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Home My WebLink About1980-07-07 City Council Summary MinutesCITY COUNCIL MNUT€s e Regular Meeting July 7, 1980 Item Minutes of June 2 and June 9, 1980 CITY MIO ALTO Page 002 Consent Calendar Ordinance Adopting 1979 Edition of Uniform Fire Code 0 0 3 Agreement for Deferred Compensation Administration Services 0 0 4 California Avenue Commercial Area Underground Project 0 0 4 Resolution re Youth Conservation Corps 0 0 4 Canvass of Special Election, June 3, 1980 0 0 4 Resolution of Appreciation to Veterans Building Committee 0.0 5 South Bay Dischargers Agreement, Second Amendment 0 0 6 Resolution of Appreciation to Philip W. Vogt Arastra Horse Boarding Fees Southgate/Evergreen Park Neighborhood Traffic Election of Mayor and Vice Mayor Appointment to Architectural Review Board Southgate/Evergreen Park Continued Disposition of 1259 Pine Street Application for State Grant -in -Aid - Historic 007 008 Study 0 0 9 01 0 0 1 1 01 1 V 4 Building Inventory 0 2 5 Planning Commission Interviews, Setting Date For 0 2 5 Pa rk i ng Garage 0 2 6 Adjournment 0 2 6 July 7, 1980 Regular Meeting The City Council of the City of Palo Alto meet on this date at 7:40 p.m., in the Council Chambers, 250 Hamilton Avenue, Mayor Henderson presiding. PRESENT: Brenner (arrived at 7:45 and left at 9:00 p.m.), Eyerly, Fazzino, Fletcher, Henderson, Levy, Renzel , Sher ABSENT: Witherspoon MINUTES OF JUNE 2, 1980 I KG Mayor Henderson asked that on page 673, next to the last paragraph, the first three sentences of the paragraph read: "Mayor Henderson said he had been one of the initiators of the Palo Alto Child Care program, yet he had also been elected as a Residentialist, and had voted many times to protect neighborhoods against incursion by non-residential uses. He said that Palo Alto has been known as a City of great diversity, but was now losing its young families and closing many of its schools. The Child Care program makes it possible for single parents and young families where both parents rust work, to afford to live in Palo Alto." Councilmember Fazzino asked that on page 574, sixth paragraph, the last three lines read: Child care centers are permissible in residential areas, and the only major issue before there is determination of what constitutes an excessive nuisance in the area in tens of traffic and noise. Twenty children seems excessive; the Planning Commission compromised that twelve appears to be reasonable." He referred to page 662, third paragraph second line, and asked that the word "in -tern" be changed to "interim.'" Council ber Brenner asked that on page 663, the fifth paragraph read: 'Council r Bterner said that if the City was to purchase the spoils, perhaps the County should pay rent for the land on which the spoils were placed." On the same page, she asked that the following sentence be added to the seventh paragraph: °She understood the City had only to find a place to dump the. ° Councilmember Brtinner asked that on page 672, the second paragraph read: "Councilmember Brenner noted that legal access for the house proposed for child care and owned by the church was across Mr. Rau's driveway." P TTY! Couneilmember Fletcher moved. seconded-bv_Fazztn that -Cs r , Annie:' #P asirmatec a .it "e 2 And __ atintir ! tina_a!f v _ as: tom+ �, corrected. �. : ration passed on unanimoms vote, Councilmember Witherspoon absent. MINUTES _OF JUNE 9, 1%O �.. - Mayor arson asked that on page 681 the roll call show that Counci lmember Witherspoon was present and that Councilmember. Fazzino was absent-. $ayor Henderson asked that on page 683, the next to last paragraph read: - °M yor meson pointed out to Mr. Ware that there were now two condo- minium complexes on San Antonio Road next to the subject parcel, and they had worked out qu l to we1 l . " , 002 7/7/80 ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 1. Ronald Bennett, 524 Middlefield, expressed concern over the removal of Channing Market. The market was built long before 1800. There is land available that this building could be put on such as Scott Street Park; it would enhance the park if the building could be moved there. He would like to see the Channing Market issue put on the upcoming election ballot so people could deside what they would like to do with the market. 2. Mr. Nijmeh, 532 Channing, expressed his desire to have the issue of whether to remove the building or not put. before a vote of the people. 3. Bob Moss, 4010 Orme, expressed his opinion on the re- ceding program and the difficulty many people are having in getting dump passes. He asked that passes be given out for a year rather than six months. He also expressed concern over the issue of the Texan site. During the discussion of the site, several Staff members discussed potential programs on the site, and the cwt was that the program should be centralized. Mr. Moss referred to a statement of policy in the Comprehensive Plan that there should be district parks throughout the City, which would provide services to people throughout the unity; the cent was made that people on the staff do not agree with that. He said that even though the City, the Planning Commission and the Council adopt policies, these policies don't always get i:mplerriented. CONSENT CALENDAR Counc11nember Eyerly requested that he be recorded as not participatirc on the item regarding University Avenue Offstreet Parking Project 75-63B (Kipling Lot). Councilo r Eyerly requested that the item re South Bay Dischargers Agreement be removed frame the Cement Ca a erdar. Mayor Iverson requested that the item re Arastra Horse Boarding Fees be removed from the Consent Calendar. The following items mined on the Calendar. Referral None Action- ORDINANCE ADOPTING 1979 EDITION a as " ".f_ Ig ORDINANCE 3216 entitled "FINANCE OF THF COUNCILL OF tirarnraL0 ALTO ADOPTING mt 1979 EDITION OF m UNIFORM FIRE CODE AS AMENDED ODNICIPA,L CODE CHAPTER 15.04)" (First reading 6/16/80) 003 . 7/1/80. ORDINANCE RE ADOPTING THE 1979 ` ITIONS OF 'K-URT tU ILiiTNG , econo Reading) - ORDINANCE 3215 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE cifi OF PALO ALTO ADOPTING THE 1979 EDITIONS OF THE UNIFORM BUILDING, HOUSING AND PLUMBING CODES AS AMENDED AND ADOPTING FINDINGS FOR SUCH CODES (MUNICIPAL CODE CHAPTERS 16.04 AND 16.08)" (First reading 6/16/80) JANITORIAL SERVICES: AWARD OF ITIMMITIMIT2rThruretrTOITor CT Staff recommends that the Mayor be authorized to execute a one-year contract with Action Building Maintenance on behalf of the City. AGREEMENT - JANITORIAL SERVICES Action Building Maintenance GxREER PARK PROJECT 79-35: AWARD RACT Staff rends that the Mayor be authorized to execute a construction contract with Watkin & Bortolussi, Inc., in the amount of $473,069; and that staff be authorized to execute change order to the construction contract of up to 10% ($47,300) of the contract amount. AGREEMEPT - Watkin & Bortolussi UNIVERSITY AVENUE OFFSTREET PARKING Staff recommends that Council award the hid and authorize the Mayor to execute a construction contract with O'Grady Paving Inc., in the amount of $95,000. AGREEMENT - O'Grady Paving, Inc.. SOLID WASTE ENERGY RECOVERY SAY - Staff recommends that the City .Council, acting as the General Administretor for the JPA, approve the agreement with Peat, Marwick & Mitchell for conduct of Phase III Step I Study. A NT - Putty Ma ck Mitchell Staff recommends that Counc i 1 approve a supplemental agreement with PG&E in the amount of $7,25+0 to increase the capacity of Gas Station No. 3 and to authorize monthly payments of $354 for the operation of this station. AGREEMENT - Pacific .Gas and Electric Company and the City of Pa1e Alto i AGREEMENT FOR DEFERRED COMPENSATION Staff recommends that Council authorize the City Manager to execute the proposed agreement with Centrecorp Financial Services, Incorporated to become effective July 7, 1980. AGREEMENT FOR PLAN ADMINISTRATOR - Centrecorp Financial Services, Incorporated CALIFORNIA AVENUE COMMERCIAL AREA PIIIMPINIIMPSPRIMINIMMUZIMPOSSMIIMAIRMIIIIMEMBERIIIks :299:0) Staff recommends that the Council adopt the Resolution of Intent to amend Section 1216.020 of Chapter 12.16 of Title 12 of the Palo Alto Municipal Code, by establishing Underground Utility District No. 22. RESOLUTION 5818 entitled °'RESOLUTION OF INTENTION TO AMEND SECTIO 12.16.020 OF CHAPTER 12.16 OF TITLE 12 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL. CODE BY ESTABLISHING UNDER- GROUND UTILITY! DISTRICT NO. 22" RESOLUTION RE YOUTH contrwrarrawr RESOLUTION 6812 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF Tai 'i` I.O ALTO TO CO-SPOICiOR, WITH CREATIVE INITIATIVE FOUNDATION, THE YOUTH CONSERVATION CORPS IN PALO ALTO DURING THE SUMMER OF 19803' CANVASS OF RESULTS OF JUNE 3 1980 Staff recommends that in order to comply with Palo Alto City Charter, Article III, Section 4, Council adopt the resolution declaring the re- sults uf the Special Election held June 3, 1980. RESOLUTION 5813 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF TH CI 6F —PALO ALTO DECLARING THE RESULTS OF THE SPECIAL MUNICIPAL ELECTION HELD ON JUNE 3, 1980" MOTION: Councilmemter Fazzino moved, seconded by Fazzino, approval of the Consent Calendar. The motion passed on a u n * votti-with-umucTI,amher-witherspoofl absent, and Counc11mmber" Eyerly et participating • en the item re Ueiversi ! Avg Gffstreet Parking Project 75-638 (Kipling Lois: Of APPRECIATION TO Vtrutan maims rrrEc Mayor Heederson recalled that after months of investigation and delibera- tive the Cities Advisory Camsittee on the Veterans Building submitted a - export dated March 22, 1976, urging restoration and preservation of the Veterans Building as a memorial to the veterans. On November 11, 1976, a dedication . of the Veterans Nemorial Building as California Historical Landmark No. -895 was held., He said that tonight the Council would 1 f ke co I express its appreciation for the outstanding public service rendered by the Veterans Memorial Building Citizens Advsiory Committee. MOTION: Vice Mayor Sher introduced the following resolution and moved, seconded by Levy, its adoption: RESOLUTION N0. 5814 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY O PALO ALTO EXPRESSING APPRECIATION TO THE MEMBERS OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL BUILDING CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE" The motion passed on a unanimous vote, Councilmember Witherspoon absent. MOTION: Counc1lmember Eyerly moved, seconded by Sher, to bring forward the items re South Bay Dischargers and Arastra Norse Boarding Fees. The motion passed on a unanimous vote. SOUTH BAY DISCHARGERS AGREEMENT Councilor Eyerly said he would like some input on the South Bay Dischargers budget. How much of that part of the budget contributed by Palo Alto went to cover the $50 per month paid to the liaison persons from each city for attending each meeting. Pe said he believed this budget had been in effect for 7 years and that Palo Alto's share of the total monies paid for salaries was $4,200, or 42% of the total budget, Ed Aghjayan, Director of Utilities, said that ;100,000 was raised as an initial working point and that $500,000 was raised prior to that for an environmental impact report. Many studies had to be done regarding the pipeline which was originally estimated, approximately 8 years ago, at $60 million. He estimated the cost hOW would be four times that amount. It is hoped this massive project will never have to be done, and they are heading in that direction now. The original $500,000 of the grant money that was refundable and has come back to the agency has been used for additional studies, projects and engineering work needed. Commissioner's fees for attending meetings also came out of that figure. He said this particular agreement establishes the formula which has been used in the past and will - be used in the future in the event on additi al funds are needed. Councilmember Eyerly asked Mr. Aghjayan to clarify the $2400 a year that went into wages for the four representatives for attending the meetings during the last 7 years, for a total of $16„800. Mr. Aghjayan responded that there were 4 representatives at $5O a tenth. Councilmember Eyerly asked if this same amount is anticipated tobe.us&l for cessation out of the $1000000 that would be budgeted now. . iiayan #e tl t 4 —Imply _ initial �� y -ta �� initial � i�-fl�rrd ----- - and how the original aunt is raised. This is not a budget item, nor is staff suggesting that thisz.ecuilt needs to be raised. It is only sug- gesting that the see formula originally used be used - in the future. Co ncil r Eyerly asked when the budget was going to run out. Mr. Aghjayan commented that there is approximately $140,000 in the South Bay Dischargers account end they are not sit when they will have to cum back for additional funds, but it would not be in the near. future. Councilmembrer fly asked that his comments be taken in abeyance and if he is around when a new budget is set, he will ask to have it removed. 006 7M7O80 MOTION: Councilmember Eyerly moved, seconded by Fletcher that the Mayor be authorized to approve the Second Amendment to Joint Exercise of Powers Agreement. i SECOND AMENDMENT TO JOINT EXERCISE OF POWERS AGREEMENT, SOUTH BAY DISCHARGERS AUTHORITY, CITY OF PALO ALTO, CITY OF SAN JOSE, CITY OF SANTA CLARA At1D► CITY OF SUNNYVALE Councilmember Renzel questioned the high stipends for attending meetings. She asked if the meetings were lengthy daytime meetings or if there was any difference between these meetings and other meetings they all attend. She felt that with something as important as the South Bay Dischargers agreement, the monies are best spent on the substance of issue and not just as stipends for people who attend meetings. She said that unless meetings are extraordinarily long, this is an area which is worth in- vestigating. Vice Mayor Sher said he had no question regarding the agreement, but it would be useful if everyone knew the status of the project. Mayor Henderson said the Committee could not be disbanded yet because the approval to eliminate the project has not been received from the Regional Water Qwlity Control Board, and it appears the Board is going to require that they continue to monitor the bay for up to five ,ears to see if the upgrading of the individual treatment plants has turned the condition around in the bay and that there would be no need for the pipeline. It is very obvious that they are not going to just let cities drop the pipeline. Meanwhile the Scuth Bay Dischargers Authority has joined with other regional agencies in a Bay Area water reclamation study that could be beneficial to all. He pointed out that some cf the money in the fund is going to that study. Councilor Brenner asked if there was a substantive issue to be dis- cussed every month. She said she had the feeling also that the project is as good as deed. Mayor Henderson said he had started tea .send Council - members ► inutes of the meetings and he old continue to do so. In that way they could determine whether the monthly meetings are necessary. The motion passed unanimously, Councilmember Witherspoon absent. MOTION: Councilmeaber Eyerly moved, seconded by Renzel, that the Resolution of Appreciation to fir. Vogt be brought forward on the agenda. The motion passed unanimously, Connci lmember Witherspoon absent. RESOLUTION CF APPRECIATION TO Mayor Henderson said that $r. Vogt had served the City of Palo Alto as a member of the Architectural Review Board since June 1973. He served as Vice Chaim of the ARS in 1973, 1974 and 1977. He was Chairman in 1974, 1975 and 1975. Mayor Henderson commended Mr. Vogt for the significant personal contribution he hes ague to the community through his diligent and conscientious efforts whole suing as a member of the ARR. He presented me. Vogt with a Resolution recording the City's appreciation for the outstanding public service rendered by Mr. Vogt. NOTION: Vice Mayor Sher introduced the following resolution and moved, seconded by Fazzino, its adoption. ION NO. 5015 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE C"t UNC I L OF EXPRESSING APPRECIATION TO PHILIP W. YOST FOR OUTSTANDING Pt LIC SERVICE AS A NEMER OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW ; . 00.7 miso Mr. Vogt expressed his thanks and appreciation not only to the City Council for their support and confidence of his recurring candidacy for membership on the ARB, but also for the support of some questionable decisions. He expressed his personal appreciation to all those who comprise the City staff for their assistance. He chose this opportunity to share his awards with his wife who has also served the City as a faithful member of the Neighbors Abroad Program; which is Palo Alto's sister city program; she served that program for 10 years. Mayor Henderson in turn thanked Mr. and Mrs. Vogt for the service they have given the City. The motion passed on a unanimous vote, Council ber Witherspoon absent. A AS HORSE BOARDING FEES CMR:318:0) Melissa Parsons thanked the Council for the opportunity to speak. She first spoke about the collections of the fees of Arastra. She was not sure if the Councilmembers were aware of the analysis that was done in an attempt to familiarize riders with the pricing structure of the area. Staff had compa► d the fees on Arastra which do not include feed and cleaning with fees of other facilities which do include both feed and cleaning, but made no attempt to compare apples with apples. She recommended that the Council roll back the fees to the previous levels in order to re- main competitive. Ms. Parsons expressed concern over how she felt Palo Alto spent the tax- payers money to fence in an open space to prevent people from riding in an area where in the last 16 years she has never seen people ride. There was no perceivable benefit which succeeded in erring the beauty of the open space. Now, instead of being able to look, across the hills to the bay or to other rolling hills, you see a row of fence posts. She appealed to the Council that they stop the nonsense "improvement" of this beautiful area. Mayor Henderson said he believed this was an attempt to no longer continue banning riders from connecting from Los Altos area towards Portola Valley, etc., and that they just put the fence in in order to provide a trail that would connect and allow riders to go through. Robert Geticy, 309 Lathrop Drive, Stanford, said he had fprticipated with Melissa Parsons in the cost analysis, a little less so with the comparative facilities. He had done an independent analysis and Ms. Parsons` minimum figure was $69.00 whereas, his was something like $75.00 a reonth. She had covered most of the points and he wished to support her statement. The fence she referred ,o is not the fence on the peri phi .a 1 trail but the one across the property. Mayor Henderson asked if anyone else wished to speak on this item. He then asked if staff had any additional comments. Bill latter, City Manager, recalled a long discussion regarding the trails and fees and concluded with; regard to the fee after reviewing the material provided by Ms. Parsons that the City's projected fees may have been a bit high; therefore, they are recommending that there be a delay of one year in implementing the seco d half of the increase, which would pull the fees down. With regard to the trails, staff has fenced only those areas which were indicated to the Countc i 1 and for which they have approval. MOTION: Counci lmember Fletcher moved. seconded by Renzel, approval of the staff recommemdatioa that the City Council postpone the second step of the Arastra Stable fees iecrarrse until July 1961. Councilmember Brenner commented that Palo Alto has not made it a policy to use the Arastra land for horses. It is simply to apply an interim policy that allows a condition that has been in existence for some time to continue until there is a regular policy decision. Therefore, she felt it was an incorrect assumption to lcok at this as a permanent thing or even to be able to compare it very successfully with other operations which are in business and which are permanent. The motion passed on a unanimcus vote, Councilmember Witherspoon absent. Vice Mayor Sher commented that the fencing discussion was disturbing and suggested that the question be followed up as to whether an additional fence had been put up other than the one Council approved for the peripheral route, which was provided for safety, and which he thought had everyone's agreement. Dave Adams, Director of Public Works, confirmed that no additional fence had been erected, Mayor Henderson apologized for the del ay e s e .:he other agenda items before them that evening. He said they should oe as totally represented