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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-07-25 City Council Summary MinutesCITY COUNCIL MINUTES --PALOALTOCITYCOUNCIL MEETINGS ARE BROADCAST UVE VIA KZSU- FREOU ENCY 90.1 ON FM DIAL Regular Meeting July 25, 1988, 7:30 p.m. ITEM PAGE Oral Communications 60-185 Minutes of June 20, 1988 60-185 Agenda Changes, Additions and Deletions 60-185 1. Ordinance re Moratorium on Flag Lots in 60-185 R-1 Areas 2. Toxics Protection Council Proposal 60--186 3. Council Member Fletcher and Mayor 60-193 Sutorius re Police Citizen Complaint Information and Statistics 4. Council Member Fletcher re AB 3354 (Floyd) 60-194 5. Council Members Bechtel and Woolley re 60-195 Permitting Skateboards to be Used in the Street 6. Update Report on Current Water Shortage 6r-197 7. Report on Shoreline Amphitheater Noise 60-199 Adjournment at 10:20 p.m. 60-184 7/25/88 i 1 Regular Meeting Monday, July 25, 1988 City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on thie date in the Council Chasber3, 250 Hamilton Avenue, at 7:33 p.m. PRESENT: Bechtel, Cobb, Fletcher, Klein, Patitucci (ai:ived at 7:':4 p.n.), Renzel, Sutorius, Woolley, Levy Mayor Sutorius announced that a Special Meeting with the Historic Resources Board was held at 6:15 p.m., in the Council Conference Room. Mayor Sutorius announced the need for a Closed Sassion re Employer/Employee Relations to be held at some point during or after the meeting. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS 1. Ed Power, 2254 Dartmouth, spoke regarding the bureaucracy of elected officials and the Palo Alto Yacht Harbor. MINUTES OF JUNE 20 1988 MOTION: Council Maabsr Klein moved, seconded by Rensel, approval of the Minutes of . une 20, 19840 as subsitt!. NOTION PASSED by a vote of 8-0-1, Levy "abstaining." CONSENT CALENDAR None AGENDA CHANGES, ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS MOTION: Tice Mayor Klein moved, seconded by Sutorius, to add Item re Current Water Shortage to beoeme Item S. NOTION PASSED unanimously, NOTION: Mayor 8utorine moved, seam:died by Klein, to add Item re novellas Amphitheater Noise Issue to become Item 7. MOTION PASS= unanimously. 1. Ordinance re Moratorium on Flag Lot's in R -1 Areas (701-03/242) (CMR:248:8) NOTION: Council Member Rensel Wired, seconded by Bechtel, to adopt the native declaration prepared for the Flag Lot Moratorium awl Interim Regulations. 60-185 7/25/88, NOTION CONTI D exprmAMCI 3022 entitled "OIDIJIANCE OF TSB COUNCIL 07 TNN CITY OP PALO ALTO IMPOSE A MORATORIUM U$TI! DECEMBER 10, MISS, ON TIE alCCIPTAMC1 OW APPLICATIONS 7OR TINTATIVX SUEDIVIsmm" MAPS AND PRELIMINARY MUM, MAPS WEICa MOULD CRIATI A FLAG LOT IM R-1 AND Es BONING DISTRICTS AND ON TSB PROCE8SINO AID/aft ISSUANCE 07 BUILDING PERMITS FOR FLAG LOTS IN R-1 AND Rs 101110 DISTRICTS BRICE DO MOT MEW? CERTAIM CRITERIA', Council Member Patitucci favored a moratorium on flag lots where single lots in existing neighborhoods were being divided, but did not support a moratorium in multiple lot subdivisions. He could not support the motion. Mayor Sutorius referred to the effective date of the ordinance as it applied to existing flag lots, and clarified any building permit application receiveu by the close of business on Monday, July 11, 3.988, and subset antly judged to be complete in its status would not be affected by the moratorium. Director of Planning and Community Environment Kin Schreiber said there were two building permit applications in process. MOTION PASSED by a vote of 8-1, Patitucci voting lino.' 2. Toxics Protection Council Proposal (1440-01-01) Council Member Woolley was a mambIr of a task force charged with structuring the Toxic. Protection Council (TPC). The Inter- governmental Council (IGC) called a special meeting for August 4, 1988, to discuss the proposal, and the Board of Supervisors needed to act on August 9, 1988, with complete draft language in order to put the Toxic. Protection Council proposal on the November ballot. Clearly, toxics issues were gr_nwing and cities needed all the help they could get, and an organization which functioned on a regional basis, county -wide, would benefit the City. She was concerned that by placing the TPC as a separate entity, it would be totally unrelated to IGC. All the work dons at the County level so far was done through IGC. While she would agree IGC was not the effective organization the City Council would like it to be, the area of toxic. was its "shining star." She believed it was important for the TPC to stay as a function of this IGC. The Charter of IOC was to address joint jurisdictional issues, and toxic. was one. The Board of Supervisors felt the need to have the Toxic. Protection Council proposal on the November ballot because the Open Spice ballot measure would be on the June ballot and two tax measures on the same ballot were not considered to be a good idea. She preferred to create the WC by County ordinance rather than by ballot measure since the basic way to raise funds was through a service area like the Vector Control District, and the Board of Supervisors could do that by ordinance. A charter amendment 60-186 7/25/8@ would set the TPC up in perpetuity as a separate entity from the Board of Supervisors. Cities had to agree to join the service area and if a city did not wish to join a service area it was up to a City Council. A city could also withdraw from the service area if it did not believe the TPC was effective with the Local Agency Formation Commission's {MAPCO) permission. Vice 4ayor Klein agreed with the need for the TPC but queried why it was not just placed directly under the County or under some other regional power organization. City Manager Bill Zaner said the biggest problem was £ind".ng a funding mechanism. The solution was to either go to the legislature and get some authority, which did not presently exist under State law, to establish some kind of a protection council, which would take. a long time; or, try and create a mechanism out of available resources. The TPC was proposed to link a county service district to such a function, which was never before done. There was no question of they need for some kind of central control and direction for, policymaking region --wide. There had been attempts to centralize the policymaking at the Cr•nty level. He was not sure he agreed it should be within the IGC but it .s not a bad place to start. If it was done bl ordinance, it could always be moved. Vice Mayor newn understood any city could opt out. Mr. Basler clarified there was no way to force a city into a special service district set up by the Board of Supervisors. 0►etting out of a special service district required concurrence from LFOo, and ]DECO could hold that withdrawal of one city damaged the overall effectiveness of the organization and so damaged its revenue raising capability that it would not allow a city to leave. If the cities of San Jose and Santa Clara decided not to join the special service district, there would essentially not be an organization because it would require the affirmative action of 50 percent of the cities representing 50 percent of the population. Council Member Woolley said putting the TPC in the hands of the County would be fine, but the problem was the City of San Jose would never agree to it. It was not feasible to move withott San Jose's participation. Vice Mayor Lein referred to the composition of the Board, and the fact that "four elected officials from City Councils other than that of San Jose, one of who must represent South Count , " and it .'� like the author was from South County. He queried why the language did not say one must be from Palo Alto, Mountain View, etc. Considering where people lived in the County and the communities which had toxics problems, he did not see why a seat was specified for Morgan Hill and Gilroy. 60.187 7/25/88 Council 'Umber Woolley agreed, and said the compromise was to increase the city representatives to four instead of two so more of the generating cities could be represented. Vice Mayor Klein had no problem with that but he was very concerned about the specific designation of South County. Council Member Bechtel pointed out that South County encompassed half the land in the County, and it was true it had some serious water pollution problems. She shared Council Member Woclley's concern regarding t+:ring. She did not see that the proposal should be put on the November ballot because she doubted it would be ready or pass. It was unclear what the TPC would do with a budget of approximately $500,000 a year. Council Member Woolley clarified the $500,000 a year was a cap and that in the early years, the tax would be less. Originally the TPC was proposed as a charter amendment and the only way the money could ever be raised was to go back to the ballot again. It needed to be sufficient to carry the bcdy through for at least ten years. She agreed there was no need for such a level of funding in the beginning. It was a disadvantage of a charter amendment and a plus for the ordinance. Council Member Fletcher asked why toxic reduction was not part of the function. Council Member Woolley believed it was an oversight and could be added. Council Ede r Patitucci clarified "Council" to have a "District," so functions but the ''Council" was de3igned structure. it was not