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CITY
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PALO
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Regular Meeting
Monday, August 24, 1981
ITEM PAGE
Oral Communications 1 1 9 8
Approval of Minutes 1 1 9 9
Consent Calendar - Referral 1 1 9 9
Consent Calendar o Action
Master Social Worker - Police Department
Contract for Administration of Self -
Insured Employees' Health Plan, Dental
Plan and Retirees' Health Plan and
Premium Reimbursement Plan
Fire Department Physical Fitness
Program - Award of Contract
Ordinance Authorizing the Northern
California Power Agency to issue
Revenue Bonds (2nd Reading)
Ordinance re Crescent Park II
Underground. Conversion (2nd Reading)
Agenda Changes, Additions and
Deletions
Cultural Center Patio and Sidewalk
Repair (continued from 8/17/81)
Request of Councilmembers Eyerly,
Fletcher, Henderson, Klein,
Witherspoon re Additional Arastra
Study (continued from 8/17/81)
Fi:nance and Public Works Committee
Recommends Approval of the Selection
of the Firm of Wilbur Smith for
Professional S rvtces for Downtown
Parking Structures Study
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ITEM
Golf Course Coffee Shop Lease
Modification - Lease 166
Request of Mayor Henderson re Clean
Water Grant Funding
Request of Councilmember Witherspoon
re Arastra Horse Boarding Fees
Council Meeting of September
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Adjournment 1 2 1 9
Regular Meeting
Monday, August 24, 1981
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The City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on this date in
the Council Chambers. at City Hall, 250 Hamilton Avenue, at 7:35
p.m.
PRESENT: Bechtel, Eyerly, Fletcher, Henderson, Fazzino
Witherspoon, Renzel (arrived at 7:45 p.m.), Klein
ABSENT: Levy
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
1. Herb Borock, 3401 Ross Road, said that this month prospective
candidates for City Council could obtain nomination packets from
the City Clerk, and that one of the items included in the paf:ket_
was a copy of Chapter 2.10 of the Palo Alta Municipal Code (PAMC).
relating to Conflict of Interest Guidelines. He thought it was
appropriate for the Clerk to distribute. it since it was part of
City law, but recalled that about two years ago, the City
Attorney pointed out that Chapter 2.10 contained references to
State law that had been superseded, and recommended that Chapter.
2.10, or at least those .parts which were obsolete, be repealed.
He thought it was appropriate for City officials who were not
covered by the City's Conflict of Interest Guidelines to Alle made
aware through the PAMC of their responsibilities unde► the
Political Reform Act, but Section 2.10 as now written did `snot do
that. He referred to a Report from City Attorney, dated 'October_
3, 1979, which .stated that the information presented in the
report to the Council was information only pending further
definition of. Counci l intention. As far as Mr. Borock knew, the
Council had not indicated any further intent since that time. He
said the Report referred to the requirements under the law for
the Council, the City Manager and. other employees of appointed
board and commissions. Then in reference to the Moscone Act, he
stated that the Moscone Act, the previous legislation -requiring
disclosure by planning officers and others, was superseded by the
City's Conflict of Interest code discussed -in -that memo. He said
that portions of. that Actwere referred to in Chapte► 2.10 of the
PAM; and should _ be repealed.. He hoped that.one of the first acts
that the new City Attorney performed_ would be to update Chapter
2.10 of the PAMC.
2. David Blumenthal, ..1766 Willow Road, read a.. letter into the
record, which is on file in the City Clerk's Office, regarding..
the resolution of the problem regarding Paragraph 16 of the.
Lifetime Lease for Oak Creek Condominiums, and commending Don
Mayngr, the City Council and Scott Carey.
. Linda Austin, 1540 Oak Creek Drive, said she had received a
letter regarding the termination of her lease at Oak Creek. She
called a number of people in an attempt to =ascertain what was.
happening. She Said she ranted to stay at Oak Creek, and did not
want to keep getting the runaround.
COIJNC I LMEMUER RENZEL ARRIVED AT 7:45
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City Attorney Don Maynor said he had not spoken to Ms. Austin's
landlord, but the landlord was not Scott Carey, and his under-
standing was that the landlord dnd not wish to continue his lease
with her because he wanted to raise the rent. Mr. Maynor said he
did not know if that was true, but that was what he was told, and
that was a dispute betwen the landlord and the tenant. The City
Attorney's Office and the City Council could not get involved.
Mayor Henderson said it sounded like it was a job for the Rental
Housing Mediation Task Force, and suggested that Ms. Austin call
them.
MINUTES OF JUNE 15, 1981
Councilmember Renzel had a correction on page 915, second para-
graph, third line from the bottom, the word `"flog" should be '`bog
down."
Councilmember- Renzel had a correction can page 917, paragraph 2,
11 lines down,_ the line beginning with User's Tax should read,
"User's Tax. It might well ...."
Councilmember Klein said on page 893, first line, beginning with
the word "when," change to read, :'between issues that directly_
and indirectly affected the JCC."
MOTION: Vice Mayor Fletcher moved, seconded by Fazzino, to
approve the minutes of June 15, 1981 as corrected.
MOTION PASSED -unanimously, Levy absent.
MINUTES OF JUNE 18, 1981
MOTION: Vice Mayor Fletcher moved, seconded by Klein, to approve
the minutes of June 18, 1981.
MOTION PASSED unanimously, Levy absent.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Councilmember Witherspoon advised that she would abstain on Item
6, Ordinance re Crescent Park II Underground Conversion
Councilmember Renzel removed Item 3, Golf Course Coffee Shop
Lease Modification.
MOTION: Councilmember Fazzino moved, seconded by Witherspoon,.
approval Of the Consent Calendar as amc,.nded.
Referral
None_
Action
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MASTER SOCIAL WORKER POLICE DEPARTMENT (CMR:413:1).
The staff recommends that the City Council authorize the. City
Manager to sign a purchase order in the amount of $11,362, pay-
able to the County of Santa Clara, Department of Social Services.
The recommendation is in keeping with the exaendituies authorized
i_n the current budget and the. Council's action for funding during
1981-82
AGREEMENT - MASTER SOCIAL WORKER
Santa Clara County
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CONTRACT FOR ADMINISTRATION OF SELF -INSURED EMPLOYEES' HEALTH
PLAIT DENTAI FLAN AND RETIREES' RaLTii PLAN AND PREMIUM
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AGREEMENT - PROFESSIONAL SERVICES MANAGEMENT AND
ADMINISTRATION OF CITY OF PALO ALTO EMPLOYEES
HEALTH PLAN AND DENTAL PLAN
R. L. Kautz & Co.
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FIRE DEPARTMENT PHYSICAL FITNESS PROGRAM - AWARD OF CONTRACT
AGREEMENT - PALO ALTO FIRE DEPARTMENT
PHYSICAL FITNESS PROGRAM
Fiscal Year 1981.82 YMCA
ORDINANCE RE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA POWER AGENCY ISSUING REVENUE
ORDINANCE 3298 -entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALO. ALTO AUTHORIZING THE NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA POWER AGENCY TO ISSUE BONDS (SHELL EAST
BLOCK PROJECT - SECOND PHASE BONDS)" (1st reading
8/10/81, passed 9-0)
ORDINANCE RE CRESCENT PARK II UNDERGROUND CONVERSION 2nd
aaalazi
ORDINANCE 3299 entitled "AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION
12.16.020 OF CHAPTER 12.16 OF TITLE 12 OF THE PALO ALTO
MUNICIPAL CODE BY ESTABLISHING UNDERGROUND UTILITY
DISTRICT NO. 23" (1st reading 8/10/81, Passed 7-0,
Witherspoon "not participating," Klein "absent.")