as possible and he had been told that the other party would be there shortly. MOTION: Councilmember Eyerly moved, seconded by Sher, to bring forward the Southgate/Evergreen Park Neighbor'}' *od Traffic Study. The .notion passed on unanimous vote, Councilmernber Witherspoon absent. SOUTHGATE EYERGREEM PARK �i 1,, if • Mr. Knox recalled some past history about the area. On April 8, staff distributed a survey to Southgate residents asking for their response for or against the idea of total closure of Castilleja at Peers Park. .6% of those surveyed were opposed to the closure. On May 30, the staff completed a report and distributed a second survey to Southgate residents describing the details of their study to date. The residents were asked to indicate on a postcard whether they preferred closure, a compromise plan 4* some other modification. The result was tabulated at 80% for full closure or the ' compromise solution. Only 20% wanted no change and no acts on. On July 1 residents were sent a letter informing them of the outcome of the May 30 survey and advising them that this item would be before Council on July 7. On July 3 the staff report was prepared recom- mending the 60 day trial compromise plan. Staff's recommendation is to hove a 60 -day trial of a traffic control plan, as described in the staff report. This would reverse the direction of Castilleja, make one way the connection bed Castilleja and Park Blvd. at Peers Park. This recom- mendation is the outcome of traffic surveys and engineering findings described! earlier. He outlined the Council's alternatives. Mr. Knox introduced Carl Stoffel, Transportation Engineer, who has worked in the neighborhood and with the neighborhood and who will answer any technical questions the Council may have. Mayor Hendeeson asked about the time frame if Council decided to include the Evergreen Study. Mr.: Knox r1 i ed about seven months. Councilmember Fletcher inquired if the postcard response survey had in- cluded the Evergreen neighbored. Mr. Knox said it included only Southgate. Councilmmmber Fletcher asked for staff's response to charges that the Evergreen neighborhood had been overlooked. 0`0.9 ,'il7ieo Carl Stoffel responded and said that initially the first two meetings were with the Evergreen Park neighborhood and the Southgate neighborhood. When it came down to figuring out a solution to the Southgate problems, it was decided to separate the two studies and address the Southgate area first. MOTION TO TABLE: Councilmenber Levy moved, seconded by Fazzino, to table this item until the items re election of Mayor and Vice Mayor and the appointment of an ARS member had been dealt with. The motion passed unanimously, Councilmember Witherspoon absent. MOTION: Counci lmer►ber Renzel moved, seconded by Fletcher, to bring forward the election of Mayor and Vice Mayor and the appointment of an ARB member out of order. The motion passed unanimously,.Councilmember Witherspoon absent. ELECTION OF MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR Mayor Henderson said the City Charter states that the Mayor and Vice Mayor shall be elected by the Council at the first meeting in July to serve for one year or until their successors are appointed. Paper ballots with Councilmembers` individual names printed on them have been provided and Council will vote first for Mayor. Ms. Tanner, the City Clerk, will then tally and announce the votes of each ballot. The first Councilnember to receive a majority of five votes will be elected Mayor. Mayor Henderson received seven votes and was re-elected Mayor on the first ballot: Counrilmember Brenner Renzel Cyerly Levy Fletcher Fazzino Henderson Sher Witherspoon Cast Vote Henderson Henderson Fazzino Henderson Henderson Henderson Henderson Henderson Absent For: Mayor Henderson thanked stiff for making it possible for a person who worked fullti a at another job to be able to get through the Mayorship duties. He said it was mainly because of the help staff gave him and the cooperation he received. Mayor Henderson said that balloting for the Vice Mayor's post would be handled in the same way. Vice Mayor Sher received six votes and was re-elected Vice Mayor on the first ballot: Councilmember Cast Vote Brenner Sher Levy Sher Fletcher Sher Fazzino `. Sher Henderson Sher Sir Absta i ned Renzel Sher E.yerly Fazzino Witherspoon Absent 0 1 0 7/7/80 For: APPOINTMENT TO ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD Mayor Henderson said Council would vote to fill the unexpired term of Philip Vogt, ending September 30, 1981. Five persons had applied and In alphabetical order they were: Joselyn P. Baum, M.D., Richard D. Elmore, Wallace H. Jordan, AIA, Paul E. Rush, AIA, rand John Sutorius. The Council interviewd applicants a week ago. Mayor Henderson said voting would be by paper ballot and the Clerk would announce each vote. John Sutorius received five votes and was appointed to the Architectural Review Board to fill the term expiring September 30, 1981: Couecilmember_ Vote Cast For: Levy Baum Brenner Baum Henderson Sutorius Fazzino Sutorius Fletcher Sutorius Sher Sutorius Renzel Elmore Eyerly Sutorius Witherspoon Absent UT i' ►rE'EVERc REE,N PARK Ei TRAFFIC Y " n •e11W�9ti'RIIi1 age r 1AN o�R6 tO.4A®i�!) Ie`I. MOTION: Councilrember° Renzel moved, seconded by Sher, that the Southgate/ Evergreen item be rived from the table. The motion passed unanimously, Councilm e+r►ber Witherspoon absent. Mayor Henderson called upon members of the audience who wished to speak to the item. Albert Weiss. 1641 Castilleio, said he bought his home in 1960 and it was then a two-way street. He described the way it has been for the last twenty years, and he felt no changes should to made. Hr L. Smith, 290 Oxford, cited a mating which she said she had not been notified of. She felt that a few people should not have the say on any changes etet are bo be mode on the streets and that such decisions should come befog' the voters became the streets beloeg to everyone, Mir. McKinney, 304 Oxford, said he bed never received any information regarding this ratter. There sew to be a particularinterest group who have formed this Southgate/Evergreen study. He thought the City should also look at Mariposa as it loop like a used car lot. Me said he did not feel that blocking off Southgate is the armor to anything; it will put a load on Birch Street. He also felt it should go to a vote of the people. Mrs. Taylor, corner of Oxford end Birch, said she has lived in that area for 26 years, She said there wasn't h' traffic on that street and it is all right the wmy it is. She said she did not receive any notices about the meetings. She felt the streets should be left they way they were. John Canyon, 270 Leland, said he did not see any traffic problems on Casti l lea or Mariposa. He travels those streets everyday on his bicycle and rarely saes very much traffic. He asked about alternative routes. Was it seriously being suggested that they -go all the rw,y around by El Camino. He thought that wes totally unacceptable, especially when one is trying to conserve energy. He felt that no one arta should be exclusive and that pule who bought property ae occessitreets should be aware of any possible traffic Situation. He said he did not understand Mr. Stoffel's comments that this was not really a concern of Evergreen; that is, in fact, closing the door in residents' faces. He noted there had been two notices sent to people in Southgate, none in Evergreen, except to one person in favor of the closure. He thought that sounded like a bias. He recalled that the Castilleja Park entrance was closed once before and asked how often they should protest. Nancy Samuelson spoke for Louise Haskins who has lived in the Evergreen area since 1948, and who could not attend this meeting. Ms. Samuelson quoted from Ms. Haskins' letter. Ms. Haskins was one of the people who were not notified, at the original point, and as a Coop member has an added interest in what could be an unnacessary closing. She felt that she would be cut off from a very good route for her to get downtown. She said Ms. Haskins was concerned that this might be the beginning of a feud between Southgate and Evergreen Park. Ms. Haskins requested postponement of a decision. Her letter is on file in the City Clerk's Office. Helen Hayden, corner of Miranonte and Castilleja, said she has lived at that address for 38 years. She had concerns about the methods used for traffic count. On March 18 between the hours of 6 and 8, there were 18 cars passing the corner, and from 8 to 9 there were 38. 4r. Stoffel made the comment that he hasn't seen any traffic in the neighborhood. She suggested that there be a recount at the corner of Casti l l ej a and Mi ram ante, and not just off Churchill; she felt the results would be quite different. May Stevens said several people have mentioned to her that they are very concerned over the use of tax money and her main concern is the count of cars. In front of her home on Castil lej ?, she has seen very few cars. She said she did not receive notices of the two meetings, the committee group was not representative of the neighborhood, and decisions are being made without consideration of community feelings, She hoped the Council would consider the matter very carefully before making any proposed changes. Lois Johnson, 230 Sequoia Avenue, said she has gone through this closing once before and would like to avoid going through it again. Barriers were not successful before. She would like the Council to postpone a decision on this particular agenda item, Corinne Powell, 302 College, also urged the Couefl to postpone any action. She said as a member of the Evergreen Park she feels they have been ignored, and that the problem is one shared by both neighborhoods. She claims a tremendous amount of traffic goes past the corner of College and Birch according to Mr. Stoffel's figures when he took his' initial count, there were 1,160 cars a day past her house, 945 cars on Mariposa and 1,080 on Castillej ik She feels that Evergreen has been neglected in any kind of solution proposed so far. Ms.. Powell also had a letter that she read to the Council from Vanessa White, 307 College Avenue & who was net able to attend. The letter cites examples of some of the events that have occurred due to reckless driving and speed in her particular area. She read: "ors of the City Council, as a resident of College Avenue, I would flke to attest to the fact that traffic roves too fast, and sometimes goes out of control in front of my home. For the last two months, my car has been hit twice, once by a policeman chasing a speeder, and once late at night, hit and run. The second time was due to the fact that the hit and run driver was out of control and could not wake the cornier. Both , tights ay car was perked well next to the curb and ter my home." Sincerely, Vanessa !!Hite. Joseph Cos anda, 355 College, at the corner of College and Birch, said he was really surprised at how much traffic there is there, and the aunt is astonishing because, he said, he thought it seemed like a ciuiet neighborhood. There is rarely a time of day except • possibly weekends when there aren't cars going by all the tine without interruption. an. It wasn't until the Dece.ber nesting in his neighborhood that be realized how many cars Uwe act ! iy were, and he is surprised to find the figures between College and Cambridge on Birch were not included because that figure was the highest figure of any,stretch in the entire two neighborhoods. He believed it was around 2,200 and that is more than the combined traffic on Mariposa and Castilleja. He expressed his concern at the first meeting December, at that time Mr. Stoffel said that it should be tabled until a later time because the Mariposa/Castil.eja problem was already too complex to deal with another problem at the same meeting. He said he's especially concerned that something be done about it because he didn't think that any closures on Mariposa and Castilleja will completely deal with the problem on that stretch of Birch. He felt these problems were important to him because he lives on the corner but also to other people who live in the Evergreen Park neighborhood. David Schram, 302 College Avenue, feels that ire is probably one of the people who have studied this problem the longest and hardest over this last year, He said he and Mr. Stoffel have a basic disagreement about the nature of the Mandate that the City Council issued to the traffic division a year ago when it approved tine report setting the priorities for the neighborhood traffic studies. He felt that the way the problem was characterized in the report was a situation that existed from Churchill to the California Avenue area that needed to be addressed in its entirety. He believed that the staff felt the area to be dealt With was only to the north of Park Blvd. The notices -regarding the meetings, he felt, by their very nature were a disincentive to the people in the neighborhood to attend. The seoncd notice specifically limited the discussion to three proposals for alterations on Southgate and had a map of only the Southgate portico of the neighborhood so even though it ryas delivered to the people in our neighborhood, a glance told therm it had to do with eanething other than the immediate concern. Anything done in these two neighborhoods needs to address all the problems that exist there. Part of the preconception that has led to the separation of the two neighborhoods has also carried over into a kind of exclusion of many people it the neighborhood from feeling that they had a part in the planning process and what you'ae heard here tonight was a lot of angry voices, voices by people who haven't he says particularly carefully studied the problem and who perhaps feel they haven't been given an adequate chance to do so, in a way that eeables them to contribute something. He believes any solution that is offered in this kind of climate is destined, to fail, if only in terms of taking the people of Palo Alto and drawing thee farther apart from each other. He personally believes that it's possible to go through the neighborhood and to have the people who are interested in dealing with this question come together and arrive at some sort of consensus. .He cited the difference between the letter that was read tonight from Louise Haskins,. and the letter that she wrote on .April 21st of this last Wednesday in Times Tribune, particularly the difference a few conversations with the neighbors made in whet she feels. He appreciated the opportunity to speak before the Council end is looking forward to working witty -neighbors V) solving this problems after a complete study of both neighborhoods has been undertaken. Sask is hoi ssevai n representing the California Avenue Aiwa Development Association, 410 Cambridge Avenue, said the CAAOA is against this Southgate closure as they have been against other closers in the past, due to the problems it 1s ceeeine.. It is a slow strangulatton of the access routes to the California Avenue area shopping district. CAADA did not receive notification.of this meeting as,sae of the other speakers; she got copies via theCoop, and would appreciate-notification.in the future and not a snort notice Of ',the time. It was -her understanding that a survey. ems conducted on Southgate only and by previous conversations. She believes the City should look at surveys of other areas like Churchill, College, El Camino, end Park Blvd.., to real l y see the f01 picture of theimpact of this problem. Sid Wilkins, lives on the corner of Castilleja I ilnzanita Avenue, said'the ;turfy revealed the dangerous conditions on Maariposa and Castilleja. He -had helped -nand deliver a lot of t44 notices of the stings both in $04 1,044 and Evergraea Park ared . Mai 1 Ing the' on light poles, and ,gal ng door to door. There was about five people involved in handing out notices and he does not understand why people have rot been at the meetings. People who object to any of the solutions, he says, always say there are no problems but there really are many problems.- There was a child killed on Mariposa, many years ago. At Fie Sullivan's five years ago, a car went clear on up his front lawn and landed on his porch from not negotiating a turn on Churchill and Castilleja, and there has been numerous amounts of accidents, speeders, and a lot of dangerous and hazardous conditions on those two streets. No doubt about it, business will suffer on California Avenue, but can you put a price on life, how do you measure the accidents. Its taken fifteen years of dealing with the Transportation Division and he would like to congratulate Carl Stoffel for coming up with some pretty good suggestions, and he thanked all for their time and hoped a good solution can be reached for everybody. Michael Sullivan, 1515 Castilleja, said he feels there is a very serious problem in this area with the volume of traffic. He does not believe the traffic survey lies and there is no question about the tremendous volume of traffic limn through very narrow streets. He has had commuters chase him down his driveway because he was driving too slowly, holding them up, and been threatened for going twenty-five miles an hour on a very narrow street with a lot of cars. He said he has any eleven year old son, to whom he talks to regularly regarding the amount of care he has to take in the neighborhood due to the speed and the volume of traffic. He realized that for some residents in the area it Will be an inconvenience but as a community, we have to take a balanced view, and a balanced view would be, considering the volume of traffic and speed, that the safety question far outweighs the inconvenience. He said that he resented input from merchants, and considers it wholly inappropriate for a community like Palo Alto to even consider that the economic strength of California Avenue is so hor dependent on a thousand cars pouring dcwn a very narrow street. He is completely completely sympathetic with the people of Evergreen Park, and would continue his involvement in this whole issue to help solve the problem. He hopes that a chasm is not created to press one issue against another; he thinks both are legitimate but believes that a solution to the Castiilejaf Maripose question will provide some immediate relief for Evergreen Park, Linda Shilling, 1680 Mariposa, says she gets all the sound'effects of traffic effects and the commuters coming down Castilleja onto Park and from Park onto Mariposa. A lot of the problem is the speed in which people come around that corner and clear onto Mariposa. Her neighbor across the street would have had five or six cars in her living room by now except for one sturdy tree, which is getting weaker each year by cars running into it. She felt that the area was not being closed but merely that traffic would be diverted into a saner pattern for a residential area that would discourage commuters and through traffic to use it. She felt that children were a special interest group and should be considered more so than a lot of the neighborhood special interest groups. Everyone would still be able to get out to California Avenue, and everyone would be inconvenienced an equal amount. A sixty day trial is not unreasonable and would not cramp anybody's style. Mt. Gayle !Wool l eyr cane forward to commend the staff for their very thorough efforts on this study which has been going on now for over a .,ear. Three greetings which were well attended by over 100 people, was followed by consultations twice and postcards twice. She felt that the sixty day trial is a favorable wad to go, and that enough study had been devoted to this issue. She also said that in the staff report it was related that the segment of Mariposa„ was the single most hazardous street segment in all of Palo Alto, and wondered how much evidence is needed to see that there is indeed a problem. There is no block that has a greater problem than that 1600 block. She said that she would like to second Mr. Sullivan's vier that safety ought to be a priority of the. Council over convenience and she would h.ap, that they would place safety over over convenience for the _ _ sixty day trial period. John Monroe, 1570 Madrone, Southgate, has lived at this address for a year and a half with his wife and sons, ages seven and two, and before that lived at 1545 Castilleja in the same neighborhood for the previous six years. He felt that Southgate has a problem with through traffic on Castilleja and Mariposa as the staff study has shown and that the problem is less the volume of traffic and the speed at which the traffic moves on Castilleja and Mariposa. It is his belief that it is the through traffic, and speed, which causes the resultant noise and accidents. He said that accidents have occurred quite often as has been stated. He and his wife would like to support some kind of action to alleviate this traffic problem, which is a real problem in Southgate, and said that they eupport the idea of doing this also as a start to help the Evergreen Park solve the problem which exists in the neighborhood as well, and they hoped Council amid consider the sixty day trial closure right away. Linda Blasak asaicsaid she and her husband have been following the Southgate issue for the past year and felt that the tax -payers' money has been put to good use and ceded the staff on the work they have: done. Ms. Blasak said that she uses Birch street a lot, and that she doesn't feel it would be an inconvenience for her to use El Camino. She understood that the Comprehensive Plan for the city does call for the residential streets not to be used as thoroughfares for business and she felt that (1 Camino is a safer street with the signal lights. She also felt that its very inappropriate for the merchants to be concerned about their business and using residential streets as means to get to their businesses. Ms. Blasak felt that the problem is becoming couch worse. They have lived there for eight years and are amazed at the traffic. She is more concerned about the older people, because their reflexes are slower. She said the neighborhood should be preserved and she really is for the sixty day closing. Misr Rasmussen, 300 Sequoia, has lived there for 39 years. She recommended a recount of the traffic. She felt in most cases the count was exaggerated. She said that the people on Southgate residents themselves create a certain amount of traffic problems, most of the people have two and three cars, and they park them on the side, and that makes the street look narrow. She felt the merchants on California Avenue sheulo also have been included in the mailing of notices. She observed that Palo Alto is not the farm that it used to be fifty years ago, and that she has lived ° in Palo Alto. since 1911. She felt the growth was increasing all the time with the Industrial Part located here and she would like the count done over. Erie Prince, 302 College Avenue, said she felt the s st is ortant thing was to solve the problem between the two neighborhoods and not working together will set both neighborhoods back. As an example. Southgate neighborhoods rived notices on this meeting, w ereas Evergreen did not. That type of taut turns people off, end they t come to meeting like this. She thought there are other piss i bl a plans which might be considered, as in keeping the park & seighbortood part instead of a place for people to hang out. She also felt that with more effort people could compromise their ideas, and that is: what should be happening. The Mayor asked that if there was anyone else that wanted to speak, to come forward at this time. There being none, the Council recessed from 9:40 - 10:00 p.m. Mayor Henderson bright the meeting to order and noted the petitions Couecil received from residents of the Southgate area, requesting a post- ponement of the Southgate traffic report. The petitions contained 83 signatures from the Southgate area. Carl Stoffel, Transportation Engineer* rest to some of the major points raised by members of the public. He said the ale Mariposa, Castilleja issue was initially brought to the space by a special interest group, people who lived there end felt there was a Ofeblea, but the staff's job is to go outand seep if that* ra 111. is s pr°obleaa, and that was the first thing that was done and the staff confirmed that the traffic problem did exist on the two streets and it was documented in various reports that the Council received. There's been quite a histovy to Mariposa and Castilleja as to the whole problem, just the fact that a barrier was put up once back in 1964 does attest to the fact that something was happening there and that someone does think a traffic problem exists. Of course the diverter that is there now was put in the 1960's and it's still there today and that was put in there with the intention of somehow easing the through traffic along Mariposa and Castilleja. Another significant fact expressing that there is a problem was that during the first survey the Mariposa and Castilleja residents actually indicated that 85% vote in favor of closing their two streets, in a sense denying themselves the access to the California Avenue area. That was a good indication that they also think there was a problem on those two streets beyond the actual engineering data that was gathered. Naturally, staff's survey of through traffic did confirm that approximately S0% of all the traffic on Mariposa and Castilleja is non-resident traffic. In summary, the staff has definitely confirmed that there is u traffic probelm on those streets, and that was the basis for the rest of its study. Particularly it was the basis of the second survey that staff took. The residents were asked at that time to respond to one of two plans, one of which was the full closure another was the compromise solution which you see in front of you and it also had a p?ace for comments or other preference. Because the staff did recognize than a problem existed and verified it the survey was put forth in a way that tried to emphasize that they have the mandate from the Comprehensive Plan to take some action in cases where these through traffic problems are documented. Mr. Stoffel said the staff did feel that there was room there for the people to respond with different ideas and comments or preference that they wished. As far as talking about that survey, it could have been designed of course in another way, such as full barrier, the compromise solution, no change, and other ideas. The City staff did it the other way because they felt they did have the problem to solve and wanted to emphasize the fact that something did need to be done. The traffic counts were done many times, and staff basically are confident that the tallies are correct. They could always do them again if that is what the Council wished. The City staff has done their best to distribute leaflets and flyers. Prr. Stoffel apologized for the instances where the postcards and flyers did nct reach the people, and will keep on trying to improve this. There 'Are many people who spoke during the commentary that said they did not receive postcards and these were people who are from the Evergreen Park area where the mailings were not done the same way as for Southgate. The solutioh that is recm eaed, based'on the study is not a closing of the Southgate neighborhood such as in 1964, or such as was discussed earlier in the study. ` staff is calling it a compromise solution because it allows access out of the neighborhood, and certainly in the direction that would be the most difficult to get around if it wes closed fully, and hopefully in this way not really closing off the neighborhood but doing the best to solve the traffic problem while maintaining the access that people want. The staff has peoceeded to push the Mariposa/Castilleja study for the bm f i t of the Southgate residents since this problem has been around since mid -1960's, and staff felt that the solution they. came I with also helped to benefit the problem an Birch Street, at _the same thee not adding any extra traffic to the 'Evergreen Perk a hbor r Granted there are other problems perhaps in the EVE Park neighborhood. The resolution of the Southgate study, if this plan is adopted tonight, certainly mil not bring to an end the Evergreen Part study, in fact that is just beginning. The staff has agreed to work with Evergreen Park but has always felt that the Southc, ate problem should be taken care of as much as possible first. Just briefly, ire are many alternative plena that the staff and neighborhoodhas looked at and that this is the end result of the process, even some of the other alternatives were summarized in some of the mailings to the neighborhood and also were Included in the Council picket. fir. Stoffel felt that the staff hod done a faiFly prod job of evaluating as moony plans as possible and felt that this plan dnes represent the end product of several months of looking at many different kinds of solutions. In closing, he asked if there were any specific questions from members of the Council, if so he would be glad to answer them. Mayor Henderson brought the discussion back to the Council. Councilmecnber Eyerly asked about the staff report of July 3 where staff mentioned the study with the comprehensive analysis of Evergreen Park to be conducted in Phase II, and asked for a little more input. as far as the amount of time involved, or when there might be some further relief for some of the problems in the Evergreen Park area. Kr, Stoffel said that the staff has made an estimate that if they were to begin the Evergreen Park study now, staff estimates it would take seven to eight months. The Evergreen Park area may be a little bit more difficult to analyze because it has a few more influences and things going on there that are not going on in the Southgate neighborhoods, specifically the shopping district, some industrial area, and the Southern Pacific Depot. It does_ take'et fairly comprehensive analysis of some of the factors infringing on the neighborhood to analyze the traffic problems that do exist in Evergreen Park. He would estimate from today, at least eight months before staff could make some concrete decisions there. Councilmemter Eyerly asked if that was going to happen automatically or if it would take a policy direction from the Council in,view of varieq.rs priorities in the neighborhood. Mr. Stoffel said staff has made the decision to go on ahead with the full study of the Evergreen neighborhood and has called it Phase II. The city w de neighborhood traffic plan that was approved by council in 1979 did list 'everal specific neighborhoods in Palo Alto in or.ier of priority and the staff felt that they couldn't very well, unless specifically directed by Council, add in the Evergreen Park study as a full neighborhood study ahead of some of these others which are caring up. Mr. Knox said it would be helpful for Council to give direction to staff if 'it wanted the k°vergreen Park study to be moved up in that process. As Mir. Stoffel had painted out there have been references to it and staff is prepared to conduct Phase II,,but it would be nice to have formal Council direction to take it up, Mlayor Henderson noted that o3 the petition that was received, there was a real breakdown within the Southgate area, in that the pale on Mariposa and Castilleja are in favor of. this plan and the petitiot.is almost totally Mladrona, Portola, and Sequoia, and they are going to get some additional t: affil because that is the way you get over to make access into the Evergreen area. He did not agree with the person who said that the College Terrace barrier system has not been successful, he felt that it has been very successful in cutting out over 80% of the commit* traffic and log king at a map for that type of barrier system, he . onderad if this type of system should be looked at. Mr. Knox. said _the _state et o_ ne. tine did close off the entrance from armorer to El - Califno, and that there Was a "fe'ice type barrier across there -end there was some opposition to _that it was taken out and a triangular type isle►nd was pelt in which has made it more difficula for through traffic.Tte-eame in there. Carl Stoffel. sa?d that staff looked at one alternative 010 was actually a variaaaon of the onfateat is ule there Which involved instead of changing the direction of Castilleja. it iovolaea making Castilleeja a two way street and putting in a couple of actual physical College Terrace type barriers on CastllleJa and Escabita, This particular alternative and actually was the.only otokwiric0 Woolly involved barrio*. Eves the alternative staff presented at the March 18th neighborhood meeting, along with the others presented did not generate much comment. Staff felt that in light of some of the opposetion and comments that were ,:xpressed by residents, even those concerning any changes in the neighborhood,'if they began to discuss some of the more controversial total closures of their own streets beyond just one or two, it would be very difficult to make progress in getting any solution to the neighborhood; so staff did look at that and did present an alternative but it died early in the process and staff has not pursued it since. Mayor Henderson said that he could see the alternative and that it would not have worked because for one thing it left Mariposa wide open which is exactly the way it is now and the other streets, if only two of them have blockades on them, then the others obviously are going to get some traffic. This alternating type of system, to his mind, works very well in College Terrace and certainly keeps him out. If he goes through he goes very slowly and he is not on a rite hurry. Mayor Henderson said that he didn't know how the Southgate matter would ever be solved unless in some manner each of those streets is protected. if you close off two, then the rest of then are going to be impacted, and if you look at this kind of a system no body i, hurt that much, you may go a block out of your way, but it really protects the street from through traffic. Councilmember Renzel questioned whether they had a complete traffic measurement for the Evergreen neighborhood; before the barriers, and the traffic picture at the barrier, so that if they were to embark on a temporary measure in Southgate, they would have the cud~rent; traffic picture well in hand. Then there would be valuable information of the impact on Evergreen, should there be any, for the proposed barriers in Southgate. Carl Stoffel said they had a -fairly recent traffic count, on many of the streets in the Evergreen Park neighborhood. The ones on Park Boulevard were last taken in 1977 so some more recent ones would have to be taken there, none exist for College Avenue, and some of the cirtical ones on birch staff may want to retake those. So there are a few more counts to be done in the Evergreen Park neighborhood, and they should be done anyway whether or not they proceed with the Southgate barriers Wit, ause they will need the count to begin to look at that area. Councilmember Renzel said that her concern was that they have the data before anything is done with Southgate so that they don't lack comparative information during the trial period. Carl Stoffel said they would have time. before Southgate is implemented, to gather that data. Ccxrncil r Fletcher said that it bathers her a little bit if the trial period is approved now, and. the count is taken on Evergreen during the summer. it may not be representative of cants after the opening of school in September. She was not sure how one would monc i l e that the fact being it might not be an accurate carat if it were to be done now. Carl Stoffel replied that was correct —if the. proposal were implemented the first of August. the end of the 60 -day trial period would fall around the first of October, which would be a few weeks after the beginning of hookis other words, the program would be starting while school was out and the follow-up count would be after school began. Re said that bright create a problem because the counts the City had now were taken during school a d that it wasn't a good idea to compare the counts during the period when school was out with counts taken when school was in session. He said the City would have to work around that problem. Mayor Henderson asked what the proposal for, the test barrier would cost City, . ,010. Stoffel said estl*sties were bed $800 and $1,000 inclwiltigAidoor and materials. Mayor Henderson said the City would have to go through what it did on College Terrace. It had to go through a lot of barrier proposals. He doesn't think the proposal will work, but feels the only way to resolve this issue is to go ahead with the staff recommendation as a start and that this test will probably prove that barriers will have to be put on every one of the cross streets if the through traffic on Southgate is to be stopped. MOTION: It was moved by Mayor Henderson, seconded by Fletcher, that Council approve staff recommendation and adopt a resolution authorizing a 60 -day trial of the *compromise" solution described in CMR:328:0. At the end of the 60 -day period, staff to report back to Council with a study of the impacts and recommendations for further action. RESOLUTION 5816 entitled RE SOl UT I ON OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO IMPLEMENTING THE SOUTFGATE TRAFFIC CONTR. PLAN FOR A NINETY -DAY TRIAL PERIOD Councilmember Fazzino said he could not agree with Mayor Henderson's philosophy. You can't have half of the neighborhood complaining while the test is being conducted in the other half. He said he would oppose the motion on the floor and he would like to support a postponement of the issue. He thought staff should put this matter on the first priority basis. He said the success of solving this problem is dependent upon support of community and neighborhood. There is no quick or easy solution to the problem, but he feels a far more comprehensive study of the entire area with emphasis of the Evergreen Park problem and its relation to Southgate area is needed. Chairman Fazzino also commented on the references crude to lack of communication by the City with the residents. He said the sucess in any alternate control would be to get the support of the community. He said he did not consider staff's recommendation too drastic, but he is concerned about the additional traffic on some of the other streets created by this test. Vice -Mayor- Sher said it appears there is a serious problem on Mariposa and Castille,ja which needs to be addressed. The petition filed tells him the residents on Madrono, Portola, and Sequoia fear they will suffer the consequences of the experiment. He said there is a serious traffic problem in the Evergreen area that also needs to be addressed The residents of the area feel they have been left cad of the proceas. They also feel the compromise solution does nothing to help their. problem ,and, if the't'v lai period is put into effect, nothing will be done to alleviate their problem. He would like to see a delay of the proposal for a reasonable period of time to see if the neighbors can came up with a better solution, eeed that staff should be directed to work with residents of the Evergreee and Southgate areas to explore other possibilities. Counc; immmmember Fletcher explained her reason for seconding Ma,yur Henderson's motion. Se said she isn't convinced it is the overall solution, but feels the trial period will have more benefits thanbad effects. The Evergreen area will be looked at and an analysis mom. It agars they will be the beneficiaries of less traffic if the plan is implemented, so putting the trial period off is not going to help. The increased traffic on Redraft and Por to l a will not be near the dimension of decrease on Mariposa and Castilleja. The expected decrease on Mariposa is 725 cars per day versus the increase of 120 on i rono . Therefore, she cow l udes the benefits are greater than the detrtmental effect on Madrono. However, she does feel badly about pushing extra traffic on any streets. 01 9 7/7/00 Councilmember Fletcher said the reservation she does have about the plan is that the Mariposa/Castilleja route links up with a very heavily used bicycle route through Park Boulevard, which is used by students travelling from the south Palo Alto area to Palo Alto High School. She said she hoped something could be arranged whereby bicycles are provided for. She thought perhaps the Palo Alto Bicycle Advisory Committee could look this situation over and come up with a recommendation. She said she is aware of the traffic problem in the area. She has seen the reckless driving around Park and Sequoia. People almost lose control as they go around the curve onto Mariposa. She will vote for the plan, to be evaluated with the prospect of making recommendations later. Councilraember Levy commended staff on the work they have done. He said this is one of the most difficult traffic problems they have had to solve. The work that has been done is quite thorough, and the proposal has been carefully thought out and discussed with the residents of Southgate. He feels the study falls short because it is a Southgatge study and the fact that Southgate and Evergreen are an inter -related area has been somewhat ignored. He has heard cants from some saying there is a problem and from others that there is no problem. He personally feels there is a problem, but that there is nothing to lose by waiting a little longer and evaluating the situation a little more thoroughly. The evaluation should include further discussions with Evergreen residents in particular. There should be a further analysis on the impact of this proposal and other possibilities on the Evergreen area. He is concerned that if the test is commenced and it rails, it may set the City back and it will not be able to go on to the next step. He thinks the proposal is likely to fail due to lack of neighborhood cooperation. He prefers to woo t a little longer and to consider a solution that is more caref•-<., discussed with the neighbors. Therefore, he will vote against the :notion, but would support a motion to conduct further tests. Count i 1; er Fenzel commented that staff has worked with Southgate, primarily, and also with Evergreen Park residents to seek a solution to this traffic problem. She said a tremendous amount of N,''rk has been put into this and that at some point a test has to be conducted to see where the cars go when the barrier is put up. Others are creative and you have to test to see what these creative drivers will do. She feels the hepact of this trial period on the Evergreen neighborhood should be minimal, and she strongly supports immediate pursuit of solutions to the Evergreen Park neighborhood. Sha said she would either support the 60day trial period or something on the order of Vice -Mayor Sher's pr-opesal of working with the Evergreen neighborhood during an interim period to be certAtg, additional problems are not caused there. Councilmeaber R.enzei also said she knew staff was anxious to overlap the school and non school period so try could see how that differs during the trial period. She thoe ght that would be usefel information since the school traffic was probably a considerable part of the prob l emr in that ne i ghborhood . Counc i, lamer Eyerly said he wou l d like to have a couple of questions answered. (1) Could Council assume that staff will cause back to to there with reco ndat i ons concerning prob l s which develop in the Southgate area during the 60 -day trial period? (2) if direction is given to move ahead rapidly, at the end of 60 days could staff come back with some definite suggestions for improving some of the traffic problems in the Evergreen urea, particularly in relation to any change that may wee about because of the trial perioe at Southgate? 020 i/7/no► Naphtali Knox pointed out the trial period would start around August and would carry through October 1. He said he had some qualms about how fast the data on the trial period could be developed for Council. He noted an additional 30 -day period may be needed to compile this information. Regarding the Evergreen area, he feels this study may take seven or eight months. He said Evergreen has a lot of roads going through it. It is a different kind of problem than the one in Southgate. He said each neighborhood is different --College Terrace has major traffic running on both California and Stanford -- Southgate has committed itself to a very compact study from a time and geography standpoint-- Evergreen Park is more spread out. He said he would be more comfortable if Council reaffirmed that Phase II of this project is the next step to take. Councilmember Eyerly repeated the first part of his question. Mr. Knox said he was having a little problem understanding the .question, but that as soon as a change was detected which had a considerably negative impact on the Evergreen area, they would come back to Council with recommendations. AMiNOMENT TO MOTION: Moved by Councilmember Eyerly, seconded by Renzel, that Evergreen section be made Phase II of the Southgate trial period and that staff gather Evergreen information before the Southgate 60 day trial period goes into effect; and that the Evergreen study go forward with high priority, with input from Southgate trial, and staff to offer some suggestions at the end of the trial period. Some discussion folioed regarding Councilmember Eyerly`s motion. Councilmember Eyerly explained to Vice -Mayor Sher that he would like to see what the comparison of traffic is in Evergreen before the trial pe:lod and after the trial period. Councilmember Fletcher said she did not think 60 days was enough time to establish a regular pattern and wondered if the maker of the motion would agree to a 90 -day trial period. Mayor Henderson said he would like to handle the motion on the floor first. He was not sure Council was correct in the way it was tying the two sections so closely together. Evergreen area was impacted when the barrier that is now on Park Boulevard was put in. Council has to decide whether it needs to protect the Southgate area from thru traffic. If they want to continue what was started by that barrier then Council has to move in the direction of the original motion. The Evergreei area has to be looked at independently and it should be done immediately. Councilmember Levy asked if any concern had been expressed about other streets in the area or just Birch Street neighborhood. Carl Stoffel replied that in meetings with the Evergreen neighborhoods Park Boulevard has been mentioned and in one way or another all the other streets, including Stanford, have been mentioned. Ccuncilmember Levy said he would vote in favor of t`e amendment. AMENDMENT PASSED 1-G, Brenner, Witherspoon absent. AMENDMENT TO MOTION: Vice -Mayor Sher moved, seconded by Levy, that the proposal go into effect 60 days from now; in the meantime to direct staff to wort with residents of Southgate and Evergreen to discuss ramifications of=the'solu ion and explore other solutions that might be proposed; and direct staff to report back by September 1 and then to o dyad with the trial of the compromise solution, unless otherwise directed by the Council. AMENDMENT FAILS 4,3, by following vote: AYES: Sher, Fazzino, Levy NOES: Eyerly, Henderson, Fletcher, henze 1 ASSENT: Brenner, Witherspoon 021 717100 AMENDMENT TO MOTION: Councilmernber Fletcher moved, seconded by Levy, that the trial period be for 90 days instead of 60 days. AMENDMENT PASSED 4-3, by the following vote: AYES: Eyerly, Fletcher, Fazzino, levy NOES: Renzel, Henderson, Sher ABSENT: Brenner, Wi'iherspoan MAIM MOTION PASSED, as amended, 5-2, on the following vote: AYES: Eyerly, Fletcher, Renzel, Henderson, Sher NOES: Fazzino, Levy ABSENT: Brenner, Witherspoon DISPOSITION OF i b9 PlAt SrkLET (CMR:32S:O) Mayor Henderson said the staff report gives the Council various alternatives without any specific recommendations. He said a letter from the Palo Alto Housing Corporation gives Counci two possible alternatives as recommendations, Lucy Tyler, Housing Advocacy Coordinator for MPCFH, said the Citizens Committee for Fair Housing urged the Council an September 11, 1979 to accept two houses offered to the City by Northern California Savings and Loan. One of these houses is now in place on Pine Street. The most important consideration in disposing of this property should be its retention as part of the City's affordable housing stock. ft could be sold under the BMR program or rented under the Section 8 program. Even one house in the low/moderate income stock will help in the housing situation. Councilmenber Levy .asked Ms. Tyler if the Midpeninsula Citizens for Fair Housing would prefer to see this one house being made available for low/moderate income housing or sold on the open market, with the proceeds used to purchase a duplex to provide housing for two families, as a possible alternative. .Ms. Tyler replied her understanding is that the most important consideration is the retention of this one house --it would be in an area were at present there is no affordable housing. The feeling is that if this goes into a general sort of thing, the housing would not be made available immediately. Council er Fletcher asked if MPCFH has a position on whether the houses should be sold or rented. Ms.Tyler replied she believed they did not have a position. Counci lr Renzel said having attended many Housing Corporation meetings as the liaison to the corporation, she has heard pros and c fs of the possible _options for disposing of the site. - She said her personal preference is to sell the house to the Housing Corporation for the rental horsing acquisition program. Her reason for this alternative is that in some sense the City would be contriouting a landbanking portion of this by way of the property, but by the same token, under the rental housing acquisition program at any time some better alternative that would provide more omits beame available the unit could be sold on the open market with p.oceeds going toward the acquisition of more wits. It's eery difficult to pursue units carder the rental housing acquisition program and negotiations, are co mp l ex and usually quite lengthy. Meanwhile, money in the bank is losing value at a very high rate, whereas existing housing stock is gaining value at a very high rate. Therefore she feels retention of he house is very important in terms of its value to the City's housing program Correction and it could be put off for the purchase of multiple units at a later See Pg. 132 time if that became a higher priority. 8/25/80 $0T10 : It was moved by Councilaeaaer Renzel, .seconded by Fletcher, that Council support Staff Option O. 022 7/7/80 Vice -Mayor Sher said he too supported Option 3, but he had a question regarding the assumption made in connection with it. That had to do with the selling price to the Housing Corporation must be equal to the loan that should be carried based on the monthly rental that could reasonably be charged. This leaves the City S15,000 short of recovering costs of moving and rehabilitating the house woedered if it would be possible for the Housing Corporation to pay $15,000 from its RHAP funds to acquire the house. Napthali Knox responded by saying he does not believe the Community Development Block Grant funds can be used to buy something from ourselves. They could use them to buy something from some other party, but not from the City. It is the City's land and building. Sher asked if there were any other funds in the program besides the CDSG funds. Mr. Knox replied to his knowledge there are not. Sylvia Samoan, Palo Alto Housing Corporation, said it is not possible to use the CDBO funds to pay the City. There are other funds that were received from the syndication of Webster Wood. It is possible those funds could be used. Those funds have basically been used to help Webster Wood if there are preblems and used to pay architects to help with the next proposal. However, the funds could be used. The in lieu funds coming from BMR developers could be used, but again, it would be paying back the City with its own funds. Vice Mayor Sher said this would be the acquisition of a rental unit which is the purpose of the rental RHAP program and has always been contemplated that those monies would be spent to acquire properties that clearly could not carry themselves on jist the rental. He saw this as being quite consistent as it becomes a housing unit which the Housing Corporation owns and is able to rent out forever after to families which cannot otherwise afford it. He said the City is being asked to make a payment from its general fund to the RHAP program and he feels the money should be taken out of the CDBB0 funds as in the past. Ms. Swan pointed out that in the Corporation's letter of July 3, it said they could only afford to pay $35,000 to acquire the unit because of the amount of rent the house can bring i n . So, the Housing Corporation would be paying $25,000, not $15,000. It's true that the RHAP proaram envisioned the Federal Funds could be used to acquire this housing from a private developer, not that the funds received from syndication of Webster Woods would be used to acquire waits, but Council could dint the Corporation to consider this if it so wished. Vice -Mayor Sher pointed out that if Council adopted Option 3, if would be donating the land itself Which has a fair market value of S117,500. These are out of pocket costs recently expended to meek a this un : t available to the Housing Corporation's stock. He did not understand the City was going to bear the cost out of its general fund. If a way CM be found to recover that and the City could come out even on its recent costs, it should be done. Dickey Zeta, PAW, said if the acquisition had first taken place and correction the housing costs paid for the mine, perhaps the RHAP funds could have see Pe. 132 been used. She thinks this .may be a technicality and the City should 8/25/80 double check to see if this can still be done. tiapthl i Knox responded bysaying he is pretty sure it cannot be done and that this fund is audited every year. 023 7/7/80 Councilmember Fletcher asked if there were landbanking funds available for this purpose. Naphtali Knox explained the block grant funds amounted to $365,000 and $135,000 in general funds available for landbanking purposes, but if used for this, it would be paying the City with its own funds. Councilmember Fletcher said she thought this might be a legitimate expenditure, and perhaps the City could use CIP funds. Bill Zaner said it is was all the same money. Capital Improvement funds come from the General Fund to begin with. What the City would be doing would be transferring money from ourselves to ourselves. Councilmember Fletcher asked "is there no merit in allocating funds which we have allocated to the program previously to specifically apply to this particular thing?" elk -or Henderson said that as he understood it, Vice -Mayor Sher wanted to know if there was some way the City could use its funds to pay the City for the land that is underlying the house. He said he knew of no other source of non -city funds which could be used to pay fur property owned by the City. After a review of the figures by Mayor Henderson, it was ascertained the City would be short $25,000. He asked if there would be any merit in a delayed payment to the City when the use is sold. Jean Diaz, Real Property Administrator, commented that as Council- me ea Renzel pointed out, the City would have the ability to reacquire the site in the form of a purchase/option. The difference could be restructured at that time to make up for the difference. Ms. Sean agreed that could be accomplished. She reminded the Council that if the house is sold at a market rate at a later date, the money would go for City programs anyway, and perhaps at that time it would be ;:cided the $25,000 could be used for better benefits. Whatever was decided, it would benefit the hour;ng ,program. Mayor Henderson asked who would eventually sell the house. Ms. man responded that this was not discussed by the PAHC, but her opinion was that staff and the Housing Corporation could work out some sort of contract arrangement, Mayor Henderson said he thought a clause stipulating this arrangement should be put into the PAHC contract. Coca i lmemaber Renze l said her feeling was the City should approve Option 3 with instructions to staff to look at ways to recapture out of pocket costs for the general fund with the remainder of the funds to benefit the housing acquisition program. Councilmember Levy mentioned the appraised market value of 5162,500 and he woneered how much the house would sell for if put on the open market. Jean Diaz responded that this was very difficult to determine but he believed, considering past history, it would be about 20 to 3I percent above the appraised va l ye Councilmember Levy asked Ms. Seman what the Palo Alto Housing Corporation' :would do with $140,000 from the sale of the house if it were available. Ms. Semen replied that thenrs move slowly.- She mentioned the Terman prOect and a complex the Housing Corporation now has in escrow. She aiSo mentioned S450,O00 is now in the RHAP programs. She said she saw no *mediate use for the $140,000. 024 7/7/80 When Councilmember Levy asked if the Housing Corporation's intention was to use the house now as a rental unit for a fair amount of time and then sell it if something else :ame up, Ms. Seman responded that havitg the house as a rental gives the PAHC some Flexibility. It does't mean it would use the house as an investment for more money in the future. The PAHC wants the house now to meet housing needs today. Councilmember Levy asked if it wouldn't have made more sense to buy a one bedroom and two bedroom unit for $185,000 that was available at the time the house was purchased rather than the house. Ms. Seeman said the advantage of the house is it has three bedrooms and the units had only one and two bedrooms. She pointed out 3 bedroom units are hard to acquire and that they are needed for large families When Councilmember Levy asked what a three bedroom house could be purchased for, Jean Diaz responded that the price of this house was $162,500 and the price was pretty average. He thought there was nothing on the market for less than $150,000. Councilmember Levy said he felt the City could sell the house for $2009000, replace its out of pocket expenses, and use the remainder to reinvest in another three bedroom house or a duplex or tri-plea. The money could be given to the PAHC to use for housing with no strings attached. Vice -Mayor Sher asked if staff wished to correct the figures in Option 3 to correspond with PAHC figures --from $45,000 for the pdrehase by the PAHC to $i5,000, with the City subsidizing $127,500 instead of $11i,500I !t was agreed this change would be made. Vice -Mayor Sher also asked how much more work had to be done on the house. Bob Brown, Planner, said some landscaping and irrigation, estimated at $5,000, still needed to be done. Mr. Brown said if the PAHC had to do this, it would cost than, considerably more because a major part of this would involve labor. AMENDMENT TO MOTION; Moved by Councilmember Reuel, seconded by Fletcher, that the motion include the provision that the city recapture oat -of -pocket costs. MOTION AND AMENDMENT PASSED 6-1, with Levy voting "no," Brenner, Witherspoon absent. APPLICATION FOR STATE GRANT - fl . ►1D TO UNITE THE li1STOR!C City Manager Bill Liner reported the City was Approaching a dead 1 i ne for application to the State for Grant -in -Aid funds for the Hict.or1c Building Inventory program. The City is asking for $4500 in order complete the Historic Building Inventory program which was begun some time ego. MOTION: It was wed by Councilor Renzel, seconded by Flag` r, that the City approve the Resolution approving the application for the grant-in-aid funds. RESOLUTION 5817 entitled "RESOLUTI0N OF THE AIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO APPROVING THE APPL I CAT ION AND THE ACT WeREEMENT FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION GRANT-IN-AID FUNDS FOR THE COMPLETION OF HISTORIC INVENTORY NOTION PASSED: Unanimously„ Brenner, Witherspoon absent. PLANNING COMMISSION I NTERY I EWS Mayor Henderson reported that a date and procedure for interviewing Planning Commission applicants needed to be established. O25 7/7/CO MOTION: It was moved by Ccuncilmember Renzel, seconded by Fletcher, that the interview date be set for Tuesday, July 15, and all candidates, except those interviewed within the last six months, be interviewed. MOTION PASSED: 6-1, Fazzino voting "no," Brenner, Witherspoon absent. PARKING GARAGE (CMR:332:O) Counci l ,er Eyerly referred to the staff report of July 3 dealing with Civic Center Garage Parking. He said the report was prepared following Council's meeting of June 9 where they discussed the downtown parking plan. He said the report does not adequately address the concerns expressed at the meeting. He thinks the City really has to lead the way if ft is going to get the downtown area to feel cooperative and not feel abused. He said the extra 90 spaces the report mentions the City is going to continue leasing from the district need to be alleviated. Suggestions were made that there should be some type of arrangement made for the extra parking needed in the baylands service area. Some of the space there should be reorganized for parking and the use of a shuttle bus should be looked at. City Manager 8;11 Zaner responded that staff did understand Council's concerns and that this report was provided only as an update and not intended to cover the broader aspects which still need to be worked out. He reported that staff is working on a number of ways it feels might be presented to Council where the City employees can show some leadership in the downtown parking problem. ORAL COMNNICATIONS None ADJOUPt NT Moved by Renzel, seconded by Sher, that the meeting adjourn. Motion passed on s unanimous vote, Brenner and Witherspoon absent. Meet i ng adjourned at 11:45 p.m. APPROVE: