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Regular Meeting
January 7, 1.980
ITEM
Minutes of November 19, 1979
Oral Communications
1, John F. Walker, 1937 Circle
'2. R.W. Byxbee, 27 Dan Court
3. Jim Gregg, 2513 Anna
4. Terri Owen, 3081 Emerson
Consent Calefdar - Action Items
Pedestrian/Bicycle Undercrossing Maintenance --Award of
Contract
Driscoll Court --Final Subdivision Map
52C Maybe l Avenue --Final Subdivision Map
Fence Improvements - Byxbee Park - Palo Alto Flood
Basin - Application for Site and Design Review by City
of Palo Alto
3400 Millview Avenue - Application for Site and Design
Review by Clark, Stroaquist and Sandstrom
Resolution of Appreciation to Douglas Winslow
Elimination of Merged Lot Provision in Section 18.88.050(c)
of Zoning Ordinance, and Section 21.04.040 of the Subdivision
Ordinance
Air Rights Developments over Parking Lots
Cable Television
Weed Abatement Programs
Bicycle Mileage Reimbursement Policy
Palo Alto Participation in California Solar Utility Development
Authority (CSU€iA )
Oral Communications
Adjournment to Executive Session re Personnel and Litigation
Final Adjournment
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Regular Meeting
January 7, 1980
The City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on this date in the Councilchamber
at 250 Hamilton Avenue, at 7:42 p.m., Mayor Henderson presiding.
PRESEdT: Brenner, Eyeriy, Fazzina, Fletcher, Henderson, Levy,
Renzel, Sher, Witherspoon (arrived 8:40 p.m.)
ABSENT: None
MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 19i 1979
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Councilmember Renzel asked that on page* 293, the second sentence in the
first paragraph read instead, "Insofar as the separate residence/ commercial
owners' association was concerned, she was curious how problems related
to parking and the like would be worked out--"
Councilmember Renzel asked that on page 295 the following sentence be
added to the tenth paragraph: "Before the final map she would like the
same information regarding the owners' association and the commercial
division, as requested in the previous agenda item."
Councilmember Witherspoon requested, by note, that on page 292 the
following replace the present eighth paragraph: "Councilmember Witherspoon
asked if the stores planned to be a part of the development would have a
separate owners' association.
Councilmember Fazzlno asked that on page 286 the first sentence of the
last paragraph read instead: 'Councilmember Fazzina said that because
of physical and emotional trauma associated with the problem of housing
for battered women it aright be even more than necessary than low- to
moderate -income housing in Palo Alto. He thought the proposal clearly
met the HUD criteria for shelter.
MOTION: Councilmember Fazzino moved, seconded by Fletcher, that Council
approve the minutes of November 19, 1979, as corrected. The motion
passed on a unanimous voice vote., Councilmember Witherspoon absent.
Mayor Henderson announced that an executive session re personnel would
be held at the conclusion of the regular meeting.
ORAL CtI UN I CATI ONtS
1. John F. Walker, 1937 Greenwood Circle, Cupertino, esked what
schedule of dredging would be operant for the Palo Alto Yacht
Harbor --he had received no answer to his inquiry of some weeks back
on that matter.
He asked that the City Manager contact him at 408/987-3542.
2. R. W. Byxbee, 27 Dan Court, lauded the meeting concerning
housing that Council had held with Stanford December 17, 1979; he
said that Council could mitigate the housing problem by .using City -
owned open space in the lower foothills on the Arastra property.
He said the ITT property in the Baylands could also be used for
housing —he thought that would be "...a higher and better use" of
that land and also of some land in the flood control basin. He held
that the developments he proposed would be peripheral to the City
and would not affect neighborhoods now established in the City's
interior. Moving to another topic,: he praised Councilmember Levy's
suggestion that a bond be issued - for improve ent of the City's
recreational program; he thought higher gas prices would lead to
sore use by residents of local recreation facilities.
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3. Jim Gregg, 2513 Alma, asked how secure from theft the bicycle
parking facility was on Level A of the City Hall.
Councilmember Fletcher said that perhaps more secure parking could
be provided.
4. Terri Owen, 3081 Emerson, spoke of having been interviewed by
KPIX before Proposition H failed at the polls, because she was felt
to be a typical renter; one week later, they interviewed her again
when her rent had been raised $85 a month, a total of $150 a month
increases since passage of Proposition 13. She thought that as a
single parent she was "a typical renter" in Palo Alto, and she had
been victimized by an uncontrolled "landlords' market." She
feared that the proposed rental mediation board would not work; she
said evasion of the rental cost issue by the majority of members of
the Council was "virtually criminal." She noted that themanagement's
letter implied that she could afford to live not either in "...a
slum in San Jose" or in Palo Alto. She appealed for a workable
solution to the renters' crisis.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Councilmember Eyerly asked that the matter concerning weed abatement be
removed from the Consent Calendar.
Councilmember Renzel requested that oft the matter concerning a fence for Corrected
the Palo Alto Flood Basin the floodgate at the animal shelter should be See Pg. 412
left open. 2/4/80
The following matters remained on the Consent Calendar:
Referral Items
none
Action Items
PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE UNDERCROSSING
-UMW CORMACT (CNR:525:9)
Staff reds that Council authorize the Mayor to etecute a contract
with Dimond & Penso*ti in the amount of $27,597 for the refinishing of
four pedestrian/bicycle undercrossings.
CONTRACT —Dimond and Pensotti, nc.
DRISCOLL COURT —FINAL SUBDIVISION PAP (t 1:530:9)
Staff recommends that Council approve the final map and street name for
Driscoll Court,
S20 MAYBELL AVENUE --FIB SU DIVISI0fl MAP (C14R:51b:9)
Staff reco rds that Council approve the final . condominium subdivision
map for 520 Maybell Avenue, and name the new cul-de-sac ' I nterdal a Way."
FENCE IMPROVEMENTS - BYXBEE PARK
DESIGN REVIEW
The Planning Commission uru piimously recommends approval l'f the application
_ of the City of Palo Alto for Site and Design review for a fence in the
Palo Alto Flood Basin (Bye Park).