MOTION PASSED TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR AS AMENDED unanimously,
with Witherspoon "not participating" on Item 6, Crescent Park II
Underground Conversion, Levy "absent."
AGENDA CHANGES, ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS
City Manager Bill Zaner advised that item 3, Golf Course Coffee
Shop Lease Modification, would become Item 9A.
CULTURAL CENTER PATIO AND SIDEWALK REPAIR Continued from
Councilmember Witherspoon said she had thought the proposed re-
pair work was too expensive, and she suggested that staff look
into alternatives such as putting wood decking down on the old
concrete rather than going to the expense of removing it and
laying a new patio. She said the Councilmembers had at their
places a staff report evaluating that alternative. She thought
she should have been more articulate as to what she had in mind
because they included the cost Of removing the,old concrete patio
which was not what she had in mind. She said that unless staff
wanted to design a simple.wood decking over a concrete patio, she
,would vote against the ordinance.
Assistant Director of Public Works George Bagdon said there were
two reasons for removing the existing concrete. 1) A lot ` of the
concrete was not stable and would, not support the piers that
would be supporting the deck, 2) They want to ._remove the concrete
in order -to allow root growth. They did not want to promote: root
growth, but real lied that it would take place, and the space that
would be present by removal , of the concrete would allow that
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growth.
Councilmember Witherspoon wondered why concrete was being put
back in, and in about ten more years, it would have to be taken
out again.
Mr.. Bagdon responded that under the decking alternative, there
would be no concrete ex;ept for: at the street for making the curb
cut in order to drain the deck.
Councilmember Witherspoon said she understood that originally the
concrete was to be replaced with another concrete patio.
Mr. Bagdon said that was correct, with paving stones, which would
give with the tree roots. There would be ten drainage basins in
that area so that there would be no drainage problems no matter
how the tree roots uplifted the stones. He said the stone would
be taken out and releveled so that it would not be a tripping
hazard.
Vice Mayor Fletcher said she realized it was a large expense, but
saw no alternatives.
MOTION: Vice Mayor Fletcher moved, seconded by Henderson,
approval of the ordinance.
ORDINANCE 3300 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING THE BUDGET FOR THE
FISCAL YEAR 1981-82 TO INCREASE THE APPROPRIATION FOR
CAPITAL .IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NO. 80-03 'PATIO AND
SIDEWALK REPAIR AT CULTURAL CENTER"
MOTION PASSED by a vote of 6-2, Fazzino, Witherspoon voting "n
Levy "absent."
RIQUEST OF COUNCILMEMBERS EYERLY FLT ER,HENDERSO KLEIN
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Councilmember Eyerly said the Councilmembers had a report in
response to requests for additional information on' raw land
values, so that they could try and get -some perception as to the
value of the acreage in the. southwest corner of the Arastra prop-
erty. The study indicated that the bringing in of utilities ---
electric, water, gas and sewer, an expensive item to get over to
that area, may be forestalled if they were thinking of a develop-
ment in that corner rather than on the 77 acres. The item was
agendiaed because it appeared that the Council should consider
that southwest corner for a possible 50 homesites so that ,some,,
or all or more, of the investment in the Arastra property could
be recaptured. He asked ` for some comments from staff regarding
the feasibility of a development __in the southwest corner. and that
they speak to the utilities. Particularly, he wanted to know if.
there were other hookups available rather than bringing the
utilities from the Palo Alto side:_ He did not know where the
Hewlett development wasesuppl ed from dr. the Lee property. He
thought that perhaps PG&E or other sources of ,those utilities
might be more economically feasible° in view of that fact, that
there was housing there.
Chief Planning Official Bruce Freelan) said that at Present there
were utilities near;: the southwest corner and utilities at the 77
acres. He said the 77 acres had a good public road, and could.
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be serviced immediately --it has gas, sewer and electricity run-
ning right at the perimeter of the property itself. He said that
in order to get to the southwest corner; access. would most likely
come. up the existing gravel road through what was known as "the
Reimer house." He said that the --existing road would have to be
upgraded in order to serve a 51 lot subdivision. It was in good
shape for a gravel road,.but would not be acceptable as the ac-
cess to. a:subdivision.. He could not give any type of a price
estimate, but said that: it would be more expensive than on the 77
acres where the main access road was already there.. He said that
presently there was electricity, sewer and water connections run-
ning up along Arastradero Creek over to serve the Hewlett subdi-
vision and other subdivisions around the golf course. He said
that in order to get sewer, water and electricity, it would be
necessary to run an extension between the existing service and
the southwest corner.. It would be a fairly expensive undertaking
in several respects. He said that as he understood City policy,
new extensions of electricity would be undergrounded. Under -
grounding in that area would be .difficult because of steep topog-
r aphy. He said water foul d hav to be pumped uphill, the sewer
had a fall. He said presently. there was_ a gas line which ran
part way there and then turned around _to the subdivisions around
the golf course, and An order .to bring gas in, it would have to
go all .the way up and then over to the site. Staff did not ex-
plore the possibility of bringing utilities in from the other
side. . He said there may be something to look at there, The
Hewlett subdivision was .served from utilities already full, and
Lee subdivision was on septic systems not sewer.
Councilmember Eyerly asked how "the Reimer house" was serviced.
Mr. Freeland said there was an existing series of telephone poles
bringing Palo Alto electricity into the site. .Certainly it would
not bring in the amount of power that a subdivision would
require. He -said apparently there was not gas :service toe the
site-, and water he speculated was provided from a well.
Councilmember Eyerly asked if was feasible to service the area' in
the southwest corner with utilities from other than City of Palo
Alto utilities. .
Mr. Freeland said he did not know.
Councilmember Eyerly said that his point on utilities was that he
thought they were all available right ad,;acent to the southwest
corner, but not by Palo Alto. He felt that had to be c onsid-
e r e d . . ..
Mr. Freeland sa d that regarding the market value of the prop-
erty, staff asked the consultant for the Arastra project to put
together information on comparable sales in the area. lie said
that "comparable sales" was .a loose term because they were talk-
ing about a project which was not 'being designed as a typical Los
Altos Hills, Por tot a Valley type of development. He said that,
homes and lots in the area typically were on one or two acres of
land, and the City was talking about a project that would cluster
homes on a smaller land area. The first thing they were dealing
with was the fact that most sales were not that . different in
size. In the latter pert of lest year .and the first two months
of 1961, in all there -were about 200 transact -ions in the hills of
Palo Alto, . Los Altos' Hills and Por tot a'Valley, and of those only
54 were land sales, and of the 54., only i ,'out 35 were considered
to be useful for this type of analysis., Of tt?e 35, 5 were over 2
acres ° in size. The range in prices was from $165,000 to $370,000
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for vacant lots ready° to receive homes. He said one could not
say there was a typical price within that range --there were
prices throughout the range. Twenty-one home sales were for
properties of one to two acres in size, which ranged from
$100,000 to $300,000, but were typically in $180,000 to $240,000
range. There were only nine lots of less than one acres, and
five of them were in Portola Valley Ranch. The
prices of the
nine lots were from $103,000 to $195,000, and tended to be around
the area of $150,000. He said the Portola Valley Ranch was prob-
ably the best comparison in terms of an existing development with
the type of development being talked about on the 77 acres.
Portola Valley Ranch had homes on lots of from one-third to one--
half acre in size and in addition to the land which comes with
the unit, each unit had a share of the common open space, He
said if all of the open space were taken and considered the
amount of land on average that was associated with each home, it
would come out to something over 2-1/4 acres for home size, but
someone would only actually own about one-half acre, but would
have a -common interest in additional open space.
Mr. Freeland said that usually Portola Valley Ranch sold final
houses, they have few transactions where they sell only the lots
themselves. They had five of those to look at, and the price
range on those five were from $141,000 to $195,000. He said the
foregoing was as close as staff had to .a comparable situation in
that when the 77 . acres were looked at, there were five different
development schemes several of which also included one-half acre
size with some, open space associated with the project, but not
under the individual ownership. He said that in the City's case,
the total amount of land area which would be associated per unit
was about 1.1/3 acres, so there was less land in the .development.
associated with the project than in Portola Valley Ranch. Fur-
ther, he said staff looked at options that would forego market
value by trying to cluster the homes in areas that had the poor-
est views because some of those options had the least environmen-
tal impact. He said staff had asked themselves, through the con-
sultant, to look at some options that a normal developer would
not look at because a developer would be looking always to maxi-
mize the price and that often meant maximi z iehg the visual impacts
of the project itself on the landscape. Despite the foregoing,
the consultant came up with a range of projected prices from
$113,000 per lot for the developments that were town houses, with
the town houses located out of the view area., up to $220,000 for
the half acre lots located on the ridge with the- best view. Mr.
Freeland said that was the first point of comparison which he
believed was the one that had been called into challenge in that
it did appear that, for at least the half -acre lots, the consul-
tants were being optimistic in their view of what the market
potential might be for those sites at least as compared to
Portola Valley Ranch. The consultants justified that in that
they felt that the best views on the 77 acres were superior to
the best views from Portola Valley Ranch. He thought _that was
subjective and difficult to say for sure what was the value of an
individual view, but -it_ was:probably: the best c.o'i arison..-
Mr. Freeland said that the consultant had given information in
their report that got at hhe question of lust what established
the value of a given site. The consultant felt. that there were a
number of factors, but that the most important were the: size, the
views, and the slope .._. They feel t that - the ,size was must ;important
as it related to sense ofopen space and privacy ' iie- development
nffe_red__to ._t' inriiv3du i The slope and topogt'aphy _ was- impor-,•-
tant _ in that the more gentle and easily developed the site, the
higher the value,' The more rugged, the less it would be valued.
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He said other factors the consultants felt would come into play
were things like trees and creeks; distance up the hill --the
higher the elevation, the higher the sales price; the prestige of
the area; and whether or not there was noise which would detract
from other values.
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Mr. Freeland said he attempted to evaluate the 77 acres with the
southwest corner in terms of the factors which were brought forth
by the consultant. First, he said that in terms of size, staff
designed the developments on the 77 acres to be no more than
one-half acre sites, which was done at the direction of Council,
the direction being to avoid the one and two acre typical subdi-
visions in the hills_. He said his assumption was that the same
philosophy _would be applied to the southwest corner, that would
be to design .relatively small lots .and maximize the open spate
preservation. -On size of lots themselves, they were probably
comparable. In terms of privacy, he said there seemed to -be a
decided advantage to the southwest corner. He said that - the 77
acres was basically an open field and- would be very difficult to
get a sense of privacy other than the design of the homes theme
selves, trying to orient their -views to not look at each other.
On the ,southwest -corner, there were many hills and knolls and
trees, and it vould be easier to design homes so that there would
be more of a sense ,of privacy. Also, he said that in fairness,
the southwest corner, if associated with a large area of public
open space, would have some benefit of that proximity of the
large -body of public open space sort of in the backyard of the
project, which would add to the sense_ of size.. Regarding the
views, he said that from the 17 acres they were good, but in his
opinion, the views were better from the southwest corner. There
were more panoramic vista and varied near` distance scenery to
look at. The topography on the 77 -acres was excellent and very
easily developed, and on the southwest corner it -varied from fair
to excellent. The fact that it was more interesting topograph-
ically meant that some of it was somewhat harder to develop. In
his opinion, it was not a difficult site in terms of the lay.: of
the land. Regarding amenities, he judged the 77 acres as aver-
age --it was -an open field, it had a few trees within the site.
The southwest corner, he thought was extraordinary, many trees
and different views. Regarding distance up the hill, the 77
acres was lamer than the southwest corner. Regarding prestige,
it had been asserted that the 77 acres would have a lower pres-
tige value than the southwest corner.. He said he accepted that,
and said he had no particular feeling for that. - He -thought `they
were both prestige locations as he understood them, He said the
77- acres had art influence of noise from 280, iwhtch detracted from
the site. Looking at it objectively, from the .criteria the con-
sultants put forward, his conclusion was that the- southwest
corner had qualities which would be more favored in the market
place.
Mr. Freeland said he made some observations and had some clues-
tior;. If the City took the 51 attached homes hidden from View,
the' consultants estimated that individual lots would sell from
$115,000 to $145,000, that the gross value of. the project of the
land would be $6,330,000, development costs would be $2,410,000,
for a raw land value of about $3,920,000. Compared to the option
of one-half acre lots loeateaup on the ridge for the best views
he said that in that case, the finished lots might sell for
$190,000 to $220,000, the grosz value of the `project would be.
$10,845,000, development costs somewhat higher because there was'
more roadwork involved $2,825,00, raw land value, of $8,020,000.
He said that the design options .:- had =:' had a major
influence on what the potential profits might be. The difference
in value would have to be equated to the difference in the impact
of the project on the landscape and the type of project they
Would be. A serious question that only the consultants could
reveal to the Council was whether there- were 51 half -acre good
view sites -on the southwest corner for comparison. Looking opti-
mistically --at what the values might be, given that it did seem to
be a superior -site. to the 77 acres, it:wet possible that the
values mi,ght-be somewhat higher for 'the individual half -acre
lots. Hea said that with some concern in that there'had been a
challenge that the 77 acre site was somewhat overvalued, so it
may be that, by ass-uming prices going into the range of the one
end two acre lots, the prices Isere inflated and overly .opti-
mistic. He mentioned that as a caveat= -not a conclusion. He
said it would niean a gross value, if the Council assumed that 20.
of` -the lots might be $200,000, 31 of the._. lots at $240,000, for a
total of $11,400,000. If one was very optimistsa and assumed
that all 51 would have the highest price, that could be about
$12,240,000. The development costs were unknown, but most cer-
tainly would be higher than on the 77 acres even if the utilities
did not have to,be brought in as far, the road had to be im-
proved, the utilities would have to be brought in further than
they would on the 77 acres, but did not know how much higher. He
said if that were taken away from the potential sales prices,
there might be raw land value--- in the .neighborhood of $9,000,000
give or take $1,000,000, dependent upon what was found in terms
of the real cost of the utilities. In a nutshell, he said there
--may be an economic advantage by moving to the southwest corner,
maybe that advantage would be on the order of $1,000,000, more or
less, but he could net say for sure without_ doing the study,
which would cost between $30,000 to $40,000. He thought thats in
looking at this, one might ask whether the potential advantage on
that or :.ter of Magnitude was worth the investment of money or
whether the fact was that the higher value was because of fea-
tures of the land that alseamade that land obviously of higher
value for_.;,open space preservation.. He said that the very fact
that it was higher had the more important views, was visible, and
had views of the Foothills Park, etc., were the very factors that
made the difference in value.
Mayor Henderson commented that the presentation was very helpful
for such a short notice project.
Counciimember Witherspoon said that regarding the southwest
corner and the road coming off Alpine Road, was it a public road
and if the City proposed a 51 unit subdivision on that southwest
corner, would they get a lot of static from Portola Valley.
Mr. Freeland said it was possible. He did not know the status of
the road .outside the City's jurisdiction, ;.but within the City's
jurisdiction, it was a prim=ate road. He said the road had not
been evaluated in terms of what improvements would have to be
made, ,which was something that ' the consultant study would look
into. - - L -- -
Councilrnember Renzel said regarding the raw land sales data,
presumably they were already subdivided and the development costs
had already been incurred c,o that the people were paying for
developed land sites where the developer purchasing any Arastra
lands would ha. to discount from that price in order to pay for
utilities and the development costs.
Mr. Freeland said that Was. correc
improvements to the road had to be figured, plus the improvements
to the basic services and also the carrying costs of the land
during the development process. He said there would have to be a
development fee of some sort to be paid, financing the carrying_
costs during the subdivision stage.
Councilmember Renzel said that actually the higher prices for the
35 raw land sales might be inflated prices in terms of trying to
make them comparable to what the City could expect to get, other
than a gross figure.
Mr. Freeland said he would not say they were inflated, he would
say they were for land in a different status, therefore, land
that had been subdivided and was ready to receive development and
had additional value put into it, which was why one would have to
look at development costs before jumping to a conclusion about
whether the added property values in the area would in fact
result in added revenue to the City.
Councilmember Renee] said that in Jegard to the extensions of
utilities, if the Council wanted to go to the southwest corner,
currently the utilities, went., up Arastradero Creek ,so that any
co.='str uct ion to put in the_ utilities would disturb Arastradero
Creek for a short period of time.
Mr. Freeland said the major concern would be bring -trig the gas
line in. The other basic services --electricity, water and sewer
came to the point where they went off eat a diagonal. The gas
Would have to be brought -in fresh and would cause more distur-
bance. He said he would be concerned about the disturbance that
bringing tie utilities oeerland from their existing location to
the southwest corner would entail. He said it was pretty rugged
property and dependent on how it was put in, there could be quite
a bit of disturbance.
Councilmember Klein asked if the same type of analysis had been
done comparing the environmental harms which would occur from the
development of the 77 acres to the southwest corner. -
'Mr. Freeland said that in the case of the 77 acres, they had done
an extensive analysis and it was up to the City Council. They
had choices that would effectively hide the homes.ites He said
those were the choices that took the homes off the ridges and
returned the lover` prices to the City. He said the homes placed
on the ridge would be visible from points higher up, again if
they were clustered they would have less impact because the
impact could be controlled with design. Clustering into town
houses lowered the potential return. In the case of the south-
west corner, there was some land nearest, the edge oaf Alpine Road
which sloped away from th.e property and, some homes could be
located there that would not be highly visible. _ He said he had
not done an analysis, but his feeling was that 51 homes could not
be ._ put there unless they were town houses or very highly
clustered. He thought" that in order: to locate 51 one-half acre
sites, many of the sites would have to be in locations -which
would be prominent, from the Park above, and from other points
around the landscape. Again, he said that at, this point they did
not know where the viable sites were. He thought the geology
would nave to be looked at to feel comfortable with the answer.
Counci lmei er Klein asked' Mr . Freeland if he saw any '`other_. envi-
ronmental ` differences between , the development of the two sites.
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Mr. Freeland said he thought that not so much an environmental
difference, but certainly the impact on views from surrounding
territory was greater on the southwest corner. He was also
concerned about the damage which might occur putting the utili-
ties in and the question of potential isolation from the uses of
a future park in the area. He said they were both at the edges
and he felt that the 77 acres was somewhat more separated physi-
cally from the bulk of .the parcel, and` it would be easier to make
it not seem like an intrusion into the Park. He believed that a
major access to a future park was going to be up through that
access road that the homes•would also have to use.
Larry.Faber, 3127 David Avenue, President of Palo Alto Horsemen
for wails Preservation,- said their stand was that they preferred
to see the entire property dedicated as parkland, however, if the
Council must sell off some of. it, they felt that the southwest -
corner was much more desirable.
Pose Gray, 1235 Hamilton Avenue, Chairperson of the Loma Prieta
Chapter of the Sierra Club, said she looked at the southwest
corner and noticed that it: was partly woody and a creek was
there. She felt that one thing that had not been addressed in
any of the studies was the impact on wildlife in any of the
areas. She commented that Foothills Park, Hewlett and Arastra
had a very large population of wildlife hand her. sense was that
utilizing the southwest Corner would interfere with the areas
where the wild animals.had been able to wander. She said she had
been told that each of the open space areas had a carrying capac-
ity for wildlife and that as the developments increased and
encroached on open spaces, their ability to support the wildlife
decreased. The Council should address whether they would firnd
out by paying $40,000 if the views would be impaired from Parks
and if the wildl ife areas would be impacted. She thought that as
a City, Palo Alto should take a leadership role in preservation
of open space. She cited the 1970 Livingston- Blaney report,
which suggested leaving the property as open space. She ques-
tioned whether tore money should be put into further studies..
She thought the land should be dedicated as an open space park
l anti, and asked the Council to do that.
Bob Moss, 401.0 0rme, said he thought the questioh really was
whether the City wanted view lots which would also be viewed from
other areas. If the answer was that the City wanted minimum
visual impact, then it probably would not make sense to go to the
southwest corner. He said that in terms uf the advantage' of
having a view site vs. a non -view site, it was between 10% and
15% for equivalent houses. No one had mentioned emergency ser-
vices and he thought that„access through Portola Valley was a
serious problem. He wond.ered is Portola Valley would be willing
to spend money to upgrade a road to serve a °significant subdivi-
sion. i.r the past there had been problems with neighhoring com-
nunities'where Palo Alto had asked for service roads in. the Foot-
hills and the neighboring communities had been very uncooper-
ative. Fuvther, he asked if a development on either of the sites
would.: be more susceptible to wildfires. A lot of the lava had
not been burned since early in the century, and he wondered which
area would bemore vulnerable to .brush fires. His preference Was
for housing on the 77 acres, because the services were there and
because the access.. 'was better.
Mayor Henderson said that he felt it was important that the
Council study the Arastra property for development feasibility
and potential financial return. He felt that without doing that.,
the Council jeopa'rdi zed any future revenue t a i sng ballot
measure. He thought that the entire 515 :.acres should have been
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looked at for $100,000 rather than 77 acres for. $90,000. He said
he looked again at the property, and the area indicated by Mr.
Carey and Mr. Faber probably would bring in more dollars, but it
was obvious that there would be higher costs to develop utilities
and roads more damaging to the environment, and greater visual
impacts. At this stage, he was not willing to spend another
$30,00; to .¢40,000 to make an extended study into that one area.
He hoped that Council could complete the study on the 77 acres as
soon as possible so that it could be decided if any development
were favored. He was ready to move forward toward dedication of
the 438 acres as soon as possible.
Councilmember Eyerly said he thought there were some ingredients
missing on the southwest corner. The most obvious one was that
Council did not know the feasibility of utility connections other
than with Palo Alto. He said he did not think that the visual.
impact had been studied in enough depth for anyone to make any
statements. His observation was that houses developed on the
southwest corner were in enough of a depth laid so that they
would not be visible from any of the Arastra property on the
north side of the Reimer ridge and that 'the outlook at Foothills
Park was not visible from that area. lie thought Council needed
input from staff on that with some environmental inspection as
far as the visual impact. Further, he thought that the road
status from Alpine Road up to the southwest corner property line
needed to be looked at. He wondered whether Councilmembers who
had not been out there within the last month should not partici-
pate in the walk around. He thought the entire Council was
thinking about the money which had already been spent on the con-
sultant for the _77 acres, and he was reluctant to spend any more
money, but would not be against stopping the consultant's .work at
this time on the. 77 acres, and using, the money which was left in
that contract for getting some of the more detailed information
which was needed on the southwest `corner. Short of that, he
would be interested in staff fielding some of that information
and leaving the southwest corner out of the dedication until
Council had that information. He felt Council needed to consider
the possibility of recapturing between $8 and. $10 million for
some housing in one section or the other of the Arastra property.
He thought Council had enough information on the 77 acres, and if
any more Honey were to be expended, he would rather see it spent
on the southwest corner. The City needed the recapture of money;
he heard people continually talking aboit purchase of school
sites, but the City needed the money to do it, and if the Council
passed up an opportunity for $8 to $10 million on the Arastra
property, he thought the Council was being short- sighted.. He
wanted to delay the process to get'iore information.
Mayor Henderson asked staff if they could stop the consultant
study at $7.5,000 and put the $15,000 into something else, and
would the City still have to eventually pay the consultant to.
complete the presentations to the Planning "Commission and
Council, etc.
Mr. Freeland said it corld . be decided not to publish the report
which Was -worth several thousand, they could decide not to have
any additional presentation from the consultant. He said the:
consultants had been working practically: -full time on the report,
and he was wire their bill was larger than it was a week ago. He
said he could not give the Council a dollar figure of what was
left in the contract. He said that the biggest single item would
be to not publish the report.
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Vice Mayor Fletcher said she thought that the report the Council
'received was incomplete, and that the. results of the additional
work would be very useful. She thought the study should be pub-
lished and available for the general public to comment on, She
said she was content that the discussion of the southwest corner
had been useful and was not sorry that she signed the memo which
requested additional study of the area. She said she was origi-
nally of the opinion that the Council should study the -entire
area to determine if there was a desirable site for housing and
where the best site might be. At no time did she permit herself
to want to vote for an additional $30.000 to $40,000 for addi-
tional consultant study, but the discussion did lead to a brief -
my -.by staff on site both on the 77 acres and the southwest
corner, and it did point out the difficulties in the upper lot.
.The costs in the report tonight showed the Council that there
would not be a significant difference in the selling price of the
lots_but really did not make it worthwhile to continue to look at
the southwest corner, and it was not worth shifting funds from
the 77 -acre site study because she felt that should be completed.
Vice Mayor Fletcher felt At was still questionable whether
housing would be approved on -the 77 acres itself, but Council did
,-need to have -all the facts since they had gone so far in order to
make a intelligent determination. She did not want to hold up
the drafting of the dedication ordinance for the 438 acres and
hoped Council proceeded with that.
Councilmember Bechtel said she felt there were too many environ-
mental costs as well as costs to provide- the services and access
on the road, as well as emergency vehicle access to get to the
southwest corner. She said she spent several hours walking,
around the property, and there was no question that it was a
beautiful piece of property. She said she would rather see the
southwest corner and all of the Ar astr a property available to all
members of the public to be_ able to walk on, fly kites and picnic
on, than limit it to 51 families who -had -$500,000 that they could
afford to spend on housing.
Councilmember Fazzino commended Bruce Freeland on his presenta-
tion. He proposed that Council double his salary and refuse to
pay the consultant because he thought Mr. Freeland gave the
Council the only_information anyone .on the Council ever wanted to
receive. He thought the consultant report was the biggest waste
of taxpayer funds in the history of Palo Alto. Regarding the
information received by Council tonight as far as the southwest
corner was concerned, there might be economic advantage over
the southwest corner, but only if the development potential were
maximized. He was concerned that th'6 development costs were.
unknown and if the assumptions of tonight's report were carried
out, there probably was not that much difference between the
economic return of the 77 acre proposal and the southwest corner.
He said he recognized that some Counci lsnember s still preferred to
get additional information to consider the possibility of housing.
on the 77 acres, 'and even though he opposed it, he encouraged if
the councilmewbers supported that, moving forward asp; quickly as
possible with dedication: of the 438 acres, and holding off until
the Council felt it . had enough information to make a decision on,
the other 77 acres. Councilmember Fazzino still believed that
the best course: would be dedication of the entire property. He
Said -he was concerned ;;that the Council was throwing good money
after . a"' very poor consultant report and information which would
not give the Council any additional ability to make an informed
decision.:. He thought the Council was in a position now to make a
decision as to whether there should be housing on the site. .He
supported dedication.
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Councilmember Klein said he thought Council saved either $35,000
to $40,000 or $10,000 at least tonight while at the same time
having given sufficient exploration of the southwest corner as a
possible site. He said that as one who had been going out to the
Arastra property for better than tenyears, his initial reaction
was that the 77 acres was probably the best site, if any, to be
developed, but when others proposed that perhaps the southwest
corner was better, he thought it deserved to be explored.. He
thought it had been explored now, and he thought that Mr
Freel and' s excellent report and the intelligent and persuasive
comments from the audience were sufficient to demonstrate that
the southwest corner did not need to be explored any more, and
that, therefore, some money had been saved for the City. He
thought that a majority of the Council felt the same and that
they should probably proceed and forget about the southwest
corner.
Councilmember Witherspoon said that the Council would not be
meeting again until September 14, and would not get a Park
Dedication Ordinance before them until at least the 14th. She
thought it would probably cost a lot more to develop the south-
west corner than Mr. Freeland estimated in which case, the City
was not ahead $1 million by developing that vs. the 77 acres.
She was persuaded that it would be nice to keep the 77 acre
swatch open as an open space corridor, which was one reason she
was interested in developing the southwest corner, as well as.. the
fact that she thought the City could get a better price for . the
land. She was concerned about three things which she thought
could be answered in two weeks by three phone calls. She wanted:
1) The status of that road determined vis-a-vis Portola Valley
and to hear what their position on it would be; 2) The utility
situation vis-a-vis the PG&E service to the houses around that
road; and 3) Staff is to go to the -outlook in Foothills Park and
take some 1 i ne of site readings to see whether or not . that corner
was visible from the Foothills Par k over l ook or from any other
sites Council felt were environmentally very important. She
thought these things could all be done within the next few
weeks.
MOTION: Councilmember Witherspoon moved, seconded by Eyer1y, to
continue the discussion of whether to consider the southwest
corner any further until September 14, and ask staff to make
three investigations: 1) Determine the legal status of that road
down to Alpine Road and make a call to Portola Val 1 ey to see what
their policy was as to further development on that road; 2) The
utility situation; and 3) Line of site views to be taken at
overlook at Foothills Park.
Councilmember Renzel said that when Council decidedto study the
frastra property, she made it clear that the only circumstance in
which she would consider development would be if it were an
exemplary development to show how: could Foothills development
could be done, which would be highly clustered, With very small
use of the land, and a high degree of open space protection. It
was clear to her that. 'IA terms, of dollar return for the City by a
sale of, any of the Arastra'- property for development that high
return meant high environmental damage, building on ridge .tops,
using a lot more land per unit to sell l off, and less, open space,
and probably much more paving and�'drainage problems. She thought
it was clear that the one to two acre lots that could be,, seen
from Mtastra in Portola Valley would basically urbanize the.
Foothills, which were :not rural in the visual sense. She thought
it was clear that if the City were to develop in an environmen-
tally sensitive way, the,_-return.:_.to the City would be minor in
terms of any commitne4its they would- have to make to purchase
school sites in the urban area, .and she did not find it satisfac-.
tory to consider one-half acre or one acre lots as a way to
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develop it. She did not think it was an environmentally sound
way for the City to set any type of example, She was prepared to
dedicate all of the 515 acres and would like. to see th.e Mullen
Ridge and the Arastradero Creek properties which had been dedi-
cated to the City as open space be _dedicated as well in the Park
Dedication Ordinance.
Mayor Henderson said regarding the consultant Is report, whereas
their report did not totally meet all of CounciI's.:needs, he
thought it was useful when Council met with the consultant and
pointed out some of the shortcomings, and he did not think the
report was all that atrocious. For example, he felt the consul-
tant had given a very complete analysis of the 77 acres. He
thought the information was a little short on the financial side,
but he was sensitive to the fact that the Council was saying it
teas a total waste of time, and that they had done a terrible job,
and he did not entirely agree.
MOTION _._FAILED TO CONTINUE by a vote of 6-2, Eyerly, Witherspoon
voting "aye," Levy absent.
Counci lmember Renzel moved, seconded by Eyerly, to
direct staff to prepare an ordinance for dedication oi Mullen
Ranch and Arastradero Creek properties (separate from Arastra
park dedication ordinance).
City Manager Bill Zaner asked that since Councilmember Renzel had
included the additional properties if Council would give staff
some time to report back to Council before they included them in
the dedication because staff was trying to work out some negotia-
tions with the County for some park vs. housing land, Staff
thought they might be able to use some of this land, keep it in
park, but do it in such a way that the City would end up with
some additional land for housing in the flatland. Once the land
was dedicated, staff would lose that flexibility. He proposed
that staff prepare a brief report, explaining to Council how
staff would like to make the switch so that the Counci 1 would be
assured that they would not lose any parkland it: the process He
was concerned that flexibility with the County would be lost once
dedication was made.
Counciimember Renzel asked how long the negotiations had been
going on and why Council did not know about them.
Mr. Zaner said they had been going on about two days. He said
the County owned the property at Birch . and Grant and would like
to sell that property to their own park fund and. then dedicate
that property. The negotiations involved trading properties with
the City, and the County could then purchase their new property
with their park money, and turn it ove" to Palo Alto. Palo Alto
.cou l d then dedicate it as parkland, just as the Council wished,
and the City would end up with the piece at Birch/Grant and the
parkland.
Councilmember Renzel asked: if it would be County parkland?
Mr. '_;Zaner said yes, _ it would be a piece of County park and as
staff saw it, the County would have Lo turn . around and offer it
back to the City i n per petutty for some $1 0 $2 per- year.
Couric ilmember Renzel asked where the, County would get the
$.5.0,0003
Mr. Zaner- said it would be from their park fund. He said the
County had money in their park fund, but could not reach it for
their general fund. What the County was trying to do was trans-
fer the money from the park fund to the general fund, and were
going to do it by selling themselves an asset.
Councilmember Renzel thought it was an interesting concept, but
was concerned that to try and provide a County park in that area
might be somewhat difficult because the kinds of facilities that
would be needed to make i t into a County park facility might be
significant.
Mr. Zaner said the City would not expect the County to operate it
as a park, they would expect the County to return it to the City
in some fashion. It would be added to the City's open space. up
in the hills, and for all intents and purposes would be a City
park not a .County park. " The County would not deal with it.
Counc lmember Renzel said she not sur..e whether the. Park Dedi-
cation Ordinance prevented the City from selling parklands for
other than park use.
City Attorney Don Maynor said it was also confusing to him. He
said the park ordinance did prohibit 'the sale of property for
nonpark use. He said he would have to sit down with Mr. Zaner to
discuss the particulars, and. was not ready to say whether this
would be legal'.
Mr. Zaner said the attorney already had instructions to bring
back a dedication ordinance for the Arastra property. Mr, caner
said he would like an opportunity to outline the plan in some
more detail for the Council before the other properties were
added. If after reviewing the memo, Council still decided to add
those properties to. the ordinance, it could be amended and move
ahead, but he did not want to lose the opportunity because of
moving'too fast.
Councilmember Fyer"ly was sympathetic to Mr. loner's request. It
seemed to him that there ;`sight be something going there which
would be to the City's advantage. One question he had was that
the City still, with the transfer, would be able to exclude
people who were not residents of Palo Alto from the use of those
properties as in Foothills Park. He wondered whether that had
been thought about. With County property, he saw the foot in the
door to open Foothills Park to outside of Palo Alto usage, and. he
thought the Council would want to exclude out of town people from
the Arastra property and the adjoining property. He said it had
nothing to- do with removing the motion or continuing it, but as
long as they were into it, he wanted the question answered.
Councilmember Renzel said she would still prefer the dedication
for the Mullen and. Hewlett and Arastradero_ Creek properties. She
said the Arastradero Creek property could be defined separately
from the -Arastradero property and if there was :a need to continue
it because of negotiations, that was okay, but she would like to
see it come before the Council, and they could continue it if
need be at that time. She wanted to set the wheels in motion.
Councilmember Witherspoon supported the. motion. She asked the
City Attorney if the City took the dedicated open space that went
with the development rights on the properties involved, would the
City run into any. `complications with that having to be .open
space. She said she thought that some of the land to be dedi-
cated was deeded . to the City with the understanding that ii re -
ma -In open space and : t:" was tied in with the -Open Space District
requirements for the development rights on the lot that would be
privately owned and bu t en,
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Mr. Maynor said he did not think it was a problem because in the
City's park dedication ordinance, one of the uses under the park
dedication ordinance was for open space so he thought the two
would be consistent. He said he would double check as part of
the assignment.
Vice Mayor Fletcher asked Mr. Zaner how long he thought the
negotiations with the County would continue?
Mr. Zaner said he thought the negotiations would take some time.
He said that -staff had requested that the County remove from its
agenda the `matter of dedicating the Grant/Birch piece as a part.
The County took it off their agenda and agreed to hold_ it until
they had an opportunity to review with City _staff whether an
arrangement could be worked out which would be satisfactory to
the City Council, the Board of Supervisors and the Housing
Corporation. The County had told them that they did not need to
take the step of dedication until sometime in the Spring, which
would allow some time to try and work out the details. If they
were talking about Swapping properties and doing those kinds of
things, it could not be done quickly.. He had no problem with the
motion as -_ it now read, but asked for an opportunity to give the
Council an explanation in some detail of how staff -.felt the
program could be put together. If it". looked like it had merit at
that time, Council could continue the items_ or set them aside.
As long as the City was not pinned -down at this point, it would
be a i l right,
Vice Mayor Fletcher said she did not want to. hold up the Arastra
dedication pending outcome of the negotiations.
MOTION PASSED unanimously, Levy absent.
FINANCE AND PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS
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F TR M Iii[ T 1l ii E N I iV i' A SS T S R ASH 1d e IA O N S
ftI1.GUR SMITH & AstpcIATEs (CMR:4O6:
Counci)member Eyerly advised that he would. not participate i.n
this item,
Councilmember Fazzino, Chairman of the Fioance and Public Works
Committee, said that a selection committee was put together to
make the recommendation to the Committee and subsequently to the
Council with respect to the firm of Wilbur Smith. He said the
Committee briefly discussed the issue, and went along, with the.
staff recommendation that the Council authorize the Mayor to
execute the contract with Wilbur Smith & Associates i_ n the amount
of $36,000. He. said that at the Committee there was concern
about the whole issue of retail, the issue of air rights, and the
kinds of concerns being addressed in the downtown area, and the
feeling was< > that with respect to this particular ' lot that had
been made for the parking structure, that the City needed _to move
forward as quickly . as possible to provide the needed spaces. He
said the Committee asked . what the City would be receiving as a
result of the study, and it was indicated that the City would not
get a final design, but ` rather a conceptual design, and the
Committee and the -Council would ,have the opportunity to change
course in the piddle of stream. if they so desired given the
concerns about air rights and -other issues.
-MOTION: Caunci lmember Fazzirio on behalf of the :Finance and
Public Works Committee moved approval of the selection of -the
'firm • of Wilbur Smith - & Associates for professional services
for the Downtown Parking Structures Study, and that staff be
authorized to negotiate with the second ranked firm in the event
an impasse is reached with Wilbur Smith & Associates.
AGREEMENT - CONSULTANT SERVICES - TRANSPORTATION PLANNING
Wilbur Smith & Associates
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Vice Mayor Fletcher commented that she did not know of a commit-
ment of the_ Council for a parking structure.' She said the
Council did commit themselves to have a study done. further, she
said that there had been some demand for.. a - public restroom down-
town, and she felt that 'a parking ,structure would be a suitable
location if it could be worked in.. She said it was 'in the
minutes of when Council discussed it, but wondered if it might
not still- be considered in the study. She said that among the
groups that should be consul ted in the course of the study, she
wanted to add on Exhibit A, page I, under II(a)2 that "PABAC".- be
added to that section, which was the Palo Alto Bicycle Advisory
Committee, because there was mention of bicycle parking.
Councilmember Witherspoon asked if the restroom was inct-uded in
the motion, and pointed out' that there were eight floors of.
public restrooms in City Hall plus facilities in the City Library,
so she took Hal of London's comments continuously about no public
restrooms' downtown with a- large grain of salt.
Vice Mayor Fletcher said she had come in to town one Saturday to
do some reading in the library. She heard the leaves outside the
building rustling. She said she peeked outside, and there was a
well -dressed, elderly lady squatting down in the corner relieving
herself. She said it did happen and that City Hall was not al-
ways open when the shops were open. She said when her children
were young, she avoided taking them downtown because they always
heeded a restroom. She said she preferred shopping at the
Shopping Center because she knew there were bathrooms available.
MOTION.. PASSED unanimously, Eyerly "not participating," Levy
absent.'
GOLF COURSE COFFEE SHOP LEASE MODIFICATION - LEASE 166
Councilmember Klein said that since he had represented Mr. Kramer
in civil matters including the negotiation of the original :lease
with the City more than a year ago, he would abstain on this
matter.
Staff recommends that Council authorize the. Mayor to approve a
lease amendment reflecting the recommended changes. The modifi-
cations are also supported by the Citizens' Golf Advisory
Committee.
Councilmember Renzel said that if the tenant was going to adver-
tise to the public generally . for evening use, it seemed to her
that it would preclude civic groups from leasing the fv.rfiity and
contracting with the tenant for group meals. Per sonal ly, she
preferred to see that option left open. She did not want to see
civic groups precluded frol reserving the dining room for dinner,
meetings. If the facility was to be open, she thought it was
more in keeping, as a public facility, to have it available to
civic groups.
Acting Golf Course' Manager :; Del Thorpe
said that Mr. Kramer
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currently provided some services for groups and banquets in the
evening, which seemed to work quite well. He said there was a
meeting room which would accommodate from 80-100 persons for that
type of activity as well as. the Coffee Shop area for groups or
people who would come in for dinner. He said they had had
limited experience with both groups, but he was sure that both
could be accommodated.
Councilmember Renzel said that the use of the facility in the
evening was governed by Mr. Kramer under the current lease and
the proposed lease. She said it was not a City facility that was
leased out through the City property department, but through Mr.
Kramer.
Real Property Administrator Jean Diaz said --that the lease as it
currentlyexists-regarding this particular provision would not be
modified and did require that during the non -luncheon hours the
room could be made available to different groups that were inter-
ested in using_it, subject to reasonable fees and rates for com-
parable City facilities.-- He said the City did not directly
administer the use of that facility, but the lease did prescribe
provisions for use by others that, Mr. Kramer was bound by.
Councilmember Renzel clarified that that would. not be modified.
Mr. Thorpe said that was correct.
Councilmember Renzel said she was also concerned that in Attach-
ment "A,' last paragraph, it said, "In the event that LESSOR's
City Manager or designee determines that such existing condition
is unsafe for night -tine use, TENANT shall make the necessary
lighting modifications subject to LESSOPT applicable review and
approv°ei procedures..." She said that obviously it would have to
go through Site and Design, but it also bound the tenant to do
it. She was concerned that there was quite a proliferation of
lighting out in the Bayl an is area, and she was concerned about
mandating more lighting even though it would have to go through
Site and Design Review.
Mr. -Diaz said that the intent in that clause and in the last
phrase, "or alter business hours to eliminate such night-time
activities" reflects the staff's belief that the current situa-
tion was adequate for any of the anticipated night-time activi-
ties that would be going on even if dinner were ,served. However,
i f it should turn out that the assessment was not accurate s staff
believed there were two courses of action that may be appro-
priate: 1) to make some lighting changes if was desired; or
z) alter the business hours. in. other words eliminate the
problem ,that required additional lighting. Staff did not inter-
pret the clause as automatically requiring the lighting.
Councilmember Renzel : said the intent as she understood it was
that the tenant had to pay for such lighting if:. needed and if it
were approved. She asked if it 'could be worded in such a way as
to make it clear that the object was that the tenant was required
to, pay for it, but only if it were approved and required rather
than to say that the tenant shall , maker it. She said she was on
the Planning Commission long enough to know that it would come
before the Planning Commission and the applicant would say the
tenant was required to put it in, now . you have got to approve
something. She did not want to see that condition set up for the
future.
Mr. Diaz said that one reason was to define.: that
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determined that additional or some modified lighting was the
appropriate course of action that the tenant shall take that
action. He said it was not staff's intent to indicate that that
was the only option to be pursued, which was the reason for
adding the language, "or alter the business hours.
Councilmember Renzel was concerned that the City was requiring
them to do one of the two alternatives, and that the City was
determining that the tenant would be asked to do one of those two
alternatives. Then they would come to the City, and ask for
approval of the lighting, and would undoubtedly say that they
were required by the City to put it in, or else "they would
suffer tremendous economic hardship by having to close earlier."
She thought that perhaps Mr. Maynor could help her with the
language.
Mr. Maynor asked if Counci lmember Renzel was concerned that under
that provision, the" P anning Commission or the -Council would be.
compelled .to approve lighting because often times the City
included language "that nothing herein would require that the
City approve lighting." He said he had_ not seen the wording
before tonight either.
Councilmember Renzel said adding that language would satisfy
her.
MOTION: Councilmember Renzel moved, seconded by Fletcher, to
approve contract with language to be added "that nothing herein
shall require or obligate City to approve the additional or
modified lighting."
GOLF COURSE COFFEE SHOP LEASE MODIFICATION - Lease 166
Vice Mayor Fletcher said she was concerned that the emphasis was
on dinner time, and she wanted to see the emphasis on expanding
the lunch time patronage.- She said there was a rapidly growing
empl: tyment center east of Sayshore, and most of those people
drove to the westside of Bayshore at lunch time. She hoped they
could be made aware of the .facility during the lunch hour. She
wondered if there could not be a direction given to the coffee
shop owner to attract.tha.t type of patronage.
Mr'. Diaz said hat . the situation currently experienced was that
lunch time kisiness was at- capacity, and those were the hours
that the golfing public was the primary user. He said: they
wanted to be sure that they 'did not adversely affect the service
to that very important public, In fact, he said staff -was
concerned that they not expand the attractiveness of the lunch
time hour too much and, therefore, they wanted to allow Mr.
Kramer to concentratee on rbreakfasts eand dinners" to get the
necessary use and occupancy of that business.
MOTION PASSED unanimously, Klein "not participating," Levy
absent,
RE9UEST OF MAYOR HENDERSON RE CLEAN WATER GRANT FUNDING
Mayor Henderson said that President Reagan's _ budget for 1981-82
included a moratorium on _ federal grants for wastewater treatment
facilities. = He said many members of Congress were expressing
concern about . it, and tfiey saw ;_hope`: for :a budget amendment
reinstating at least some funding for the coming year°:. He, said .a
cut off of all funding would be devastating. In the Bay Area
there were a number of wastewater facilities in , their final
stages of development. They were all part of the overall program
to clean up the Bay, and if these projects Were delayed, local
funding would not be adequate for later completion. He said
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everyone was affected by the quality of their Bay water, and
after years of constructing new wastewater facilities, including
Palo Alto's plant, a remarkable improvement in Bay water quality
was noted. There were a. number of projects in Marin County,
Petaluma, Hayward, San Jose, and San Francisco that would be
drastically affected if the funding was not forthcoming.
Remaining funds for carry over from this year into 1981-82 were
likely to go in the main to Southern California so that if there
was not the additional funding next year, this - rt of the State
would be very short.
MOTION: Mayor Henderson moved, seconded by Renzel, to direct the
Mayor to write a letter to Palo Alto's senators and represen-
tatives urging funding in 1981-82 for the Clean Water Grant
Program.
Councilmember Eyerly asked if the State Water Resources Control
Board was appointed by the Governor?
Mayor Henderson said yes.
Councilmember Eyerly said :he had heard State Water Resources
Control .Board's presentation at a number of permit request hear-
ings which he had attended, and At was anything but moderate, and
did not consider both sides of the issue. The letter from Carla
Bard did not present all of the Administration's side of what
they planned to do. Ho said it did mention that zero appropria-
tions for 1582 would give Congress and the Administration time to
work out reforms. It did not say that they necessarily were
going to discontinue all grants, Before he would be willing to
vote on the motion, he needed some input from the other side,
because he thought the letter they had was too one sided and did
not present anything from the other side. He said the Adminis-
tration was trying to economize and that this might be a viable
way to do it. He would oppose the motion as presented.
Mayor Henderson said that if there was zero appropriation in
1982, it was not that they ware saying that they should not be
economizing, that the pro raM should not be reviewed and possibly
out back. However, if there was zero appropriation it 1982, then
a number of the projects in Northern California would simply be
out because they had already. reached their final stages, the
citizens jiad passed local bond issues which would run out, and
there was no likelihood that' they would be able to pass them
again at a much higher cost. This would simply. ,br i ng those
projects that had gone through years and years of stages to the
very final stage and would be brought to a halt. He said if
there were not at least some minimum funding to complete those at
Stage 3, some of them would not be able to go forth, and a place
_like San Jose may very well face upsets because they had to do a
$20 million interim improvement 'this year or they would not be
able to function.
Counc i lmember Eyerly said he aceepted that, and asked if `'the
motion ar_ the letters written qualify what the _City was actually
asking for. More specifically, asking to keep the project alive
while the > ref0rL studies were being. - made - by - Congress and Ole
Administration.
Mayor Henderson said it would be seeking minimum funding t
it alive.
Councilmember Eyerly said that was fine as :long 'a
that way.
Councilmember Witherspoon said she supported what had just been
worked out, and pointed out that last week's Wall Street Journal
had an article on that subject. She understood that the zero
appropriation for this specific purpose in 1982 would be phased
into block grants to the State. In other words; from now on the
priority would be at the State level to take the federal money
and set aside so much for the sewer treatment.
MOTION PASSED unanimously, Levy absent.
RE9UEST OF COUNCILMEMBER WITHERSPOON RE ARASTRA HORSE _BOARDING
FEES
MOTION: Councilmember Witherspoon moved, seconded by Fazzino, to
postpone increase in horse boarding fees until decision is made
re Arastra.
Councilmember Bechtel said she thought staff had sent a memo
saying that the City's fees were considerably lower than the fees
in surrounding private stables, and she wondered if any of the
staff people at the meeting knew what those fees might be.
Mr. Zaner said he did not have the fees with him, but "would have
no problem with postponement.
Councilmember Witherspoon said the City had done a study about
six months ago, and although the City's fees seemed very low at
the time, when the service was compared, people have to go and
feed their horses and got minimal service. She said they were
probably lower, but on the other hand, people had to do, a lot of
their own work-.
Councilmember Renzel said that in conjunction with the item, in
touring the property, she observed that much of the property was
badly overgrazed. If people were responsible for feeding their
own ho►ses, maybe they were not being fed enough.
AMENDMENT: Councilmember Renzel moved, seconded by, Fletcher,
that staff look into grazing policy on the land.
Larry Faber, 3127 David Avenue, said that regarding the observa-
tion that parts were overgrazed, there were a great many parts
that were under gr azed. He would like to see more of it grazed.
He said it would cut down on the fire hazard considerably, and a
lot of grazing land for that area was needed. He thought the
problem was that the orders had been given to retain status quo,
and not make any changes, and he thought that if some horses were,
shifted to other property, a little fencing would have , to be.
done, and the City might have to put in a small- water piping to
get some watering troughs, but it might solve that problem. He
supported the continuance, and his personal opinion was that the
City's rates were where they ought to be right now. If the City
felt.: it needed more income to support the property, open more of
it to grazing ° land and put a few more head in. The land . could
support a lot more horses than it had.
Vice Mayor Fletcher said she was puzzled because the original
recommendation was to raise the fees, that an increase was justi-
fied. She did not know how it tied in with the study of the
Arastra land ' and why there was an advantage to holding up the
raising of the fees.
Mt. Zaner said that the original study - related fees to the faci l..
ities provided, and the trails and items that were there for
people who . had horses. While the analysis Was being done, the
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ultimate disposition of the property was unknown.
Vice Mayor Fletcher asked if it was the study on the 77 acres.
Mr. Zaner said it was the study on the use of: the= Arastra prop-
erty in total. He said staff had an assignment which was still
outstanding to come back to Council with a ling -range plan for
the ultimate use of the Arastra property as open space.
Mayor Henderson said he thought it would be a long time before
the adoption of a policy and changes were made. He was not sure
why the fee schedule did not proceed at this time.
Mr. Zaner said he thought staff had originally based their entire
recommendation to the Council with regard to fees :on. the kinds of
facilities and programs being provided on the property. He said
those had not changed, and unless some changes were made, there
was no rationale, other than keeping up with the competition, for
changing the City's fees. If the Council wished to do that and
stay "competitive," the fees could be raised. The facilities had
not changed any, and once the analysis was done and staff reports
back to Council and says, "these are the kinds of facilities we
propose to provide, and they are worth the following money," at
that time Council could make the change in fees.
MOTION TO CONTINUE PASSED by a vote of 6-2, Renzel, Henderson
voting "no," Levy absent.
MOTION TO STUDY GRAZING PASSED unanimously, Levy absent.
COUNCIL MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 8
MOTION: Mayor. Henderson moved, seconded by Fazzino, to cancel
regular meeting of September 8 and set Special Executive Session
re City Attorney search on the 8th.
MOTION PASSED unanimously, Levy absent.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 9:50 p.m.
ATTEST:
APPROVED: