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CITY
COUNCIL
MINUTES
Regular Meeting
January 12, 1976
ITEMS
Minutes of November 24, 1975 and December 8, 1975
Oral Communications
Consent Calendar - Action Items
Ordinance re Establishing Fire Zone 3 for the Territory
Annexed to the City of Palo Alto and Commonly Known as
"Barron Park"
or
Pi11O
ALTO
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528
532
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Bid Award: Carpeting for Children's Theatre and Com-
munity Theatre 5 3 2
Bid Award: 1975.1976 Weed Abatement Program 5 3 3
Study re Impact of Night Lighting on Research at Lick
Observatory 5 3 3
Resolution re Flood Basin Mitigation Project Research
Study 5 3 3
Bid Award: Dutch Elm Disease - Phasa I: Tree Removals 5 3 3
Resolution of Appreciation to James Saitta 5 3 3
Retirement of Edward E. 4sby 5 3 4
Retirement of William No Moody 5 3 4
Retirement of Oliver Glen ?lemons 5 3 4
Drug Abuse Program: Selection of Contractor 5 3 5
Public Hearing re Draft EIN - Advance Waste Treatment Facilities,
Palo Alto Water Quality Control Plant 5 5 2
Oral Communications 5 5 4
Adjournment 5 5 4
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January 12, 1976
The City Council of the City of Palo Alto :set on this date at 7:40 p.m.
in a regular meeting with Mayor Norton presie4ing.
Present: Beahrs, Berweld, Carey, Clay,
Comstock, Eyerly, Norton, Sher,
Witherspoon
Absent: None
Mayor Murton welcomed a group of approximately fifty government students
from. Cubberley High School to the Council meeting.
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Councilwoman Witherspoon referred to page 414, Consent Calendar, and noted
gist Mayor Norton was absent; therefore, he could not have moved the Consent
Calendar. "Vice Mayor Clay" should appear instead of "Mayor Norton."
Councilwoman Witherspoon referred to page 447r third paragraph, fifth line,
and noted that "two right turns" should be "two right-angle turns."
Councilman Berweld referred to page 416, fleet paragraph, thirteen lines
from the bottom, and noted that the word "needs" ehould be inserted in place
of "assistance." In the eighth line from the bottom, he noted that the word
"present" should be "presenting."
Councilman Beshrs stated that he remembered in reading the minutes -that
Councilman Comstock made a motion which was credited to Councilman
beahrs. Since Councilman Beahrs could not i distely locate the
motion, At vas agreed that he could retain the right to make the correction
at the next meeting.
MOTION: Mayor 1orton moved, seconded by Clay, that the minutes of
November 24 be approved as submitted with Councilman Beahrs retaining
the opportunity to make a small correction next week.
The motion passed on a unanimous vote.
M T OP 8 1975
MOTION: It was moved by Councilwoman Witherspoon, seconded by Norton,
to approve the minutes of Member 8, 1975, as submitted.
The motion passed on a unanimous vote.
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ORAL COtMUNICE.TIONS
1. Ms. Harriet Mundy, 157 Tennyson Avenue, Palo Alto,
said she hoped that Council would hear her out because
this was a matter of importance wittw a deadline of one
week attached to it. She commented that she wanted to
appear before the Council last week but there was no
Oral Communications.
Ms. Mundy said on October 1, 1975, tbe County of Santa
Clara applied for a permit to the Army Corps of Engineers
to fill 4E6,000 square feat of land for the airport
expansion, to asphalt it, and to build buildings upon it.
She said four airplane hangars and two office buildings
would be built on paved surfaces as indicated. She
pointed out that there were only five buildings indicated
on the asp that was presented to the Army Engineers, and
added that this project had received architectural approval
from the City of Palo Alto. She said she understood that
it was not so; that only one parcel had received approval
but she was not sure whether or not it had received archi-
tectural approval. Then it said -there would be some effects
from the expansion -- more congestion, more noise, more
air p elution but they did not think there would be
any envirosental haurd. The Army Corps of Engineers
will mans a permit if they think it is in the public
interest. However, in view of this, she said she went
to Hr. James Hudak, Manager of Capital Projects, on
January S with this permit. She stated that Mr, Hudak
had not seen or heard of it. She reiterated that the
County wade this application October lP
Parcel A is a 174,000 square foot parcel for a private
operator; ar.4if there is one there now, she did not
know who it is, She said there were no building permits,
no known financing and no plan known to move ahead on it.
'therefore, she stated there should be no filling on this
land at this time. She continued that, FIRM Aviation is
already at the airport; they have 112,000 square foot
which they wish to fill and asphalt. Her understanding
is that one large building was to be on that parcel,
which wee approves! in June, 1975. They showed two
buildings on that parcel. They have no building permits;
it is not kin that they have financing to proceed. If
they do not, then the pacing should not be done at this
tine. Ms. Mindy said the building materials have been
sitting there unused for six months or more and she thought
that was against the City ordinance.
Parcel C, which is 200,000 square feet, has no specific
plans except for the general plan for tie downs; there is
no building permit to asphalting, and they do not know
what the County has for financing. It is not known
whether or not they are going to proceed with it now or
whether they are going to asphalt all of the area now
and just leave it for years and years like they have
done with many *thee things. She asked where *11 of this
is loading?
She asked if it was to nerve present users of the airport
or if it was for expansion? Without definite plans or
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approval from the City, available financing, and an
operator for Parcel A, this land should not be filled
and asphalted. Ms. Mundy stated that this application went
to the Army Engineers on October 1 and the City was not
notified or if it was, the notification was not sent
through the proper channels. She commented that she asked
Mr. Hudak and three Councilmembera end no one had heard
about it. Neither Mr. Jamas Pott nor anyone else repre-
senting the County er airport operators attended any of
the Planning Commission hearings even though they were
invited, held from August to November 24. She asked if
this was headed towards a second runway? At the Planning
Subcommittee hearing on November 25th, page 2 of the
minutes, she quoted, "Hr. Ken Schreiber pointed out that
even if a proposal were to cue in for a second runway,
it would have to go through the Environmental Impact
Report process". If this was true, and all this added
filling and building is leading to a second runway,
the. in no way should it be done until the EIR is done
and a final decision is made on this issue. She said
she knew that the City has a lease but the City reserves
certain rights. She stated there is no requirement to
support the County application to public agencies if the
City is not retitled of such applications, and the work
proposed is not approved by the City of Palo Alto under
the lease agreement. It did turn out that the City
Engineering Department had received a copy of the Army
Engineer's request from the County but it never went
through the City Manager's Office.
Ms. Mundy stated quite frankly that three areas have been
destroyed in the City's baylands by the County with no
subsequent work being done. Two could be considered
abandoned and the third would be questionable. In 1968,
the tidal pond near the launching ramp was filled for dry
boat storage and that is now abandoned. She would like
to see that area returned to pond and marsh, Five acres
of prime marsh in the Yacht Harbor were taken out for
additional boat berths. That is now very questionable
due to the dredging problems and BCDC's reluctance to
enlarge this harbor because of siltation. The third
area - eleven acres of prime marsh, slough and lagoon --
were removed in 1968 for airport expansion. She read
from page 16 - BCDC minutes of February 1, 1968, and
noted that the "new airstrip" refers to a second runway.
"Commissioner Bahr asked how long it would be before the
new airstrip would be completely used. Mr. Rockwell said
this would happen within a 10 -year period; the airport is
planned fox a maximum capacity of 400 based aircraft.
After that, the airport use would run into conflict with
the Moffett Field pattern". She said if that was eight
years ago and nothing has been doses about it, the land
has been taken away - the eleven acres of marsh. She
felt that there was a great discrepancy because the
capacity of the airport is now 350 airplanes. This was
the information she received from the League of Women
Voters brochure which was released in November. If only
400 planes were the limit and they are servicing the
capacity of 350, she asked why they needed 486,000 cubic
feet of asphalt, buildings, etc. She added that the
League of WW1 Voters brochure said 500 to 550 planes
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was the capacity. She asked which is correct? She
commented that there were many questions that needed to
be answered by the County before any permit is issued to
do any of this work. She said the runway would not be
built in ten years. She asked why destruction of our
land is permitted and is nothing received fcr it? She
wanted to know where the guarantees were that the work
would be accomplished after this was done and if there
would be financing or would the asphalt just remain there
forever. Ma. Mundy made reference to the League of
Women Voters Handbook which said that the airportt improve-
ments plans would amount to $3,580,000. She advised Council
to read the League of Women Voters Handbook, pages 25-27
re Airport.
In reference to the Scope of Services amended and approved
by the Council on November 24, 1975, she felt that some
short-aighted amendments were made. With regards to the
Yacht Harbor, she noted that Vice Mayor Clay said all he
had heard would support that theory; that the probability
is reasonably high there will be a place found for the
dredging "spoils". She stated she would like to hear
what Vice Mayor Clay has heard and so would the Yacht Club.
This is for forty years of spoils. She commented that
Councilman Sher's substitute motion on November 24, 1975,
should have been passed.
With regards to the Airport, if an EIR has to be made,
all the considerations that were knocked out by the Council
will surely be considered. As for lengthening the present
runway instead of having two, anyone familiar with the land
knows that that is impossible without: 1) filling the
lagoon and having the planes touch down practically on
Embarcadero Road or 2) bridge, dam, or culvert San
Prancisquito Creek and proceed into the Faber Tract.
