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Speciel'Meeting
September 21, 1976
ITEM PAGE
Comprehensive Plan
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September 21, 1976
The City Council of the City of Palo Alto meton this date at 7:50 P.M.
in a Special Meeting adjourned from September 15, 1976, with Mayor Norton
presiding.
PRESENT: Beaters, Serwald, Carey (arrived 8:20 P.M.), Clay,
Comstock, Horton, Sher
ABSENT: Eyerly, Witherspoon
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
Mayor Norton said this special meeting is dedicated to completion of the
Comprehensive Plan public hearing and commencment of Council decisions on
the land use element of the Comprehensive Plan.
Councilman Sher said Stanford University is his employer. He has review-
ed with the City Attorney the communication received from the University
to determine whether there are any possible conflicts of interest in his
participating in motions that might be made in regard to those matters.
The City Attorney's office points out that, while all the regulations
have not been forthcoming from Sacramento, the general test for a con-
flict of interest is whether it is reasonably foreseeable that the de-
cision in question will have a material financial effect on a source of
income over $250, as 'well as whether these decisions would have amateri-
al effect on the University. The City Attorney advises that some of the
item probably would have en effect end that Mr. Sher ahoald not parti-
cipate in motions or decisions in regard to items 1, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11,
12, 14 and 16 of the August 31st letter from Mr. Augsburger of Stanford
University, That leaves him free to participate on items 2, 3, 4, a, 13,
15 and 17.
Bert Wilson said he has operated the Flamingo Motor Lodge at 3398 El
Camino for the past 13 years. It's a high quality motel with well main-
tained grounds and buildings that have been carefully developed over a
period of 20 years. It is completely compatible to nearby residential
areas. The Comprehensive Plan calls for a residential land use on the
rear of our property. If that is done, it is not possible to have a high
quality motel operation an the remaining half. To our knowl ed$e a this
is the only proposed line that divides an existing business. We request
that the residential zone start at our present property line and our pro-
perty be designated commercial.
Robert Augeburger, Vice President for Business 6 ?inane, Stanford Uni-
versity, said he is here to respond to ,questions to their written mater-
ial relative to designation of Stanford lands an the land use asp. The
previously submitted material reflects two major concerns. First is the
failure of the land use asp to recognize Stanford University end its
land in Palo Alto as a L aique pert Of or neighbor of the city and as be-
icg a very special institutional category: For example, the tendency in
the Plan is to categorize lends by their use, whether single -family -resi-
dential on Stanford land or elsewhere in Palo Alto, or industrial park
whether on Stanford land or elsewhere in Pilo Alto, wherea. Stanford's
view Ls that the University's lands are highly restricted end unique
facilities and developments that ultimately will revert to the University
and in which the University has a highly controlled interest. The second
area of concern is the open apace designation of those lends which the
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University considers as academic reserve. The University believes this
creates an unrealistic expectation on the part of the citizenry that
those lands will always remain in open apace, end it may influence zon-
ing in the county which would preclude legitimate uses of those lands
for academic -related purposes. The University has not.intention of any
intensive development for academic or other purposes for most of those
lands; however, we believe it necessary to reserve the right to do so
should the need or opportunity arise at some time in the future.
Councilman Beahrs said a large portion of Stanford land is currently
scheduled to be Open Spece..Controlled Development which is defined in
the proposed Comprehensive Plan. Maybe that's not as restrictive as you
fear. There will probably be a half dozen plans end elections before
this becomes a critical issue.
Mr. Augaburger said Stanford requests that land in the lower foothills
be designated Major Institution/Open Space. The expectation is that the
bulk of that land will remain in open space for a significant period of
time but Stanford needs to protect the rightto utilize it for academic
purposes. If any zoning that might emanate from the county, of if at
some time the land should be annexed to the city of Palo Alto, that
would place serious constraints on their use and that would be a denial
of what Stanford University is all about.
Robert Moss, 4010 Orme Street, said in regard to the E1 Camino study, he
would quote Mr. Knox's comments at the Finance & Public Wor{a meting on
May 20, 1976, regarding the Planning Department budget. 'Each year in
this process, I try to point out to the Council that se much as we try
to predict our worn program for the coming year, there are always new
assignments that cause unexpected additional work for us, A few of the
projects that required a significant amount of staff time during the
present fiscal year are..." and he lists eight of them including the San
Francisquito Creek trail plan, long terms versus interim improvements on
the Page Mill/Fl Camino interchange, removal of Park foulevard barriers.
Mr. Knox later discusses the impact on the department of cutting staff
both in terms of getting a fast response and the work load. If the El
Cam no study is done by a consultant, there will have to be sac* outside
funding. Several Couucila mbera have been generally opposed to employing
consultants. The merchants spent $35,000 for a study he doesn't think a
lot of. The idea Of a study should be deferred until the staff is able
to give it adequate attention, which means after the Plan itself is
adopted and the workload has dropped sufficiently to give this a thor-
ough examination.
Janet main, 4146 El Camino Real and 391 Curtner, asked that the highway
frontage between. Los Robles and Maybe l l on she south side of El Camino as
veil as the Townhouse Motel property be zoned commercial and the land use
nap should be attended. Commercial property is much more valuable than
residential. Under amortisation, mil businesses would have to find a-
nother location within time limits determined by the city. The presently
undeveloped Main property could not be sold as coaamorcial. Who could
object to an attractive business building with pleasant landscaping on
that property. It would be subject to city restrictions and approval.
A commercial strip would bring more revenue to the city. She didn't
understand the discrimination focused against this short strip of two
blocks without consideration of the owners and tenants involved.
Ions Brennan, 41.44 Wilkie Way, speaking on behalf of the Charleston -
Meadows Association, said they urge adoption of the laud use plan as pro-
ed B 1 Casino is a d isas to r to v is itors . It looks hanky - toak and not
like the rest of beautiful Palo Alto.
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Robert England, 3768 La Donna Avenue, Acting President, Barron Park Asso-
ciation, reinforced the Association's position as to adoption of the Com-
prehensive Plan as it stands. They oppose item No. 6 of Stanford's let-
ter to have the present land use designation of the former S.P. right-of-
way changed from public perk to single-family residential, The Associa-
tion has spent many years working on the planning of that park, and it
would only be proper to so des%gnate that for continued use as a park.
He noted, in ccmmenting on the Lest Council meeting, that members of the
Association, and the community at large, to the best of his knowledge,
have not engaged in any partisan politics. It has been quite corm for
people in this community, out of concern for their area, to turn out in
the hundreds. Previous Council's have complimented us on our concerns.
We don't need outside influences to have us stand and fight for what we
think is best for our area.
Councilman Beahrs said he had the impression that people in Barron Park
are not insistent that some of the rather severe changes required in this
Plan be instituted.
Mr. England said certain aspects of that plan disturb them somewhat.
They have proposed adoption as it is rather than have this opened up
again to years of debate and such severe modifications that it wouldn't
be recognizable.
Vice Mayor Clay asked him to elaborate on what things about the land use
plan disturbed him.
Mr. England said one concern regards the density of lands now proposed
in multiple -family adjacent to single-family on the west side of Goebel
Lane. This greatly disturbs Verdosa residents who back up to this pro-
perty. The Association urges Council to designate those multiple -family
lands at the low end of the density scale, -comparable to single-family
density, to protect the residents without completely revising the Plan.
Vice Mayor Clay asked if he reeteived a questionnaire distributed by con-
sultant Woollett in the El Camino area.
Hr. England said he had to go out and find a copy. He hasn't been able
to find any of their residents who acknowledge receipt of that question-
naire. He's concerned about the results and doesn't think it indicates
the desires of the people in their community.
Vice Mayor Clay said he has with him the 120 that were returned.
Councilman Sher asked if it would meet their concern if in the land use
element under the description of multiple -family residential, the sen-
tence that says "Densities will range from 10 to 45 units per acre,"
have added to it language to the effect that next to single-family resi-
dential the density should be low consistent with the adjacent sirsgl.-
family use.
Mr. England said, to the beat of his knowledge, that would be acceptable
to them.
Councilman 19erwald said during discussions several members of the Associa-
tion have spoken out rather strongly in dismay about the temerity of the
commercial land owners in cowing is with a plan at this late dote. It
is usually assumed that's just human -nature, but here the attitude seems
fairly firm. With that background, if the Council approves essentially
the present plan, do you think the present Barron Park Association posture
would oppose the city's pursuing a detailed design plan and, in an anal
review, considering the input of the El Casino commercial property steers?
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Mr. England said not at all; it is hoped that the Council would remain
open to all Viewpoints.
Councilman Berwald asked if they would be reluctant to join in a group
composed of residential end commercial interests on El Camino to carry
out such a planning study.
Mr, England said they would be very happy to engage in such studies but
strongly oppose using the Woollett plan as a cornerstone for any such
study. We would then have to undertake a cites study of our own and
that is beyond our means.
Councilman Berwald said he meant receiving it as input only.
Mr. England acid many are alarmed by the proposal on the trailer court
and he has alerted people there to the proposal.
Councilman Berwald asked if the Association wanted that area, if for any
reason abandoned, to be R-1 or low income housing,
Mr. England said they would advocate some form of houaing,hope.fully
reasonable housing at the low end of the density scale. He confirmed
Mr. Berwald's understanding that he waa not talking about just R-1 den-
sities.
Harold Jewett, 713 Flozales Drive, who lives adjacent to the Silva pro-
perty, said he strongly opposes rezoning that from Rel to multiple -
family, and would like to go to court if they do.
Donald Ganachow, 177 Bryant Street, property owner of the section west of
Goebel Lane, said the R -I and R -3-G zoning proposed and accepted for the
Yarkin property on the other side of Vista Avenue limits it to a height
of 14 feet at a 20 foot setback. In an R-1 zoning with some minor restric-
tions you can build within 14 feet of the property line to a height of 35
feet without any variance or special applications whatsoever. Also, the
Barron Park area has not as yet had a flood plain zone proposed for it,
and it has not yet been surveyed to determine what areas would be in that
zone. Taking this into consideration and given a height limitation of
15 feet at 21 feet from the property line and a 35$.low coverage limit, it
is very difficult to make a feasible project or do. ablithing without a lot
of res is tance . In buying a house, one looks at the neighborhood. The
price offered takes the neighborhood into consideration. In considering
the Comprehensive Plan, give some consideration to the fact that people
accepted the surroundings before they bought their houses. Give us
multiple -family so that ww'6an do something with'thb:property and have
reasonably priced units.
Denny Petrol ian, 443 Ventura Avenue, - sppaking for the Venture Neighbor-
hood Association, said the property owners' questionnaire was distributed
in our neighborhood without our blessing. The Association feels the re-
sults are not representative of our neighborhood especially in regard to
the proposal for a shopping center on the WeOler property. We second
Mr. England's comment that he did not want tae! IJoollett study mode a
cornerstone of any design undertaking.
Robert Debs, 3145 Flowers Lane agreed with Mr. England and other speakers
that the Plan should be adopted before a special study and before the next -
election. There have been deliberate attempts to bypass or evade the plan-
ning proem by evading the Planning Commission. The law forced on this
Council by petition initiative says that in adopting any or alt parts or
amendments or additions to the Comprehensive Plan the leegielative body
shall not make any change until it goes back'to the Planning Commission
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with a report on that change. Mr. Debs assumed that the El Camino study
committee would report to the Planning Commission. He hoped it does not
become a deliberate attempt to bypass the Commission set up to do long
range planning.
Mayor Norton said the staff has sssideously advised us from the outset
of this procedure that whatever the Council does is going back to the
Planning Commission for a 40 day deliberetioa period.
Council Reahrs said let's assume the Planning Commission says they don't
buy it and they send us something else, and the Council says change it.
Where do you stop this yo-yo performance?
Mr. Doba said the law is that the Council has the ultimate word end the
ultimate decision and, as the elected repreaentativea, the Council's
decision has to be it. After the Planning Commission has their review,
then the Council gets the Plan back end can do what you want to with it.
Howard Smith, 720 La Para Avenue, said he didn't return the merchants'
questionnaire because the questions were highly slanted. The question-
naire was not an adequate or well planned way of getting information un-
less one wanted to tell the people who answered what kind of information
one wanted back.
Councilman Comstock said the staff report (CMR.:444:6) dated September 20
euggesta a new program 21: "Allow existing apartment buildings in single--
family areas to continue and to be replaced in the event of destruction."
That addresses itself to both the University Avenue and the El Camino
areas. Did the Commission discuss this? The Commission's recommenda-
tion proposes change of use for some properties. For example, some people
have referred to property currently used as a motel which might ultimate-
ly be designated as partly residential and partly commercial. What does
the staff or Commission contemplate happening in this regard?
Planning Commission Chairman Steinberg paid the Commission had quite a
lot of discussion about this, not specifically in relation to downtown,
but generally. In the Commission minutes of February 11, Assistant City
Attorney Green said that the General Plan is intended to reflect the city's
planning and the desire for long term uses in the development of the land.
In other words, we are not saying that we must change right away but
through long term gradual change. We did not discuss the proposal dis-
cussed last week to put some of these uses into P -C's. We talked about
amortisation periods which might extend in a residentiAl none from 15 to
40 years. This would be done during the zoning process.
Director of Planning and Community Environment Knox discussed an illus-
tration of the downtown area to point out the problem when existing mul-
tiple family zones are cut back as is the case in several multiple -family
aroma throughout the city. On the map are a number of parcels shaded in
black. Therm would be more dense than would be allowed under the pro-
posed land use designation. In proposed single-family areas, nearly all
of the black square represent apartment buildings. We're faced with this
kind of alternative around the downtown, on El Casino, and in midtown
areas as well. If the Man proposes" to reduce the multiple -family zoned
areas eventually, then it must also reduce the multiple -family lead use
designation on the map. If that is done, some of those existing *pert-
inent buildings will wind up in single-family areas.
Mr. Knox said it would be appropriate to use Councilman Carey's sugges-
tion to provide a P -C zone for individual parcels, but unless the land
were designated for multiple -family in the Comprehensive Plan, it would
be very difficult to substantiate a multiple -family P -C zone in the
future. Then we would have to designate the area as multiple -family on
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this plan in order to be able to preserve the the existing multiple -
family uses. The staff's new program 21, steaming from Mr. Berweld's
suggestion, would allow existing apartment buildings in single-family
areas to continue in their present use and to be replaced in the event
of destruction; without saying it in so many words, this would insure
that they would not become -nonconforming. If they became nonconforming,
they would have insurance problems, and they would not be able to be re-
built, certainly in the event of major destruction.
in summing up, Mr. Knox said there are two alternatives, One is not to
have any nonconforming uses and leave the multiple -family designations
as they are in the 1963 Plan. Around downtown, the multiple -family areas
would go entirely to the creek and up to Middlefield and, on the south
side of downtown, they would go about a half block past Addison Avenue.
The other alternative is to pull back the multiple -family area and allow
those few apartment buildings that have been built in the proposed single-
family cone to remain there preserving the existing character of those
areas, Mr. Knox said his understanding of the Planning Commission's die -
moutons for the last year or so is that preservation of existing charac-
ter without further encr3acimeent• of these multiple -family uses would be'
not only tolerable, but desirable.
Council moan Comstock asked if, on certain parcels suggested for leas inten-
sive use, are we talking about amortization. The ultimate action is re-
zoning, and possibly rezoning with a long term amortigetion period.
Mr. Knox said he hesitated to use the word amortization because it has
some complex legal implications related to the code. Nonconformity and
amortization are different questions. Amortization allows a certain
period of time before removal of the building. Under nonconformity,
if nothing happens to the building, it can remain indefinitely.
Councilman Comstock asked the outcome if Council adepts the Planning
Commission's recommendation along El Camino. What happens to those pro-
perties? What are some different approaches available to them?
Mayor Norton summarized three possibilities including creation of non-
conforming uses which legally have the effect of leaving those uses in-
definitely unless a certain portion of the building is destroyed, in
which case, it would have to be rebuilt in accordance with the new or
then existing coning. The second alternative world be to create a cone
in which the status would not be nonconforming but would be permitted
to exist and to rebuild even if destroyed. That is kind of a grandfather
clause for uses which would otherwise be rendered nonconforming. A third
possibility would be to rezone it and then to put on a so -culled amorti-
sation period of up to 40 years after which the use would have to termi-
nate.
Councilman Sher confirmed with Mr. Knox that the approach in the Septem-
ber 20th staff report would result in Mr. Norton's second alternative of
making nonconforming the apartments in the area around downtown proposed
for single family.
Mr. Knot replied to Mr. Sher that the black squares in the proposed
multiple -family areas are commercial or office facilities which would be
nonconforming if the multiple -family designation were created. However,
most of those uses have been covered in Councilmen Byerly*s motion to
prevent further encroachment of offices in multiple -family cones. That
program, which has been approved by the Council, would sllbw existing
offices to remain and be rebuilt. Discussion in the meeting clarifies
that the intent is not only to peroit offices to remain in formerly resi-
dential buildings, but since those projarties hove alV* dy been used for
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offices, if someone wanted to rer'ove the residential buildings and re-
place theca with office, that would generally be okay. There was one
caveat. In some cases, offices are only acceptable because they are in
residential buildings which preserved the character of an area. In
those cases, a new office building might not be okay. The discussion is
being incorporated by the staff in the text associated with that program
so that will be clear in the Plan.
Councilman Sher confirmed with Mir. Knox that, when that is done, all of
those black designations in the proposed multiplezfa ily area will be re-
moved because they won't be nonconforming.
Councilman Sher confined with Mr. Knox that if there were to be any areas
around El Camino designated multiple -family and there were existing office
uses, the Eyerly motion would apply to them.
Councilman Sher said, if there was a desire to use this approach for other
existing uses that would be inconsistent with the land time plan, a new
program would be needed to describe the existing uses and the proposed
land use designation that they are intended to be allowed in.
Mr. Knox agreed that the:writing'of analogous prOgramis is one,poasi6itity.
Another possibility wcnjld be to look at the definition of the land use
categories on page 59 and determine whether that kind of proposal could
be incorporated in some of those definitions.
Councilman Sher said that means, for example, if the Cattery is regarded
as a permissible use, the definition of neighborhood commercial could be
expanded to allow catter,iea.
Mr. Knox said correct, and it was pointed out at an earlier meeting that
there is a discrepancy in that neighborhood'commercial is referred to in
two different ways. On page .59 of the Plan there is a definition of
neighborhood commercial and the Plan map utilizes that definition. There
is also a reference to neighborhood commercial in Employment Program 5,
page L9, that refers to a different neighborhood commercial specifically
in relation to El Camino. The neighborhood commercial that would be ap-
plied to El Casino is the one which would have some limited acceptable
service commercial added to it. It would have to be studied in the
future as to what is acceptable. That neighbcrheod limited service commer-
cial category is not now defined on page 59.
Councilman Sher said the categories the Planning Commission has recommend-
ed are neighborhood commercial and service commercial. At some future date
there may be a zoning recommendation which is something different that
would combine those two on particular parcels of property, but there is
no suggestion now from the Planning Commission for a land use designation
with the combination.
Mr. Knox replied that was correct.
Mr. Dohs said the Loma Vista/Middlefield area in which he lives has non-
residential saes that are being amortised out. We have fought for that
area.
Mayor Norton said there Ls no suggestion to change anything in that area.
MOTION CARRIED: Mayor Norton moved, seconded by Comstock, to close the
public hearing on the Comprehensive Plan. The motion carried 6 to 0
(Councilmembers Eyerly Witherspoon arm Carey absent).
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Councilman Berwald said his question on September 15th .pas about the
future of existing apartment buildings in areas which are now zoned
multiple -family and which are designated single-family. He interest in
asking that question was the desirability he saw in a certain diversity
in residential zones. The Housing Corporation and the Planning Comnis-
aion have telked about how nice it would be if we could get some low/
moderate income housing and some duplexes in an R -1 zone where people
could split the cost of a home, Re is also concerned about deter.idration
over time because of an amortisation regulation which discourages improve-
ment. This goes for' both residential and commercial, whether it's an
apartment house or a motel. If it's nonconforming, that means that that
property in its present use cannot be sold if somebody hes to sell for
some economic reason. Unless buildings are disharmonious with their sur-
roundings, they should be allowed. Can we be selective in looking at
that map in applying Program 21 to allow existint buildings to continue
and to be replaced in the event of destruction? Can we be selective in
order to take cognizance of those non -R-1 uses that are totally and
grossly offensive to adjacent residential uses, and require that they
be brought up to a level to protect adjacent uses?
Mr. Knox said he thought they could be selective depending an the kind
of ordinance mechanism that is eventually used. If you don't want to be
selective, we could create an R-1 zone that covered most of those parcels
and allowed existing multiple -family dwellings )et didn't allow new ones.
This could work in much the same way that the R-4 zone allows existing
offices, but doesn't allow conversion of residentially used sites to of-
fices. That would blanket most of them in and the zone line could be
drawn in somewhat selectively. If the mechanism to support this program
were to revise the nonconformity descriptions and paragraphs in the code,
that would then apply to all of them and it would not be selective.
Councilman Berwald said the revised nonconformity regulations could
probably insist upon any replacement or any modification being less
dense or removing some of the offensive situations.
Mr. Knox said that's something we could atudy. Staff thought it impor-
tant to bring up this new program now, even though it's a housing program,
because it will affect Council's decisions -On .how the .lines ire drawn -en
the map, This program Could be put in the land use element by adding it
to a definition of single-family. Staff has been working on the basis
of trying to minimize the number of nonconforming parcels. There's no
problem with P -C zones.
Councilman Berwald said he assumed we can be similarly selective`in the
cons ercial areas, specifically El Camino. If that is true, can we avoid
approving a land use plan that would create a number of nonconforming
uses when and Uwe we have completed the El Camino design study that we
have talked about after approval of the land use nap?
Mr. Knox said there is a difference in intent in talking about allowing
offices around downtown and in allowing multiple -family dwellings in
single-family areas around downtown as opposed to allowing commercial
uses in what might become tt+siltiple-family zones along El Cassino between
Los Robles and Haybell. The plan for the area around the downtown is to
preserve its character, to prevent further construction of offices in
multiple family zones, and to prevent further construction of multiple -
family dwellings in single-family zones, but it's to allow those that
are there to exist. Mt. Knox believed the intent along El Camino, as
he's heard it expressed, is to not preserve what's there but to change
the character of the area. That would not require the sane kind of tool.
On E1 Camino you would ueht to come up with a new zone that allows
specific uses foin4 to be acceptsb;.e and a: size the other uses on a
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set schedule. That is the way to foster change in that area. People
have said a medical equipment facility on El Camino is okay. They have
said a furniture store is okay. Those uses are not allowed in neighbor-
hood commercial. If you create either a new neighborhbod commercial "
lend use designation or indicate that a new neighborhood commercial zone
is to be designated as in Employment Program 5, then we can get specific
about which of those El Camino uses would be allowed in the new zone or
the new designation.
Councilman Berwald said Let's take a small motel, well maintained and
well landscaped, with a new addition on it, and before _a design study,
we pass a land use plan that makes this nonconforming. It'doeen,Rt seem
to be in line with justice. Until that design study is made, he said
he is going to think more than twice about taking any piece of property
and, in one fell swoop, making it nonconforming. There may be some pro-
perties so grossly disharmonious to an area theyehouidi be got rid of,
but we ought to be selective. That's where we're getting into problems.
Mx. Knox said the selection of the designation, let's say multiple -family
along El Camino, will have different effects on different properties. If
the motel at the corner of Maybell and El Camino is designated as multiple -
family on the plan map, it does not become nonconforming until the rezoning
occurs, and the rezoning undoubtedly will not occur unless there is an
initiative of the Plat ing Commission to bring all zones into conformity
with the plan, or finless the zoning ordinance is completed and the new
zones are prepared. What happens to the Townhouse Motel then is that
they can't build on an addition because we would not be able to find that
that addition is in conformity with the master plan, but on the other
hand their existing motel would not become nonconforming because they
are in a P -C zone: The Alfinito property, which is in an R-1 zone be-
cause it came in with Barron Park, is in a different situation. That is
nonconforming right now. Another situation occurs, for instance, on the
vacant Thain property in which a portion is zoned C-3. The City Attorney
would have to review this and Mr. Knox said he didn't have an answer
as to what could be allowed on a piece of vacant property zoned C-3 but
which is designated multiple -family on the plan map.
Councilman Carey said that from a general lend use policy standpoint,
he doesn't agree that a Comprehensitre Placi change in land use designation
has no effect on the property until the Planning Commission rezones that
property. Setting a policy for an area and then conforming the land use
map to the policy starts a passe that leads to either modification of
the existing zoning or new zoning. Mr. Carey,said he's also very uncom-
fortable with the concept of amortization periods. That has a substantial
effect on the value of improved real property. We can take a 30 -year
amortization on buildings for tax purposes, but the fact is that those
buildings exist far longer than 30 years --60 and 70 years is not uncommon.
lo give a building with a true life of 50 or 60 years a L5 -year amortisa-
tion has a significant effect on value. We need to distinguish between
the amortization of uses and the amortization of buildings. If, for
example, on El Camin° there is a building which is occupied by a tenant
whose use is incompatible, it's one thing to amortize out that particular
use and leave the owner free to re -rent the building for compatible re-
tail rises. It's another thing to take an apartment house and say that
use mast be amortized because, if the goal is to obtain detached single-
family, you are amortizing the building. We need to make that distinc-
tion. In the former case, it's fair and equitable, but in the tatter
case, you are taking the building away. Further, a distinction should be
made between improved and unimproved property. The change in isad use
designation and zoning, in his opinion, does not have nearly the disas-
trous effect an the owner of unimproved land as a change with respect to
improved property. We have before us at least three pieces of improved
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property which, if we follow the recommendation, will become nonconform-
ing --the dental building on Middlefield and University, the Tachibana
apartments on Waverley, the Townhouse Motel on El Camino and Maybell.
Unless we find some means to preserve the right of the owner to continue
that use literally forever, what is proposed involves a detrimental ef-
fect on that property owner. In soiree cases, the limitation on use be-
cause of the building's nature may be so incompatible with the surround-
ing area that the use ought to be amortized and the building got rid of,
but that situation didn't fit the examples he's cited. The Waverley
apartment lot is narrow and extremely deep. It would be very difficult
to use that site for R -I. It's a first rate apartment building and it's
compatible with the neighborhood. If we're going to talk amortization,
we're going to have to go through property by property and make those
distinctions. The desire to not have what amounts to spot zoning is
understandable, as well as the staff and the Planning Commission trying
to get fairly contiguous land use boundaries. If we were starting a
brand new city, it would be easy and logical to do, but that is not the
case here. Polo Alto is essentially developed, so it's extremely diffi-
cult, if not impossible, to end up with a Comprehensive Plan land use map
that does not, in effect, eliminate what is commonly known as spot zoning.
We are not spot zoning, because it is not that we are changing a permitted
use to something different from the surrounding area. The converse is
taw. We are allowing an existing use to continue because it's already
there, end that is the distinction. One of the effects of trying to
achieve the ultimate goal of land uses that are contiguous without spot
zoning in Palo Alto would be a substa►itial reduction in the housing
stock. Development of detached Riq housing and eliminstios of high
density apartments ir.nredominantly single-family residential areas is
diametrically opposed to a concept of additional housing at below market
prices,
With respect to the R -3-P area. Mr. Carey said we have office uses in
structures that appear to be residential, and because they appear to be
that way, they tend to be compatible with the neighborhood. If one
burned down and somebody put up en office that looked like an office,
that might not be acceptable. That's why last week he suggested co--
eideriag s P -C zone where these so-called nonconforming uses can exist.
This would allow us to maintain control of setbacks, architecture, height,
and so on. To do otherwise would get into the amortization and rebuild-
ing probl.a that now exist.
Councilmen Aeahra said it occurs to him that in struggling to have equity
and thus creating exceptions, we might destroy the integrity of the Plan
and the zoning philosophy of the community, As Hr. Debs said earlier,
the Loma Verde people are firmly on notice that they are to be amortized.
Night we destroy the integrity of that situation to the point that they
can come back and say they want equal treatment with other non-residential
areas?
Mr. Knox said in the Lose Verde situation it's clear in the code that
that is a special amortization area. That would not be modified by any-
thing we are doing on the Plen. If you were to say that multiple -family
areas would allow exias t ing commercial uses that exist as of the date of
this Plan, then you might be setting up some kind of dilemma about Loma
Verde, but you ere not doing that. You are talking about allowing offices.
In the Loma Verde situation, those are not office buildings; they are com-
mercial and light industrial uses. The St -3.P and R-4 zones allow offices
for doctors and dentists. If the dental building on University Avenue
falls in the category of dentists's offices, then allowing offices that
exist as of this date to continue in multiple-fearily zones would permit
them as well as all of the other office uses.
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MOTION: Mayor Norton moved, seconded by Comstock, that the Land Use Map
anu Chapter 8 as presented by the Planning Commission be approved. That
motion will entertain amendments after the recess.
(Recess: 9:30 P.M. to 9:52 P.M.)
Councilman Carey said it seems the Council should not take up individual
nonconforming properties on s piece -by -piece basis and try to woke judg-
ments as to whether they should receive treatment different from the over-
all land use map;, It should be the Planning Commission's responsibility
to reaiew those parcels and properties after the adoption of the land use
map.
AMENDMENT TO TEE MUTTON: Councilman Carey moved, seconded by Berwald,
that a paragraph under "Implementation of the Plan Map" provide that
where the improved properties are not in conformance with the land use
asap, the Planning Commission review those properties and make a recom-
mendation to the Council applying the following standards: (I) Where
the improvement is capable of being used by mere than one use and the
current use is eubatantially incompatible with the surrounding area,
that an amortization period be considered to ultimately eliminate that
use and to provide for alternate uses compatible with the area. (2)
Where the improvement does not lend itself to more than one use, that
a determination be made as to whether that improvement and that use is
grossly incompatible with the surrounding area and, if so, an amorti-
zation period be applied to that property, and if not, that a recom-
mendation he made that the land use map be changed with respect to that
property to conform with the existing ule. Then either a P-C,(or other
type of zoning which will result in city review of any modifications
or replacement of the improvement) will be made.
Councilman Carey said he primarily had in mind the R -3-P where we may
want to preserve the R-1 exterior look even though' the use may be dif-
ferent. If a use is incompatible with the neighborhood, then you look
at amortization. If, for example, a retail building is being used for a
muffler shop, the Planning Commission may determine that use is incom-
patible with the surrounding area and they would then determine whether
that improvement Ls capable of taking an alternate use, and if so, they
amortize the use but retain the building and look at compatible alternate
uses that. would be allowable. to the other hand, if it's an apartment
building, it can only be used for apartments, and therefore the use and
the building would be looked at to determine whether it is grossly out of
place with the surrounding area. if it isn't, it should be allowed to
continue. The Planning Commission should look at every individ al parcel --
those spots on the Planning Department's nap --and came back to us. The
Council would then be able to deal with the land use map in just a broad
brush sense tonight.
Mayor Norton confirmed with Mr. Carey that none of this motion applies
on vacant land.
Councilman Sher asked, if the Planning Commission follows the procedure
and comes back to Council with a recommendation, and if the Council does
not accept it and changes it, does that have to go back to the Planning
Commission under the 40 -day procedure. We're giving them a further di-
rection to do something that they have not already done, and when it
comes back o Council, we will be looking at it for the first time. In
the second part of the motion regarding an improved building that does
not lend itself to more than one use, it was suggested the Commission
do two things, one of which related to,irhe lard use map and one of which
related to zoning, and the zoning is not part of the Land use process.
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Mr. Knox said this process would fit under "Iuap',ementation of the Plan
Map" in one of two ways. One way would be to include this kind of
language under "Implementation of the Plan Map" so that this process
would not take place within the upcoming 40 -day referral period to the
Planning Commission, but would take place within -some -longer period of
time (which the Council could specify) after Ngopt<.on of the Plan. That
would give the Planning Commission the time they would need to look at
such things as amortization. The land use map probably needu's be
changed in all cases, but assuming that there are some circumstances
where the land use map would be changed, the staff and Co niasion would
need at least six to twelve months to look at all those parcels and comp
back with recommendations.
Councilman Carey said that's a good point, it might be impossible to do
this in 40 days, and if so, he assumed Council would adopt a land use
map this year, and these would be changes in the land use map next year
as part of the annual review procesi.
Councilman Carey responded to Mr. Sher's question that parking lots are
improved property. He responded to another question that if a building
is capable of more than one use and the current use is compatible, the
goal would be to confine the use to that which is compatible; that it,
the change in land use designation should not result in allowing future
uses which would be incompatible with the neighborhood.
Mk. Knox said the motion would then be that (I) where improved proper-
ties are not in conformarwat with the land use map, the Planning Commis-
sion would review the properties over some specified period of time and
make recommendations to the City Council applying two sets of standards:
First, where the improvement is capable of more than one use and the cur-
rent use is incompatible, that use will be amortized, and an amortization
period will be established. If the use is compatible, then the use of
that building would be donfined to either the present use or to another
compatible use. Second, where the improvement is not capable of more
than one use, it would be determined if the use is incompatible, and if
so, the building and the use would be amortized. If the use is compatible,
then the land use map would be changed to conform with the existing use.
Any reference to a zoning procedure would be dropped from the motion.
AMENDMENT &ESTAT D, Councilman Carey agreed to the revised wording as
provided and summarized by Mr. Kaoz.
Mr. Knot responded toea quiatf 'Wt t 3b rslShno'iirObede gith'doing.'this
on a parcel -by -parcel approach. Such an approach would be in conformance
with the overall policy and intent of the plan.
Senior Asaatant City Attorney Norek-Tsketa said she didn't sea say parti-
cular legal problem with the motion as stated, although as the Commission
starts looking at particular properties, we may find some problesees.
Councilman man Comstock said the motion seems to have several advantages both
for us and for people who have expressed concern to ,u. beaer a number of
weeks. It sets in process as orderly way of shoving people who ere
concerned about specific prodirties to deal with those concerns. We then
cocee to grips with the general thrust of the land use map and the Plan,
the Commission goes through their 40eday process digesting and responding
to how we have dealt with the overall plan. and following that, a process
goes into motion which begtna to take up these kinds of coosiderstions
and all the Commission, staff, neighborhoods and property owners to
start dealing with these properties. Some may come forward sooner than
others because individuals may have development plans or questions, but
the process that operates is one that many pso;le have worked with, is
understood and will allow everyone to proceed. There is a lot of informa-
tion, knowledge and understanding the. Commission, staff, neighbors
and property owners can bring to bean in those kinds of forums. There is
no way all of us can anticipate on a lot -by -lot basis all the issues that
are involved. There may be properties where the best thing is to put a
P -C on it and this motion in no way forecloses that as one of a number of
alternative solutions,
Councilman Berwald asked if this motiol encompasses the one staff recom-
mended in the September 20 memorandum?
Mr. Knox said the Carey motion will allow unit deal withicbccmercial and
office properties. It's going to be a tremendous job and require a lot
of staff effort and a long period of time to look at all of the uses
inconsistent with the plan map. If the Council adopted the motion staff
recommended, that,would, in a way, blanket in the existing apartment
buildings, and if you wanted to include the trailer court, you could do
that, too. That would cut the number of ouch uses by more than half and
would simplify the task of the Planning Commission and the staff. It
would be desirable to have both the Carey motion and the motion in the
memo. They would be compatible and both would be needed.
Councilman Beahra said this motion puts the problem back on the track
but he didn't see that the motion accommodates the problem of parcels
where the plan map proposes a split between two uses. The integrity of
these parcels should be preserved for economic viability.
Councilman Carey agreed and said that at the proper time he planned to
speak to that issue, namely, to the extent possible we ought to follow
lot lines on our land use conclusions. That is another issue. He's trye
ing to deal with the land use map in the broadest context to the greatest
benefit to the city without getting deraiLed into wtarrjrirg about specific
properties which may well result in a revised land use map.
MOTION CARRIED: The motion carried or. a vote of 7 to 0 (Councilmembere
Eyerly and Witherspoon absent).
Councilman Berwald said he has consulted with staff on his proposed •
motion and understands it would allow appropriate apartment houses to
continue with selective future zoning or ordinance changes. It would
also lead to a possible later ameudment to the plan map to change the
trailer courts from multiple-faeaily, as now proposed, to singieefaemily. .
That is the reason he has included trailer courts.
AMENDMENT '1'0 THE MOTION: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Norton,
Program 21 to generally allow existing apartment buildings and trailer
courts to continue in single-family designated areas and to be replaced
in the event of destruction.
Mr. Knox auugested that be an added sentence under the definition of
single-family residential on page 59 rather than as a separate housing
program. That will allow dealing with it tonight since we're dealing
with land use .end n:ot housing.
Councilman Comstock said he sensed a little incompatibility between the
philosophical thrust of this motion and the one just passed. The one
passed had a certain number of conditions or caveats in it, It wasn't
just a blanket. There were some criteria, involved. If we Shrink the map
the way Mr. Knox talked about, we might say there are apartment houses
that should roman and there are some a*t ihoutdd't, and we ought to
allow some latitude for making ciseilar judgments for incompatSbility. •
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Is there anything in the motion offered which would not allow this same
sort of judgment process to operate, or something that wouldn't allow
it to operate? Would Mr. Berwald be amenable to making distinctions
in the motion?
Councilman Berwald said yes; *would stipulate that )0dgment process
as an understanding. He usedhthe word generally, and the explanatory
text would include the various .:onditions in the Carey motion, particu-
larly regarding apartment buildings that are not compatible or, for
instance, those which are an eyesore. Those conditions are not excluded.
Mr. Knox said the Carey motion speaks to all uses. By jasding this
motion, Council would allow staff to look a little bit differently at
the multiple -family apartment buildings that exist in single-family
zones. That language implicitly allows that, and you would not have
to duplicate that language, but stating „generally allow existing apart-
ment building in single-family areas to continue" undertthe eingle-
family residential designation allows the Planning Commission and staff
to deal with this aver a period of time, toelook at zoning aspects,
and to make a kind of selective review of the multi -family buildings.
The language in the staff report says allow --not generally allow. Then
you would be allowing multiple -family dwellings. The word generally
gives the flexibility needed to be selective in determining which of
these multiple -family buildings would be appropriate in the single-family
areas, and which ones would not.
Councilman Comstock said he's not satisfied with that answer. Some
apartment buildings are as big an effront to the adjoining residential
areas as are some commercial buildings to adjoining multiple -family
areas. He understood the motion intended to convey the same sort of
selection process referred to in Carey's motion.
Councilman Berwald said that is his express intention, and he would
suggest to staff that when they implement this direction they put words
in the text which will allow existing apartment buildings and trailer
courts that are not incompatible.
Councilman Sher said the Planning Commission proposal for the trailer
court cear El Camino is to zone that area multiple -family, so it would
not be covered by this motion which takes about trailer courts and
aingta-family, assuming that the land use map, as recommended by the
Planning Commission, were adopted. That worries him a little. Further,
a question wad raised by one apartment house property owner during the
intermission about the warding of this language allowing the buildings
to be replaced in the event of destruction. The question was, whet hap-
pens if the building has served its useful life, and the property owner
wants to construct another apartment building of the same type and di-
mensions. Is that excluded? That question is not answered by the warding
of the motion.
Mt. Knox said he understands there is a desire to maintain the trailer
court. If that is designated as multiple -family on the plan map --and
it Ls now soned g-1 having come in through Barron Park annexation --and
if the owners of the trailer court wish to build an apartmant.building,
they can cosm to the City Council and request a multiple -family zoning
based on an approved multiple -family tend use designation, wipe out the
trailer court, and build en apartmtnt, building. One way to preserve
the trailer court is to change the land use map to designate the trail-
er court as single family and change the definition of single-family,
as Mr. 3ervaald is suggesting, to allow existing trailer courts to re-
main Lu single-family areas. Language could be reworded to whatever
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Council's desire is in regard to apartment buildings in single-family
zones. If the building is worn out and becomes obsolescent and should
be replaced only by single-family if it's in a single-family area so es
to gradually change a spotty area back to single-family, you could state
that by saying that building; that are obsolescent or deteriorating may
not be replaced. That would also have the effect of seeing that the
property owners would maintain those buildings. If on the other hand, you
want the opportunity to have those multiple -family dwellings replaced by
multiple -family dwellings again in the future, you should leave the lan-
guage as it stands.
Councilman Berwald said the intent is to keel, the apartment houses in
good condition and nom allow them to deteriorate. On the other hand,
we'd like to see them revert to R--1 when they have served their useful-
ness.
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Norton,
to request staff to come up with language in the text that apartment
property be maintained and that improvements would be allowed through-
put tee building's reasonable lifetime.
Councilman Carey said in a sense it's a duplication of the motion just
passed which includes apartments. Why a separate direction to the Plan-
ning Commission? The criteria set up in his motion to determine whether
or not the structure or the use was incompatible to the neighborhood
should be equally applicable to apartments.
Mrs. Steinberg .said she realizes it will be an additional workload for
the Planning Department, but Mk. Carey's cation probably covers it, and
the Planning Commission will be able to judge whether an apartment use
is compatible with the neighborhood or not.
MOTION FAILED: The motion failed on a vote of 3 to 4 (Councilmember°s
Clay, Norton: and Berwald in favor; Sher, Carey, Beahra and Comstock op-
posed; Eyerly sod Witherspoon absent).
MOTION: Vice Mayor Clay moved, seconded by Beahrs, that any zoning be
done such that zone designations generally follow property lines. That
does under Implementation of the Plan Map.
Vice Mayor Clay said he would include common ownership. For example,
the Palo Alto Medical Research Foundation has both an Rat and R-4 sone
through the same building. Ha said he is also thinking about the parcels
of laud comprised of more than one lot. Consideration should be given
to having the same sonedeeignation given to the total parcel of land,
assuming it is under one ownership.
Mayor Norton said there are situations where land is currently split
between residential and commercial coning, and there's no reason to up -
zone the entire parcel to commercial. He suggested addition of language
to except lands previously in a more restrictive zone.
Vice Mayor Clay said he didn't went to get into more specifics.
Councilman Comstook said this motion is premature, and perhaps not re-
quired. We can all think of specific properties where the map presents
an apparent problem. Remember that the mop is not the atoning change,
but an indication of an intent to plan. Zoning changes on these parcels
will include review under the recently passed motion. When individual
properties that are split by two land use designations come before the
Commission sad Council, they can be dealt with on a case -by -case basis.
If we give blanket direction, we will run into the problem of a forced
cho ice .
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Councilman deahrs said he was confident of the Planning Commission's
wisdom to dispose of this problem, but they are entitled to an expres-
sion of Council's policy preference. He's as concerned for the future as
he is for existing situations. You can't do much planning for develop-
ment or improvements by restricting people to splintered properties.
Useful land areas have to be assembled before planning is going to im-
prove El Camino, for example. We should indicate to the general public
and the Planning COMMiasion that we ere favorably disposed to people • .
accumulating useful areas of land so something can be done.
Councilman Sher said the motion speaks to the zoning process. If the
land use designation cuts through a property in one ownership, that should
be ignored when it comes tine to putOng a zoning designation on it,
according to this motion. The question hasn't been addressed as to
whether it should be the Less intense or more intense zone. The motion
doesn't speak to the problem of people acquiring property because if
people start acquiring adjacent parcels in a different zone, they would
have to come in for a zone change.
Mayor Norton asked Mr. Clay if he would be willing to add "provided
that such a policy will not result in a more intensive use than the exist-
ing designation."
Vice Mayor Clay repeated that he didn't want to get that specific. It is
a policy statement that gives ge,'eral direction to the planning staff
and the Planning Commission to avoid having to deal with a large nuMber
of individual parcels on a parcel -by -parcel basis. Large parcels com-
prised of more than one legal lot tend to give greater opportunity for
effective planning irrespective of the land use designations that they
may have now. The Norton amendment presupposes that there is a land use
designation prior to the implementation of the land use tap.
Mayor Norton asked if he's talking about present zoning.
Vice Mayor Clay said his point is that present zoning may not be the
zoning that ends up if the land use plan map is implemented.
Mr. Knox said he has a problem with this motion if it doesn't say both
land use and zoning designations, If you don't handle the land use now
and you tell us that in the future zoning designations are to generally
follow property lines and recd nize common ownership, then we're going
to be faced with a situation in which the land use map may be adopted with
the back part of a property designated multiple -family because iti. present
zone is R-5 and the front part of the property is designated service. com-
mercial because its present zone is C-3. If you want to correct that, it
would be more appropriate to bay land use and zoning designations.
ADDITION TO THE MOTION: Vice. Mayor Clay said he would accept the staff
suggestion. The second concurred.
Councilman Sher said it eeesa that on properties like that you ought to
decide which way you went the designation to go --the front or the back
parcel.
Mayor Norton said he would vote against the motion, not because he dis-
agrees with the spirit, but he didn't want to make more intensive uses
than exist now. The motion might do that.
MOTION FAILED: The motion failed 2 to 4 (Caunc i laireabe rs lefts and Clay in
favor; Eerwald, Sher, Norton and Comstock opposed; Carey abstaining; and
Eyerly and Witherspoon absent) .
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AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION; Councilman Sher moved, seconded by Berwald,
the addition of language in the section, Definition of Land Use and
Roadway Categories, under the Multiple -family Residential, the last
sentence of_the first paragraph, after "Densities will range from 10 to
45 units per acre", that"next to Single-family residential areas, the
density should be on the lower end of the multiple -family scale consis-
tent with adjacent single family residential use."
Councilman Berwald asked if the motion would accept the same sort of
language for neighborhood commercial, regional comanuni 4y commercial, ser-
vice commercial, research office park, light industrial. In other words,
intensification of uce should be reduced adjacent to residential without
regard to whether the adjoining areas are multiple -family or industrial
or commercial. Where light industrial is close to apartments, there
should be some planting, screening, noise abatement, and avoiding of
shadows over living areas, and so on.
Mr. Knox said he saw no problems with that. It's appropriate for the
land use element. That would mean that in establishing the zoning cate-
gories that come later, the Planning Commission would be choosing lower
density multiple -family zones to be placed adjacent to single family
areas and they would be choosing lower density industrial zones to be
placed adjacent to multiple -family areas, for example.
Councilman Berwald said a very intense use ought to be placed as far
away on the lot as possible if it's next to a residential zone. There
ought to be a kited of interface or transitional screening and planting.
It doesn't include an already existing use where someone builds a resi-
dential area next door. There's not much you can do about that.
Councilman Sher said that doesn't mean automatically changing the zone
next to it. Next to a single-family residential, you might have multiple -
family of 20 units per acre. On that parcel, you could keep the lowest
density next to R-1 and move higher as you move away from the R-1 so the
overall density on that parcel could still work out to be 20 units per
acre.
Councilman Carey said he has some trouble with "lower end of the scale"
without distinguishing between R-1 and Lytton Garden for example. If
you say densities will range from 10 to 43 units per acre, the exact
density then shall be determined by and be compatible with the adjacent
land uses, the goal being that the multiple -family residential land den-
sity shall be usiad se a transitional zone from high intensity uses to low
intensity uses,.
Councilman Comstock said he hoped they don't stop at that ,tint because
putting multi/At-family re* identlal between R-1 and commercial may be
a lousy buffer if the multiple -family residential that abuts the R-1 is
six stories. He understood the motion contemplates not only judicious
use of zoning but a great deal of care in the use of heights and set-
backs. Next to Lytton Gardens, we wouldn't want to put a five story
commercial building with a blank cement wall for people to look at. He's
assuming the motion contemplates and staff understands that we are talk-
ing about a variety of techniques, not just density.
MOTION CARRIED: The motion carried on a vote of 7 to 0 (Councilmeembers
Ryerly and Witherspoon absent),
Mayor Norton said some of Stanford's requests are rather specific. No. 1
is Stanford's request for a new category designation of Major Institution/'
Multi -Family Residential, the retiomi a being to show that some lands have
a unique character in that they are institutionally oriented and limited.
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Frenchman's Terrace occupants woUldIe, in first priority, Stanford sta€fe
secondly employees in the offices or plants located on leased Stanford
land; and then -the general public. The partial purpose of the housing
is institution -related. The land use is not ih the same category for
example as that of Oak Creek Apartments where no sped fications on oca
cupancies exist.
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION: Councilmen Berwald moved, seconded by Norton,
that the Frenchmen's Terrace area be designated Major Institution/Multiple-
Family Residential.
Mayor Norton replied to Councilman 5her's question that no Council action
is being changed as it relates to the HUD grant application on French
msn'a Terrace.
Mr. Knox agreed with the Mayor that the P -C for a 225 unit development
on Peter Coutts Hill with s certain proportion of low and moderate in-
come housing and certain priorities for Stanford -affiliated people would
not in any way change with this designation.
MOTION CARRIED: The motion carried 7 to 0 (Councilmembers Eyerly and
Witherspoon absent) .
Councilman Berwald suggested that the plan text acknowledge that the
designation is for development meeting the low/moderate housing objectives
of thre prezoning. Page 3 of the staff letter of Septembers 13 says stlff
doesn't object to the change but suggeetathat the plan text acknowledge
the criteria that was used in the prezoning. Does the Council wish to
change the text in context of action we have just taken?
Mayor Norton said nothing in their, presentation suggests they want to
emphasize that. There is no hint that in the area across Willow Road
they are going to put in low/moderate income housing.
Councilman Berwald said, since there are some questions about density for
the adjacent area, he's not gotug to make that motion. He assumed Stan-
ford would come back to make any changes from the prezoned approved plan.
This would require public hearings and environmental impact analysis.
ADDITION TO THE POTION: Councilman Berwald included Mr. Knox's sugges-
tion to define Major Institution/Mul.tiple*Fsamaity Residential "Multiple
family areas where the occupancy of the units is significantly or totally
limited to individuals and/or families affiliated with the institution".
MOTI( iC RIE➢: The motion carried 7 to 0 (Councilrsembers Eyerly and
Witherspoon absent) .
ANT TO THE MOTION CARRIED: Mayer Norton moved, seconded by Serwald,
that Escondido Village be redesignated Major Institution/44,044 Facilities.
The motion carried 7 to 0 (Councilmembers Eeerly and Witherspoon absent) .
Mayor Horton said Stanford also requests that the Open Space designation
be tedrevn to exclude the athletic facilities and to coincide with Area A
of the county's "Lee" zoning policy.
Mr. Knox said staff agrees with only part of the requested change. Stan-
ford is proposing to shrink the Open Spar+ce...Controlled Development area
so all that's left in open space conforms with the designation of Ara. A.
This would change to Major Institution/Special Facilities` the urea °adjs-
cent to Palm Drive between Arboretum aa4 awpus Drive. From the staff
view, that should remain arboretum sun space. The City Attorney feel
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that since the southerly portion of the proposed change is basically
stadium and athletic facilities, it would be appropriate to designate
those as Major lnstitution/Speciel Facilities, but that if we venture
further northward and take the area from Galvez to Quarry Road and from
Arboretum to Campus Drive and take that forested area which includes the
mausoleum and designate that as Major Institution/Special Facilities, and
not as Open Space...Controlled Development, then we are perhaps venturing
too far into a change of the Open Space Element. Our advice is to com-
promise here and change the athletic facilities area which is described
on page 4 of the September 13th staff memo,
Vic6, Mayor Clay requested for clarity that the motion parts be voted on
separately --the Stanford section and the staff recommendation.
Mayer Norton agreed to vote for the staff's recommendation first. If
that fails, we will vote on the other.
MOTION CARRIED: Mayor Floc ton moved, seconded by Beshrs, to move the
staff recommendation to change from Open Space....Controlled Development
to Major Institution/Special Facilities, the area adjacent to Galvez
Street and Campus Drive including the Stadium, Maple's Pavilion, DeGuerre
pools and other athletic facilities, while retaining the Arboretum area
west of Calves in the Open Space...Controlled Development category*.
They motion carried on a vote of 4 to 2 (Cour,cilmembera Carey, Norton,
Comstock and Berwatd in favor; Beahrs and Clay opposed; Sher not parti-
cipating; and Fyerly and Witherspoon absent).
During discussion, Mr. Knox pointed out that the definition of Major
Institution/Multiple Family Residential did not carry any density with
it the way that designation does on page 59. You could instruct us
to put the Major Institution/Multiple-Family Residential category under
Multiple -Family Residential in the text on page 59.
)TI( DIED: Councilman Berwald moved the staff statement. The motion
died for lack of a second.
MOTION CARRIED: Councilman Comstock moved, seconded by Norton, the
September 2nd staff report suggestion that on page 59, the definition of
School District Lands be revised to read "properties owned or leased
by or to public school districts and used for educ ed, recreational,
or other non-commercial, non -industrial purposes." The motion carried
on a vote of 7 to 0 (Cot cilm tubers Eyerly and Witherspoon absent) .
Councilmen Lierwa1d asked staff to cent on the difference between Major
Institution/Open Space and Open Space (Controlled Development. That re-
lates to Stanford's request No. 17.
Mr. Knox said the staff memorandum said that Stanford`s items No. 1, 7,
8, 9, l0, Ii, 12, 14, 16 and 17 all related to and would revise the Open
Space Element and,, with the sole exception of item No. 1, we strongly
recommend that those changes not be approved.. Council has now dealt
with No. I.
Councilman 9.rvatd said it seems to him ft merely recognizes that a pri-
vats nom -profit educational institution controls that open spade, and it
seems to be even more strict in some ways then.the present designation
which is controlled development.
Mr. KOOK said Mac. Augsburg''. may have misspoken tonight when he said
they were proposing the category of Major Institution/Open Space for
Ares 10, which extends as far as Araa tradero Road. In their August 31st
letter, Stanford applied that t�9s,or Institution/fin Space category only
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eo Area 17. Other areas, including No. 10, they called Major Institution/
Special Facilities which would give them all of the flexibility from the
land use designation standpoint that they have on the main academic; campus.
The effect of adopting the request Stanford is making would be to take
this large area west of Juniper° Serra Boulevard in the foothills and say
that,ae far :as this City Council is concerned, Stanford can develop that
in the same way they developed the min camps. That's different from
the City Council's present policy in the Open Space Element which says
that everything west of Juniper° Serra Boulevard is Open Spacer. Controlled
Development on which eo a uses are allowed provided that the major open
space characteristics and amenities are retained. It's for that reason
staff strongly recommends against changing that,
Councilman Berweld said the new category on Item 17 of Stanford's memoran-
dum doesn't change it in that way. it changes it to Major Institution/
Open Space. It recognises the fact that Stanford is voluntarily keeping
that under open space and there's no plans to develop.
Mr. Knox said he saw no problem with adding in half of Area No. 1 which
the Council just approved and Area 17 and calling them, Major' Institistisn/
Open Space instead of Open Space: -.-Controlled Development. Staff's ob-
jection is with changing the designation in the foothills from Open Space:..
Controlled Development to Major Institution/Special Facilities.
MOTION: Councilman Be:rwald moved, seconded by Clay, to add s new category
Major institution/Open Space, to be applied in Area 17 as requested in
the Stanford letter, and half of No. 1 that was approved.
Mr. Knox said staff would have to work out the definition based on com-
ments just made plus the comments on page 6 of the Stanford memo which
relate to "certain land use restrictions, preserves open space along
El Camino frontage, and preserves the area's identity as academic land".
Councilman Cstnatock said he failed to see the distinction between that
and, for. example, Stanford's Area 3.0. All that land is owned by Stanford
and very little of it is within the political jurisdiction of Palo Alto.
We're saying that "were" it in Palo Alto's jurisdiction, there are cer-
tain classifications we would want to establish. That is the distinction
we're making with a separate definition here as opposed to lands on the
other side of Juniper° Serra?
Mr. Knox said Ltanford haas'indicattd that area near Et Camino will be a
combination of institutional facilities and open space. West of Juniiper°
Serra, Stanford was proposing to call it all Major Institution/Special
Pacilitiea. As far as city control, the Comprehensive Plan introductory
page 2 says "Adoption of this plan by City Council will not necessarily
commit Santa Clara County to use the policies and prograaras in the unin-
corporated areas. However, the city will use the plan as a basis for
reviewing projects in the unincorporated ares". Santa Clare County will
be revising their general plan and will be looking at our plan to bring
theirs into coo lorrmsmcs. They will also be revising their coning. So
what is adopted with respect to Stanford, even though it's outside the
cite limits, will have au impact upon what the cows adopts for Stanford.
Councilman Beaters said he is inclined to agree that the arguments in
respect to Ares A should extend to the lends westerly of JuMper° Serra.
Mayor Norton said, for the same reason, he is inclined to leave the area
alone.
Councilmen Sher said he will not particlpstb tbecauae he was advised not
to participate on No. 1, which is incorporated in part hero.
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MOTION FAILED: The motion failed 3 to 3 (Councilmembers Beahrs,
;lay and Berwald in favor; Carey, Norton and Comstock opposed; Sher
not participating; and Eyerly and Witherspoon absent).
Councilman Berwald said Stanford's request No. 3 proposes a change in
designation of the Row student housing areas from $ ing le Family Resi-
dential to Major Institution/Special Facilities since the area contains
15 buildings housing 40 to 50 students each, a structure containing aca-
demic offices, two duplexes housing faculty, and only four single family
residences.
MOTION CARRIED: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Clay, to change
"The Row" from Single Family to Major Institution/Sp#Waal Facilities.
The motion carried 7 to 0 (Couocilaas bees Eyerly and Witherspoon absent) .
MOTION CARRIED: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded •ly Clay, Stanford's
item 4 to change the faculty/staff housing portion of campus from Single -
Family to Major Institution/Single-Family Residential. The motion car-
ried on a vote of 7 to 0 (Councilmemlers Eyerly and Witherspoon absent).
MOTION CARRIED: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Beahrs, Stanford's
item 13 which is that the Searavi.11e block occupied by faculty/staff
housing have its land use designation changed from Major Institution!
Special Facilities to Major Institution/Single Family -Residential. The
motion carried on a vote of 7 to 0 (Councilmembers Eyerly and Wither-
spoon absent) .
Councilman Berwald said Stanford's item 6 to the single-family resi-
dential zoned land lease to the county for Bol Park expansion. Stanford
wants to preserve the residential designation. Is that one that staff
suggests we do not change?
Mr. Knox said that is correct. Mr. England talked about that earlier.
That is shown as a strip of park on the present land use map. It's an
extension of Bat Park all the way from the Varien property to the Ares-
tradero/Foothill intersection.
MOTION: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Clay, his earlier motion
that Stanford's item 15 (Willow Road parcel) be changed from Multiple -
Family Residential to Major Institution/Multiple-Family Residential.
Stanford ceya they're going to develop that chiefly for student, faculty
and staff housing.
Mayor Norton said this is the first time he's heard that piece of pro-
perty was going to be committed to this particular type of housing.
Mrs. Steinberg said when the Commission was looking at this, it was not
their understanding that the was was going to be reserved entirely for
Stanford.
Councilman Sher said he would not participate because if this develop-
ment should go forward it would involve a lot of money for his employer.
Councilman Comstock said the other changes we have :talked about were
item* that Council had taken some action on and where the Council had
jurisdictioeL The Planning Commission performed its function by indi-
cating the nature of development that we ought to plan for and the in-
tensity of it. We're being asked to prejudge another batch of complex
issues which isn't appropriates.
MOTION FAILED: The motion failed 3to 3 (Councils/embers Reeahrs, Clay
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and Berwald in favor; Carey, Norton and Comstock opposed; Sher not
participating; and Eyerly and Witherspoon absent).
Mayor Norton returned to the motion before them to approve the Land Use
Section of the Comprehensive Plan together with the Land Use mep as
modified.
Councilman Carey requested the City Clerk to show his non -participation
with respect to the El Camino portion of the Land.Tine map. The article
in the Palo Alto Times tonight omits several pertinent facts which might
lead one to the ccnclusion that debate and discussion on his pert had
occurred in previous meetings without consultation or the City Attorney's
office or any ruling on whether or not there was conflict. Such is not
the case, The City Attorney's office was fully informed throughout the
entire debate on the Comprahenaive Plan of any cosiflicts he thought he
had --even remotely. They were told several weeks ago that he owned no
property on El Camino, the firm owns no property on El Camino, they repre-
sent only two land ownees on El Camino who are attempting to sell pro-
perty (one is the forme ly proposed Midad Muffler site and the other is
property opposite Los Altos Avenue commonly known as the Ceaano property) .
Those two contracts were disclosed to the City Attorney's office several
weeks ago; and their ruling W33 that:, with respect to any specific land
use decisions on those properties, Mr. Carey should abstain.; with respect
to any question of a moratorium on El Camino he should abstain; and with
respect to any vote on the band use map having to do with overall land use
planning bn El Camino, there Wires no conflict. A vote on something other
than the entire El Camino land use map would have to be handled on an ad
hoc bash.
Senior Assistant City Attorney Norek-Taketa confirmed Mr. Careya's state-
ment.
Councilman Carey said the statement in the Palo Alto Times that the State
Fair Political Practices Commission has been caked to rule on this mat-
ter didn't go far enough because it didn't give the results of that
ruling. The City Attorney's conclusion and the State Commission's ruling
agreed that Mr. Carey has no conflict in voting on the entire land use
map as it reletea to El Camino because the motion before the Council re-
lates to the general overall land use plan of El Camino and not to the
specific properties. Also disclosed to the attorney and to the press was
the fact thet there ham been offers to purchase the property opposite
Los Altos Avenue, However, because of the omission in the Times article,
Mac. Carey said he will abstain from any vote on the EL Camino strip, des-
pite the rulings to the contrary. That is because he did not want to vote
or take any action which could be in any way misinterpreted as having
some preconceived bias or conflict,, however remote.
Vice Mayor Clay asked what it means if Council approves the land use map
before them with the specific parcels as shown,
Mr. Knox said if the Council.do+esn't accept any particular parcels,
those concerns should be raised tonight. You set adopting the Land use
plan es it, was forwarded to you by the Planning Commission plus the
changes made on the Stanford portion tonight with the enderetanding
thee, after the Plan has been adopted by the Planning Cometssion,; the
planning staff will look at improved parcels that would otherwise be-
coeoea nonconforming, and we would, according to the Carey motion, find
out in all zones whither the use was compatible or hot and whether the
building was compatible or. not. After the Plan is adopted, the land
use plan map would be adopted. In order for the Council to adopt any-
thing different from what has been proposed b ' the Planning Comaefssion,
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they must change the map and send it back to the Planning Commission for
their report within 40 days. In other words, if the Council adopts this
map, sends it back to the Planning Commission, and the Planning Commis-
sion doesn't like those changes, the Council can still adopt what they
sent back to them tonight, but the Council can't, after the. 40 day"aeview
period, say there are a couple of more things they would like to change.
If Council does that at that time, and they can do it, they then have to
send it back to the Planning Commission for a second time.
Vice Mayor Clay said that is the dilemma he discussed earlier when he
stated his reservation* with regard to having zoning lines run through
either single parcels or those parcels of land in common ownership. Some-
one maid it was premature to enter into such discussions at this time, and
he's now hear.in, that if the Council doesn't do it, they don't have anoth-
er opportunity. Along the El Camino strip, he has serious reservations
about the use of more than one zoning on commonly owned parcels of land.
We haven't explored the moat effective use of some of the larger parcels.
More flexibility is needed at this point. Mr. Clay said he'd vote against
the land use map even though generally in favor of it. We are being too
rigid in adopting it as he now understands it.
Councilman Beahrs said he's taken aback, too, because he understood from
all the discussions and motions that there would be a revision of these
split situations involving common ownership of a given parcel, particular-
ly in the El Camino area. He couldn't buy this unless that is done. He
didn't know how to accomplish it. There has already been too much splinter-
ing on El Camino as it is, and that's one reason it is almost in a state
of collapse. We have to have development on larger land areas. Two-bit
1890 lots are causing the trouble, and here we are nailing ourselves with
the whole program.
Mr. Knox said a motion still on the floor that is to be token up after the
land use element deals with the El Camino study. It would be possible,
after the conclusion of that study, however long it might take, to come
back and make a revision to the plan. The study would have to be reviewed
by the Planning Commission, sod the Planning Commission's recommendations
would have to be taken into account, but there are ways, once a plan has
bF adopted, of making amendments in view of changed conditioner. `here's
no reason why it can't be amended more than once a year if it's at the
conclusion of a new study which brings new information.
Mayor Norton confirmed with Mr. Knox that the revised text would be coming
back to the City Council before it is sent to the Planning Commission.
Mow bong would that take?
Mr. Knox said the Council will probably, at their September 27th meeting,
wrap up the items and eteff could run text revisions through the editor
of the original document and have it all back to the Council the last
week or two in October.
Councilman Comstock said if the map is adopted now we haven't answered the
concerns about split properties, but there will be plenty of opportunities
for these to be thrashed out. Mx. Carey's motion set the framework for
that to happen. The alternatives are rather stark. Let's vote for this
motion and retain the right to disagree on a parcel -by -parcel basis as
these issues arise. If the El Camino question fails, we don't have the
map and we don't really have a plan, and we will have to have another go at
it and be held up.
Councilman .eahrs said what you say doesn't work because we cannot some
except in accordance with the mop.
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Councilman Sher said it seems if the El Camino portion doesn't pass and
there is a vacuum, maybe it is better to try to deal with the specific
questions so that we can adopt a land use map which is a Comprehensive
Plan for the whole city. There's been a lot of confusion between zoning
and land use designations which split a parcel in common ownership.
There is always the possibility of changing the land use designation to
match whatever zoning is ultimately decided. It" hae''been pointed out
again and again that this document is subject to review and the Code re-
quires that it be reviewed periodically. The important thing is to tote
the first step and show the general direction end get a land use map with-
out any holes in it.
Councilman Bey:wald said he's not happy with all of the designations on the
land use map, particularly in the El Camino area, but he assumes that af-
ter the design study there will be some adjustments that might cake every-
body happy. For that reason and because this Plan to not cast in concrete,
he would vote for the motion.
Councilman Carey asked if the map colors are intended to be a precise
depth or to simply give a general concept of frontgge use for some in-
definable depth.
1r. Knox said it was intended to be specific. In the lower left corner
of the map is a statement that this map generally illustrates the land
use proposed by the Palo Alto Comprehensive Plan. The specific locations
of boundaries between proposed uses are shown on the map with a scale of
1 inch to 500 feet in the Palo Alto Planning Department. That large map
is posted on the wall of the Council Chambers, and that is the official
land use plan map. You are adopting that large map which is parcel. -
specific. In discussions with our consultant and the Planning Commission,
staff had the choice of doing a 1463 type plan which was general and had
curvilinear blobs of colors on the map: That gets you into trouble in
two ways. Each person's definition of where the line ends is different.
Secondly, although Palo Alto is a charter city and not necessarily ob-
ligated to have zoning conform 100% to our land use plan, there is a lot
of case law developing that indicates the wisdom of having the Comprehen-
sive Ulan and the zoning map in very close synchronization. So we have
elected to, in this process, make the land use plan very specific.
In response to Councilman Carry's questions, Mr. Knox said that in most
cases the map runs with the lot lines. On the El Camino area, there are
some cases where the decision was made not to run with lot lines because
of existing sutiations. There are city parcels and Stanford designations
which may not run on the lot lines as well.
Councilman Carey said the plan does follow lot lines on El Camino with a
couple of obvious exceptions, so the only problem then is where a shallow
parcel has another parcel behind it and maybe it ought to be deeper or
wider. But if thatsituation exists and the property is improved and the
use does not conform to the land use map, then our out is based on a
specific case review. So therefore we are simply reduced down to total-
ly unimproved property. Looking at it in the broad context, that is
a pretty minimal problem. T e couple of exceptions we are probably going
to be looking at in a year anvay.
Vice Mayor Clay said he is prepared to take another 2 or 3 months to get
a Plan that makes sense. As far as the rest of Palo Alto, excluding El
Casino, he bai no problems with that. If we send this map to the Planning
Commission as shown, they twill begin to dsatinete..that brown multiple -
family residential sone; there isn't anything else they can do. He said
he's going to vote against the El Camino portion.
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Councilman Beahrs suggested the whole thing be sent back to the Plan-
ning Commission to correct those particular uses that are creating the
problem and bring it back to the Council in revised form in a week or
two.
Councilman Berwald asked if there will be any zoning along El Camino
prior to the completion of the design study.
Mx. Knox concurred with Mayor Norton's recollection that there would be
none except vhet's allowed in the moratorium if it passes, which would
be P.C.
Councilman ferwald said that would resolve one of Mr. Clay's questions.
Regarding his concern about zoning changing in the middle of the lot,
could that be resolved by adopting a:;policy that any property where
zoning bisects the property would be zoned P -C in the plant
Mr. Knox said that is a possibility. In talking about the Traynor par-
cel on Charleston and El Camino, staff was concerned that the parcel was
being split into commercial and residential land use categories. If he
recalled Planning Commissioner Brenner's comment correctly, it was to
give en indication that a mined commercial -residential use was desired
which would lead toward a Planned,COmmbnity z,7'r!e accommodating those
two. What is proposed may have been in the mind of one or more of the
Planning Commissioners. Our present zoning doesn't allow an empty P -C
that would not have a:y designation. Our P -C requires a specific develop -
meat plan. Many of the El Camino splits presently exist and nothing is
going to change immediately, especially if a study and a moratorium is
involved.
MOTION CARRIED; Mayor Norton asked for a vote on the first part of the
motion with respect to approving the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map
and Section 8 text as modified as it relates to El Camino only. The
motion carried 4 to 2 to 1 (Councilmembers Sher, Norton, Comstock and
Berwald in favor; Beahrs and Clay opposed; Carey abstaining; end Eyerly
and Witherspoon absent) .
MOTION CARRIED: The notion to approve the Co preheneive Plan Land Use
Map and Section 8 text as modified for the rest of Palo Alto carried 7
to 0 (Councilmembers Eyerly end Witherspoon absent).
MOTION: Mayor Norton sued, seconded by Comstock, to direct staff to re-
vise the text of the Plan as may be necessary to reflect the actions taken
by the Council in ascending the policies and program, and also to change
the tone of the Plan to more positively reflect the contributions made by
the commercial and industrial sectors of the comity. In so modifying
the text, staff would be expected to take into account both the written
and oral remarks made by individual members of the Council during these
deliberations. Staff would then circulate a draft of any revisions to
individual Councilmembers; Councilmerabere would take three or four days
to aubiait reactions back to the staff; and staff would then prepare a
second revised draft text to be reviewed by the Council at an appropriate
Council meeting. All of this would be accomplished within a one or two
week period.
Councilman Sher said "more positively reflect the contributions wade by
the commercial sad business comity" suggests it is anti -business. Will
Mrs. Steinberg say if she regards the Plan as an anti -business document.
Mrs Steinberg said it was not into &ed to be an anti -business document.
The Commission tried to deal with the impacts of employment. These
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impacts were reflected in the policies proposed for transportation and
employment and also in the effect that increased employment has on
housing and on the parts of the Plan. That is what we intended, and
that is what the language reflects. It tries to mitigate some of the
impacts of increased employment in the city.
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Councilman Beahrs said the Plan is excellent and fair excepting for the
fact that is is minimal as far as the economic impact is concerned.
There seems to be no consideration of that, and this is a matter of con-
cern.
Mrs. Steinberg said all along the Commission asked for cost benefits
on all programs talked about and has been informed that it would be im-
possible for us to have cost benefits because the cost to the city
would be too great to request the staff or consultants for that work.
Mayor Norton offered the motion without reference to the words "to more
positively relec.t the contributions made by the commercial and indus-
trial sectors".
AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION FAILED: Councilman Sher moved, seconded by
Comstock, the language with the above phrase deleted. The motion failed
on a vote of 2 to 5 (Councilmembers Sher and Comstock in favor; Beahrs,
Berwaid, Carey, Clay, Norton opposed; and Eyerly and Witherspoon absent).
ORIGINAL MOTION PASSED: The original motion carried on a vote of S to 1
(Councilmembers Beahrs, Berwald, Carey, Clay and Norton in favor; Comstock
opposed; Sher abstaining; and Eyerly and Witherspoon absent) .
ADJOURNMENT
MOTION CARRIED: Councilman Comstock moved, seconded by Norton, to adjourn
to a meeting at 7:30 P.M., Monday, September 27, 1976. The motion carried
on a vote of S to 2 (Councilmembers Seahrs and Berwald opposed; and Eyerly
and Witherspoon absent). The meeting adjourned at 1:00 A.M.
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