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Oral Communications
Special Orders of the Day
Resolution of Appreciation to, Outgoing
Members of the Rental Housing Mediation
Task Force
Consent Calendar - Referral
Consent Calendar Action
Parking District "Ad Valorem" Assessment Rate
1981-82 - California Avenue
Ordinance 3296 re Fixing an Assessment for
Fiscal Year 1981-82 for California Avenue
District Offstreet Parking Project No. 60-8
Ordinance 32 7 re Fixing an Assessment for
Fiscal Year 1981-82 for California Avenue
Offstreet Parking Project No. 55-5
Routine Gas Rate Tracking Increase.
Resolution 5951 re Amending Utility Rate
Schedules G-1 and G-50
Community Development Block Grant Plan
Resolution 5952 re Approving the Community
Development Block Grant Plan
Roofing Services - Award of Contract
Home Weatherization Program - Award of
Contract
Newsprint Recycling Program Award of
Contract
Final Subdivision Map.- 100-130 Ferne'_Ave.
renal Subdivision Map 3700 El Camino Real
Planning Commission Recommends Approval
of Application of Lee and Fan. Architecture
and Planning for Site and Design Revew of
Single 'Family Residence.at 820 Los Trancos.Road
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Regular Meeting
Monday, August 17, 1981
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ITEM
Public Hearing: Planning Commission
Recommends Denial of Application of Barbara
Turner for Approval of Tentative Subdivision
Map for Property at 350-360 Hawthorne Ave,
and 351, 357 Bryant Court (Continued from
7/27/81 meeting)
Public Hearing: Weed Abatement Charges
Resolution 5953 Confirming Weed Abatement
Report and Ordering Cost of Abatement to be
Special Assessment of Respective Properties
Herein Described
Finance and Public Works Committee Recommends
Approval of Award of Contract for Water -Gas -Sewer
Training Needs Assessment
Planning Commission Recommends City Council
Initiate a Change of Comprehensive Plan
For Certain Single -Family Residential
Properties. on College Avenue
Cultural Center Pa- lo and Sidewalk Repair -
Award of Contract
Vice Mayor Fletcher re Turner Application,
350-360 Hawthorne
Bay Conservation Development Commission
Dredging Permit
Request of Mayor Henderson re invitation
of Request
City of Oaxaca. to Attend 450th
Anniversary Celebrations - April 25, 1982
Request of Vice Mayor Fletcher re East Palo
Alto's Incorporation
Request of Councilmembers Eyerly, Fletcher
Henderson, Klein, Witherspoon re Additional
Arastra Study
Adjournment
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Regular Meeting
Monday, August 17, 1981
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The City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on this date in
the Council Chambers at City Hall, 250 Hamilton Avenue, at 7:35
p.m.
PRESENT:
Bechtel, Eyerly, Fletcher.: Henderson,
Renzel, Witherspoon (arrived at ;8:15 p.m.)
ABSENT: Fazzino, Klein, Levy
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
SPECIAL ORDERS OF THE DAY
RESOLUTION OF' APPRECIATION TO OUTGOING MEMBERS OF. THE RENTAL
HOUSING
Mayor Vender son said that Mr. Burk Bloom, Mr. Doug Couch, Ms.
Patricia Trumble and Ms. Ruth Lacy had served and coipieted their
terms.
MOTION, Vice Mayor Fletcher introduced the following resolution
and moved, seconded by Bechtel, its arproval.
RESOLUTION 5950 entitled 'AESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PATO ALTO COMMENDING MEMBERS OF THE RENTAL
HOUSING MEDIATION TASK FORCE FOR THEIR CONSCIENTIOUS
AND OUTSTANDING PUBLIC SERVICE"
MOTION PASSED unanimously, Levy, Fazzino, Klein, Witherspoon
absent,
CONSENT CALENDAR
Referral
None
Action
MOTION: -:Vice Mayor Fletcher moved, seconded by Eyerly, approval
of the cdnsent calendar,
PARKING DISTRICT "AD VALOREM"
ASSESSMENT- RATE 1981-82 -
ORDINANCE 3296 entitled ''ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF : PALO ALTO FIXING AN ASSESSMENT' FOR FISCAL
YEAR 1981-82 FOR THE: CALIFORNIA AVENUE DISTRICT
OFFSTREET PARKING PROJECT. NO. 60-8"
ORDINANCE 3297 entitled "ORDINANCE OF THE COUNCIL OF
Thr CflY OF PALO. ALTO FIXING AN ASSESSMENT FOR FISCAL
YEAR, 1991-82 FOR THE CALIFORNIA AVENUE OFFSTREET
PARkINC PROJECT NO 55.5"
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ROUTINE GAS RATE TRACKING INCREASE (CMR:390:1)
RESOLUTION 5951 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALO ALTO AMENDING UTILITY RATE SCHEDULES
G-1 AND G-50 AS A RESULT OF TRACKING PG&E GAS RATE
CHANGES"
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PLAN (CMR:394:1)
RESOLUTION 5952 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALO ALTO APPROVING THE. COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PLAN"
ROOFING SERVICES=- AWARD OF CONTRACT (CMR:381:1)
Staff recommends that Council award the contract to Casto
Roofing Inc., and authorize the Mayor to execute the contract.
AGREEMENT - ROOFING SERVICES
Casto Roofing, Inc.
HOME WEATHERIZATION PROGRAM - AWARD OF CONTRACT (CMR:379:1)
Staff recommends that Council authorize the Mayor to execute the
contract with Associated Roofing and Insulation for cellulose
work.
AGREEMENT - THERMAL INSULATION
Associated Roofing and Insulation Company
NEWSPRINT RECYCLING PROGRAM =AWARD OF CONTRACT (CMR:403:1)
Staff recommends that Council approve the proposAd contract with
the Community Association for the Retarded for the promotion of
newsprint recycling and .participation in the Public Awareness
Program, to be retroactive from July 1, 1981 through June 30,
1983.
AGREEMENT - NEWSPRINT RECYCLING PROGRAM
Community Association for the Retarded
FINAL SUBDIVISION MAP
100-130 FERNS AVENUE (CMR:40?:1)
Staff recommends that the City Council approve the final map.
FINAL SUBDIVISION MAP - 3700 EL CAMINO REAL (CMR:401:1)
Staff recommends that the City Council approve the final neap with
the condition that the alley is to be improved, including land-
scaping if possible, by the developer and that prior to issuance
of a building permit, approvals must be obtained from the Archi-
tectural Review Board for the revised landscape plan and from the
City Engineer for the resurfacing plan.
PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF = THE
►PPLICATIDN i . LEE AND -1"A
MOTION PASSED to approve consent calendar unanimously, Fazzino,
Klein, Levy, Witherspoon absent.
PUBLIC HEARING: PLANNING- COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS
(CMR:364:1
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Planning Commission Chairman Fred. Nichols commented that in the
Planning Commission's consideration of subdivisions, they must
find that the subdivision was- consistent with the zoning ordi-
nance, anu consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. He said that
because most subdivision applications were made for parcels
already zoned for multiple -family units, consistency with the
zoning ordinance was not difficult to show. Consistency with,the
Comprehensive Plan was not so simply shown especially because
policies in one element often conflict with policies in another,
and the policies must be balanced An each instance where con-
flicts exist. He said that generally great importance was given
to those policies of the housing element that call for increasing
housing opportunities and that most subdivisions responded to
those goals. He said that when -a subdivision promised only a
very modest gain in units while at the same time contradicted
other important policies of the Comprehensive Plan, they had to
really balance the development. That was the balance considered
on the application. t The requested Planning Commission action was
six modest cost rental units in a distinctive neighborhood,
replace with.eight presumably high cost units of a character dif-
ferent from the rest of the immediate neighborhood. He said it
Contradicted at least four policies that the Commission found in
the Comprehensive Plan.- Policy 2, "To preserve older, single-
family houses, small apartment buildings" Policy 3, "To protect
and enhance those qualities which make Palo Alto's neighborhoods
especially desirable";Policy 8, "To maintain at least the pies
ent'number of multiple -family rental units";.and Policy 10, "To
foster the provision of some new and existing units disbursed
throughout the City for ownership and rental by households of low
and moderate income." The Planning Commission concluded that the
modest gain of two, presumably expensive units did not offset the
reduction of affordable rental units nor did it offset the change
in quality of that particular neighborhood and, therefore, the
Commission unanimously recommended that the Council deny the
application.
Mayor. Henderson declared the public hearing open.
Ginny Lee, 357 Bryant Court, Palo Alto, said she was opposed to
Barbara 'Turner's application. She pointed out that the Planning
Commission chose to regard the social policies of the Comprehen-
sive Plan as viable guidelines for determining the direction that
Palo Alto should take in developing its housing. She said that
paying serious attention to such social policies was a potent
means of maintaining Palo Alto as the unique community that it
was. She felt it was important to remember that the character of
Palo Alto's neighborhoods was a major issue and that it not be
lost. For example, she said that Barbara Turner had recently
offered to help all of the current tenants in, the property with
financial assistance it relocating although her offer seemed to
miss acouple of points. 1) Help in relocating was hardly useful
if the town in which one chose to live was being stripped of ren-
tal units, but more importantly, Ms. Turner's offer missed the
major point that the concern was not simply a question of per-
sonal inconvenience, but of the future of the neighborhood and
other ones .like it. in Palo Alto. Ms. Lee a believed that the Palo
Alto housing policy which called for protecting and enhancing
qualities which made Palo Alto's neighborhoods desirable should
be supported and, that was the main reason the tenants ere at the
meeting, and why `wthey were joined and supported by so many of the
neighbors. She said that -`:unlike other cases, it was,not an issue
they felt could be =resolved simply- by helping to relocate ten-
ants. It was a question of, whether to alter seriously the char.
acter of a desirable neighborhood . by destroying property for no
good reason._ 2) Regarding the condition of the property, she
said that Barbara Turner had a building inspection performed on
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the property in question which found that there were some repairs
which were needed to the property. She said that any property -as
old as those buildings were certainly in need some kind of
repair, but that did not -mean that one should tear down the prop-
erties: She pointed out that the building inspection that was
made did not reveal the buildings to be unsafe in any way, ten-
ants were in no eminent danger from unsafe conditions in the
dwellings, there was no reason to believe that the property
needed to be removed as unsafe. That argument simply was not a
sound one. Had that inspection made it possible to make such
claims, she was sure they would have -been put forth to the
Council. It simply was not the case that the buildings were a
danger to the tenants. Additionally, Ms. Lee said that. Several
of the Councilmembers had taken the time and interest to visit
the site and walked through the units and had seen the condition
of the dwellings themselves and they could. see the tenants'
reasons for being so -vehemently opposed to the idea of destrcyiny
such housing and thereby altering such a neighborhood for condo-
minium development. As Councilmembers, they. were in a unique
position of authority and responsibility to influence the direc-
tion that housing development would take in Palo Alto, and she
urged the Council to exercise their strength and good judgment in
support of the 'policies in the Comprehensive Plan calling for a
socially responsible housing position by accepting the recommen-
dation of -the Planning Commission and denying the application.
Mrs, Richard Smith, 468 Westridge Drive, owner of the properties
at Hawthorne and Bryant Court, sa i J that over the years they. had
owned the property, they were proud of the properties, and tried
to keep them up as best as possible. She said selling was not a
fast decision on their part. They started planning to sell ,bout
three years ago when there were health problems with a member of
their family and knew that their family had to change its direc-
tion. At that time, she said she started to pursue what could be
done. I) They had low loans on the properties which were due
January and February. The reason they had been able to keep the
rents low was because they had low loans. She said when she
refinanced, or if .they kept the prop and refinanced it, she
thought --everyone was aware o.f what the market was. The rents
would have to go up, the property would not stay "low income
housing." She said they were even feeling it now because if they.
had a plumber out, it cost $4.00--$49 an hour plus the labor.
Mrs. Smith said they looked into keeping the properties with` the
leap. 2) The second alternative was to sell the buildings indi-
vidually. She said that walking, through the properties would not
show someone what was behind_ the walls. Unfortunately, she said
she had gotten in -there with a crow bar and -took down some -of the
sand and plaster walls and . had exposette beams. From termite
reports, in the front of 350 Hawthorne the foundation had tracked
all across the front of the porch, the dry wood termites had _gone
all up the front of the house, and into the attic. The house was
literally being held -together. by whatever was still standing.
