: Councilman Beahrs moved that it be a concrete wall or block. The motion died for lack of a second. Vice Mayor Norton asked if it would be more helpful if language were added to Section 3 to make clear that the berm was primarily for the purpose of noise protection. AMENDMENT: Vice Mayor Norton moved, seconded by Pearson, that Section 3 of the ordinance be amended as follows: -after the words "equivalent screen" insert "as a barrier against noise from the adjoining traffic." The amendment was approved on a unanimous vote. The ordinance as amended. was approved for first reading on a unanimous vote. (Council recessed from 9:40 to 9:57 p.n.) cal o and Doni R. Saunders Re Variances at 455 Margarita Avenue Mayor Comstock noted that Council had received the Planning Commission minutes, a staff report, copies of letters .from Mr. and Mrs. Saunders, record of the public hearing, with drawings that accompanied the hearing record. The Commission had recommended that the request for a variance be denied. Councilwoman: Pearson asked two questions concerning the report from Mr. Glanville. At the bottom of page 2, it says that the structure must com- ply with the minimum requireeents of the Building Code. She asked instead of this, could it comply to the Housing Code which is not as restrictive. Secondly, page 3 says that city records disclosed that the garage was built in 1951 and that in July of 1971 it was not being used for human habita- tion. She asked how the city determines whether or not a building is being inhabited. Director of Inspectional Services Ben Pswioski responded that in answer to the first question, the reference is the lousing Code. The deficiencies were with respect to the ?dousing Code. Secondly, in July of 1971, ;he city responded to a complaint about abandoned vehicles on the property. At the tin of that inspection, it was observed from the outside and appeared that the garage structure was being used asa garage. He said they were not inside the karage. Jay S. Saunders, 1017 Fulton, said it was quite poasfble that a.t the tine the city responded ; to the complaint, there was no one living in the unit. However, the unit was there. He said in lacing over every possible thing he could to substantiate that claim, he vent back to the listing from which he purchased the property. He passed a copy of the luting, which showed no garage, to Counci l . Vice Mayor Norton Aced Mr. Saunders tf tfi had any idea hove much longer his daughter ,wanted to live there . -- 213 3/26/73 Mr. Saunders replied that he did not know, that she was attending Foothill College now and working part time. Richard Herndon, 1554 Walnut Drive, a real estate broker, said he did not sell the property, but he was speaking on the matter because it involves an issue of general consideratiou. He felt the issue was whether or not all single family residences with a garage converted to a dwelling unit be required to reconvert that room to a garage. Councilman Henderson said Mr. Herndon was speaking of many garages that have been converted. He asked if he were speaking of detached garages or were they usually attached. Mr. Herndon responded that he had seen both. It is common, especially in the older parts of town. Councilman Rosenbaum commented that Mr. Herndon had touched upon a point which is relevant to the city's presale inspection. He asked if Mr. Herndon were saying, as a knowledgeable real eotate broker, that he would not want to tell a prospective buyer that there is an illegal structure on the property he wishes to purchase. Mr. Herndon responded that he would not want to tell the present owners that, even though the structure has been there for many years, that the city would not close it down. Doni Saunders, 1017 Fulton Streit, said that one point that had not been brought up previously was the fact that one of the requirements of the Building Department is to have covered parking. In order to have covered parking, they would have to remove most of the back yard or reconvert the garage. Perhaps the humanitarian tendencies of the Planning Commission and the City Council are defeated by worrying about covering a car. The city has been worried about the lack of low-cost housLng and now is core— sidering tearing something out that is already existing. John Roger, 703 Addison, spoke in favor of Council's allowing the variance. Robin Saunders, 455 Margarita, spoke in favor of Council granting the variance and peztitting her to keep her house. Herbert Lapham, 460 Margarita, said that during the past year, 455 Marga- rita has been improved at least 1002 in its outward appearance and by the people living there. Councilwoman Pearson said this kind of thing distresses her because she believes the Saunders purchased the property in good faith and perhaps they were the victims of real estate business. She said someone is occu- pying the place. At the public bearing there were no protests except moody did not want another structure built next to it. She believed that could be a condition. She also felt that they had had requests for variances before where they were swayed because the neighbors were about to bring in the whole neighborhood and speak in favor of the variances. She said she also knows of detached garages being used as dwelling units. Maybe some of them will be found out and Council will have appeals at that time, She said she felt the Saunders should not be penalised for someone else's deliberate errors in the past. She suspected that when their daughter moves out, another young Person would move in. It is difficult to find housing for a young person out of your own house. MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Semen, to uphold the appeal of Jay and Doni Saunders and grant the variance with the condition attached that if any structure is built next to the present structure, Mr.. Saunders will be required to tear it down. 2 4 4 3/26/73 Councilman Honderscn said his probler° was two -fold. He received two calls from neighbors who asked that Council uphold the Planning Commission on the basis that if Council puts its stamp of approval on this type of thing, it will open the dam. There is upgrading in general of the neighborhood and this seems to be a step backward. Council has always had the problem of things being built that do not meet code. Permits are not obtained, and later Council approves such construction. On the other hand, as he listens to the testimony, it makes it almost impossible to throw somebody out of a home. He said if anyone would comment on what they would expect from Council officially approving the conversion of a detached garage so it is not an opening wedge for this happening all over --it is not so mooch where they are at the moment, it is that many homes in the neighborhood have the same situation --a small detached garage people might want to con- vert. Councilman Beahrs said he was somewhat disturbed by the apparent conflict with the record. He said he could not get over the statements of Mr. Glanville who says that applicant in his