Staff recommends that Council approve the site and design review as
recommended by the Planning Commission and Architectural Review. Board,
and adopt both a park improvement ordinance for construction of the
split rail fence to limit vehicular access into the flood basin and a
budget amendment ordinance which allocates $14,000 to Parks and Open
Space Management Division's operating budget.
ORD1V ICE 3176 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO APPROVING AND
ADOPTING A PLAN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF
FENCE IMPROVEMENTS IN BYXBEE PARK."
ORDINANCE 3177 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING
THE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1979-80 TO PROVIDE
FUNDS FOR FENCING AT THE PALO ALTO FLOOD BASIN."
3400 HILLVIEE AVENUE
AP)1ICATL €OR SITE AND DESIGN REVIEW
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The Planning Commission unanimously recommends approval of the application
of Clark, Strt quist and Sandstrom for Site and Design Review for property
located at 3400 Hillview Avenue.
Staff recommends that Council approve the site and design application as
unanimously recommended by the Planning Commission and Architectural
Review Board.
MOTION: Councilmember Renzel moved, seconded by Fazz.ino, that Council
approve the ordinances, authorize the contract,.and adopt the resolution
in the Consent Calendar. The motion passed on a unanimous voice vote,
£ouncilmber Witherspoon absent.
RESOLUTION OF APPCCIA i i0N
Mayor Henderson read the resolution commending Douglas Winslow's diligence
and unselfish service to the Human Relations Commission from 1977 to
1979. Mr. Winslow expressed his thanks, and affirmed that he had been.
true to his convictions during his tenure on the Commission.
MOTION: Councilmember Renzel introduced the following resolution and,
seconded by Sher. moved its adoption by Council:
RESOLUTION 5758 entitled "RESOLUTION OF. THE
Ct ML OF THE CITY OF PA/ Alm c NDin,__
DOUGLAS WINSLOW FOR _+OtSTANDi$G AND CONSCIENTIOUS
SERVICE AS A HEWN OF THE HUMAN RELATIONS Ci ISSION."
Courecilmemaber Renzel added her personal thanks for Douglas Winslow's
contributions to the Haman Relations Commission.
MOTION PASSED: The motion passed on a unanimous vote, C€uncilrmember
Witherspoon absent.
ELIMINATION OF MERGED LOT PROVISION
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Mayor Henderson said that the Planning Commission, by a vote of b-1,
reamerrds that all lots which were merged by the 1977 amendment of the
subdivision map act, prior to the adoption of Chapters 2,_3, and 4,
statutes of 1977. are hereby deemed unmerged.
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Naphtali Knox, Director of Planning and Community Environment, said that
the matter was quite complicated --the recommendation was that a law
formerly adopted be rescinded.
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Councilmember Renzel observed that there had been a stipulation that
lots lass than 10 percent of the requirements for substandard lots not
be merged; small substandard lots would not be merged, but large substandard
lots would be merged. Was her understanding correct?
George Zimmerman, Senior Planner, said that her statement was true; that
stipulation reduced the number of lots subject to merger. Property
owners had been notified, a hearing had been held, and a conclusion had
been reached that setback and daylight plane regulations offered sufficient
protection from improper developments proposed for substandard lots.
Councilmember Renzel referred to three lots on Middlefield that had been
gilt upon with what she thought were unhappy results; she was concerned
about how the variance granting procedure could permit poor results.
Pir. Knox said that the three lots, 25 feet wide, between Forest and
Hamilton, had the required 5 -foot sideyard.
Responding to a question by Councflmember Renzel on unusual -shaped lots,
Mr. Zimmerman said that only one L-shaped lot was questionable. He said
that about 40 substandard lots would be buildable, that is to say, the
lots were now vacant. If a house was already on the property, perhaps
straddling the property line, the lots would be considered already
merged.
MOTION Councilmerber Eyerly introduced the following ordinance, and,
seconded by Fletcher, moved its adoption by Council for first reading:
OROIHAHCE OF THE COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF PALO ALTO AMENDING SECTION 18.88.050(c)
AND 21.04.040 OF THE PALO ALTO MUNICIPAL CODE
The motion passed on the following vote:
AYES: Brenner, Eyerly, Fazzino, Fletcher, Henderson, Levy, Sher
NOES: Renzel
ABSENT: Witherspoon
Councilmember Renzel said she voted 'no* because she thought the earlier
action about lots less than 10 percent of the reqoirements for substandard
lots not being merged had been adequate to allow lots that almost qualified
to be retained under *buildable loss.*
AIR RIGHTS DEVELMENTS_
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The Policy and Procedures Committee recommends to Council re Air. Rights,
by unanimous vote, 1 absent, the guidelines proposed by staff in the
January 30, 1975 report, with modifications made by the Committee at the
November 6, 1979, meeting.
MOTION: Counci lamer Brenner, on behalf of the Policy and Procedures
Committee, moved the Commi ttee recommendations as follows: a) that the
City Attorney be directed to research the status, fees, air rights and
revenues; b) that the subject of air rights be reta i rued in the Committee,
and c) that staff be directed to explore the potential valve of housing
on industrial parking lots together with representatives of industrial
and the Santa Clara County Manufacturing Group in a joint meeting with
the Policy and Procedures Copmi ttee .
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Councilmember Brenner pointed out that predetermination of the density
of the option, agreement had not been included in the Committee's recommendations
and the agenda should be so amended.
Mayor Henderson pointed out that Councilmember Fazzino had been unable
to attend the Committee meeting at which the recommendations had been
drawn up; Councilmember Witherspoon had chaired the meeting.
Vice Mayor Sher said he supported the recommendations. He particularly
liked the recommendation to explore the possibility of housing over
industrial parking lots; he had long wished that ways would be found to
utilize all that space given over to the exclusive use of the automobile.
He said he thought Council was indebted to Councilmember Brenner for
pursuing the idea and to the Committee for recommending the idea of
building over parking lots financed by the City's assessment district.
Councilmember Fazzino said the issue was to be explored at a luncheon
meeting with the Santa Clara County Manufacturer's Group on February 5.