necessary to have a a "District" could perform the an administrative, separately Mr. Zaner said that was correct. Under the law, the County Board of Supervisors could establish a "District," and it would be Jul Board of Directors. Council Member Patitucci queried why add another layer of an indispendigxt booty. Mr. . Zaner said the thought was . there should be a body whose sole function was to deal with hazardous materials and toxic. policies. While the Board of Supervisors was competent, it had other responaibiliti.s. The funding mechanics would be done by the District, and the Council would be, effectively, independently created in the Charter, and the coney would flow over from the District to fund the Council. Council Member Patitucci said the District idea made some sense, but he was bothered by the Council idea. He asked if the . TPC would assume some of the reaponsibilitios in terms of what Palo Alto already did with regard to hazardous materials. 60-188 7/25/8$ i e hr. Zaner said the TPC offered a mechanism for coordinating what Palo Alto ways doing with other jurisdictions. For example, several City Manager's in the County were trying to establish a model toxic gas ordinance for the all the cities in the County of Santa Clara which eve yone could adopt and live with. It made no sense for Palo Alto to adopt an ordinance and find out the City of Mountain View took a different position. When the State of California adopted new regulations and statutes, i.e., Tanner, it took cities almost a year to get organized in terms of how to respond to the new responsibilities. The TPC made sense for the whole County so Palo Alto was not doing one thing and Mountain View another. The TPC would coordinate the steps and be proactive in establishing the kinds of policies necessary to protect the public. It was not intended to be an enforcement agency as was the City of Palo Alto. Council Member Cobb agreed with Vice Mayor Klein and believed they were better off establishing the TPC by ordinance rather than by Charter amendment. Council Member Renzsl. shared. Council Member Patitucci's concern about separate agencies and districts, but as pointed out, without a separate kind of authority, the City of San s; �se probably would not participate in to the program, and it was essential in order to sake it an effective program. Dr. Inga Harding-Earlow, 3717 Laguna Avenue, was a toxicologist, and worked extensively with the various communities in Palo Alto. She was the Community Representative to the Serra LEPC, Region II, which was comprised of 16 counties in Northern California, including Santa Clara. The stated functions of the TPC needed to be more specific in terms .3f how it would "protect .1° Under the Serra "Right to know" ordinances, there was a mechanism for communication. She was overwhelmed by the number of public and other meetings on taxies and that none of the agencies seemed to communicate. She hoped the TPC could consolidate some of the many meetings. She was concerned the TPC would only be made up of elected officials and there were no ttxics experts. She would oppose the TIC as represented and would do everythng possible to see that the citizens voted against it. Nancy Nos, Alga Corporation, 950 Page Mill Road, was concerned about the haste in which the matter was to be placed on the ballot and that the issues needed to be more clearly defined.. Her colleagues at the County Manufacturing oup commenced review of the proposal and were concerned about another creating another layer of bureacracy and that the TPC not duplicate responsibilities already taken care of by existing agencies. Concern was also expressed over whether the TPC would bypass the IGC and whether it would be more appropriate to have the TPC within the IGC perhaps even as a function as an expanded environmental safety committee. Concern was expressed over the vagueness of the descriptions of the functions. It appeared the TIC would be primarily advisory and educational and the name 60-189 7/25/88 "Protection Council" might be misleading. The figures presented were questioned in terms of whether they were realistic, whether it was a good use of taxpayer dollars; or whether the same dollars might be allocated to an existing agency that might have more of an effect. The split roll rate in allocating the higher rate of charges to commercial and industrial uses was perceived as being anti -business. She urged that Council consider how the TPC might affect competition within the County. She also expressed concern over the proposed composition and that it was made up entirely of representatives of government agencies without any members of industry or the public and that staff did not seem to provide the adequate technical and scientific resources needed to evaluate and make recommendations on complex toxics issues. She emphasized the need to take more time to consider the issues and not rush into making a decision. Kelly Erin O'Brien, 268 Nargarite Avenue, represented the Peninsula Industrial i Business Association (PIBA), and expressed concern over trying to get the proposal on the November ballot. The idea was to build consensus and that could not be done by August 9. For those involved in environmental planning, the important task was to understand, through the resources and expertise of the people, actively involved, and make intelligent decision -making without wisely put together organisations PIBA urged the matter not be rushed aid placed on the November ballot. The TPC appeared to be strictly a political committee. Further consideration was needed. Bob Nose, 4010 Orme, agreed with all of the previous speakers. Council Member Woolley's concerns were also appropriate in terms of establishing the TPC by ord:► :.nce rather than by Charter amendment. There was not a proper balance between the amount levied on industry and on the private homeowner. The disparity between the amount of toxics spilled and the cost of clean-up was not recognized. He suggested $1 for a single family home and $10 for every industrial or commercial property. He referred to the $400,000, and said it took Assemblyman Byron Sher seven years to get the sua of money approved by the Governor. The Reg iona l Water Quality Control Board immediately tripled its staff and were able to do things it had been trying to do unsuccessfully for years. He queried whether it was an effective use of taxpayers' money to establish the proposed organization without a clear purpose and an opportunity for the public to discuss what would be done and how. He urged the matter not be placed on the November ballot. Council Member Woolley agreed the composition and functions of the technical advisory committee needed to be included. It was assumed the technical advisory committee would include members of industry and public with s ial eltpertise and also the staffs of cities with special expertise. MOTION: lei1 Member Woolley moved, seconded by Pletcher, that moil st°osgly support the Taxies Protection Council proposal 60-190 7/25/88 1 in concept, but request consideration of the foll'�wing and circulation of a revised draft to the cities: 1. Place the 'FPC within the structure of the IOC towards centralising specialised regional bodies; ,.lb) Revise the first point under Functions of the Draft Plan to reads "Develop and recommend county -wide policies fo.: both short -tern and long -tern reduction and management of tonics to protect residents from negative health effects and protect property from damages..." a. Funding changes as step a. Clarify that the $2 and $5 amounts are caps with lesser amounts to be levied at first as needods b. Consider including a mechanism for increasing the cap after ten years with the concurrence of the cities. (only appropriate if created by Charter amendmont.) 3. specify how a city may withdraw from the service area. 4. Include the coaposition and function of the Technical Advisory Committee. a. Recommend either striking the reference to representation from South County or that the other three elected officials also indicate the areas that rill be specifically represented. 8. Request that the board of Supervisors not approve placing a ballot measure for s, Charter amendment on the November ballot. axINDMRNT; Council Member Fletcher moved, soconded by Rensel, to add between the words "long-term" and "management= the words "reduction and." RNDKRNT INCORPORATED INTO MAIN NOTION. ) M* ?s Vice Mayor Klein saved, seconded by Cobb, to revise the language in (5) to states *given the inadequate time for review of this proposal, it is requested that the Board of Supervisors not approve a ballot measure for a Charter amendment for the November 1,88 ballot, ASIMMDMRSIT=CORPORA =TO MIN MOTION. AMMER:Ms Vice Manor Mein Named, seconded by Mensal, that the 1 e in item 4(a) requiring on, *Mafiafrees South County be stricken ar that in addition the other three local elected officials have their areas of representation specified. 60-191 7/25/88 AMMMOMEMT IMCOIPORATMD INTO MAIM MOTION. Council Member Cobb agreed with the amendments but queried when concept stopped and precise detail started. He suggested Council direct its discussion to broad .rear of concern. Council Member Woolley queried whether Council Member Cobb would be more comfortable vita language that Council strongly supported the. need for an organization to coordinate toxic. issues. Council Member Cobb was concerned about whether Council was going to take the concept apart on a word -by -word basis or whether Council would provide some broad direction with which to return to the IGC. Mayor Sutorius agreed with all of the suggestions. He believed the City Managers worked diligently on the subject and had an important message they tried to convey. Council Member Levy did not understand the need for the TPC. The members of the public spoke to aeding another layer of bureacracy and the general description of the functions said the TPC world supplement current County services. Before he could support the concept, he needed to understand the need for the extra layer of bureacracy and why the same functions could not be accomplished under the direct guidance of the Board of Supervisors. Council Member Woolley said it was suggested that by putting the TPC under the IGC, 4,t would not create another layer of bureacracy. The heed was due to the fact that the City of San Jose would not agree to having the County assume the role because it wanted to have a part. She pointed out the organization provided for two members from the City of San Jose. Mr. fansr said there were any number of committees and task forces with regard to toxic.. One of the hopes for the TPC was that there would be more consolidation and elimination of some of the smaller organ►i zat ions . He believed the County shoul . be a sub -regional government for the area of toxic., but the practical consideration was that there would not be any kind of toxic. policy coordination unless cities were willing to build a mechanism that everyone would buy into. Clearly, many cities would be reluctant to yield to the County Board of Supervisors such policy coordinating functions and would feel more comfortable with some board on ehich they had representation to do that kind of work. Council Member Levy asked who would implement the TPC's guidelines and to whom the recommendations would be focused. Mr. Miner said the policies, guidelines; or draft ordinances would be implemented by each of the jurisdictions in the County just as was done with the Hazardous Materials Storage ordinance. The TPC as presently constituted would not have the authority to require 60-192 7/25/8. a jurisdiction to adopt its guidelines or ordinances. At least one city already indicated it would not participate if the TPC had such authority. MOTION PASSED by a vote of a-1, Levy vetizg Nao.N 3. Council Member Fletcher and Mayor Sutorius re Police Citizen Complaint Information and Statistics (1202) Ben Bailey, 171 Everett, was concerned about the loophole in California Penal Code Section 832.7 which the City Attorney cited in her opinion that information in a police officer's personnel file may not be released without a court order. When the law was passed in 1978, anyone would naturally assume the word "information" referrred to information of a personal nature not related to the officer's official actions since it was long a basic principle of American law that the "official" actions of a goverment employee are never privileged and confidential information except under limited and extraordinary circumstances such as national security or an ongoing criminal investigation. Section 832.7 did not specifically say personal, nonrelevant information --just information. The State Attorney General agreed with Diane Worthway, in Opinion 88-306, that the law, as worded, meant all information in the file and all statistical data derived from files must be kept secret. The Attorney General's office recomae`tded that Assemblyman Byron Sher introduce a bill to amend the wording of Section 832.7, but Assemblyman Sher advised he could not get to it in 1988. Despite the Attorney GoLlral's opinion, the San Francisco Police Dapartaent would continue to post its data daily. Lynn Torin, 721 Ensign Way, spoke as Chair of the Human Relations Commission (HRC). The HRC, at its July 14, 1988, meeting unanimously agreed to encourage the City Council to take initiative to change State legislation to permit discretionary law enforcement release of appropriate information while still maintaining the necessary confidentiality with respect to individual complaints. The HRC believed Palo Alto's Police Department was an excellent one, but that any group which used a system where the monitoring wa$c done from within the group was not quite as good a system where there was some appropriate view by the public. The HRC offered its help. MOTION: Council Member lletaher moved, seconded by Butorius, re Polio* Department o msplaint, to direct the Mayor to oomm=nicate with ssem bl yman Sher to ma*vey s 1. The City Council's appreciation for his assi tamce to datep 2. The City Council's strong interest in securing legislative authority to resume discretionary law enforcement release of oosplaimt and investigation information with proper confidentiality protections: and 60-193 7/25/88 3. The City Council's availability to assist/support in the preparation and advocacy for such legislation. Council Member Fletcher said it was not in the public interest to keep information which should be in the public domain unavailable to the public. The Police Chief did not agree with the idea of not releasing information. It was also not tradition in Palo Alto to make information unavailable to the public as long as the confidentiality of individual staff members was protected. Council Member Levy agreed with Council Member Fletcher and the HRC. He believed it was an oversight on the part of the Legislature in having used the specific language. If it was necessary to get a change in the language, it was appropriate to move ahead as vigorously as possible to open up the actions of the Palo Alto Police Depart alt more to public scrutiny without violating the true individual rights to privacy. Mr. Zaner said it was important to guard the rights and privacy of private individuals who made complaints against the polio. Those persons sight not wish to have their names disclosed to the public. The laws tended to operate to protect both sides. MOTION PASSED unanimously. 4. Council Member Fletcher re AS 3354 (Floyd) (725-02-01) Council Member Fletcher said if AS 3354 passed, it would prohibit cities or counties from adopting local ordinances requiring establishments selling alcoholic beverages to put up any types of signs which sight warn of the health and driving effects of alcohol consumption. The League of California Cities was concerned about the Legislature preempting local jurisdictions from their normal functions. MOTION* Council Member Fletcher moved„ seconded by Bechtel, that the Mayor be directed to send a letter of opposition to Senator Morgan. Council Member Patitucci queried whether the legislation would stop cities from doing something they were already doing or whether it was an anticipation that cities might want to do something. Council Member Fletcher believed it was the typo of legislation all at:ism should be concerned about. If only those jurisdictions which currently had such ordinances objected, theTl. the bill did not stand a chance of defeat. Since local jurisdictions were the enforcementagencies, she believed it could be in the public interest to have signs in the bars and restaurant:; that sold alcoholic beverages that persons who drank on the premises should not drive. She .would not want to be preempted by the . State legislature . from introducing such an ordinance. 0 City Attorney Diana MartLway said the issue was the posting of signs relating to health consequences. Under existing legislation, the State did not believe it had the right to prohibit cities or counties from passing such legislation. One of the essential functions of local government was to protect the health of its citizens. She believed citizens looked to local goverment for that level of protection. Mayor Sutorius said the City of Palo Alto City Council had long taken a stand that it would oppose those actions which genericrlly eroded local authority inappropriately. *O?IOM PASSED unanimously. 5. Council Members Bechtel and Woolley re Permitting Skateboards to be Used in the Street (1167) Council Member Woolley believed when skateboards were originally provided for in the Palo Alto Municipal Code (PAMC), they were thought of as a fad or a toy. It was apparent that skateboards were a serious form of transportation for students to middle school and high school. The present ordinance said skateboarders had to stay on the sidewalk, and she believed it would be far more appropriate to allow skateboards to go in the street. On the other hand, it was necessary that skateboarding in the street be done responsibly. The Police Department was not opposed to skateboards being ridden on the street but was interested in it being done responsibly and wanted that built into the PAMC. MOTIO$t Council Member Woolley moved, seconded by Bechtel, that the Palo Alto Aunicipel Cods revision to permit skateboards to be used in the street be referred to the Policy and Procedures Committee. Hank Scotch, 2375 Santa Catalina, was concerned that little was provided for teenagers to do in Palo Alto. He believed the use of skateboards should be encouraged and it should be permitted on the streets with the same rules as for bicyclists. He belisved there should be places to skateboard perhaps at Rinconada Park with obstacles created as was done in Benicia. John Christian weeks, 3060 Price Court, was a student at Palo Alto High School. He supported skateboarding in the street. He had been cited for skateboarding in the street, but in court, the judges always let it go without a fine. He supported the idea of a skateboard park. He referred to an Ohio Supreme Court decision which said *Municipalities were immune to lawsuits arising from accidents on City -owned recreational areas used by the public free of charge. Ed Connolly, 1044 giant, represented the skateboarding youth In Palo Alto. He supported the suggestions for establishing a skateboard park or a place where recreational riding could be encvuregdd. 60-195 7/25/68 Bev Benson, 2375 Santa Catalina Street, was the frustrated parent of a skateboarder. Skateboarding could be a key to character development and esteem building. She experienced taking her son to court several times and had fines imposed. She urged support for the PAMC revision. Council Member Patitucci referred to a drawing which was received regarding various devices used by skateboarders. He referred to theconcrete areas in some of the parks and suggested one might be equipped adequately for skateboarders. Mr. 2aner said the liability issues were the major concern. A, ;1D : Council ICeaber Pat ituvci moved, seconded by Levy, that staff explore the cost of providing skateboard areas in parks. Council Member Woolley supported the concept and assumed it could return to the Policy and Procedures (P&P) Committee in October. If Council requested a report on the feasibility of a recreational area, it might take longer than October. Council Member Cobb supported the amendment but noted the difficult budget process. If the concept could be done at minimal cost, it sight be worth pursuing. City Attorney Diane Northway did not know whether the October date was realistic for the ordinance. Council Member Patitucci did not necessarily want the cost estimates done in the same time frame ag the legal changes. He just believed the City should look into the matter. AMINDIC77 PAB$BD by a vote of •-1, Butorius voting „no." Council Member Bechtel believed skateboards should be treated like bicycles. She encouraged support of the motion. ANZUOMMAT: Council Member Pletcher moved, seconded by Reams, to seek the advice of the Palo Alto Bicycle Advisory Committee (P C). prior to hearing the item at the Policy and Procedures (P6P) Committee. Vice Mayor Klein opposed the aaen0Aent because the main motion was a referral to thee P&P Committee to study the issue with regard to the PANC and with regard to whether to accommodate skateboarding in a public park. PABAC was welcome to testify at the committee level. Council Member Levy said there were some analagies in skateboarding and bicycling and it was not appropriate to single out one advisory group related to bicycles. He urged that other cities and states be reviewed to see what they eters doing. 6S-186 7/25►/88 i Council Member Menzel did not believe it hurt to request the information from PABAC and have it available when the P&P Committee considered the matter in order to understand what the interrelationships might be. She supported the amendment. Council Member Fletcherbelieved the P&P Committee should have the best advice available. Vice Mayor Klein agreed that PABAC should testify but believed it was inappropriate for Council to set forth e series of people that should testify. The P412 Committee was composed of four members of the City Council, and if they wanted people to testify, they would ask. AMMILIBT PILED by a vote of 2-7, Menzel, Fletcher voting naye.n Council Member Fletcher said the Section 21968 of the 1982 edition of the California Vehicle Code clearly stated that r.o skateboard may be propelled on any sidewalk, roadway, etc. Section 21967 said the local jurisdict.io.ks could make rules and regulations by ordinance or regulation prohibiting or restricting persons from riding or propelling skateboards en roadways --not ordinances permitting skateboards on roadways. She believed that would be a material consideration. Mayor Sutorius supported the motion. MOTION AB MEND= IMMO unanimously. 6. Update Report on the Current Water Shortage (1410-02) (MPG) City Manager Bill Zaner said currently business, industry and commercial were doing very well with regard to water conservation. Residential users were doing a good job but it needed to be substantially bettor. In order to meet the guidelines handed down by San Francisco Botch Retchy, Palo Alto needed a conservation effort by residential customers of sou/Where in the neighborhood of about 25 percent. They were now running about 17 percent. The fact that Palo Alto's wells were turned on provided an opportunity to almost break even. August, September and October were the heavy water user mon` ola 'and Pelo Alto would need to pick up a few more percentage points on the residential side to make the total Botch Botchy allotment. If Palo Alto failed to meet its conservation target, it would be fined. He listed the different and numerous ways in which the water conservation effort wee publicised. Be directed the Utilities Department to prepare a mandatory conservation pr am for Council's consideration. The plan Was to bring the item to Council on August 15, 1988, and it was patterned after exactly tIle same rate penalties the city would pay to Retch Tetchy. Thu aroposal would be for Council to review and adopt the plan on a standby basis. If it was not neede4 and the City was not in danger of receiving pemalties from Retch Hetchy, then it would not be put into operation. If it looked as if the City was in 60--197 7/25/88 danger of receiving the penalties, then the plan would be put into effect. If the wells had not been turned on and if Hetch Hetchy's penalty system were in effect last month, with all its conservation, the City would have been fined in excess of $300,000. Council Member Fletcher asked about the advantage of not having mandatory controls. hr. Zaner said mandatory controls for the next four months would cost the City $150,000, The City had experience and the last tine it put on controls, it immediately received 2,000 telephone calls. There had to be a process system for exemptions, some people did not understand how the controls worked and people were needed to explain, and there needed to be ordinance enforcement. The process was.expensive and if the City coulca avoid spending the $150,0006 it would prefer to do so. On the other hand, if that was the cost of avoiding the fine, it would be built into the system and pa id . Council Member Cobb asked if the different taste in his water had to do with the use of the wells. Mr. Zaner said the wells had been on for well over a week, and in the early days, there were no comments. There had been some comments in the past few days from people who said they could detect a change in the water's taste. Council Member Cobb asked whether the City's mailers made it clear that if the City did not achieve more conservation, it would be subject to fines that would be passed on to the customer. Mr. Zaner said yes. Ninety percent of the residential water was irrigation. Only a small percentage of water used in a residence was used for sanitary and cooking purposes. Irrigation was the easiest to cat back on. Council Member Bechtel saw the ads and flyers; yet, in talking with members of the eosmunity, the perception was that there was not a crisis this time." She believed it night be because the City had backup wells.. She was not sure the message was getting out in spite of the amount of material. Mr. Zeiler agreed people did not believe the City was at the edge. Mayor Sutorius agreed. with Council Member Bechtel. It was a serious situation and. the. City needed to find other more st,taulating ways of getting the message aegis. It would be unfortunate if there was any reliance on the fact that either the wells were the answer to the problem or that the rate increase would be the educational tool. With regard to the taste of the water, the closer ones source of water to the well, the higher the pr eeur°e for the water. 60-198 7/25/38 ATTEST: NO ACTIOA TM= 7. Report on Shoreline Amphitheater Noise Issue (1401-01) (NPG) Mayor Sutorius pointed out the complaint level in Mountain View was nothing like Palo Alto's. He and the City of Mountain View Mayor would be caking contact with some of Palo Alto's citizens, and would regain flexi;.le and available to be on site to directly experience the noise levels. There was some potential for the further codification of output which were also being pursued. NO LION TAM ADJOURNMENT Council adjourned to a Closed Session re Employer/Employee Relations at 9:40 p.m. Final Adjournment at 10:20 p.a. APPROVED: d(0 ty erk .�. i ■ M or NOTE: Sense minutes (synopsis) are prepared in accordance with Palo Mt» ':unicipal Code Section 2.04.200 ib) . The City Council meeting tapes are retained in the City Clerk's Office for two years following the date of the meeting, and the Finance and Public. Works Committee and Policy. and Procedures Committee Ming tapes are retained for six son s. Members of the public may listen to the tapes during regular office tc . 's. • 60-199 7 j25/88 c i s