letter of application claims at the time he purchased the property, he was informed someone had always used the structure for living quarters. City records disclosed that in July of 1971 it was not used for human habitation and did not violate the ordinance at that time. He said he had heard a lot of discussion which he understood indicates that this premise has been used for human habita- tion over a more extended period of time, and city records seem to be at conflict. He said he was sympathetic to the applicants; however he did not think Co=uncil should put a stamp of approval on this forever. He hopes Council could put a time limit on it. AMENDMENT: Councilman Beahrs arov.3d, seconded by Clark, that this variance be permitted for a period of five year:. Councilwoman Seman asked City Attorney Stone to respond to the amendment. City Attorney Stoa.a responded that the code allows a variance to be granted with a certain set duration. Unless it is for that duration, it would be for the life of the structure. He added that granting the variance does not relieve the property from being brought up to the standards of the Building Code. This is not a grandfather situation. Some of the Building Code violations are life hazard requirements. The variance will have little effect on those :natters. Hr. Pawloieki commented that most of these kinds of violations cow to the city's attention as the result of complaints from neighbors. They are pursued on that basis. Right now there are similar situations in the com- munity where people have converted garages and action is pending. There are at least two laweuits in the city right :now. Mayor Comstock commented that some of the comments that have been wade by the public this evening :lave been directed at some of the members of the city staff and have had an unfortunate tone to them. The implication is that the building inspectors and staff members who have the job of carry- ing out the enforcement of the Building Code are either bad people or people who are going around trying to do people in. He ss:id he took ex- ception to that. Realistically, Council sets she policy which is converted to a €yet of requirements, and Council gives staff the authority and direction on what their obligations are. It is not arrays easy for staff members to tell a property owner he is in violation of the Code. At least for the record he said he would like it to be clear that there is not a malicious thing going on here. He said that Council and staff are trying to assure the community of good con trueticn. Secondly, regarding this particular situation, obviously it is one of great personal concern to the people 245 3/26/73 involved. The city does not have any grudge against them. He hopes that they recognize the obligation of staff to enforce requirements. He said he could not believe that if the applicants had filed the proper applica- tion and asked Council for permission to convert the garage, that Council would have ever given it serious consideration. He said that the Saunders have bought property thinking they were going to get a certain use out of it, and the city is saying that isn't the case. Re did not believe any- one on the Council Could seriously consider an application to take a garage and convert it to a dwelling unit. He said he was arguing against the motion and the five-year time period in the spirit that this thing is just not an individual problem. It is not the same kind of problem they have faced with other kinds of variances. Allowing this would open a Pandora's Box. Other people would justifiably come and say that the:' want the same thing. He said that Council had a problems which would not,be solved by trying co help out Mr. Saunders. The problem would grow. He said he thought Council should understand that it places the people who enforce these things in a difficult position. They will continue to try to enforce them as beast they can. He said Council should be very careful about being a party to meting the need for low-income housing with that kind of housing. He urged a vote against the amendment and against the amain motion. Councilman Betwald said he tended to agree with Mayor Comstock. He asked if Council upholds the Planning Commission's recommendation, can it stay the exec=ution of the denial for a reasonable period to allow the occupant to find other housing. He said he would consider a reasonable period as perhaps a year, with the condition that some of the minimum fire and safety hazards might be taken care of. Mr. Pawloski saiC staff is as concerned about the dislocation of the occu- pant of the building as Council is, but the problem to be addressed is the immediate life safety hazard that exists. Councilman Berwaid asked the City Attorney if the city would be exposing itself to any liability. He said he agreed with the Mayor on upholding the staff's denial oi- a wriance. Council cannot ask staff to uphold the lsw and than tell them they should not do it. Staff will be reluctant to uphold the building standard, but reasonable time should be given to the occupant to find other quarters. City Attorney Stone said that with respect to liability, he did not believe the exposure is very heavy in most cases because there is a specific statu- tory exemption in the case oflicenaes granted by the city. However, the situation has become serione in San Francisco. With respect to. a reasonable time limit, assuming the Planning Commission recommendation is upheld, he did rut feel it was necessary for Council to set a time limit for phase -out. That is handled daily atstaff level. Councilman Aerwald said, assuming that Council upholds the Planning Cow. mission recommendation, would it be within the realm of possibility that the city would insist that life safety hazards be corrected immediately and allow the persoc to stay there for a reasonable length of tine. City Attorney Stone said he would not suggest it would be any particular length of time, but a reasonable period of tine would be given, and life hazards would be corrected mediate ly . Councilwoman Pearson said she toured the neighborhood, and'the applicants had done a good job in helping to upgrade the neighborhood It was one of the most attractive places. Host of the houses were ressy... She -said she disagreed with Mayor Comstock. For eight years someos. haas been tell- ing her Chat Pandora's box would be opened, and it hasn't happened. She 246 3/7k/73 did not think it would happen in this case either. She said Council is the last hoard of appeal for these people. Council is not telling the staff not to uphold the laws. Council has a right in this instance to say that they think human tights are more important than the Building Code. With the time limit added, she thought that the amended motion was reason- ab le . Councilwoman Seman asked staff to describe the life hazard problems. Hr. Pavloski said that they :%re not sure the electrical system is grounded; however they may find that it is. Also, they feel that one of the vents going through the roof