A number of representatives from Palo Alto industry would be invited to
attend. He said he thought that it would be fair to have competitive
bidding for the air rights; that would require that there be identified
sites. Was staff identifying such lots?
Mr. Knox said that at present his department did not have staff or time
to determine which sites would be appropriate for such development and
also laws on the subject were still being formed —one matter to be
determined was the proposed density. He thought that when the time was
right developers would come forward. He favored the laissez
faire approach at present.
Jean Diaz, Real Property Administrator, said it was possible to follow
up on the market approach and let developers come forward; also, developers
could draw up ideas and then the City could put appropriate air rights
for parking lots out to bid.
Mayor Henderson asked how much work had to be done if a developer cane
in with a specific plan for a specific parking list.
Mr. Diaz said that the City had to have some certainty that any given
parking lot was suitable for an air rights project. A signifiezet
amount of staff time was needed to inventory the lots and make those
kinds of assessments. Time was needed to package a parcel for a competitive
bid process.
Councilmember Fazzino said that it did not seem quite right that a
developer could draw up a bid on a site, then have the City open it up
for competitive bidding. He said one of the criteria was that the site
snout o be visually compatible with the surrounding area. He found the
tern "compatibility" somewhat open ended. If the definition that the
air over the parcel was a part of the land under it the project should
conform as much as possible to the zoning in the area --tradeoffs could
be allowed through the variance procedure. He wanted_ recognition of the
actual zoning requirements* rather than the less specific "compatibility."
Corrected Councilmember Renzel said the Committee had discussed those criteria and
See Pg.412 the zoning requirements would not be supersede*. She continued. Shy:
2/4/80 said that the Committee had thought it best to have a prototype project
before going to competitive bidding.
Councilmember Fazzino said that it would have to be made clear that
zoning law still applied.
Pat Cullen, 409 Melville, praised the City Attorney's report on air
rights. She noted that the report clarified that any change of public
use was toward public benefit also. She thought that should be emphasized*
and the criteria for public benefit should be exam ned .
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Mayor Henderson raised the question of whether or not an increase in the
City's housing stock would be considered a public benefit.
Bill Byxbee, chairman of the Traffic and Parking Committee of Downtown
Palo Alto, Incorporated, noted that his committee was responding to
City dictum that from 1500 to 2500 offstreet parking spaces be provided,
perhaps 1500 with the improved public transportation and higher gas
prices. He hoped that the public parking requirements were "compatible"
with the push toward public housing. He hoped that his committee could
meet with appropriate people at City Hall for round table discussion
on those interests.
Council rber Brenner ascertained that Mr. Byxbee's committee had made
headway, perhaps having attained about half of the needed parking spaces
thus far.
Walter Sedriks, 325 Waverley, said he liked the idea of the air rights
building, but he thought it would increase congestion where it was
already overcrowded. He hypothesized numbers of car trips and the like
resulting from the addition of numbers of units, noting that there were
soon hazards concerned with additions to housing just as there were with
jobs. He reviewed the history of the Downtown Perk north, need for
which had been based on population, and he noted some ironies concerned
with Downtown North population compared with population elsewhere in
Palo Alto, and disproportionate City services. He thought that North
Palo Alto served "...as a dumping ground for things to which the rest of
Palo Alto might object.°
Counci lrnember Witherspoon arrived at 8:40 p.m.
Robert Moss, 4010 0rme, said he supported the idea of air rights in
general and specifically over industrial parking lots; he thought it
would be wise to lease, not sell, the air rights, and in that way the
City could increase the rents from time to time thus recapturing some
of the value of the land as it appreciated in value.
Council tuber Brenner noted that the subject lots should first serve
their r:'1mary purpose, that of providing parking. Parking could be
increased were underground parking constructed. Parking needs were not
yet satisfied, anti, not all the lots were capable of supporting an underground
structure. She thought that zoning should be designated by the area
surrounding the proposed site, and that for public benefit to be served
the site should provide low to moderate -income housing. She did not
favor putting the air rights projects out for bid --"...it's not a money -
raising gimmick. It's a hope to create some attractive housing and at
the saw time not unduly iaapatt the surrounding area."
Councilmember Levy said that ` the problem was complex thought _the
City should set some parameters and then- advertise for bids. He asked
about present zoning and time for rezoning.
Mr. box replied that the parking lot under discussion was now zoned P -f
( Public facility) and would be zoned P -C (planned cozy ni ty) . Zoning
would occur when densities were determined.
Councilmember Levy said be did not think the developer should determine
how the air righte were pet to use --tit would pest be determined by the
City, he thought, using its criteria' -that is, the City should pct, not
react. He thought that after the City set the parameters the sites
to be developed in the future, after Parking Lot i?, should be
opened. to competitive bid, He _noted that an independent appraisal of
air rights could not be made until the City had set see parameters.
Mayor Henderson said he thought that: if the Kinney-Arutuniaf project
uent forward some guidelines as to how air rights should be developed
most advantageously could be eked out.
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Councilmember Renzel said that bid criteria could possibly involve
design as well as money concerns --the total benefit to the City. She
thought such flexibility would encourage people to participate. Criteria
for a money bid alone were too complex. -
AMENDMENT: Councilmember Renzel moved, seconded by Sher, that an eighth
criterion be added to those listed by the Policy and Procedures Committee
to read: "Air rights projects over public parking lots should he
evaluated on the basis of public benefits provided. The word "significant"
is to be added to the third criterion.
Vice Mayor Sher agreed that City -owned property should be open to competitive
bidding —he noted that Kinney-Arutunian owned one of the lots adjacent
to the City -owned parking lot, making Parking Lot Q somewhat special.
!4e did not know where the initiative was to come from, since staff was
too busy to develop criteria for other lots.
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Councilmember Brenner referred to Program Eleven in the Comprehensive
Plan calling for facilitation toward construction of residential units
over public and private parking lots, and so Council and staff had
initiated the air rights matter. A developer did not get carte blanche,
she said, and each project would come to Council. She thought problems
concerning density should be referred to the Planning Commission first,
though she did not want to do so at this time.