She indicated the chimney was pulling away from: the house, it was -
not the easiest thing to replace. -:On the other 'houses one of the
major pr obl erns _was: the gat, water and sewer_ lines which went
through froni Hawthorne to Bryant Court. The tines were under the
foundation- as much as she could tell Of the houses there. She
-said that just before she bought the property-, which was a little
more, than ten years ago, there was a gas leak that _ went through
to .357 :Bryant Court. where Cinny Lee was. She sajdetthe previous
owner got someone in there and tried to patch as best he could. -
So far there had been no trouble with the gas lines there, but
last year when the.)v had problems, they "replaced the .electrical
system-in,that buii.ding with the idea that if, the gas went out
they .could not bring it in. She said she had talked: to plumbers
about water lines -because 351: Bryant Court had the water lines
row showing'a little pressure, which_ most people probably knew
the lines were being filled-up_,wi.th "gunk." She did not .know how
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they could replace those lines, because they went underneath the
foundations or down driveways. The garages were tandum together
behind 350- Hawthorne and 351 Bryant Court and which sat .on.
nothing but dirt and they were against the property line. She
said at one tine they had been drilled through by someone to the
other side and she_did not think they would stand very long. The
foundations were cracking, and would probably not stand very much
longer, as some of the other older buildings had, for a long
time. They had put new roofs on, they did not have new electri-
cal service, there were problems if someone with new electrical
appliances came in that the service would probably have to be
upgraded. With the recent problems, they did not feel they could
handle it. and if she soidl the properties separately, which was
the next alternative, and she would have to do sb_ if the subdivi-
sion did not go through, then she was passing on the problems to
someone else. Ctrs. Smith indicated she was in the real estate
business, and saw young people buying older houses, but not
knowing what they were getting into. She said if one were to
call the Building Department to come in to one of those houses,
they would "throw the book at you." It was very expensive to
maintain old property. Their next choice was to contact other
people, other builders, either joint venture er whatever, and
they contacted several builders- who had built individual type
units that were in keeping with the City's preference for indi-
vidual homes. She had contacted the builder that had built on
Valpariso, but he. felt the site did not have enough land. Most
of the people she contacted wanted to go in for a use .permit or
whatever and put as many units as pass i bi a on the property, which
she felt was not plausible, She believed that character of the
neighborhood was such that it should stay more families, more
people lived in that area because it was close to the railroad
and within walking distance of downtown, and maybe not' so many
cars were needed. She said presently there was one person per
unit and there was not enough parking available for _ two people in
a unit. e If you figure, one person per unit, that was not really
as many people as they had in the town, and if you went into a
larger unit, you coefd furnish some rooms for families and per
person it might be less money than if' you kept one in a unit like
that or they had to pay what the going r:.nt was. Mrs. Smith •
_wanted to see something_ there that was like a house, and the
closest to that would be condominiums —something ng that would have
par k:i ng -that would get the cars off the streets, which was one of
the problems, with preserving light and air, and not allowing a
very high structure, and still being able to accommodate families
because 'those were the —kinds of developments lost., When her
family had lived -.in Palo Alto, and she was retired from the
School District after teaching, she regretted greatly that the
children were leaving, and that they were not here. - Perhaps if
there were sore units cl-oser to town, where children could walk,
to school, walk teethe park, walk to downtown, it -Might help.
She asked the Council to review again the ideas-, and if,.they did,
she would shtiow the Counci,htiembers the problems with the present
e_ .structures. There wer several problems.,' i.e.- old fans, -plaster
--holes in the ceilings, termites cracking, shifting foundations,
and problems with the plumbing.
Ceunc i lme:nber Eyer ly said that the zoning on :.the property had
been pM-2 for ;.the last five -er six years, and asked Ms. Smith
what the zonirej was the five years previous to that, and what the
zoning was when she purchased the property.
Ms. Smith responded that. ,it
erty.
when she bought . the prop -
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Counci lmember Eyer ly asked if 350 and 351 was all one lot or had
it been subdivided.
Ms. Smith responded that 350 was one lot, and 351 behind it was a
separate lot which was that way when she purchased the property.
The other side was all one lot.
Vice Mayor Fletcher asked Ms. Smith if she had any restrictions
against renting to children.
Ms. Smith said that she had never had restrictions. She said
that when she bought the property, there was a lady living there
who lived there until she was 91.
Jon Parsons, 356 Hawthorne, said he was opposed to the applica-
tion for a permit to tear down the residences and construct con-
dominiums at the site. - He appreciated that the City Council
might be hesitant to impose restrictions 'on the use of land on.
private property, but felt that the City, by its very being, and
the Council, restricted the use of , what was basically private
personal property. He thought everyone would agree that when
they were talking about the' use of increasingly scarce resources,
they must control the use of the resources for the benefit of the
greater community. In fact, he had noticed in the Palo Alto
Weekly, that the applicant had used the same type of argument as
those who were speaking in opposition were putting forth. In
other words, there was something to be said for the nature of a
-community —something more important than development per see -that
you must look to the community before it was decided what ought
to be built. He said the applicant's arguments were directed
against the construction of a convalescent facility. Even though
it was a separate topic, he pointed out that viable considera-
tions were being argued tonight which should be brought to bear.
The Planning Colmission decision was unanimous. In an effort to
get a feel for the community, a few citizens took a couple of
weekends and walked around the neighborhood with a petition, and
in a couple of afternoons of foot work, they were able to get
over 160 signatures ofe people in the community who agreed with
the Planning Commission's denial of the permit, and the neighbors
felt that they did ;not want condominiums built in that area.
They felt that the Planning Commission had made a correct deci-
sion. The citizens felt, as they signed, that the City Council -
should affir t the Panning Commission's decision. A concern of
the citizens .who had been tenants there for many years were also
the concerns of Ms. Smith. Mr. Parsons felt that Ms. Smith was
an exerrp i ary landlady, and he felt her concerns meant something.
He was confident that Ms. Smith could solve the personal problems
by selling the properties. He pointed out that the condition of
the property, did not warrant, in and of_ itself, the granting of a
permit. He felt the parking problem was nonexistent. He was the
.only_ per son who -did not have offstreet parking. He was the only
'person who had to park in. that area, =and in the past five ar six
years, he only had 'to park once about 35 feet from the lot. M.
?arsons said he .alw`ays parked right —in front. He requested that
Council address_ the immediate- definite issues of the permit a5
opposed to- being side- tracked oyewhat may or may not happen ain
the future dependent upon, this, that or the other thing hap-
pening.
John Hanna; Attorney at Law, 525 University ,Avenue' representing
Barbara. Turner, the developer of the project, said the project
would have ;an underground garage. There would be individual:
stairs from the garage up to each unit. Each unit would have a
private yard and a private patio. There would be sixteen parking,
spaces in the garage. The staff -.report stated that the proposal
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was consistent with the Comprehensive Plan, the environmental
impact study resulted in a negative declaration, it complied with
the zoning,,, it had ARS approval, and the Subdivision Map Act
findings had been recommended by the staff. Although he was not
present at the Planning Commission meeting, he had seen the
transcript of that portion of .,the hearing where the Planning
Commissioners made their remarks about the project. He struggled
with what each of the Commissioners had to say and could make
very little sense out of it. He said that the transcript he had
seen indicated that the Planning Commission felt that there were
three policies that were not complied with, and a fourth one had
been mentioned tonight. He said that Policy No. 2 had dealt with
the preservation of sin+.le-family residential and particularly
older homes in Palo Alto. None of the homes were on the Histori-
cal -Preservation list. Old homes eventually had to be replaced,
they wore out. He said that these homes were undistinguished,
architecturally. He said he did not think that anyone could make
.an argument that it added anything to the City to retain deterio-
rating housing. If one were to accept the -argument that What was
built in the past .should always be with us, we would all be
living in log cabins today. He thought that Ms. Smith had indi-
cated that a condominium presented probably the best.alternative
to meeting Policy 2 which was to preserve old homes and small
apartment buildings in the downtown area. A condominium develop-
ment bridged that gap in the best way that could possibly be done
to meet what .he perceived to be a reasonable interpretation of
the spirit .-and intent of Policy No.' 2. The condition of the
housing had already been referred to in some detail by Ms. Smith,
and he presumed that the Council had seen in their packet the
report of George S. Sarno, who inspected the property. The sum-
mary of Mr. Sarno's findings included that repairs would require
major expenditures, i.e. the deteriorated foundations, defective
floor supports, floor supports of insufficient size to carry
imposed loads of a safety, retaining walls buckling, fireplaces
and chimneys defective and deteriorating and pulling away from
walls, girders overspanned and sagging, roof rafters overspanned,
roof sagging, etc. Obviously, if those properties twere to be
aetained as viable rental units for sometime to come, there would
have to be major repairs to them. He said that in brief, the
houses were tired, old and sagging and it was time for them to be
replaced with something more in keeping with the times.
Mr, Hanna said that Policy No. 3 had to do with protecting and
enhan ing the qualities, which made Palo Alto desirable. He
thought that was what was being proposed --attractive,
welt -designed housing, . adequate parking, space -to live
privacy. All of that i n place o some rather tired old -homes he
thought was in -accordance with Policy No. 3. He did not think it
wouti. be reasonably argued otherwise.
Mr. Hanna said that Policy No. 8 was to rnai ntai n at least the
present rentals. He- said that there were currently six -rental
units, but a choice _between six and, eight was not really being
offered because. as was indicated by the -owner,, if the proposal
was not accepted, -the would sell. -What .that meant was that she
would end up with probably =one rental. unit. Someone would buy
the house A i ve i r:.that, someone ."would buy the Small house, 1 i ve
in that, and someone might buy the other small': house,,_and rent
the cottage,- and the City would end up with ,one rental unit and
the, rest of them :owned. e If..the eight co-rdominium_ un_tis were
developed, there was a study that -.showed that 30%- of new condo-
miniums ended up as. rentasl s -. wh ct was a conservative figure.
That meant that the City, would get- at :least two, possibly three
rentals on the aver -age out of_. the. eight, so' the. City would no_t be
losing six rental unit$, . probably two- would be picked"..up. -He
said these were reaji'stt alternatives, not imaginary.
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Mr. Hanna said that Policy 10, regarding low and moderate income
housing, was taken out of the hands of Ms. Smith and: anyone that
mijht acquire her property when the property .was down -zoned,
which was a decision made by the City to limit the number of
units that could be built on the project. He said down -zoning
increased the cost of the land which increased the expense of the
units which could be built and sold. Certainly, any one of a
number of developers would love to have had - the property when
thirty _units could have been built on it and would find that the
cost of the housing would be considerably less than what was now
being proposed In summary, he said there were now six units
totalling approximately': 5,000 square feet, housing six single
adults, which would be replaced with eight units totaling 15,000
square feet housing sixteen adults and assorted children. There
was an exchange -of six existing parking spaces for sixteen new
spaces. Based at today's realistic market rates, the rental on
those houses, if they were fixed up and brought to today's rate
would be approximately 80 cents per square foot. One single
adult at approximately 80 cents per square foot could be housed
if one were to apply market rates to that housing. He suggested
comparing that with a rate of 83 cents per square foot for two
adults, plus one or more children; what- -was being proposed made
good sense from the standpoint of furnishing housing on an econo-
mic_ -basis where it was badly needed. The truth was that if the
Council wanted to find something in the Comprehensive Plan to
knock. or oppose a project, they could find anything in there if
they looked hard enough. He said it was sort of like the Bibl e ,
you could find anything you want on almost any issue, but he
thoEight that a reasonable interpretation of those policies would
indicate that this project complied and met all of those poi ides
as well as anyone could possibly expect it to. He said Ms. Smith
did not add that there were no elderly being displaced, her ten-
ants were all relatively young, professional people like Mr.
Parsons, an attorney. Finally, he said that right now citizens
in -the Bay Area were facing the worst housing crunch they had
ever seen. He did not think this was any time to deny the pro-
posal to construct housing which met, as far as he could see, all
the relevant criteria. He said that the way the system was sup-
posed to work was that this -place would get built, and there were
eight families that Would move in, which left eight vacancies
somewhere else for others to occupy.
WI THERSPOON ARRIVED A1' 8:15 .m.
Mr. Hanna :aid that what had really happened was that instead of
allowing the process 4o occur naturally, artificial controls had
been placed. "e had stood in the Council Chambers when, for
exarnple, someone came in and asked to build 24 homes out on
Manuel a, and the Council turned it down because of the same kind
of public pressure that was happening tonight, and what happened
was that now there were two churches there. He said he was also
there the night Mr. Medear i s asked to build 12 units on Hawthorne.
when,'because of the same kind of public pressure, the Council
turned hire' down, and he was now building six. He , said ` i t was
this same type of thing being 'repeated over and over again that
was the major cause -of the shortage and the scarcity of housing
in the area and the reason why Palo Alto came out on a recent
list as one of the most costly places in the country on a square
foot basis to own housing. The Council had an opportunity to do
something tonight to help reverse that trend because approving
eight units was a step in the .: right direction, and he _ hoped
Council See see that .and approve the project.