Neither of these areas are in the County lease sod one is
in San Mateo County.
The question is why is the County going to the Army
Engineers with this request - for fill end asphalting when
no specific plan or permits have bean given by the City for
most of the work shown on the application and no guarantees
have been disclosed to the City as to when the work would
be completed or if monies were available for 484,010 square
feet. She advised that it be left alone until plans are
disclosed, approved and financed and the extra or lengthened
runway problem is settled and reedy to go. This permit is
dated the 22nd of December and the Council has until the
22nd of January to respond to this request, two days after
the neat Council meeting.
As for paying for the new Master Plan, the County should
certainly pay for their part of the leased lend. The
minutes of the County board of Supervisors of December 23,
1975, agenda item number 47 read "The Supervisors considered
a request from the City of Palo Alto and voted to support,
in principle, the County's participation in the preparation
of the master plan for the Palo Alto Baylande, with no
commitment as to financial partie:ipstion at this time." She
advised the Council that a commitment should he made, other-
wise Palo Alto would end up paying for it all. She quoted
from the slant** of BCC, April 17, 1975, page 19, - this
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direction was addressed to the County who applied to
BCDC. "Mx. Roberts said that was the intent of the
finding on the master plan, ("Comprehensive Master Plan"),
which was putting the County on notice that this problem
(the marina) would have to be solved. This would the
lest time that the County +could dredge without getting
some new dredging facility -capability. Unless that was
done in a master plan, the harbor probably would not get
another dredging."
Therefore, it seemed to Ma. Mundy that before any consultant
is hired with a high price tag on it that the County should
have to pay a substantial portion of the leased lands they
lease from Palo Alto. She reiterated that there are many
questions to be answered. Mr. Pott and the -airport repre-
sentatives have not been consulted and if they have, they
have not come clean. She said she has absolutely no trust
in the Couney -. they did not keep their .contract with BCDC
in 1968 and they have not reached the capacity of the
second runway in ten years. Mr. Rockwell said they had a
permit to dredge the harbor this year and the County
promptly broke the permit again with BCDC. The County
said that all these plans were approved by the City of
Palo Alto. Ms. Mundy said she felt it bears looking
into and looking into very promptly. She thanked the
Council for allowing her to speak.
Mayor Norton asked Mr. Sipel, City tianager, if he had any
response to some of the points that were made.
Mr. Sipel replied that staff has been working with Ma. Mundy,
the Corps of Engineers and the County since this issue was
first brought to staff's attention, approximately a week
ago. Staff will have letters going out to both the Corps
of Engineers and the County within'the neat few days.
Mr; Sipel said he would be very happy to prepare a report
which responds to the major concerns that have been expressed
by Ms. Mundy tonight, and have it ready for the Council -
members in the next packet.
Councilman Sher stated that ordinarily, under Oral
Communications, Council would not want to pursue this
matter, however, he felt it Would be useful to agendixe
this matter for the next Council meeting since the hearing
is to be the following Wednesday. If Council wished to
comment on the matter, then Council should take some posi-
tion on it nest Monday evening. At the same time, he hoped
that Ma. Mundy would give Council the benefit of the
information she has gathered or any notes that she might
have to the City Clerk so that they say be incorporated
in the City Council minutes of thie meeting.
Ms. Mundy said she would not be able to attend the next
City Council meeting, however, she would be more than
happy to share her notes.
Mayor Norton said the matter - would be agendized as Council-
man Sher has eugg.eted and it would appear under "Reports
of City Manager".
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Councilman Berwald expressed appreciation to Ms. Mundy
for bringing this matter to Council's attention. He
suggested that in the future, regarding matters of this
kind, Ms. Mandy should address a letter to all Council -
members.
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Secondly, he wanted to refer the staff to the minutes of
the Council of November 24, 1975. The minutes explained
why he abotainod but he said Council has not had enough
information on the subject and he suggested that at next
weeks meeting, it might be wall that they make a permanent
referral to the Finance and Public Works Committee on the
happenings at the airport and the Baylande.
2. Joseph Carleton, 2350 ]use Road, Palo Alto, addressed Council
oa the same subject. He said he was amazed to have the Corps
of Engineers' notice came through stating "The effects con-
clude increased numbers of light airplanes using the airport,
more congestion, and increased noise and air pollution."
This is immediately contradicted by the succeeding sentence,
"From an analysis of these impacts it has been determined that
the activity would have no significant adverse effect on the
quality of the environment." He asked which sentence do you
believe. it amounts to paving about eleven acres of land. He
talked with one of the operators at the airport, .sad he said
that because of more expensive fuel, the number of flights
is down_ : Mr. Carleton alga said the county does not have
enough money to add a second runway. He told of his talks
with county planning department personnel. He asked Council
to look into the proposed project. He said ho would hate
to lose any more of the Baylands.
s 8 i C,_IANDAR ACTION ITEMS
Mayor Morton asked If Council ware ready to vote on the Consent Calendar
Action Item.
Since there mere no requests for removal, the following items were left for
voting on the Consent Calendar
DUNCE ESTABLISHING FIRE
g' 3 FOR TEE TEA.R1TO Y ANNEaD
TO THE CITY OF
PALO
ALTO
AND
CCHKONLY
DAMN
ORDINANCE $0 2898 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
OF PALO ALTO AMENDING SECTION 16.04.180 (OFFICIAL
FIRE ZONE HAP) OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE TO
ESTABLISH FIRE ZONE N0. 3 FOR THE TERRITORY ANNEXED
TO THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AND commix RNOWN AS "BARRON
PARK"
CARPETING OR CHILDREN'S
THEATRE 1i ► CCMMUNITT CM$; : ` 1:5)
Staff recommends that the City Council authorise the Mayor to sign a
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contract. with Interiors and Textiles Corporation, for carpeting in the
Children's Theatre and the Community Theatre, in the amount of $5,591.
?ID AWARD: 1975-1976 WEED
ABATEMENT PROGRAM (CMR: 626:5)
Staff recommends that the City Council award the contract for the 1975-76
Weed Abatement Program to Commercial Lot Cleaning, Inc. in the amount of
$14,924.00.
STUDY RE IMPACT OF NIGHT LIGHTING
ON RESEARCH AT LICK OBSERVATORY LIGHTING,
Staff recommends that the City Council take no unilateral action upon the
University of California Lick Observatory request to reduce the negative
impact of street lighting on the quality of research at the observatory;
further; that tha Council support a study throughout the entire valley,
fended by Lick Observatory, to identify adverse light sources. Results
of this study would determine the future action by the City of Palo Alto.
RESOLUTION RE FLOOD BAST
}i _ICJON I'RO.1ECx ii. SE.. CH S.I. D�' ( tR:622:5)
RESOLUTION NO. 5187 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO SUPPORTING MARSH
RESTORATION AND PRESERVATICN IN THE BAYLANDS"
BID AWARD: DUTCH ELM DISEASE -
r L I : €`EE IU�V
AGREEMENT BETU2EN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE
CITY OF PALO ALTO CONCERNING DESTRUCTION OF CERTAIN
INFEt:PED OR EXPOSED ELM TREES
ORDINANCE NO. 2699 entitled " ORDINANCE OF THE CITY
OF PALO ALTO AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
1915-76 TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR THE REMOVAL AND
DISPOSAL OF TREES DISEASED BY, OR EXPOSED TO, THE
DUTCH ELM DISEASE"
NOTION: Councilman Comstock moved, seconded by Witherspoon, that the
Consent Calendar -Action Its he approved/adopted.
The motion passed on a unanimous vote.
.E,SOLUTION OF A'PRELALTIOL
TO JAWIS S,AITTA (C R:674:5)
Vice Mayor Clay said that it was a pl^asure to make a few comments is
her of a person who has given unselfishly of his time. libels he
moved to California* in 1958 from St. Louis, ha found himself
bored with the many sunshiny days in California, and living near the
golf course, he decided to go out and hit some balls. Jim Ssitta showe3
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him the various services of the golf course, introduced him as a member
of the golf club, and later supported his efforts on the board of direc-
tors of the golf club. He said it was indeed a pleasure to move the
resolution.
MOTION: Vice Mayor Clay introduced the following resolution and moved,
seconded by Comstock, its adoption;
RESOLUTION NO. 5186 entitled "RESOLUTION OF TUE CITY
OP THE COUNCIL OF TUE CITY OP PALO ALTO EXPRESSING
APPRECIATION TO JAMES 3. SAITTA fOR OUTSTANDING
PUBLIC SERVICE."
The resolution was adopted on a unanimous vote.
For the benefit of the audience, Vice Mayor Clay read the entire resolution
and then presented the certificate to Mr. Saitta.
Mr. Saitta commented that he appreciated ell his years of service at the
golf club and that it was too bad he had to leave, but he had enjoyed it.
RETIREMENT OF EDWARD E. ASBY (04R:614:5)
MOTION: Councilman Comstock introduced the following resolution and
moved, seconded by Witherspoon, its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 5185 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OP PALO ALTO EXPRESSING
APPRECIATION TO EDWARD E. AS SY UPON HIS RET IRE?('T"
The resolution was adopted on a unanimous vote.
11,IIAEFILAALYWAALJESat(CNR: 615:5 )
MOTION: Mayor Norton introduced the following resolution and moved,
seconded by Comstock, its adoption:
RESOLUTION NO. 5184 epttitled "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL
OP THE CITY OF PALO ALTO IMPRESSING APPRECIATION TO
WILLIAM N- MOODY UPON BIS RETIREMENT"
Councilman Berwsld stated he was sorry Mr. Moody wee not present. Re
noted in the staff memorandum that Mr. Moody had completed thirty-eight
years of continuous service to the city. That is a significant record.
He hoped that sometime in the future Mr. Moody could come to a Council
sleeting and be personally given soe+e plaudits even it his name werz not
on the agenda.
The resolution was adopted on a unanimous vote.
"Ti ,,,,Qr tlLxY t G't. N Pi s (Q(:613:5)
1.0TION: Vice Mayor Clay introduced the following resolution and moved,
seconded by Norton, its adoption:
RESOLUTION N0, 5183 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OP PALO ALTO EXPRESSING APPRECIATION
TO =rim GLEN PUMPS UPON HIS RETIREMENT"
The reaaol.tioe wee adopted on as unen moue vote.
e,
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REQUEST TO BRING ITEM 12
FORWARD ON THE AGENDA
MOTION: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Comstock, that Item 12
be moved forward on the agenda for consideration at this time.
Councilman Carey thought there were a number of people who planned to
be here who assumed this item would not come up until 8:45. There were
inquiries as to an estimated time this item would be discussed.
The motion passed on the following vote:
AYES: Beahrs, Berwald, Clay, Comstock,
Norton, Sher, Witherspoon
NOES: Carey, Eyerly
DRUG ABUSE PROGRAM: SELECTI(a
OF CONTRACTOR CMR:610:5) (CMR:586:5)
Vice Mayor Clay commented that this item had to do with the selection of a
contractor to provide drug abuse services to the city. It is an issue of
long standing and therefore does not need that much introduction. As
indicated on the agenda, this matter was discussed for some four hours in
the Policy and Procedures Committee meeting with the result that the matter
comes back to Council without recommendation because of a 2-2 vote in the
committee.
Ms. Carleen Bedwell, Director of Community and Social Services, stated
that when the former contractor for this program was terminated, the city
solicited proposals from drug abuse agencies in the area and instituted
new procedures in reviewing those potential contractors. A Selection
Advisory Committee was used which was made up of professionals or those
acquainted with the subject and practice is the area of drug treatment.
She noted that representatives of the committee were preseut this eve-
ning, they preaentei a report to the Policy and Proce4ures Committee,
and it was suggested that they appear before Council to give their
recommendations rather than have staff do so.
Mayor Norton asked the representatives of the committee to take a place
in the staff area. Dr. Vincent Zarcone, Mr. Robert Garner, and
Mrs. Julie Fuller represented the Selection Advisory Committee.
Dr. Aaron J. Fink, 2500 Hospital Drive, Mountain View, stated that he
was a physician practicing inthe comity since 1958. He said hl.a
interest was both personal as a :itixeu of the community and a professional
one. As a physician, he has had occasion to see over 100 heroin
addicts and has had reasons to periodically contact Pathway House,
Narconoa, end The Collective. This is a time of budgetary restraints
for everyone and trying to maximize dollar expenditures. His first
exposure to Narconom was a latter to the editor where the director
indicated that they were affecting cease of heroin addicts at the rate of
two or three per week. Dr. Pink found that rather remarkable. A few
weeks after that be atteode4 a meeting at the Palo Alto High School and
then spoke with Mr. Jessup Afterward in the hall and asked about the
cure rates. Mr. Jessup indicated they were contacting these people who
were advising them by telephone that they were doing all right. Dr.
Fink questioned the credibility of the cure rates and said he wanted to
bring this perticnier point to Council's attention.
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Robert Greening, 4011 Second Street, Palo Alto, stated that he is a
lawyer who lives and works in Palo Alto, He stated that he is also the
project committee chairman for the Jaycees who are coordinating Narconon's
efforts in Palo Alto. The Jaycees have participated with Narconon in
this endeavor. He said he did not have the professional qualifications
of Dr. Pink, but he had observed the Narconon course procedure in a two-
day course at Narconon. He came away personally feeling that Narconon
is a positive approach. It is also working, and it is working without
benefit of city funds. Many of the people who are working for Narconon
now are being paid with a lot of dedication. Narconon needs a little
city help, and it is an opportunity for Narconon and its private
sources of funds to exist with some city funds. Palo Alto has a serious
drug problem. He urged Council to consider Narconon as a viable proposal
for drug abuse funding, the committee's report notwithstanding.
Greg Morris, 2500 El Camino, #210, Palo Alto, stated that he is an
attorney practicing law in Palo Alto and is on the council of Sunnyvale
where he lives. He spoke on behalf of Narconon. He gave his background
which included a substantial portion of his law practice devoted to
criminal defense work, seven years as a police officer in Mountain View,
member of the Regional Justice Planning Board, and said he has just been
appointed to head a county -wide task force on drug abuse. He has had
occasion to refer clients to Pathways, Crysalis, and Narconon. He said
he could speak without reservation of Narconon's ability. Narconon has
existed in Palo Alto for some tire without help from the city while
the city was funding another project. He felt to fund another project
would do serious damage to Narconon's ability to raise funds.
Richard M. Irby, 160 Jasmine Way, East Palo Alto, spoke in support of
Narconon'a Palo Alto program from the standpoint of being a client of
the program. He said he had auccesfnlly completed the program at
Narconon. This has enbled him to reassess himself end reenter college.
He felt that Narconon represented a viable program for the city.
John D. Snow, 105 Lowell, Palo Alto, noted that no one has asked the
patient w:ao he wants to be treated by. The city has X amount of dollars.
He suggested prorating then to all three : organisations and letting
the patient choose what group would be the most effective for him.
Nets Jessup, 3838 La Selva, representing Narconon, responded to Dr.
Pink by stating that the letter to the Palo Alto Times stated that
they were detoxing two to three heroin addicts per week. That is
different from curing two to three addicts per week. It is the follow
up which makes the difference as to whether or not the individual
will remaia free of. drugs. Although they use telephone follow up,
they also get them to come in, and included in the proposal is random
urinalysis testing. He stated that Narconon had a program ,net up
in the Los Altos High School. Dr. &arco s phoned the school and said
that Narconon was equal to Scientology, and the progrem should not
be permitted. The program wee not going to be paid for frost public
funds. Mr. Jessup did not feel that was proper action from someone
who is sitting on a committee which is supposed to be objective.
He felt that Narconon would provide more for the buck than any other
program because the Jaycees will help and the sports banquet will
help. Of all of the el.; a natives before Council, $erconon is the
most nonexperim ntal. Mae felt that the issue of relation to Scientology
should be confronted head on. Tigers has been no secret nor denial
of the fact that the methodology is borrowed from Scientology with
their permission. be told of Mormon and Christian Scientist clients
who completed the Ferconon program and went back to be active in their
own religions. He said Sarcomas is not an exchange of a big religious
idea for . drug addiction.
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Arthur Maren, Vice President of Narconon, housed in Los Angeles, gave
some of the history of Narconon. He felt that funding from the city
would be acknowledging Narconon for the work that has already been done
in Palo Alto and encouragement to continue it. He stated that funding
would not benefit the Narconon staff. People who work in thie area
basically get paid out of the results they produce. The community
benefits ultimately from any decision Council makes at this time.
Narconon began the program in Palo Alto because of the need, not because
there was opportunity for a grant. The program is operating in thirty
states and internationally including Germany and Sweden. He felt a
vote of Palo Alto citizens would be favorable to Narconon. If they
receive city funds, they will not stop their activities to get funds
from the citizens. lie stated that the best solution to any problem
is one that won't become the next problem. He felt that Narconon could
offer that.
Councilman Beehrs stated that some of us have high degree of confidence in
the academic and professional psychiatric community. In any of the dis-
cussions he had not seen a description of what recourse Narconon might
have to such resources.
Mr. Maren responded that it depended on the local demand, especially in
areas of medical detoxification. The professionals are not shunned in any
program.
Councilman Sher asked Mr. Maren to tell Council something about the
relationship between the national organization and the local chapters.
Mr. Mayen replied that the local programs are on their own with as ouch
management advice as the Ue S. Chapter can give. Their role has been
primarily to insure that a new program has the proper amount of ethics,
integrity, and the desire to conduct the program properly. It also supplies
the materials for the various Narconons around the country. It keeps as
close a follow-up on their activities as possible.
Councilman Sher asked if they support the program financially or do the
local program support the national organizaton.
Mr. Maren replied that the national board is pretty much funded through
membership. In some areas a percentage of memberships that come in goes
towards provision for local courses. In the main, local programs are
autonomous.
Councilman Sher asked if any of the local program are city funded.
Mr. Meretu replied that he could think of about five city funded program
in various stages --just ending up, just beginning, etc.
COUOCiLMAIA Sher asked which states.
Mr. Maren replied Delaware, California, Texas, Arizona.
Councilman Sher asked if they were continuing annual contributions.
Mr. 4arenl said that most of them have be .
Carla Bliss, 588 Barron Avenue, Palo Alto, said that as a professional
counselor and taxpaying citizen, she was concerned about hearing_some
exchange between Council and the Selection Adviaory Group, and she
hoped that would happen this evening.
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John Brodie, 260 Surrey, Los Altos, referred to a "little ditty" and
said it accuses him of having a couple of councilmembers in the bag.
He said he would like to expose his relationship to Palo Alto '75 and
what it is and why it is clean. He stated that Vice Mayor Clay is a
good friend of his. He met him when they ware introducing themselves
to the whole Council about the effectiveness of their drug abuse program.
Vice Mayor Clay ieeaed what Nerconon was doing was useful. Since that
time they have had a personal relationship. Mr. Brodie added there is
another member of the Council who is a very close friend of his and
has been for twenty years. They era both interested in the community
and the product in the drug abuse area. This person looked into the
program and also was in support of it.
He noted that Anne Witherspoon was a Palo Alto '75 candidate. Mr. Brodie
recommended her at election time. When he spoke in public, he spoke to
expose what Narconon was doing in the drug abuse area. At no time did
he ever speak on behalf of any individual. He was interested in all four
Palo Alto '75 candidates gaining Council seats. At this stage, Anne
Witherspoon is not in favor of the Narconon drug abuse program, and that
is her right. She did, however, take a look at it.
Councilman £yerly had stated he is not quite sure. He knows there is
value to both programs. He quoted from a newspaper. article. He said
Narconon has an existing program, and Pathways Society is something to
be formed. Hr. Brodie said it is strange to him that this City Council
turned down The Collective because it was not very productive. However,
for some reason in r_oueidering treatment of drug abuse the same old faces
keep cropping up. If you have the ability to get someone off drugs, he
did not see how someone who is using a substitute drug to do that can
call that program naive. Ho felt Councilmembers had a responsibility to
visit the ► erconon progzaz and see how it worked. Me said he objected
to a call being made to Lori Altos School District tel.ltna them not to
get involved with Narconon. Sixth an 3ctroe was not objective, and he
wondered about the credibility of the men involved in making the choice.
Richard Geabatsee, 431 Laure;t Avenue, Menlo Perk, representing Detour,
one of the contractors bidding for the city money for the detoxification
part of the program, stated that from reading the newspaper, one would
conclude that there were only two programs who applied for the city
funding. There were ten or eleven eppl{cants. Re explained some of
what Detour is doing eM why the city should consider providing them
with some funds. They have been seeing yen to sixteen addicts per week.
They have a firm commitment from £l Camino and Stanford hospitals that
they will use Detour to screen individual; seeking hospitalisation for
the use of narcotics. They have lad tremendous success in producing
patients who have been able to complete the seven days after detoxifica-
tion. Detour would give individuals a choice as to where to continue
their counseling.
Harrison Otis, 919 N. California Avanua, addressed Council in support of
John Brodie and the Narconon preventative program. the said he has seen
the results of the program.
Tim Trailer, 1445 Hamilton Avenue, President of the Palo Alto Jaycee,
asked the approximately twenty Jaycees in the audience to stand. The
Jaycees have had an idea to become involved in a drug abuse program for
some time end have had a hard time figuring out how they could become
adequately involved. They iocke0` into Narconon, and after reviewing
the program strongly urged Vii., to adopt the Mammon project. A few
weeks ago the selection advisory O■mittse recommended selection of
Pathways for City funding. The Ja}'cess asked why, and the Committee
went on record that the alleged rogpectioa between iiarconom and Scientology
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had nothing to do with their decision. Mr. Trailer had talked with the
gentleman at the Los Altos High School and was amazed to find that a
member of the selection advisory committee had c lied the school and
said he was categorically opposed to Nerconon because it preached
Scientology. Mr. Trailer said he found that not to be true. He felt
the selection advisory committee had been unwittingly biased. One of
the strongest members of that committee has actively lobbied against
Narconon. He said Narconon has c proven track record, and the Jaycees
board of directors has unanimously voted to support Narconon. He read
a resolution to that effect.
Councilman 3eahrs stated that he was delighted to see the presentation
that the young people wade. He said that although it has been protested
on numerous occasions that there is no connection between Scientology
and Narconon, he does know that there is a raging conflict between
Scientology and the psychiatric interests. He wondered if Mr. Trailer
had seen any literature concerned with this.
Mr. Trailer responded negatively. He commented that the methodology may
be similar, but it is nothing that would offend anyone.
Councilman gyeriy referred to the $6,000 gift toward the program that
the Jaycees were thinking of and asked if it would be a one -tire gift
or annual funding, He fe=els that if the city goes into this, it is
committed for a number of years.
{r. Trailer replied that it would be a fifteen -month commitment from the
Jaycees standpoint. He could not speak for what the club would want to
do fifteen months from now. He thought they could consider it a pilot
program, and if it is successful, the Jaycees would want to continue to
support it, but he could not make a commitment beyond fifteen months.
Councilwoman Witherspoon asked if the city does not fund Nar,.onon, did
Mr. Trailer still feel that the Jaycees had a commitment, vie a vis
their resolution, to continue to support Narco.on.
Mr. Trailer said the Jaycees had always talked of this as a joint effort
between the Jaycees and the city.
Dorsha I;n' ow, 335 High Street, representing Detour, stated that during
the conferences of the selection advisory committee, he was shocked at t
the incompetence of the committee. They asked questions that were
totally irrelevant to drug abuse.
Richard Hamilton, 124 Buckthorn #9, Atherton, member of Detour= stated
he had in the past been a multi -drug user, drug seller, and did time
in the penitentiary for selling drugs. He is now a counselor at the
Santa Clara County Methadone program and is involved with Detour. He
endorsed Narconon. He said the matter of detoxification should be Z
separate consideration.
Vice Mayor Clay asked how old Detour is ae an organization.
Mr. Hamilton said it has been in existence for three months, but it has
been a working prcgrass. It is composed of four people. They saw a need
in Palo Alto which was not being filled and decided to act. They mate
arrangements with the hospitals and started filling the beds and doing
-the work.
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Councilman Beaters stated that he found some of the testimony from the
audience quite disturuing as it relater to committee deliberations sad
reports. He asked Dr. Zarcone to comment.
Dr. Zarcone pointed out that he was only one member of the select committee.
The committee was asked to give an opinion, and their recommendation was
unanimous. As to the question of bias on his part, after reading the
first three or four pages of the Karconon proposal, Dr. Zarcone esid he
did become biased in the sense that ha immediately turned to the rear of
the proposal, the bibliography section, and noticed a number of references
to Scientology. As has been alluded to here, there is a difference of
opinion between psychiatrists and Scientology. The question about contact
with Los Altos High School had to do with the trustworthiness of the
application. There is a statement in the application that reads "This
fall a similar course has been arranged at the Los Altos High School
for troublesome students, financed through the Parents Committee."
He did not believe that statement; so he called the dean of the Los
Altos High School, and the dean said it was not true, Dr. Zarcone
said he simply checked out a statement as to whether or not it was
true. The question of the sophistication of the Narconon proposal
and the effort that Narconon makes is a matter of judgment, it was the
judgment of the committee, the unanimous judgment, that Narconon was not
as sophisticated or experienced, or broad in their approach as was
Pathways. They had one sort of bias in that they were impressed with
Pathweye experience. All of the committee members had heard more about
Pathways than about Narconon. That is a kind of bias.
Coucilnan Basra stated that this community had had about $500, 000
worth of sad experience with peeudo professionals arad their idealized
outlooks on this problem. At this point he was somewhat disturbed by
the references to Pathways and the fact there Is no existing program.
So what would the city be buying? Paithways House or Pathways Society
has no existing program or organizetlon in this immediate area which
is set up to go. Here in Narconon we have people who have had years
of proven experience in the community. Yet Council is being asked to
buy an t ra known as compared to that.
Dr. Zarcone replied that he could sea Councilman "timbre' point. The
committee was not given the task of using experience as a criteria.
They were supposed to review proposals. It was his understanding
that if a group wit a proposal to provide services, that is what the
committee was supposed to review.
Councilman Beabree said this problem was particularly difficult for him.
He voted against contributing to the drug abase problem in the city from
the word go. He has always insisted drug abuse is a regional problem
and one a municipality cannot solve. He has been burned several times on
the problem in this town, and it is a difficult decision.
Dr. Z.ercone repeated that the selection advisory committee was not given
the task of deciding that issue. They wore deciding between contractors
who were bidding to do the job.
Vice Mayor Clay commented that Council had had several hours of testimony
now on the selection of a contractor, if any. There were some criteria
that were discussed, and others he had firmly in his mind. Two that
were included in the guidelines to be used by the advisory committee
were that _ the organisation oboe ability to support itself, and that the
organization be able to demonstrate familiarity with Palo Alto clientele.
Along with that he thought that programs the city would look at seriously
would be those that were ongoing in nature and Council was not inviting
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people to generate proposals and respond with a given amount of money
to support a drug abuse treatment program. He sa4d'that hip is not an
expert in the field of drug abuse treatment, but he had noticed that the
experts do not agree. Therefore, his decision *;based primarily on the
reasoning that he would expect a governmental bo4y to make; the kind of
reasoning very skin to business as he knows it. Ability to support
itself was a criteria that he felt strongly ebout. When an organization
providing service in the social arena can get financial support from the
community, he thinks that is the best evidence of stcpport by the
community. If an organization can raise funds, should the city decide
to reduce or eliminate its funding later, the program it has supported
would not be left completely abandoned. He felt :Council would be doing
an injustice to offer support to a newly formed organization, in the
absence of Council having made a long-term decision to support a drug
abuse program at a given level. He felt that thedprograma that re-
sponded and submitted proposals were somewhat misled in thinking that
there were funds available in the amount of $135,000, but the evidence
to him is very clear that Council has no desire to spend that amount
of money in 1975, and that evidence could be demonstrates by the record
this year when Council transferred some funds from the drug abuse
programs to other areas. Vice Mayor Clay had the distiuct feeling
that it was the sense of the Council that while they wanted to support
a drug abuse program, they wanted to get the least expensive one they
could find and not one costing $135,000. In April of 1975, he intro-
duced the Narconon proposal to the Council. After looking at what they
were proposing, and particularly the manner in which they chose to be
paid for their services, he thought that Council certainly ought to
have a full investigation as to the prospect of Narconon providing
its services to Palo Alto, especially since Narconon has been in Palo
Alto for sometime providing services with their own funds. A component
of that program that was impressive to him was that the manner of compen-
sation incorporated an evaluation component, which was that the city
would provide to Narconon a retainer fee of X amount and that beyond
that the city would pay to Narconon the. sum of X dollars based on
Narconon's successfully serving the clients who came through. In the
Policy and Procedures Committee, one of the points dwelled on a length
was that any program contemplated by the city should have au evaluation
component. After introducing the Narconon proposal to the city, Vice
Narconon
Mayor Clay followed arcs non closely during, its regular` activities in
the prevention and treatment areas, as well as being willing to let the
gammon proposaal follow the political process of going to committee,
back. to Council, end having other proposals brought to the city. The
end result of all this is that he is convinced Narconon is the program
that should be suppported by the city because it stood all the tests
put to it to this time.
MOTION: Vie Mayor Clay moved, seconded by Beahrs, that Council
select Narconon as the retractor to provide drug abuse prevention and
treatment services to the City of Palo Alto and that staff be directed
to develop a contract appropriately defining the scope of services and
with n compensation plan based on the following formula: That the
City pay to Narconon the sum of $1S,000 as a retainer to cover a portion
of its overhead, and then pay the sum of $250 per person successfully
served to a maximum of 100 persons, or $40,000 maximum exposure to the
city.
Councilman Comstock asked what would be Vice Mayor Clay's definition of
"successfully served."
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Vice Mayor Clay replied that he would expect the definition to be
brought out during the development of the contract itself. He would
expect Narconon not to enter into an agreement where they did not under-
stand what that meant.
Councilmen Comstock asked the selaction advisory committee members if
they ranked their choices one, two; three, etc. The minutes show that
they recommended one organization and conversely did net recommend
any of the others.
Mr. Robert Garner replied that while the entire discussion seems to
reflect that there were at least two agencies,in the top_two, Narconon.
and Pathways, it must be made clear that in fact Narconon was not in
the top three if the committee had gone to the trouble of ranking them.
They were not asked to rank, but to make their recommendation to Council.
Cow cilaean Comstock, noted that the staff report of December 11, 1975,
listed a lot of background material, including a selection process
containing ten criteria. He understood that these were the criteria
the committee used in making their evaluation. Also he understood that
the committee was not asked to evaluate proposals on the basis of whether
or not there was an existing program operating in the community. He noted
that the Policy and Procedures Committee recommeeded to Council, and
Council approved, a Request for Proposals which was converted into a
document and sent to interested bidders. The committee had no disagree-
ment about the document it ultimately submitted to Council, and Council
supported the document which defined the scope of services, Councilman
Comstock then read the ten criteria, he noted that the word "demonstrated"
appeared in a number of the criteria and asked the committee in applying
this phrase in their evaluation, did they construe that to mean that
only organizations which were in operation and had actually accomplished
these tasks were ones which should be considered, or were they satisfied
that if they gave an adequate, knowledgeable exposition about what they
proposed to do, was that considered a demonstrated situation.
Mt. Garner replied that it was quits easy to apply the criteria to
organizations which were not now in operations Council heard quite a
few cents that Pathways does not operate in this town now and does
not operate an out -patient program. In fact, Pathways has started
quite a few outpatient programs and have shown they have the expertise.
You analyse the entire process of detoxification which includes intake
and aftercare, ongoing counseling end rehabilitation. It is quite
possible to break that down into component parts and show that that
organisation hes a great deal of expertise in each of the areas. The
orgenisetion has had four or five years' experience in Palo Alto
organising the unity to fight drug abuse at the primary prevention
level without any money from the city. None of the committee members
had any problem applying the criteria.
Councilman Comstock said that in listening to the audience and Council
members, a great deal of emphae g was placed on the fact that one group
is indeed physically in the community and hes carried on au operation
with people in the community. Sines everyone agrees that is not the
ease with the Pathways proposal, how did the committee evaluate that?
Mt. Garner replied that it was obvious in tents of the RIP that the
city wee not asking for just an ongoing program; so the committee
examdeed all of the applications in te3rma of what understanding it
takes to start up a program and what experience they have In starting
up a program. Even an ongoing program would have to start up a new
aspect. They are not now doing what you era asking in the
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Mrs. Fuiler commented that from the RFE that went out, it was obvious
among the people who responded that they did not necessarily think
they had to have an :existing program. A lot of the'proposals that
came in were not ezistiug programs, and an existiag program was not
something that the committee was to base its decision on.
Councilman Comstock commented that Vice Mayor Clay had made a motion which
is somewhat different from the approach that Imo been made in the RM
He felt this was short notice. lie noted that he had asked Vice Mayor
Clay about the term "successfully treated." The RFF' did not include
that kind of terminology and neither did the proposals. He asked how
the committee would deal with the proposed motion in trying to develop a
modified RFP or in asking the people to come back with modified proposals.
Hr. Garner replied that it is extremely attractive to lave an organization
offer a deal where you pay only for success. If there was such an approach
in the drug abuse field, it would be receiving almost all of the money in
this field across the nation. If this approach is that good, why isn't
it being used everywhere? There is no answer that is so pat that an
organization can make that offer unless it is defined in such a way that
they are obviously goiug to succeed. One of those ways is to treat
individuals who do not have a serious drug problem. If they also define
in terms of success just the fact that an individual has gotten through
a program, they, can show that a certain number got through, and you can
pay them for that. That does not have anything to do with whether the
person will be drug free. There is only one way to know, and that is
urinalysis. We have already heard the team "naive." Mr. Garner thought
it could be applied quite well to the kind of offer that says we will
charge only for success. He did not believe this approach was viable.
Dr. Zarcone said that there was some agreement that a follow-up to
determine success would take at least two years. For practical roaoons,
the proposal would run into difficulty, since the city would not be
able to pay the contractors until they had followed for two years a
certain percentage of thir clients. It is necessary to wait at least
that long in order to determine whether or not you have successfully
treated a heroin addict. Some people would say you have to wait five
years.
Ccuncilear Comstock said he must pursue with Dr. Zarcone the question of
the call to Los Altos High School. Several members of the audience said
quite specifically that Dr. Zarcone called the school end made representa-
tives about whether Harconon should carry on the program. Councilman
Comstock believed he could understand the disagreement in terms of
medical practitioners with Scientology and what he felt to be their source
of reference. He a sk*d Dr. Zercane what representation he made to the
representatives of the school district.
Dr. Zarcone replied that he pointed out to the school district that the
connection between Narconon and Scientology had been investigated by
the State Department of Health. and there was a question in the mind
of many people in the State of California about that issue and that it
was a matter of some concern to him, and he thought it should be to
them as well.
Councilman Comstock asked if this took place prior or subsequent to the
committee meeting in which ell this was discussed.
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Dr. Zarcone replied that it was subsequent to his reading of Narconon's
application. He did not know about their proposed involvement in the
school district until he read the application. _it was right after he
received the proposal. He was checking out the statement, because
he did not believe that Los Altos High School would make such an arrange-
ment with Narconon, and it turned out he was correct.
Councilman Comstock noted that in addition to those present tonight, the
other members of the committee who conducted this evaluation were John
Martin, Assistant Superintendent of Educational Services for the Palo
Alto Unified School District, Jerry Arbuckle, a senior at Gunn High
School, and Alec Andrus.
Mrs. Puller referred to the busssinase of Dr. Zarcone and Scientology
and what was said earlier by the President of the Jaycees. She noted
that Dr. Zarcone was one person on a committee of six people. He was
not able to sway any of them. They are all pretty strong-minded people.
They talked about Scientology, and the minutes show they decided they
could really get bogged down on that. Scientology w83 not considered
in their recommendation. It was never mentioned in any of the committee
hearings after the first time until the Policy and Procedures Committee
meting, and Mr. Jessup himself brought it up. That also is in the
minutes.
Robert Morris, a member of the Sciences Department at Los Altos High School,
said he was the one who originally made contact with Narconon regarding
the program at the high school. There is a proposed program to go in
at Los Altos, It will not be the only program. Narconon will be
included. It will be funded by the Parents' Group. Hie understanding
is that Dr. Zarcone called the Dean of Students and represented himself
as a parent of a student and a member of the Stanford faculty. He asked
if it were true that a program fraa Narconon vas goicig into the school
end asked if they were aware that it was "a heevy religious trip, very
heavily connected to Scientology; they did not know what they were doing,
end were naive." That was the first set of questions he got when he
walked back into the administration office that afternoon.
Councilman Eyerly commented that not having the wisdom of the counselors
and professionals, he had to go through these proposals and arrive at
some conclusions. He has been somewhat distressed in listening to
what hes been going on. He has had some feelings on certain things in
both proposals. He has had some concern about the cloud over 1Tarconon,
but they have been dispelled tonight. He asked if anyone fraa Pathways
were present. Council has bad a going commentary from Narconon forces
and the Sslact Comomi t tee, but it has not heard from euyone from Pathways.
Mr. Chuck Aldrich, the Executive Director of Pathways, said he was
requested by bra Board of Directors not to get too involved politically
in the situation. Pathways felt they responded in good faith to an RYP.
You road an RIP and decide whether or not you want to respond. Having
dons that, they aissumed the process in Palo Alto would go as process's
usually go, and recommendations would be meads and a selection would he
fortbcomieg. lie felt the process was going 'long until hie encounter at
the committee seating in December. After that experiences, he went back
to his board, and they decided that if the city felt their proposal was
worth considering, and if they vented Pathways to provide drug abuse
sarv°ices, they would consider doing that, but that Pathways would not
enter into a political polemic at this piatfora debating the pros and
coos of their program. Pathway/ has been in operation for ten years,
has operated in the therapeutic community for eight years, bee mined
several hundred teachers And administrators free of charge in the Palo
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Alto Unified School District, and he really did not feel they needed
to stand up and sell themselves. The process has come-to.a culmination
tonight, and it is up to Council to make thehe decision. Council called
together a group of professionals and asked them to make a decision
about the proposals. They did so, and now Council has people coming
before them who have no credentials making comments and making statements
that they themselves went through and thought were really.good. He said
he kind of regretted he did not load up Pathways bus this evening with
of the residents of their therapeutic community and bring them down
here and allow them to talk to Council about Pathways drug abuse problem.
He said he would not stand up here and tell Council about the success;
rates they have. Mr. Aldrich said he is horrified that we live in a
society that openly condones the use cf chemical substances. How many
had a cup of coffee or a drink of alcohol today? It is openly accepted
by one and all. He summarized by saying he had not intended to talk
this evening. He came to listen and see what the process was going to
be. If Council feels that what Narconon had to offer was what they
wanted in the city, that is Council's choice to make. If Pathways'
proposal makes any sense to Council, then he would recommend they consider
it. He felt there were better things Pathways could be involved in than
a political polemic concerning drug abuse in the City of Palo Alto.
Councilman Eyerly noticed on the proposal that Pathways received a lot of
grants with which to run their society. He asked if they had a contract
in the north county, did they think they could get separate grants for
use in this area.
Mr. Aldrich replied that he thought it would he possible.
Councilman Eyerly also noticed that Pathways had a breakdwon in treatment
about $23,000 primary education, about $23,000 crisis. Narconon has
$35,000 down for treatment and $9,000 for education. There is a wide
divergence on these figures. Does this mean that Pathways is putting
more emphasis on education in north county?
Mr. Aldrich responded that it is very difficult to come up with hard
figures on programs that you are conceptualizing. He thought the idea
was that more emphasis would be placed in primary prevention. He felt
the committee deesaphaeized that aspect of the program.
Councilman Eyerly Asked if the committee interviewed each organization
that presented a proposal, or any of them.
Dr. Zarcone replied that they interviewed Pathways, Narconon, Detour,
and The Collective.
Councilman Eyerly asked what criteria the committee used in deciding
who would be interviewed and in narrowing the field down from ten to
four.
Dr. Zarcone said it was mainly how proposers presented the programs
and how they responded to the ten parts of the RFP. The committee
felt the four response. mentioned earlier warranted further study.
Some of the proposals received did not respond to the Rid' at all.
Councilman Eyerly asks what the committee thought *bout splitting
the funIs ur between different organizations.
Dr. Zarcone said the comeitteee felt that organizationally Pate
wee the strongest and that it would be a savings both in am navy and
time of the people working in the various areas io the contract were
given to one organizatiom iastead of two. Also it rid be a savings
in time in interacting with the city staff and Council.
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Councilman Eyerly commented that he had seen the report from the Stste
Department of Health concerning Narconon New Life in Los Angeles. There
has been a certain cloud over Narconon, and a lot of it has been dis-
pelled for him tonight, but ho would like some comments about this
particular report.
Mr. Maren replied that as of three weeks ago Narconon New Life has
moved to new quarters, and they have met every standard of the health
department. The state has recommended the program be renewed.
Councilman Eyerly asked if the report had been put out for public
dissemination and if there had been any lawsuit on it.
Mr. Maren responded negatively.
Councilman Eyerly noticed in the proposal from. Narconon that if they
received the money, a certain amount would go to Narconon in Los
Angeles. He asked what percentage goes from the local branch to
the national, how it is figured, and what it is for.
Mr. Maren replied that they work with a base figure of ten percent
and whether the local group is large or small, The costs are made
known prior to receiving the contract.
Mayor Norton recognized Mrs. Fuller, who said she would like to offer
a word of caution to Council before they vote on this motion, Council
should think carefully about weighing the kinds of testimony they have
heard. One kind has come from the proponents of proposals. They have
made statements in their own behalf, which by nature are vested and
biased, Secondly; Council has heard testimony from the Jaycees who
admit they have spent something like two days at Narconon reviewing the
program end say this is a great program. None of them seem to be
very well versed in drug problems. They went there as normal people,
and that should be weighed against the experience of drug addicts
taking the same program. Thirdly, Council has the recommendation from
the selection advisory committee, which was selected on the basis of the
fact that those persons did have some knowledge and r.o bias. That testi-
mony came from people who have worked in the drug field in different
capacities over many years. Their decision was not made on a two-day
visit to a drag program.
Councilman Sher stated that the city's pest experience in supporting a
drug abuse program has amounted on one-half millions dollars. There
has been a difference of opinion ebeut whether the money was well spent.
There was controversy. Counc s._has to be very careful in going into
support of a new program to be sure it is enthusiastic about it and
convinced it is whet it wants to do. This is particularly important
this year when Council is adopting a new approach to the city support
of social prograars. It is as competition which includes child care,
senior citizens, health care, Resource Center for Women, and many
others which will be reviewed in the budget process. The City budgeted!
$135,0°3 fot the 1975-76 fiscal year, loss than half of which is left.
Council should not spend it just to be spending it. Councilman Sher
recalled that when be asked whether going forward with the request for
proposals vas a commitment that Council would pick one and spend the
money, - the answer he received was no. He thought there were some
pa:obleata s and dangers in going forward with the program at this time
when Council is drying to rank the social programs. There are start-
up costs in soma programs, and maybe all. If Council votes to support
a drug abuse program, Councilman Ry+srly said be thinks it is committed,
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and Councilman Sher thought that was true. He thought Council had to
be realistic and not just look at the money for this short-term period.
In looking at the various proposals and the cor ittee'e reaction to
them, he did not find any terribly enthesiastic reaction to any of the
programs on the part of the advisory committee. They viewed their
assignment as deciding between the proposals presepte4 to them, and they
picked the one they felt was best. Some mabere of the policy and
Procedures Committee voiced the view that they were not. convinced that
any of the proposals carried the day. Councilman Sher did not see any
enthusiasm that should be characteristic of launching into support of
a new program. He admires the Jaycees and the work they have done. -He
applauded their community efforts and their desire to become involved
in a drag abuse treatment program, but he did not think Council could
let their best judgment be colored by the offer of a matching grant.
He felt doubtful about the city's funding of the drug .program at thie
time and commiting itself to a long-term support of the drug program
on a continuirig basis, especially in competition with the other program
that will be reviewed in conjunction with the budget process. He felt
it :,could be a mistake fr the city at this time to support a new program
with the long-term implications that it carries. Councilman Sher said
he would vote against funding a program for the balance of this fiscal
year.
Councilman Carey stated that he could support the motion with two
amendments. Chang Change the word "the city -funded program" to "a city -funded
program" and change the wording dealing with the payment for each
individual successfully treated. Council has heard a lot of testimony
in committee about how one measures successful treatment. Some months
ago he spent time with both Narconou and The Collectives and he had
a complaint with them regarding their claims of success, In dealing
with a human being, the success or lack of success may never be deter --
mined. If the emphasis were put on minimum number of hours of treatment
or enrollment and completion of a course or certain program, that would
make more sense to him. Unfortunately, the minutes of the committee
meeting cannot reflect the voice inflections and the emotions of those
who spoke. It is unfortunate, because it could give Council a great
deal of insight into not only the nature of the drug abuse problem, but
the zeal with which individuals involved promote their cause. He did not
by this statement exclude the selection advisory committee. Zeal in
excess to him means something more than just zeal. We are getting
involved in zealots who are fighting for whatever beliefor cause, and
it becomes almost a religious war. Councilman Carey said he has heard
a great deal tonight about whether Scientology is involved in Narconou.
All of the discussions in the cemmittee meeting approached that of a
religious war with great religious fervor. It amazed him how many
people in whatever capacity could be so saoti nal about this issue, He
did not see any objectivity on anyone's part_all during the course of
the discussions. He was especially disturbed by the advisory committee's
statements tonight and at the meeting of the Policy and Procedures
Committee, because be hoped that if anyone would show evidence of object-
ivity, it would be that committee. He quoted several statements to
illustrate this lack of objectivity. If the city has a program dealing
with the use of drugs by young children, ha saw nothing wrong with that.
He was disappointed that while the advisory committee said no single
applicant see able to meet all of the requi rem nts of the RivP, they
said that one came closest. It wee his understanding that Council would
look at more than one contractor if tbs+t appeared appropriate and if no
single applicant could meet all of the requirements. He thought the
committee might have spent time looking at more than one contractor.
He wa, also disappointed that all of the applicants propotted spending
all of the money. This may not be the fault of the applicant. It
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may be the fault of the RFP, staff, Council, or the Policy and Procedures
Committee. It was clear in his mind that the city was not requiring
applicants to spend all of the money. Just the reverse. Council was
hoping they would not, and that city funding would.be only part of the
funding for any particular contractor. Finally, he was persuaded by
two facts in voting on what he hoped would be an amended motion. Narconon
is here, rind it has been here, and it works. He knows that, Narconon
has demonstrated an ability to raise its own funds; therefore, any city
commitment would not be 1002 commitment of financing for a brand new
installation that does not pre-exist and function in Palo Alto. It
eliminates start-up costs and eliminates the risk of being successful
with a program 1002 funded by the city at a rate of $135,000 per year
in a time when Palo Alto for the first time is having a hard time
balancing its next budget. There is a possibility the funds would be
reduced in a short time after gearing up for a $135,000 program. He
would rather fund an existing program in at least part of a drug abuse
area. To partially fund the Maroon= program with their continued
willingness and ability to raise their own money makes sense to him.
He said he would support it if the two changes as suggested were made
in the notion.
Vice Mayor Clay stated he did not have any problem with changing "the" to
"a". What he intended to convey is that Narconon is the only program
that he ie prepared to support tonight based on the information Council
has on drug programs, and the motion is not intended to preclude Council
from doing whatever it wishes to do later on. He was also looking at
the nuMher of dollars that Council would like to spend, and on that
basis of that, he did not see how the city could support more than
one program.
e&egsrding the other change in the motion suggested by Councilman Carey,
Vice Mayor Clay said he was driven to that condition es a result of
his initial evaluation of the Narconon program, as introduced to the
Council last April, and without having in mind a very distinct manner
of determining bow that might be done. In concept it sounds like a
good evaluation type component. He said he would have no objection
to changing that to some other form of evaluation.
CoeAlvan Carey suggested that the wording could be changed to $250
per parson who completes a certain minimum number of hours of treatment
or whatever other standard that the city staff and the propsed contractor
can agree upon.
Vice Mayor Clay stated be would still like to have something that he
could sink his teeth into as a concrete means of determining the
productivity of the program. The number of hours do not necessarily
do that.
Councilman Carey agreed. but said Council has to evaluate any program
the city funds on an hourly or some other basis, and it is up to
Council to evaluate whether or not it is effective. -At this point,
he thought all Council could say is you put in X hours with a patient,
and you get Y dollars.
Vice Mayor Clay asked if Councilman Carey feta:id be satisfied with
amending that condition se opposed to substituting for it, so that
Council would have the number of hours of treatment as an alternative
means of evaluating the programs: when the contract comes back to Council,
Councilmen Carey agreed as long as there is some measure standard that
triggers the money.
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Vice Mayor Clay said he would also like to define the target clientele,
and after $250 per person, he would like to insert '!per Palo Alto
resident successfully served." Whereas Narconon may not be confined to
Palo Alto, that is what Palo Alto is paying for. Another addition would
be that the compensation plan is to be set for period of twelve mouths
commencing February 1, 1976.
Councilman Carey said that would be carrying it over into the 1976-77
budget, and he did not know if Council could do that.
Councilman Beahrs said he had trouble with that suggestion. He had hoped
the entire problem could be left open and ultimately when the Social
Services priorities of the community are finally settled on, if this
is the realm of possibility, Council could at that time decide if the
program would be subject to ongoing support. Instil+this city devises
an iron -clad policy of once a year deciding what they will support,
Council will be trapped with every person coming in and saying his
program is good. He objected to the establishment of a one-year term.
He felt the proposal was sufficiently flexible that it could be open.
If Council decides that people who cannot discipline themselves are
out of luck and the disciplined people cannot support their wild ideas
in life, it is all over.
Vice Mayor Clay said he was attempting to reduce bookkeeping time. The
other alternative would be to fund until the end of this fiscal year,
Mayor Norton noted that if it 1e to be a five -month contract, Council will
have to define how the money will be doled out.
Councilwoman Witherspoon realized on of the questions she did not ask
at the committee meeting was to request a list of names of the Board
of Directors of Narconon. The names of the officers are in the folder,
but not the Board of Directors.
She was informed that the officers are also the entire Board of Directors.
Councilwoman Witherspoon expressed concern that there is not a more
broad -based representation of the community, Also, in the service area
she did not believe the program of crisis intervention with paramedics
was mentioned.
Vice Mayor Clay replied that he had described the motion in general
terms and he was inclined to follow the cr itte recommendation about the
crisis intervention and education portion.
Councilwoman Witherapoon awaked if Vice Mayor Clay contemplated delaying
implm entation of en education component until the school district was
organized.
Vice Mayor Clay thought it should not be precluded. If it could be
worked in, that was fine.
Councilwomman Witherspoon thought that was the area the .V yceea send
interested in providing money for. Sna understood there bad been a
list of priorities presented to the County Drug Abuse Coordinating
Commission for 1976-77. She asked if they in any way related to the
north end of the county and were those prioritise pertinent to the
discussion.
Mts. Fuller replied that they ware not specific. They are generalities.
It is a matter of selecting priorities.
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Councilwoman Witherspoon asked once priorities are selecte4, how does
the commission see they are implemented.
Mrs. Fuller replied that the commission recommends to the Board of
Supervisors, and the Board has to act on the priorities.
Councilman Berwald stated that it was becoming more clear to him ae
the evening wore on that it would be premature to accept either one
of the proposals at this time. He was in agreement with substantially
all of the points Councilman Sher made. In September, 1975, Council
asked staff to solicit proposals for a drug abuse program, and sub-
sequently the oelection advisory committee was formed. The Policy
and Procedures Committee met on December 16. Normally Council would
have before it a recommendation from the Policy and Procedures Committee
that it could have reviewed. Normally that would be in the form of a
recommendation that would have examined the substance of all the
proposals and answered almost all of the questions regarding the fine
tuning of the budget, some of the changes that should be made in the
proposal due to the comments continued in the staff report, further
examination of possibilities of to multiple contractor approach, perhaps
a review of some of the Council's policies with eegard to drug abuse
contraction, something like the Santa Clara County plan. One of the
things that occurred to him this evening is that before a decision is
made, he would like to see this sent back to committee and have the
Policy end Procedures Committee give Council a good deal more ir.forxa-
tion and background on the two propoeala and one of the other proposals
which, while it only addressed education in the schools, was an existing
program in the area. If this is sent back to committee and kept in
committee, when the Finance and Public Works Committee approves the
budget, we would have a good deal more information regarding the entire
social program. The committee physically did not have time to really
do the job and that resulted in the 2-2 tie. We should really ignore some
of the comments that were made about how two of the committee members
made up their mind. These are charges that come from small minds. They
do not merit any dignified answer. Everyone feels strongly about this
matter. Council Chambers have been full whenever drug abuse has been
discussed. All of this kind of discussion that occurred tonight might
have taken place in the Policy and Procedures Committee. He had questions
about hot line crisis, about apportionment of funds, the danger of
year -long contracts when we have not approved the budget for next year.
After we have had the committee's recommendation, what do you recommend
be the long-range city policy about drug abuse. A lot of questions
are not answered, and he would not be able to approve either one of
the proposals. Be said he has great regard for Pathways. He served on
the county drug abuse commission. He has been the recipient of many
proposals from Pathways. He has great regard for i+iarconon. He thought
it would be folly for Council to turn their backs on them completely. He
chid not see any depth coming into this decision. Council made its
previous decision on the basis of what it thought was adequate background
and got into trouble. Then it was politics, and tonight it seams to be
religion. Drug abuse is a very polarizing aubjec. to this Council.
There are so many people in the audience who have done a tremendous job
in this area, he thought it was a sad commentary to sit in a meeting
and see citizens get into mad carpe about each other's programs.
We are all trying to solve the problem of drug abuse, but he thought it
was premature . this evening to emaks a decision on either one.
14flXON: Councilman Berwald moved, seconded by Sher, that the question
of a drug abuse contract be retained in committee pending a review of
the social 'evicts activity, for recommendation and consideration in the
ensuing budget year.
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►iayor Norton opposed the motion to refer. He felt he matter had been
before Council long enough. It seems to get worse every time it comes
back. He did not think any further information would change any minds.
He thought Council should vote on it tonight.
Vice Mayor Clay agreed with Mayor Norton. He said Council had thrashed
this issue around more than any other in the history of Palo Alto. There
is no point in referring it back to the committee when all of the committee
members and more are here right now.
The motion to refer failed on the following vote:
AYES: Berwald, Sher
NOES: Beahrs, Carey, Clay, Comstock,
Eyerly, Norton, Witherspoon
Councilman Eyerly asked Vice Mayor Clay to comment on how he anticipated
the funde to be allotted to Narconon.
Vice Mayor Clay noted that there is enough money in the budget to go the
remainder of this fiscal year and next year. $15,000 is the. retainer.
The other portion based on success cannot be prorated.
Councilman Beahrs commented that you can talk a subject to death, and if
that is the case, drug abuse is dead in this town. He said he had been
chided by his friends as having changed his position. Actually he was
making a choice of evils. Again, he stated he felt drug abuse is a
regional problem, and he has compassion in his soul, but he thinks the
taxpayer cannot bail everyone out. Nevertheless, it has been the policy
of this Council and the previous Council to give reasonable support to
drug abuse. He felt the case had been well established for Narconon
tonight. He was embarrassed for having posed the issue between Scientology
and the psychiatric community. His personal loyalties are to the psychia-
tric community. He said no one has the answers to all religion. He felt
morally convinced that the gentlemen who are working with Narconon are
not bigots or dedicated to Scientology, and he thought for a short-term
commitment and also in support of Council's long-standing policy, some
effort in this town is supportable at all levels.
Vice Mayor Clay clarified the funding portion as follows: 5/12 of the
retainer and 5/12 of 100 persons for the remainder of this fiscal year,
with the assumption that the funding will be veconsidered for the next
fiscal year.
Councilman Comstock stated he wee trying to find some way to say nicely
what be was going to say. Sometime ago Council received proposals which
addressed themselves to the conteuts of the RFP. As best he can see, the
existing motion ignores all of that and constructs au entirely new
system which Council did not ask anyone to propose. The maker of the
motion was not clear as to how this would work. by voting for this, he
felt Council was doing staff a disservice and Narconon and everyone else
a disservice. He hoped the motion • uld fail. If not, Council will
have rewritten an RFP on the spot.
Councilman berwald agreed that for Council to sit up here and construct
a contract in ten minutes is; folly. He said his motion 'to refer was not
to refer the motion but to refer the whole matter.
MOTION RESTATED: Vice Mayor Clay moved, with the agreaa►ent of second,
that Council select klarcuuou of Palo Alto as a contractor to provide
drug abuse prevention and treatment services to the City of Palo Alto
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and staff be directed to develop a contract appropriately defining the
scope of cervices and that a compensation plan be based on -the follow-
ing formula: 5/12 of $15,000 retainer; ,250 per .Palo Alto resident
successfully served or who completes a certain minimum number of hours'
treatment or whatever other standard that the city staff and the proposed
contractor can agree upon, up to a maximum of 5/12 of 100 persons, or
5/12 of $25,000 for the period commending February 1 to June 30, 1976.
The motion as restated passed on the following vote:
AYES: Beabrs, Carey, Clay, Eyerly, Norton
NOES: ffierwald, C.oeastock, Sher, Witherspoon
Mayor Norton thanked the committee representatives for coming to the
meeting.
MUM IC HEARING RE DRAFT EIR - ADVANCE
WASTE TREA. F MUTES PALO ALTO
'AL TY CONTROL PLANT (fit: 299: o)
Mayor Norton announced that this is the time and place when and where any
and all interested persona may be heard on the issue of the adequacy of
the 'raft invir,r entel impact Report, Advanced Waste Treatment Facilities,
Palo Alto Water Quality Control Plant, dated December, 1975. He declared
the public hearing open,
Let the record show that the City Clerk has filed an affidavit of publica-
tion of notice of :his hearing and that various communications from the
public, the staff, and the consultant have been received and filed. The
Council has received the staff report on this project and will now hear a
s: ry of this project by the consultant team staff.
Mr. Jenks, project leader of the consultant's team, commented that the
result of the efforts before Council were not only from their office
but from the city staff itself. They have worked with city staff for
several months. be said it has been very much of a team effort. He
noted that the City of Palo Alto had an outstanding waste water disposal
system, and plans to improve it are the direct result of changed require-
ments of the Regional Water Quality Control loard. The changes will
enhance the level of treatment, not the capacity of treatment. Without
giving technical details, their task has been, given a new set of
requirements, to decide what is the best program to develop to meet the
nee requirements. They feel they have been successful.
Mr. Jenks indicated that three processes were studied to achieve the
waterquality objectives established by the Regional Water Quality
Control board. 1) Second stage activated sludge iactlitiee aeration
tanks followed by final eettling tanks, 2) plastic media biological
filter after /elating primary nettling tanks with enlarge existing
aeration system, and 3) rotating biological contactors following
existing aeration systems.
Mr. Jenks explained that option (2) utilising the plastic media biologi-
cal filter proved to be the lit capital cost - least operating coat
atturuative. He also said that the plastic media filter required the
least spec. for installation and provided the most flexible facility
for future capacity additions. The plastic media option viii utilise
one third the electrical energy required by the treditioasal activated
sludge option end only a very slight amount more than the rotating
biological contactor option.
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William J. Miller of J. B. Gilbert 6 Associates summarized the
environmental impacts of the proposed project. Hereferred to pages 8
and 9 of the draft environmental impact report and referred to a table
on page 95.
Councilwoman Witherspoon asked if the population increase of 13,000 persons
included the total area served by the water treatment plant or just Palo
Alto. Mr. Miller replied that it was the total area served.
In response to Councilman Sher, Mr. Miller said that the proposed
structures are not as tall as the existing facility and that the square
footage would be .68 acres turned into square feet. (29,670 square feet)
Councilman Sher asked what the small increase in odor and noise would mean
to the experience of the passing person.
Mr. Miller replied that it is more or less purely subjective.
Councilman Sher said that you know it is going to be there, but it is not
going to be much. Is that right?
Yir. Killer responded affirmatively.
Councilman Sher spoke of electric energy demands and said that Council
recently talked about another facility in the Baylands. He asked if there
were any possibility for solar or wind energy to provide that demand.
Mr. Miller replied that his guess would be that it probably would not be
because the demand on that kind of facility would be quite high, and it
would require a sLjor capital investment to have a facility available to
handle it.
Councilman Sher asked how much. Mr. Miller replied approximately three
million KWH. Their total annual consumption is 725 million KWH.
Mr. Jenks noted that they have been sensitive to the concern Councilman
Sher was expressing. They Nava developed a project that would minimize
the impact of the use of resource energy.
Councilman Berwald referred to the third page of the staff memo and said
there are some population figures that he understands are just Palo Alto,
including Barron Park, but on pegs 63, there are some other figures which
included Stanford. Is the determinant of the project design the popula-
tion figures in the report or the figures in the *toff report. Secondly,
will Stanford actually grow that much in population on property that is
in the academic reserve, because the other residential properties that
would be built would become part of the City of Palo Alto.
Ray Remmel, Chief Engineer, Water -Gas -Sower Division, replied that the
Stanford population is approximately 10,E and is expected to remain at
that level.
Councilman Berwald said that when the original water quality control plant
was built, the subject was in the Finance and Public Works Committee for
several weeks, send they had referred to them the queetiou of rates and
the contract with the other jurisdictions, the design of the plant and a
number of other things, and he asked for staff's feeling about the Finance
and Public Works Comnittee looking at this contract, etc.
Mr. Rommel said that staff will come back to Council with a proposed
program, including the contract sward phases, etc.
Councilman Beers asked if the city is proved completely wrong in its
hopes as far as the development of the foothills is concerned, do we
have enough margin to take care of the problem in our projects.
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Mr. George Sipel, City Manager, replied that his guess is that if the
foothills were rezoned to what they were before, it wcu2d not be a
problem.
Mayor Norton asked members of the Coen;il to comment on the Draft Environ-
mental Impact Report, after which they would hear from the city's partner
agencies in the Water Quality Control Plant and the public, and then
return the matter to the Council for further discussion.
Since no one wished to speak, the matter was returned to Council for
discussion.
Councilman Berwald stated that he wanted to be convinced that this is the
best and most up-to-date type of treatment that can be provided and that
within the time constraints that the city is given by higher goverment
authorities, is there anything elese that, even if it were post costly,
would be less environmentally disruptive or provide greater efficiency
or greeter water quality.
Mr. Jenks replied -that this particular process suggested was the result
of their becoming aware of an alternative that had been recently utilized
in one or two plants in the nation. Indianapolis spent a couple of
yoare piloting a process from the standpoint of all of the factors
Councilman Berwald mentioned, In view of the fact tt had not been widely
utilized, the City's consultant and staff felt it was necessary to
actually undertake a pilot testing program here on the site. That was
the basis on which the pilot plant program was undertaken, and it
proved to be imminently successful and established the fact that it is
an embodiment of a new concept that has economic, energy saving, land
utilization, and reliability factors, It has happily accomplished all
of the objectives that were listed.
Mir. Remmel commented that the pilot project itself has really paid off.
They projected unit coat in San Jose is $420,000 per million gallons
treated while our cosh is $280,000 per million gallons treated.
Mayor Norton informed members of the audience that written comments may
be received by the city until Thursday, January 15.
MOTION: Councilman beahrs moved, seconded by Berwald, that Council finds
that the Draft Environmental Impact Report on the Mvenced Waste Treatment
Facilities, Palo Alto Water Quality Control Plant, dated December, 1975,
together with the additional data both written and oral, submitted during
ells hearing, is sufficient under the requirements of the California
Environmental Quality Act as to the project delineated in the Draft
Environmental Impact Report be prepared for review by the Council.
The .xotion passed on a unanimous vote;
Mayor Norton declared the public hearing closed and thanked the consultants
for staying so late.
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No one aaddtassed Council under Oral Communications.
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MOTION: Counc i man Comstock moved, seconded by Carey, that the meeting
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adjourn until 7:30 p.m., Monday, January }9, with the rest of the agenda
to be taken up at that time.
The motion passed on a unanimous vote.
ATTEST:
City Clerk/' ;
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APPROVE:
Mayor