City Attorney Abrams clarified footnote 2 on page 5 of the City Attorney's
January 2, 1980 report, saying that it should read: "To the extent to
which the funds are placed in the general fund for appropriation, the
Gann Initiative limitation may apply. . . ." He said that at present
the Gann Initiative was not clear on how proceeds from sale of city
properties were to be characterized. If they were characterized as
taxes they would be within the limitation of the City of Palo Alto; if
they were not so characterized, they would be outside'that appropriations
limitation. He said the City's position would be that since the lard
over which the air rights were to be granted had not been paid for by
taxes but by special assessments the proceeds would not be tax related.
He noted that though he had referred on page 5 to "public interest" that
was not synonymous with "public benefit." He noted that discussion that
evening by Council indicated that sale of the air rights might be in the
public interest, and he emphasized that the use of those air rights was
planned, at the present, to go for public benefit.
AMENDMENT PASSED: The amendment passed on a unanimous vote.
Ed Wisc yer, 333 Kipling, said parking, services and neighborhoods
were utters to consider in relation to geantine eir.-rlgh;te. He `bought
the human needs created by additional residents would outstrip those: _,_.
needs being served. He thought Downtown North residents would have some
resentment about having their area's density being increase. He thought
neighborhood feeling should be fostered, and not dispersed with increased
population.
Councilmember Levy said he thought it was unfortunate that Council ?ad
eliminated the small open space that was in Downtown North. He observed
that the goal of additional housing as a primary use for air rights had
not been sped fi ca l l y stated.
AMENDMENT: Councilmember Levy moved, seconded by Renee!, that as criterion
9 the following be added: "Air rights should be developed primarily for
housing, parking and non-commercial recreational uses."
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Councilmember Witherspoon supported the portion of the amendment that
spoke to housing; she did not support the others. She noted that a
private owner, of industrial, for example, could develop his air rights
as he chose, according to what zoning permitted. She thought the Comprehensive
Plan was quite clear that housing was intended under Program Eleven.
She preferred to have commercial with residential in downtown Palo Alto.
Councilmember Eyerly said he thought some lots downtown were better
suited for commercial, depending on how much underground parking could
be structured. He thought commercial should not be precluded.
Councilmember Renzel stressed that the Council was speaking only to
public parking lots; private owners could develop commercially or with a
mix. She thought housing only was suitable for publicly owned parking
lots. Adding commercial would be counter to a City goal, she said,
which was to alleviate the jobs/housing imbalance.
Vice Mayor Sher said he could support the motion though it was perhaps
too restrictive for this first project. It seemed logical in the proposed
site to have commercial at the ground level, and that might make the
project more viable, and could lead to providing more below -market -rate
housing. He thought the Comprehensive Plan did not restrict to housing
only; he thought the Plan encouraged mixed uses on the same parcel. He
did not want to rule out commercial if it would lead to having a better
project.
Councilmember Fletcher said provision of underground parking was very
expensive --if commercial were ruled out that might raise the cost of the
housing that was planned. She did think the primary use of air rights
should be for housing, but she did nct want to rule out others.
Mayor Henderson said he foresaw a proposal being made for mostly residential
with a shall aunt of commercial to permit some below -market housing.
He was not willing to eliminate that possibility. The primary goal was
to increase housing in Palo Alto, however.
Councilmember Brenner said she thought underground parking, though
expensive, could prove in time to be a 'bargain.' She said she favored
the Comprehensive Plan program, and she read, 'Facilitate development of
residential units on air rights over public and private parkin lots in
commercial and industrial zones." She said that emphasized provision of
residential units as the prime reason for even discussing air rights
leases, but it does not preclude consideration of other things. She
thought the amendment before Council was unnecessary.
Councilmember Levy said he would be willing to change the wording _to
rights should be developed primarily for housing. .
Councilmember Renzel suggested adding the words, "...in conformance with
the Comprehensive Plan fps i ng Program Eleven.'
Councilmember ber Levy agreed
Councilor Renzel added that she noted in criterion 3 that the price
of the rights depended on the public benefit to be provided.
AMEN PASSED: The amendment that criterion 9 read: "Air rights
should be developed primarily for using, parking And non-commercial
recreational uses in conformance witft Comprehensive Plan Housing Program
Eleven," pessed on a unanimous vote.
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ANT: Councilmember Levy moved, seconded by fazzino, that the
parenthetical statement in criterion 1, now reeding "(in same cases the
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City should seek competitive bids)" be changed to read, "(Except in
unusual circumstances, the City should seek competitive bids.)" The
amendment passed on the following vote:
AYES: Brenner, Eyerly, Fazzino, Henderson, Levy, Renzel, Sher, Witherspoon
NOES: Fletcher
MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED PASSED: The main motion, that Council approve
the following recommendations by the Policy and Procedures Committee: a)
that the City Attorney be directed to research the status, fees, air
rights and revenues; b) that the subject of air rights be retained in
Committee, and c) that staff be directed to explore the potential value
of housing on industrial parking lots together with representatives of
industrial and the Santa Clara County Manufacturing Group in a joint
meeting with the Policy and Procedures Committee, as amended, passed on
a unanimous vote.
RECESS: Council recessed from 9:30 la 9:42 p.m.
Mayor Henderson reminded Councilmembers that an executive session en
personnel and litigation was to be held following the main meeting.
CABLE TELEVISION (CMR:527:9, 465:9)
MOTION: Councilmerber Witherspoon moved recommendation, made by a
unanimous vote, 1 absent, of the Policy and Procedures Committee ttee regarding
cable television as follows: that an informal survey be taken, perhaps
through the utility mailer, with an easy -answer form that can come back
with the City utility bill, and if the response shows interest that the
Council go ahead and hire a consultant to provide cost data and do a
more detailed and accurate market sampling as outlined in the consultant's
series of steps in the November 1, 1979, staff report.
Councilmember Witherspoon added that the January 3, 1980, staff report
by Charles McNeely gave much additional information on the subject.
Staff pointed out that Council could learn more if it contracted for a
professional survey; that would cos¢ about WOO.
Charles McNeely, Assistant to City Manager, introduced Howard Gan, a
representative from the Cable Television Information Center. Mr. Gan
was consulting at present with Menlo Park, East Palo Alto, and County of
San Mateo. Mr. Gan would be availaS a for Council's questions.
Councilaember Renzel noted that at the November 6, 1979 meeting, the
Policy and Procedures Committee did not have the January 3, 19110 report,
and since that report contained so mach more information she tight it
might be appropriate for the matter to return to Committee; that would
save Council a lengthy debate.
Council nber Fazzino said that he thought he had enough information to
make a decision as to whether or not to adopt the staff recommendation
and proceed with some kind of market analysis.
Councilmember Renzel said that the new information would have been
valuable at the Committee meeting, when representatives from various
companies were present.
Vice Mayor Sher said he would like to know what the Urban Institute
Cable Television Information Center wasp and also about the Pacific
Consulting Group.
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Howard Gan said Cable Television Information Center (CTIC) is a private,
non-profit organization set up in 1972 to help cities in the franchising
process for cable television, along with serving as an objective source
of information for them. CTIC had been formed as part of the Urban
Institute which was a research organization in Washington; it was funded
by the Ford Foundation and the John and Mary Markel Foundation for eight
years; now the Institute was self-supporting from consulting fees received
from cities and counties.
Councilmember Brenner asked where all the information in the staff
report had been drawn.
Mr. McNeely said the information had been taken from a survey of California
cities, taken from a stet book compiled by the Cable TV industry. Councilmember
Levy had requested the information.
Councilmember Brenner observed that costs had been deregulated in the
industry; she asked how current the figures in the report were.
Mr. McNeely replied that they were 1978 figures.
Councilmember Brenner noted that the firm seemed to act as a consultant
while selling to cities.
Mr. Gan replied that CTIC, while supported by the foundations, had given
its services to cities; the foundations had realized that CTIC could
sell its services.
Councilmember Eyerly asked about the quality of reception on cable TV.
Mr. Gan replied that in the past many had subscribed to cable to improve
reception on their sets; now television reception had improved generally,
and people subscribed for better entertainment offerings.
Councilmember Witherspoon asked if there was advertising on cable TV.
Mr. Gan replied that with Home Box Office there were no commercials but
when about 30 percent of homes subscribed nationally, it would perhaps
become a medium for national advertising. One sports network on cable
TV, backed by Getty Oil Corporation, did have commercials. He thought
there would always be some networks that did not have advertising, and
the pay for that service would be according to that.
Councilmember Renzel said that the sample survey for prospective cable
TV subscribers included in Councilmembers' packets had the kind of
questions she had thought'the City might ask of prospective subscribers
in Palo. Alto. ad _thosa__qu ctlnns been erM .r visas as:aia t lys
Fir. Gan replied that the questionnai ne . had been drawn up by the New York
State Cable CCission, for whom one of CTIC's staff members formerly
worked. CTIC itself did not do surveys of that kind, he said; they did
not find it necessary. The survey questionnaire had been professionally
designed. It was designed to determine whether or not there was interest
in Cable TV, and he said that was a redundant question --the interest was
always there because people ranted new and improved entertainments
offered on TV and not obtainable on conventional existing channels. He
said he thought money spent on a surrey would be best spent to determine
what kinds of programming the community wanted, rather that if the
community wanted it- "I can assure you the answer will be yes'."
Mayor Henderson observed that Tom Passel l , chaff ran of the former Citizens
Advisory Committee on Cable TV was present; he i nv i toad hire to add comments
if .he saw fit.
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Peter Webb, 2326 Columbia Street, Palo Alto, said he represented the
Pacific Consulting Group, a private consulting group specializing in
public sector work, based in Menlo Park. His firm was experienced in
surveys in general and survey conduct and analysis in particular. His
firm supported staff's recommendation, that instead of a utilities
department mailer survey a market analysis should be conducted by an
independent consultant to determine precise levels of penetration for
alternative combinations of services and prices. Palo Alto would then
hold a public hearing to design the survey. The issue of ownership
should be treated together with the question of marketing; citizen input
should be sought. Mr. Webb said that in surveys such as the one proposed
to be taken through a utilities mailer, only about 5 or 10 percent
response could be expected. He said it was likely that bias would
result from whatever those 5 or 10 percent responses might be, and the
interest of the general population was not represented. Mr. Webb said
his firm proposed a scientifically•5ased telephone survey contacting
about 500 respondents --though the sample was numerically smaller than
possible from the proposed utilities mailer, the results were more valid.
Councilmember Eyerly wondered why Mr. Webb's firm did not recommend a
firm that wanted to provide cable TY to the City conduct the survey.
Mr. Webb said he thought such a survey might not be objective nor would
it explore the full range of services. Mr. Webb added that Palo Alto
had wanted to explore the differing merits of a municipally owned versus
a franchised system. .
Councilrnember Eyerly said he himself was not interested in a municipally
owned system --he was not convinced that the City should pay for the
study.
David Greene, 3144 David Avenue, said he had attended that evening's
Council meeting because he was concerned about tt2 way in which questions
might be asked in a survey and responses were received from those questions.
He and his colleagues at his workplace, Stanford Research Institute
(SRI) had discussed what kinds of inferences could result relating to
both entertainment and also a telecommunications system, with two-way
function, fur being in touch with police, fire, and the like. He wanted
to raise the question about whether or not there would be a capacity for
a different level of system in cable TV.
Tom Passel), 3825 Louis, said the Palo Alto Citizens Advisory Committee
had met about 6 years back holding about 70 meetings over a three-year
period, on the subject of cable TV. He noted that the consensus of the
City had been that it did not want just better reception, but instead
wanted a set of services not now available: the City wanted two-way
capability, if it WAS to have cable TV. He noted that each cable had
from 30-60 channels; existing televisiongave 15 or so channels_ He
tight other channels available on cable TV could be used for many
purposes other than for programs going to mass audiences. That meant
that if a few hundred people wanted to see that evening's Council meeting
they Could receive it over their TV sets, There could be other services
as well. His committee would have liked to see it become a reality, and
he hoped it would "...begin to move." He thought the conduit for the
cable should be large enough to be capable o? expansion. He thought
that the public might view cable TV capabilities swat as a second
telephoner he did not know how any company could lose money by supplying
the City.
Councilmember Renzel said she was quite impressed with the survey CTIC
had provided. She thought that kind of questionnaire, ma i, e4`, with
utility bills, would provide information that would be usefei to Council
as it decided whether or not to go any further with cable U. She would
support the Policy and Procedures Committee recommendation.
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Councilnember Brenrer said she supported the Committee recommendation
also. She said she had not heard of people who wanted cable TV, and she
thought that now that the price of it had been deregulated the price
could be higher than the estimate of $10 a month. Though it was to be a
private franchise she thought the Council would be criticised if it were
too high. She thought the first page of the sample survey in the packet
would give Council the information it wanted by way of a utilities
mailer. She thought the question relating to estimated cost per month,
ranging froe about $1S to $30, would also give useful information.
AMENDMENT: Councilmember Brenner moved, seconded by Renee!, that Council
reject the questionnaire drawn up by staff and instead substitute the
first page of the sample questionnaire and the tine concerning probable
costs be used as a utilities mailer questionnaire.
Mayor Henderson said he thought the total questionnaire should be sent
out.
Councilraewber Brenner ascertained that Councilmeatber Renzel, the second
of her amendment was agreeable to sending the full questionnaire, and
she changed her amendment accordingly.
William Laver, City Manager, said he could offer another approach; his.
two to Council had given some concerns, one of them being the survey.
°I think we know what the answer to the survey is going to bee -anyone
who receives a simple mailer...is going to fill it out and say 'yes, 1
want cable TV' and those persons who don't want it will not fill out the
survey and simply wont return it." He thought that if Council was
concerned about costs of a survey his office could contact a number of
cable TV companies in this area and see if, on a non -committed basis,
any of them mould be willing to fund a market analysis with its content
and quality to be controlled by Council. He said he was concerned about
cable TV because results in other cities did not provide a good record;
cable TV companies offered a range of attractive services, then, when
the city had signed, the company did not deliver the package it had
sold. He emphasized that cable TV was not a utility; it had to be sold.
Companies, until they learned whether or not their venture in a city
would prove profitable, that is, enough subscribers had been sold, did
not provide the full range of services; delay of full services could
extend for *any years.
Councilor fazzino said he had been interested in cable TV because he
thought increased educational opportunities and improved entertainments
would be attractive to Palo Rltans. Citizens had expressed interest in
cable TV also. He thought there might bee tendency to become elitist
in discussing TV, and he thought there was a _real interest _in_- sporting
eve -fits anti current ov es . e also thought opportunies to televise
local events -would -he attractive to many. He praised Mr. Passell's
committee. and noted that sore information on cable TV was available
now; he thought the C'ou c : l wed precise information. He did not
favor the proposed utilities mailer survey at all --he feared a poor
survey would give incorrect answers. Fie thought a thoughtful and expert
survey would more than pay for its costs. He would oppose the amendment.
He did not think was too much to pay for a study in view of the
possible ensuing financial investment.
Councilamemmmber Fletcher said she thought it would be a good idea to have
a public hearing on the matter, spread some information on the subject,
then take a marketing survey. She thought Mr. Zaner's suggestion was
worthwhile; the City had nothing to lose by following it.
mr. Gaga said he did not know what information was to be gathered through
a survey. He said he thought Council should educate its members and the.
public as to the technology. People did not know what was available
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yet. Conciousnesses had to be raised, information on technology had to
be spread, issues such as municipal ownership should also be discussed.
He thought Council might be thinking about settling such policies as
whether or not the City should provide more educational channels, or
should have a channel for police and fire personnel training, or home
security systems. He did not think the public was equipped to answer
those kinds of questions.
Councilmember Levy asked Mr. Gan what steps Council should take.
Mr. Gan said he could say what procedure his firm had found successful
and what other cities had done--i.e., Minneapolis, St. Louis, Cincinnati,
Gallas. His firm, in working with those cities, had set up a series of
educational meetings on such questions as what public policy issues
might be raised along with technology available and then questions such
as who should receive service? should there be rate regulation? were
considered. With that sense, an approach was developed as to what a
city such as Palo Alto might want in a telecommunications system. A
minimum base of services would be draw tip, and using that base, proposals
from cable TV suppliers would be sought. The request for proposals
might read something like the following: "The City of Palo Alto is
particularly interested in educational access programming, local origination
programming produced by the comity for local purposes, in health
services, in social services to the elderly. . ." and the like.
Mr. Gan continued. He said the companies were very competitive; they
would be in tune with the City's wishes and needs, and "...they would
just love to get their hands on the Palo Alto franchise...and it will be
done in a cost effective way." An evaluation process would be set in
motion to then compare proposals submitted by the applicants. The
process might take from six to nine months; it was a thorough process
and that was fitting since a monopoly franchise was being granted. Such
a system should serve not just commercial interest --ft should serve
public interest as well.
Councilmember levy asked 1r. Gan what his best guess was for figures on
possible gross for Palo Alto's 2:,000 homes, calculating monthly service
costs and pay TV, then what the profits would be before tax.
Mr. Gan said he could not calculate that in his head; he thought there
might be a 50-x5 percent penetration (about 12,000 subscribers), with
from about 70 percent of these cable subscribers to be about $9.00
monthly. He added that companies were projecting higher percentage of
penetration that he had estimated.
Councilmember Levy calculated that a potential of about i2 million gross
annually existed. TM r.ity would get about 3 percent of that _as -a _
franchise fee. He asked if the cable TV company might make about 30
percent.
Mr. Gan said the company's capital investment had to be figured in.
Companies wanted about 15 to 20 percent return, usually. In a market
where there was good reception it took about seven years for a company
to reach a break-even point, that is, to make back the money it had
spent. A company might spend upwards of $5 million, depending on the
sophistication of the system. A cable system constructed in Fargo,
North Dakota, a city about the size of Palo Alto, had a system installed
at a cost of about $3 million; Fargo had had a 35 -channel capacity
installed. Mr. Gan said the state of the art was increasing and cable
systems were costing more.
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Councilmember Levy ascertained with Mr. Zaner, City Manager, that there
had been a 1 or 2 percent return on one utility -mailer questionnaire
concerning the fire department; another utility -mailer questionnaire
related to energy had been 5 to 10 percent return. He said he wanted to
keep the option open for ownership by the City --since passage of Proposition
13 such ownership might be peofitable. The procedure suggested by
Mr. Gan duplicated that process the Citizen's Advisory Committee on
cable TV had gone through a number of years ago, but tittle had core
from it; he did not favor having some non -committed company do a study
when he ultimately wanted a municipally owned system --he was willing to
have the City pay the $8000 costs for a study. He favored a scientifically
constructed questionnaire. He wanted Council to adopt staff's suggestion
that Council cocrmies1on a professional cable TV market analysis and
based upon results from that analysis Council could decide whether or
not to proceed with a study. He emphasized that he did not think City
ownership should be excluded.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Council ember Levy moved, seconded by Fazzino, that
Council approve the staff recommendation to commission a professional
cable TV market study at a cost of about $8000.
Mr. Gan pointed out that East Palo Alto, Menlo Park and San Mateo were
starting the process he had outlined. A mobile televising unit and
other such equipment would be possible with a large community: perhaps
Palo Alto would be interested in discussing the possibility of joining
them.
Councilmember Witherspoon noted that the City Attorney's report had
carefully spelled out differences between the tens "licensing" and
"franchising." To franchise the City had to obtain the signatures of 12
percent of the Llectorate of voters regi:;tered at the most recent municipal
election, then the measure could go on the ba1ot, and it had to pass by
a majority vote. Cauncilmenber Witherspoon said she thought that would
constitute a surveys assuming the City wanted to franchise.
Mr. Abrams said that according to the municipal charter the City could
install cable TV without going to voters and without issuing a contract
or a license.
Mr. Gan said he thought the City would do well to spend WOO on a
municipal ownership study.
Councilmenber Brenner raised the question of how the Cit would finance
the installation of cable TV without bonding, and bonding could not be
entered into without a toot thirds vote of the electorate.
Mr. Zaner agreed with Council/ember Brenner's premise.
Councilmember Brenner returned to point that only a residents'
uuryey was _a anted from the proposed utility mailer. She said she old
not support - a phone -survey; vey;i she -thought that particular use of the
telephone was ac invasion of privacy. She said that Mr. Gan had indicated
that he did not think Council was convinced that the City wanted cable
TV. She said that as right --she, for one, did not yet want it, and so
perhaps Council should be given a soft -sell on the subject. In view of
Sunnyvale's current problems with its ten-year old franchise she thought
Palo Alto might do well to bide its time; she raised the point of differences
between *need' and °demand." She did not think Palo Alto needed cable
TV, and she had not heard a demand for it. She thought that citizens
o ld indicate whether or not they wanted it at the ballot box. She did
not wish to block cable TV - if .it was wanted. She would vote against the
erosions made on the matter so far.
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Councilmember Eyerly said that all speakers had stated the need for a
market analysis; he said he was reluctant to have the City spend $8000.
He did not approve of municipal ownership. He wanted to table the
motion that Council approve the Policy and Procedures Committee recommendation.
That would give Councilmembers a chance to think over the merits of the
options of licensing, franchising, municipal ownership.
Vice Mayor Sher said the discussion thus far had seemed amorphous to
him; he did not know what the City was going to find out in a proposed
survey, regardless of how the survey was conducted. He reviewed the
possible questions and t;e said he would vote against both motions --he
thought Council had first to decide if it wanted to request a proposed
analysis and if so under what specified conditions.
Mayor Henderson said he had been deeply involved in the 1974 study on
cable TV, ant emphasis then had been on a municipally owned system in
order to forestall the kinds of problems Sunnyvale had been having.
Since then many communities had obtained cable TV, and he thought the
City might be missing something. He did not think a utility bill mailer
questionnaire would give much information. He said the two-way communication
capability of cable TV had much to recommend it. He did not want to
close off the possibility of municipal ownership, but he observed that
private companies had moved forward quite a bit. He thought the City
should move forward on the project too --he thought a system could be in
place within a year or two.
Councilmember Fletcher said she opposes+, the ration. She would like
staff to gather information an other communities' experiences with
licensing as opposed to franchising, and the issue of municipal ownership
and quality of private ownership service. She would like information on
the various kinds and levels of service disseminated, then Council could
decide where to go from there. She did not think this was yet the time
for a market survey.
Councilmember Renzel said that according to reports of cable TV companies
a very high penetration of Palo Alto was anticipated. She had not
herself received any phone calls on the topic, nor had anyone she met
asked !r about it. She did not think there was a great demand and yet
the penetration was a large factor so far as programming and access was
concerned; if assumed penetration did not occur there would be problems
accruing to the next Council. She noted Ghat Palo Alto had many cultural
amenities not obtainable in other communities to the same extent, and
with so much going stn the penetration might not be so high. She thought
the survey world provide an idea of how many users there might be.
Councilmember Levy asked if problems in other communities unities with cable TV
were on a broad sca'e.
Curios McNeely, Assistant to Cityi Faftager, said that about four out of
twenty cit#es'he had contacted were having problems: Sunnyvale, Brisbane,
Daly City and Redwood City. The first three were seeeciated with one
cable TV company.
Councilmember Levy noted that the information Councilmembers had, tallied
302 California communities with cable TV, with a penetration of about 59
percent. He thtuaght c i ti tens should be able to have cable TV if they
chose, and perhaps Council had the responsibility to offer them that
freedom to choose. He did not insist on municipal ownership and would
go with popular demand on that.
Mr, Gan said he'did not understand what those who favored a survey hoped
to gain. If the City decided it wanted a municipally owned system a
survey would help the City decide how much money it might make, but that
information was not relevant if a private company was to be licensed or
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franchised. He repeated that Councilmembers needed more informations in
order to make those decisions --he did not mean that remark to be critical.
He thought information should be gathered from other cities and then
Council could perhaps start the process by discussing municipal ownership.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION FAILED: The substitute motion that Council approve
the staff recommendation to commission a professionaal cable TV market
study at a cost of about $8000 failed on the following vote:
AYES: Fazzino, Henderson, Levy
NOES: Brenner, Eyerly, Fletcher, Renzel, Sher, Witherspoon
MOTION TO TABLE: Councilmember Eyerly moved that Council table the
recommendations of the Policy and Procedures Committee. The motion
failed on the following vote:
AYES: Eyerly, Renzel, Witherspoon
NOES: Brenner, Fazzino, Fletcher, Henderson, Levy, Sher
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Councilmember Eyerly moved, seconded by Levy, that
Council direct staff to gather further information and place the matter
of Cable TV on the agenda at a later date.
Councilmember Eyerly said that the substance of the City Manager's
remarks made him think Council could have more information before it
when deciding whether or not to have a survey.
MOTION PASSED: The motion passed on the following vote:
AYES: Eyerly, Fazzino, Fletcher, Henderson, Levy, Renzel
NOES: Brenner, Sher
ABSTAIN: Witherspoon
Councilmember Renzel observed that the discussion on the topic of cable
TV might have been less amorphous had more information care to the
Policy and Procedures Committee in time for its discussion.
WEED ABATEMENT PROS (CMR:520:9)
Countilmember Eyerly said he had moved this matter from the consent
calendar to find out about fire control measures in the Foothills. He
said that measures to reduce brush and
l` the like that would fuel fires
hadnot been taken; he wanted rg -- o ho _ 67sH7 -_ fi-�ltrt�stlrne r ftpi u P.who-
resided in the Foothills to trytoprotect .-themselves through reduction
of underbrush. He wanted staff to concern itself with the problem,
MOTION: Councilmember Eyeriy introduced the following resolution and,
seconded by Fletcher, moved its adoption by Council:
RESOLUTItN! 5759 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE
1CiL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO DECLARING
WEEDS TO BE A IW I SANNCE AND SETT I IG , % HEARING."
Councilmember Eyerly asked if the staff taruld be able to draw up a
Foothills plan that would be in conjunction with the weed abatement
resolution public hearing.
City Manager Zaner said he did not think staff could get,the material
before the hearing was scheduled, but he thought a plea could be drawn
for fire control in the Foothills and be submitted at another time.
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The motion passed on a unanimous vote.
BICYCLE MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENT POLICY (CMR:529:9)
Mayor Henderson asked that in Section I item 4 the words "...to attend
local or Bay Area activities outside of the City of Palo Alto," be
added. He said that would make the mileage conform to that charged
for automobiles.
Councilmember Levy said he thought bicycle use should be reimbursed at
the same rate as automobile use. That would encourage bike usage and
categorize bicycles as another kind of motor vehicle.
MOTION: Councilmember Levy moved, seconded by Fletcher, that, in accordance
with automobile mileage reimbursement policy, Counciimembers may be
reimbursed for use of a private bicycle to attend local or bay area
affairs outside the City of Palo Alto, at the motor vehicle rate.
Mayor Henderson asked if perhaps "provable costs" would be difficult to
show.
City Attorney Abrams said that some costs did occur, of course.
Councilmember Fletcher said she did spend more than 4« a mile -replacement
of a light generator end so on. She wanted the Levy motion to state
"...for private vehicle use.'
Councilmember Eyerly said he thought the 2Ct a mile charge for bicycle
use would be discriminatory, he would vote against the motion.
Councilmember Witherspoon said she could justify the 4it charge; the 2Ut
charge was more like incentive pay.
MOTION FAILED: The motion failed on the following vote:
AYES: Brenner, Fletcher, Levy, Renzel
HOES: Eyerly, Fauz1no, Henderson, Sher, Witherspoon
MOTION: Council s Fletcher introduced the following resolution, and
seconded y Levy, moved its adoption by Council:
RESOLUTION 5760 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING
RESOLUTION 5656 TO PROVIDE FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF
BICYCLE EXPENSES INCURRED IM THE PERFORMANCE
OF A NC i MUeR`5 DUTIES OUTSWE TIE Ci l Y
--OF PALO -ALTO.
Councilmember Renzel said she thought it would be worthwhile to explore
what some other costs of bicycling might be, for examples a person might
have to stop and have a seal because it took longer to get someplace.
Mayor Henderson noted that meals out of town were reimbursed.
Corrected AMENDMENT: Mayor Henderson moved, seconded by Eyerly, that reimbursement
See Pg.412 for automobile traffic be raised from 15f to 20t a mile. The motion
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MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED PASSED: The main motion adopting the resolution
passed on a unanimous vote.
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Vice Mayor Sher said he supported the staff recommendation that Palo
Alto participate in grant honey to develop implementation plans for
municipal solar utilities. He said he had attended several workshops
held by the League of California Cities (LCC) to promote solar application.
He thought the matter had statewide relevance.
MOTION: Vice Mayor Sher moved, seconded by Fazzino, that Council authorize
the mayor to sign the CSUDA Agreement (Attachment 1) and designate a
Council representative to perform such duties as are set forth in the
Agreement on behalf of the City.
Councilmember Fletcher asked if the project was limited to hot water use
only.
Connie $myser, Manager of Conservation, said that the grant gooney would
not be limited to use with hot water but at present it looked like the
best use of funds.
Councilmember Fletcher said that she preferred the reference to hot
water solar be deleted, so that the agreement would not be limited to
that.
Vice Mayor Sher agreed to make that change.
Councilmember Brenner asked if the agreement bore any relation to a
proposed solar block program —what was the status of that proposal?
Ms. Smyser said that this grant did not affect that proposed solar block
program, which, at present, was still in limbo, awaiting the possible
funding for that particular applscat`ono The CSUDA grant was for individual
heating systems.
MOTION PASSED: The motion passed on a unanimous vote.
ORAL CONNUNI CATI tNiS
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