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Iry Brenner, 250 Byron, said he thought there were two issues:
1) the impact of the project on the neighborhood; and 2) the
depletion of rental units in Palo Alto. He said that the factors
relating to_the project's negative impact on the neighborhood and
total inconsistency with the Comprehensive Plan were convincingly
presented to the Planning Commission. He pointed out that were
the project to proceed, it was likely that many other homes in
the area would eventually be destroyed since the character of the
neighborhood as defined by the Comprehensive Plan will have been
irrevocably changed. Further demolition of the homes would
literally be a "push over" for developers. Mr. Hanna had spoken
about the housing shortage in Palo Alto, and Mr. Brenner said he
had done some research and discovered that with regard to the
rental stock depletion issue,_ in -Palo Alto there was hardly a
dire shortage of condominiums for sale. Referring to the corrent
realtors ,multiple listing, 74 units were for sale, 27 of which
were in the immediate neighborhood of the proposed development,
and not counting other condo construction in the area. In addi-
tion, the California Avenue project and ,Oak Creek conversion shed
a new light on the City's housing needs, and should keep the mar-
ket saturated for a long tiMe to come. Buyers were not exactly
beating down doors to purchase the available units,.many of which
had been on the .market for months, and according to some real
estate people, would be on the market for many more months. He
said that the project was insignificant -in terms of adding
housing units to the market, that is, it would provide a net gain
of two. ' On the other hand, one observed the number of people
frantically buying newspapers hot off the presses in a desperate
rush to find an available rental room in Palo Alto. He said a
true rental crisis did exist. Por every rental house torn down,
people who work and study in Palo Alto were literally being
driven out of town, that is, where they once walked or biked to
work, they nowmust drive. This was especially true in the down-
town area. If the homes on the property were to remain in tact
and they were ultimately sold, it was possible that, they, would
leave the rental marketplace, but at least the neighborhood~ char-
acter would be retained. and no net change would take place. How-
ever, Mr `. 'irenner said they were ideally configured for rental
and would most likely remain as rentals. He said that the two
houses were split into convenient rental units. Comparing rental
units to condo units did not make sense in terms of available
units, the real issue was that a person looking for rentals was
doing so not because he could not afford high rents, but because
he could not not come up with the large downpayment to purchase.
Mr. Brenner thought there were plenty of -people around that were
willing to pay :4700 - $500 for -a rental unit, but could not come
up with $30,000 or $50,000 Cash. Certainly low rent housing was
needed, but there was a °larger issue involved. He asked Ms.
Smith and Mr. Hanna what condition an older .home must -be in to
merit preservation. eOid,termite damage, cracked foundations, or
settled chimneys mandate destruction because it was the most cost
effective; option? Virtually eery olden house including Mr.
Brenner' s, was thus so afflicted, and it and most others' in Palo
Alto would be' leveled according to that criterion. Was the only
.criterion for preservation in Palo Alto that the house have the
ni star i cal qualities of- .the_ Downing Molise?: He hoped not because
in that event Palo: Alto would someday -consist' of a hand fu1 l- of
Downing Houses and the rest 'condominiums He pointed out that
the tenants hired rbuilding inspector- of their own, who
inspected - the- homes. and confirmed that .there were cr ack5 in the
foundat.i on,- that there was -termi.te damage, and that the ch t tney
was settling, and he said they were completely- safe and would
probably --be standing -50 year s from now.
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Katherine Abu-Romia, 525 Hawthorne, said that she moved in a few
years ago to what was once an old sagging house, and they worked
very hard to make it livable. She said her house was so sagging
that all the toys rolled to one corner of the house, but they
picked it up, and worked on it, and it is a beautiful place. She
said they chose the neighborhood because of .the way-it Was, the
little ladies who still spoke Russian, students, and all the dif-
ferent kinds of people, if all the old houses were torn down,
everyone was going to be the same, and it wouldn't he the place
that they chose to live in. She hoped the neighborhood stayed
the way it was.
Mayor Henderson declared the public hearing closed.
Vice Mayor Fletcher responded to some of the arguments made on
behalf of the applicant that there would•.be more rentals if the
application were granted because of: the average of the rentals
produced by condominiums, by saying_that it was stretching things
a little far to say that if the prese-pt units were to remain,
they would not be rentals any longer . As far as the costs, tif
there were an equal number of rentals in the condominiums, there
was no comparison with the cost of the present units even if they
were sold and refinanced and the rents increased substantially,
it would not compare at all with 'the rentals in condominiums.
She knew because she lived in a condominium development, which
was not of the high priced nature that the one in question was.
She said she thought the rents started from $625 per month. Any-
thing built new would be substantially more than that in rent
She said there was concern that if there were condom ni urns, that
there would be housing for children. . She said that to her
horror, :she had discovered that many condominium CC&fit' s had pro
visions against children, So she thought there was at least an
equal chance that children would be housed in the present -units,
than there would be in a condominium development.
Vice Mayor Fletcher said there was also the argument that there
would be more rental housing for low and moderate income families
in the proposed condominiums. She said that was the first she
had heard that this particular applicant had any concern for
housing low and moderate income families. Vice Mayor Fletcher
said Ms. Turner had gone to such great lengths to divide her pro-
ject into two phases so. as to avoid the requirement for one below
market unit for developments of ten or more' units, so those con-
cerns were not genuine. There were some repairs to be made, but
she did not hear that each of the six units had termite damage,
or that all the foundations were sagging, and she thought that
the houses, from her layman's point of view, had a good many more
years before they reached the stage where they might not be use-
ful anymore. At this particular point, she felt there was much
more of a need for rectal housing. They were about to lose ten
percent of the rental units in the City, which was a substantial
amount. She did not feel that chipping away rental units in this
instance : was justified because they were not gaining a substan-
tial number of new units plus the fact that the units would be
considerably more expensive to line in. She felt that these par-
ticular units served a very great need at this point, and they
were not in a condition that they did not serve a useful pur-
pose.
MOTION: Vice Mayor Fletcher, moved, seconded by Renzel , to uphold
the Planning Commission recommendation to deny the application, -
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Mayor Henderson asked the City Attorney if it would take four
votes to uphold the recommendation.
City Attorney Don Maynor said the Council would need four votes
(a majority of those present) for an approval or a denial.
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Councilmember Witherspoon said she felt that this was one of
those seemingly ordinary Planning Commission items that came to
the Council from time to time with some controversies from the
neighbors, and she thought that this one was a watershed for a
landmark case. She sympathized entirely with wanting to keep the
old buildings and the old homes in the downtown area, she thought
it was one eof the charms of that neighborhood, and she sympa-
thized with those who felt that they could be fixed up because
everyone knew -of houses in town that had been in a lot worse
shape and then fixed up, but she did not think that was the
issue. She said that as she saw this, what they had was a prop-
erty owner who has the zoning to do what she wished to do, and
was not asking the Council for any favors or .variances. Essen-
tially, it should be a eery routine kind of a thing. What hap-
pened was that they were denied, not on the basis of the fact
that they did not conform with the zoning, Or that they were
asking for favors and did not agree t� any conditions the
Planning Commission Wished to impose on them, but the fact was
that the Planning Commission, as far as she was concerned, for
the first time .ever, denied the application on the basis only of
its nonconformance to certain policies and programs in the text
of the Comnprehens i ve Plan. She thought that was the landmark
part of the situation, and she was very uncomfortable with that.
She said she had always assumed that the zoning on her property
was i t , and if she wanted to do something else and wanted a vari-
ance, she would go in and the programs and policies in the
Comprehensive Plan were not only there to explain the land .use
policies that were in the zoning ordinance and map, but they were
also to set the philisophical direction of the City, but they
would not come into play unless she was trying to get a ' rezon i ng
on,. get something extraordinary done to her land that affected the
zoning, and she was in effect -asking for a favor., She said this
was the first time she was aware of that the policies and pro-
grams had been put ahead of the zoning map. While she sensed it
was a popular cause tonight, she was very uncomfortable because
on another night are: another occasion and another issue, a prece-
dent would be set. She could not go along with it because she
felt the property owner had her rights in this case and that as
long as they were not asking for any favor, the Council could
only go alOng with what the zoning on the property was. She said
there was not really a case that could -be be made very strongly in
either direction. Councilmember Witherspoon said it could not be
said that they were adding a lot of units, because, there were
only two net gain units, it could not be said that the properties
would be kept as rental- because the property owner saki that they
would like to see them and if they could not see them as a parcel
to Mr,s? Turner, they would sell them separately,: -etionones would
pay that kind of price for rental proper,t-ies so they would hope-
fully be bought, and fixed up into, single-famnily homes, Again,
they would not, be rental units. She felt chapter and verse
throughout . the Comprehensi ve -Plan .could be -quoted, any program or
policy, cquld be argued- on either side of the case, and she. found
them very shakey - reas.ons for turning the proposal -down, and she
would- vote against the motion-.
Councilmember Bechtel said at first she agreed with Councilmember
Witherspoon, but as she read threugh.the Comprehensive Plan, and
as she analyzed the Planning Commission minutes, she concluded
that there were not too many policies that this was in opposition
to. She said she believed that the o1dr-r homes must be pre-
served. She said these were called "older," they were 50-5.5
years old. She said she lived in a so-called "older" home and
she did not :think they. were ready to throw away the "older"
homes. She felt they should get away from the "through away''
society concept. She questioned the number of people per unit
that were suggested as might be living in the proposed condo-
miniums. She doubted that there would be 2, 3, 4 families in
those condominiums, and she felt that the Planning staff could
probably give a better idea that' there were . frequently one, or at
most two, people that purchased a lot of the condominiums. ,She
did not believe there were sufficient mitigating measures to War-
rant .granting the tentative subdivision map and she would support
and uphold the Planning Commission recommendation.
Councilmember Eyeriy said that the staff report talked about the
State Map Act and listed four conditions upon which a City shall
deny approval of a tentative or final subdivision. map and none of
the conditions were with the request for na condorniniurn and a sub-
division map. He asked what the legality was of the State Map
Act?
City Attorney Don Maynor said that the denial was based upon con-
sistency with the Comprehensive Plan, which was stated in the
Subdivision Map Act. He said that was clearly permitted under
State law, so that the policies as stated in the City's Compre-
hensive Plan could be used as a basis for denial if the proposed
project was inconsistent with those policies.
Councilmember Eyerly said that the property rights of the owner
also needed to be considered.. If the Council upheld the Planning
Commission's recommendation, they would strip away the right
which the property owner presumably had under the zoning and Com-
prehensive Plan to build condominiums so it would leave therm with
two options: I) sell the property, subdivide it for people to
live in or to rent; or 2) to sell it or build on it themselves
for new rental units. He said he did not know if the Planning
Commission had thought about that, there had not been any rental
units built in Palo Alto for sometime, and it did not seem to be
a healthy market, but he wondered about what the feelings of the
Planning Commission would be if the developer were to request
building permits -to build for rental units. He said that if the
Comprehensive Plan policies that were chosen to stand on were to
be upheld, that two of them would be destroyed immediately --
preservation of older homes for rentals, (the new homes would
have to be for higher priced renter s,) and preserve the lower
income housing. Those two policies would go down the drain. It
seemed to him that they were at cross issues as to what was
trying to be done. If the Planning Commission recommendation
were upheld, they would actually be stripping everything from the
owner and the developer, and there would be really nothing they
could do except sell the property, and maybe the next person
could figure out some way to make a return on the investment. He
thought it was a weak condition for the Council to put themselves
in. He did not think there had been very many test cases on.
Comprehensive Plan'_ law or challenges to Comprehensive Plans yet
within the State, buts it made him very nervous -to see the limited
options that a property' owner" hadz when they were not asking for -
any variances, or any changes The comments that had been made
by Councilmember Witherspoon were substantial, and he could not
vote for this type of recommendation. Councilmember Eyerly said
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they were debating the issue with six councilmembers present, and
three absent. He was not interested in having a continuation of
a public hearing, but wondered whether it was fair to all parties
involved to make a decision tonight with such a limited number of
councilmembers.
Mayor Henderson said he had a problem with the Council going'
until the point where the votes were about to be taken- and then
deciding to continue. He felt that if.that had been the issue,
they should have continued it at the beginning. He said a motion
could be made to continue before the vote was taken. He was not
sure about, the timing requirements.
Mr. Hanna said that on behalf of the applicant, -he agreed with
'Councilmember Eyerly's assessment of the attendance, and -in view
of what the City Attorney said, they asked that -the matter be
continued until is could be heard by a full Council. He added
that if this were a . court of law, he would ask that the remark
'concerning some other project be stricken from the .record because
he thought it was unfair .and uncalled for . He was talking about
the remark of a councilmember about some other project that was
not before the Council tonight..
Mr. Maynor said he felt that was a correct warning, that the fact
that the developer had submitted another project should be dis-
regarded. He did not believe there was anything on the record
that would suggest what her motives were for having two pro-
jects.
MOTION: Councilmember Eyerly moved to continue in view of the
request of Mr. Hanna and his own statements,
Mr. Maynor said that he wanted to make it clear that it was not
necessary that it be continued as a matter of law, that the
Council had the ability to take action.
MOTION TO CONTINUE FAILED for lack of a second.
Councilmember Renzel said that her way of looking at this was
that it was a subdivision application and when an applicant came
to the Council looking for a subdivision, the Council did indeed
have criterion on which they were to evaluate subdivisions. One
of those criteria was its conformance with the Comprehensive Plan
and admittedly, the Comprehensive Plan had a wide variety of
policies and programs in it, including the land use map, which
governs the City's zoning, but she did not think that automa-
tically made it the only and sole criteria on which the Council
would evaluate a subdivision. She thought what had to be done
then was to balance what the results were in the overall view of
the Comprehensive Plan in terms of granting a subdivision. She
said that in this instance there already was a subdivision on the
land, it was a subdivision that was a standard City block sub-
division, the owner could sell the properties jointly or sev-
erally, the owner could develop them jointly or severally. She
said the owner was asked for a dlfferent subdivision on the land
which did suggest that the property would be developed in a way
that she felt was inconsistent with a number of other programs
and policies in the Comprehensive, Plan beyond ,just the zoning
ordinance, but the'.'e was often site and design review and other
kinds of cr i ter i o;i that governed developments . beyond= just the
straight zoning. She thought that in this instance, it should be.
recognized that there was a decision to be made, it was not some-
thing that was automatic, or a vested right, it was something
that had to be decided was in conformance with the Comprehensive
Plan. or at least on balance, conformed with the Comprehensive
Plan and she did. not feel this did. She would support the
Planning Commission recommendation to deny the application.
Mayor Henderson commented that if the Council was to approve the
appl icatior; because the structures had deteriorated and should be
replaced, then nearly all of the single-family homes north of
downtown should be torn down, and hundreds of structures else-
where in town. He did not believe that was a valid reason.
Secondly, he said that the true shortage and need for -housing in
Palo Alto was the very type that was being jeopardized here.
People who could afford $250,000 condominiums and $400,000 homes
had a pretty substantial market in Palo Alto at the moment. He
thought Councilmember Witherspoon raised good points, but the
Council had a different and difficult situation north of down-
town.. He said they wanted to retain a mix of multiple unit
dwellings and single-family dwellings. He said it was not
possible to zone each lot in the area individually, that they had
to go with a basic concept of mixed zoning in the area --
basically high density near the -commercial area, and then
decreasing density as .you move closer to the Creek, but because
of the existing mix, they had to turn to the Comprehensive Plan
when they looked at individual situations. That had been done
before in that area. In doing so in this case, he relied . upon
the following two policies: "Maintain at least the present
number of multiple -family rental unit." He said the City would
lose six rental units and gain eight condominium units of which,
according tte statistics, three might be rented. He did not think
it was likely that the four buildings --on the site would be sold
individually for ownership housing. Having looked at those
units, he did not expect to see that, but he could not guess.
Possibly the entire property would be sold, and the rents then
would be increased, but certainly they would not ae increased to
the point that condominium rents would be if any of the condo-
minium units would be rented. He believed that a decision
against the development and in favor of the Planning Commission
recommendation did speak to the Comprehensive Plan policy of
"Maintaining at least the present number of multiple -family
rental units." The other policy, "To protect and enhance those
qualities which make Palo Alto's neighborhoods especially
desirable," Mayor Henderson thought the project would cause a
drastic change in the character of the neighborhood. He said
there were no condominiums or apartments in that immediate area,
and he thought that it would quite likely be a first step for
further condominium development on that particular block. For
Wise reasons, he supported .the motion to uphold- the planning
Co"mmission recommendation.
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Counc i lmember Witherspoon :wanted to reiterate that she was very:.,
uncomfortable with doing that. She said that the Comprehensive
P 1 an eras big enough and complex enough that on any project, at
least two Comprehensive Plan programs or policies could be found
that a project would violate. She thought it was very shay ey
grounds ..on which to deny something that would nornally be
approved. She. felt that if the Council felt that they wanted two
keep that neighborhood in the condition it was in now with the
wonderful mix of old hones and some ' aiar tments and small condo=
miniurn units, then the `property should be downzoned again. She
did not, think they could -go -along piecemeal turning_ people down
because there were one or two -- Comprehensive Plan p"ol ivies that
were `Violated.: In her opi ni.on, it had never been done --before,,.
and she hated- to see the Council --start doing it now.
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MOTION TO DENY THE APPLICATION PASSED by a vote of 4-2, Eyerly
and Witherspoon voting'"no," Fazzino, Klein, Levy absent.
PUBLIC HEARING: WEED ABATEMENT CHARGES
(CMR:391:1)
Mayor Henderson read the following:
"This is the time and place set for a public hearing on the
resolution for charges levied for weed abatement on private
property under the agreement with Santa Clara County.
"Let the record show that notice for this hearing has been given
in the time, manner, and form provided in Chapter 8.08 of the
Pali) Alto.Municipal Code.
Tanner have you received any written objections`"
City Clerk Ann Tanner said she had not.
Mayor Henderson asked if anyone wished to be heard on this
matter, and opened the public hearing.
Clifford M. Johnson, Santa Clara County Fire Marshall .thanked
the City Council for their cooperation during the past year . He
said there were 170 notices sent out within the City of Palo
Alto, the Fire Marshall's office cleared 106 of those, the
remainder were cleared by the property owner. He said they had
received no written communications from any of the constituents
regarding problems. -
Mayor Henderson declared the public hearing closed. He said:.
"Let the record show that no persons appeared or filed written
objections against these charges for weed abatement performed in
accordance with the Municipal Code, and under the agreement for
administration of weed abatement entered into between the City of
Palo Alto and Santa Clara County, and that any resolution passed
by the Council on this matter will reflect this finding."
MOTION: Councilmember Witherspoon' introduced the, following
resolution and moved, seconded by Renzel its approval.`
RESOLUTION 5953 entitled "RESOLUTION OF THE COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF PALO ALTO CONFIRMING WEED ABATEMENT REPORT
AND ORDERING COST OF ABATEMENT TO BE A SPECIAL
ASSESSMENT OF THE RESPECTIVE_. PROPERTIES HEREIN
DESCRIBED"
MOTION PASSED unanimously, Fazzino, Klein, Levy absent.
Fire Marshall Johnson said- his- secretary had brought to his
attention that the problem of raising the administrative fee from
35% to 45% might be taken up this evening.
Mayor Henderson said it had to be handled through staff, and
would not be an item for -the -Council to discuss tonight.
FINANCE AND PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE UNANIMOUSLY- RECOMMENDS
APPROV U Ii . 7TH€ .AWA' D b CUNTRACT - FIB WATER-GAs- srwrR ITA1 t1Nt
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Councilmember Bechtel for the Finance and Public Works Committee
said that the matter was originally" on the Consent. Calendar,
Councilmember Eyerly had asked that it be continued, and it was
brought to the Committee. The Committee discussed the
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possibility of continuing it to another Committee meeting since
Councilmember Eyerly could not attend the Committee meeting, but
when they were assured that it would be coming back, to the full
Council, it was felt that if Councilmember Eyerly still --had ques-
tions, he might be able to raise them. She said essentially the
matter was budgeted in the 1980-81 budget, it was now being
implemented, and she thought the total figure was in the range of
$19,000 and it was for some evaluation of training procedures in
the Water -Gas -Sewer utility.
MOTION: Councilmember Bechtel for the Finance and Public Works
Committee moved approval of the following contract.
AGREEMENT - WATER -GAS -SEWER TRAINING NEEDS ASSESSMENT
Gilbert Associates, Inc.
Councilmember Eyer l y said -he was sorry he was not at the Finance
and Public Works Committee meeting, but he was away as City
laision to NCPA. He would have much preferred to have discussed
the items he wanted to talk about at the Committee level rather
than at the Council level, but he thought it was just as well
that the full Council heard his concerns. He said that the trend
he had seen in the last year and one-half was to increase bud-
geting for outside consultants, and he was not happy with some of
the reguests.from staff for outside consultants, which he thought
the staff knew. He said it was easy for this type of philosophy
to be developed within the staff because he knew they were all
busy, and the outside.-consultahts gladly handled some of the
extra work. This was not a large contract, the City had had a
couple of large ones, and he mentioned one that was for $100,000
for counting trees in the City. The Finance Committee talked it
out with the staff, and came down with a recommendation for an
added staff member and a little bit slower inventory, and he
thought that was a good approach. The other big contract he was
thinking of was the study on the Arastra property, he did not
think the context of what the consultant was asked to-do do really
got to the problems that the Council wanted to face, and he
thought a lot of motley had been wasted on that. He did not like
to see that. The particular request was only around $15.,O00,
which had been mentioned, but when one looked at what they were
asking the consultant to do, i:t was really hard._ for him to
believe that the department could not handle it.' He Wished Ed
Aghjayan were at the Council meeting because he was the one to
delegate the responsibilities. He said there was never a staff
-member that ever said there was time to do extra, work because
they had full time as-si gnments, but the policy of g'etti ng a con-
sultant to do the work instead of easing up something el -se or
becoming more efficient, was something that was very hard for him
to accept. The work plan on page 2 of the staff report. indicated
to hire that --current staff members should .be able to do the work.
He wanted more 'input than what came out at the '.Committee
meeting:
Fred Looper, Water -Gas -Sewer, said that what they were looking
for was an audit of the water -gas -sewer operations, some training
assessments and other needs at the same time. He said they were
looking for someone from outside to come in and take a look at
the City's full operation in an objective manner in a way that
possibly staff could not do
Counci lrnember Eyerly said it seemed to him that on a small con-
sultant's contract, such as this, it would take a lo_ t of staff
time to, get information to hirri No matter howfamiliar the con-
sultant was with utility work, he would have to .learn about this
particular department. He said they were talking -about $15,000,
and how much staff time would be allocated to the consultant to
get him up to where he could to it.
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Mr. Looper said the staff time allocated would be for probably no
more than one work week or 40 person hours for about six people.
Councilmember Eyerly said he was not convinced as to why they had
to go outside. He had been told it was because they did not have
the expertise on the staff, but he did not think it was very com-
plicated..
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Mr. Looper said that as he had mentioned , before, they were
looking for any objective audit of their operation as it was run
now, and to see what they would have to do in the future for
their full utility operation.
Councilmember Eyerly said he was not convinced and would vote
against it. He could not believe that the department was not
capable -of running this type of study and assessment in an
audit.
City Manager Bill laner said that first, there was little ques-
tion that the need -was there to do this type of an audit. He
thought everyone agreed that they needed to look at all of their
operations, and water -gas -sewer was no exception. The question
as, to whether or not they could do it internally was a matter 'of
time and expertise. If City personnel were assigned to the task,
they would have to take people off of already assigned responsi-
bilities. Second, there were some portions of the study they
wanted the consultant to look at that they did not have the full
capability of.doing ourselves, consequently, they would prefer to
use a consultant-. He said the cost was not tremendously high --in
order to use City staff, they would probably consume that much
time and effort internally trying to put the study together. Mr.
Zaner felt that the consultant was the quickest way to go to give
staff the objective data they were looking for.
Councilmember Bechtel said that in earlier Finance Committee
meetings, they had. discussed the value and importance of indepen-
dent and outside audits, and she felt that was all the more
reason to vote for the consultant. It was not very expensive and
would give an objective opinion and bring in someone new to. look
at how the operation was being run.
Mayor Henderson commented that there were times when an ou>'t de
objective person should be brought in to look at ar' internal
operation especially if there were problems with that operation.
He recollected .some years ago when the Council established -a
regular program for outside audits in terms of looking at differ-
ent --departments and different operations within departments.' He
said a number of them were done and they were quite beneficial,
he especially remembered the ones done in the Police Department
and the Public -Works Department. It had been kind of drifted
away from. He felt that where- there was -a recognized need, it
would be beneficial to ,.bring in someone with ,an objective look
who could perhaps straighten out something that had been a pr"ob-
lem for a while.
MOTION FARED:by a lack of 4-2, Eyerly and Renzel voting "no,"
Fazzino, Klein, Levy absent.
Mayor Henderson asked if after the vote was taken, could the item
be continued, or could it be reconsidered-.
Mr. Raynor said someone from the prevailing side could bring it
up at the next meeting with a majority of the Council's
approval
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PLANNING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL
TNI T I ATE- A CHARM -E OF CL M P R't ATN S TVE FLAN FUR OE RTA I N S I NU E -F A lT1
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The request of the Planning Commission is that the City Council
initiate a study of this area to determine whether a change in
land use designation should be made to preserve existing single
family homes on parcels now designated as Multiple -Family. If
the Council believes that such a study is in order, the Council
should adopt a motion directing the Planning Commission to set a
public hearing to recommend appropriate land uses for single
family parcels along College Avenue.
The staff recommendation is that the land use designations for
the area be maintained as they are. It is the opinion of staff
that the 1976 Comprehensive Plan :considered the area in detail
and that the existing land use designations accomplish the dual
objectives of making a smooth transition between commercial and
residential uses and also of preserving single family uses where
appropriate.
Chairman of the Planning Commission Fred Nichols said that the
Planning Commission had reviewed the request for a change of the
Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map for 350 College Avenue for a por-
tion of the R-2 that protrudes out into the RM--4. What struck
,cabers of the Commission was the ragged border between the
single and multiple family zones. The property at 350 College
Avenue that was under consideration by the Commission, shared
common boundaries on both sides with multiple family as well as
fr ,rued :on properties zoned multiple family. The present R-2
zoning for that property seemed to most Commissioners appropriate
only if the single family use properties across the street
remained in that same family use. He said it then occurred to
the Commission that whereas several of the policies of the
Comprehensive Plan required that single family use be maintained
where possible, they should look to the possibility of.main-
taining those existing single-family units on College Avenue.
The Commission continued the plan ni p change request for 350
College Avenue until such time as the Council could direct the
Commission about the possibility of preservation of the remaining
single family units along College Avenue, which was why it was
before the Council.
Chief Planning Official Bruce Freeland clarified the issues
involved. He said that when the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map
was set out in 1976, there were several objectives that were
being played in the area. One was to preserve the single-family
homes and another was to make a transition between the commercial
uses in the Cambridge/California Avenue area, and the single-
family uses from Oxford over to the west. At that .time, there
was an attempt made to preserve single-family homes whenever they
were contiguous to a large block of- single-family homes. The
reason that the single-family homes across from 350 College were
not designated as single-fami`.y in the land use map was because
they immediately abutted the commercial uses that came off of
Cambridge and most of them did not have single-family uses
directly across the street from them on College as, well. The
thought was that they were essentially cut off from the bulk of
the single-family neighborhood by the multiple-family residences
and they did make a _ transition to the commercial uses along
Cambridge. He said that was -the logic behind the designation,
and that the point the Planning Commission was raising was a
question of whether that was entirely consistent logic, and
whether that was a large enough grouping of single-family homes
in and of itself to warrant preservation of those single-family
homes
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Councilmember Witherspoon said she thought that was the way the
problem should be .approached, and should have been approached in
the earlier project. She said that since staff now seemed to be
involving all of the Comprehensive Plan programs and policies,
and the zoning map when reviewing neighborhoods, if, in staff's
opin;:ion,_ it would' be - appropriate to go back to the Hawthorne
Avenue area and look again at the single family uses there, and
if it was in fact the City's intention to keep both single family
use -s, that it also be put in the zoning as well as in the pro-
grams and policies?
Mr. Freeland responded that if Councilmember Witherspoon thought
there were many situations like the one that came up on the pre-
vious application, then_ it might be worth having another look at
it. He thought there was a considerable difference because in
that case, the existing land use and the land use in the zoning
and the Comprehensive Plan were all the same, they were all mule
t i pl e family at about the highest density allowed both under the
zoning and the Comprehensive Plan. In this case, he said there
was a difference between individual single family homes on separ-
ate lots and the multiple family designation of the area, so that
he felt the issue was somewhat different..
Councilmember Witherspoon said she was not quite clear, as a
policy of the Planning Commission and/or the Council as to
whether they were more interested in keeping the character of the
neighborhood, which meant keeping the building, or in keeping the
single-family use. She suspected that in most cases, when people
said keep the _character of the neighborhood, they meant keep the
building, but_ that they were not fussy about how many units as
long as they were legal, in which case, she did not know whether
either plan would preserve the old ._bui?dings. She asked if the
tiny cottages were typical of that neighborhood.
Mr. hFreeland said they were fair y small older dwellings and
appeared to be in very fine condition.
Councilmember Renzel said that having dealt .with thee Comprehen-
sive Plan some years back, she did not recall that this particu-
lar neighborhood had been looked at in depth. She knew the
Commission had looked at the Land Use Map, and changes on the map
where there were significant changes from the previous land use.
She said that while staff attempted very closely to follow the
criterion of looking at existing land use -and also following the
general criterion of moving from high density near commercial dam
t� lower density away from commercial, that that particular
street appeared to: present a special circumstance that had some
significant number of R-1 or. single-family dwellings immediately
over the back fence from a commercial zoning._ Also, over the
back fence.of the opposite side -of the street were more single-
family dwellings and she was not sure that they had thought it
through_ or hach a sense = of the neighborhood, It seemed to her
that perhaps both sides of the street provided a more ,consistent
zoning envelope than whole blocks because -when you r e - i n a neigh-
borhood, you would perceive both sides of the, street and not what
is over the back -fence.. Co'u,nci lmember Renzel said in that par
ticular neighborhood, they had h.ao'significant=-traffic questions
raised in recent tinres,- and -very difficult. -and thorny ones to
Solve. She thought there might be some merit ii? looking at the
area with the thought of determining what was appropriate there.
She supported the Planning Commi s5i on acrd their desire -to look at
,t're' :area ,because she knew that:. when the entire Lano- Use Map ;was
redone, coup l ed with a. br and `new zoning or d i nancethat would-. be
applied, there were marry' things- to look at and they were unable
to put equite the detailed review onto every single little
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parcel, so there were situations like this that may have been
done differently had they been able to go through the entire town
--parcel by parcel and look at them.
MOTION: Councilmember Renzel moved, seconded by Bechtel-, to
adopt the Planning Commission recommendation.
Mr. Freeland said that from the point of view of .the Comprehen-
sive Plan, R-2 was considered single-family. He thought it was
possible that at least one of -those single-family structures did
have a second unit within it.
Counci lmernber Renzel said it would be sufficient in her mind for
the City Council to initiate a study of that area to consider a
change in land use designation and then leave it open to see what
carne out of the study.
Plana" -,n Commissioner Pat Cullen, 409 Melville Avenue, said she
was ab, ;ant at the Planning Commmission meeting when this item _.was
considered, but she did do the field work acid she urged the
Council to support the Planning Commission recommendation that
the area be looked at again. She thought that when the zoning
went in in 1976, a lot went in at the end on a kind of blanket
"whateve-r---was there and worked was what it should be" and when
this particular item came up, they started to look at that area
and it was a nice residential area and that had a lot of single
family and she thought that what was there should not be
destroyed by allowing high --density multiple family zoning to con-
tinue.
Councilmernber Bechtel said she would support the motion with the
understanding that Council was not adopting the more specific
Planning Commission recommendation, but was in fact adopting a
more general motion which would ask the Planning Commission to
look at the area again. She thought that had real value,
Mayor Henderson said the zoning along the south side of College
Avenue responded very accurately to the Council's policy to place
higher density residential zoning adjacent to commercial areas,
and then reduce the density as you move away from the commercial
area. He agreed with staff that the RM-4 should be retained on
the south side of College Avenue He said that area did not have
the mix that the area north of downtown► had where they ran into
the problem with higher density deve'apments scattered all
through the area. This one went down uniformly except that there
were some tingle family hones in the RM-4 zoning. He said that
the feeling along the street as one drove down it was basically
multiple unit dwellings. The feeling on - ewthorne, as a con-
trast, as one went .- :down that block wa1, the single-family
dwellings. fie thought. There was a distinct difference and that
this one followed the i nte,nti on of the Planning Commission and
the Council at the time .the —Comprehensive Plan was developed, He
would vote no, and would then feel that the property at 350
College Avenue should be looked at on its own as to €rer it of
rezoniftg that. parcel to RM-4 Or whatever.
Vice Mayor Fletcher said she was having difficulty. -with the deci-
sion because- ,as she went by- and looked at 350 -College, it looked
out:of mace being a single-family home, -So-basing the study on
-that one particular parcel bothered ,het. She -said it gave the
indication that the Council intended to keep that particular par-
cel single family residential and -she dia not feel that alias
justified in thiseinttOcet On the other hand, —she had had no
problem with looking -tat the -specific neighborhood. She intended
to support the motion,
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Councilmember Eyerly supported Mayor Henderson's statement that
the zoning as it was now, with the higher density for .the lots
back up against Cambridge was proper, but he was willing to., vote
so that the Planning Commission could reanalyze it and at the
same time, it would give him a chance to take a little closer
scrutiny of it. He did not expect that anything would surface so
that he would vote favorably for rezoning when that came up, but
he would go along with the study.
MOTION PASSED by a vote of 5-1, Henderson voting "no," Fazzino,
Klein and Levy absent.
CULTURAL CENTER PATIO AND SIDEWALK REPAIR AWARD OF CONTRACT
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It is recommended that:
1) Council approve the budget amendment ordinance in the amount
of. $22,500 for CIP. 80-03.
2) The Mayor be . authorized to execute a contract for the
Cultural Center Patio Repairs with Ambo Concrete, Inc. for a
base bid of $42,935.
3) Staff be- authorized to execute change orders to the construc-
tion contract -of up to $4,555.
Councilmerber Witherspoon asked staff if ,it was essential to have
concrete since the heating of the- roots would conti nue as the
plants continue to grow and they would have -the problem con-
tinuously. She asked if there was perhaps another. paving surface
that would not be so vulnerable.
Director of Public Works Dave Adams said staff had considered
several things. One was the idea of putting a gravel surface in
there - and because it would get tracked into the building because
of- the type of use it had, that was rejected as not being
practical. - He said they would be putting In a surface than• was
not exactly as it currently was constructed. It ►could be indi-
vidual stones.
Councilmember Witherspoon said it did not look like there was any
hope of reducing the price.
Mr. Adams said that was correct. When the project was first
looked at for budgetary purposes a couple of years ago, it was
felt that the patio could simply be reconstructed in its present
configuration and when all of the restrictions -involved were
looked at,:including the significant drainage problem which was
the current problem, it proved to be impossible, and with all of
the restrictions, staff ended up with that :type of detail con-
struction that was not envisioned with the budget.
Courcilmernber Witherspoon clarified that what they were left with
was to be kept within $47,500, they were just going . to do the
patio and not the outside sidewalk.
Mr. Adams said the outside sidewalk would be done in 'a different
manner, and it would be done solely for correction of safety
problems. It would, be done as part, of the sidewalk maintenance
program.
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Councilmember Bechtel asked if it was possible to put wood
decking over the existing concrete so that the tree roots would
be able to continue to do their bulging underneath and not be
damaged by the potential work?
Mr. Adams said, that was examined as one of the possible alterna-
tives that was rejected. He said the maintenance involved in
that would be quite a bit, and the cost of the redwood decking
was not priced completely out, but it was felt that that was not
acceptable for the use of the patio area
Councilmember Bechtel said that what concerned her the most was
that there were a number of very unique and valuable plants in
that area, and she knew the type of work they were describing
could do extensive damage to those plants if it was not done very
careful ly-.
Mr. Adams said that was correct and was precisely why the cost
was so high. He said that another item in the budget estimate,
was that some of those plants could not be simply removed end
replaced, and, therefore, the costs were up quite a bit.
MOTION: Mayor Henderson moved, . seconded by Fletcher, that the
Council approve the budget amendment i.n the amount of $22,500,
and that the Mayor be authorized to execute the contract with
Arnbo Concrete, Inc. and that the staff be authorized to execute
change orders to the construction concrete of up to $4,465.
MOTION PASSED to approve the contract by a vote of 5-1,
Witherspoon voting "no," Fazzino, Klein and Levy absent.
Mr. Maynor said he iook-ed back at the Administrative Code and it
did indicate that in tie situations there could be a motion to
continue. He said a motion to continue would be appropriate in
his opinion. .
Mayor Henderson asked . i.f the City Manager could put the item back
on the agenda, since six votes were needed for the budget ordi-
nance,
MOTIONI:. Mayor Henderson moved, seconded by Bechtel , to continue
the entire matter for one week.
Councilmember Witherspoon said that if the item was to be con-
tinued, she would be interested to know, if it would not.be -too
time-consuming, to have staff pursee. briefly Councilmember
Bechtel's suggestion. She thought that could be the solution to
the problem. She could not understand why the decking would be
an inappropriate use for a patio, she thought it would be very
pleasant.
AMENDMENT: Councilmember Eyerly moved, seconded by Witherspoon,
that the staff cost out and include a wood - decking option for
next week;
Mayor Henderson asked staff if that would be possible.
Mr. Adams said that it may be possible. but that there were other
considerations concerning desirability, For example, the gravel
would probably be the cheapest solution, but that was rejected
because it was not desirable. He hoped that Council would want
staff to report back on the desirability as well as cost.
AMENDMENT PASSED by a vote of 6-0, Klein, Fazzino, Levy absent.
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MOTION TO CONTINUE AS AMENDED PASSED by a vote of 6-0, Fazzino,
Klein, Levy absent.
VICE MAYOR FLETCHER RE TURNER APPLICATION 350-360 HAWTHORNE
Vice Mayor Fletcher said that regarding Agenda Item 11, the
Public Hearing for the application of Barbara Turner for. approval
of a tentative subdivision map for property at 350-360 Hawthorne
Avenue, she wanted to make it clear that she did not base her
vote on the comment regarding another application by the same
applicant. She was merely responding to comments made by a
member of the public. Her decision was based on the need for
moderate priced .rental housing and that in turn was based on
policies in the Comprehensive Plan.
City Attorney Don Maynor added that staff would prepare findings
with regard to the Turner condominium application for Council's
approval in the neap future.
RLCESS FROM 9:30 .m. to 9:45 p.m.
BAY CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION
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DREDGING
PERMIT-
MOTIONe Councilmember Witherspoon roved, seconded by Eye.r.ly, -to
-authorize staff to apply .to BCDC -for co -applicant status on the
two permit provisions outlined in CMR:409:1.
Councilmember Renzel said she was concerned that within the
Baylands Master Plan there were . a number. of amendments rrrade and
changes at the Council level which were not reflected in the
printed document which Council had, and rather than to have a
record ox what was in the Baylands Master Plan that consisted of
minutes of the Master Plane and a variety, of documents, she said
that in the Master Plan there was h nguage on Page 67 that spoke
,
to restoring approximately four ac es of va?ht Harbor Point to
marsh and map 3-15 depicted that and- al so had an ambiguous center
blob that also looked like marsh. She. thought clarification
should be made that the Master Plan-- improvements had spoke of
including a picnic area and a minimum of four acre;: of marsh
restoration.
AMENDMENT: Councilmember Renzel moved, seconded. by Bechtel,
under #2, 1st Paragraph, Staff Report (CMR:409:1) add: "The
improvements to Yacht Harbor Point called for in the adopted
Baylands Master Plan, including but not limited to public access,
and a minimum of 4 acres of marsh restoration will be accom-
plished,..".. and mention date of adoption of .plan "plan as of
today - 8/17/81."
City Manager Bill Zaner commented that in talking with BCDC they
discussed what portions of what parts of the Kaster Plan they
would want to see completed and not completed. Their position
was that they did not want to include i.n their conditions any
specifics athout what the City of Paio Alto City Council might
want to do with its Master`. Plan. They were only concerned with
including language that said "City of Palo Alta is responsible
for doing the improvements in accordance with its Master Plan,".
and they preferred not to list out whether that included, lagoons:
or mer sh area or picnic area ;or whatever for fear that they might
omit some or put some : in that the Co`unci 1- had not agreed to.
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Councilmember Renzel explained that her amendment said,
"including but not limited to" a picnic area and a minimum of
four acres of marsh restoration, and that would leave the flexi-
bility for any other aspects of. the Master Plan that may not be
encompassed by a picnic area and marsh restoration, but would
make it clear that at least those two were. fairly clearly
depicted in the plan. She thought it would be appropriate to
include them as part of the City's agreement.
Mayor__ Henderson asked Councilmember Renzel why she felt the need
to specify exactly what it would be as long as it was a require-
ment that the City would have to develop it in accordance with
the Master Plan as the City wanted. Why did BCDC need to be told
specifically so many acres of this, etc.
Councilmember Renzel said it was not that the picnic tables had
to be in a specific area, but the Master Plan was wide-ranging
and the major focus of it was dump cover And a variety of other
things, and there were a number of meetings held at which various
amendments and attempts at amendments were made and all of the
actions had not been consolidated into a single document or map.
It would require :considerable effort for anyone to pin down
entirely what the schedule for anything in the Baylands was with-
out going through a significant number of documents, and she was
concerned about the Marsh Restoration on Yacht Habor Point. She
said that the entire 11 acres was formerly marsh and it seemed to
her it was an appropriate plan to try and restore some of that
ultimately. She wanted it clear that that was what was in the
plan now, and sometime down the road, whenever it took place, it
would be very clear that that was what the intent was and what
the condition was.
Mr. Zaner said condition 2E was the wording that the BCDC staff
recommended, and it indicated that "within ten years the City of
Palo Alto shall complete the improvements of approximately 11
acres known as Yacht Harbor Point as called for in the adopted
Palo Alto Baylands Master P1an." .:,\ He thought that was a pretty
all encompassing statement and included the four acres, any
picnic areas-, and any other improvements that might be done to
the Yacht Harbor and indicated that the City would .be expected to
complete all the improvements on the, 11 acre piece.
Councilmember Renzel said she agreed with the idea that the
developments for Yacht Harbor Point be completed, but thought
that it was entirely possible that the plan could be amended
between now and then, and it was possible that some of the -docu
raents which clarified exactly what the Council's action was with
respect to the document could be lost by five years from now, :and
it would be ten years since the adoption of the Plan and she
thought it was important for the Council to be specific.
Mr. Zaner said ,that was precisely BCDC's point, that what they
wanted to -- do was not impose upon the City the requirement to do
-any specific improvement at the Yacht Harbor Point. What they
wanted to do was assure that whatever the Council decided with
regard to Yacht Harbor Point would be done within ten years.
They wanted to give the ;ouncil the flexibility to do whatever it
was the Master Plan said, with regard to Yacht Harbor -Point with -
.out being specific. and nailing the Council down _.to individual
items.
Mayor Henderson said he had a hard time tying it into a specific
existing plan which could never be amended.
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Councilmember Bechtel said that when you think that the 11 acres
was at one point all marsh, to :set aside a minimum of four acres
for marsh restoration was not that much. She thought it was
reasonable to vote for the amendment.
John F. Walker-, 19375 Greenwood Circle, Cupertino, said he was in
favor of the recommendation and thought it was important to
recognize that the agreement between the BCDC and the City of
Palo Alto enhanced a move made by the City of Palo Alto some time
ago. He said that the City and the Council had said they would
have a harbor that was being dredged for five years. He thought
it was interesting to find that the Master Plan was still so
ambiguous, he thought it was a fairly firm and cast in concrete
document. He urged the Council to vote to go along with what the
BCDC wanted.. He said they had spent a great deal of time in
dealing with BCOC and that it was the sort of thing that needed
to be done. He pointed out that the harbor as it once existed
was a sea port. He had a read document recently that showed the
history of the area and he said it was interesting to find that
that land, referred to as'former marsh, was once a deep water
port, there was 15 feet of water at low tide -in that harbor. He
did not know that the Master Plan was so loose in its construc-
tion, but he did know that when you tied anything in to a defi-
nite number, you generally washed yourself up well.
Herb Borock, 3401 Ross Road, said he was the coordinator of the
Baylands Conservation Committee. He distributed to the Council a
copy of BCDC's staff memo dated August 14, which was on file in
the City Clerk's Office, showing the language that the BCDC staff
proposed to recommend to the Commission for the next meeting. He
said that on the second condition, there was a difference between
the wording in that condition and the way it was summarized in
the City's staff memo of August 13. He said the City staff memo
noted that the berth, docks, and pilings must be removed -within
30 months after the expiration of the lease. The condition that
first went to BCDC said six months after the expiration of the
lease, `instead of 30 months. He asked Council to note on the
BCC memo that it was 30 months from the termination of the last
dredging. He thought it should be clear that if the City was
going to agree to make the City a co -applicant that it would be
with the conditions .that the BCDC staff had drafted unless
Council wished to amend them. Mr. Borock recommended an amend-
ment to. solve some of the concerns which had been expressed that
on Condition #2E add, wording, "as of this da _k ." so that there
would be a fixed date to which specific wordine in the Baylands
Master Plan refereed so that the Council would not have to be
concerned about changes to the Plan after that date. He had
attended both of the BCDC meetir'gs at , which the permit app_l ica-
tion was discussed, and the .Commissioners were concerned about
r estor i ng the marsh and Yacht Harbor Point. He thought the BCDC
would be receptive to any kinds of suggestions such as specific
area. Mr. Borock said there were Commissioners who did not want
to Assue the permit at all. _He said there.. was an attempt to
delete both conditions which were before the Council now giving
the -County the responsibility to implement them. The County had
said that they could not go ahead with the permit with .those con-
ditions in them becakse they felt it was the ,City's responsi-
bility. He indicated that a mot.ion_to restore the two -conditions
passed on= a 13-4 vote, and that 13 votes were needed to -issue a:
permit. He thought that ` BCDC. was very strong about having hose_
conditions included. 8y. making the City:a co -applicant for -the
permit, it would bind the City to do those' things. it did not
mean that a future City :Council could somehow change its mind,
He felt it should be clear that that was what was happening, _and
if the City had any concerns about that, then the -Council should
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find out from staff just what obligations the City had once it
signed off a permit application with those conditions attached.
Florence LaRiviere, 453 Tennessee Lane, Palo Alto, on behalf of
the Board of Directors of the Santa Clara Valley Audobon Society,
said there was' only one certain .way to prevent further title
marsh destruction in the Baylands, and that was to vote no on any
further dredging right now. At the Bay Conservation and
Development Commission meeting on August 6, one experienced
Commissioner -had recommended that the life of the harbor be
limited to the time considered reasonable for boat relocation
which he stated was probably six to nine months. She said they
were unanimously dedicated to the restoration of marsh that was
lost because of spoiled dumping during the last 20 years when
there was no excuse for it i.e., the Yacht Harbor Point, Monday
Marsh and the 11 acres of unused fill at the airport. Since
opportunities for salt marsh restoration around the Bay were
limited, they recommended that the Council explore with BCDC the
designation of the projects as mitigation for loss of marsh else-
where ire the Bay. Mrs. LaRiviere said that the benefits which
might be derived therefrom included both technical expertise and
financial assistance which would materially reduce the cost to
the City.
Vice Mayor. Fletcher said she was not quite ready to go as far as
the picnic tables, but she thought that Mr. Sorock's suggestion
might address the problem in a more comprehensive way. She sug-
gested amending wherever there was reference to the Baylands
Master Plan by adding a date, such as the Baylands Master Plan
adopted whenever it was adopted,
Councilme€nber Renzel read from Page 67 of the Master Plan as pro-
posed. Under the category of mitigation measures proposed to
minimize adverse impacts, "Restoration to salt marsh of parts of
Yacht Harbor Point. The 11 acre Yacht Harbor Point, now used for
temporary disposal and drying of dredged spoils. from the Harbor
was once a salt marsh. The Master Play! proe e that approxi-
mately four acres of the dried spoils be removed for use as cover
material in the disposal area. This would restore about one-
third of Yacht Harbor Point to salt marsh. Restorati-un should be
fairly rapid due to direct contact with the Bay. It is proposed
that this n+arsh restoration begin immediately whether or not the
Harbor continues to be dredged." She said that was the language
from the Plan and obviously by agreeing to this condition as part
of the BCDC permit -application, they would be postponing what the
Master Plan suggested as immediate _pursuit of the goal. She
pointed out that the hydraulogist in some of -the earlier Master
Plan studies made a very good case for the improved channel
scouring if there were some marsh restoration on .Yacht Harbor
Point, so if there were some marsh restoration there, the marsh
itself would trap a l,ot of the filth that now went into the
channel and she thought that if the ultimate goal was to continue
to provide for small boats to sail, it would be a_worthwhile
cause - to go forward with marsh restoration .as soon as. 'possible.
She thought the , l anguage was there,. _,and felt that it pointed out
that the councilnembers were concerned that that -particular
aspect of the Master Plan for Yacht Harbor Point be implemented.
Mayor Henderson -said he wa.s comfortable wi-th the amendment.
Councilrnernber Witherspoon asked where d nuary 1, 1992 fit in?
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Councilmember Fenzel said that was what BCDC had in their condi-
tion for completion. She said that if they were going to use the
material on the dump, it would have to be used by the► also.
AMENDMENT PASSED by a vote of 5-1, Eyerly voting "no," Fazzino,
Klein, Levy absent.
Councilmember Bechtel said that she wanted to be sure that what
they were voting on was the actual two conditions as presented to
them tonight noting that condition 2G was slightly different in
tinning from that which staff outlined, rather than it being
within 30 months of the last dredging performed as opposed to 30
months after the expiration of - the lease.
Mr. Zaner said there was that difference, and asked the Council
to consider using the condition contained in the staff report,
that is, make it 30 months from the end of the lease. That way,
the City would not get tied in the timing of dredging and when
the dredging was complete.
Councilmember Renzel said she thought the real concern would be
if somehow the dredging ceased earlier, if the operation with the
Santa Cruz dredge turned out to -have problems or whatever and the
dredging ended in two years, the City would not be responsible
for doing anything about the docks unti 1 some years after the
lease expired whereas if they followed the BCDC condition, it
would then make it 30 months after the dredging.
Mr. Zaner said the dredging was not under the City control. They
did not know when the last dredging would be and they would have
to depend upon another party to tell them when the last dredging
would be. If that dredging did not take place for some reason,
and the lease expired, then the thirty months would have run from
the previous dredging, and the City would be under a great deal
of pressure to move the pilings and the docks out of the harbor.
He said that was why, when• they originally talked to BCDC, staff
suggested that the County tie it down to a very specific date, at
the conclusion of the lease when the County was required to turn
over the entire Harbor to the City in good condition, the City
had thirty months from then after which they must have the
material removed.
Councilmember Witherspoon pointed out that they were not talking
about some remote developer they were talking about themselves,
and- she thought they could start taking the pilings out ear lier ,
but even though the dredging may not' proceed exactly as sched-
uled, . the Yacht harbor basin would still be being hised for
sailing after the last dredging and up to the expiration of the
lease. She preferred -having it thirty months after the expira
tion of the lease.
Vice Mayor_._ Fletcher suggested the wording. "that the Yacht Harbor
piers be removed within thirty months of termination of the last
dredging was performed or within thirty months. , of expiration of
the lease, whichever comes first."
Mayor Henderson thought that they should stay with a time cer-
tain. He thought that thirty months from expiration of lease
would-be proper.
MOTION PASSED,- AS AMENDED, and incorporating Renzel ' s language► re
"30 months from City's receipt of notice that last dredging has
occurred," or "30 months after end of contract period," unani-
mously Fazzino, Klein, Levy absent.
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REQUEST OF MAYOR HENDERSON RE INVITATION OF CITY OF OAXACA TO
ATTEN6 TbOth AtTRTT1RSARY CELEBRATIONS - APRIL 25, 1 2
Mayor Henderson said that'at the recent meeting when the Council
presented resolutions to the students of Oaxaca, Or. Mario Perez
Ramirez gave him a letter from the Mayor of Oaxaco inviting him
to the City's 450th anniversary celebration in April, 1982. He
said he would not be the Mayor on thet date, so the invitation
would be transferred to someone else. He was concerned about the
lack of policy on .such travel. He thought the Council needed to
set policy immediately before responding to the invitation. He
said that the last invitation of the nature from Oaxaco was for
dedication of the new observatory about eight years. He said
that for that event, the City paid the expenses for the Mayor and
for the Councilmember who was i i asion for the Sister City
Program. He confessed to a personal reluctance to commit City
funds for such purposes. He said they valued their participation
in the Sister City Program, but expending tax funds on it was
questionable.
Councilmember Witherspoon said she thought that although it
seemed to the Council to be -an extravagance, it would be almost
an insult for the City not to at least make sure that the Mayor
attended. She did not know that it was necessary to send two
people and she thought that if any spouses want to go, they ought
to pay their own way, but if Palo Alto wanted to participate in
the Sister City Program, the other point of view must be looked
at. She thought that Oaxaca's point -of view would be that the
Palo Alto Council would . be almost insulting them by not going.
MOTION: Councilmember Witherspoon moved, seconded by Eyerly, to
authorize Council budget expenditure to send Mayor or his/her
designee to Oaxaca in 1982, and add as a. caveat that this not be
an extravagant trip.
Mayor Henderson said the reason he was concerned was because of
the many areas that the Council was cutting back. He said they
were not members of a number of national organizations that they
used to be members of, they did not participate in the California
League of Cities to the extent previously, or the Mayor's
Conference, they were cutting back in various areas of service
within the City, and he found that as a taxpayer, he was uncom-
fortable with expending tax moneys for people to go to a social
type of program in Mexico as much as they wanted to keep the
relations. He thought it was a voluntary type of thing and if
people wanted to do it, they should pay for it themselves.
Counciimember Eyerly said he did not quite agree that they were
cutting back on services, the budget next year was larger than it
had ever been and: there was -increased staff. He thought that the
thing the Council had to come to grips : with was whether there was
value in the Neighbors Abroad Program, and if so, on an occasion
such as this, they should certainly put up the ;coney to have
representation. He felt there" was, value, and thought that Palo
Alto with the Neighbors Abroad Program, the contacts they had
from the overseas cities that were twin cities with Palo Alto
were valuable, and he thought it_ behooved the Council to continue
the program. It had been with the City for a long time, it was
viable, and he saw; -no reason to cut it, off. He said they were
not building up something on an annual =:expense, they were looking
at \this on this ._one occasion and he presumed . that in view of
Proposition 13 and the other financial worries that would be the
way it was handled in theefuture..
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y basis, it was appropriate and all right for
pate. She shared some concerns about desig-
official visits, etc., and she thought that
austere state of things, locally and at the.
levels, where they had to look at tightening
seemed to her to be frivolous ' to be spending
this particular type of .activity. She thought
ished to participate in it voluntarily, then that
riate. She thought that was how much of the
e to Palo Alto --on a volunteer basis.
Witherspoon believed it would cost no more than a
going back and staying in a hotel in Washington,
e or four days at a National League of Cities con -
she believed, that the City had not, for the last
s, as a Council, spent their travel budget. She
e shot deal to the Sister City in Mexico was within
Fletcher said she did not think it compared with a
shi ngton and which worked towards promoting programs
ity was interested in. She found that the conference
extremely educational and she had learned a great deal
ci lmember s all over the country, and had tried to obtain
rom meeting with people in government, in the adminis-
and some of the elected people in Washington. She did
k it could be compared. This was a social thing, and she
it should be voluntary.
Henderson said, he realized he was getting in trouble -With
ors Abroad Sister Cities Program, but he always had a
y in his stomach on the program when he saw travel back and
, heavy entertaining, and living it up pretty well occurring
e l t those funds should be going.-_ to develop sewer systems and
ake care of the really poor people ilk that area. He hoped
the officials who came to Palo Alto from Oaxaca were doing
on their own and on their own expenditures. He did not know
t their situation was, but it made him uncomfortable to think
it in either direction when there was such a crying need for
1p in those areas, and those -programs did not seem that impor-
nt to him to be coming out of taxpayers' funds.
MOTION FAILED by a vote of 4-2, Eyerly and Witherspoon voting
"aye," Fazzino, Klein, Levy absent.
Councilmember Fenzel said that because the language included to
accept the invitation, she did not want the Council's action to
be construed as failing to allow someone to accept if they wished
to voluntarily do so. She thought that should be clear.
Mayor Henderson said he would
Palo Alto would have another
could hold off until January,
and who was going.
write to Oaxaca and explain that
Mayor by that time, and if they
Palo Alto would let them know if
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RE UEST OF VICE MAYOR FLETCHER RE EAST PALO ALTO'S INCORPORATION
Vice Mayor Fletcher said that in December of 1980, the East Palo
Alto Municipal Council took action to apply for incorporation and
.on April 10, 1981 made a formal application to LAFCO for incor-
poration of East Palo Alto..` She said there would be a LAFCO
hearing on August 19 where those in the sphere of influence were
invited to appear. She said Palo Alto 'had received the sphere of
influence report Which was the subject of the discussion on April
19, and had been given the opportunity to respond. - She asked
that the City Council support East Palo Alto's application before
LAFCO on August 19. She said that ,Palo Alto took:home rule for
granted, but she was trying to imagine how it would be for the
Palo Alto City Council to sit as a body and deliberate and study,
and make decisions, and that decision could be easily overturned
in San Jose, because they would not have final say. .She thought
that East Palo Alto must be yearning for self-determination
because it had happened on numerous occasions where they had
wanted to act in some manner and they were overruled. She said
that economic development in East Palo Alto had been very slow to
get off the ground, and the sphere of influence report said that
in the opinion of the consultant -a-, the status quo was a Signifi-
cant impediment to achieving the development potential of East
Palo Alto. The relationship between East Palo Alto Municipal
Council and County government had been an impediment to economic
development so they recommended incorporation as their _first
alternative. She said that aside from the economic development
and the other benefits, she felt that incorporation would result
in a sense of pride for the people' -in East Palo Alto and their
community and would stimulate inc-reared efforts on their part to
act to improve their community.
MOTION: Vice Mayor Fletcher moved, seconded by Eyerly, that Palo
Alto support East Palo Alto's -incorporation and forward that sup-
port to LAFCO.
A. Berkley Dr iessel , Vice Chairman, East Palo Alto Municipal
Council, said his Council was in session and had excused him
because of the importance for him to join the Palo Alto City
Council. He said that the application for incorporation was made
by the East Palo Alto Incorporation Committee not the Council
itself although the Council itself set in motion the organization
of that committee, but legally they are a separate entity and the
municipal council could not get involved in political actions:
like the incorporation. He pointed out that Palo Alto was _i n the
report and there were four alternatives covered: 1) status quo;
with East Palo Alto remaining unincorporated as a part of San
Mateo County; 2) annexation to the City of Menlo Park; 3) incor-
poration; and 4) annexation to the City of Palo Alto was also
studied. He said the first choice was incorporation and the
second choice was annexation to the ,_City of Menlo Park. He said
annexation to Pale Alto was not a, -.strong option. He said it was
important that LAFCO wanted both Palo Alto and Menlo Park to mace
known the will of their bodies at the upcoming hearing. He said
it was going to be the sphere of influence hearing, not incor-
poration hearing, at which the decision would be made of primary
sphere of influence, and would lead to. further .action for incor-
poration. He said that the new President of the Peninsula
D1.visinn of .the Le gue of Cities had written a letter saying that
if East Palo' Alto w -es incorporated by July of 1982, they would
1 ike East Palo Alto to be the host city for, the annual meeting- of
the Peninsula Division.
Mayor Henderson said the only hesitation he would have would be
if he felt the City of Palo Alto was urging something that the
overall citizenry of East Palo Alto had not supported. He asked
if they had had a vote of the citizens.
Mr. Driessel said that the hearings would lead to a recommenda-
tion by LAFCO to the Board of Supervisors. He, said the Board
would put it on the ballot, only after the hearings, and then
there would be a vote of the electorate and it would involve the
principle of incorporating into a general law city, and secondly
a tax per residence which was necessary for the fiscal basis.
required. It would go to a vote, but only after the orderly pro-
cedures of LAFCO and then the County Board of _Superv`isors of the
County of San Mateo.
Mayor Henderson asked Mr. Driessel if they could say technically
that the City of Palo Alto's support would be, in effect, to urge
LAFCO to take those steps to get it on the ballot and leave it to
East Palo Alto to make the decision.
Mr. Driessel said that basically what LAFCD.wanted to know was
whether Palo Alto would support the recommendations of the con-
sultant. He said they were not in the broader question of incor-
poration at this point, they were at the question of the report
submitted to LAFCO by the consultant for their staff. - The
broader of question of incorporation would come up at later
hearings and go before the Board.
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Councilmember Witherspoon asked it was an official request for
Palo Alto's opinion because she said her experience was that when
they -had given their opinion an .what Palo Alto thought East Palo
Alto should do, East Palo Alta seemed to resent it.
Mr_. .Driessel said that at the first hearing which occurred two
weeks ago, there were about t3.5.Q people in the audience and only
two opposed the i ncor por ati on, which he thought reflected the
sentiments of the population. He said`.,it was specifically a
request by L AFCD as set up in State -law for advice from sur-
rounding jurisdictions in the sphere of influence, so in that
sense it was an official, but it did not mean that the County -
Board would listen to it. He assured the Council that the vast
majority of people in East Palo Alto would welcome -their neigh-
boring jurisdiction's positive action.
Councilmember Renzel said it appeared that the Council was being
asked to say that they were not cl ammer i ng to say that East Palo
Alto should be in their sphere of influence, that Palo: Alto
agreed with the consultants' report that it should either incor-
porate or stay under the County or go with Menlo Park. Addi-
tionally, she thought it might be helpful for the City' of Palo_:
Alto to support the desires the people of East Palo Alto to
incorporate as their own community, which would not be getting
into the pros and cons of what the impacts of incorporation might
be, but simply that Palo Alto supported the desire of that com-
munity to incorporate.
Mayor Henderson said his only hesitation was that they did not
have the officially voted desire of East Palo Alto.
Bice Mayor Fletcher clarified that its was her belief that the
East Palo Alto Municipal Council had come out unanimously for
incorporation and they represented the people.
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Mr. Driessel said that they would never get a chance to vote on
the matter if they S.id not get through the processes. He said
the vote would always speak for itself and he would be the last
to say that he could read the mind of the public.
MOTION PASSED unanimously, Fazzino, Klein, Leey absent.
Vice Mayor Fletcher said she would be pleased to take the letter
to the public hearing; on Wednesday if it could be prepared on
time.
UEST OF eCOUNCILMEMBERS EYERLY FLETCHER HENDERSON-I KLEIN,
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Councilmember Eyerly, said there was a definite shortage of,
counciimembers attending the meeting and their proposal would be
a budget amendment needing six votes.
Mayor Henderson commented that there had been charges made that,
some of- the eeunci lmember s had become turncoats concerning the_
preservation of open space in the Foothills. First, he said that
none of the, councilmembers had indicated that they intended to -
develop any of the Arastra property. Secondly, he said that if
any tdevelopment were to take place, it would be within the
requirements of the open space zoning which exists for all of the
Foothills, with one dwelling per ten acres and clustered. He
said his reasons for looking at the Arastra property was quite
clear, i f Palo Alto expected to go to the -voters in the near
future to seek new tax revenues for such as purchase of surplus
school sites, they had better be in a position to say that they
had: studied other alternatives for raising fiends. He knew the
City bade a wise decision in buying the Arastra property for -$7.5
million; however, it was money out of existing City reserves. He
thought they owed it to the citizens to look at the Arastra prop-
erty with the following questions in mind: .
i. .Is there a buildable site which fails within the zoning
restrictions and that would have a minimum negative impact on
the environment?
2.- Would development of that site provide -sufficient income to
the City to balance off whatever environmental impact it
would have?
Mayor Henderson said personally he thought the odds were pretty
high against development, but felt they should find out.
Following last week, he commented that he thought the Council did
a halfway job on it. Instead of authorizing $100,000 for a study
of -the entire Arastra property, it knocked off $1.0,000 and then
authorized $90,000 to look at a specific 77 acre portion. He did
not want to make a final judgment on the material the Council
heard last week, but admitted that he found little . to persuade,
him to c nsider developing the 77 acres. He said that the income
to the City was far less than he had been lead to expect, not to
mention the environmental impacts. He .said he kept hearing that
land on the southwest corner of the Arastra rpr oiler ty or land
across Arastradero from the :_7 acres would produce more revenue
with less negative impact from development. He said he would
like to know if that was true and he ,.thought: the voters should be
,told if it was true. Unfortunately,. in the °bumbling„__' -of the
project, it would now cost the City auout $05,000 to $40,000 more
for the consultants to pursue the additional assignment. He said
he agreed to join Councilmember,Eyerly and others in placing this
item on the agenda based. upon Councilmember Eyerly's hope that
the additional information could be obtained without additional
most by reducing other aspects of the City. It did_ not appear
too clear that it would be possible, but he hoped that Council -
member Eyerly could pursue it further so that when the Council
started tal-king about money next week, they were_ not talking'
about another $35,000 or $40,000. He thought they would have a
hard time justifying it.
MOTION: Mayor Henderson moved, seconded by Eyerly, that the
matter be continued to- 8/24/81, and ask staff to obtain some
figures on recent land sales in Palo Alto and nearby Foothills
areas by that date, plus information re utilities.
Mayor Henderson hoped staff could obtain that information by next
Monday and then the Council could see whether the economics were
such that the study should be pursued further . 'He said some of
the figures he had heard were inviting, but the figures they
heard last -Monday for the 77 acres were far below that.
Counci member Eyerly said he would ,1 i ke staff to give their own
comments regarding the -acreage that was suggested for Council to
,look at, the southwest corner of 70 acres, He said that last
week he talked to the' consultants and
nd the individual handling the.
economic presentationt said that as long as lot sires were
approximately the same size as what was talked about on the 77
acres, Jre would not have any trouble plugging that .in to :get
economic corirnents to the Council as far as what the lot values
were. He said that, coupled with the staff report, would be of
help. The iead consultant, was not quite as cooperative as to
what he would be able to do for a minimum ainourit of money in view
of the fact that it was cut from $100,000 to $90,000. He said he
talked to the staff about the wisdom of getting the consultants
to slow down so that they did nota keep grinding out more material
that they might not be wanting to use, but staff felt that the
consultants, with what was talked about. last week with the
Planning Commission, would need all week to get that into some
type of format to add to their current. presentation. He thought
that next week the Council was really looking for an overview and
not the type of detail they had last week. Counc i lmember Eyerly
felt that Council wonted some serious observations from staff as
well as the consultants as to the environmental impact on the
acreage they were talking about, and some observations on the
economics. He wondered' whether they might not get comments frorn
the staff as. to whether, from the environmentale impacts, the
Southwest corner would not be a good building siX4 -.to protect the
Ar astr a property.
Mr. Zaner said staff was having trouble figuring out how.. to get
Council's first, request back to Council within a week. He said
it was almost impossible, and they also noticed that some of the
councilmembers had vacations scheduled in the next weeks, and
there was no time for staff to get back to. Council , when there
would be a whole Council present, until October.
Mayor Henderson said he was concerned about that because he did
not want to delay dedicating the 515 acres. He wanted -:that to be
doe before November 1, and he was hoping they could get at least
some concept of sales in the area.
Principal Planner, George Zimmerman said he did not specifically
know what date the, economic consultant had that staff could put
together. The other constraint was staff time during the interim
when they had about five other studies that had various deadlines
this week. He said that with regard to the second part of
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Counc i lmember Eyer ly ` s comments namely to make some sort of cur-
sory environmental assessment, and then to judge what economic
return the southwest portion could generate, he had discussed
that with the Lee consultant, Seaway/Cook and Richard Warren
Smith, and the one consideration that had to be made when looking
at economic return, was not only the revenues, but what would the
cost be. Then, if you were looking at the cost, some form of
eeologic analysis, soils analysis would have to be made because
in order to determine what the development costs would be, some
civil engineering work would have to be done, in terms of the
examination of the area, what it would cost to grade, and only
then, could a thorough economic analysis be done. He said the
level of detail would be dependent upon how much Council wanted,
but the point was that to get other than just what recent land
values had gone for, to get any other type of economic or
environmental impact .analysis, the other types of studies must be
done.
Mayor Henderson said his request was only to get the market
values. He would not expect staff to beyond with any analysis or
any evaluation or any guess work or anything else.
Mr. Zimmerman asked if. they Were just talking about. raw land
sales.
Mayor Henderson said that was correct.
Rose Gray, 1235 Hamilton Avenue, Chairperson of the Loma Pieta
Chapter of the Sierra Club, said the continuance scunded great,
the later the better. She said she believed the Council would
protect the Foothi l l s, and she believed they would be left in the
natural splendor. Ruttier, she urged the Council t`o designate
515 acres of Arastra Land as open space parklands. She believed
that the Council would not incur further expense to the Palo Alto
taxpayers, they would recognize that further study of development
of land on the 550 acres of Arastra land by the consultant: would
be throwing money-. away. She believed the study would be alerted
to the potential investment in conserving land instead of
providing high cost residences for a small portion of the.,
population: :She said there was a continuing increase, in
population in Palo Alto, and with that growth was crowding. She
said they needed more than ever places like the Arastra lands as
quiet areas to relax. She said the Council could take a positive
step by touring the exceptional area before any, more decisions
were made,
Larry Faber, 3127 David Avenue, President of Palo Alto. Horsemen
for Trails Preservation, said that .i f the 77 acres were developed
there would be a bridge or gap right in the middle of the _open
space. He urged that the Council not block the open- space
corridor.
Mildred Scranton, 747 Josina Avenue, Secretary' of the Mid -
Peninsula Trail Council and a member of the Palo Alto Horsemen
for Trails Preservation said they were working on a walk/ride
through the Arastra property in order to acquaint peop1t - with
that property, and r.ould appreciate the Council joining them.
William R. Smith, 1873 Edgewood Drive, member of the Palo Alto
Horsemen for Trails Preservation,; said that in the connection of
an -.access of clear area someone might think that 280 would make a
Mock.- He said 280 was not a block to horse trails or any others
because when it was put in, there were two underpasses put in to
allow -Mr. Peers to run his cattle 6n _ both sides of the highway.
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Jr u Anderson, 3084 Stel li ng Drive, member of the Palo Alto
Horsemen for Trails Preservation, supported the continuance and
supported whatever opportunity Council had to take a look at the
Arastra property in person: She said that one of the things she
had noticed in the various reports was that Stanford was wpiting
in the wings to see what the City did with that property. She
cautioned the Council about setting a precedent for that.77 acres
and what Stanford might do since Palo Alto had gone ahead.
Vice Mayor Fletcher reassured the people that she was just as
dedicated as ever to dedicating at least 400 acres and hopefully
more at the earliest possible opportunity. She said she wanted
to explore, if possible, not so much for the purpose, of building
expensive homes, but in order to generate funds so that there
could be some open space in some of the neighborhoods, specifi-
cally school sites, where the City was faced with having to pay
enormous sums to keep some open space around the school sites.
She said she did wander over the property and said she had been
there several times. She said that when she was there one week-
end, she felt there was another site that they might consider,
which was directly across Arastradero_:Road from the 77 acres.
She said that area seemed to be a possible area to look at. She
said that from Arastra1ero Road it was screened heavily from some
large Eucalyptus trees. She did not know if it was a suitable
site or not, but felt it was worth considering.
Mr. Zimmerman said that if the item did receive favorable action
at a subsequent Council meeting, he wished to point out that in
terms of additional costs which would be incurred by the City for
the necessary consultant work, unless the Council specifically
defined one site, then the consultant costs would be at the
higher range of their estimate rather than the lower range
because then they would be in effect going back to the 'original
assignment and looking at alternate sites that would be suitable
for development. Mr. Zimmerman said that the difference was that
originally the consultant was going to look at the 515 acres in a
more or less cursory fashion, from a visual standpoint, with no
soils or geological analysis, and based upon that they would go
back to Council with their findings, and where they thought would
be most appropriate to develop.
Councilmembea Renzel said she was concerned that they might he_.
sending good money after bad and at some point, they would feel
that they had so much invested in looking at all the development
alternatives that they would feel compelled to select one. of
them. She felt that preservation of the entire Arastra site: was
in the best interests, and she thought that if there was some
passing interest as to what the lanai would be worth on the open
market. in terms of discussing purchase of :school sites with some
form of tax revenue, she-, felt the citizens would end up having to
evauate the school sites arid. -their value on a different basis.
She felt that the citizens of Palo Alto would not want to trade
off the open space in the Foothi l l s, and she thought that was
where_ the studies were leading. She was in favor of the continu-
ance, but did not want that to suggest that she .favored. the con-
cepts which had been suggested or development in general.
Mayor Henderson asked what would happen if the Council decided.
stop the study=
Mr. Zimmerman said he thought there was a certain cancellation
clause and he thought they would have to go back over the con
tract to see where the City would stand in that regard.
Cauncilmember. 'Wither-spoon said that along with the continuance
she thought they were asking for comparables for raw land in that
area, and the only other_ thing that might give the. City some
handle on the costs would be where would the utilities be pro-
vided because she thought that once over the ridge or hill
towards Los Trancos Woods, they, would run into the problem of the
City's own utility lines. She thought it was a reasonable
request and would support the continuance.
Councilmember Bechtel was concerned that the City had already
spent $75,000 on a study that was three -fourths of the way along,
and she knew that some of the people involved with the Horsemen's
group were concerned that the 77 acres would, if developed, block
access. She said she was opposed to development on any of the
land, but if the majority of the Council allowed any development,
she assumed that every square inch would not be developed so that
there would still be substantial access through on the 77 acres.
She thought the point made by Councilmernber Witherspoon regarding
utilities was a valid one, that if the previous argument had been
to develop over there because it was close :o some areas of
Ladera or Portola: Valley or whatever, she did not think that
would fly because the other section was equally close to those
portions which were already developed in Los Altos ill s. She
would vote against the continuance, and did not think it was
appropriate for the Council to expand the study now.
MOTION TO CONTINUE PASSED by a vote of 4-2, Renzel, Bechtel
voting "no, Klein, Fazzino, Levy -absent.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 11:10 p.m.
ATTEST:
APPROVED: