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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10281975Regular Meeting October 28, 1975 ITEK PAGE Minutes of September 22, 1975 and September 29, 1975 3 2 2 Oral Communications 3 2 2 Consent Calendar 3 2 4 El. Camino Park: Amendment to Park Dedication Ordinance 3 2 4 Public Rearing: Draft Environmental impact Report For Willow Road Improvement Project 3 2 5 Finance and Public Works Committee Recommends Re Project Mobility 3 3 8 Recommendation of Planning Commission re Allowing Senior Gay Care Centers in R-1 and R-DUP Zones Palo Alto Information and Referral Services: Contract Adjournment 321 10%28/1$ . 346 348 350 a 1 October 28, 1975 The City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on this date at 7:50 p.m, in a regular meeting with Mayor Norton presiding. Present: Berwale, Carey, Clay, Comstock, Eyerly, Norton Sher, Witherspoon Absent: Baehr' MINU =S or SEPTEMBER 22. 1975 Vice Mayor Clay referred to the bottom line of page 219 and requested thet the the words "end the caliber of the people" be deleted. In their place should be the wording "of the arganizetion by the people it serves". Councilman Sher asked that the words "school buses" in the thirteenth line on page 221 be corrected to "bus pools". Secondly, he noted thee the word "not" should have been inserted between "were" and "inconsistent" in the first line of the aeeond paragraph from the bottom of page 221. The minutes were approved as corrected. MINUTES UP SEPTEMBlB 2 The mieute:s of September 29, 1975 were approved as submitted. ORAL COMM VICATIONS 1. Jean Kraft, 3567 El C.salino Real, made the following statement to Council: "The City of Palo Alto takes a good deal of pride, end rightly so, in its image of cr beautiful and progressive city. We have prestigious Stanford thtivereity, fine public schools, and a city of lovely homes, lovely shops, and a forward thinking populace. What, then, is the revisor: for a toms image in the making? Ars you ewers Pilo Alto is becoming the massage parlor tenter of the peninsula? No other city on the peninsula has so many. Sunnyvale has eight massage parlors, Mountain View has two, Redwood City has five, and San Mateo has eight. Paco Alto hee seventeen fully licensed "so -calf" massage parlors with the majority located in one area - South Palo Alto. I talked to the Chief of Police in Mountain Vier regarding the absence of massage parlors :n his community. He said, - "W` usually find a basis for the denial of a license, and it is upheld by the City Cecil". The Assistant City Attorney to Sunnyvale told as they had declared a six months' moratorium in March of 1975 on any new rasaaa►ge parlors. This moratoria= 3 2.2 10/28/75 was extended for a year in September of 1975. One of the Sergeants in the Police Department of Redwood City informed me that they usually find a basis for denial of a license. We have been in business in Pelo Alto for twelve years and `lave been located on El Camino in South Pali/ Alto for ten years. We are being surrounded as if by a fungus. Within two blocks of our store, there are seven massage parlors. Did you know that the school bus stops every afternoon in front of a five-foot high sign which says, "Male Strippers"? Several times this past summer, we were treated to the vision of nude girls lying on the sidewalk, ten feet from El Camino, on Margarite. They said they were sunbathing. A drunk bust closed that place for a few weeks, and then it opened bigger and better than ever. There are decent hard- working people who live in the area just off El Camino; and they, too, deplore the constant visibility and hazard of living near such a vice scene. On the one hand, the City of Palo Alto has literally been bombarding all of the merchants le this area with ultimatums regarding the sire of the signs on the stores. The paper oigne in the windows must be smaller. Everything not according to the new regulations must come down, etc.. etc., etc. But the vice scene at the so-called massage parlors runs unabated. Row is it that Palo Alto has so many of these establishments in the first place? It has occurred to several of us that this sort of thing would not have gotten so out of hand unless (and it is a large unlese) there are people in the city gown -meet who favor the growth of such places. How else could the latest addition to this massage scene not even bother to get a permit or a license before inetelling all the plumbing, furniture, and electric signs outside advertising the massage parlor unless they were really sure there vo;ald be no trouble? 1 brought with me the signatures of almost every merchant in the thirty-five, thirty-rsiz, and thirty-seven hundred blocks on El Camino Real in South Palo Alto. Moot of tbsss Businesses have been in the same location on the average of tan to sixteen years. Every person I talked to wants to see a change for the better. They want a proper, legitimate business climate to prevail and not a vice strip. We ask the Council to put some teeth into the existing Massage Parlor Ordinance and to start revoking some of the licenses, as it is obvious to one and all that these establishment* are not whet they purport to be." 9 Councilman Eerweld asked that staff get in touch with the spsaknr *ad respond to her concerns. He also thought some members of Council might went to speck to her personally. 323 10/3l►/73 City Manager George Sipel responded that he would be happy to do that, and he would provide some material in the packet thin week about the subject. 2. Mary Beth Washington, 936 Middlefield Road, reported that the problem about her eviction was still unresolved. It was her hope that the home from which she had been evicted would be use6 as an arts center for children, 3. Gerry McQueen, 275 Ventura Avenue, stated that ehe was very pleased about the comments made by Me. Kraft regarding massage parlors. Ms. McQueen said - the Committee Association of Neighborhoods had hoped to wait to talk about this to City Attorney Robert K. Booth, who would be speaking to that group at it* Nove.bsr 6th meeting. Compleinta had been mede to the Police Department, and the group wanted to know why the two massage parlors in the new building were now open. She understood that those people do not have a license to operate, but they are there; and the Police Department had turned the matter over to the City Attorney. Mss, McQueen said no one wanted to be unsympathetic, and everyone appreciated the fact that people who are in business, want to do business. Massage parlors were not businesses, and Ms. McQueen commented that she would hesitate to say whet she thought they were. Action needed to be taken, and CAN's neat step would be to cone to Council to ask for a atrong ordinance to govern aaang aege parlors. Mayor Merton asked if Council were ready to vote on the Consent Calendar. Councilman Bysrly req;aaeted that Item 1 be removed from the Consent Wender. Mayor Norton stated that this item, having to do with permitting day care centers in R-1 and R-DUP sone0, would become Item 3-A on the regular agenda. Councilman Reroaald requested that Item 3 be removed from the Consent calendar. Mayor Morton stated that this item, &maing with a study of the city- wide stop •tp system, would become Item 0-A on the regular agenda. Mayor Norton removed Item 2 from the Consent Calendar for the purpose of c+ tinuence. i MOTION: Mayor Norton moved, see n4ed by Comstock, that this items be continued to the nest regularly scheduled meeting. rae motion to continue passed o a unanimous vote. 324 10/29/75 PUBLIC HEARING: DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT CMR:529:5) Mayor Norton stated that Council had before it the recommendation of the Planning Commission, five in favor and two absent, to the effect that the Commission reviewed the Draft Environmental Impact Report on the Willow Road Improvement Project and has evaluated the comments of both staff and consultants who have reviewed the Draft EIR. The Commission recommends to the City Ccuncil that the Draft EIR, as modified by comments made at the Planning Commission meeting of October 8, 1975, contains all the elements necessary to the making of a decision on the Willow Road Improvement Project; and the Commission recommends that Council, considering these xaodifyiug remarks, find the Draft EIR adequate. Councilman Sher stated that he had not participated in earlier discussions on this subject because he is au employee of Stanford University, and the University figures in this project in a significant way. if the prcject is approved, land will be taken away from Stanford University; and the University would be in the Assessment District. He said he would not participate in the discussion or the voting on this agenda item and also on agenda item twelve, which relates to Willow Road, Mayor Norton explained rust the purpose of this discussion was not to select a route for connection or to make a decision as to whether or not there ought to be a connection of Willow Road to El Camino. The purpose is to respond to the Planning Commission recommendation to the effect that the Draft EIR on the entire proposed project is adequate. Mayor Norton commented that Councilmembers had the document for a number of weeks, and it deals with all aspects of the Willow Road Projects He added that the Planning Commission had held two Public Hearings on this question as well as on the question of whether or not there ought to be a connection and to recommend alternative routes. Meyer Norton considered it fair to say that everyone could assume that Councilsembare had read the document, the relevant minutes of both meetings held by the planning Commission, and a number of communications giving input into the process of the review of the environmental impact aspects. It was his hope that those who wished to address Council vould not feel it necessary to repeat what has already been said. Mayor Norton stressed that Council wets concerned at this meeting with just the revise of the Draft EIR. A final decision as to the adequacy of that draft in its final foram would not be wade at this meeting, end he explained there would be a meting in late lioye reer or early December when a final draft version of the EIR would be before Council encompassing modifications and responses to comments wide at this mastieg by Council and members of the audience. Following that, the Council would address ;ha question as to whether there should be as connection or extension of Willow Road to El Camino, and if so, what routes ought to be considered and spprovsd. Mayor Morton concluded his opening remarks by saying that at this melting there would be s preliminary ce a.sideration of the question, limited to the Draft RIR and not concert with the routing or connection. Mayor Norton stated that this was the time and place viten and where any sod all interested -persona could be heard on the - issue of the adequacy of the Draft Enviroimeental Impact Reports Willow Road Improvement Project, dated September 1975. Re declared the public hearing open, Mayor Norton esker! that the record show that the City Clerk has filebd au affidavit of publication of notice of this hearing and that varioua comunnications from the public, the staff, and the consultant have been received and filed as well as the sates of the public bearing 325 10/28/75 on the subject held by the Planning Commission of the City of Palo Alto on October 8, 1975, and the pertinent portion of the Commission minutes of October 15, 1975. He said the Council would at this point receive the report of the Planning Commission from its Chairwoman, Anne Steinberg. Mrs. Steinberg reported that the Planning Commission held a Public Hearing on the Draft EIR on October 8 after as presentation by the consultant and comments from the public. The Commission reviewed the document and made a finding that the Draft EIR contained all the elements necessary to make a decision on the Willow Road Improvement Project. Same questions and comments were voiced by members of the Commission and the public. Mrs. Steinberg said it was the recommendation of the Planning Commission that Council find the Draft EIR adequate and that the relevant co aenta together with responses made by the consultant and staff be included in the final EIR, Mayor Norton thanked Mrs. Steinberg and asked Russell Faure-Brae, Project Leader of the consultant team staff, to make his report. Mr. Faure-Brae reported that the study wee begun in June, and the report was completed this September. Two Public Hearinga were held with the Planning Commission on the report. Under alternativeo within the project, the coneultar,ts looked at a four -lane widening of existing Willow Road with a four --Lane extension along eight different alignments. Aa a aecoad alternative, the ccnsuitanve looked at a four -lane widening of Wallow Road with a two-lane extension; and based on cosmneats received at Public Hearings, Mr. Fauas-Srac maid they had looked at four possible alignments for the extension. As a third alternative, they considered a three-lr.ne widening of Willow Road and a two-lane extensions, again along four possible alignments. This brought the total number of evaluated alternatives within the project to sixteen. In addition, the consultants studied five passible intersection schemes at El Camino Real; axed the report addresses nine alternatives to the project, some of which could serve as replacements to the project and others which simply represent different assumptions relative to the Willow Road Improvement Project. Mr. Faura-Brac commented that the point he was making was that the consultants had studied a great many eiternativss, and a comprehensive job had been don* in looking at all of the feasible alternatives that existed. Re said all the subject areas that are required by the California Environmental Quality Act had been addressed. To date, a number of comments had bean received on the Draft RIR; and re ponses were being prepared. Those letters which bey been received had already been responded to. Mt. laure-Srac said he wee waiting for cents from the State of California on its mew of the report. When all of the dots are received, the consultants would complete their responses an4 add then to the Draft SIR. That would than become the final RIR which would be presented to the City Council for final review, approval, and ceertifiecstioe. Meyer Morton thanked Mr. Vau:ee-8rec and said that before Council heard from the audience, he had a few, preliminary remarks and a motion with regard to the so-called Quarry Road alternative or alternatives. It was Mayor Morton e a view that the Draft inviroamental Impact Retort r.coeeiaed the appropriate limits of the Willow Road improvement Project; correctly addressed the Quarry load alternative as one outside of the project; and some than adequately dealt with the feasibility and/or *meets of a Quarry Road aiteernntivee. If this Council wants to loxek any further at a Quarry Road project, there sight be a number of eit.irnative alignments that could be addressed, along with the costs and *pacts of extensive and expensive Intsrcbs gee vith RI Camino Reel, and not just the *ligament recently proposed by the Planning Comeiseioe. eees 3 2 IO/2$I15 r"----1--- However, Mayor Norton did not believe that Council wanted to look any further at Quarry Road, such detail befog totally outside of the scope of this project and its Environmental Impact Report, and he said he would make a sense motion to that effect. SENSE MOTION: Mayor Norton n ved, seconded by W'itherepoon, that Council did not want to look any further at Quarry Road, such detail being totally outside of the scope of this project and its Environmental Impact Report. Mayor Norton arcked City Attorney Robert Booth to elaborate an the recommended sense motion. Mr. Booth commented that if the Council were seriously interested in further considering; Quarry Road, then probably some further Environmental Impact Report work would be necessary. The matter is addressed in the EIR; and for a number of reaaons, it is not recommended. If Council desires to terminate discussion of that, the EIR would be sufficient for that purpose. Councilman Comstock remarked that at the outset of the Public Hearing, Mayor Norton indicated that the primary purpose of the Public Hearing was to receive and assess comments on the adequacy of the EIR; and at subsequent meetings, Council would be discussing any one of a number of alternative routings. He thought Zt was fair to say that Mayor Norton's proposed stage motion would raise the issue at this point, and people in the audience would feel obliged to speak to that. Councilman C tock thought this particular routing raised questions about the existing report as to whether or not enough ground was covered so that Council could make the kind of judgment which it had to make. The sense motion indicates a sense and direction so that people who might favor this alternative would want to speak to Council this evening, If they did want to speak, Councilman Comstock hoped that they would be allowed to do so; and then Council would want to ask the Planning Commission how their action brought forth this, among other alternatives before the door was closed on the entire utter. Mayor Norton responded that he would not expect people to feel precluded from preferringthe Quarry Road approach to the problem. It was of some concern to staff, though, that if this were left open, then a discussion could begin as to the possible or arguable need for a further environmental impact etucy on the Quarry Road aspect. It wee Mayor Norton's feeling that if Council did not want to consider Quarry Road seriously, that could be turned off rather quickly. He said hs was willing to postpone a vote oa the motion if there were considerable concern on the part of Council. It was his intention, in any event, to foreclose the natter et this aseetiu.g if there were mph votes to do that. Councilman Carey concurred with Councilman Comstock's remarks to the effect that the motion raises en issue which should properly be before Council at this time. The only question tonight wea whether or not the document is adequate, and the question of whether or not to connect and if to connect, bow - will occur at a subsequent meeting. Councilman Carey thought it could well be that Council would be prepared to very quickly dispose of the Planting Commisseioa recommendation end get on with the other issues. He said he we reluctant at this time to discuss that question, put it to rest, or make some determination not just because the only issues at this meeting was whether or not the RIR is adequate, but eleo because Cucil did not have the particular minutes of the Planning Commission feeling of October 13 in which the discussion of the quarry Road connection mould be recorded. terse» ally, 327 1O/2$/75 Councilman Carey would prefer to read those minutes before making a final determination. He commented that his initial reaction was one of surprise at the Planning Commission's action, in light of past Council direction, but he was not prepared to make a judgment until he had read the pertinent minutes. Vice Mayor Clay's thoughts were along the same lines as those of Councilmembers Carey and Comstock. His understanding of Council's vote at this meeting was that it would approve or disapprove the sufficiency of the draft EIR; and in the absence of further direction, no more attention would be given to Quarry Road anyway. Mayor Norton asked whether the recommended motion to exclude Quarry Road at this time should be dealt With now or at some later time - either later in this meeting or at same future meeting. Mr. Booth responded that the matter could be dealt with at any time Council chose to deal with it. SENSE MOTION WITHDRAWN: Mayor Norton, perceiving some reluctance an the part of Council to act on the motion now, withdrew his sense motion with the concurrence of his seconder, Councilwoman Witherspoon. He added that he would re -introduce the motion at a later time. Mayor Norton explained that the purpose of the motion was to preclude the need of doing another $58,000 study on an alternative that did not carry very much favor among Councilmembera. geyar Norton asked members of the Council to make c=menta on the Draft Environmental Impact Report if they so desired, after which Council would hear from the audience and then return the matter to the Council for further discussion and decision. Since there were no comments from Counciimen+bers, }fsyor Norton invited members of the audience to address Council. He reeuested that they limit their remarks to the sole question of the adequacy of the Draft Environmental Impact Report and, further, that they not repeat information already received at the Planning Commission public Hearings. He noted that the Coucil would decide at a later date whether or not to proceed with any phase of the proposed Willow Road Improvement Project. Dr. Nancy Jewell Cross, 1902 Palo Alto Way, Menlo Park, speaking both for herself and for the Committee for a Safe and Sensible San Francisquito Creek Area Routing, said ,ohs felt concern about the transportation around the Creak and the enduring character of the problems there. This sued to be related to the multiplicity of uriedictions each of which seed to be working within its own sphere, whereas the problems need to be solved by having everyone forget about jurieadictional boundaries and concentrate on how p.ople can be awed efficiently and still maintain the nicest possible environment. Dr. Cross *rued that the members of the Committee felt the Draft EIR was not adequate in that it did not consider some very important effects in San Mateo County, The requirements of the Environmental Quality Act include that the report speak to not only the direct crud primary effects, but also the indirect and secondary effects. It seemed to D. . Cross that the Planning Comamission ors had concerned themeelvee with what would happen to various streets in Palo Alto as a result of ono or avether of the varisai alternetivea® but there had been no attention given to what t happen et them other end of Willow Road. The total impact of any improvement to Willow Road nee ed to be considered; and as the lead agency, Palo Alto is responsible for the total impect. In Dr.. Cross' . opinion, the III could not be considered adequate without consideration of that impact in areas other than Palo A/to. Further, pre Cross considered the report to be inadequate guate with rsard to the impact en people end 321 10/28/73 i? community characeeristics. The influence of the road will be regional, and the growth of population is related to this major route. She explained that the Committee would like to have origin/destination studies considered when a decision was made as to the alignment of the road for sufficient transportation in the area, and these are conspicuously missing from the report. Origin/destination studies are important so that the efficiency of the alternatives can be studied, including Quarry Road and the Sand Hill Parkway plan to simply widening Willow Road. Dr. Cross reported that the Committee was concerned also about comments made to the effect that there would not be a great amount of traffic induced on the road, but this conclusion comes from the assumptions made from things that were put into a computer rather than from an evaluation of all the factors that might make a different aerotu t of traffic on the road. She said this kind of information needed to be laid out in the body of the report. The reference to intersections such as Oak Avenue and Willow Road or Vine Avenue and Willow Road should be changed to Vine and Oak with Sand Hill Road. Sand Lill Road goes down to the bridge next to Oak Creek Apartments, and the consultants considered the last three blocks of Sand Hill Road as part of Willow Road. Dr. Cross explained that everything in San Mateo County is Sand Hill Road and was there from the beginning, whereas Willow Road appeared just in 1955. More information was needed concerning the reference to 1.44 minutes of time saved in a trip of 14 minutes. She thought that was a small benefit of spending four, six, or eight million dollars; furthermore., it was necessary to know what time of day and under what conditions there were any savings at all. Perhaps there would be two minutes saved during the uncongested time of the day and none at all during the congested time of the dray, and thin is the whole point of widening Willow Road. Dr. Cross concluded her remark's by saying that these were the things that needed to be corrected before the report could be adequate enough for an intelligent, responsible, regional kind of decision. Terry A. Trumbull, 1011 Lincoln Avenue, representing the Loma Prieto Chapter of the Sierra Club, said the Environmental Impact Report was en excellent °us; however, he would attach one caveat, and that would be that the Report was excellent in its coverage of all alternatives which go down the north side of the parking lot. The report did not offer sufficient coverage of the Quarry Road alternative. Mr. Trumbull felt that if Council vented to do what Item 4 on -the agenda suggested - develop a document in which there are the elements necessary for making a da cieion - the document ought to include further development of the Quarry Road alternative. He strongly recommended that there be an addendum ndum to cover that alternative. The Quarry Road alternative mould have the advantages of the least cost and a really low environmental iapect. It wee ?ft. Trumnbull's understanding of the original Council directive that Quarry rry ad would be considered as an alternative. He vested that the addendum he auggestsd .should be reviewed by the Plannixr3 Commission and brought before the Council. Councilmen Carey responded that he agreed that if the Quarry Road is to be censidsrc$, a supplemental report to the Draft BIR would have to be obtained; but first it was necessary for Council to ass the Planning Commission minutes for its w,tine of October 13and decide if such an alternative were viable. If the alternative proved to not be viable, there would be no need for a supplemental EIl. Elisabeth Doyle, 515 Hell. Road, representing the Palo Alto Civic League, stated that the League ►a inclined to support one of the two elternativs proposals recommended by tits Planning Commission; and the one that intrigued the League was they Quarry Iced routs. -t� . 32'3 10/28/73 Although the League members understood the pressure of time the Commission was under to make a decision concerning the Draft EIR, they thought the Commission was premature in declaring it adequate. Regarding the Quarry Road route, there is not enough information; and that was puzzling since Quarry Road was clearly part of the charge to the consultants. Mrs. Boyle recalled that in January of this year, Mr. Knox remarked to the Council that a competent consultant would consider that route. Still, such infor:tatien is missing from the Draft EIR; and it should be added by the consultant. The report decreased the attractiveness of other routes by revealing weaknesses in thew and by showing future problems they would generate. It also points out some of the fallacies contained in the heretofore hypnotic preoccupation with the north of the shopping center route. Mrs. Boyle commented that the report makes one aware of the enormous land acquisition costs which would be involved in deciding an a route on the north side of the shopping center when Quarry Road is a p:eeseantly dedicated four -lane public right -.of -way. Another thing the report indicates is that stopping across from Alma Street would almost certainly be a temporary stoppage, and political pressure would soon result in a cross to Alma which would cause an enormous &meant of traffic through northern residential Palo Alto. In Mrs. Boyle's opinion, Palo Alto had obligations in this area; but those did not include providing a sixth through -traffic route through the town. She noted that some of the routes appeared to be much more expensive than otherae, and surely the American and global ec nomy indicate that no ore should overbuild any more. Mrs Boyle added that that attitude was probably out as aae American way of life. Tht League hoped the Council would consider the coat factors very seriously; and if one of the routes solves the problem no better than another and amounts only to overbuilding and higher costs, then Council would surely reject such a route. One of the questions the League had was to whet extent Palo Alto would participate in the AsssessieAt District. Also, to what extent would Palo Alto have to pay for a new route when it already ovussd one. Figure 50 ie the Draft EIR shows the terry Road route using only the existing road, and the photograph on the cover of the EIR shows very clearly the empty corner of the perking lot at RI Ca . and Quarry. Mrs: Boyle commented that that corner is always empty, awl it would be an obvious place to veer across the rand and leave oitl.y one atop light connecticn mt El Camino Real; and this swanned to fake sons* combined with the entrance to the ehopping center. Cm thane grows, the Civic Leegus urged Council to declare the Draft SIR inadequate in that it failed to sleet its charge end deal thoroughly with the Quarry Road alternative. On behalf of the League, Mrs. Boyle ash Coe it to request en addendum which would surely not cost another $55,000. Peter Gtamaiiae, $54 Rorke Rey, did not think Council could approve the Draft Ell. ?or one thing, the EIR could not be considered accurate or acceptable unless it takes into account the Stanford Shopping Center expo nsiosa. Tha report itself implies that by its statements "There should be close coordination during design of both projects to integrate the mutually bsxaficis1 feeturee'. gr. Giamalia remarked tbet the requirements of an EIR twee upon Cecil the need to consider viable alternatives, and the alternatives were givens inadequate treatment. Specifically, the Arboretuaur/Qusrry Reed alternative was passed over for consideration because the wean preparing the report easumed that intersection would run into the University Avmsaus + nderpasa. Mr. Gisal.is thought it did not take much imagination to assume you could sorer Quarry Road a little further north to intersect El Casino LOO yards or se above tba underpass. Re added that this elteraaaative would have less of an environments). impact boa suee Quarry Road sad Arboretum are in existence. Further, this routs would be lees costly then the otter altsreati►ves smaysed is the Draft tit. If this route 330 10/28/75. turned out to be the most economical approach, Mr. Clematis thought Council owed it to the taxpayers to pursue this alternative. In dosing, he pointed out that the Arboretum/Quarry Road alternative would not impinge on a grove of trees between the shopping center and San Francisquito Creek. Jocaph Carleton, 2350 Ross Road, considered the Draft EIR to be inadequate for a number of reasoner Not enough consideration was given to alteruatives to additional goads; for example, buses or other transit modes which would take off much of the traffic pressure. Also, Mr. Carleton thought the 1990 forecast seemed unrealistic as far as the amount of traffic was concerned. Increasing petroleum prices and increasing scarcity will surely reduce the growthprojections as would successful rapid transit efforts, which he hoped would be underway. Another reason thr► FIR wee inadequate was that further stw y was needed of the Quarry Road alternative as one that would serve the alleged need without sacrificing any of the creekside area, and this would preclude the possibility of en ultimate connection to Alma and perhaps beyond the Beysho?e Freeway. Finally, Mr. Carleton believed consideration had to be given to what mode of transit will cone down the peninsula - whether it would be an upgraded Southern Pacific, BART, or some other means. Until that is resolved, anything else would be premature. Mayor Norton read the fo1lwing letter from Menlo Park Councilman Robert J. Stephens: "Dear Mayor Norton, z have just had an opportunity to review the environmental impact statement on the Willow Road project between El Camino Real and the Creek. Because of the importance of this project to Menlo Park, I am requesting that this letter be wade pert of your hearing on Octaher 28, 1975. The report does not appear to adequately treat the profound effect that this project will have on the already complex co:ageeted corners at Sand Hill, Santa Cruz and Willow Road, and Alpine, Junipero Serra and Santa Cruz, both of which are in Menlo Park or in our sphere of influence. The predictable problem of severs cocageetion, that will be substantially wortened if current piens for the expansion c.f the Stanford Shopping Center are permitted to proceed, could be partially alleviated by completion of Campus Drive to an adequate connectiou with Junipero Serra. 'therefore, I respectfully request that acceptance of the report be delayed until a thorough consideration of these aspects can be adequately treated and the Council in Menlo Park has had en opportunity to review it. I am couf ident that your Council will extend this courtesy to halo Park and continue the spirit of cooperation .that has been developing in recent years on projects of major concern to both communities. I regret that 1 have not been able to bring this matter before the full Council in Menlo Park, but 1 intend to discuss it with the other hers at our regular meeting of October 28, 1975, the same evening that you have scheduled a public hearing on the matter before the Palo Alto Council. Thank you for your consideration." Mayor Norton cemented that the proposed action at this meeting vas not to be final, and the concerns of the Menlo Park City Council se they are formulated will csrtaiuly be taken into account before a final SLR is approved or o€hervice dealt with. Mayor Norton aeked if *eye= else in the audience wished to be beard on this matter. There being ogee, Mayor Norton invited Mr. Faure- Arac to respond_to cents which bad been made. Mr. Paure-Avec said the cor+suitaut team bag a with a directive wblch it received from Council in its motion of January, 1975. In that 331 10028/73 motion, the team was directed to look at the wideni.ig of Willow Road to four lanes and a four -lane extension to El Camino Real. That directive instructed the consultants to look at alignments which stayed away from the creek and stayed north of the center line of the perimeter road along the shopping center parking lot, along alignments (E) or (G). Mr. Faure-Brae commented that the directive was fairly unstructured, and the consultants realized they had to do come work to sort out how the project would be approached. The teas, began by familiarizing itself with the background of the project, gathering traffic data, and gathering economic data. It was not until the consultants were about halfway through the project that they formulated the alternatives, which were than evaluated and which appear in the EYR. The consultants attempted to respond to what they understood to be the sense of the Council directive, and they were somewhat concerned they may have gone overboard in developing too many alternatives. Mr. vau-e-Brae mentioned that they looked at sixteen major project alternatives and nine alternatives to the project, and his feeling was that the teem did as thorough a job as possible in evaluating alternatives. He commented that there is no limit to the number of alternatives that could be addressed on any project, and there is a point at which you have to decide to cut things off. Referring to the Quarry Road alternative, Mr. F&ure-Brac said when the project was firs: begun he found this alternative to be an intriguing and appealing one. However, he was concerned about how the team would approach it since it is essentially in a different corridor and circumstances from the alternatives north of the shopping center. For example, the consultants. were able to make noise measurements along the existing road and north of the shopping center in order to evaluate the noise impacts of the alternatives within the project; however, if an evaluation were to be made of the Quarry Road alternative, the Sand Hill Parkway plan, or the Campus Drive extension as an alternative within the project, noise monitoring would have had to be done throughout a very large area. This was clearly beyond the scope of what could be done on the project, and some limits had to be drawn. Mr, Faaure-Brac explained that the Consultants first considered the feasibility of the alternatives from a transportation point of view, and they primarily looked at the intersection of Quarry Road with El Camino Real. Discussions were held with officials from Caltrana, and the traffic engineering consultants studied the matter. After careful consideration, the traffic engineering consultants concluded that there appeared to be so many problems with it that it did not warrantinclusion as an alternative within the project. It wee, therefore, addressed as an alternative to the project. One of the main reaasone the consultant tee felt there would be difficulties with this particular alternative was that El Camino Real is a state road. That weans that Caltrans would have to approve of any i prov m ants that would be made on El Casino. Mr. Paure-Brae understood that Caltrans would not approve an alternative which would involve an inte,rsectiou that close to the University Avenue off -ramp. Caltrans has indicated that they are concerned about any intersection that night occur between the main entrance to the Stanford Shopping Center and than off -rasp to University Avenue. Mr. Faure-Bra said that when the team looked at the Willow Road alternatives within the project, they found there were problems with them; and those were described in the ELK. Kowevero the problems with than Quarry !Load alternatiwe were so much greater that the consultants decided to test it as they did. When the alternatives were firmed up, they were reviewed with Mx. Knox, end Mr. Pavloski to be sure that the city staff felt the consultants wets being responsive to the City Council's directive; and the alternatives were developed after vary careful consideration, Mr. Psure.,Bract assured the various speakers that all of the cents that had been made would be included in the final EIR along with responses. 332 10/28/75 To Br. Cross' comments that the consideration of the impact on San Mateo County was inadequate, that attention given to community characteristics housing and population was inadequate, and an inadequate job had been done of looking at secondary impacts, Mr. Faure-Brac stated that the impacts of the project outside of Palo Alto had been looked at. Page 99 of the report discusses direct and secondary effects of the project on population and housing. Pages 163 through 165 state in greater detail the growth inducing effect of the project, which is as secondary or indirect effect. The consultants also studied the effects on Stanford University's lands in San Mateo County and on office development along Sand Mill Road in San Mateo County, They also studied the effects on residential development in San Mateo County. To the ca nt made that origin/destination studies should be included in the report:, Mr. Faure-Brac remarked that such data was used, data that had been developed in 1972. That origin/destination report is a public one and is available to aaayoase who would like to review it. On the question of induced travel, the comment was made that the consultants allowed the computer to project what the induced travel would be without really considering all of the dynamic things that are going on in conrectioe with the project. Mr. Faure-Brac clarified that the computer model has information on existing and projected land uses, which include where people will live, where they will work, and the kinds of traffic patterns that would result. A constant traffic pattern is assumed in the computer :model; but after getting the results of that computer ;yodel, the consultants went back and took a second look to override - in a sense -- what the competes' had done to determine if the Willow Road Improvement Project would of itself induce travel that would not otherwise occur. What they discovered was that because of the capacity constraints of the intersections at the two ends of the project, the kind of improved travel time that would otherwise result in induced travel along Willow Road would be negated. Mr. Paure-Brac explained that if someone wanted to put in fully grade -separated interchanges at thoae intersections to provide a free flow of traffic, then there very definitely would be a significant amount of induced trevel as a result of the project since the capacity constraints wou2.d be eliminated. However, as that has not been proposed, the consultants concluded there would be no significant amount of induced travel as a result of the project. Referring to remarks made by Mr. Carleton, Mr. Paure- Stec said the transportation consultants looked at the possibility of putting in improved public transit and whether that would eliminate the need for a Willow Road Improvement Project. Wheat was found was that the .Willow Road area doe not have the kinds of characteristics that *ekes for good public transit, and their projection was that it would not be possible to ineti.tute a transit system that would set enough people cut of their automobiles to reduce the need for some kind of an improvement to the toad to handle the projected increases in traffic As to the queetiocr of whether transit would be coming dew the peninsula in the future, Mr. Faure-Brat remarked that this had been checked into as far as possible:. The report discusses the possibility of a M&T station or some other such transit near the exisrimg SP stettou aasd the relationship of the project to that eventuality. Mary Anne Mark, 725 Cowper Street, said that since the Planning Commission is osl7 an advisory body sttd sine Council did not have the October IS minutes, she wanted to briefly summarise some comments she and ter husband had made at the Pleasing Csmmiesiosa meetings. The EIR should include and a.sesssae the vsricua alignments for a two-lane road through the trews, both a divides road end, an undivided road. Ifrs. Mark commented that all of the mitigatioc measures discussed for the lour -law alternative, such es crosswalks, should be included, These aalteraeetives should thou* be integrated . inio the ranking system utilised 333 10/24/75 in the EIR. As a Palo Alto resident who paid $5.00 for the EIR, Mrs. Mark said she would expect to receive a copy of the addendum that discusses these alternatives. She continued that she had concern that the Public Works Department was acting as agent for the Assessment District and that the selection of an alternative would be heavily - related to the successful formation of an Assessment District. Since altefnative selection would be related to financing, this should be described and fully disclosed in the addendum. Stanford University could then formally comment on the Draft EIR with respect to an Assessment District. Finally, Airs. Mark requested the City Council to explore the role played by the Public Works Department in the negotiations for the Assessment Districts It was her hope that there would be persons present wholly representing the city's interests. Then Council may wish to consider the setting of appropriate policy guidelines for the Public Works Depart nt in these negotiations. Mrs. Mark concluded by eayiug that the City of Palo Alto was the lead agency, not Stanford University or some future Assessment District. Speaking to the Quarry Road a►ltereative, Mrs. Mark noted that pre -selection of alternatives or their elimination at this time was incorrect EIR procedure. Mayor Norton wanted to make it clear for the record that Councilmembers had a portion of the October 15 Planning Commission meeting minutes insofar an they relate to the EIR question and same of the natters raised by Mrs. Mark. The portion Council dig: not have, had to do with the recommended alignment, Therefore, Council had available to it ghat was brought up at the Commission meeting with respect to the Eig as well as the responses made by the consultant. Since there were no other members of the audience who wished to teak on the mitts_, Mayor Norton returned the subject to Council. He said the Crier would entertain a motion that the Council finds that the Draft Envlrccmeneal Impact Report on the Willow Road Improvement Project, dated September 1975, together with the additional data, both written and oral, submitted during this hearing, is sufficient under the requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act as to the project delineated in the Draft Environmental Impact Report and that a final Environmental Impact Report be prepared for review by the Council:.. IETIOW; Councilman Carey moved, seconded by Eyerly, that the Draft Envirosssesatal Impact Report on the Willow Road inprovement Project, dated September 1975, tog*ehsr with the additional dater both written and oral, submitted duri.ng this hearing, is sufficient under the requirements of tbo California Environmental Quality Act as to the project delineated in tbs Draft Environmental Is;pect Report and that a final Environmental 'spent Report be prepared for review by the Council, co *.s Comstock noted that ancluded in the Connell packet and attecbad to a letter dated October 23, 1975 from Elisabeth Crowder and l apbtali Enos wee a copy ox the motion ride in Council on 3suuary 13a 1975; and he thought tbst led to a number of connects suede by abets of the public at this meeting. The notion included a variety of things that were asked to be considered - trails, references to Plans (E) tad (0), and a statement that the ArboreteuR%q sny Road should be cooaidared. We asked the consultant if he had ever received anything in writing from Caltrans to the effect that they would not approve of that kimd of improvement. tlr. Psur*lira.: responded he had not received anything in writing* but ha thought a letter would be received soon from Caltra ne responding to the satire report. 334 1O/3$/75 3y Councilman Comstock asked what had happened between January 13 when the Council directive was given and the time when the Planning Commission took up the matter concerning the Arboretum/Quarry Road alternative. Naphtali Knox, Director of Planning and Community Environment, stated that the role he played WAS that of advising the consultant in ter'xa of interpretation of the Council motion. He referred to the January 13, 1975 Council minutes and read the first three of seven paragtephs as a means of responding to Councilman Comstock's query: "AMENDMENT: Councilwoman Pearson moved, seconded by Henderson, that the Arboretum/Quarry Road alternative be considered. Councilman Beahrs &asked if Councilwoman Pearson`s intention were to include this as an absolute alternative or as a combination with an extension. Counci1weman Pearson responded that her intention was for the consultant to look at whatever be deemed to be an alternative". Mr. Knox said there were four more paragraphs in th$t set of minutes, and he % su.Id be sere that they were call included in the final EIR so ,teat members of the public would have that inforration. The gist of the discussion is that a coraaul tart would in any event, whether required by the Council cr not, look at an aiterna..ive along the Quarry Road alignment; and it might be possible to find out very quickly what the effect of that would be. Per. Knot quoted himself as having said; "The consultant ray dismiss the idea quickly and easily", At any rate, Mr. Knox explAined, the ratter was properly acknowledged by the consultant as an alternative to the study but clearly as one outside of the: major direction, which was the Willow Road alignment. Therefore, it was considered as an alternative to the project rather than one witbia the project. Councilman Comstock understood as a result of this information how the part of the EIR dealing with the Arboretums/Quarry Road alternative read as it did. The report indicated that the consultants were not evalvsting that alternative; so if the sufficiency of the report were talked about, it was being talked about in terms of covering a variety of routes that were in the corridor ou one side of the shopping center. Councilman Comstock asked if the Council decided it wanted to consider this other eltarnative if there would have to be some revision or addendum to the Draft EIR; in other words, the consultant would have to be directed, along with the Commission, to conduct some of these same kinds of explorations and ask for that specifically. Further, he wanted to know if that were something Council could take up an a subsequent date and have further EIR :action taken. Councilmee Comstock explained that the reason he was asking was that if Council states at this meeting that this RIR is sufficient for those corridors, her needed to know if that shut the door forever or whether some of these options would still be available to Council. Mt. Rnox responded that in his view, there were a number of alternative alignments that could be considered for Quarry Road. The general align- ment along existing improvements was sna2.ysed by the consultant, and it *wood to have many problems and produce nothing in the way of positive flow for the traffic situation that *silts north of the shopping center. Councilmen Crlestock elucidated his comments by asking that if the Council wanted to consider soae4 ,1 litre that further, would something be required above and beyond the Draft EIR and would it be paselbls to have that dons. W. Knox explained that the alignment that roes discussed with regard to that alternative by the Flaring Commission was slightly different; 33S 10/28/75 and at the time that was discussed, he advised the Commission (after consultation with the Assistant City Attorney and other members of staff who were present at the meeting) that there could be a number of alternative alignments in the Quarry Road corridor; and the impacts of those specific alignments would have to be evaluated. That would require declaring the Quarry Road alternative a "project" and looking at the various alternatives that would beadle the traffic in thet particular alignment. Therefore, staff advised the Planning Commisbion on October 15 that a supplementary EIR would have to be made if that Commission alignment were to be reviewed. Mr. Knox commented that the action with regard to a supplemental EIR is covered in the City Code in Chapter 11.24.040. As Councilmen Coauetock understood fir. Knox' comments, what Council had before it was sufficient but not for that particular area; and if Council later on becomes interested in this other area, something in addition would be required, Mr. Knox responded that Councilmen Comstock's understanding was correct. If Council wanted to go into detail on Quarry Road, a supplementary EIR. would have to be done. Councilman Ccnstock asked for reassurance that it .as possible for Council to do that if it eo desired. Mt. Knox said that was correct. Councilman Comstock remarked that as the EIR was read, one would get into effects and mitigation. For example, mention was made about the affect of traffic noise on the group of horses just the other side of the creek; and there wane some discussion as to whether there would be increases in noise levels a.nd ways of mitigation, such as modification of the construction of the residences by the use of double -pane windows, etc. His question was whether there was a recognition, or admission at this point that the city having become aware of these conditions that they - somehow aioag the way - will become part of the project; and that in order to accomplteh the project, the city would be required to perform some of the mitigation measures. In other cords, doss the city by discovering that there will be affects that could be mitigated become responsible for taking the mitigation actions? Ht. Feure--Bras replied that the way he looked at the mitigation information in the report was that they wore merely suggestions or recommendations as to measures which could be taken in the design phese of the project if it were so deceived. -de explained that the recommeadations were not binding ones in any way. They may be desired eitigetion features which would be inrcorporatei into the cost of the project, or a decision could be made that that was not a .dasirabis way to go. Councilman Comstock commented that if the city recognised and accepted the information, it would then recognise and 'accept the propositivo that noise in those areas had been increased. 4 asked how mach obligation this would impose on the city to take some sort of mitigating action; and what would happen if the city did not put up a fence, construct a berm, or talcs any of those sorts of actions. Robert K. tooth, City Attorney, stated that if there were an extremely adverse environmeatal impact and the project was to to forward, some measures ought to be taken. If the cost is prohibitive or If trace ars other dtssdve Cages to such sitigstion measures, consideration would have to be much more thorough; sod perhaps Council would decide to not edopt a tertian project. Counclimaa Mock asked it this mere something Council should be tats about . mar er subeequem4 to the eioptioa of the I= vhen the ti.3 G other Commission r�stisaes stab before Council. Re wonted to be sure as opportunity to deal with this subject rtes neat :chased. 33' 10/2i/75 Mr. Booth responded that the action or not the EIR adequately addresses Comstock did not think that the EIR be the appropriate time to bring up at this meeting involved whether the t attcr; and if Councilman met those criteria, this would the subject. Councilmen Comstock said that in his questions he had been trying to deal with a number of points which the audience had raised. Also, he wanted to assure himself that in understanding the focus and the direction of the EIR regarding the areas it does and does not cover, that it would be clear what would be required if other routes were to be considered. In doing that in this case, Council was really addressing itself to a specific series of alternatives; and Councilman Comstock said that, personally, with that understanding in mind, he was satisfied that the EIR sufficiently covers those subjects. He still had reservations about how the city would deal with some of the things necessary to mitigate the effect of this project, but it was his understanding that could be taken up when the matter was considered eubsegnently. It seemed to Councilman Comstock that the EIR did provide a fair amount of information about the corridor that rune between the shopping center and the creek and over to Menlo Park, what the effects of the project: would be, and what could be done In the area of mitigation; and Council would have the opportunity to discuss those in due course. Councilman Berwald stated he was ready to accept and receive the Draft EIR but he wanted to be certain that the final EIR handled a number of mitigation items in a manner that would be satisfactory to him. One of these would be the separation of pedestrian and bicycle (or non --motorized) traffic from motorized traffic along the entire corridor. Secondly, he wanted the pedestrian crossing between Menlo Park, and Palo Alto to be carried out with the development of the roadway in such a way that it would coordinate with the separation of pedestrian and bicycle traffic from motorized traffic. Another ratter of concern to Councilman Berwlaid was the archeology in the area. A fourth point was the subject of transit that had been mentioned by Mr. Carleton. There vas no excuse, as far as Councilman Berwaid was con erned, to be as silent and negative as the EIR had been on the matter of transit when a subject as important as this roadway was under discussion. He said there were some alternatives in that corridor which could provide for some awash transit or circulation traffic in the area. As far as mitigation was concerned, thous were Councilman: Bervaid's major - i.nterests. He noted that there had been one count made about pedestrian crossings 'which ha hoped vas not meant the way it sounded. Council did ask about a padestri:su/b:icycie overpass or underpass, and that use included in the Council minutes and referral on Willow Road. There was even aoaree detailed discussion about having underpasses that were not tux xel-Tike and that offered safety features. The motion to declare sufficient the Draft Environmental Impact Repair; on tble Willow Road Improvement Project was approved on the following vote: AYES: Berwaid, Carey, Clay, Comstock, Eyerly, Horton, Witherspoon MOT PARTICIPATING; G; Sher ABSENT: &uhrs Mayor Horton declared the Public Bearing closed, 337 14/211/73 Fi CE AND PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE 1 iMr; a �� eee.l lese,�.8).9940* w : 52%' S) i1Nl MOTION: Councilman Berwald, Cheirman of the Finance and Public Worka Committee, moved on behalf of the Committee that: (a) the Project Mobility programs be funded for mobility impaired citizens, over eighteen years old; (b) the program be funded at the level of $60,000 for the balance of this fiscal year; (c) the staff be authorized to institute minimum eligibility requirements on a sliding scale for payment by participants ranging from 90% downward; (d) the funding for this project be taken from the Drug Abuse Progr M appropriation for this fiscal year; and (e) the staff be directed to continuously evaluate the project during the balance of this fiscal year and based on this year's experience, be prepared to make recommeudationa during budget discussions for the fiscal year 1976-77; and Councilman Berwald introduced the following ordinance and moved its adoption: ORDINANCE NO. 2881 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING THE BUWET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1975-76 TO PROVIDE SUPPLEMENTAL FUNDING FORTHETRANSPORTATION OF CERTAIN MOBILITY -IMPAIRED CITY RESIDENTS" Corrected Pg. 3413 Corrected Pg. 413 1 Councilman Berwald stated there was ample evidence presented to the Finance and Public Works Committee that the need of mobility impaired persons vas a very saute one, and that i.s the municipal service of providing traneportet..ion assistance to these persona should rcpt be limited to those over aixty-fiva yeera of age; hut it should be availeble for all handicapped persons over eighteen years of age, He said the people who appeared before the Finance end Public Works Committee ranged in age from thirty-eight to over ninety. Councilman Berwald commented that no ore could sit through such a meeting and not be moved with a greet deal of compassion for these people and not be convinced that they do have needs that they are not able to fulfill on their own in terms of transportation. He thought it was interesting that the modality of transportation available to t.iie:m at the present time fie the taxicab, not the public transit. This was of some concern to the members of the Committee as well as the fact that the taxicabs were operated by private people, and the city has made a contract with the taxi company. Councilman Bsrvaid explained the Committee felt very strongly that while the service is for mobility impaired citizens, nevertheless. tiers should be some type of eligibility requirement eo tba£ tholes most needy vile receive the service. Those capable of paying would pay, and perhaps those who ars financially independent would not toms to the city for assistance. Those who were lees financially independent sight pay a certain amount ranging downward from ninety poresnt. This means that for a $20.00 coupon bookp Weans receiving a uisrsty patient rubwidy would pay $2.00; thou in the eighty percent bracket would pay $4.00; etc. Councilman Ber eld said the staff haza agreed to do this for the belie ce of the fiscal year. Referring to part (s) of the Committee's recommendation, Councilman barveld stated that during the balance of this fiscal year, staff would be able to evaluate the project, evaluate the approach to thaa project, and be prepared to sake recommendations for the nett budget year. Speaking to (4) of the recommendation* Ceuncilmsu Berveld commented that the funding for the project would be t,akme from the Drug Abuse Program appropriation for this fiscal year; and be said this did not mean that anytime eras being takes; array from the Drug Abuse Program, That is just recognising the fact that the $133,000 available is budgeted for a full fiscal year, and that is over 810,000 par meeth; and six menthe seams 440,000. In fact, staff commented that the entire asou at could cars from the Drug *hues Program. In the minutes of the Pima awl Public Works Coaittes meting, theca vets saes fixates that ».2- 331 10/21/75 appear to be inconsistent; but in examining them, you find that the cost of this program was estimated by Staff to be $75,000, and $15,000 would be covered by ticket sales. This makes the net cost $60,000. Councilman 5erwald reported that the Yellow Cab Company has agreed not to increase the fares during this fiscal year. One of the things that came out in the meeting was that the four hands -coach buses are to be employed by the Transit District in San Jose and Cupertino. The Committee felt it should continue to explore the decision of the Transit District to consolidate this service in such a very small area area and to indicate to the District that at some time, there should be a van for the handicapped provided by the County for this are. Another count Councilman Berwald wanted to snake was that the extension of this service to those between eighteen and sixty-five years of age did not double or triple the increase in cost. Actually, the increase is quite a modest one, Councilman Eerwaid noted that the ordinance used the words "supplemental funding:, and what it does is take $60,000 from the Drug Program and transfer it to the Transportation Services Program. He remarked there was a report from staff dated October 23rd, and it was Councilman Serwald's feeling that the Committee believes the details o$ the funding for the next six months is an administrative matter and was not somethitg that needed to be talked of in great detail at the Council level. He thought Committee members could probably take issue with the statement in the report that the motion was based on the netitr of an average city subsidy of seventy percent. That was not in the emotion, but it was probably talked about during the meeting. Councilman Berwald recalled that Councilman Sher commented the program should stay within $60,000; and that staff would be able to figure out tow to do that. Councilman Berwald took mild issue with the statement made in the last paeagraph of the report about concomitant reductions in the levels of service provided by the departments in other areas of responsibility. He did not think Council should get into a discussion of that, and he thought there might be some CETA positions th; t might be available. Councilman ferwaald`e guess was that the administrative work load of this type of sliding scale eligibility syetess would not be onorous to the staff. Vice Mayor Clay said he had some questions with regard to the reaponeas in the staff report. The staff seemed to feel that the cost of implementing the program would be $70,000 rather than the $60,000 recommended by the Finance and Public Works Committee. he asked why that was the tea,. Ted Nuguchi, Director of Transportation, responded that if the senior citizens over sixty-five are to be excluded from the sliding scale cysts*, the cost would go up to $70,000. If they are included, the cost will remain at 00,000. Vice Meyor Clay asked bow ash of that was overhead. Mr. Noguchl explained that the figure was for operational costs, anti sd% nistrative costs mere not included. Vies Mayor Clay asked if the 570,000 figure did not include a administraitive coals. guchi replied that was correct. Vice Mayor Clay esked wfist the total cost would be. Mt. Noguchi satd the cost of administering the program would be in the order of $2,400. 3 3 9 10/21173 Vice Mayor Clay asked if it would cost that amount regardless of the manner in which the program was administered. Mr. Noguchi explained that the administrative costa would go up to about $4,500 if a sliding scale program were administered. Vice Mayor Clay noted that if the $60,000 appropriation were not adequate, staff mentioned in its report that it could negotiatie with the Yellow Cab Company to eetablish a special discount rate for Project Mobility riders. He said he would assume that staff would do that under any circumstances, and he asked why staff had not attempted such a negotiation. Mr. Noguchi raeeponded that the program was originally started on the basis that there wawa not a direct contract with the Yellow Cab Company, and the coupon book system was being used. The intent was to not encumber tber the program with a special contract at a time when the county was mimed in a suit with the Cab Company about the competition. That was the reason a contract system was not entered into; and beceuee of the lack of a contract, the city was controlled by the fare structure established by the Yellow Cab Company. Vice Mayor Clay said that if the cab companies were not atilt threatened with oblivion because of Dial--A--Bus, then the conditions were different; and the city could enter into an agreement with a taxicab company and possibly reduce the cost of Project Mobility, Mr. Noguchi said it was staff's hope that there was a possibility through discussions with the Yellow Cab Company for a special discount rate for Project Mobility riders; however, there was no assurance of that. Vita Mayor Clay found this interesting because if the city could get more impact for a3 dollar by entering into a contract with a cab csrapeny, perhaps that is whet should be done. For that reason, perhaps Council should defer asking a decision at this meeting until it can be determined what can be dons to gat the best service, which would be to sere more people with fewer dollars. Vice Mayor Clay conmeated that 'men he looked at the sliding scale approach, he could appreciate what was intended; but he thought such a system might be more complex and coetly and thus,, self-defeating. To Vice Mayor Clay the objectives were to provide a mama of transportation for those who would otherwise find it scononical2y painful to travel locally, to provide a aMeraas of transportetionx which is more efficient in tsrms of conservation of fuel than the single-passaneer made of transportation, and to provide this type of transportation program for people and got more impact for each dollar spent. Explaining this, Vice Mayor Clay remarked that when he spoke of the impact of each dollar, he was not only thinking of the $60,000 out-of-pocket sus, but slso tbs amount of staff time spent in administering the program. He said he looked at the program from tbo standpoint of its possibly being self-defeating, and he locked at a feature staff said it must entertain if it were going to implement the sliding scale system and that was ascertaining the ability of the applicant to pey. Vico Mayer Clay felt this would border on invasion of privacy, and he wondered bait many people would be willing to use the service at the expense of gib information which they deemed to be private. He thought that if the city used the fixed subsidy rats and applied -that across-the-board for all mobility impaired perms eights yews of sgs or older, that would certainly reduce the administration costs, Lt would also remove one of the facets he was concerned about, and that was boar much information was needed to implement a program of this type. Vice Mayor Clay continued that with regard to (d) of the Committee recommendetien, it might very well be that the city 3c/ 340 10/28/75 would not be spending the $135,000 that is in the budget; but he thought it would be pre-emptive for Council to remove any money at this time from the budget while it is entertaining proposals to provide a drug program for the city. He said he did not know if the program would cost $135,000; but he also had no reason to believe it would be that figure minus $60,000. Michael Demeter, Yellow Cab Company, was interested in tasking about a more detailed study for the financing of Project Mobility in future years. The Transit Development Act (SB-325) was passed in 1971, which is the sales ter on gasoline. At the present time, all of thie money goes to the Transit District through the MTC. If the City of Palo Alto wished to get assistance for Project Mobility from the gas tax fund, it would not be able to get it. He thought Palo Alto had requested assistance from the Santa Clara County Tranait District, as well as Los ,Gatos and Sunnyvale, end the request was turned down. Mr. Demeter dented that the Legislature is taking a different view of transportation; in particular, transportation for the handicapped and the aged. The Legislature wants to mend SB-325 so that a city will be able to apply disrectly for funds to support programs such as Project Mobility. As a matter of fact, on October 29th and 30th there is a public hearing for the Joint Committee meeting of the Assembly Transportation Committee and the Senate Public Utilities Committee in San Jose, with Senator Alquist serving as Chairman. The purpose of this public hearing is to get input from cities, senior citizens, businessmen, and any interested person as to how SB-325 should be modified so that gas tax funds would be able to be spent on programs such as Project Mobility. M_. Demeter thought it might be wise for Council to have a representative of Palo Alto present at the meetings to express the desire that some of the money be used for this project. George Sipel, City Manager, thought it would be appropriate for the city to get ±te po eiticn on the matter into the hands of the Committee as soon as possible; but he was not sure it would be worth it to have someone from staff sit in on en all day meeting to testify to seething which could be just as well communicated in another way. Mayor Norton asked if Hr. Sipe' had a recommendation as to the position the city should take on SB-325 Mr. Sips/ reepondsd that this appsered to be something the city would want to support, end he knew of nothing in the bill that would be negative. Meyur Norton asked if one ot the advantages would be that Palo Alto would be in a position to apply to a rotate level agency for funding. Councilmen Sher stated that Palo Alto et one time requested that the Transit District provide funds to help finsn a Project Mobility, as did Suauryvsle and Los Gatos; aid their response was the law did not permit that kiwi of funding. The city already had a policy that it would like to get some help with this program, which was provl.tg to be quits effective; and at an appropriate time during this meeting, Councilman Sher said he would lisha.0 motion to have Council go an record as supporting the change in Sb-325 that would permit direct eppllc,tion to the state for funds for - thij ' pu rposc and have staff _.-Tcommunicets that to ,thee joint As*esbiy and Senate hearingg. Gypsy Lawrence, 1031 Harker Avenues, said there were several respects of tb* Committee recommendation which worried her; and one of those wee the temliou of privacy regarding income, Proving eligibility 344 1of2*17 of the persona who wanted to use the program would be extremely time consuming in that it is very difficult to determine who is eligible for any subsidy, Mrs. Lawrence really wondered if the time consumed would be worth it in the end and whether it might not be more advantageous to go along with one given figure and not try to have a sliding scale of eligibility. She pointed out that there were no figures available as to how many people there were between eighteen and sixty --five years of age who would participate in the program. It seemed to Mrs. Lawrence that the beet thing to dc would be to go for the rest of this fiscal year without any charge over and abrsve what is charged for those over sixty-five at this time. Records could be maintained for that period of time and then analyzed to see how the program is doing. Mrs. Lewrencc did not believe there were very many economically independent people who would abuse the program. She wondered if the money that was budgeted would permit additional staff to handle eligibility determination, etc, Mts. Lawrence stated that the program was badly needed, and she hoped it would not be jeopardized by extending it without knowing exeectly what wee being done. Councilman Fyerly said it was his understanding that using the money budgeted for the Drug Abuse Program was not a real problem. The money would be used on a monthly basis for the Drug Program, and this meant there was $60,000 that would rot be expended. He asked if his understanding were correct. Mr. Sipel responded that Councilman Eyerly's understanding was correct. The people who intend to respond to the Request for Proposals are aware of the situation, and they ,.nderstsnd that their proposals would be for a half year. Councilman Eyerly commented that everyone on the Finance and Public Works Committee realized how much the program wee needed, but they did have the feeling that this was a growing program. The need fcr money expanded very rapidly; and realizing the financial situation in the city, the Committee wee reluctant to leave the matter wide open. They felt a sliding scale was necessary because the number of times transportation was needed varied from person to person. The usage vaerie.d as wall se the income. Councilmen Ryerly explained that the Committee was reluctant to provide help for persons oho were not in as greet a need as others. It was felt that the additional six ee the was needed for staff to gather facts on the program, and that is vby the Committee eearcbod for a method of funding. Once some facts were known, an int*Uigert approach to the project coule be tstsm during the next budget year. Everyone, needed to reco^-t&s that Project Mobility would have to cote before the budget hearings for the next fiscal ]ream feud go through the social +etudiea setup which the Policy end Procedures Committee is working on to determine what the funeing would be and how it would be handled in the future. Councilmen. l yeerly thought that, realising those aspects, the Council should be able to support the Committee recommendations. Coeecilvoamn Witherspoon larked that with regard to getting the county to loan Palo Alto some of its vans that accommodated wheelchairs, the City/School 1.ia2.on Committee was ezplo cin that; and she eseumed some samber of city stiff would be telling the school staff mom what the hopes were in that earse. Mt. Sipel **id this would be explored by a staff aem eer, end there would be en answer in then next two to tows* months. Mr. Moguehi added that aiws the discussion at the Committee eating *bout the special bandicoach buses, the county has now plumed, on a recoeeideration basis, for rout* that would go down Middlefield_ Reed in telex Alto to the Stamford Medical. Center. This has not received final eppaeosal, but it is a very reel possibility. 342 10/28/73 Councilman Berwald stated this was the kind of program which lent itself to staff innovation with regard to reducing administrative costs. For example, things can be done with respect to pooling, and Mr. Noguchi mentioned the possibility of using the handicoach buses. Mainly, Councilman Berwald wanted to respond to remarks made by Vice Mayor Clay and Mrs. Lawrence. For one thing, public funds expended without controls are probably the greatest reason for municipalities going into debt more and more. He assumed his colleagues on the Finance and Public Works Committee shared his belief that there should be some vay of measuring need, whether the need is for public transportation for nobility impaired persons, food stamps, child care, or anything else. It was just common. sense to set up same sort of screening device so that those who are able to pay do so, and those who are most in need receive the funds. In fact, the better the controls are, the more certain you can be that the dollars are going to those persons who actually need it. Some of the persons who attended the Finance and Public Works Committee meeting said they thought the program was such a valuable service that they would be happy to pay a higher price for it. Another point Councilman Be eld brought out was that the Committee did not really ask the ataf,f for any complex investigation or invasion of privacy. The suggestion was that the people applyi=_.g for the service should simply be asked about their financial situation, and Councilman Berwald thought most of them would be very honest about saying what their income was and what they thought they could afford to pay. Some control devices and screening methods should be tried over the next six months. The program started out as a $20,000 project five months ago; and during that time, the fumes were completely expended. Sixty thousand dollars more is needed to continue Project Mobility for the balance of the year. Next year the project may be an even bigger one. Council an Berwald felt It wee necessary to build in en evaluation method so there can be some control over tf.e acceleration of costs. Vice Mayor Clay stated that to hie recollection, there wan no reference as to bow the drug money would be spent. The recommendation at the Nay 20th meeting of the Policy and Procedures Committee was to maintain $I35,000 in the budget; and at the Council meeting of June 2nd, that was approved without qualifications. Therefore, it is not known positively that there will be $60,000 eveilable. Vice Mayor Clay pointed out diet the program would bays to be arose costly to ed minter if staff mould be required to establish eligibility. Also, he stated he was strongly against gathering information to implement the program when that constituted i.nvesioa of privacy. AM T: Vice Mayor Clay awed, seconded by Carey, tbnt (c) of tbs Fiza>mea and Public Works CC®mitt a recomsmndaetion be deleted. Councilmen Carey said he escoadnd the motion because despite Councilman ssrwold' a tomcats which are wail taken because need should be assured, he would make a distinction in this perticu;ax case because a person who is handicapped has his owe, need. Perhaps that is a distinction from other programs. One who is bandicsppeed would obviously i cvee sore expenditures. Councilman Carey thought that sincep the program would be re -wafted by the end of testa fisceel year, it should be tried in the simplest way as suggested by Visa Mayor Clay. The programs could be monitored; and at the net of the fiscal year, the costs would be determined. Councilman Corey wee also concerned about the matter. of invasion of privacy, Be continued that be vms concerned about the overall project. It was Councilman Corey's understending that this woe a cout;nsution of an existing project; aced for that reason, he could not consider it a now one. It was on that basis that he would cast his vats. Be ezplaisad that be suss referring to Con ell' a 343 10/2$173 motion to refer all social programa to Committee for review and to come back to Council with an overall analysis of all social programa. Councilman Carey thought Council had trapped itself in the recent past on this question, and he did net want to have that happen again. However, this is not a new program; rather, it is an existing program previously funded by the city. Councilman Sher, speaking to the motion on the floor, said he felt clear about the fact that Council ought not to spend more than the fused dollar sun for the balance of the fiscal year. The proposal is for $60,000; and if the project ran out of funds in mid -year, Councilman Sher did not want to have another request for funds that would have to come out of Capital Improvements Fuzed or unappropriated reserves. He said he was sympathetic to Vice Mayor Clay's views about invasion of privacy; but he was impressed with what the staff has already done in suggesting how they would administer the sliding scale. Any person receiving Social Security Disability or Supplemental Security Income, or earning an income equivalent to SSD or SSI recipients would be entitled to a 90% city subsidy. So the subsidy would be automatic for those persons receiving ;hose benefits or that level of income. Those who did not fit into those categories would have to reveal their income figures, and the sliding scale would be applied below the 90% subsidy with regard to household income. Councilman Sher thought this was already doze is the low income housing program in order to determine who is eligible for those houses which are hold below the market price. People who apply for such units do have to reveal their incomes. Councilman Sher said he liked this approach if it meant the $60,000 would go further; however, he was prepared to support Vice Mayor Clay's approach if an egr:eeament were male at this 'meeting that if the $60,000 runs out, no more funds would be put into the program this fiscal year. At the Committee rseeting, Councilman Shaer said be thought the experimental period should be used for collecting information and for determining how the program would be administered. Staff had already proposed as method by which they would ads/ulster the program, and Coue cilman Sher said he would stay with the Committee recommendation. Vice Mayor Clay had thought of recommending a percentage - perrhapc eighty percent across -the - rd. Be said he was not sure that eighty would be the right percentage; therefore, he decided to hold off on that unless there was some indications of a correct percentage to ;at the sonny spread properly, which would bs dome by stating a figure. Vice Mayor Clay also soon rmd that 04 aseationiag of the fact that it night be possible to negotiate an agreement with a cab cry to provide service :9st a lover cost thaw chat had been thought by the Finance and Public Works Committee would mean that action could else be taken by staff. With regard to this comparison of Project Mobility to love/moderate income housing, Vices Meyer Clay said ha saw it as quite different because of the order of magnitude. The amendment to delete (c) of the Fines and Public Works Committee rec- ommendation failed an tbs following vets; ♦TES i Carey, Cl ey, Horton MOM i rvaId. Ceaaasstoek, 4801, Sher, Witherspoon Visa Mayor Clay *aid because there wee no veterans wade in any recomme, datioaa by the policy end Procedures Committee nor in the decision meads! by Council as to the name: in which tbs drug fund ought to bit spent, and because to trenstsr nosey free one fund to another is further compounding the problem undo; discussion as to social program anal X544 10/21/73 how much money should be spent on them, and because of the proposals the city is asking to have submitted now for a drug program, making a transfer of funds from the drug program to Project Mobility did not make sense. He thought this would be pre-empting what decisions Council may make as a result of what it sees later. AMENDMENT: Vice Mayor Clay moved, seconded by Carey, that (d) of the Finance and Public Works recommendation be deleted. Councilman Sher stated there was no alternate source of fuiding. The budget is fixed; and if this program is going to be budgeted, the money has to come out of the unappropriated capital reserves. Councilman Sher said he, for one, wa8 bound to not further deplete the reserves ie the course of the budget year at a time when there is no way to build them up. He noted that Vice Mayor Clay talked about treeeferring Lunde from one program to another; but the fact is that the $135,000 was budgeted, and the Committee members were told at their meeting that that amount was understood to be budgeted on a month -to --month basis. It was not contemplated that if Council finally did approve a drug program next January, that there was any commitment to spend $135,000 in the remaining six months of the fiscal. year. Co=ciimen Sher said this happened frequently where funds are budgeted for one program; but for one reason or another, they are not expended during the year and are, therefore, available for transfer to other purposes. That sAemed appropriate in this case to Councilman Sher, and he said he would rot be inclined to dip into the capital funds to support Project Mobility when there are budgeted funds available. He recommended that hie colleagues vote agairu t the amendment, The amendment to delete item d) of the Finance and Public Works Committee recommendation failed on the following vote: AYES: Carey; Clay NOES: Berwald, Comstock, Eyerly, Norton, Sher, Witherspoon The Finance and Public Works Committee recommendations with respect to Project Mobility passed, and the ordinance wee adopted on a unanimous vote, MOTION: Councilman Sher moved, seconded by Comstock, that Council go on record as supporting the prepoeal to emend SB-325 to permit direct applicatio+a to the state for funds for programs such as Project Mobility led direct staff to communicate thia position to the joint Senate/Assembly hearings. The mot: on passed on a eauartiwrcw vote. 41 gat I 4) tt?Illilt d, 'it Councilmen Comstock stated he would make a motion to bring Item (6) forward on the agenda; awl if the motion passed, after it had been dealt with, he would move to adjourn the .meeting. NOTION: Coutitilmar Constbck moved, astonded by $ortona that Item (6) ea 'tine agen4a be *Trod forward for coneidaratioa at this tine. 565 10/21!/75 Councilman Sher considered item 5-A to be a matter of some urgency because the Senior Coordinating Council is ready to establish the senior day care centers. The ouncil has a commitment from a foundation for funds, but it cannot move. forward until it obtains a use permit for the location of the centf;r.; The item was a relatively noncontroversial one, and Councilman Sher thought it was important to see that it was adopted at th,a meeting. Since Councilman Comstock intended to move for adjournment after Council dealt with Item 6, Councilman Sher said he mould vote against the motion. The motion failed on the following vote: AYES: Comstock, Witherspoon NOES: Bervald, Carey, Clay, Eyerly, Norton, Sher MOTION: Councilman Comstock introduced the: following ordinance and moved, seconded by Norton, its approval for first reading: ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF TUE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING SECTION 18.44.144 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE TO ALLOW DAY CARE CENTERS FOR SENIORS IN ZONES WHEN A USE PERMIT IS OBTAINED Councilman Eyerly asked in what tones the day care centers were presently permitted. W. Booth responded that they would be allowed in any commercial sone, xest of the industrial zones, and all of the multi -family cones. This chaise in the ordinance would extend the use permit requirement to permit them in R-1 and R-DUP cones. Councilman Eyerly said he was concerned about extending this kind of .Dish; to R -I areas. is could envision increased traffic, for ioat s, and he was not sure that he would want a day care center nett to his home that might be taking acre of as many as twenty senior ctti►asas. Councilman Eyerly felt that uses such as tbis should be confined to multi -family &rats, and he sear no reason for ievfoltrg the ..4 areas with such use. The discussion as r,.corded in the !1sariies Commission minutes wee a very short ono, end Councilman Ityerly woad:red if all of the consequences had been looked at. The gnviron~msntel impact Report indicated there would be no impact, but Councilman grisly wee not certain that be agreed with thwt. Me Doted that staff paid 44 e rarmrent*I impact report would hens to be done on each day core center that was allayed, end he wanted to know whether the request, would have to coma back to Council for consideration. Councilmen I yerly stated he could not 'support the ordinance because of these aaenwersd questions and his own foe/Jugs about A-1 a<raaa0. Mt. booth said that with impact to opprepriste places for thee* csatere, it wow anticipated that the balk of thew would fall with .a 'attain church . feci_ litiae %Melts withminer pxceptioes, were swankily is R -j arse,. The use permit procedure Will allow indep_ ensa; raved of each ipplicatim that came forward, ftrat by the Zoniap Adainietrptor a public