is not a metalhestos vent. The vent heats up and could cause the roof to catch on fire. The amendment failed on the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Clark, Seman Noes: Berwald, Comstock, E"enderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum The motion failed on the following vote: Ayes: Pearson Noes: Beahrs, Berwaj_dd, Clark, Con6tock, Henderson, Norton, Rosenbaum, Se, -an MOTION: Mayor Comstock moped, seconded by Norton, that Council uphold the recommendation of the Planning Commission to deny the appeal of Jay and Doni Saunders from the decision of the Zoning Administrator. The motion passed on the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Berwaid, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Rosenbaum, Seman Noes: Pearson Pre-Zcnira IThT Pr er sammairleock � East la ve MOTION: Mayor Comstock introduced the following ordinance and moved, seconded by Pearson, its adoption: ORDINANCE NO. 2705 ENTITLED "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING SECTION 18 08.O30 OW THE PAW ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE TO ESTABLISH A ZONE FOR CERTAIN PROPERTY GENERALLY RNA AS THE INTER- NATIONAL TELEPHONE AND TELEGRAPH CORPORATION PRO?ER.TT IN THE VICINITY OF TIE 2600 BLOCK OF EAST BAYS' 0RE Rte} AND TO ESTABLISH A FIRE ME THEREFOR, BOTH EFFECTIVE UPON ANNEXATION OF SAID PROPERTY TO THE CITY OF PALO ALTO" Councilman Beahrs stated that be wanted his vote recorded in opposition to the ordinance because, in his opinion, TT4T did not have a hearing. The ordinance was adopted on the fofloving vote: Ayes: Berweld, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Swain Noes: Beahrs 247 3/30/73 Reclassifica onti of Pro ert c n ty o Coyote MOTION: Mayor Comstock introduced the following ordinance and moved, seconded by Henderson, its adoption: ORDINANCE NO. 2706 ENTITLED "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING SECTION 18.08.030 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE TO CHANGE THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY IN THE ?ICINITY OF COYOTE HILL, BOUNDED BY ARASTRADERO ROAD, DEER CREEK ROAD, LEER CREEK GULCH, FOOTHILL EXPRESSWAY AND HILLVIEW AVENUE, FROM L -M-5 TO L -M -5-D AND A -C -D" The ordinance was adopted on the following vote: Ayes: Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Semati Noes: Beahrs, Berwald Redesi of Landsca in Plan--- Fre iTnal Water t o tip ontr•o Plant (Mt :637: 3) MOTION: Mayor Comstock introduced the following ordinance and r.,y.ed, seconded by Seman, its adoption: ORDINANCE NO. 2707 ENTITLED "ORDINANCE OF Try COUNCIL OF TEE CIFY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1972-73 TO APPRO- PRIATE UP TO $4,000 FOR REDESIGN OF mE LANDSCAPIrG PLAN FOR THE REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL PLANT" The ordinance was adopted on thct following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Seman Noes: Berwald See P. 303 2 4 8 3/329!73 Warrants for Traffic Control Devices ar Sc oo.la x:.15: MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson introduced the following resolution and moved, seconded by Henderson, its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 4721 ENTITLED "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO ADOPTING THE DOCUMENT TITLED 'POLICIES AND WARRANTS FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES NEAR SCHOOLS" Councilman Beahrs comientecitae waa glad to see this, but he asked for reas- surance from the staff that there was sufficient flexibility in this, and expressed concern that there was no requirement for protest or collabora- tion with the FUC and others who are involved with the dangerous SP right- of-way which runs through the city and which r has caused tragedy in the past due to the failure of these agencies to perform. Traffic Engineer Ted Noguchi said the fundamental intent of this resolu- tion is to relax the rules for school conditions. He said they certainly recognize the kind of situation to which Councilman Beahrs referred. The resolution was adopted on a unanimous vote. MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson introduced the following ordinance and moved, seconder. by Comstock, its approval for first reading: "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING SECTION (b) OF SECTION 10.12.040 AND SUBSECTION (a) OF SECTION 10.36.070 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE TO INCLUDE ADOPTED POLICIES AND WARRANTS FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES" (second reading 4/9/73) The ordinance was approved for first reading on a unanimous vote. Arastradero Road ITprovements (CMR:646:3) MOTION: Vice Mayor Norton moved, seconded by Semen, that staff return to Council with a general informational report within two to four weeks. City Manager Sipel commented that more time would be required to complete the report. He said he did not believe that any Council action will be required based on contents of the report. However, Council night wish to discuss it. Mayor Comstock stated that this subject would be left in the category of an informational report of the City Manager to be submitted to Council. The motion passed on a unanimous vote. Desianat.ion of SASSA as Plannin A enc for San Frailcisc o flay Area CHR:639: 3 MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson introduced the following resolution and moved, seconded by Beahrs, its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 4722 ENTITLED "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF Thy CITY OF PALO ALTO URGING DESIGNATION OF THE BAY AREA SEWAGE SERVICES AGENCY AS THE AREAWIDE PLANNING AGENCY FOR THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA" The resolution was adopted on a unanimous vote. Section 4.14.160 of PAMC--Indeceiat Motion Pictures MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson Introduced the following ordinance and moved, seconded by Henderson, its approval for first reading: "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO DELETING SECTION 4.14.160 AND AMENDING SECTION 5.08.290 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE" (second reading 4/9/73) Councilman Beahrs asked what defenses the public has available to it in this situation. If you don't like a pornographic exhibition in a local movie house, can you sue for abatement of a; public nuisance? City Attorney Stone responded that you either don't pay in the first place or demand a refund. If the District Attorney believes the eatable tier' to be obscene, it is within his jurisdiction. Councilman. Beahrs asked does California law regarding unredeeming virtue, apply, or does it go to the Supreme Court of the United States? City Attorney Stone said such utters usually go to the Supreme Court to find out if there is any redeeming social value. 249 3/20/73 The ordinance was approved for first reading on the following vote: Ayes: Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Semen Noes: Beahrs, Berwald Arastradero Road I rovements ...�....�.w....t....�... - - MOTION: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Comstock, that hie request for information from staff on Arastradero Road improvements be included in the information report from staff which is to be returned to Council in two to four weeks. The motion passed on a unanimous vote. Gun Control See Page 282 Councilwoman Pearson noted that the Policy and Procedures Committee ommendation was to file the City Attorney's report wsthout action. rec-- MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Beahrs, that the City Attorney's report dated February 22, 1973, regarding gun control be filed. -Joeeph O. Cooney, 353 Waverley Street, Menlo Park, addressed Council on the constitutional right of people to hear arrrs. The motion passed on a unanimous vote. Human Relations Commission Councilwoman Pearson, chairman of the Policy and Procedures Committee, repotted that the committee had reviewed Chapter 2.22 of the Palo Alto Municipal Code —Human Relations Commission -and recommends that no changes be made. No action was taken. Cit Mana er Authoriz toed rocess Council Mai Councilwoman Pearson, chairman of the Policy and Procedures Committee, stated that the committee considered the matter of Section 2.04.220 of the Palo Alto Municipal Code which authorizes the City Manager to process Council mail. The consideration diverted into a discussion of whether or not the committee members liked the way the mail was being processed. The matter is being returned to Council without a recommendation from the Policy and Procedures Committee because of a tie vote. MOTION; Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Seman, that the last sentence in Section 2.04.220 be changed to read that any written communi- cation addressed to the City Council shall be reproduced and distributed in the same manner as the City Council agenda and supporting materials. Mayor Comstock read a letter which had been received fromm the League of Women Voters which recommended that the present practice should be spelled out in the Code to ensure that it is continued in the future and recog--- sizing that not all mail is suitable for the public packet, they hoped that the section could be worded to give the City Manager some discretion in distributing mail to the Council. 2 5 0 3/26/73 Councilman Berwald commented that he thought the reason the committee could not come to a majority agreement was that the City Manager has the use of some discretion now, and he thought it would be difficult to reword the section and would like to see it remain as it is. Councilman Rosenbaum proposed a substitute motion which he thought would accomplish what Council wanted and still leave s'eaff some discretion. SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Councilman Rosenbaum moved, seconded by Beahrs, that mail addressed to the entire Council shall be distributed in the public packets except in those cases where staff feels the communication should be restricted to the Council. The Council shall be informed when a letter is not placed in the public packet. Councilman Clark thought this motion got Council back into the thing that was of concern way back that really did allow the City Manager a good deal of leeway, more -than most people wanted. The problem with changing the wording at all is that ateff then has no leeway and has to conform at all times by sending it around, He appealed to Council to leave the wording and procedure as it is, because be thought it was working very well. Until such time as there is a real reason to have a change, leave it as it is with the understanding that all mail is distributed, but leaving it possible for the City Manager's staff, when appropriate, to keep the hate mail to themselves. He said that Councilman Rosenhaura's motion makes the juCgmen- taldecision very difficult. Councilman Beahrs stated that no nail should go out generally unless it is directed by a councilman or councilwoman or the writer of the letter. Even if the writer of the letter requested distribution, he said he night have some reservation as to whether or not it was appropriate. Councilwoman Seraan spoke against Councilman Rosenbaurn's motion and in favor of Councilwoman Pearson's motion. A year's test has proved that the current procedure is working very well. Councilwoman Pearson's motion does not take out of the Municipal Code the fact that the City Manager is authorized to open the mail. What it does is put in the Code what Council ha,r done this year which has been successful and has included screening out hate mail from the public packet:.. Councilman Clark commented that at the committee meeting, Assistant City Manager Charles Walker pointed out that if Council changed the wording, staff could not be selective as it has been, but would be required to semi out everything in the public packet. He said the smooth -working procedures they have had this year might not be so smooth, because staff would not have any latitutde. Assistant City Manager Walker said that the word they used at the coal-- mittee meeting was "censorship." if Council asked staff to copy all mail addressed to Council, correspondence addressed from the citizens would be automatically copied and sent to Council and included in the public and press packets. Councilman Clark noted that since the committee meeting, there has been a good example of something of a "confidential" letter Counc.il received which is being handled at the staff level. Such correspondence could not be handled in that manner it Council -had the requirement that everything went public. Councilwoman Pearson stated that it puzzhd her why Council wanted to protect the public from the hate mail and the letters with the dirty words in them. She thought the public should see all the mail Council receives. Further, the letter Councilman Clark referred to is an example of a letter 251 3/26/73 that o -r;t astray because staff used discretion in deciding Council should not ha c a copy. As a ret.ult, at the Finance and Public Works Committee meeting something was not fully discussed. People did not get the privi- lege of talking about it. It was a letter directed to the City Council, and Council should have had a copy of it. They would have known someone wa;. protesting something Council, staff, and the Finance and Public Works Committee were about to do. She felt what had been done in the past year had been good except she did not see any reason to protect the public from the hate mail. The substitute motion failed on the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Norton, Rosenbaum Noes: Berwald, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Pearson, Seman The motion passed on the following vote: Ayes: Comstock, Henderson, Pearson, Norton, Seman Noes: Beahrs, Derwald, Clark, Rosenbaum 4propri ation for ABAG Solid Waste Std_ (fit: 640: 3) Councilwoman Pearson stated that she had been the Council, representative attending SPUR/ABAG Solid Waste Committee meetings for several months as a non -voting member. She said she would like Palo Alto to be a voting nenber because it is a good project. The federal government has now said that solid waste is a local responsibility. Palo Alto has a project of its own which is being worked on and is going to cost millions of dollars. She thought it was Important that the city remain informed of what is going on in this regional effort. She urged Council to authori::e expendi- ture of the $3,000 so that Palo Alto could be a voting member. MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson introduced the following ordinance and moped, seconded by Seman, its adoption: ORDINANCE NO. 2708 ENTITLED "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING TIE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1972-73 TO APPRO- PRIATE UP TO $.3,000 FOR FUNDING A PRELU4INARY, FEASIBILITY STUDY OF A PLAN FOR SOLID WASTE DISPOSAL" Fred Martin, 375 San Mateo Drive, Menlo Park, encouraged Council to approve the membership cost. Joyce Leonard, 4107 Briarwood Way, representing the Palo Alto Branch of the AAUW, urged granting of the $3,000. Mayor Comstock noted that Council i,ad received a letter from the League of Women Voters supporting this action. Vice Mayor° Norton asked what would Yapper if Council approver the $3,000 and half .die cities do not par :icipate a ld the membership fee be refunded in the caan of an impasse. Assistant City Manager Warren Deverel said he a4.derstood that if enough funds are not raised for the project the project will not he continued. U,owever, SPUR/ABAG has already received substantial sums ci money from the Environmental Protection Agency, and he understood that they were close to quota. The ordinance was adopted on a unanimous vote. 2 5 2 3/26/73 Count= Human Relations Commission Appointments (CMR:642:3) Councilwoman Pearson pointed out that a letter had been received from Mr. Victor Calvo explaining the appointments and no further action is needed. No action was taken by Council. Human Relations Commission Request For -Full -Tim Staff Member (cMR:b42:3) Councilwoman Pearson noted that this matter is by the Commission. No action was taken by Council. vest for Report Re Possible Use Hof Subpoena Power "�� still Councilwoman Pearson said that tie City Attorney's prepare a report to the Human Relations Commission the subpoena powers the City Council has and their Relations Commission. She said that this question and the }RC never :gas anything for reference. She the report to c Mme to the Council and the HRC also. under consideration office was going to to address itself to relation to the Human comes up periodically, said she would like MOTION Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Henderson, that Council direct the City Attorney to prepare a report regarding the possible use of subpoena power. Councilman Berwald said he strongly opposed the motion. On April 27, 1972 :Mss ;orek, Assistant City Attorney, gave a report to the Human Relations Commission on subpoena power, He made a comment at that time and still feels the same way. He quoted from the minutes of that meeting, his com- ment and Commiaaioner Hom's count, to the effect that Council had never used its subpoena power, and he hoped it never would --that Council should never force a person to come before the legislative body because human relations are based on mutual trust. He said he thought the HRC is the type of commission that the moment it is given e.'t;ourt power, it will attempt to use it. It attempted to use it early in 1967, and he said it was a proceeding that did not follow any restraints that court proceedings follow. He said he would hope that if the HRC feels strongly about this, that they would formally petition Council.. He thought they should hake the presentation after hearing from the City Attorney's office. Councilwoman Semen asked City Attorney Stone if there were a written re- port on this subject. City Attorney Stone responded that they have some material on it, but a report that the Attorney's office would consider to be adequate would have to be comprehensive. He said there are many procedures that should be followed along with the use of the subpoena power if that use is autho- rized. . He said this would be no small report, and his office would have to rusk Council whtt priority it has. Councilwoman Semen *aid she would vote to support asking for the report. She thought the subject had come up so many times that it would be worth- while to get the City Attorney's report. She said she leans in the direc- tion that Council probably should not delegate the subpoena power, and she urged that it be given a high priority by the Attorney's office.. • See Page Z82 2 5.3 3/26/73 Councilwoman Pearson pointed out that she was not asking for subpoena power for the Council or the Human Relations Commission. She wanted in- formation. The motion passed on the following vote: Ayes: Comstock, Henderson, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Semen Noes: Beahrs, Berwald, Clark, Norton Webster Site: Property MFume Status Report cMR: : Mayor Comstock noted that Council had received a report from Bernard L. Pawloski, Director of Inspectional Services, with some recommendations. The Council had also received a report from the Child Care Task Force and a letter regarding the property at 920 Middlefield Road and its possible use as a child care site. Councilwoman Pearson commented that she agreed with some of the report and took issue with other parts. She agreed that 920 Middlefield Road be considered far a child care building. She said she took issue with the architect's house being converted back into a home, and a tenant who is in one of the houses that is going to be demolished be moved into that house. She died not think it was Council's policy that this tenant, who happens to be a bachelor, be moved into a whole house after it has been renovated. She would expect a family to move into it. She would be will- ing to allow him to remain in the house and not demolish it until the whole project for that site is determined and Council decides what kind of project will be there. She also took issue with demolishing the house at 935 Webster. If a contract is let out and the building brought back to housing code, it would be expensive, but the neighbors have said that they would renovate the house. She would be wi11ir.z to birj that. She said she realized there is extensive termite damage, toot her experience with termite inspectors is that they tend to report the most expensive, if they can get away with it. She thought a structural engineer should determine if the house is ready to fall down. If Council does that, they will have houses available for people for three years or more. MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Semen, that the house at - 920 Middlefield be considered as a child care center. Virginia Deba, 3145 Flowers Lane, said she agreed that tha long-range goals for this property should be those the Council has outl'.ned. She said the report of the Child Care Truk Force should be ready for the April 9 Council meeting and will contain the reasons why they are anxious to have Council look at 920 Middlefield as a possible site for a child care center. They are asking Council to wait on this and not to make a determination until Council sees their report, which asks for interim use of the site. Councilmau Beahrs asked if the report would contain alternatives matched against this type of *situation. Mrs. Debs said it would. The alternatLr . 'ropetties were not considered as nice for children as 920 Middlefield, biat the Task Force does have another site in mind that would be adaptable. 2 4 3/26/73 Vice Mayor Norton asked if they were asking for interim use as a child care facility without jeopardy to Council's deciding later that they have to move out. Mrs. Debs said that the Child Care Task Force sees this as a center for toddlers where as much yard area requiring a heavy investment would not be needed. Vice Mayor Norton aaked staff what effect such interim use would have on the planning for the whole block. He said he did not want someone to invest in an equity where it would interfere with the unfettered planning. Planning Director Knox responded that if it is clearly temporary and clearly understood that the "sweat equity" is temporary, it should not encumber the long-range planning. There is always the possibility that after some sweat and capital expenditure have been put into a building, people might want to save it and want the city to change its long --term plans. Vice Mayor Norton said that was his concern, and he was probably going to disfavor most of these motions on that account. He said he did not want to subtly move the city into a position where choices are fewer. Mayor Comstock urged vice Mayor Norton to reconsider. He said that the Planning Commission and staff are working with the thought that the long- range plan will not be undermined by these actions. They have told the people livlr€ there what the plans are. They know the nature of the bar- gain. Ccunci lmml Berwaid indicated he would like to know what other motions are to be proposed. Councilwoman Pearson indicated that they would be to the effect that the house at 935 Webster have a "sweat equity" and be renovated, and a struc- tural engineer determine which members are unsafe; the person who is liv- ing in 652 Channing bR allowed to stay there until it is determined when it should be demolished with respect to the total project, and she did not think that a bachelor should be placed in a whole house. The motion passed on the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Semen Noes: None Abstain: Berwald, Norton MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Henderson, that first preference be given to a family at 928 Middlefield Road. Councilman Beahrs asked about the period of tie. City Manager Sipel said that his feeling would be that the rental terns. would be the same *a the city has on all the other homes —month to month. He said he understood what Council was trying to do end he didn't disagree with it, but his concern was with the specificity of the motion. Never before has Council specified what kinds of people they want to have in the homes that the city owns. Talking about a family, what do you men? A htaband and wife? A husband and wife with 2 children? Black? White? `fellow? That was his concern. He felt that getting too specific about the kind of people the city wants to accommodate causes problems. He said he was not sure that staff would want to relocate this particular individual to this particular house. That is just one possibility. He would be concerned about how specific Council gets it these matters. Councilman Beahrs said very definitely he would consider a legal family to be persons with mutuality of obligation at law. Councilwoman Semen asked if page 5, number 4., did not meet the qualifica- tions that Councilwoman Pearson was speaking of. Councilwoman Pearson said that she was not sure. The rumor was rampant that the city was going to relocate this person, and she wanted to make it policy not to relocate people who can have other kinds of houPing, City Manager Sipel asked if it were her polic; not to rent to single people. Councilwoman Pearson responded not huge houses like that one. City Manager Sipel asked what is considered a huge house. He said he knows of another case where the city does have a single person in one of its houses. Councilwoman Pearson asked if Council adopted 14, would Mr. Sfpei's incli- nation be to find someone who was not necessarily this particular individ- ual whom Council knows ''cult' not meet b. at least. City Manager Sipel responded that if Council passed 04, the staff would try for those qualifications. :MOTION WITirRAWN: Councilwoman Person withdrew her motion. MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson moved, second: d by Henderson, that rental applicants meet the following qualifications: a. applicant and/or member of the family live and/or work in Palo Alto; b. maximum income limits be established in conformt-ince with the re- quirements for Section 236 Multiple Rental Units. It is intended that applicants meeting the above qualifications be interviewed by a committee consisting of Webster property tenants with recommendations being made to the city staff. Councilman Berwald asked for clarification. If the last paragraph is part of 14, he would like to understand if this also wasn't a new policy to allow neighbors to approve who moves' into the neighborhood. City Manager Sipel responded that this i.s a departure from present policy. A close reading would show what staff.- is suggesting is that neighbors give staff their ideas on these people, rather than approval or selection. It is particularly important with respect to the "sweat equity" program in trying to develop community feeling. Staff is not giving up any final authority with respect to who will be moving into a house. Councilman Berwald found that objectionable. He said he would find it en invasion of his privacy if, in order to rent a home, he had to go before a committee on inspection. He said he would vote against this action with that in mind. 2 5 6 3/26/73 The motion failed on the following vote: Ayes: Comstock, Henderson, Pearson, Semen Noes: Beahrs, Berwald, Clark, Norton, Rosenbaum MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Henderson, that the house at 920 Mid.°lefield Road should be converted to residential use, with the understanding that the architect now occupying the building has agreed to furnish the labor and materials to accomplish the conversion; that avail- able funds from Housing Land Bank I be used for upgrading the house by installing a new electric service, water heater, additional heating, miscellaneous piping and wiring at a cost not to exceed $700; and further, that the architect be given suitable time to relocate, but that he vacate the premises by July 1, 1973. Councilman Berwald expressed the feeling that Council was nitpicking with this report. He asked if a substitute motion might be made to approve the balance of the report of the City Manager, with the exception of the final paragraph. Mayor Comstock responded that he felt sure he would have a request to divide. The motion passed on the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Sean Noes: Norton Abstain: Befwald MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson moved, duly seconded, that the property at 935 Webster Street be rehabilitated through a combination of "sweat equity" and a structural engineer assisting in determining which structural members are weak, Mr. Pawloski commented about the house at 935 Webster. He said their estimate to bring the house up to housing code standards !s $10,000 in addition to the estimated $8,200 to $8,500 for termite damage, making a total of at least $18,000. In "sweat equity" there is probably a materials cost of $7,000-$8,000. It would be a real problem to get people who could wake such a labor commitment to rehabilitate for a two-year period. Councilwoman Semen asked tow much a structural engineer would cost in addi- tion. Mr. Pavloeki estimated from $500 to $1,000. Councilwoman Semen spoke againat the motion. Councilman Berwald said he thought it was timely to consent on the whole project. Architecturally there is not a house on the while block which is worth saving permaxently, The city is now in a position where people are living there and their heeds have to be met, but he thought it was perhaps appropriate or necessary to say he really found this whole procedure on the Webster house to be disappointing. If the.city had moved diligently when it bought the property, this place would now be filled with low- to moderate- income housing. The city has to take care of most of the people who are in the hones, and he thought the report was well done and backed up by engineering facts, and he thought it would be terrible if Council ignored that. 2 5 7 3/26/73 Councilwoman Semen responded that no way could there have been low- to moderate -income housing approved, let alone built, in the time limit. Councilwoman Pearson stated that a termite inspector is in no way an engineer. He makes his determination of whether or not these things should be replaced. He cannot say whether or not a piece of wood has been destroyed. A structural engineer would be more honest. She felt that the house should be preserved. See Page 282 The motion failed on the following vote: Ayes: Comstock, Henderson, Pearson Noes: Beahrs, Berwald, Clark, Rosenbaum, Semen Abstain: Norton MOTION: Councilman Beahra moved, seconded by Berwald, that the house at 93.E Webster Street be demolished. Councilwoman Pearson asked if staff had another building in mind for another structure they are going to build. Wasn't there such a law? City Manager Sipel responded that there is a law on the books, but it does not apply to the City of Palo Alto. Councilman Clark commented that if a houses is condemned as being unfit, one does not have to hav:: a replacement unit. City Manager Sipel agreed that those findings could be rude on this partic- ular house. The motion passed on the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Berwald, Clark, Rosenbaum, Semen Noes: Comstock, Henderson, Pearson Abstain: Norton MOTION: Councilman Rosenbaum moved, seconded by Clark, that applicants meet the following qualifications: a. applicant and/or member of the family live and/or work in Palo Alto; b. maximum income limits be established in conformance with the re- quirements for Section 236 Multiple Mental Units. The motion passed on a unanimous vote. Ra ort. on. Bids : Park rov (CMRR:629:3) MOTION: Mayor Comstock moved, seconded by Pearson, that thee projects be shown to have no environmental impact. The motion passed on a unenimoui vote. MOTION: Mayor Comstock moved, seconded by Pearson, that the Mayor be authorized to execute contracts with the following low bidders: 1) Palo Alto Landscaping Company, Inc. for the amount of $37,961 for the Hoover 258 3/26/73 Park Addition --Phase II, including all elternatea; 2) Palo Alto Land- scaping Company, Inc. for the amount of $48,402 for the Renovation of Alexander Peers Park, which consists of the basic bid items and Alternate No. 1; 3) Design Dynamics Corporation for the amount of $10,987 for the Irrigation Improvements. The motion was approved on a unanimous vote. Planning -Programming -Budgeting System‘l= (CMMR:632:3) Councilman Henderson stated that last week he was prepared to ask a num- ber of questions about this matter and doubted that he could have supported the request. Since then he has had a conversation with the City Manager. He said he is still not totally comfortable about HUD giving money for purposes like this while placing a moratorium on housing programs. He was also concerned about the city's hiring two people for a year or so and then what happens to them after that. Mr. Sipel has convinced him of the worth of attempting this program. These funds are available for this purpose; therefore, he would support it. MOTION: Councilman Henderson introduced the following resolution and moved, seconded by Beahrs, Its adoption: RESOLUTION NO. 4723 ENTITLED "RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AUTHORIZING TEE FILING OF AN APPLICATION FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING GRANT FOR Ti-IE DEVELOPMENT 01, A SERV1LCE MANAGE- MENT SYSTEM" The resolution was adopted on the following vote: Ayes: Beahrs, Berwald, Clark, Comstock, Henderson, Norton, Rosenbaum; Seman Foes: Pearson State Arts Corwj1esion Funding (SE -121) MOTION: Mayor.Comstock moved, seconded by Pearson, that Council support SB-121 (State Arts Commission Funding) . The motion passed on a unanimous vote, ran Street Traffic Problem Councilwoman Pearson indicated that she had received a letter from resi- dents on Byron Street regarding the use of Byron Street as an alternative commute traffic route to Middlefield Road. She referred to her memorandum to Council dated March 15 an this subject. MOTION: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Henderson, that staff be directed to give the street immediate relief from tae traffic through sosee type of traffic barrier, and that the staff proceed to determine the best long-range solution to this problem. Councilman Rosenbaum asked what staff would contemplate doing in response to this motion. 