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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-10-02 City Council Summary MinutesRegular Meeting October 2, 1978 ITEM PAGE : Minutes of September 51 1978 1 9 9 Oral Communications 1 9 9 Consent Calendar - Action Items Foothills Fire Management Plan 2 0 0 670 San Antonio Road - Establishment of Fire Zone 3 2 0 0 1131 SAn Antonio Road - Prezoning to L -M-1-0 2 0 0 Bel Parka Phase 1 Landscaping and Other Improvements 2 0 0 Authorization, Issuance anJ Sale of Utility Systems Revenue 2 0 0 Bonds: Adding Chapter 12.28 to Title 12 of Municipal Code Palo Alto Yacht Harbor - installation of Landscape Improvements 2 0 0 Eetab1ishment of Special Speed Zones - Revision of Chapter 10.56 2 0 1 of the Palo Alto Municipal Code ABAG - Environmental Management Plan - Adoption of Resolution to 2 0 1 Serve as Management Agreement for Water Quality Management Plan Santa Clara County Transit District - Line 31 2 0 1 South Bay Cooperative Library System - Application for Funds 2 0 1 Move Item 12 Forward 2 0 1 Request of Counci ter Sher re Proposed Liquor Store at 2688 2 0 1 Middlefield Road Meyor Carey re Resolution Recognizing Hal Lawrence for His Glider 2 0 4 Plan !Achievement Adjournment to Executive Session 2 0 5 Proposed Settlement of Graham vs City of Palo Alto 2 0 6 Public Hearing - Sand Hill Road Improvement Project: Supplementai EAR 2 0 6 Oral Commrunications 2 1 7 Councl lmem ber Eyerly re Letter From San Francisco Opera Guild 2 1 7 Adjournmment 2 1 7 Regular Meeting October 2, 1978 The City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on this date at 7:30 p.m. in a regular meeting, with Mayor Carey presiding. PRESENT: Brenner, Carey, Clay, Eyerly,Fletcher, Henderson, Sher, Witherspoon ABSENT: Fazzinu M9IM61TES °! SEPTQ ER 5, 1978 Vice Mayor Henderson referred to page 135, third paragraph, He asked that the sentence beginning on the eighth line read instead, "Vice Mayor Henderson said he did not believe the project was for the purpose of researching +energy saving;. . . " Vice Mayor Henderson referred to page 137, fourth paragraph, and asked that the last sentence read instead: "If the developer wants to go ahead with an apartment development, so be it." Counci her Brenner referred to page 128, second. paragraph, and _asked that the second and third sentences read instead "She' tad read documents that described a 45 -foot right of way from the center' of Arastradero northerly toward Stanford to be improved within five years', and the date of the document was 1969. She thought an E!R should be required on the total effect of the proposed three projects. . . Council .per 9renner referred to page' 1 5, - and third sentences read instead: "Council applications for condominiums, and to app!,. hensi ve Plan in that review. Former R -5-L-9' only n few times, and was not considerrred' to' and asked 'that the second was -required to review the prtnctples of the C pr - zoning had been applied for be a successful zone." Councilmember Brunner asked that the two nit-toilest sentences on page 135, last paragraph, read- instead: "She- did• not' thi nk that with the p1 anned prices of the condom# nips' the woul d-' don earl' to right the job housing imbalance, and old instead • r-congesten' already crowded ne1ghborhaod. About 600 ni jabs in the- Cftyof Paco- Alto hed just been creates by eel's approval- of-ta ladostriat-projst` earlier that evening." Ctunc1lmember Bremner asked that on peas` "i36, t ' eleventh have added -to it, "!n that; case' t e trc si es`serv+ to different." MOTION:--Councilmember C1 ay moved, sew' b;y'Nender/s�en,, that Council ap vote. as �t 4' a meo en ameniscus voice t1 & Cfl WICATIi Nona MST MOM Referral It 3 None 199 10/2/TO Action Items FOOTHILLS FIRE MANAGEMENT PLAN (C1 :317:8 and CMR:429:8) A list of questions and answers regarding a uniform fire code method of fire prevention has- been railed to' all Palo' Alto residents who live in the foothills area. ..ORDINANCE 307a entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL — —CITY OF PALO ALTO 'MENDING APPENDIX E OF THE UNIFORM FIRE CODE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FIRE PREVENTION REQUIREMENTS FOR LAND WEST OF JI*!PERO SERRA FREEWAY." —(First redsng 7/24/78) 670 SAN ANTONIO ROAD niturrorrirrnt_ ZONE 3 ORDINANCE 3080 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COIL OF THE CITY Of PALO ALTO AMEND I NG SECTION 16.04.180 (OFFICIAL FIRE ZONE MAP) OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL COOE TO ESTAB? I SH FIRE ZONE 3 10R THE PROPERTY AT 670 SAN ANTONIO ROAD." (First reading 9/18/78) 1131 SAN ANTONIO ROAD 081 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING SECTION 18.08.0 40 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE TO PREZONE PROPERTY KNOWN AS 1131 SAN ANTONIO ROAD TO LM -1-0.° (First reading 9/18/78) ROL PARK -(P ig rIveg CiP ORDINANCE 3082 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE tOUNEM-Ortgr CITY OF PALO ALTO APPROVING AND ADOPTING A PLAN FOR THE COi%STR,UCTIM OF PHASE I1 LANDSCAPING AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS IN 80L PAM" (First reading 9/11/78) ORDINANCE : enti t1 ed "0DUNA CE -UF THE CITY OF PALO CHAPTER 12.28 TO TAE 12 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CORE. RELATING TO PROCEDURES FOR THE AUTHORIZATION, ISSUANCE AND SALE 0f UTILITY SYSTEMS REVENUE DONDS." (First eeedf,g .9/11 78) (Clay and Sher voting "no") OROI1 E 3084 entitled "OROINI E' OF. THE OWL E TC Tv 0f PALO ALTO WENDS A)*D ACOPTI A PLAN FOR 1 MSTALLATIN OF LANDSCAPE VMPROVEMENTS IN THE PALO ALTO YACHT HARM." (First reeling 9/11/78) ESTABLISHMENT OF SPECIAL SPEED ZONES grnJ trtrrtillArtrIrTrerillt— sh i ORDINANCE 3085 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL DP" TA CITY OF PALO ALTO REVISING CHAPTER 10.56 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE ESTABLISHING SPECIAL SPEED ZONES." (First Reading 9/11/78) ABA - ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT P ITY RESOLUTION_5595 entitled "RESOLUTION_OF THE COUNCIL OF ` f CITY OF PALO ALTO' OF It1TE! T$Ok TO IMPLEMENT THOSE PORTIONS OF THE ASSOCIATION OF BAY AREA GOVERNMENTS ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT PLAN RELATING TO WATER QUALITY." SANTA CLARA COUNTY-}RANSIT DISTRICT rwrarrivireniggink IA *"'"'"71`that the proposed elimination of Line 31 service will have no significant environmental impact; 2) approve SCCTD's proposal to eliminate Line 31 service entirely, SOUTH BAY COOPERATIVE LIBRARY S RESOLUTION 5596 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF- P _i AMAUT43RIZING PARTICIPATION IN THE CALIFORNIA LIBRARY SERVICES ACT." MOTION: 'Councilmember Witherspoon moved, seconded by Fletcher, that Council approve the consent calendar, with.Councilmember Brenner voting "no" on prezoning of 1131 San Antonio -Road, and Councilmambnrs Clay and Sher voting "no" on the ratter is issuance and -sale of- uti l i ty system revenue bonds, and Couneilserrrber Fazzino absent. MINE ITEM 12 FORWARD Mayor Carey said that the Sand Hill Road matter was. the next consideration on the agenda, however, since several Councilmembers old not be partici- pating in that he would entertain a motion -that the. matter of the proposed liquor store at 2688 Middlefield Road be moved forward. MOTION: Vice Mayor Henderson moved, seconded -by Sher, that the matter of the proposed liquor store be moved forward on the agenda. The motion passed on a unanimous voice vote, Councilmember Fazzino absent. Councilmember Sher retailed he had writ r s- a memorandum about the primed .liquor store September 28, 1978. A member of the neighborhood association protesting the issuanorof the license had contacted h*. The citizen had asked that City staff check to seer if traffic and congestion thus generated" might not disturb' the adjacent neighborhood. If it were ascertained ties then mould be such a disturbance. Councilmember err. said he would life' to ask the City' Attorney's office 201 10/2/78 01, 0 # 1 1 if anything could be done, in connection with the pending appeal from approval by the• Alcoholic- Beverage Control (ABC)' of the license. MOTION: Councilmember Sher moved, seconded. bee Henderson, that staff be requested to look into the grounds' for, and merits of, protest of this liquor license, and also the question -of whether or. not there are legitimate grounds for the City to take part in' the' appeal' of the ABC decision. Mayor Carey asked if any member from the public would like to speak to the matter. There were none. Mayor Carey asked if staff had any report. Ken Schreiber, Assistant Director of Planning and- Con+uni ty Environment, said staff- had looked' at several' facets of the situation; 'The area was zoned Neighborhood Corsnercfal and it allowed' off -sale. liquor stores. A use permit was not required. City involvement would' be ARB review of any proposed signs: Mr. Noguchi of the Traffic Engineering department did not think there`was any significant difference between' the proposed liquor store use- and other' permitted us.+ese' that is-, such -retail services as drug store, dry- cleaning and so on. Neightiorhood'C ercial was in the• lowest- category, and traffic- impact- from a liquor store would not be noticeably different from other permitted uses. Vice- Mayor Henderson said he thought the staff analysis differed from what neighborhoodpeople felt would be -the case. They -thought ",..it was a lousy location for a liquor store."' He' asked -what -was needed for the Council to be able to -recommend the upholding- of the' appeal by the residents. Was a -traffic count needed or-did•there have to be zoning violation,- or could Council say it thought a' cut-deesac (on Bryson) was not suitable? Corrected see page 271. Mr. Schreibersaid it was acknowledged' than the -area -would have traffic probl sns , but it- was not thought' this use' would be• different fr m other permitted uses. Marilyn Norek Taketa, Senior Assistant -City At♦surrey,- said the City did have concern:` and- thoseconcerns' could be i'fed" to- the -ABC through the protesting neighborhood group,' though she -did not think the. City had the right to stop the issuance of a- Zicenaa;` it- did not appear- that any City ordinances were being violated. She did' not know when. the City should act. It could act soon if timing was critical. Vice Mayor Henderson said- he favored the idea- of having - tile City write a letter to ABC tel I i erg of its concerns.= Couanc1)s. ber Sher expressed dis « • intent in' the- staff -report. He had been told : by staff that ' i t would- = ' best. if Council' were' to direct staff to investigate the matter.- ' He` did not think- all-of"the* aflegatlons by the neighborhood association. had' been "thoroughly reviewed. " 'He understood there was ample time, about` 60 days, to' appeal the' decision. He had been ware of those matters' the' staff had ' reported on tonight; the grounds ofe the pretest had dealt' with' di ("fewest' issuer, such' as dt s turbance of the neighborhood by l nordi nete traffic, such' as beer -trucks and the like, He had known -that there -was' no' -way the license' could be held up -- he had thought a thorough review of the problems should form the base for a coerminication to` the Al 1 tc- t verega' Control' board: He was not prepared, u Vice Mayor Henderson had- suggested', to awe' that a letter be seat to, s .. ing infor�i1y' that a a� ' would be caused. He thought an objet ve look' it the- probl e* generated by the proposed liquor store` had to be' the. base for the- letter.',' He - wanted' h i s notion to stare,- and be wanted staff' to take- a' good' look' at' the- problem and report back wi the n a wok or too 202 10/278 Mayor Carey said he had asked staff to respond -tonight. to the limited question about whether or not the' proposed liquor' store' in' that location violated any City ordinances; the' question' about- whether err not the City should oppose the liquor store in that location at•the-state level had not been spoken to. Counci lmember Witherspoon said she did not' understand what Councf lr ember Sher wanted to direct the staff to do. ' Was the' license. that had been applied for to be for -beer and wine? Mr. Schreiber replied that the ful l - range of alcoholic -beverages was to be sold. Councf 1member' Wl herspoon said she did. not' know what- the Cf ty coul d legally do nor what it was appropriate' to'. do. -She* favored having a reputable company such as Bel tramo's in' Menlo- Park- handle the Middlefield Road liquor store. George Sipel, City Manager, said' he thought' the- staff could perhaps report again one the City regulations',. or staff could find -substantiating data if Council wished to. protest. it would-be' wrong to. engender false hopes that the City could reinterpret- the zoning ordinance to prevent the proposed liquor store from locating there.. Councilmber Brenner said the problem- indicated that the -classification of Neighborhood Cc ercial was too broad. The' issue' was' the entrance to the residential cul de sac. The -existing' store ".. , is' a' bit out of key already," though it did not attract the traffic -that a liquor store would attract from the region. She hoped Council' could express disapproval of having that particular use at that particular --location.. The Council, s:e thought, should develop the rationale for that. The -motion before there suggested that staff help Council to do so. Councilmember Fletcher said that' she hoped staff -took. into- consideration that the proposed liquor store -would -front -on a' neighborhood cul de sac. Councilmember Sher agreed that beltramo's was.a good store as it was now situated in Menlo Park at- its p: esent location.- lie' thou staff night be feply#ergt however, that any- use per fitted under the current zoning was obviously something about which nee could- be -no complaint. Council - meaber Sher said the ABC i i eeeesing- procedure -took into' consideration more factors than whether- or not the zoning was proper: He thought staff should assess the result. of traffic impact an the- neighborhood, though the zone was acrittedly okay. Then- staff' could- let' Council luxes the appropriate way to • have its- voice tarct on' tip appeal ; - Council could then decide what to do. Vice Mayor Henderson said that as' second' to . the estieerhe. wanted data from staff leading toward Council'. s joining* the- appeal' to* the Department of hl l i c Beverages, so that' Counci l - coul d judge 1f• the data was sufficient for joining the appeal. Councilmember Clay said he thought' the- topic had- to- dowith whether or not liquor stores should be i ncorporated- w ith- other Neighborhood Commerci a l uses. If Council decided- they should' be 'the -question- *Quid be %tether or net the proposed stare' was different- frith other similar storms . bt1 thout ors to 'Me two question them' was no base* from ,which . to, approach the ABC. He would not support the , Mayor Carty aid that -normally Council -gave -the pubtic an opportunity to speak au a topic, as' he- had earlier. on' this. ' • speaker had since C400 forth; he would permit the speakerwith-tbrclear understanding that it .was a departure from normal'procedure; Co'unc 1' would not engage in a dialogue with the speaker. 203 10/2/18 0 1 Glen Dodds, 588 Bryson Avenue-, sald°the neighborhood:association had until-. October_ 5 to give a check for $600 to the ABC 1n- Sacramento, upon receipt . of which- the -ABC would start the appeal -process.. There had been one public hearing on the' proposed -store -back in -August, end that had taken one --half hour. Mr. Dodds' liztad the. businesses- now in the present neighborhood shopping center that sold bear-or.wtnee.-He' thought there were about 19,000 cars. a day down Middlefield Road. • There were three churches; there was a nursery school next to the proposed -liquor store location. He thought the largest -issue was -public safety: The on -site circulation of traffic ".'..ryas- terrible,' to soy: the _least." • The entrance was to be on Bryson, which funneled traffic.d n ".:.the• only entrance to our street." That presented problems for' access -by emergency vehicles. Councilmemberr Sher asked how long before. the- next -hearing- if- the neighbor- hood association' wiled in the $600 fee. Mr. Dodds replied .that - i t cou l d be - as - l ong'. as' two' months ; perhaps it would be- shorter°: - Council would - have about twwmonths-maximum to decide to join in the appeal. Courcilr ber Eyerly said he was - supporti ve oft'he motion . -He thought that if,Councit' passed it, staff•shoutd lnctocir':comments regarding issuance of a' use permit which -would* revolve around• the- f act of the hours a liquor -store adjacent• to a residential' area' should be open. A late -hour store. next- to a residential -area .would make -a' heavy impact, He wondered if a- curb cut' on Bryson had to: be permitted. Mayor Carey said Council spent much money -and- time- on. the' Comprehensive Plan; it was a working' document, though it might have' sore inequities that should be- changed. The motion* did' not raise the- question as to whether or- not -the 'present zoning was. appropriate; it -only reacted to a neighborhood objection. to' a liquor store and what' circumstances 1 c might give rise to. Palo Alto' might look' foolish- ifs- it went to' Sacramento to protest a use which it had already allowed.- -lie did not want staff to drium up argumentss-on matters- into which ABC had-aireadylooked. Their packets contained the questions ABC had. asked'. in- considering this applica- tion for a license et the proposed- l ocati on . He- would -oppose the motion. tiOTIOW PASSED: The- motion- that staff be requested to- look into grounds for, and merits af, protest of this- liquor license;' and -also- the question of whether or not there ere- legltleate- gv un . for -thee -City to take part in • the appeal -of- the- Alcoholic -Beverage Control- OW ° decision, passed on the fol kiwi n►g vote: AYES: Brenner, Eyerly, Fletcher,' derson, Sher NOES: Carer, Clay, Witherspoon MEW: Feezi no Mayor Carey Bald that Hal-Lawreace, a'Palo Altsn;' had, in a glider plane, . ci vigatsd thee- CsOadien-p-Atlantic:Coast;7Caribbeen fin, Texas, and Cat t fornta bnundery points of a Ur1 ted States . ° Tlr . Lawrence vas to arrive -tack at the POO A airpm t° 0ctober-4, at -41;00 p.m. at the Palo Alto airport,' in his glider. NOTION: - Niyor Carey introdecet tlsr foUU*i .resolution- ar►d, seconded, by fir; gyred. that Xl l -com is ltr. Hal -far his aviation fsat is' a -Lark glider- in c1r+ avtgating- tiro~borders of tie United Status' - R£SOLUT1ON.5597 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL e tH£ CITY OF PALO ALTO' RECOGNIZING. HAL LAWRENCE" The motion passed on a unanimous- voice vote,' Council!!member Fazzino absent. ADJOURIMENT TO EXECUTIVE SESSION Council adjourned to executive- session re' litigation on -Graham vs City of Palo Alto, from 9:25 p.n. to 8:50 p.m. PROPOSED SETTLEMENT OF Vice Mayor Henderson read the. fol'lowirig. statesment:.. sine executive session .this evening, Council approved a.proposetsettlementof:Grahem vs. City of Palo Alto now pending in the Superior Court' of Santa Clara County. Plaintiffs own approximately 50- acres of land' adjacent to and below Foothills Park. They claim inverse condemanatiot<.as'a• result of the rezoning -of their property to the OeS (open space) designation in 1972. The City denies the claim. "The parties are in the process of settling the litigation on terms considered favorable to all. The basic terms are as fol i ows : "No money will be exchanged. Rather, tine parties w1l1 exchange land. (The Clty. wi l l pay its own escrow fees' and title- iesurence premiums. Plaintiffs will pay for ali.reguired surveys-and'engineer1ng work contem- plated in addition to their- own- escrz €ees' and ti tl e' i nsu rance premiums.) "The City cans approximately -41 -acres of.land-adjacent-to Plaintiffs' 50 acres. Pientiffs' will transfer to the City approximately 45 acres of their property; 10 acres of.ehich is -designated as.a.gift. The City will place and m aintain a- mar r -on that l0 -acre parcel -in recognition of the gift. The -City, in turn, will transfertai Plaintiffs appreiximmately 20 acres of the* Ci ty is. property. (The property to- be. transferrned from Plaintiffs to the City Is designated on the -attached map as OWNER'S EXCHANGE -PROPERTY -and OWNER'S -GIFT ARTY`. The prupertytxr be transferred to the Plaintiffs- five the City- is. designated' on the. map es CITY'S EXCHANGE PROPERTY.) "As -a . result of these mutual transfers. City's. ownership. m 11 increase from 7 to 66. acres.; Pi ai nti ffs s+m11 T men- apprex1aate1y 25 acres upon. which they contemplate -development- for -residential subdivision, purposes. If the" properties- of" Plaintiffs .entt the City- wt.combined, the 0-S designation .wouldpermit, moon other -ihi :' nit*: residential units on the- total. 91. acres. I n ' accordance ' wi th cluster- and density transfer principles, which serve to achieve • the• purpose-. of the' 0-S zone, the permitted coined fifty- of mine' units' will 'be allocated -to Plaintiffs' 25 ems. "Prior, try.aty transfer;. Plaintiffs- will- apply for a subdivision of the entire 91 ass; ` Plaintiffs will provide the -necessary subdivision maps, parcelamps; and ap11cat1ons to create -their' nine' lots plus the Ci +'s 661 -acre- lot. City- approval' will' be granted -only after full consideration. and- r vier- by City- staff, the- Pisani Ong CrAinission, end the Council at public- meetings- in- accordance* with:the-law.' Alttough the contemplated settlement and -transfers' of land are- contingent upon such ultimate approval : . the City- is not precr mi teed to- grant' such approval . 205 10/2/78 "Since' litigation-. is' still pending,- this. is the- extent' of any canrnent on the proposed settlement which can be made." Vice Mayor Henderson said copies- of the' statement' he had just read were available on the'tabte in the Councilchamber and -at the'City Attorney's office. 3�1PF�N HEARING --SAND HILL ROAD Al. CIR msumerEMWT (NOTE: MINUTES AS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL- ACTION Of' OCTOBER 10, 1978) Vice Mayor Henderson announced that after the-publ-ic-:hearing op the Sand Hill Road_ Supplemental • Revised' Environmental Impact -Report (SR/EIR). was closed, . the consultants' would have' an. opportunity' to' respond to cents made during_ the raring; ten- the' Council' would -discuss the SR/EIR. After that evening- (October 2; '1978) the' staff and consul tents would have an opportunity • to provide'any- requested informtion•and to furnish further responses- to any. coarnents-made. • Council ..would take up the SR/E IR again Tuesday, October •10. At that •titr '. would- consider a motion on the sufficiency of the SR/EIR. Only aftar.approving the SR/ELR could Council discuss and take action- on the project and. any -alternative road align ents.and'related•issues. -Vice Mayor. Henderson- declared the public hearing open. He called on' Miss. Emily Renzel , Chairwomen -for the Planning CorMission, to give the Planning'Commission's-report on the SR/EIR. Emily- Renee]; Chairworan frr the Planning'.Cc rission,' said "I think the transmittal dated September 28' petty-much-.expresses'the actions of the Planning Cc:omission. on -the SR/EIR. We' did find- that it -w s- sufficient to snake a decision and our official' planning' action was to. rule that it was in conformance with the Comprehensive -Plan- and- there' were' ha) dissenters on the Cociraissicri with respect to• the- four -lane alternative on that aspect." Doug Donaldson,- E.1;P. Corporation, 319 Eleventh' Street,- San Francisco, 94103, said "I_, have- one -issue' that -has' come- up` aince-wir completed our review, with -the. Planning' Coatrission',' in' fact; just"ln' the' last several weeks, and I'd like to • mention -it tonight.' -Recently a -letter was sent from'. the City of Menlo Park- to -the- Director -of -Public- Worts (of Palo Alto) . discussing • some -charges' in' their decisions'. regarding the Oak Avenue intersection' with Sand* Hill -Road. I'd like' to.. reed a portion of that letter' and make scow its - on it'. as` to -how' it -relates to the supplemental revised EIR." 'The' on. Park Cite Council, at their seretilag .of September -12; 1978,' changed` their' previous' decision on proposed improvements' to the Oak Avenue/Sand-Mill Road .intersection. At that meeti ng - tom' Council' chose Alternate" 2s whin allows- right* turns only in and out-. of Oak Avenue: i' This is a' different configgratf of from the improvements presently -incIpaled-. in. the-- plan' an':which'ate•uhowr� on the well back . here -and the SR/EIR. Those 'plans called- for -a' left turn out of Oak Avenue- and a- right turn -into Oak Avenue: The -letter goes on and notes that there is attached a copy 'of- r.trafftc- report' by ROM Associates showing -Alit: intact- of the various alternatives' that -.the City of Menlo Park considered. 'You'll note' that' th*ve' It approximately 200 vehicles a day difference a Oak Avenue,' and' 100 to :150. vsh1 cies " a- day difference on Oakdal e 'r2 ve -beta n the two -alternates. '.. t' feel - that- is an i ns i gni - ficant d ffeY a end -amid therefore-- not' affect' the' traffic- projections as _stated .in the SR/EIR." And -thew the' "1*tt r•.'1s-si -by the Director of Public: Works -- fral Menlo- Park . ' Welt 1 tke to -.'cue enrt - bri ef1y on that end would mike a . Viral ' s totorment -that etc effect of , al l c1 ng right turns in and right turns 'out frog -Oak Amine would• probably have a beneficial effect- on the •genetel traffic' fl ow along- Sand- Hi11- Road, from 2©8 10/2/78 Corrected see page 2/1. aZoeo an overall standpoint. The change does', . wmy opinion anyway, not require. any additional -work -on -the EIR for -several -reasons; it does not appear to be a substantial change -in -the overall project'end the project's consequences and I'd like to point -out -in -making -that statement that the EIR process is designed:at looking' at' adverse'.affects, looking at "worst case" situations -and -that -is exactly what has' happened- by• the supplemental revised.EUR including in its project -description the -previous Alternate 4 that Menlo Park -had chosen. And -finally -I want to‘make-the point that there 1s expensive docta entation- inn they entire' record; in the oriuinal Willow Road E U R, the supplemental - revs sed E IR :and -all of the other material that has been incorporated into -those doct nts' by reference, plus the traffic data- that the City- of Menlo -Park has -had prepared on the different choices that they' were - consi der -Inge - and' that based on this expensive documentation I - think- that- there ts- more' than -adequate infor- mation 1n. front of the -Council, .a' weal'th'of information"fn• front of the Council, to make a reasonably infonrred" cislon' about' the -environmental consequences of the project as a- whole and specifically es it relates to this change. And that would be the extent of'ray comments right now; I would turn it back to you, e Kr . Mayor;' to go on -with -the -public hearing." Vice Mayor Alan Henderson said °Thank your X wroul d. cote at this point that we received quite a number of letters' and you might call them, small petitions, in our packet -and here tonight -there -have -been a ?ember of items delivered to us, and it all becomes part -of the official record. At this point I would call on members of the public. . . :We have, tonight, to speak only specifically to the SR/EIR. Next -Tuesday evening the meeting will be open to public testimony . on the -plans the el ves . Now if there are any people here tonight-who:wish- to -speak on the plans and simply cannot be -here next Tuesday night, I would permit them to speak at this point, and it will become a' part. of ac sl i ghtl y different record.. We certainly wouldn't want to deprive you of that input. I waited to remind speakers that -we have the full -verbatim minutes from the Planning Commission, and they are -part of the-SR/EIR-so there isn't a need to repeat whatever you may have said before the -Planning Commission, though' of course I welcome you to say etatever'you-wish- to say within our usual five-minute time limit. ." 0etsy glass, :133 Churchill, sai dshe cou d -not attend- tine October 10 meeting.. Her juror - concern -was . P ... t#re adverse' impact7o1' the proposed four -lane road through the grove' of trees' adjacent'to ' i ; ' MMgnin's, and close to the -banks of San Francisquito Crr ek4rwith 4 median of 70 feet." She had tten : Counci t -and spoken at the Planning'Commission meeting regarding that alignment;- She- said- that't a prcposed..right-turn-only at Oak Ave**, along with a s ignal - far- bi r.ycfes;. a 'Id '#aye :: - relieve- conga tton and . so v*y : w l d' fo r- l aan s be ' necessary? She tged thy',' -since, traffic vole told increase on Sand hill .Rost because of -the -new connection and removal...of bottleneck at Oak, levelvof-coegestiotrwould increase at the Santa Cruz end El Za dno' intersect1on o Yet'she said, it had'been stated thet increased capacity "...would improve' traffic' substantially butwould=not increase the capaci ty above the- font' o1 uae . " She thought the four- i ace project was dots 1 fined, . i t ap red; - ax a short-term solution to. a long-term problems, that, for Palo'Alto, would continue for years to + ; She thocrght, Since the present: EMR Tres found to be sufficient, -that the-present-Coup1 _was:not:bount to the actions of previous councils, and so it -could .start again"' oe -the appropriate alignment She hoped-aless-expensive-and'combersomeillternative could be found. Fred Elnsk, 1300 Oak Creek -Drive,' snit he' did- n think' either the 1975 or the.present EIR repiesented- al l - Contltoet c s. ' le. thought the four -lap'. rued would -generate n traffic:' stfce'tt= a tined to El Camim Real. He thought -about $5_ eot111 on ' of- the $8 aai 1'11 on' to be paid to constructthe road would-be pti d ' by people - i n the --assessment district. 207 10/2/78 Joseph Carleton, 2350 Ross, said he -was- a. registered professional engineer in California. He said the supplemental revised'.environmental impact report was insufficient and -inadequate. The SR/EIR did not sufficiently justify the. project; it was not proven' that -the project would accomplish what it was designed -to do; the' 'no=build" and other alternatives he had suggested. to Council -in his letter -of April 22 were' not sufficiently discussed. '"...a - number •of inconsistencies :and outright' contradictions in the SR/EIR" rendered it suspect. • One- such contradiction, he said, was that the SR/EIR said` the project would suite' specified. changes, yet anotter.statament said the Santa' Crtz intersection'would-avavain basically the smae.:he said- the SR/EIR. contained no inforsmtioneon' traffic flow at the. Santa-. Cruz intersection 'Me said that -was - the' problem- spot, not, the Oak Avenue intersection. He' had- collected • data' for' the Santa Cruz intersection, traffic. flow and also traffic -_fl ar•along i blow Road. He concluded. that_ the intersection -was 'the problesrr, and* he- gave' a suggestion on how.it could be ameliorated "..;at perhaps one -twentieth of the project's cost." He said- that those who wa ted .the project held thet the- bottleneck was: at Oak -Avenue, and- not Santa. Cruz-, **because otherwise there - o ld be -nu justification* for going'. alead".witb the. project. He cited contradictions among traffic -studies' and'.projections and the SR/EIR, concluding that any att. pts to improve traffic` flow would be im peded.because the improvements attracted hewtraflic:' - His suggestions, if implemented, would not attract -new traffic and wouid'' irove traffic_ flow. Vice Mayor Henderson minded Mr. -Carleton of` the• five, -minute limit. :Mr. Carleton' said he had spent "Cod knows how many- hcurs• on this project and 1 think I'm entitled to- say -what 1 have to say." Vice t4ayor Henderson said ha -had to- be' uniformin' his rulings' (on permitted length of .speakers' time) . • - He asked, .since' a' scheduled speaker called out that he would relinquish his time to Mr. Carleton9. if that additional five minus would take care -of Mr. Carleton's statement. ! ; . Carletcn:noted that traffic would cc -from Menio'Park's adjacent residential streets 'to- the- residential-street:of'over one thousand residents at Oat Creek Apartments', pl us'. those . who. tot d live in the proposed. development -along Willoecltt Road.- - He- thought it irresponsible not to plan for that proposed housing- development. ° He' quoted the WEIR as saying local _access' to the' Stanfot tt Sh oppi -tenter and- other facilities Resarby,-. such as the -hospital, 1 d ' be affor f' by thee' proposed project. He setdt. the :project was designed • to- improve-. regional ; not- local , access . The local -residents -3=1d not oerrlyhave-.its : pary for -whet was to benefit a region,. but . also have to suffer from the' effete of increased traffic. He ct ted . further- frnconsi stcnciees - aunt pointed out -that improvements at the Santa Cruz itrtmrsection titre -the -only- thing- that- would improve trrafti c, and the SR/EIR did not ' even`. i ncl : tom` -they were- only suggested as mitigation meesures. He -said tint- crucial*.leftetwrn- lane was only assumed, and not -a firm part of the project' tents- frets the San Mkeeteo.Countr Planning Division referred to Sant -Hill as -an arterial at one time, .and 'a- frrseway at another -and an-. expressway -ate another. Did Palo Alto.want any- of them, regardless of wbat''tbeey were called? He thought the Car ' Dr ve extension wet aweltarate' traffic by making it possible for traffi c - to go df rectty spth- en' Jun i pero Serra. Emerett HisstaN' 17i8Oak Creek- Drt ,- said'he' supported Rr. Carleton's remarks ; Ted e'11'.` 1.700 R-. Willow -Road, said- he- supported l~tr:' Caerleton's remarks. lkahrtrrt' , 4D wee,' agv.ed -with- N r. ' Car'leteen's' comments . He sa i d that mom' of` t traffic reduction. purported' to -occur -took place for 208 10/2/78 Menlo. Park, whereas it increasedin Palo Alto. Mr. Moss -said that the proposed interchange at El Camino -could bewhollychanged were CalTrans, wtio, he said "owns El Camino," to- decide- to- rtmove. a center divider and allow traffic to enter Palo.Alto at Alma. which would "...create a tremendous presses for the remaieing three-quarters of a mile of Willow Expressway. to be coanpl eted. G He 111 ustratad. his .talk with' a transparency projected on a screen in the' council chamber. He -proposed constructing the highway within the area now given to parking thus forcing motorists to go' either southbound on El Camino- or *ate a- northbound turn into Menlo Park. He listed the' benefits -that would result- from his traffic proposal. The chief -benefit, he' said; was that 1t' would forestall CalTrans from raving the present barrier -to permit -traffic to feed into Alma. The interesections, regardless' of whether -three-- or four - lanes were built, were - Lhe must important concern. Ken- Dulaney,- 1736 Oak Creek Drive, agreed with-Mre Carleton that a double left -turn lane' at Santa' Croz intersection-s.-..woold definitely improve' it." fie' commended all -the' work that had- gone- into studying all the alternatives. Louis Fein, 1540 Oak Creek Drive,' recommended that Council -vote against all alternatives as' presently' proposed. His' rent would be increased only to increase traffic, not deirease'it:''4e'asted then Council designate Oak Creek Apartments, should Council approve: t he -project; as a negative assessment' district', with the City to pay Oak Creek an- assessment to compensate for the diminution of the quality of life at Oak Creek. John Kest, 1520 h'i11ceo Road, recalled- that.the "improvement" of Wax:dside Road had done'ncthing-to improve -Woodside Road;near wt'1ch he had lived for seven:years. Traffic had increased -.threefold; and the- problems had tripled proportionately.. 'He listed some of the' problemsiand the intersec- tians.at which they occurred. He said "...I have'to assume that this will be the saw or: possibly worse." Elfrid Giounousis, 993 Loma Verde Avenue, Mdseveral° cr°iticis s of the SR/EIR: in the' main -se said it assumed that" the project had to be built. She /greed with Mr. Carleton -that there were easier/ ways to solve the problems. She regretted the resultant -loss -of the -riparian life zonealong the creek, were the project to-be:bui1t ' Streamside environment was qui te; rare end this area, was ' fortunate to have: cme' such environment. Rainwater rufioff and the effect on groundwaterlevels had not been considered. Saltwater intrusion already impinged, and it would be worsened without the runoff. She' i ndi cated a was/ i n' which. downtown Palo Alto traffic might be vorsen ed,'st-tie rate -of cars a- 6y. A dengerous aeons' of . traffic could also -result at the StanfOrd'Shopping Center itself. She foiled that money be' saved, and that ny' p€ oblems' be forestalled. Arthur graham, 1548 Edgewood Drive, ' said helot resided in Palo Alto since 1948. HeWa thought activists• at local,: state:and federal levels eaphas i zed their vote by moving out of the - area. Nee• 1 i k- the objectors' situation . to what might have been the case' had rwsidents. objected to the building of the Stamford Shoppl n• Center -ants the : Oak Creek Apartments and Willow Road itself. He thought' the project had ".. . emi rat value to the welfare - of the City. . . . " `hove o . obJected - to- the road might find themselves living in an area that would become ghettoized, as had the areas . artond Michael Rees and Johns Hopkins ` hospi tat s . He urged a vote favorable to the project by the Council. Isabel Sew/11; 399 fhlefricrOsks Drive, Mlo-Patrk, said she - 1 ived-- in the- unincorporated- section :of San hetee County. She did not approve. the project. She the ght i t' benefited- Stamford' bet brought only "grief antt loam- to unincorporated. San Mateo' County:" ' Sh..tiougbt Stanford Uni vii ty should' have provided sore east -west t orridorr in- i is expansion 209 10/2/78 0 of the last ten yearn and 1t- should pay• forte a project- which, should it be. completed, would burden nearby residents. Dr. Nancy Jewell Cross, 1902 Palo Alto Way,. represented' the Comnittee for. Safe:and Sensible' San francisquito` Creek- Area'. Routing. Dr. Cross said she lived-in unincorporated -San Mateo County:• - She said "We have. taken'. action in court. . . "' when -no' other" nears persuaded Council to study. the _project further-. She said peoples-wowentitledunder the Environmental Quality Act to' a- serious study. of.all- alternatives. She felt thee: SR/E!R' before -them did not consider' -the alternatives in routing or modes- of transportation. - She- thought' the transportation director should be, involved . as- such; 'and- that: the'. project- not' be considered just as a construction project. Local alreeuality.had to` be considered, for it was - below federal ' standards ' It was getting worse'. ' Her coevaittee had offered-scme.alternatives• to avoid' worsening' air; • wing with the P1 and ng _Department- her Cowl devised'. the. alternative of cutting through .Quarry . Road' for one=way, access'. to- ti Coat no . - Cal Trans had not favored . a tiro -way pattern that close to the': University -Avenue overhead. She -offered the- "franclsquito• Parkway Plan,"`_ a- not' proposal;- and submitted an illustration of -the plane -A - ci tyespoesor d 'workshop- had. been held et the . Palo Alto .High - School • i n June of 1975, to eeens1 der ' tt a problems of air quality, possible confusion *of traffic; .and reacted matters, and citizens' participations had been invited. She. felt the alternatives she and haer.grocp. had -worked out were: edit ue'.and valuable;' -they gave accom- rodations - for bicycles • and buses. She' would like- to` have- a meeting for the purpose of discussing with others- the' butetransfer-centers around Palo Alto. Vice Mayor Henderson- pointed out that the- speaker's t H e exceeded five minutes . Dr. Cross- asked that- staff and citizens -.seriously consider -the alternative plan' her group offered, before -going ahead- with The' proposed- improvements . Robert J. Debs, 3145 Flowery Lane, said he thought- Palo Al tans wanted Stanford- to take the traffic, and' Oak' Creek` residents' felt the sane way. He did Dot'_ think the- road' should -be' widened' until`; the ttl enecks at intersections were 'solved. ' lie' thought -the -project' should be re-vorked from the begi nni ng . Vice Mayor Hendon -ascer°tained that- there -were -no- further speakers from the public. i Recess Council • recessed freer r 9;50 to 10:10 p.a. Vice Mayor lieu rson' called on-- the' consul tart Doug -tonal dson, E .1.P. Cb 3rntioo, 'adding- that. Mr. Donal dsgnewould 'give' Council a written report also in _the coming week. Pt . Donaldson said '$e will not- trpy'-to':rpond to' everything tonight." He said . he would respond' to 'saw tter e- rain ent' by the- pab1 i c ; he woul d have Ceeorges _Jaquseart- of •L. & N.' knout e.s'.tall( on -the' traffic topic. liar. Aoe a1dsos :said there 'had been' traub1e-sasating SVEIRItsues from project issues`; and that - had* been' the: Oar t- eying. "It (the uaixup) happens. all th e -ti 9"• he. said. He:would address -his remarks to comments'. len _matters'. thst had- been- aiiyzede regarding the -adequacy evalu- ation to_ tha WEIR. He thoughthie fire old:!respond-to lira Carleton's points , "... cause y are so` technical " i nr ' r ti . "A numbear of Mr. Carleton's poi - ".:.do indeed- gorto the adequacy of the SR/E!R." That report would be in Council ubers' 'packets next aanrk. 210 10/2ne eZ to Mr. Donaldson -said his notes' indicated.that' ithad been' charged that the SR/EIR did not. consider adequately' the access' and.accessibility issues related to the 4S -acre parcel which was proposedforr1200 apartment units.of. housing. to be located -along Sand Hill :Road. "Our comment to that," he said, "is that would be a separate project .proposed by a separate developer-ewe.really'don't know anything.aboutit now and it's not possible.to consider it fully'in this SR/EIR . . We -did indeed put access .points to that parcel and- include : *hose' access' pot nts in the traffic -analysis -and in the SR/EIR on the project. -Those' access points should be located across frotw Pasteur (Drive) and then one close to Arboretum. across' frodrm athe Bullock'sstore." Me said page 62 of the SR/£1R showed that. tnfonm!ation, and also- Figure' 8' of. the' Sk/EIR. A special traffic.analysis: had been- dome or those pages', using today's best assump- tions of futurt grwwth , - as' s hown in Figure 8. Mr. Donaldson went on to the com nt:that the:Slt1£IR "...asset, ed that the project needs . to be filled." He said na . spectfi c'.exa ml es had been given as to how or where that- prejudicesef n '. to' have' crept in. Mr. Donaldson.denied that that was the case; the"document looked at a ",..whole variety of alternatives and- revi ewi ng this project in' all -its aspects. " Mr. Oonaidson said -the content had -been: mmade: that: the- loss of riparian life had not been covered in the SR/EW.. Mr.' Donaldson -said that in his judgment that.issue was coveredvthe'most.significant tmpact would be around the bridge area where construction -of the subject project would have the most- direct effect on the creek. Mr. Donaldson spoke on the issue of rainwaters with` the:stat nt having been made that a mile of road takes' up 24 acres of. land. Mr. Donaldson agreed that that was true, but with both four- and- threeelane proposals much of the -existing -pavement would:be-used. The hydrological analysis his firmmm.had done, shown an page. 62, concludad.thet.the• hydrological impact would not be as severe as if the project called — for a completely new road. Mr. Donaldson:said she SR/EIR had' been.mmade that' 1tmouid be possible to allow traffic ,with a "'no- project" a1 ternative.,to cut through the Stanford Shoppi ng- Center parking lot; as . about 3000' cars' a day now did. Regard1 g. t e "no- project" alternattvea the Viliow- Poad EIR analyzed traffic volume -and traffic safety of that alternative. Mr.' Donaldson spoke' of the star went.thst the project'.would make air quaff i tv to the area .worse-. M . Dorval dson sal d' that than comment vas not tr e. .Air Vitality was getting better.and wdu ld:conttntwto' ;immprove. The tops c , of air c, a l i ty was cafepl ex . .. . On- page' -14 of the , SVE IR existing air qual ity wts' shdawn - to- be balcc standard' set bar': federal - and bay area pollution ,ccntro1' dNstricts, and it wantd- get.batter by' 1 "even if you do nothing in -the -area." Congressibnelly mandatetmmission controls werc credit d' w1 th imrerred air -quality. , The' actual •effect - on ami r of the proposed -project- could be: seen ir-the' air quality -section of the EIR, Georges'%hquemart, consultant, ia A ftVoorb4.4s;:observed that many of the comments about=traffic related to the project: he ltd address comments related . to the SR/EIR. He spoke. cf tide rule' pied* by' M No Park : of r1gbt..turn-in and right -turn out at Oak Avsme-In the Westbound lane. Mr. Jacqtempart said that‘changerdid relleycthat . intersection. A signal would still .be :heeded at -that intersection' unl esr pedestrtan and bi c le crossings warn- e1 im natfet and. placed at et rr' Santa . Cwdax' Avenue or �k Creak .apartments. In his personal- judg nt a' signalized pedestrian crossing s needed at Oak Awwnue9 211 10/2/78 Regarding.. porslble. congestion at. both* Santa' Cruz*. and El Camino Real , he said his report pointed out that -the' congestion at. those two points would . become worse.- If the project went through' traffic at the Santa Cruz intersection' would be increased -at the' approach: if the project were not built traffic at' that approach would not be. added, "...but traffic blot would happen or. the. other approaches -of Junepero Serra and Santa .Cruz Avenue. The proposed' project'.aou1dtadd a- new single phase at El Camino. Real, and would create- the -capacity oft existing -movement." Mr. Jaquesaart commented that only' at' peak hours- evul d 'there* be• congestion at the two intersections. Mr. Jaquwvart.said he. wanted to. respond-to•.s •.coa nts made by Mr. Carletoe. Mr. Jagr, art- thought- the- rationale". fbrrthe -project had been stated very generally; as' being- undertaken'. to' improve local congestion. That meant _to. h#aa, as -a traffic .consultant,` to- relieve the existing critical bottleneck- along' Sand Hill Road, .p•risartiy in- the westbound lane, and through the' Stanford Shopping' Center, -.which- had not been spoken of, and -was one of the primary objectives 'Another objective was to decrease' traffic on residential streets',°.rrith. asst. relief for Menlo Park. Outlined on pages 52- and.53- 53• in- the SR IR were' traffic decreases that would occur for Palo Altos as * on' Juniper* Serra;' Stanford Avenue, El Camino .so=uth of Sand Hill, Entsrcadero' `. Pager Mill . (decrease of 3 to 15 percent) , Alma (decrease' of 17' percent), and° other streets in Palo Alto. Mr. Jaque rt said Mr. Carleton had tempered the- left turn count at Santa Crez and Junipero to the -traffic count . rear` thetOat' Creek Apartments, Mr. Jaqueraart said the left -turn. at Santa Cruz.was "a' critical movement': and he said that his firm had. recorra nded'for all the -alternatives, including "no build the mitigation of a' iefteturn lane -at that inter- section, He felt that for a valid comparison--; hover;' all vehicles ►jad to be.counted, not just those that turned left. The -statement '°Widening does not attract additional traffic" was .held to -be. a• contradiction of other statements in the report:- - His' firer said that widening did not attract additional -traffic. In fact, traffic°would. be' lessened bet en bottlenecks by the. new connection` between- Arboretum' and- El Camino Real , so, it was not gust the widening-, he- said, but' the. new- cunnecti on , -that would attract additional traffic. About intersection alternatives at- f1 Camino- .Real; - five different inter- section .designs- had' been- cowl dared. for that`.point. ' So' far as traffic regulation was concerned.' there 'w r also the- motion- of -enforcement of rtiegulatioe. A concrete barrier that' would- separate' left turns from through aovement" hat been included- In the` possibilities; -it, too, would have to be enforced. On the problem of weaving traffic- from -right' tunes- off' Send Hill through the trrPtic freer Menlo Park turning' into the- shopping- center, his fir4 had not -specifically addressed that emttaer. It was' not' a' problem because righttun had to yield to` through -movement: ' R#sc;' there -were about 800 feat separation from the proposed` right' turns -and the - entrance to the shopping miter. About the lack of recoi erredation- for ispreving' the -intersections prior to it samting of the- project' or Its` rtaatives; his -firm had felt it was not its role to wale recce n atit . ° Each' alternative had been analyzed, including' the no build" arid his` fires had proposed Mitigation auras' to- each al ternati we. The cwt from Dr.' Cross that' the' alternative` she had presented to the Planning . Commission had not -been' ' r°iously` i dare d" ' was moot so, for his first .l had lootxt at. that a1tstx fth' s,t iilivinated-it, because it did not seem ter' be' b rearl'i st1 c al ternat'i►e : Ot t' eras ° far too expensive 21 2 10/2/76 and it would be unacceptable toStanford'because'it went through the Stanford Golf Course and* i nvol ved en' i nterthenge' at Alpine and Juni pero Serra without attention to realistic costs. The location'was "...very, very tight" and would lead to -major construction problems. His firm, however, had responded to the alternative she -had submitted:' Mr. Jaquemart said he. could not respond- to all the elements of the proposal Dr. Cross had made that evening: His firm, however, ' had- addressed the "Quarry Road Alternative"' end the original - Willowettoad area;' they had been rejected because it' was' impossible' to have a' full intersection at El Camino Rea1• and- Quarry because' of- the propinquity of the University Avenue on'. and off ramps.' A simple' right' turn . frog Quarry onto El Camino to •the off ramp to University Avenue could' be' considered; - but not a left turn. Just having a once -way loop would merely add -another intersection. Mr. Jaqueaoart said he' had not analyzed any other elements in her plan. He would do that for the next meeting. Vice Mayor Henderson thanked the consultants. • He returreo' the matter to Council for discussion. Council -member fl etcher* rrferred- to Mtr. • Jaquemart's statement "A propor- tion of vehicle trips coming- from the- Dumbarton- !ridge —is quite small." She asked if he was foe i liar with- the D ►rdon- access- road design; the four -lane bridge led to a four -lane road which connected- first of all to University Avenue. -At th«t point' it reduced to- two -lanes, before it reached Willow then Marsh access* roads . She thought -that' 'indicated that there -would be congestion after -passing -University Avenue-. She thought that would bring many trips down University, which.,, wero' the road to continue as four lanes, would not be -the case. She asked -if Mr. Jaqueanart had been aware of that proposed Duzarton access. Mr. Jaquernart said he did not know the specific' lane' designs; he did k cee :Rbout the three feeder-rveds• of ➢ arsh, Willow and University. Embarcadero Road, as- an access, had been eliminated. Her assumption might be correct, he -said, but that diet not' mean- that' there would not be additional traffic circulating between' Dumbarton -Bridge and the Sand Hill project. "If you put a big' h ttleneck in between, that would tend to discourage' traffic coating from' Dumbarton- Bridge' to- Uni vers i ty Avenue and continuing- ott to -Send Hill Road."' His* statement. hat been based on the Palo -Alto traffic model*, whir showed exactly wfiere trips came from and went to. About 300 vehicles' aright core daily from Dumbarton directly to Sand Hill with Al tentative- 1. With Al ta!rnative 3- there- were practically none. Counci lumber Fletcher said she' thought .the- bridoe• would generate a great . many trips. The proposed rese w` design` freer the' bridge looked as though it were maaaFct to- f d' into` Palo - Alto. She did riot know eft could be dons about that. She referred- to_ - page 27, S IR and a passage about ".. °.a grassy strip of about' 25 feet rid' beware Welch Road and office parking areas on- the roadway." She wondered if. that referred to all alternatives, or only the four -lane alternative. Mr. Donal d$0/1 said. that reference- was for' the' four -lane alternative, for which' his firm had s�ifiic' dataa.' It' a ght refer to' the- other alternative not , but he did know much. Counci lsareber- Fletcher at Seed who would be -responsible for tai ntenanc a of landscaping if the road were built. 5eae • Pawl os ki , Director of Public- Works', said' the City at Palo Alto would d be responsible for maintenance of landscaping ant roadway, including water for i andscapi ng. 21 3 10/2/78 Councilmember Fl etcher asked- if' the' projected cast' of" the project of $6,640,000 took . into account* costs.. that may have' changed sings the original estimate. She quoted an' article in' the' Palo Alto Times which said that every month of delay would add about' $ O,003 to costs. Mr. Donaldson replied that those -were -the- latest' available figures but about one' percent a month' had' to be' added` for inflation. Counc1lmember. Fletcher said- that -of' all' the alternatives' in the EIR and SR/EIR she -was drawn to the one that had'. two'.laner freer Menlo Park to El Camino, and she- had seen' no' analysis- by Mr.Donaldson' s' company on that. Mr. Jaquemert . said- that -it might possibly be -like Alternative 3, with two lanes eastbound instead of westbound. Counci baerober< Fletcher read an i dents fyi v g passegea — " ::. ma t nta i n the present roadway- and' add a two-lane roadwiky from Artotetue to El Camino." She said it was' given' on page' 64 of the SR/EIR,. but' not on' the consultant's report. Vice Mayor Henderson said it was listed as Alternatives 2 and 3, opposite page 4 of the original EIR. Mr. Donaldson' said he would. hunt up the' passage- and return to her question. Councilember.Eyerl,y asked about Alternate 3 --though the-EIR spoke about the proposed 12110 'touring- units and estimated webers of trips and so on it did not speak to the lever of -congestion- that might occur on the connection to El Camino' or to- JuniPero' Serra', actording- to whether it was a two- or' four -lane road. Mr. Jaqumeart said it had -been addressedewholly in -Alternative 1, on page 60. The figures were' on page 62, and indicated that the traffic at Ei Cawing would wo sen•by 2 to 3 percentb-resulting,' in -volume capacity ratio, of 1.38 instead of 1,35'.' ° At Santa- Cruz' the same' traffic resulting from the housing would worsen' congestion° by' about' 4 percent, increasing volume capacity ratio from 1.3 to 1e35. Counci looter Eyerly asked- about- the traffic- impact' from Alternate 3 from the -bridge a't the creek' turd Jonlpero terra t - the' E1R said that by doing away . -ttth the' walkways three -lanes- cool d- be acted by the bridge, if there- were- two' ten -foot' lanes' and .one' twaIveefoot lane. The standard was Waive feet, though ten feet was still within' recoemendatieos. Were there' any projections' as' to triction of traffic, possible accidents` and- so on, - with the lames- named to ten feet? Mr. Jaquissart.said that -in many' cities ten foot` lav*V, were considered substandard. A very moth- trns1 tlon- ' mod' from the roadwky proper to the bridge'i tsel fa and so' a' tin -foot' lane wild "be needed a considerable- distend' eastward- of the- br1dge-_to. give r choking effect, for optima .conditions.' He thought' it was' pos si bl a to' gat by with tend foot lanes. the to' that' would- be to' widen' bridge to accomnadatee twai ve-foot lanes. Camcl lmember Eyerly noted that' the. rig tt+►hand lane' at4 Junlpero Serra would have' to' be !barraged t' pere1 t two left -turn 1 ones'. • ift*at distance would be rsreded' to achieve. that narrOl i ng, and' ►t impact would that have on traffic? Mr. Jaquaaert- said. the effect' would' be' edam; ' 1 1 alternative would be to take' mare- l and' trete the. Stanford Golf Course. 21 4 10/2/78 Counci looter Eyerly asked how traffic' wool d• be' handled= since the bridge and piesent road were to be used. Mr. .Donaldson said. that' he- had written in' a memo' to' Ken' Schreiber that the . impact from building a four -lane- road .would'. be much` greater at the bridge; he was not sure what could be done there. Department of Public Works would have to- work something out. The three -lane alternative presented the» problem of having to keep- out- of use' that part of the present-_road•.which•was' to be- tied into' the.addition of the third lane. With four lanes . the- present' road- could centi nue as- now- used, while the additional two lanes' were constructed. • Couaci Brenner- referred to- Figures 6 -.stud -?,-.opposite' pages 50 and 60. The figures- projected increases' of 13-.6- percent- and' 15.7 percent. She noticed that traffic- flow wild' be` s lat reduced' at. Middlefield and considerably' reduced at Chaucer•' ' Why. was' there- the- larger difference at Chaucer? Mr. Jaeuemart said •the traffic actually decreased* as it progressed toward the ccyshore' Freeway. - Not ine',special* happened at Chaucer. Resident.. University Avenue- corridor- chose- to' travel' either ,'01 or 280. With the connection- to 280 is roved. many xmul d choose to drive 280. The same - situation- would occur on Lytton and' Hamilton Avenues. Council ber- Brenner asked if the projected. figures assumed any traffic going to Fremont , for with• the- new' Doeibarton-there-would -be more housing built there. Mr. Jaeueeart sand .his firm' had not analyzed the' effect- of the Deenbarton bridge a though the assLmpti on that- it' would be- built- had" been made. He said '`14e cannot estimate the° effect of tine' D barton' bridge., CalTrans had estimated that about 6000 vehicles' would go' freer the' bridge to Palo Alto feeders .such as Embar+ dero' and • University Avenue.' - He emphasized that the proposed Sand Hill Road' project did not increase the traffic toward Dumbarton. Councilmember Brenner asked- if the' traffic .analysis' was -based on figures for ".-..a--cce 1etely built- up area.° She noted that the proposed Stanford Housing had been added, Mr. Jaquenart- said the traffic forecast .was .based' ow the Palo Alto Comprehensive' Pi an; Stanford had' no- plans ?blether thaw the proposed housing. Councilember.fin r asked- it the- fact that the. l cast -housing could house -. 'service . employees fog both hospital ant Stanftrel. Stepping Center would eokP a significant~ difference in' projected traffic impact. Mr. Jaquemart said it would be well- u...to- try .to-get'pelople to live there %to work close by-. " Pricing'-ve u tt' Bake there ort passible. It was difficult to project traffic-, 'or it dope/mitt on -chat- mix of student housing and public' beaming' Would be rode. Counci 1er Claw asked if the expectee!' .5•- pe rr3t- incase in traffic along t nt'vertity' Avenue- took into ec nt` the origin- and- destination of vehicles. Per"4,oqueurt eel d- he- did not- third' that CalTrans,' in- projecting the 5 percent . increase; lad` - into that kind -off dull . ' They analyzed traffic -regionally, - and did not take einor arterials' such- u Arboret and Sand Will- Road- into' caws i derati on . 215 10/2/78 1 1 Councilmernber Clay said he• did. net' thinir' the' cost' of'.bui1 ding a temporary bridge, if needed,' had been figured -into the costs. Mr. Jaquemart:.said it was not yet known. if the.existing.bridge could be widened. If it could be the existing traffic would not. be' too disrupted; if it could not be the. impact' on- the neighborhood' uld be greater during road construction, although, to sue' degree,it* could• be mitigated. Ytee Mayor Henderson observed- that Stanford had approved the Campus Drive extension' to- Junipero' Serra provided.the`.Satt 11i1' Road improvements were undertaken. • Had the- impact' of. that Campus Drive' extension been assessed in the SR/EIR? Mr. eaqwart said. it- had' been ac sfised'-ah`.page`.6O; • Figure 7, when there was". a decrease- west- of Santa Cruz' and -Santa Cruz• itself. About 800 vehicles .less a- day aid' travel' Pasteur Drive.' 'He' suggested compari of those figures to Figure -S on page 50. Vic ?Ivor Henderson' nots d than the- comparison' figures' showed traffic icncrease on Send .Hi11-itself..-He- said- he. was` surprised* that more people did not hunt up less congested- intersectionseeAlpift' wes'.very congested. Why didn't people' use Carpus Delve and 3unipero- Serra' and' go' to -Page- I41i for 'example, if they were going south? Mr. Jaquemart.said that to some- degree- that would be. the• case. He said figures of anticipateri' traffic suggested there' ws a' shift from Sand Hill, but it was replaced by diversion' otAraffic" coming' fr m Santa Cruz Avenue from l anio Park. It was' not a-majorshift' and would not affect traffic volume to- a large degree. Vice Mayor Henderson. said he• did- not think -three- lanes' of traffic could be accommodated -by the existing' bridge. What world happen if the bridge could not be widened? Mr. Jaquaseart- explained- that with' th' tenoval t of the'.si dewal ks two ten -foot and one twelve -foot. lane could- be' fitted onto . the' bridge, There would be "freeway" protection- along -the- side' of . the' bridge'. It weuld be prefersble to- widen- the -bridge • The' consultant. could• only- give widening as a possible alternative. Vice. I yor Henderson asked if he. unde stood.correctly that residents along theltniversity Avenue. corridor would those' terre' to 280 rather than - 101 .1f. the. Sand' Hill Road iarproee tr'ts- werar . sacs:' ' UV, with the Problems -of, traffic- lights on'bn1versi ty. Avenue. an El". Gino and the saw exeunt of soegestion' at Santa Cruk, Would people moose to go' that way? Jaquemart salt the assumption mar based.or ' tier Palo- Alto traffic model; in- nonepeak- hours' there- h better' uteri distribution, Vice Mayor Henderson. asked if imost of that' traffic. was- expected to occur in off -peek hours. Mr. Jaqueart- said' the figures dial aot- refine to' hourly forecasts, merely dally forecasts. Vice Meyer Henderson salt i Wit Whew a• rote' on en EIR was taken Ow Maas of thelir for- i nut shoal t ap ar. " He asked if such a' record of the' mss` on* the' E:YYR` wu available Ken- Schreiber- said` that the - for the E -.was' unanimous ; the 5-2 vote.. on t e . of e- Co Five' Plan' Rene and Gordon voting" "ne: cavorts. On the 44.2' - with' one. ebetentiorr, Comeissioner Steinberg *041004 witwittrCommissiovierwRattand Carpenter voting *Ito a " son Corrected see page 271; Corrected see page 271. 21 6 10/2/78 Vice Mayor Henderson- ascertained- that .there .weft' no' more" questions from Councilmembers.• He -announced that the Sand Hill Rord matter would be taken up .again at the- Tuesday, -October10 Council- ,,u meting, 7:30 p.m. Council .would then vote on the sufficiency of the SR/EIR and possibly make a decision- on the' natter' of the road improvements. ORAL COPWJNICATIONS None Counci ter Eyerly • remarked that- the =1 atter- from' tip.. San Frencisco Opera- Wild 'that* was in. Councileamberrs4 patket' that week* seed "...quite inflammatory." He' asks.what re a -staff intended. George S ipel ,.. C1 ty Mar r, said staff would respond, - tom: he did not know just what would be -said, •Council-._ . __rs wild' receive a c pa of staff's response. MOTION: Councilmmber Fletcher € oved, seceded by -Clay„ that Council adjourn. The' motion' passed on a' unanimous voice vote. Council adjourned at ll:20 p.m. AT' CST : 211 10/2/78 APPROVE: 211 �ti