hsari*p *ad it *NY pgrty is dtsestiaf i ed with the remelts therm, the setter would be reviewed by the nasals; Comeieeten asp! the City Coeaetl, The Architectural Review leant would be /evolved 344 9Pra. tQ/t4/7p if there were any major structural codifications. Mr. Booth explained the procedure is the same one followed for children's day care centers. He said it was not anticipated that there would be a large number of these, if any, in single family homes; but they would be within the zoning boundaries which contain uses such as churches. Councilman Eyerly realized they would primarily be located in churches, but he wanted to know if there were any real protection provided by the ordinance. There is the protection of a use permit, but he wanted to know if those would come back to Council. Mr. Booth responded that those would come to Council only if there were an appeal made by someone who was dissatisfied with the results of the public hearing held by the Zoning Administrator. Councilman Eyerly said that if it were built into the ordinance that Council wound survey each one that was not going to be located in a certain type of facility, then perhaps he could support it. Mayor Norton recalled that befcre a use permit hearing is held, notice is sent to all of the property cwnere within 250 feet of the site proposed to be used. Therefore, they have the opportunity of appearing at the hearing and having their feelings heard, which are taken into account by the Zoning Administrator, If he grants the use permit, any person who is dissatisfied can appeal to the Planning Commission and, eventually, to the City Council. Mayor Norton thought this wa a built-in mechanism for having a fopum for aggrieved persons to state their concerns. He asked it his rec›llections were correct. Mr. Booth respondei afxirmatively. In response to Councilmen Eyerly s e comments, CoCouncilman Sher said the change in the ord{nanr€ is not as drastic as he had suggested in that the day care cef tiers are presently permitted in the R-1 zone. This is simply an am nd eat of the definition of day care centers which now is restricted to child care facilities. It in true that the senior centers are a new kind of day care center, but the use permit is required with all the built-in safeguards the: have been -seated. The ordinance is not a new thin since day care centers are now permitted in R-1 genes. Councilman Eervald stated he would vote for the ordinance with some reluctaacs. Be knot: there was quite a campaign on in the state, and it was particularly active in this county, for opening up E-i areas for all sorts of adult facilities such as facilities for alcoholics, drug addicts, mentally disturbed adults, etc. While Councilman Bervald had no desire to withhold services from these groups, he thought that Palo Alto bad a lack of standard*, not only for adult day care centers, but for day care canters for children as well. A staff report . was expected soon on this matter, but there was no real Council determination its to too many there ought to be and in what areas they should be located. Councilman be wald thought there ought to be a review of the standards, and the line should be held someplace against the peolifer, att of non-residential uses. The ordinance ves approved for first reading ore the following votst AYES: Buhr*, Clays Carey, Comstock, Norton, Sher, Wi tber spoon NOS: lyerly 347 tkj7 10/2$/73 MOTION: Councilman Comstock introduced the following ordinance and sieved, seconded by Witherspcon, its adoption: ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL TEAR 1975-76 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR CONTRACT SERVICES WITH THE PALO ALTO AREA INFORMATION AND REFERRAL SERVICE and further moved that the Mayor be authorized to execute the agreement. Councilman Sher consented that this vas a request by a community organization for funding, during the coming fiscal year, at a time when Council has specifically decided to do something about the procedures for dealing with such requeets. The action has been to refer the entire scatter of requests for funding to the Policy and Procedures Committee for consideration. Councilman Sher noted that PAAIRS wasa worthwhile organization; and relatively speaking, the account of money involved is small. However, it was predictable that other orgenizetions would use this example as a precedent; and they did that the very same night the subject was first voted upon. He pointed cut that there was an editorial In the newspaper about the inconsistencies involved in referring the general ratter to the Committee and et the same time, approving city support of a new program. SUBSTITUTT'_- MOTION: Councilman Seer moved, seconded by Berweld, that consideration of support of PAAIRS be referred to the Policy and Procedures Committee for consideration with the review of procedures to be followed for city support of community organiratioue and social services. Phil Bliss, 555 Byron Street, President of the Board of Directors of PAAIRS, stated th t in approving the goat act, the city would be buyieg three things. One thing the city would be purchasing would be codification of all existing social services in the area. Secondly, the city would be obtaining a feedback system from the community. ?SAM receives about eight hundred telephone calls per month, and those indicate what the needs are in this area The third advantage was that the city wed be buying en evaluation component. An information referral agency in the area, funded by the city, could be followed up with the clients who wade the original contacts; 4441 this wed be a very good ,say to swaivate services. Siena!its up, gr. Bliss explained that PAAIRS was wt just a social service; and the city would be buying codification, feedback, and tbo potential for a really fine evaluation. Councilman Carey agreed that in terms of dollar allotment. the amount involved wan a drop in the bucket. No sold he voted for the allotment initially, but be had dog so with a great many reservations. Councilman Carey had noted Councilmem Shier and td's comments about the incoesisteacy of funding a program whoa Council heed decided to refer tbs entire subject of funding all programa to the Policy and Procedures Committee for analysis, Earlier, critic respect to Project Nobility, Councilman Carey had expressed interest in whether or not that project was a nom or old program; sad he bed commented that be thought Council be4 trapped itself earlier, and tide is the project he had been reforisng to. The money van not such, but Councilman Carey thougbt Cowell arcs begt i to compound tabs felony it bad committed. It did sm. in his. opinions, at tore meeting Ade CoomciI taraaad down the request of two other social *ponies for monetary funding a* an "in lieu" payment of what a previous Council bad promise. Councilman Care, we resoles to space for Our Lola Coos snort the Resource Cater for Woes le the 014 Police/Mg Doilsiani. Uvulas doss the its of thee me esesciso wee tocessfsteut back t can■ritraest of "fit `� fir$. *0121/7S lieu" funding had been made by Council which was no longer available; and yet, Council was unwilling to convert specific space allotment into dollars. Those two agencies, unlike PAAIRS, had already received a previous commitment from Council. Councilman Carey considered his initial vote in favor of funding PAAIRS a mistake, and he felt it was time to rectify that error. He stated he would support Councilman Sher's motion. Councilwoman Witherspoon referred to the fact that the word "precedent" was being used in this case. It has been said that by considering the PAAIRS proposed Council was setting a precedent. Oa the contrary, Councilwoman Witherspoon thought Council was not petting precedent but following it. The city has in the past, and at the present time, contracted for services from outside agencies that have expertise beyond that of the city staff in special areas; for example, lfidpeninseula Citizens for Fair Housing and the Senior Coordinating Council. Furthermore, new ground was not being plowed here in an area that was totally unrelated to services previously or usually provided by the city. City staff provided a limited information referral service before the establishment of PAIRS but deferred to PAAIRS after it came into existence. Speaking to the word "inconsistent", Couecilwoman Witherspoon noted that Council had been accused of being inconsistent in considering the PAAIRS proposal. while not being willing to consider funding Our Health Center and the Resource Center for Women; but when you consider that information refertaI is a service once provided by the city which tt would have to resume if PAAIRS expires (end this is a service used by Our Health Service and the Resource Center for Women as well), then Councilwoman Witherspoon did not think the service was a totally new one or that it was inconsistent for the city to consider continu thg the service or assuring its continuance. She explained there was no intent to bypass the seen to be established procedure for evaluation of funding requests, and PAAIRS would be going through that procedure. Councilwoman Witherspoon stated she was very glad that this discussion head come up because it had focused attention on the need and urgency for developing such procedures. Vice Magyar Clay referred to the minutes of the Council greeting of September 22 and specifically to as question Councilman Zerwald asked of City Manager George Sipel as to whether CETA would allow fps to be diverted to private organizations which petforned community services, Mr. •Sipei's response was that staff had looked into that poasibi.lity, and there were several conditions under which that could happen. Vice Mayor Clay asked Mr. Sigel to elaborate on that comment. Mk. Sipal responded that at the recent Finance and Public Works Committee meting, some recommendations were made in regard to this specific subject and if accepted by Council these recommendations not permit staff to utilize CETA employees in private organisations which performed community services. Councilman Fyeriy did not want to think that Council had to be totally inflexible. Sis feeling was that if the city did not fund PAAIRS, that organization would not be able to caxatiuue; and in the end, the city would spend more money providing a referral service than it would had it gone ahead with funding PAAIRS. MSayor Horton remarked that of the many social progra a Council had funded, PAAIRS was one of the roost appealing dollar -wise for the reasons given by Mac. Bliss. Councilman Carey, responding to Councilman Ryat ly's remarks, said that it was Councilman Eyarly's motion that resulted in the policy of referring elm Ouch requests to the Policy and Procedures Committee; 349 10/21/75 therefore, it was not a question of being rigid or inflexible, but a matter of following decided policy. Had it not been for Councilman Eyerly's motion, these requests would be considered individually by Council. In Councilman Carey's opinion, Council should not even discuss whether PAAIHS wee a good or bad program, but should stay with the policy decision and refer the matter to Committee. The substitute motion failed on the following vote: AYES: Berwald, Carey, Clay, Sher NOES: Comstock, Eyerly, Norton, Witherspoon MOTION: Councilman Comstock moved, seconded by Berwald, that the Council meeting of November 3 be cancelled and that this meting be adjourned to 7:30 p.m., November 10, with item six appearing first on the agenda at which times the ardiaarace and authorization of the agreement (moved by CometockiEysrly) would bs before Council. The motion to adjourn to 7;30 p.m. on November 10 passed on a unanimous vote. ADJOIMMBNT The meeting of October 28: 1975 adjourned at midnight to 7133 p.m., November 10, 1975. ,TIEST: APP OVE: 33Q 10i2*i73 Mayor CITY COUNCIL MINUTCS' Adjourned Meeting October 28, 1975 not PAGE Palo Alto Area Information and Referral Services: Contract Welcome to American Field Service Students Prof eLt 71-63, California Avenue Parking Garage Feasibility Study: Award of Contract Ordinance re Stop Sign System Evaluation 1003-1011 Colorado Avenue, Tentative Subdivision Map Application of Scenic Land Propertfa6 Adjournment CITY o� PALO ALTO 362 356 357 359 361 Regular ? beting Nevamber 10, 1975 62 ITEM PAGE NI -mites of October 6, 1975 3 6 2 Oral Communications 3 6 2 Canvass of Results of Special Annexation Election, Barron Park 3 6 6 E1 Camino Park: Aunt to Park Dedication Ordingesre and Award of Construction Contract 3 6 3 Continuance of Linde of Meeting 3 6 7 Adjournment to Executive Session 3 6 7 Executive S.eeisi.on 3 6 7 Adjournment 3 6 7 351 / 11/10/73