2)5 9 3/26/73 Assistant City Manager Charles Walker replied that the first objective would be to find out what type of traffic barrier. would be most appropri- ate for the location, and what would be legal outside of Council's passing a resolution to close the street. Assuming it was legally possible, staff would put in appropriate traffic barriers and then begin making a st-idy. They would prefer that the street not be closed, but instead staff be asked to make a study of the impact of closing the street. One of the requests of the _citizens is to eliminate Byron as a one-way street. The preliminary eatimate is that the request has merit. Certain changes would have to be made relative to the parking. Before Council orders a street closed with a barrier, staff prefers to be given an opportunity to prepare a study of the impact on other streets in the area. Councilwoman Pearson asked if the staff were to do the traffic study, what kind of barriers could be used. Mr. Walker responded that they would have to be the sandbag type. Councilwoman Pearson asked what the difference is. Mr. Walker responded that one is more practical than the other as far as temporary solutions are concerned. SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Councilmen Rosenbaum moved, seconded by Clark, that staff report back on means of alleviating severe traffic problems on Byron Street. The substitute notion passed on a unanimous vote. Purchase of Two Vacant Parcels Ad acent to '31 Scott Street .or Pu is urpases airegraisranivertimmemissauswa Councilman Henderson stated that, prior to last week's meeting, he con- tacted Planning Commission Chairman Mary Gordon, who stated that this matter could probably be taken up by the Planning Commission at the April 4 meting. With the understanding that staff wil]. contact Mr. Reller about the city's interest so that pore development i!osts are not incurred in the interim, Councilman Henderson made the following motion. MOTION: Councilman Henderson moved, seconded by Seman, that Council refer to the Planning Commission the subject of purchasing for public purposes the two vacant parcels adjacent to 931 Scott Street. Rill Clebsch, 935 Scott Street, presented a petition from residents and. property owners of the area urging the city to purchase these two lots. Sara Dubik, 960 Waverley, urged Council to buy the Iets for a park. Jan Lamarck, 936 Scott Street, supported the motion, especially to pro- vide a park for the convalescent hospital patients. Jeffrey Youdel n, 720 Waverley, urged Council to buy the lots. Bill Clebsch, 935 Scott Street, addressed Council again, stating that he hoped the basic issue would not get overlooked: He asked Council not to was aside the park as being some plan of Venceremos or something that has to do with political ideology in Palo Alto. He said gradually, s11 of the R-4 laud will be developed into apartments and condominiums, but there ust be neighborhood parks to service ttose people. Councilwoman Semen stated that the motion before Council was referral to the Planning Commission, and she hoped that her colleagues would support 260 3/26/73 it. She referred t.o Vice Mayor Norton's comments earlier that he did not want the city to be put in the position where alternatives were fewer. She said this was a case in point. 1 1 Councilman Clark said that regarding referral to the Planning Commission he trusted that this was an overall referral to have the subject of mini. - parks reviewed for that area and recommend to Council the best place for mini -parks for the area. He said he could not vote for it otherwise. He said to pick one lot just because it is empty does not make much sense. He stated that the city hae a very great need for housing in the range that can be afforded by most people who work in this town. In terms of rough tax figures, in placing a park at this site we are talking in tern* of something between $7,500 and $9,000 per year in tax loss to the schools and the city. He thought that just because those lots are there did not mean that they were the best spot for the park, He said if it is under- stood that the referral to the Planning Commission is for the purpose of having them say that we believe a park is necessary --get one where you can, he would favor it. He said he did not think the lots on Scott Street were a suitable spot for a mini -park. He thought a neighborhood park should be located further toward Embarcadero--more in the center of that quadrant. Vice Mayor Norton commented that he made his statement at the Finance and Public Works Committee t eeti.ng but would review his, reasons for not sup- porting a par at this particular site. The subject has been before the Finance and Public Works Committee and the Council for three years in the sense of appropriating money for a park in the area south of Addison Ave- nue. He has understood that the ideal site would be three or four blocks south of this particular site in the R-1 zone. He said he had never heard anything other than that the park should be in the R-1 zone, centrally located for the entire area. If this particular site had any intrinsic value as a park site, staff or one member of the Council would have brought it to Council before this. He said if we move two lots down into the R-2 zone, the city could acquire more land for the same value. If it moved three or four blocks down into the R-1 zone, where the park was originally planned, the city could get more land for the same money. R-4 prices are not the way to go from a financial and planning point of view, when you could do better. Also, the way in which the question came to Council des hire question what the motives are. One motive is to block the building of the condominium. The condominium will add 12 new moderate - income units, 21 feet high, which is below the height limits in an R-1 zone. If Council approves the park proposal, it will lose those 12 units. There are few arguments for a park at this precise location. Undoubtedly, a larger, better site could be found for less money. Councilman `3erwa1d agreed with Vice Mayor Norton and said he was interested in having a park in this area but could not support it at that particular location, Kern Knopf, 1400 Javerley, asked Council to buy the land now and convert it later if the city found something more suitable. Brooke Kantor, 951 Bryant, staff member of MCA, supported the park. City Manager Sipel noted that Councilman Clark had raised a question as to the intent of the referral motion. He said he would like it clarified as to what is intended since the City Manager's office will be•praparing material for the Planning Commission should it pass. Councilman Henderson said he could not say how the Commission would respond. He felt that the information the City Manager gave.to the F&PW Committee should be passed on, because it shows what staff saw as presently avail- able land. He thought the Planning Commission should look at the two - 261 3/26/73 Scott Street lots in relation to the other possibilities, and also the proposed Downtown South Park, which he doubted would ever come about. City Manager Sipel stated he understood that the referral would be viewed as a fairly limited assignment, as opposed to a full-blown study of mini - parks in the downtown area south of University. Councilman Henderson said he thought that what showed on the map is the area available now for mini -parka in the area under consideration, and that the Planning Commission would compare it with those other pieces. The motion passed on the following vote: Ayes: Comstock, Henderson, Pearson, Rosenbaum, Seman Noes: Beahrs, Berwald, Clark Norton Oral Communications No one addressed Council under Oral Communications. Adjournment The meeting adjourned at 12:35 a.m. APPROVED: Clerk c 262 3/26/73 Mayor