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Special Meeting
June 6, 2016
The City Council of the City of Palo Alto met on this date in the Council
Chambers at 5:00 P.M.
Present: Berman arrived at 5:05 P.M., Burt, DuBois, Filseth, Holman,
Kniss, Scharff, Schmid, Wolbach arrived at 5:14 P.M.
Absent:
Closed Session
1. CONFERENCE WITH CITY ATTORNEY
Existing Litigation - 1 Matter
Authority: Government Code Section 54956.9(d)(1)
Buena Vista MHP Residents Association v. City of Palo Alto, et al.
Santa Clara County Superior Court, Case No. 115CV284763
Existing Litigation - 1 Matter
Authority: Government Code Section 54956.9(d)(1)
Toufic and Eva Jisser, and the Toufic and Eva Jisser Revocable Trust v.
City of Palo Alto, et al.
United States District Court for the Northern District of California – San
Jose Division, Case No.5:15-CV-05295 EJD.
Mayor Burt: Our first item tonight is a Closed Session item, which is a
conference with the City Attorney regarding potential litigation, two related
matters, the first being Buena Vista Mobile Home Park Residents Association
versus the City of Palo Alto, the second being the Toufic and Eva Jisser and
the Toufic and Eva Jisser Revocable Trust versus the City of Palo Alto. I will
entertain a Motion to go into Closed Session.
Council Member Kniss: So moved.
Mayor Burt: Motion by Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Holman: Second.
Mayor Burt: Seconded by Council Member Holman.
MOTION: Council Member Kniss moved, seconded by Council Member
Holman to go into Closed Session.
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Mayor Burt: Please vote on the board. That passes unanimously with
Council Members Wolbach and Berman not present. We will now go into
Closed Session.
MOTION PASSED: 7-0 Berman, Wolbach absent
Council went into Closed Session at 5:02 P.M.
Council returned from Closed Session at 6:14 P.M.
Mayor Burt: The Council has just returned from a Closed Session, Item Number 1. There is no reportable action.
Agenda Changes, Additions and Deletions
Mayor Burt: Our next item is Agenda Changes, Additions and Deletions. We
actually have made changes from the published Agenda. One is that Item
Number 18 has been moved forward.
Beth Minor, City Clerk: Correct. To be Agenda Item 14A. It'll be right after
the bid, the second item on Action.
James Keene, City Manager: You're also removing Item 15.
Mayor Burt: Item 15 is being removed from tonight's Agenda, rescheduled
...
Mr. Keene: For the 27th of June meeting. That is the Storm Drain Blue
Ribbon Committee recommendations regarding future storm water management funding. One other just technicality, Mr. Mayor. There is an
at-places memo related to Item Number 10 on the Consent Calendar,
approval of the first amended agreement with the San Francisquito Creek
Joint Power Authority. It really is just a reformatted item. The substance of
the item stays the same.
Mayor Burt: Thank you.
City Manager Comments
Mayor Burt: Our next item is City Manager Comments. Mr. Keene.
James Keene, City Manager: Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council Members. I did
want to share with the Council that the City has been recognized as a One
Star winner by the Green Electronics Counsel as part of its Sustainable
Purchasing Awards program, which recognizes excellence in the procurement
of sustainable electronics. The award was the result of a collaboration
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between our Information Technology (IT) and Purchasing Departments. The
combined impact of all the 38 winners announced in this program resulted in
almost $17 million in energy savings and greenhouse gas reductions. Other
One Star winners include such cities as the City of Seattle, the District of
Columbia, and the Province of Nova Scotia. Also, as we do year after year,
our City's Administrative Services Department received a Government
Finance Officers Association award for achievement of excellence in financial reporting for the 2015 Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. The City has
received this award going 19 straight years which does represent obviously a
long-term, consistent record of exemplary financial management and
reporting. Accounting Manager Laura Kirk and her team in Administrative
Services Department (ASD) are to be specially recognized for their efforts in
that regard. As you know, the VTA, Valley Transportation Authority, has
engaged a consultant to review existing bus routes and make
recommendations for future routing and scheduling resulting in the
development of three concepts for public review and comment. At our
request, the City's request, VTA hosted a community meeting on
Wednesday, May 18th, at the Rinconada Library to present what they call
the three next network concepts. Our Staff has been following this study closely, and we share our community's concerns regarding the level of cuts
to service within Palo Alto under both what they call the 80 percent and the
90 percent concepts that were presented by VTA. Without getting into the
details of what those measurements mean, our concern is of course that
students, commuters and seniors who rely heavily on the service provided
by Route 35, Route 88 and Route 89 to travel to and from school, work and
services could be affected by these recommendations. These routes also
provide direct connections to Caltrain, helping to support ridership on our
key transit link. While some of our Palo Alto routes do not generate high
levels of ridership when compared with some other VTA routes, the transit
choices report prepared by Jarrett Walker and Associates for VTA in February
2016 identifies Palo Alto as one of the top activity centers in Santa Clara
County. As the Council well knows, this is due to the high concentration of
employment and residential density. In fact, Downtown Palo Alto is one of
only four zones in the County in the top tier for activity density related to
these transportation measures. We hope that, as the next network initiative
moves forward, VTA staff will look for ways to better serve Palo Alto and
achieve both the City's goal for more convenient transit service and VTA's
goal of improved efficiency. I have just signed today a letter to VTA General
Manager Nuria Fernandez strongly opposing the recommendations of the 80
and 90 percent concept and requesting they limit service cuts to Palo Alto as
they move forward. The topic of the Middlefield Road/North California
Avenue Complete Street project, the Planning and Community Environment
Department cordially invites our community members to attend an open
house this Thursday, June 9th, in the City Council Chambers between 6:30
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P.M. and 8:30 P.M. to learn about a minor roadway restriping project along
Middlefield Road between Channing Avenue and Oregon Expressway and on
North California Avenue between Alma Street and Jordan Middle School. Our
Staff will present the revised concepts which include measures to reduce
vehicle speeds, a separated bikeway in front of Jordan Middle School, new
crosswalks where needed, and operational improvements at several
signalized intersections. In response to community feedback on the last proposal in January, the current concept maintains most existing on-street
parking on both sides of Middlefield Road and does not include bicycle lanes.
Additional information on the project can be found on the City's website
under transportation. Project Safety Net, our community collaborative
related to youth well-being, has distributed a community survey as a follow-
up to the Federal Center for Disease Control Epi-Aid investigation here in
Palo Alto, that asks our residents and students, who must be at least 13
years of age to participate, about their insights and attitudes related to Palo
Alto's efforts to prevent and respond to youth suicide. The online survey is
available in English, Spanish and Chinese. To access the survey, one can go
to the Project Safety Net website at psnpaloalto.com. The survey is
anonymous and runs from last Friday, June 3rd, through the 24th of June. The information will be shared with the various stakeholders in the Center
for Disease Control Epi-Aid process. Just a comment related to the Council
Consent Agenda. I'll just do it here, right now. I did want to say thanks to
Herb Borock for his comments on the High Speed Rail comment letter. Our
Staff looked at the suggestions and will be happy to add a request that Palo
Alto participate in the Section 106 process for historic resources. With that
change, we're recommending approval of the draft letter which was crafted
with input from the Council's Rail Committee. Other than acknowledging the
passing of Muhammad Ali, that's all I have to report.
Mayor Burt: Thank you.
Oral Communications
Mayor Burt: Our next item is Oral Communications for items that are not
otherwise on the Agenda. We have three speaker cards. If there are any
other speakers who wish to speak, they need to bring a card forward at this
time. Our first speaker is Claude Ezran, to be followed by Doria Summa.
Welcome.
Claude Ezran: Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Council Members. I'm Claude
Ezran, 770 Seale Avenue. I would like to invite all of you as well as
members of this audience and people who are watching us to Palo Alto
World Music Day, which this year will take place on Sunday, June 19th,
which is also Father's Day, on University Avenue, which will be closed to
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traffic. It will be from 3:00 P.M. to 7:30 P.M. I want to mention also that
it's the eighth time now that we're having this festival in Palo Alto. It's
becoming a good habit. We named this festival World Music Day; there are
two meanings behind World Music Day. One is music from around the
world. Let's not also forget that it's a celebration that is taking in place in
something like 120 countries around the world, around the summer solstice
on June 21st. For instance in the U.S., New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Diego, Pasadena are having huge celebrations. Oftentimes it's on June 21st
which is the exact date of the solstice. In that case, we usually call the
event Make Music Day. In Palo Alto, we expect to have about 42 musical
groups playing jazz, classical music, pop, rock, Greek music, music from
Eastern Europe and so on. This event would not have been possible without
a very generous grant from the Stanford Federal Credit Union, which by the
way is not only sponsoring Palo Alto World Music Day but also several other
public events organized by the City or sponsored by the City of Palo Alto. I
want to thank them for a very generous contribution. Finally, I want to say
there are many employees of the City who are involved in organizing this
event and helping me. I want to highlight first the help from the Palo Alto
Police Department. Some of the officers have volunteered to work during Father's Day, so I'm very thankful for their contribution. Also, there are two
employees from the Community Services Department, Amy Johnson and
Stephanie Douglas, who have been very, very supportive of our efforts. I'm
very, very thankful to all they have done to help me. I hope to see you
there on Sunday, June 19th. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Doria Summa, to be followed
by Rita Vrhel.
Doria Summa: Good evening, Mayor Burt, City Council and City Staff. Doria
Summa, College Terrace. I sent you an email and photos regarding an
event that occurred in College Terrace last Friday morning. I'm here to
follow up on that. On Friday morning, an extra-long truck came up
Cambridge Avenue and attempted to turn left onto Yale Street. The truck
could not make the turn, partially because of the traffic circle. After much
maneuvering, the truck was able to go back up to Cambridge, then the truck
attempted to turn right going the other direction onto Yale Street. Of
course, it couldn't make this turn either because of the traffic circle and
parked cars. It ended up taking out the stop sign, shearing the hydrant,
sending the hydrant and a giant geyser of water into the air. The hydrant
landed 23 feet away, narrowly missing an occupied building. It could have
injured vehicles or bystanders. This accident never should have happened.
The truck was not on an approved truck route, nor was it on the route
allowed by the construction logistics plan for its destination, 1601 California
Avenue, the upper Mayfield site. Trucks cutting through the neighborhood
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for this project and others have been a frequent occurrence over the last two
years. The College Terrace Neighborhood Association has worked with
Stanford and Public Works Staff for years to try to prevent just these types
of incidents and to keep large trucks from cutting through residential streets.
After the accident, the driver told me that he had no idea how to get to the
site and had not been given any instructions or a map. The approved route
to this site is Page Mill to Hanover and then up California Street. Since he didn't have this information, he called his supervisor in Oregon, who
instructed him to cut through the neighborhood which led to this event. We
greatly appreciate all the efforts and help by Public Works Staff and Police
Department, even very recently two weeks ago, to remind project leaders
that their large trucks need to use the approved routes. Even so, this
accident took place. We hope to work together with all parties to find
solutions such as effective signage and better communications and
accountability. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Rita Vrhel, to be followed by
our final speaker, Sea Reddy.
Rita Vrhel: Good evening. I have a copy of a letter from Jaclyn Schrier that
I have provided to each one of you. It talks about Mayor Burt's comments on May 16th regarding tech firms in Downtown not being in compliance with
the zoning laws. I was here for that meeting, so I did hear that comment.
This letter brings out the issue of violation of permitted administrative,
medical and professional uses. I'm not sure if that is or is not correct. I do
wonder, since the comment was made, how the City goes about having
these companies come into compliance with the existing zoning laws or is
that a concern. I think the writer of this letter makes several excellent
points, which are shared by many in the community. If anyone on the City
Council would care to email me and provide any information as to how I
should proceed, should I go to the Fire Department, should I go to Policy
and Services, where do I go. Thank you. The other thing is that a couple of
weeks ago the Olive Garden project was approved. I was also here for that
meeting. It appeared that there was no transportation mitigation policy—I
hope I'm calling it the right thing—but at the end of the meeting, everybody
agreed that a 30 percent reduction in transportation would be worthwhile. I
guess I have question as to how are these transportation mitigation policies,
once they're put into place, followed. Do the companies submit data to the
City Council or to someone? Is this just an idea which everyone hopes will
come to fruition? Are the programs actually occurring with substantive
results? It seems like traffic is still horrible. Again, if anybody wants to
email me on how these programs are implemented and monitored, I would
be grateful for that. Thank you.
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Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our final speaker is Sea Reddy. Welcome.
Sea Reddy: Good evening. I want to take this opportunity to side with
Doria about the concerns of the construction going on in our neighborhoods.
I noticed today there is like seven to eight trucks all around us, surrounded
by a huge amount of whatever. I plead with the people that are working in
that industry to be careful. We have a lot of people that are riding their
bikes and walking. Be very careful. That's the only way that we could minimize, and we want zero accidents. Not low accidents, zero accidents.
Thank you. I also want to take this opportunity to congratulate the two
winners that'll be tomorrow's election. I can read the tea leaves. Is that
how they call it in America, they say in America? I congratulate them. It's a
very open process. We've spent $2.3 million, I heard. We're going to spend
another million-plus. It doesn't have to be. Ideas don't need to be that
expensive. I was talking to Dr. Robert Reich the other day. I said, "What do
you even need 1,500? You could do it with your ideas." I think we are
getting there. Our ideas are heard. I appreciate your kindness, your
thoughtful suggestions, the friends I made. It's nothing to complain about.
I'll continue the journey, possibly at the 18th District level to Congressional
District in 2018. Thank you all.
Mayor Burt: Thank you.
Minutes Approval
2. Approval of Action Minutes for the May 9 and May 16, 2016 Council
Meetings.
Mayor Burt: Our next item is approval of Minutes. We have Minutes from
the meetings of May 9th and May 16th.
Vice Mayor Scharff: So moved.
Council Member Berman: Second.
Mayor Burt: Motion to approve by Vice Mayor Scharff, seconded by Council
Member Berman.
MOTION: Vice Mayor Scharff moved, seconded Council Member Berman to
approve the Action Minutes for the May 9 and May 16, 2016 Council
Meetings.
Mayor Burt: Please vote on the board.
MOTION PASSED: 9-0
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Consent Calendar
Mayor Burt: Our next item is the Consent Calendar. Entertain a Motion to
approve.
Female: (inaudible)
Mayor Burt: I was going to allow public speaker after the Motion to approve.
Council Member Kniss: So moved.
Council Member Holman: Second. Looking to the maker of the Motion,
that's incorporating the recommendations and suggestions by Mr. Borock
and confirmed by City Manager?
Council Member Kniss: Yes.
Council Member Holman: That's Item Number 13.
Mayor Burt: Can I ask a clarification? Is it incorporating specifically what
Mr. Borock said or what the City Manager said he intended to do, not
necessarily identical?
Council Member Holman: I understand. Correct me if I'm wrong. I
understood the City Manager to concur with Mr. Borock's comments
regarding Section 106 process. I thought there was some reference to his
suggestion about commenting dates also, which were in the latter part of
Mr. Borock's letter.
Mayor Burt: I'm just wanting to clarify whether you are explicitly saying
Mr. Borock's language as opposed to the thrust and at the City Manager's
discretion.
James Keene, City Manager: I'd really prefer, I think, the Staff's comments
were to be responsive and respectfully responsive to Mr. Borock's
comments. I'd feel better if the—I can't find them right now. The way that I
expressed it would be the language that he would be asking us for.
Council Member Holman: Say that again please.
Mr. Keene: The way that I had worded during the Manager's Comment
would be the direction, the change that's correct.
Council Member Holman: If you could find that to repeat it, it would be
most helpful. Apologies.
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Mayor Burt: I think the distinction is whether we are adopting it with the
City Manager's statement that he intended to address the thrust of what
Mr. Borock's comments were.
Council Member Holman: That's what I'm trying to get clarification on.
Mr. Keene: Sorry. I'm looking for that right now. Hillary, could you come
up here and help me with this? Just (crosstalk).
Mayor Burt: Jim, I'm not sure that she's looking for the exact language but the intent.
Council Member Holman: Yeah.
Mr. Keene: The intent was to be responsive to the comments in part.
Hillary Gitelman, Planning and Community Environment Director: Thank
you. Hillary Gitelman, the Planning Director. We spent some time reviewing
Mr. Borock's suggestions. Our thought was to incorporate his suggestion
regarding Section 106. The other comments related to the comment period
and the duration of that, we felt like we didn't need to incorporate those.
We've completed the letter. It's going to meet the deadline as originally
articulated by the agencies.
Mayor Burt: Is that acceptable?
Council Member Holman: Yes. I'd specifically reference Section 106. Just a quick process point. I thought we usually heard from members of the public
who wanted to speak to the Consent Calendar before we made a Motion
about the Consent Calendar.
Mayor Burt: I don't know.
Council Member Holman: I'm pretty sure we do, because it could be that a
member of the public could influence our vote potentially.
Mayor Burt: It's certainly before we vote. That Motion to approve has been
made by Council Member Kniss, seconded by Council Member Holman, with
the modification as stated by Director Gitelman. We have one speaker,
Omar Chatty, to speak on Item Number 13.
Omar Chatty, speaking regarding Agenda Item Number 13: Hello. My
name's Omar Chatty. As you know, from time to time I come to this
esteemed Council and the Mayor to give you the latest kill numbers on
Caltrain High Speed Rail since 1995, when the Peninsula Joint Power Board
and High Speed Rail and Sacramento agreed to use the Caltrain standard-
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width tracks. Two hundred sixty-five people have been slaughtered on these
tracks since 1995; 75 have been killed since I've been coming to you for the
last 5 years, and six this year. Like clockwork, turning a calendar, one a
month at least on this track. Admittedly, many of them are suicides, but it's
very easy to do. It's unfortunate how many have been Palo Altans, even if
they have to go to Mountain View to kill themselves. I think the comments
from Palo Alto are not unreasonable. I hope you will consider them and Mr. Borock's input. I do want to comment that the Federal and State safety
people have not discussed blended solution. It's a political solution with
political bodies, not Federal and State safety. It is not unlikely that the
safety people will come back and say, at the State or Federal level, you can't
have four train different speeds between 50 and 110 miles an hour on the
same single track where you're doing a two-track, even with positive train
control. I would ask you please to consider again Bay Area Rapid Transit
(BART). At least reaching out because it's going to take 15, 20 years and
over 200 people will die. Less die with BART, but there are still some
suicides. I want to remind you of something Joe Simitian seems to overlook.
In 2008, the people of Palo Alto gave a two-thirds vote for BART to San Jose
using operation and maintenance. That's what that was about in 2008. It was two-thirds. That's been ignored by the City Council and others.
However, luckily in November we had Redwood City voters vote out of office
Mrs. Jim Hartnett, whose husband is the Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the
Caltrain High Speed Rail and, until last year, was on the High Speed Rail
Board. Maybe that's one way to approach knocking out High Speed Rail in
addition to the future ballot measure. On the November ballot measure
proposed by the Leadership Group and VTA, it's important to note that $1
billion of that is for Caltrain, really High Speed Rail, the grade separations
and the electrification. All that's for High Speed Rail. Hopefully the public
will be aware of that and kill it. That's unfortunate to say that. If we do get
grade separations, I would encourage this Council to consider making the
grade separations wide enough to handle BART in the future when the
people realize what's going on or decide to support BART over Caltrain and
allowing for two tracks and a single track for the freighter. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Council Member Schmid, did you have a question?
Council Member Schmid: Yeah. The Motion, I think the City Manager
requested to substitute an at-places "10" for "10" in the packet. Is that
included in the Motion?
Council Member Kniss: Of course.
Council Member Holman: Agreed.
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MOTION: Council Member Kniss moved, seconded by Council Member
Holman to approve Agenda Item Numbers 3-13 including changes to Agenda
Item Number 10- Approval of the First Amended Agreement With the San
Francisquito… as outlined in the At Place Memorandum and Agenda Item
Number 13- Approval and Authorization for the Mayor to Sign… as outlined
during City Manager Comments.
3. Resolution 9590 Entitled, “Resolution of the Council of the City of Palo
Alto Approving two Escrow Deposit and Deposit Agreements,
Authorizing the Deposit of $6.1 Million Into Escrow Funds Related to
two Series of Library and Community Center General Obligation Bonds
and $2 Million for the University Avenue Parking Assessment District
Bonds for the Purpose of Early Redemption of Such Bonds, and
Authorizing Related Actions.”
4. Approval of Contract Number C16163554 for $206,056 With
Trafficware for San Antonio Road SynchroGreen Adaptive Timing
System Implementation and an Associated Amendment of the Budget
Appropriation for the General Fund and Capital Fund.
5. Resolution 9591 Entitled, “Resolution of the Council of the City of Palo
Alto Summarily Vacating a Public Utility Easement at 3276 Kipling Avenue.”
6. Acceptance of the Palo Alto Fire Department Quarterly Performance
Report for Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2016.
7. Approval of Four Contracts for On-Call Inspection and Plan Review
Services in a Combined Amount Not-to-Exceed $7,700,000 Over a
Three Year Term Ending June 30, 2019 With: (1) 4Leaf, Inc.; (2)
Kutzmann and Associates, Inc.; (3) SAFEbuilt; and (4) Shums Coda
Associates.
8. Approval of a Contract With Airport Management Consulting Group in
the Amount of $183,008 for Planning and Consulting Services at Palo
Alto Airport, Including Evaluation of Options in Managing the Office
Spaces and Hangars, Development of Primary Management and
Compliance Documents Including the Airport Rules and Regulations,
Minimum Business Standards and Leasing/Rents and Fees Policies, and
Related Matters; and Approval of Budget Amendments in the General
Fund and Airport Fund.
9. Approval to Amend the Current Purchase Order to Include Equipment
for new Ambulance Purchase.
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10. Approval of the First Amended Agreement With the San Francisquito
Creek Joint Powers Authority and its Member Agencies for Funding of
Construction of the San Francisquito Creek Flood Reduction,
Ecosystem Restoration, and Recreation Project, San Francisco Bay to
Highway 101.
11. Ordinance 5384 Entitled, “Ordinance of the Council of the City of Palo
Alto Repealing Ordinance Number 4936, the Council's Prior
Authorization for Natural Gas Purchases (FIRST READING: May 16,
2016 PASSED: 9-0).”
12. Ordinance 5385 Entitled, “Ordinance of the Council of the City of Palo
Alto Amending Municipal Code Sections 12.32.010 (Water Use
Restrictions) and 12.32.020 (Enforcement) (FIRST READING: May 16,
2016 PASSED: 9-0).”
13. Approval and Authorization for the Mayor to Sign a Letter Responding
to the California High Speed Rail Authority's Notice of Intent/Notice of
Preparation.
Mayor Burt: Please vote on the board. That passes unanimously.
MOTION PASSED: 9-0
Action Items
14. PUBLIC HEARING: to Hear Objections to the Levy of Proposed
Assessments on the Palo Alto Downtown Business Improvement
District and Adoption of a Resolution Confirming the Report of the
Advisory Board and Levying Assessment for Fiscal Year 2017 on the
Downtown Palo Alto Business Improvement District.
Mayor Burt: We will now move on to Item Number 14 which is a public
hearing to hear objections to the levy of proposed assessments on the Palo
Alto Downtown Business Improvement District and adoption of a Resolution
confirming report of the Advisory Board and levying assessment for Fiscal
Year 2017 on the Downtown Palo Alto Business Improvement District. Mr.
Keene, did you want to kick it off?
James Keene, City Manager: Mr. Alaee, did you have any opening
comments?
Khashayar Alaee, Senior Management Analyst: I don't have any opening
comments. There is an at-places for you, Mr. Mayor, with some comments,
a script for you.
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Mayor Burt: I'm sorry. We couldn't hear you.
Mr. Alaee: There's a script there for you for reading.
Mayor Burt: Council Members, any discussion? Yes, go ahead and ask
questions at this time. Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: Am I addressing questions to Staff?
Mayor Burt: Who do you want to ask questions of?
Council Member DuBois: I wasn't sure. I guess Mr. Cohen would answer questions or Staff, either one.
Mayor Burt: If there are—Cash, are you prepared to answer all the
questions? There may be some directed toward the representatives of the
Business Improvement District (BID).
Mr. Alaee: I think we're able to certainly answer any questions. I think the
City Attorney is able to answer questions, and Russ is able to answer any
questions.
Council Member DuBois: I'll try to be quick here. We've seen a lot of
growth Downtown. I just wondered has there been any discussion about
changing the boundaries of the Business Improvement District.
Russ Cohen, Palo Alto Downtown Business Improvement District: We
haven't discussed that lately, because in order to expand the boundaries or even increase the fees, we'd basically have to go back to square one and
reorganize and reemerge the organization. That is really problematic in our
view.
Council Member DuBois: I had a question about how you defined the
benefit. Could you maybe speak to that a little bit in terms of what the
benefits are?
Mr. Cohen: I think if you look at our annual report, you'll see a long list of
accomplishments that are the fundamentals of what we do at the BID. The
two fundamentals would be cleanliness and safety. If we don't concentrate
on cleanliness and safety, then we can promote as much as we want, but
nobody will come because it's not safe and it's not clean. Another benefit to
our organization is that we represent all the businesses within the district as
a conduit to City Hall. They count on us to represent their interests here at
this dais.
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Council Member DuBois: it was interesting reading the definitions and
categories of companies. I think a large professional company was
considered ten or more employees. It seemed kind of obvious. There's not
a category for a company with several hundred employees. It's considered
large, I guess.
Mr. Cohen: Ten or more is how we definite it.
Council Member DuBois: If a business has multiple locations, do you charge per (crosstalk)?
Mr. Cohen: Per address.
Council Member DuBois: Just a few quick comments. It was kind of a
mismatch between what's been going on Downtown versus the way the
business development district was set up. It kind of matches our zoning in
terms of categories of companies. Talk a lot about retail, talk about small
professional offices. There's been some stuff in the press lately about kind
of large professional offices. To me, it was striking the mismatch. I do think
as companies come Downtown, there's a lot of benefit to attracting,
recruiting, retaining professional staff that the Business Improvement
District actually contributes to. Some of your lower rates for people that are
on the first floor, who aren't traditional retailers—it's just more of a comment that you might want to think about redefining benefits. I think a
lot of that attractiveness is what's bringing these very large companies
Downtown. I still don't really understand in terms of being able to change
your boundaries or rates, but we have a lot of different boundaries
Downtown. Maybe not for this year, but if you guys could consider maybe
aligning with the Parking Assessment District or some other boundary. I do
think Downtown is growing, but we have this kind of old boundary and kind
of old fees at this point.
Mr. Cohen: I'll certainly take your comments back to the Board.
Council Member DuBois: Just my comments. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: Just looking back through this and trying to
remember—I wasn't on the Council then—why this was established and
when it was established. Is it actually 2004?
Mr. Cohen: 2004.
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Council Member Kniss: Can you remind me what was going on economically
and so forth at that point that brought this together?
Mr. Cohen: I can try. It was certainly ...
Council Member Kniss: Since it was established by the City Council.
Mr. Cohen: ... certainly before my time. I'll try my best. I can call folks like
Barbara Gross and Georgie Gleim who were there at the time of the
foundation of it. As I understand it, the Chamber of Commerce at that time had what they called a Downtown marketing committee. That's how the BID
grew out of that committee. There was an interest in focusing the attention
on Downtown to make it a more vibrant location and a destination. There
was an interest in finding a funding mechanism in which to do that. The BID
actually grew out of the Chamber of Commerce.
Council Member Kniss: It looks like it was formed as a result of, I'm
guessing, the early recession in that decade that persisted at least through
2003.
Mr. Cohen: Some tell me—folklore here; I wasn't here—that you could roll a
bowling ball down University Avenue at that time. It really wasn't ...
Council Member Kniss: And not hit anyone, I presume.
Mr. Cohen: Not hit anyone, right. I didn't finish the metaphor there.
Council Member Kniss: Thank you for the reminder.
Mayor Burt: Vice Mayor Scharff.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Thank you. I'd like to address my questions to Russ as
well. Just briefly, the overview. You collect roughly how much money?
Mr. Cohen: About $131,000 to $140,000. Are you asking how much we
invoice or how much we collect?
Vice Mayor Scharff: How much you collect.
Mr. Cohen: It's just shy of $100,000.
Vice Mayor Scharff: It's about $100,000. After you pay administrative staff
and that kind of cost, what's left?
Mr. Cohen: About 30.
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Vice Mayor Scharff: What do you with that 30? What did you do with that
30,000 roughly?
Mr. Cohen: If you look at our budget that is submitted to you, that you
have before you, you'll see exactly how we allocate those funds. Everything
from administrative costs to event planning, printing, postage, the list goes
on. Lamp post banners are a big expense. Lamp post banners that you see
throughout Downtown, that's a major expense. Our financial audit every year is a major expense.
Vice Mayor Scharff: You talked about—the primary goals were cleanliness
and safety. Yet, the City is the one who pays for all that.
Mr. Cohen: Not exactly accurate.
Vice Mayor Scharff: The BID pays for none of it.
Mr. Cohen: That's not exactly accurate either. We partner with the Parking
Assessment District. Up until this year, there was money allocated for street
cleaning or sidewalk cleaning. We also contribute to the Downtown Streets
Team. We promote their efforts financially.
Vice Mayor Scharff: What do you do for the Downtown Streets Team when
you say do it? When I read through the list of accomplishments, it feels to
me like what you really do is you do a lot of event planning, which is great.
Mr. Cohen: Some.
Vice Mayor Scharff: You put signs out, and you advocate on behalf of the
businesses in the Downtown. Everything else the City actually pays for, and
you take credit for it. That's sort of how it feels.
Mr. Cohen: That could be how it feels, because we do pride ourselves on
public-private partnerships. One of our greatest partners is the City of Palo
Alto itself. For example, I might come to the City, and I might advocate for
Public Works, for example, to paint the University Avenue tunnels. Now, we
did not pay for that project, but we advocated for that project. We made it
a priority for the Public Works to get that project done. You're absolutely
right. We'll take credit for getting the project done and spearheading that
effort. From a funding standpoint, no, we did not pay for it. That's a good
example.
Vice Mayor Scharff: In the last year, what were the three things you think
would not have happened if it wasn't for the BID?
Mr. Cohen: You're asking me to remember my accomplishment list.
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Vice Mayor Scharff: I'm asking you the top three things you're proud of,
that you think would not have happened if it wasn't for the BID.
Mr. Cohen: I think our lamp post banner program defines our district in a
differentiating way than any other downtown. I'm particularly proud of that,
because it helps brand our Downtown. What typically happens in a
downtown is there are banners that are put up once a year, and they last for
probably 10 years. They get old and stale, and they do not differentiate the downtown experience as we have with our banner program. Our banner
program is unique. Once again, for that program what we've done is form
private-public partnerships and found sponsors to underwrite the cost of
changing out those banners at least four times a year. The installation may
come out of our budget, but the actual production does not.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Thank you.
Mayor Burt: I have a couple of follow-up questions for you, Russ, and then
for Staff. On Page 290 of the Packet, it talks about the sidewalk cleaning,
steam cleaning, once a month. Who pays for that?
Mr. Cohen: That did come out of the Parking Assessment District funds.
Mayor Burt: What's then the relationship between the Assessment District
and the BID?
Mr. Cohen: We, for the last five years, have been the administer of the
Parking Assessment District Committee. That used to be a standing
committee of the Chamber of Commerce. What was realized over time was
that the issues that were brought forward by the Parking Assessment District
were basically Downtown issues. We took over the sort of administration,
doing the minutes, doing the secretarial duties, and trying to hear what the
issues were and trying to influence that budget.
Mayor Burt: The Downtown Streets Team, is there a funding that is going to
...
Mr. Cohen: There's two funding mechanisms. One through the BID itself in
our budget, and one through the Parking Assessment District. The Parking
Assessment District funds go directly to the Downtown Streets Team
particularly for the maintenance of the garages.
Mayor Burt: What's the dollar amounts coming from the Assessment District
and the BID respectively to the Downtown Streets Team?
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Mr. Cohen: I do know the BID amount off the top of my head, which is
$5,000 per year. I do not remember the amount from the Parking
Assessment District. Barbara reminds me it's about 90.
Mayor Burt: Ninety thousand?
Mr. Cohen: Right.
Mayor Burt: The sidewalk cleaning, you're saying that is an accomplishment
of the BID because you ...
Mr. Cohen: Because we work closely with the Parking Assessment District
and City Staff. I meet regularly with Public Works Staff.
Mayor Burt: I think it would be a lot better if there was language that was
really more credible in terms of what the role is. That's not the way the
report from the BID reads, I think, to an objective reader. Without the
clarification you just provided, I would have interpreted it that the BID was
paying for the sidewalk cleaning.
Mr. Cohen: Duly noted.
Mayor Burt: Just in general, I mean, that's an example. The same thing
when you reference the Downtown Streets Team. $5,000 toward it is
notable, but that's not a primary portion of the funding.
Mr. Cohen: There are two different funding sources and two different buckets in which those funding goes. The Parking Assessment District
funding goes specifically to parking garages. The other funding goes to
support their efforts on the Downtown streets.
Mayor Burt: Did I understand you correctly that there's $5,000 coming from
the BID and $90,000 coming from the Assessment District?
Mr. Cohen: Correct.
Mayor Burt: Does the BID do the billing to the members?
Mr. Cohen: This year, we tried a new offsite system with a third-party
vendor. A company called Muni Services, LLC does the invoicing.
Mayor Burt: What about the collection? You had talked about first
$131,000 to $140,000. When the question was clarified as to the incoming,
it was $100,000. There's X amount invoiced and Y amount collected.
Mr. Cohen: That's correct.
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Mayor Burt: How does that work? Who is responsible for closing that gap
between the billed amount and the ...
Mr. Cohen: Ultimately, it's the BID's responsibility to make sure that we
don't have a gap in that funding. Unfortunately, there is and there always
has been. It's very difficult to close that loop. There is no carrot and stick.
There's a lot of companies out there that simply don't pay their invoices,
their assessment fees. There's a variety of reasons why that happens. I'll give you a couple of examples. Let's take Bank of America, for example. By
the way, the highest assessment fee is a financial institution. They get their
invoice to the local branch, and they don't know what to do with it. They
pass it on to a regional branch. The regional branch sends it to their
company headquarters in South Carolina. They don't know what to do with
it. It just goes into this bureaucratic quagmire, sort of the swirling vortex.
It's very difficult to get a company like Bank of America, for example, to pay
a simple $500 invoice. Another example might be a startup. A startup says
to themselves, "We're only going to be here for a year or two. We're either
going to get sold or we're going to go away. What is the incentive for us to
pay the invoice?" There's a lot of different reasons why they don't pay the
invoice. We're lucky that our attrition rate is what it is; it could be larger.
Mayor Burt: Thanks. I want to direct the other question to Staff around
really the purpose of the BID. The question is about whether the BID has a
lobbying function. We've had the BID come before the Council and be
strong lobbying advocates often against positions that the City is intending
to take. As I look at the Bylaws, there's a section that says including but not
limited to the following activities. Then, it goes into a description of the
following activities that seem to describe what was the intention of the BID,
which really I believe when it was set up didn't include lobbying, but it's
morphed into that. The question is really is that a proper use. If the Council
did not want to enable a body, because we create the BID, who has as one
of its functions to oppose the actions of the Council ...
Mr. Cohen: And support.
Mayor Burt: ... how would we—pardon me?
Mr. Cohen: And support as well.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. We're done. I'm speaking to the Staff.
Mr. Cohen: I'm sorry.
Mr. Burt: You can sit; that's okay. How would we go about addressing that?
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Molly Stump, City Attorney: Thank you, Mayor Burt. City Attorney Molly
Stump. In addition to the Bylaws, which you referred to, there are a couple
of other relevant documents. The Palo Alto Downtown Business and
Professional Association is essentially a contractor to the City and is the
City's partner in administering the—both collecting the funds at an
administrative level and then engaging in the activities benefiting the
businesses in the district. Under both State law and the City's contract with the Business and Professional Association, the purpose of the funds is
described as acquiring, constructing, installing or maintaining improvements
and promoting activities that will benefit the businesses located and
operating within the district. It's really a policy question for the Council as
to whether the activities described in the annual report and otherwise known
to the Council fall within that description or to some degree are other types
of activities. The City's contract with the Downtown Business and
Professional Association provides that if the Council has some concerns
about the proposed activities in the annual report, that there is a pause in
approving that report, which is before you tonight, of up to 30 days to allow
the Staff to consult with the Business and Professional Association to resolve
any Council concerns. That is one option. The Council could engage in that process, and that puts this process on hold for no more than 30 days.
Ultimately, the City does have a contract with the Business and Professional
Association that was entered into in 2004. It is an annual contract that's
renewed automatically by the approval of the annual report that's before you
tonight. That contract potentially at some point could not be approved
and/or it could be terminated during the course of the year on 90 days
notice by either party.
Mayor Burt: This is a Public Hearing, and I'm supposed to provide specific
remarks. If the Council wants to have any other discussion and action,
should I nevertheless open the Public Hearing, provide the remarks and then
consider whatever action, whether it be to go forward or otherwise?
Ms. Stump: Yes. Certainly, you do need to open the Public Hearing and
provide an opportunity for members of the public generally but in particular
the businesses against whom a charge is levied to register their concerns or
comments.
Mayor Burt: At this time, I'd like to open the Public Hearing, which is a levy
of an assessment on businesses in the Palo Alto Downtown Business
Improvement District for Fiscal Year 2017. It's the time and place for the
public hearing on the levy of an assessment on the businesses in the Palo
Alto Business Improvement District for FY 2017. In February 2004, the City
established the Palo Alto Business Improvement District. Annually, the City
must hold a public hearing to authorize the levy of an assessment in the
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next fiscal year. On May 16, 2016, the Council set this time and day as the
time and date of the Public Hearing on the proposed levy of an assessment
for Fiscal Year 2017. The Council appointed the Board of Directors of the
Palo Alto Downtown Business and Professional Association as the advisory
board of the BID. The advisory board has prepared its annual report for the
2017 fiscal year and submitted it to the Council. The City published the
required notice in a local newspaper of record regarding reauthorization of the BID for 2017 as required by bid law. All interested parties will have an
opportunity to provide testimony this evening. At the conclusion of the
public hearing, the Council will determine whether a majority protest exists.
A majority protest will exist if the owners of businesses that will pay 50
percent or more of the proposed levy of an assessment have filed and not
withdrawn a written protest. We've actually already had the brief report by
Staff and the BID representative. The public hearing is open. I see we have
at least one card. Our first speaker is Barbara Gross. Welcome.
Public Hearing opened at 7:04 P.M.
Barbara Gross: Hi. I just wanted to clarify some points as to the origin of
the Business Improvement District and how it came about and why it's
important. The Chamber of Commerce, as Russ described, had a Downtown marketing committee that was an all-volunteer committee. It was
impossible to keep up the amount of volunteer hours that it really took to be
able to create the relationships within City Hall and to follow up on all the
activities that the immediate Downtown core business district really needed
to pay attention to. As a result of that, with some help from actually City
Staff, the Business Improvement District was created. As of today, we work
in concert with the Chamber of Commerce. As the Chamber of Commerce is
concerned with the entire City, the Business Improvement District focuses
on the Downtown. We also have, as Russ said, under our auspices the
parking district committee as well as overlooking Lytton Plaza. The Friends
of Lytton Plaza, who redeveloped that, handed it over to the BID to oversee
its upkeep and improvements, which the BID has by putting in new plants,
encouraging the City, which is great because that's part of the relationship-
building, to install additional trees and umbrellas and some additional tables,
because the park has been so successful. Again, what we do, based on the
official requirements of a Business Improvement District, which is to have
the City administer the funds but have the contract to the Downtown
Professional Association actually activate all of those things. The music on
the plaza and those kinds of events in the Downtown, Meet the Street and
other events in the Downtown, trying to bring business to businesses
together as well as the residential community to come Downtown and enjoy
what they can. The focus is to have a Downtown monitor really overlooking
benches, which Russ does, in concert with the banks and all the people in
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the Public Works Department, the tree wells, the cleanliness of the garages,
the receptacles that he's been working on with the City to replace. There is
this motivation and emphasis to push this focus on the Downtown where it
might not be if it weren't for the Business Association. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. We have a second speaker; it's Brad Ehikian.
Brad Ehikian: Well done. Most people get that fairly wrong, so thank you.
My name is Brad Ehikian, and I am with Premier Properties. We have probably one of the larger management portfolios in Downtown Palo Alto.
We have about 35 properties alone that we have under management. One
of the reasons why I joined the BID was to really get a pulse on what was
happening Downtown. We interact with a lot of tenants and businesses that
are coming into Palo Alto. When I joined, I viewed it as a conduit to the City
and to our businesses, to really get a feeling for what issues were affecting
them. I think it's really important that our businesses do have an outlet to
the City to be able to communicate some of the concerns that they have.
These are things that we're really concerned about. We have a large
interest in making sure that Palo Alto stays vibrant, stays clean and safe.
This is our important market for us, and we really try to protect it. Again, I
want to put out there that I really want to just promote that there's this conduit for businesses to be able to kind of explain some of the concerns
that they have and issues that are affecting them, so that we can help kind
of address some of these issues and make our City better and stronger and
more economically vibrant. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. We have one final speaker, Georgie Gleim.
Welcome.
Georgie Gleim: Thank you. Ditto to everything that's been said before. The
idea for the BID actually came from the City's Economic Development
Manager at the time, when the marketing committee and the Chamber of
Commerce was really struggling with how can we try to promote Downtown
as an entity and do it strictly on volunteer labor which was just getting more
and more difficult. She said there is this instrument call the Business
improvement District; let's investigate. Over the course of two or three
years, I think, we did a lot of surveys. We really crafted the boundaries as
carefully as we could as well as the definitions of the types of memberships
and the levels of assessments that would be charged. One thing I was just
thinking of. If the BID didn't exist, there wouldn't be a Downtown Streets
Team to help keep the City clean and help some of the homeless, because
that organization came from the BID. There wouldn't be a way for the City
to get very organized information from the business community in
Downtown. I do know that there are a lot of different departments—Russ
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has done a wonderful job of engendering relationships with different city
departments. They will come to him and ask for ideas. What can we do
about this? What did the businesses think about that: That would be made
much more difficult and much less—it wouldn't have as uniform a series of
ideas if something like the BID did not exist.
Public Hearing continued to the June 27, 2016 Council meeting.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. That concludes public comments. Molly, if the Council's going to consider whether to either go forward tonight and
conclude the matter or refer it, do I close the public hearing either way or do
I leave the public hearing open if we may be doing this other action that you
described?
Ms. Stump: I think if you're going to take another action, I would suggest
that you keep the Public Hearing open so that we can, when we return,
incorporate any additional comments (crosstalk).
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Vice Mayor Scharff.
Vice Mayor Scharff: A couple of things. I wasn't quite following what your
other action was. The other action was to leave the Public Hearing open and
then, if we raised concerns, talk to the BID Board and come back to address
those concerns. Was that the action?
Ms. Stump: Thank you, Vice Mayor Scharff. The City's contract with the
Business and Professional Association includes a provision wherein if the
Council has concerns about the annual report and proposed activities for the
upcoming fiscal year, that there be a stay in the proceedings—it's described
as a stay—to allow an opportunity for the Association to consider the
Council's comments and potentially for the Staff to work with the Association
and come back to Council within 30 days.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Just to zone in, is it the activities that would be going
forward in the future that are outlined in the report? Is that it?
Ms. Stump: That's correct.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Where are those exactly in the report, the activities
they're doing in the future? I saw a list of accomplishments, but I guess I
didn't focus on a list of what we're doing in the future.
Ms. Stump: As I read it—maybe Mr. Cohen can help us—Section 3 includes
a budget for 2016-17.
Mr. Keene: Presumably that starts July 1st. Is that correct?
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Mr. Cohen: Yeah. The budget reflects where our monies will be allocated in
this fiscal year.
Vice Mayor Scharff: It reflects where the money is going, but it doesn't
reflect what the BID is necessarily going to do. Obviously there's some
overlap, but ...
Mr. Cohen: Many of the activities—if I can clarify for you. Many of the
activities that are listed are the same from year to year. They're ongoing costs and activities.
Vice Mayor Scharff: There's a couple of things you've asked us to do. First
is hold a public hearing, which we're doing. The second was to approve the
Resolution. I saw the Resolution. Then, levy an assessment. Can we levy
the assessment while we think about how we want to restructure the BID?
Ms. Stump: That's a good question. If the Council has concerns, the
process calls for some of those to be articulated this evening to allow the
Staff to work on the item. We would advise you on other types of options
for structuring the activities funded by the assessments when we would
return.
Vice Mayor Scharff: What we should be doing then, as Council Members, is
articulating any concerns we might have. Is that what you're looking—I will do that. First of all, I just need to know what are the non-assessment
sources of revenue that the BID gets? It's a fair number. It's $54,000.
Where does that come from?
Mr. Cohen: $40,000 of that is for our concert series, and that is raised by
myself. I fundraise for that concert series and look for sponsorships for that
series. That is similar with our banner program as well. I'd have to turn to
the actual numbers. That's usually how it works. I go to the community at
large and look for underwriters and sponsors for various projects. As you
can see, our budget is very, very small. I recommend to our Board that if
there's a project or an event that we want to hold, we need to go find people
other than ourselves to fund those activities. Legal is donated to us.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Filseth. I'll just come back to a couple of
things that were raised. On the one hand, the fee structure, as Council
Member DuBois had stated, has essentially up to ten Full Time Equivalent
(FTE) employees—I guess, retailers for some reason it's 11. There's really
not a very graduated fee structure that charges the large firms a lot more.
Am I understanding that correctly? On the other hand, I assume that the
sponsors are probably more often almost invariably from the larger
companies. I think that—yes.
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Mr. Cohen: If I can clarify. That's not an accurate assumption. I'll give you
an example. The summer concert series, we do have one major sponsor,
but we have a long list of minor sponsors. They are not big companies.
Mayor Burt: I think I'd be interested in having a fee structure that reflected
the wide range in sizes of our Downtown employers and have greater
proportionality of the fees to the size of the company. I'll say that even
though some of the reporting on the activities maybe slants the role of the BID beyond its actual role, it does have a facilitation role in a lot of these
things. I think that these are a lot of good activities. From my standpoint, I
actually think that the activities are worthwhile. What I don't see listed
among the activities is essentially acting as a political force. It's not listed
that they're doing it, but that's my concern. I don't think it's an appropriate
role of the BID. When the City Attorney cited the structure of BID's
activities to me, it does not constitute lobbying. I have no problem at all
with the individual members of the BID coming and being active and sharing
their opinions on whatever action the Council is taking. I don't think we
wanted to create an entity that becomes a political force. I think the rest of
what the BID does is great. I don't know whether other colleagues share
any of those interests. Since we'd be giving guidance to Staff without necessarily voting on this, how would that ...
Ms. Stump: The documents do provide that the Council can actually modify
the public report but does suggest that if the Council were going to do that,
that there be this pause to allow the Association to weigh and consider and
work with Staff to respond.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: Actually I just had a question. I was trying
understand with greater clarity about the relationship between the BID and
the Downtown Business Association. Is the Downtown Business Association
just a shorthand for the BID?
Ms. Stump: Maybe I can help with that. The Business Improvement District
is a legal structure. It allows the City through an Ordinance authorized by
State law to create an area where there will be a special assessment. The
purpose of collecting the special assessment is to provide benefits above and
beyond, different than those provided generally. That's a legal structure
that involves boundaries, a formula for rates, the authority to collect. The
Downtown Business and Professional Association is an entity that has been
created under State law to serve as the City's contractor, in essence, to both
handle the billing and collection of that assessment process, but more
significantly then to go ahead and expend those funds and engage in those
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activities on behalf of the City. The Business and Professional Association is
in that sense a contractor to the City.
Council Member Wolbach: Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Since I don't see any lights, I will move that we ask Staff to
engage with the—it's really the Downtown Business Association to—I'm
sorry. I need to pause here a moment. Molly, if there was a change in the
fee structure, is that more complicated than some of these other matters?
Ms. Stump: It is. I'm not an expert in that. I'll need to look at it. At the
time that the Business Improvement District was established, the state of
State law on special assessment districts was a little different. It's frankly
become more difficult and there are more procedural rules. It may be that
we will need to come back and suggest to the Council that modifying the fee
structure is a really substantial effort, both in terms of operational effort and
legal procedures that will need to be followed.
Mayor Burt: Let me modify the Motion then. Direct Staff to review the
mechanisms of modifying the fee structure with the intent to require larger
companies to pay a more proportionate share of the BID. Second, to clarify
the Bylaws so that activities are not construed to mean functioning as a
lobbying group.
Ms. Stump: One clarification. Does the Mayor mean to clarify the City's
contract? The Bylaws are really ...
Mayor Burt: Yes, I'm sorry. The City's contract. That's a better way. I'm
sorry.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I'll second your Motion (inaudible).
Mayor Burt: Seconded by Vice Mayor Scharff.
MOTION: Mayor Burt moved, seconded by Vice Mayor Scharf to direct Staff
to:
A. Review mechanisms for modifying the fee structure to require larger
companies to pay a larger portion of the District costs; and
B. Review mechanisms for modifying the contract with the Downtown
Business Association so that activities are not construed to include
lobbying.
Mayor Burt: I think I've spoken to it enough. Vice Mayor Scharff.
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Vice Mayor Scharff: I agree with Mayor Burt that the lobbying portion of this
seems like a distraction from the goal of the BID, which for me is making the
Downtown cleaner, safer, doing the banners, raising funds to have events,
that kind of stuff. That's really a role of the Chamber of Commerce. I
support that. Looking at the fee structure, I think it's a good plan. I'm a
little concerned about how much time Staff may spend on this. It wouldn't
be my highest priority if we were prioritizing things. I think over time it's good. As long as it's not an "as soon as possible" kind of thing, we do it
before (crosstalk).
Mayor Burt: I meant it to be open, because my assumption was that it may
or may not be something that we could address this year.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Mayor Burt, you might consider—I also have some
concerns, frankly, that when you look at this, most of the money goes
towards an Executive Director's salary, invoicing, that kind of stuff. Frankly,
I probably wouldn't vote to even reauthorize this if it wasn't for the $40,000
or $50,000 that's collected in. I've always thought in the back of my mind
that there may be a better way to do this; that we don't have all of the
money basically going to pay an Executive Director's salary and so small
amount of money actually goes to achieve things in the Downtown. Maybe you can't achieve that without having the Executive Director and staff.
Maybe that's why you need to do it. I'd like to add in there that we direct
Staff over the term to look at other structures of the BID that may provide
more funds to do tangible things as opposed to going to salary.
Mayor Burt: I'm fine with that.
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE
MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion, “investigate other structures
for the Business Improvement District (BID) that may provide a more
efficient use of the funds that minimizes staff and administrative overhead
and focuses more on direct services.” (new Part C)
Mayor Burt: The same thing as with Part A of the Motion, do we need to
clarify that we're not ...
Vice Mayor Scharff: We don't expect this to be the highest priority.
Mayor Burt: Or that it will not necessarily be accomplished in the 30 days.
It may be for the following year.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I thought it would be accomplished in the following
year, not in the 30 days. I think this is too big for the 30 days.
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Mayor Burt: I agree.
Ms. Stump: That's helpful clarification. I think what we would be doing is—I
did want to amplify my earlier comments about the Business and
Professional Association. It certainly is a contractor to the City, but it also
is, as the speaker discussed, in a sense a grassroots organization that's
grown up out of the business community. I didn't wish to slight that aspect
of its function. I think what we would do is use the next few weeks certainly to consult with them, to come back to the Council perhaps with a
recommendation that you go ahead and issue the levy for next year, but
that there be some work that's planned out to address some of these
concerns with the potential for modifications the following year.
Mayor Burt: The contract potentially could be done in the next—those
changes could be done in the next 30 days, right?
Ms. Stump: Potentially.
Mr. Keene: We'd be coming back June 27th, was the thought.
Mayor Burt: I would hope that "B" could be addressed in the next 30 days
with an understanding that "A" and "C" probably will not be able to be.
Ms. Stump: Yeah. Recalling that the Council's Agenda publication means
that that's a week from Thursday, so it's more like 10 days Staff work to address that, but we'll make an effort.
Mayor Burt: Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: I'd like to offer a Friendly Amendment, also within
the timeframe of looking at it for next year, to consider evaluating the
boundaries of the BID to maybe align with another Downtown boundary such
as the Parking Assessment District.
Mayor Burt: That'd be fine.
Vice Mayor Scharff: That's fine.
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE
MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion, “evaluate the boundaries of
the BID to align with other Downtown boundaries.” (new Part D)
Ms. Stump: Just to note for the Council, that one is probably quite a bit like
Item Number A, somewhat more complex.
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Council Member DuBois: I just think if we're going to do it, we might as well
do both.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: I just wanted to turn to Staff for just another
minute here and ask about who on Staff or how does Staff conceptualize—at
first glance, I know this is just coming at you right now. I know that we lost
Mr. Fehrenbach, who I would guess would probably be a primary person on Staff who would be doing work like this. I heard that we're looking at this
maybe for some time in the next year. Do you envision this being doable in
the coming year? I know it's hard to commit off the top of your head.
Mr. Keene: I think we have to bi-furcate the motion with "B" being the
return ASAP before you go on break, and the other items we'd be able to
give a status report on, once we get into the fiscal year, as to what that
would take.
Council Member Wolbach: Can we amend the Motion to do that?
Mayor Burt: We didn't stipulate a timeframe for any of it. Staff has
clarified. I don't know if we've—it doesn't sound like they feel we have to
clarify it in a motion.
Council Member Wolbach: If it doesn't need to be in the Motion, that's fine.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I just changed it, what I wrote down, to be more—I just
want to make sure you're okay with it.
Mayor Burt: If I might just comment on that modification. I'm okay with
Staff evaluating it. I don't have a heartburn over the bulk of the dollars
going to—it's titled an administrator, but there's a great deal of facilitating
functions. Even barring some of the concerns we had on the report, there's
a lot of activities that are things that a person does, and they aren't
necessarily purchasing and physical things. I don't have a great problem
with the way it's structured, but I'm open to Staff looking at it. As long as
Staff is not seeing that as a mandate to make those changes but just to
evaluate.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I agree.
MOTION RESTATED: Mayor Burt moved, seconded by Vice Mayor Scharf
to direct Staff to:
A. Review mechanisms for modifying the Fee Structure to require larger
companies to pay a larger portion of the district costs; and
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B. Review mechanisms for modifying the contract with the Downtown
Business and Professional Association so that activities are not
construed to include lobbying; and
C. Investigating other structures for the Business Improvement District
(BID) that may provide a more efficient use of the funds that
minimizes staff and administrative overhead and focuses more on
direct services; and
D. Evaluate the boundaries of the BID to align with other Downtown
boundaries.
Mayor Burt: We can vote on the board. That passes 8-1 with Council
Member Schmid voting no. Thank you. I'll guess we'll see this back on the
magical 27th. We are now moving on—the public hearing will remain open.
MOTION AS AMENDED PASSED: 8-1 Schmid no
14a. (Former Agenda Item Number 18) Authorization for the Mayor to Sign
a Letter Regarding the Governor's By Right Housing Proposal.
James Keene, City Manager: We are doing Item Number 18, which is now
whatever it is, 14a.
Mayor Burt: 14a, excuse me. Authorization of the Mayor to sign a letter
regarding the Governor's by-right housing proposal. Welcome, Director Gitelman.
Hillary Gitelman, Planning and Community Environment Director: Thank
you. Planning Director Hillary Gitelman. I'm aided this evening by Cara
Silver from the City Attorney's Office. She and a colleague have helped draft
what I hope you received at places this evening, which is an alternate letter.
At the Mayor and Vice Mayor's suggestion, we drafted a letter that included
some suggestions about how the Governor's proposal could be amended.
That substitute letter is before you. We would be happy to answer any
questions.
Mayor Burt: Can I add that the—what instigated that request was the
Council received an update from our Sacramento lobbyist, where the
Governor's Office had opened the door toward the City recommending
changes to the Governor's proposal as an alternative to us opposing it.
Without wanting to presuppose the Council's inclination as to which of those
we want to do, I just wanted to make sure that there was some help if we
wanted to look at recommended changes to the Governor's proposal, what
might that look like that would be consistent with our own policies. It may
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be that we can't find something that meets that requirement. That
additional information, Hillary, is it this set?
Ms. Gitelman: There's a whole substitute letter that was at your places.
Mayor Burt: That's the substitute letter that (crosstalk).
Ms. Gitelman: We do have a few extra copies if there are members of the
public who still need them.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Kniss, questions.
Council Member Kniss: Not a question, a comment. You want questions
now, comments later?
Mayor Burt: Let's go through questions first, and then we can come back for
comments. Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: I actually also had a comment. If I could be put
in queue behind Council Member Kniss.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: Just a quick question. There's not a
recommended or preferred approach here, that's been recommended or
suggested by anybody. These are just alternate approaches. Do I
understand that correctly?
Mayor Burt: That's right. What we have in the second letter is possible amendments to the Governor's proposal as opposed to the other alternative
that we were looking at, which was opposition to the proposal.
Council Member Holman: Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Berman.
Council Member Berman: I had a quick question on the at-places memo, on
Section 1. Under amendments, it says amend Section 65913.3(a)(3) to
clarify that housing developments containing office use do not qualify for by-
right entitlement, which I'm perfectly comfortable with. It goes on to
explain the amendment. I didn't see any ambiguity in the amendment, so
I'm not sure why there's the recommendation for the clarification.
Mr. Keene: Can you help me out with the recommendation for the
clarification, where that's coming from?
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Council Member Berman: By Number 1 on Page 1, it says amend this
section to clarify that housing developments containing office use do not
qualify for by-right entitlement. Then, it says currently the amendment
references Government Code Section 65589.5(h)(2)(b) which defines
housing developments to include mixed-use projects containing
neighborhood commercial defined as small-scale general or specialty stores
that furnish goods and services primarily to residents of the neighborhood. Is there a concern that small-scale general or specialty stores might also
include office?
Cara Silver, Senior Assistant City Attorney: I think the concern is because
the amendment references another Government Code section that could be
amended later, we just wanted to clarify in the new bill language itself that
there should be a reference to community service businesses which are
essentially retail businesses. Also, the underlying language is what we are
proposing to add to the bill, which clarifies that if there is a mixed-use
qualifying project that contains some retail, the retail component should not
magnify the project. It should be the housing component that's greater than
the retail component.
Council Member Berman: There are kind of two things. One is that second part. The first part is a concern that in the future the definition of small-
scale general or specialty stores might change to allow office. To specifically
prohibit office upfront so that's clear to everybody.
Ms. Silver: Correct.
Council Member Berman: That makes sense to me. I think that's the only—
just out of curiosity, why the change from 90 to 120 days? Was that just to
give more time or was there a specific reason for the new number?
Ms. Silver: It's because the bill contemplates that a design review shall take
place in 90 days; however, logistically it really can't start being conducted
until the application is reviewed. The bill allows 30 days for the review of
the application. We thought 120 days more accurately reflects the timely ...
Council Member Berman: The combination of the two. I'm with you.
Thanks.
Mayor Burt: Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: Just looking at this new amendment, could you
speak a little bit more about—this was a change in the opportunity for the
public to review and comment. That was a change to the proposed bill from
the previous version. Is that correct?
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Ms. Gitelman: I think we still have a significant concern, as the League of
Cities does, about the fact that these qualifying housing projects will be
ministerial. They're not really going to be subject to California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) review and the same opportunity for
public comment and discretionary review by the City as they would today. I
think we still capture that at the end of the letter, the alternate letter.
Mr. Keene: If I just might add. I think this is the kind of tricky balance we need to figure out whether we've struck or not between an original proposal
that basically says we oppose the bill because of the fact that it excludes
some of the public processes that we and other jurisdictions deploy to get a
thorough review. Yet, the comment being out there that in many ways says
you better come up with some language changes that we want to be listened
to. That's what we've done, but you could look at that and say, even if we
got those, would that be satisfactory enough to us or do there need to be
some changes. This doesn't mean we're getting everything that we were
trying to get by opposing it, but putting these comments in here.
Council Member DuBois: I'm trying to understand exactly that. Number 2
here, with the 120 day review, is still not really addressing the CEQA
concern.
Ms. Gitelman: That's right.
Council Member DuBois: The public could participate in those 120 days but
are not ...
Ms. Gitelman: Obviously there would be public participation in design
review, but design review as intended by this bill is really a nominal process.
It's not going to be the kind of in-depth Architectural Review Board (ARB)
process that we have now, where we attach conditions and do a whole CEQA
review. We have the potential for multiple hearings at the ARB and a
recommendation to the Director and appeal. None of that would be
available. It would be limited to a perfunctory or a high-level review of
design only during the 90 or 120-day period.
Council Member DuBois: I still find that area probably the most troubling.
We're under a time deadline here, but I didn't know if there was any
discussion of an amendment that would capture some aspect of public
review or if you just felt like that was (crosstalk).
Mayor Burt: Can I just say that this is just a straw man for us to consider.
We're open tonight to either not have any recommended modifications and
oppose; we could support the Governor's proposal; or we could do whatever
in between we want.
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Council Member DuBois: My comment is I'm concerned about the lack of
CEQA review and public participation.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: I'm sorry. I do have one more question. When
we get to motions, we're not looking for exact language; we're just looking
for what we want the letter to include or not. I just want to be clear on that.
Mayor Burt: I think that'd be correct. It'd be with adequate clarity that Staff ...
Council Member Holman: Thank you.
Mayor Burt: ... understands it. Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: I actually realized I did have one question.
Looking at the at-places draft, the amendments draft. On the second page,
Section 3, it talks about the amount of affordable housing to be included
with the project. Sub-items i and ii, are these in parallel or in series? Is this
an "and" or an "or" where, if I'm reading this right, we're talking about at
least 10 percent for low income and five percent? Is it 10 percent of low
income and five percent on top of that of very low income or is it 10 percent
low income or five percent of very low income?
Ms. Gitelman: It's either/or.
Council Member Wolbach: Either/or.
Ms. Gitelman: We're proposing—a suggested change would be in the italics
below, because saying that those low percentages, which are lower than the
City's current inclusionary requirement, should not be allowed if there's an
inclusionary requirement that applies.
Mayor Burt: See above, it says "either."
Council Member Wolbach: Thank you. We just got it, so I was trying to
read it fast. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: We have two members of public who wish to speak. Our first
speaker is Stephanie Munoz, to be followed by Bob Moss. Welcome.
Stephanie Munoz: Good evening, Mayor Burt and Council Members. I'd like
to speak to this and suggest to you that you also want what the Governor
and the Legislature wants. You should be thinking very seriously. You have
a member who's running for Assembly and a concerned citizen in this very
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room also running for Assembly. It seems to me you should get a good idea
of what you would like the Legislature to do for Palo Alto to implement an
orderly and beautiful and acceptable way of low income housing. This is
what I would like to suggest. I would like to suggest that instead of taking a
paternalistic attitude about what you will allow and who will be, you make it
a marketplace decision. I would like to suggest that when you give
permission to build a structure which is higher, you immediately improve the value because the roof and the foundation and the land can all be shared
amongst all units. I'd like to suggest that you start with the model of the
Ronald McDonald House, which is every person that's renting or occupying
the structure gets a big bedroom and a nice, acceptable bathroom and a
little bitty kitchen, like one you'd have in many hotels. I'm sure you've gone
skiing or to resorts, and they all have a little kitchen, like a dorm fridge, a
sink, a little microwave. Let's say it was $400 a month because Social
Security recipients get a minimum of $800. Suppose they want to only pay
that, fine, then they don't have to pay the extra $100 or $200 for the
parking place and the extra $100 for the nice, big storage room in the
basement. Those can be divided up according to wealth. If you've ever
been to Ronald McDonald House, I suggest that you go. The point is that there are community facilities that make up for the rather limited range that
you have. A nice big kitchen with lockers and freezers where you can go
roast that turkey for the 12-person family dinner and little rooms and
computers and viewing rooms. I think anybody could afford that, and you'd
like it. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Bob Moss, to be followed by
Herb Borock.
Bob Moss: Thank you, Mayor Burt and Council Members. This is a new
item; I hadn't seen it in the packet earlier. Looking at the report, it appears
what is being proposed is to eliminate any city control of the Zoning
Ordinance and designation of land uses. For example, it says that you can
build these multifamily housing units on any site which is zoned residential,
which means the R-1 zones and the R-1-10,000 zones are no longer
restricted to single-family homes. They could become apartment sites. It
also talks about not requiring CEQA evaluation, which means if someone
wants to build a large number of these multifamily developments on a street
which is extremely narrow or build housing over a site which is toxically
contaminated, you wouldn't be allowed to do any evaluation and find out
that this could be a real serious problem to health and safety. I think this
proposal is beyond appalling. It's truly stupid. Whoever proposed it has no
concept of proper land use, safety, environmental issues or what makes a
city livable. I would certainly urge that the City Council send a letter
strongly opposing this and point out it is more likely to damage a community
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than to help it. What it's going to do over time is get the developers who
really want to make a ton of money building multifamily units all over single-
family areas. One of the things you might want to do is talk to the people in
Atherton. As I understand it, it would apply to cities statewide. Is Atherton
going to want to have apartment blocks on their property next to the single-
family lots which are half an acre to an acre? I don't think so. This is a
really bad proposal. It's not well thought out, and it will destroy the viability of any place where this is allowed to be developed. I would strongly urge
opposing it and making it clear to the Governor and the Legislature that this
is not something that's very viable or very desirable.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Herb Borock, to be followed by
our final speaker, Shani Kleinhaus.
Herb Borock: Mayor Burt and Council Members, I believe that you should
send the original letter that was distributed with your Agenda packet
material. That letter opposes the Governor's proposal and says it opposes
the proposal because such fundamental policy changes should not be rushed
through but merit extensive review. The response time provided
undermines the principles of transparency and public engagement. That
letter goes on to say that the public who are affected by such projects and such as proposed have a right to have their concerns considered. Such
public review and discussion oppose the accountability of elected officials
and ensures a fair process for all proposals. Now, we have arriving tonight a
change in what should be done and essentially providing a way under certain
circumstances to support the Governor's proposal. It seems almost a
parody of what the proposal itself is. Here we have something arriving at
the last minute with even less opportunity for the public to consider than the
letter that you had in your packet. The Agenda Item was scheduled for
about two hours from now. Instead, it's being held earlier. Those who
would have had an opportunity to have reviewed your original letter and
were expecting it to come up for discussion and approval two hours from
now are not aware that you're discussing something entirely different. In
the interest of following the principles of transparency, extensive review that
have been discussed in your previous letter, which are appropriate for a
proposal of this magnitude and scope, I think this is going in just the
opposite direction to attempt to craft something tonight to try and do
something that you might be able to express approval for when you don't
even know what the changes are going to be that might come about during
the legislative process, which happens very quickly during the budget review
time. I think the best thing to do and to be consistent with those fine
statements that are in the original letter is to approve the original letter and
not attempt to make changes on the fly tonight in advance of the time you
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had originally told the public you were going to be discussing this Agenda
Item. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our final speaker is Shani Kleinhaus.
Shani Kleinhaus: Thank you, Mayor Burt, City Council. I didn't have a lot of
time to study this, but it's been coming to me from a lot of different
directions just today from different organizations throughout the State that
are opposed to this effort to bypass CEQA. The Sierra Club and Audubon generally support CEQA and transparency. We also support affordable
housing, but this seems to be a last minute and not well thought out effort
to bypass transparency and CEQA. I encourage you all to oppose it. Thank
you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Now, we'll return to the Council for discussion.
Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: As part of my being involved with the League of
California Cities, I was at the quarterly meeting of the Tax and Revenue
Committee in Sacramento last Thursday. There was a lot of discussion
about this. There is general concern that—certainly conventional wisdom at
the time would say this is probably going to pass. For that reason and
because I could see that people were not even willing to really commit last Thursday, we didn't vote to oppose or not support. I'd be concerned if we
don't send a letter like this that proposes some amendments so that when
this passes—it's likely to; the Governor is very much in favor of it obviously.
I think this kind of thing, which is what the President of the League had
suggested, make some comments, try to fashion something you think would
work for your city and let us know about it. I think doing this—I heard your
comments, Bob Moss. I know you'd like us to take a strong stand, but I
think in this case this is a balancing issue. If we can get out something now,
it may influence where this is going to go.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: Also, referring to another League of California
Cities event I attended with Council Member Kniss, their quarterly dinner a
couple of weeks back, at which time our local staffer for the League of
California Cities for the Peninsula Division talked about how this was
probably going to be a negotiation, which was hopeful because obviously the
initial recommendation from the Governor was all guns blazing, a broadside
attack on local control. As I mentioned at our table that evening, he has a
point, and that point has been well demonstrated by academic research and
by the Legislative Analyst's Office that local municipalities overstepping and
overusing their local power and local control does have and has had a very
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negative impact on the development of market rate and affordable housing,
leading to this being the number one cause of our housing affordability
crisis. It's good that the Governor has admitted that this is a negotiation.
He's open to discussion. I do think that the political reality that Council
Member Kniss just illustrated is important to remember. If we just oppose
100 percent, we're likely to end up with something pretty bad. If we're
willing to come to the table for negotiation, we might find something that's a more reasonable common ground. I do think that the letter proposing
amendments is pretty good. I do have a couple of major concerns still. One
of which is, as Mr. Borock pointed out, our own process of just moving this
up earlier in the evening. I am concerned about this coming through in the
budget proposal rather than coming through as legislation. I'm not thrilled
with that, but that's something the Governor can do and something he has
done. Again, Council Member Kniss has pointed out that he might be
successful, as much as we don't like it. I do think whatever letter we send
should mention that, perhaps in very strong terms expressing our
displeasure in how this has come about. This is a really, really substantial
proposal, and it does deserve the proper legislative process, going through
legislative committees in both houses of Legislature separate from the budget process. Again, whatever letter we send really ought to highlight our
frustration and disappointment in the Governor trying to ram through this as
part of the budget, because it's just not the right process. I'm open to
hearing more discussion about CEQA. Actually I do have a question. I was
listening carefully to Mr. Moss' comments. I wanted to turn to Staff perhaps
for some clarification. Would this apply to R-1 neighborhoods and would it
overrule our ability to zone a neighborhood as R-1?
Ms. Gitelman: Thank you for the opportunity to clarify, Council Member
Wolbach. The way the Bill is written it would only apply to projects that
conform with our Comprehensive Plan and our zoning. If you were going to
change the zoning, this would not apply.
Council Member Wolbach: That means projects that would get expedited
approval under this proposal would be those meeting the residential unit
limitations stipulated under our zoning?
Ms. Gitelman: That’s correct.
Council Member Wolbach: If our zoning says R-1, an R-40 project couldn't
go in there under this proposal?
Ms. Gitelman: That’s correct.
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Council member Wolbach: That means if we had an R-40 zoning and a
project came in proposing R-30 or R-40, that would then qualify for the
expedited?
Ms. Gitelman: As long as it met the other conditions in this Bill.
Council Member Wolbach: That also means that, as I understand, it would
have to abide by our Comprehensive Plan, our zoning maps and also any
specific or coordinated area plans. Is that correct?
Ms. Gitelman: That's correct.
Council Member Wolbach: I'm still not thrilled with the proposal. I do want
to hear from my colleagues. This is definitely something we're trying to
rush. That is unfortunate, but we do have to get something to Sacramento
for it to be considered. Again, just to loop back with the concerns that
Mr. Moss raised, which I think are worth addressing. As we've just heard
from Staff, this would not overrule our own ability to have our own zoning in
place. I think that is important to keep in mind.
Mayor Burt: We have a number of Council Members who wish to speak. Let
me just add another way that we might consider approaching it, just so that
everybody can think about it in their comments. This is something that the
Vice Mayor was just suggesting to me. We might want to merge the two letters, so that we have a letter that opposes the legislation as proposed and
as part of the budget, and that we offer some recommended changes
without implying or stating that we would support the legislation if the
changes were made. Just a thought. Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: Thank you. Perhaps the latter is the way to go. I
find, frankly, both of the letters—appreciate the drafting, because it's not an
easy thing to do. I find both of the letters are not addressing the range of
concerns. How I view this is, because it's a very complex proposal, it's a
multifaceted proposal. I think it's something with good intentions with the
potential of a contradictory outcome with relation to housing production. I'll
give a couple of examples. For instance,displaced persons. It talks—we
have this at places and in the other thing. If you look at Page 4 of one of
the attachments that we have, it talks about no net loss. Page 4, the first
bullet down, may not reduce the residential density on any parcel unless
remaining sites identified in the Housing Element are adequate to
accommodate Regional Housing Needs Assessment (RHNA). That supposes
that a property that is identified as a housing site is going to be developed in
a short period of time, that will pick up the people who are going to be
displaced. We have no control over that. Private property owners will
redevelop or develop when they so choose. We don't have any control over
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that. This, for me, is one of the biggest concerns. Last year we were
dealing with Buena Vista Mobile Home Park. One of the biggest concerns
was displacement of those people, where would those students go to school
and where would those people go. This imposes on the County funding to
find alternative locations for these people to live. In what communities and
how far away and in what school districts will those students go? For me,
this is a devastating aspect of this proposal that is here in the Governor's proposal. There's also—a question for Staff. I'll pick a simple one, second
units. We have zoning that restricts second units to go into X-size parcels.
Does zoning also include development standards? I just want to make sure
that—it's not clearly stated in this. Are they including development
standards with zoning?
Ms. Gitelman: Yes, they are including—I'll find the terminology that they
use. They're including development standards. It's in an early paragraph.
The development is consistent with the following objective planning
standards: land use and building intensity designation applicable to the site
under the general plan and Zoning Code, land use and density or other
objective zoning standards, and any setback or objective design review
standards.
Council Member Holman: You read design review standards the same as
development standards?
Ms. Gitelman: Yes. I think it's clear that the intent is if a project conforms
with development standards in the Zoning Ordinance, then it would have to
be approved.
Council Member Holman: All right.
Ms. Silver: If I could just amplify on that. This bill uses the term objective
standards. Sort of more subjective standards like our context-based zoning
requirements would be more difficult to implement under this bill. That's
one of the concerns.
Council Member Holman: Also, mixed use. This is, without going into detail,
referencing the comments that were made earlier about—I think Council
Member Berman brought it up. It still results in the potential to create more
housing demand than housing units. Square footage does not indicate how
many units there would be. You could have 5,000 square feet of retail and
5,000 square feet of housing, but you could have two housing units and the
demand for—what is that? How many jobs is that? Twenty? Quick math.
Something like that. I go through this, and I just find all kinds of things that
are really counterproductive.
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Mayor Burt: I would encourage folks that either we say we oppose it
outright or, if there are concerns, you translate them into what you'd want
to see in legislation, whether it'd be a preference for in the new development
for displaced residents or that a project must have a significant net gain in
housing supply versus jobs created or any of those things. Or just simply
oppose it altogether. I think in the interest of us being expeditious tonight,
let's try to translate it into specifics or clear opposition or whatever.
Council Member Holman: I'm happy with the language you used about job
creation and housing units. It's a little bit more difficult when it comes to
the no net loss language. I'll work on that while maybe some other Council
Members are speaking. Having to do with CEQA, there's a reason that—I
don't think it's practical. There's a reason that we do a Comprehensive Plan
Environmental Impact Report (EIR) and then also subsequently do project
EIRs and environmental analysis. Some of those include changing
conditions, site-specific impacts. I don't need to go into it. There's a reason
why we do that. The loss of that is not a helpful thing having to do with the
environment or necessarily with even housing production. I agree with
comments that have been made and that are actually in the letter, having to
do with the proposal—actually is less than what our current inclusionary housing provides. Those, I think, are most of my comments. I would
concur with Council Member Wolbach that this is not the right process, to go
through the budget process and to rush this through without adequate
consideration. Whatever we send, I think we should include comments that
are positive, whether we oppose the legislation or say we approve it with
these modifications, which I think would be several, that we say we'd be
interested in working with the League of California Cities and the State
Legislature to come to a conclusion that actually does help address housing
concerns rather than something that could be again contradictory to the
outcome that's the stated intention, which is where I believe this is now.
Mayor Burt: Let me raise a process question. Mr. Borock raised this issue.
We brought this forward in the Agenda. Council Member DuBois had raised
the issue earlier today that this was a time-sensitive item and, because we
have significant other items, to move it forward in the Agenda. There is the
concern if members of the public were anticipating it being at the end of our
meeting to make sure that they have an opportunity to be heard. On top of
that, I have one additional speaker card. For that very reason, I'm inclined
to reopen public comments to allow the additional speaker. We could have
discussion now, and then put this item off on action until after Item Number
17 to make sure that any member of the public who had planned on
speaking to it has that opportunity to do so before we take a vote on it. I
don't know what is the druthers of colleagues on that. It's okay? If there
aren't objections, I think I want to, out of intention to make sure the public
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has an opportunity to participate, let's go ahead and do that. We'll make
sure we're able to accomplish it tonight but also leave it open. Before
returning to other colleagues, I'll allow one more speaker, Hamilton
Hutchings. Welcome.
Hamilton Hitchings: Thank you, Mayor Burt and Council. Sorry. I thought
this was going to be at the end of the meeting; I got caught a little bit by
surprise. My comments are not that well prepared for this topic, so please take the spirit rather than the precise comments. I strongly support Mayor
Burt's letter that opposes this legislation. I am a member of the Citizen
Advisory Committee (CAC). These comments are not for the CAC, but I'm
on the land use subcommittee. One of the things we're looking at is trying
to increase the amount of below market housing and affordable housing.
This is actually a significant step backwards. I currently believe our 15
percent requirement is too low, and we want to concentrate the new housing
development in the Downtown areas. This would require that to drop down
to 10 or 5 percent for the developers, being a substantial step backwards in
our effort to provide low-cost housing for those who need it most, many of
whom already are working in the City. Also as you pointed out, it is not
appropriate to put it as part of the budget. It sounded to me, based on a brief skim, that not only would it eliminate project-specific environmental
review—I've seen a number of projects come in front of this Council which
had very specific project concerns, that had very specific impacts. It's
impossible to create zoning for every possible scenario. At some point,
things have to come back to Council. If we remove the process of Council
and public input, which in some ways this does, I think that's a real step
backwards for the community in many cases actually achieving these. What
if we decide we want to raise the minimum affordable housing higher?
Imagine a scenario where there's a higher height limit, but we require a
significant higher percentage of affordable housing. That would not be
possible under this proposal. In addition, there already is a rule on the
books from the State that allows for offsets for affordable housing to grant
zoning exceptions. In some ways, I feel like that covers it. I don't want to
take any more of your time. Thank you very much for listening.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. We have one more speaker, Lydia Kou. Welcome.
Lydia Kou: Thank you so much for allowing the oral comments. I wasn't
prepared for this to move forward, so I actually don't have anything
prepared. However, I urge you to oppose this legislation. It takes away
every civil liberty from a city. I think it's a very, very bad move for the
Governor to come up from the top down and demand that we come up with
housing. As it is, the Association of Bay Area Governments (ABAG) numbers
that are coming through, we are having a really hard time to come through
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with that. With our Comprehensive (Comp) Plan still in the works, this is
just taking our control away from every single resident that there is here
and is not really focused on our quality of life here and our schools, the
water that is going to be used. There's a lot of impacts that this legislation
is going to—that's going to have an effect on us. I hope that you'll oppose
this and let them come back with something else. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Council Member Filseth.
Council Member Filseth: My intent originally was just to ask the question
that Cory asked. I won't speak very long, because I hope I get a chance to
come back to this later. I'd support the concept that the original letter—I
think we ought to oppose this thing. I think to propose some ideas to make
it better makes sense. It just seems like it's very rushed to me. I'm not
sure I feel confident in our ability to propose reasonable things. The
bugaboo of these kinds of—frankly, the whole thing feels kind of like a head
shot out of Sacramento. The bugaboo of these things is nobody really
understands what the unintended consequences are, as pointed out in the
letter. I think we need some more time. I like the idea that Sacramento
would just work differently with us to try to figure how to do this. I think as
it is it represents—irrespective of process, I do think it represents some overreach by Sacramento. I think we ought to oppose it strenuously as
opposed to tacitly trying to get what we can right now. I think part of what
we oppose should be the process. Maybe there's a better process to do this.
I think it's just too rushed, it's too short of time. Nobody has time to figure
it out, and there's some significant risks there.
Mayor Burt: Vice Mayor Scharff.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Thank you. To elaborate on what Mayor Burt was
talking about, what I think we should do is go ahead and put in the first few
paragraphs of the original letter. I'll elaborate on that. I think we need to
say in the first sentence after "considerable examination, the City of Palo
Alto opposes the recently released proposal as part of the budget." I think
it's important to get the term "as part of the budget" on there. Somewhere
in here I'd like to see the concept, which Mayor Burt alluded to, that we
want to work with the League and have—what was the phrase you used?
Work with the League—Karen? Work with the League and work with that.
I'd like to see us actually use the first part of the letter, all the way up to
where it says the dangers of State housing mandates. I'd put that up there,
and then I would include in the new letter that "notwithstanding, the
proposal would be better with the following additional amendments," which
then puts the particular amendments into there, if that's all they're going to
listen to. I think the amendments make it better.
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Council Member DuBois: I'd second that. That was almost exactly what I
was going to propose.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I'll propose that, if you want to second it.
MOTION: Vice Mayor Scharff moved, seconded by Council Member DuBois
to authorize the Mayor to sign a letter regarding the Governor’s By Right
Housing Proposal including the first five paragraphs of proposed language in
the Staff Report and the text of the language included in the At Place Memorandum beginning with “Amendments, published as recently…” and;
Direct Staff to include the following concepts in the letter:
A. The City is opposed to this bill being part of the budget process as
opposed to the regular legislative process; and
B. The City intends to work with the League of California Cities
concerning this bill; and
C. The proposed amendments would be at a minimum of modifications to
the bill.
Mayor Burt: Did you want to speak to it further?
Vice Mayor Scharff: I'll just say that I think it's important to send the
message that we oppose this, but if it's going to move forward, here are the
amendments that would make it better, and that we also want to work with the League. I think that's an important concept in there. Also the concept
that the budget process is the wrong vehicle for this. Those were the major
points.
Mayor Burt: Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: If I could just clarify kind of what I was thinking. I
think it aligns with what you proposed. We'd include the first six paragraphs
from the original letter with your changes to Paragraph 1. In the seventh
paragraph ...
Vice Mayor Scharff: I have the first five paragraphs, not the first six.
Council Member DuBois: I was including the dangers of this example which,
I thought, was useful, which I believe is the Page Mill project. I was
including that sixth paragraph, which speaks about a recent example here in
Palo Alto. I got kind of iffy on that one. It makes it longer, but it also gives
an example. The next paragraph, there are amendments published as
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recently as June 1st, would you just pick up there and jump to the second
letter, which is the second paragraph?
Vice Mayor Scharff: I was going to. I was going to jump to the second
letter and say that "notwithstanding the following" or some language.
Council Member DuBois: Just pick up "amendments published as recently."
Vice Mayor Scharff: Yeah, we could do that. That's fine.
Council Member DuBois: Is that clear?
Mayor Burt: Should we say "at a minimum, the following changes should be
made"? So that we don't ...
Vice Mayor Scharff: Yes, I think so too.
Mayor Burt: ... limit ourselves subsequently to that.
Council Member DuBois: Just if I could wrap up for a second. Again, I think
this is moving; we should get a letter in. The State's not going to wait for
us. I would like to point out, I think there are—again, I feel like our State
government feels like they need to act. There's this rush to act. I don't
think this has been particularly thought through. These initial paragraphs
that talk about integrity of local government and restricting design review is
shortsighted, I think are really important to get in there. We're not talking
about it tonight, but there's at least four other bills that are also along these lines that I think we need to continue to monitor and be prepared to respond
to. Those are Assembly Bill (AB) 2299, 2406, 2501 and Senate Bill (SB)
1069. They're all in a similar vein. I appreciate us putting this letter, and I
think this combination is really the best approach.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Filseth, you wanted to speak to the motion?
Council Member Filseth: Without wanting to sort of wordsmith this to death,
the two proposed amendments, how about we position those as "for
example"? It's not necessarily these are our minimum, we'd be okay with
no more, but we think there's a bunch of things it needs and here's two
examples, but there's more.
Mayor Burt: We'll wait until Vice Mayor Scharff gets back on that. Council
Member Berman.
Council Member Berman: Kind of everything that I was going to say has
been said. I think we're striking the right balance between symbolism and
effectiveness. Just saying we reject this and don't agree with it, the
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Governor's not going to care. If we actually propose possible amendments
to make it better, that's something where we might be able to have an
impact. I think this is the right balance. I think we should definitely oppose
the process, and I'm glad that we're merging the two letters to do that.
Other than that, I think it's moving in the right direction.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: I think we're where we were a good half hour ago. We're really saying let's send forth a balanced letter, something that is
balanced. In addition to that, I think we need to be working with our
legislative person that we have—who drew the attention to this to begin
with. This is going to move so fast, they will be voting on it, and it will be in
place before we know it. This is the time of year when things go so quickly.
If we can, yes, put this together, let's make sure that we're talking with the
League representative and with our lobbyist in Sacramento in order to let
them know what we're willing to do. As I mentioned, the person who is the
President of the League said that they are going to try and work very closely
with everyone. We are not the only city in California thinking—I just said to
Marc, "How many are there?" I think there are 450 cities. Everyone is
taking a stand on this. Everyone has something to lose or gain. A lot of cities feel they have something to gain. While we may feel very strongly
about this, there are a number of other cities that are feeling just the other
way.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: I like the direction this conversation is going. I
think this is definitely heading us in the right direction where we're talking
about the process, we're opposing it on principle primarily because of that
process if nothing else. We're also being politically realistic and addressing
that something might happen regardless of whether we weigh in. We are
weighing in with some recommended changes. I would suggest including
language about displacement protection for existing tenants, whether that's
in the form of right of return or relocation within the community or other
language. Having something referring to displacement protection, I think, is
important. Addressing jobs/housing imbalance is important, rather than
square footage. Both of these were Council Member Holman's
recommendations. I fully support both of them. Changing our
recommendation from addressing square footage of commercial to
residential, it should be addressing jobs/housing imbalance and just saying
this would only apply to projects that do not provide for more jobs than
housing. Also support what Council Member Kniss was just saying about
working with our lobbyist. Obviously Palo Alto has unique experiences and
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challenges. We have our own lobbyist. They're paid on retainer; they don't
charge us by the hour. I was up in Sacramento recently and saw them at
work talking with the Governor's Office, the Speaker's Office and with our
legislators. They have a good relationship, and we should work that as well
as reaching out directly, of course, to our own legislators, Assembly Member
Gordon and Senator Hill. I know that they will be interested in hearing from
us as Council Members and from the City Staff directly as we work through this in haste.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: I pretty much like the direction this is going. I
don't intend to try to wordsmith this. I think there's a danger of trying to
include too many comments on what we think ought to be fixed, because it
looks like we're addressing a lot of things, like we've done our work. That's
not what I think we are doing tonight. I think we ought to pick two or three
areas where we fell like we can make some kind of reasonable comment.
The displacement comment, I think, is a serious one. I think there ought to
be a statement—I'll offer this is as a friendly amendment—that the text of
the letter at some point should address the counter—where did I have it?
I've got it here somewhere. More thoughtful legislation could potentially address the potential contradictory outcome as to housing creation. In other
words, we've got—should address the potentiality of actual loss of housing
units.
Mayor Burt: Rather than saying more thoughtful or anything, why don't
we—and not a potentiality ...
Council Member Holman: I took that out.
Mayor Burt: How about if it just be a "D," that it establish a preference in
new development for displaced residents from the former development? Is
that what you were trying to get at?
Council Member Holman: Just generally, kind of as a sweeping statement
that, I think, several aspects of this legislation could actually be
counterproductive to housing creation. I'm trying to make a general
statement, not just the displacement. Although, I think that's a serious
concern to that.
Mayor Burt: The maker and the seconder?
Council Member Holman: The other thing that we haven't mentioned is
something that ...
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Mayor Burt: Wait a minute. Are you proposing an amendment?
Council Member Holman: Yes.
Vice Mayor Scharff: What's the amendment?
Mayor Burt: It's as written here.
Council Member Holman: More thoughtful legislation should address the
potential loss of housing units.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I can't accept that, because I don't see how this would actually cause loss of housing units.
Council Member Holman: We've just talked about how displacement of
persons, for instance ...
Vice Mayor Scharff: I'm not going to accept the amendment.
Council Member Holman: Is there a separate second? Cory, are you
seconding that?
Council Member Wolbach: I was actually going to suggest slightly different
language that might be amenable to the maker and seconder. Yeah, go
ahead.
AMENDMENT: Council Member Holman moved, seconded by Council
Member XX to add to the Motion, “more thoughtful legislation should address
the potential loss of housing units.”
AMENDMENT FAILED DUE TO THE LACK OF A SECOND
Mayor Burt: I don't know if this is the same intent as yours and it may not
capture all of Council Member Holman's concerns, but I would add that "a
new development should provide preferences for displaced residents from
the former development."
Ms. Gitelman: Mr. Mayor, if I could interject. You've had a fantastic
discussion about a lot of different issues here. I think we have the sense of
the Council's direction. This is a letter that would come to the Mayor for
signature. If I could suggest that if everyone has put their ideas on the
table, we'll take a stab at it. The Mayor can review to see whether we've
captured the discussion here this evening, rather than wordsmithing the
whole thing.
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Mayor Burt: I don't think we were intending for this to be the wording. I
think we were actually having the amendments trying to capture the intent
as opposed to wording.
Ms. Gitelman: Additional issues, okay.
Mayor Burt: There are various issues.
Council Member Holman: I would agree with that, and this is kind of a
broad brush statement that I would hope would help.
Mayor Burt: My proposed amendment is—this is not artful at this hour. In
the vein of capturing the intent, "new development would provide a
preference for displaced residents from the former development."
Vice Mayor Scharff: As long as you add "if any."
Mayor Burt: If any.
Vice Mayor Scharff: It could be vacant land; it could be an office building.
Mayor Burt: That's fine. That would be "D."
Council Member DuBois: That's acceptable.
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion, “new development would
provide preference for residents, if any, displaced from the former
development.” (new Part D)
Council Member Holman: No other amendments on my part. Just
comments that I hope persons, Council Members and members of the public
both notice that on Page 3 of one of the attachments of our Staff Report
talks about the Governor's proposal allows for the following types of land use
decisions to occur without any public review. General plan amendment,
zoning changes. I'll stop there. There are other things too, but those are
significant changes. While saying this is supposed to be consistent with our
general plan ...
Mayor Burt: We can gripe, but if we actually want to have something
concrete, that would be more useful. Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: Again, we're not trying to wordsmith here. I do
think that we should throw things out there. Just to make sure it's clear, I
would suggest a friendly Amendment E, "to include language addressing not
exacerbating the jobs/housing imbalance."
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Mayor Burt: So that a new project would, as a whole, not exacerbate the
jobs/housing imbalance.
Council Member Wolbach: Correct. Would that be amenable?
Vice Mayor Scharff: No. I'll tell you why. This is for not just Palo Alto; this
is for all communities in California. A lot of communities don't have
jobs/housing imbalances. A lot of communities want jobs. Take San Jose
for instance. They don't have a jobs/housing imbalance in their community, but maybe in the region. I just think that's so Palo Alto-specific and our
mindset right now.
Mayor Burt: Can I offer though that it's not about general development. It's
about projects that are exempt from CEQA for the purpose of improving the
housing shortfall.
Council Member Wolbach: How about this? What if I added to the end of
the sentence "where such exists, as in Palo Alto"? It would be where
relevant. It wouldn't apply to, say, Tracy or Modesto.
Mayor Burt: You're getting at whether a citywide circumstance exists as
opposed to whether a project that is exempt from CEQA should not
exacerbate, in itself—it shouldn't create more jobs than provide housing, if
the whole purpose is to reduce the housing problem.
Council Member Wolbach: Where relevant.
Mayor Burt: We don't have to capture all of it. That would be my
perspective.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I think we're getting far afield. The more things we put
in here, the less impact we're going to have, frankly, if we have a
(inaudible). I'm not going to accept it.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Schmid.
Council Member Wolbach: Actually, I ...
Mayor Burt: Sorry.
Council Member Wolbach: I wanted to see if there was a second to that,
and then I had one other suggestion for a minor change. Any second?
Mayor Burt: I will second it, but I hesitate. I don't want to get us into a
protracted debate.
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AMENDMENT: Council Member Wolbach moved, seconded by Mayor Burt to
add to the Motion, “include language so that a new project would not, as a
whole, exacerbate the jobs housing imbalance.
Council Member Wolbach: We can even say "consider language," and then
let Staff and the Mayor work it out. The other—I guess we'll have to vote on
that.
Mayor Burt: Would it be possible for us to vote on the amendment without discussion? Let's go ahead and vote on the amendment at the bottom.
AMENDMENT RESTATED: Council Member Wolbach moved, seconded by
Mayor Burt to add to the Motion, “include language so that a new project
would not, as a whole, exacerbate the jobs/housing imbalance, where such
exists. (new Part E)
Mayor Burt: That passes 7-2 with Vice Mayor Scharff and Council Member
Berman opposed.
AMENDMENT PASSED: 7-2 Berman, Scharff no
Council Member Wolbach: The last suggestion I'd offer is to add into Section
B to work with the League of California Cities, our lobbyists, and our
legislators.
Vice Mayor Scharff: That's fine.
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE
MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion Part B, “our lobbyists, and
legislators” after “California Cities.”
Council Member Holman: Isn't that "B" basically?
Council Member Wolbach: I was saying add that ...
Council Member Berman: (crosstalk) amending "B."
Council Member Wolbach: Right. It was amending "B" to expand it to
include our lobbyist and our legislators. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Schmid.
Council Member Schmid: I just wanted to say that I approve the notion of
retaining the first five paragraphs of the original letter. It states clearly our
perspective for process and including the public in making decisions. I like
"A," trying to remove the bill as part of the budget process, and "B," to work
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with the League of California Cities on amendments. I also appreciate the
comments made by Council Member DuBois, that there is a bill here but
there's lots of other bills out there. We should be sensitive to the fact
there's this whole range of these things that we are discussing and talking
about.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Please vote on the board.
MOTION RESTATED: Vice Mayor Scharff moved, seconded by Council Member DuBois to authorize the Mayor to sign a letter regarding the
Governor’s By Right Housing Proposal including the first five paragraphs of
proposed language in the Staff Report and the text of the language included
in the At Place Memorandum beginning with “Amendments, published as
recently…” and;
Direct Staff to include the following concepts in the letter:
A. The City is opposed to this bill being part of the budget process as
opposed to the regular legislative process; and
B. The City intends to work with the League of California Cities, our
lobbyists, and legislators concerning this bill; and
C. The proposed amendments would be at a minimum of modifications to
the bill; and
D. New development would provide preference for residents, if any,
displaced from the former development; and
E. Include language so that a new project would not, as a whole
exacerbate the jobs housing imbalance, where such exists.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Wolbach, are you voting yes?
Council Member Wolbach: You can put me down for yes.
Mayor Burt: That passes unanimously. Thank you.
MOTION AS AMENDED PASSED: 9-0
Mayor Burt: What do you think about taking a five minute break? We're
going to have a long next item.
Council took a break from 8:33 P.M. to 8:39 P.M.
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15. Review of Recommendations From the Storm Drain Blue Ribbon
Committee Regarding Future Storm Water Management Funding and
Request for Council Direction on Whether to Proceed With a
Proposition 218 Hearing and Property Owner Ballot-by-Mail to Approve
Future Storm Water Management Rates.
16. PUBLIC HEARING: Request for City Council and Public Comments on
the Draft Environmental Impact Report (DEIR) and Fiscal Study
Prepared for the Comprehensive Plan Update. The Draft
Environmental Impact Report was Published on February 5, 2016 for a
Public Comment Period That Will end on June 8, 2016.
Mayor Burt: ... is a request for City Council and public comments—request
for review by the City Council and public comments on a Draft
Environmental Impact Report and Fiscal Study prepared for the
Comprehensive Plan Update. The Draft EIR was published on February 5,
2016, for a public comment period that will end on June 8th of this month.
Hillary Gitelman, Planning and Community Environment Director: Thank
you, Mayor Burt and Council Members. Hillary Gitelman, the Planning
Director. I'm joined this evening by Joanna Jansen, who is an associate
principal of PlaceWorks, a consulting firm that's been working with us for a long time now on the Comprehensive Plan Update. With her is Ben Sigman,
an Executive Vice President of the firm EPS that helped us develop the Fiscal
Study. They'll be helping with the presentation and questions this evening.
Before we launch in, I also wanted to mention that I know the Council's
received a number of letters since the packet went out. We've also held a
number of hearings at other Boards and Commissions in the City to gather
comments. All of the comments we receive, whether in writing or orally, at
these hearings like this evening's will be included and responded to in the
Final EIR. Joanna and Ben are going to give you a quick overview of the
Draft EIR and the Fiscal Study as well as the process we're engaged in.
We're going to motor through this really as fast as we can. We're here to
get any additional feedback you have on these drafts and get any remaining
public comments. This comment period has been going on for quite a while,
and we've had a number of discussions. This is kind of a cleanup
opportunity. If you have any remaining comments, tonight's the night.
We'd also like the City Council's final signoff on the fifth and sixth scenarios
that have been described in Attachment F. We tried to capture your
direction from the meeting of May 16th. I did, in reviewing it in preparation
for tonight's meeting, notice one typo in the description of Scenario 5. In
our rush to make the packet date, we seemed to have gotten that one
confused a little bit. When we get to Council questions, I'd be happy to
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point that out and make the necessary correction. With that, I will turn it
over to Joanna.
Joanna Jansen, PlaceWorks: Thank you, Hillary. I want to just briefly
explain a little bit about what an EIR is and what we've analyzed in this EIR
that's before you tonight mostly for the benefit of any members of the public
or the community who haven't had the opportunity to spend a lot of time
with the document yet. I know that you're all very familiar with CEQA and the CEQA process, but I want to make sure that everybody here is sharing
the same context. An EIR is required by the California Environmental
Quality Act. We often call it CEQA. It looks at projects or policy documents
to help inform the public discussion and decision-making around those
projects and policy documents. This EIR for the Comp Plan, because it does
look at a policy rather than a specific project, is what we call a program-level
EIR, which means it's at a little bit more of a 50,000-foot level in terms of
the level of detail that it offers. The EIR is not a policy document, and it
doesn't set City policy; although, this EIR does propose mitigation measures
that could be incorporated into the Comp Plan as policies. Really, the EIR's
primary purpose is to disclose impacts and identify mitigation measures to
avoid those potential impacts. In addition to the mitigation measures in the EIR, the policies and the programs in the Comp Plan itself can help to avoid
or mitigate impacts. You'll notice throughout the analysis that we refer in
many places to the policies and programs in the Comp Plan and their
potential to help avoid or mitigate environmental impacts. Those are
important components of the Comp Plan to keep in mind. Another point I
want to make sure is clear is that the EIR evaluates the changes that the
proposed Comp Plan would result in from existing physical conditions. CEQA
requires us to look at existing conditions on the ground, so this is not an
analysis or a comparison of the changes between what would happen under
the proposed Comp Plan versus what would happen under the existing Comp
Plan. That's easy to get mixed, and it's an important question to ask
ourselves, but it's not the specific question that the EIR is trying to answer.
Another question that the EIR doesn't really address is fiscal impacts. The
EIR is really focused on the physical environment. Because it doesn't
address fiscal impacts, the City has commissioned a separate Fiscal Study
which EPS has completed. Ben is here tonight to answer any questions that
you may have on that. What are the physical environmental topics that the
EIR looks at? They're up on the screen. There's about 17 different topics.
Each one of these has a specific set of what are called thresholds or
standards of significance that the statute and that the City have asked us to
look at. In Palo Alto, you have your own individual set of thresholds of
significance, a set of questions about each one of these topics, asking how
or under what conditions the project, in this case the Comp Plan, might
create an impact. That sets out the framework of the EIR and gives us our
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marching orders for the questions that we have to answer and the impacts
that the City has said that it wants to identify and mitigate. I touched on
this earlier but just want to reiterate the importance of understanding the
distinction between program and project-level EIRs. With the project-level
EIR, you have a very high degree of specificity about a particular project,
where the buildings will be located, where the driveways will be, the
entrances and exits, how many parking spaces there are going to be, how many feet tall it will be, how many wetlands or tenths of an acre of a
wetland might be on a given site, for example. Of course, when we're
looking at a Citywide document that's going to be in effect for the next 15
years, we really don't have that level of specificity. The programmatic-level
review enables us to be a little bit more conceptual rather than specific. I
know that can be frustrating when you're used to seeing a very high degree
of detail in an EIR, but that's not the role of the Comp Plan EIR specifically.
That's part of the reason why, at least under current law, future projects will
have to undergo additional review to give you that level of detail. For this
EIR, we compared four scenarios. As you know, we've since added a fifth
and sixth but, for the Draft EIR that was published earlier this year, we
looked at four scenarios in terms of their housing, population, jobs, different land use policy, different transportation improvements, different potential
sustainability measures that could be included and how the Comp Plan would
be implemented through necessary Zoning Code amendments for each one
of the four planning scenarios. This is, as you've heard each time we talk
about this EIR, somewhat of an unconventional format for an EIR. It was
really chosen very carefully in order to help move this process forward.
Rather than be kind of a retroactive look back at the end of the process, we
wanted to make an EIR that really fed into the process and helped to
support your decision-making by testing a range of possible choices about
land use, transportation and other types of policies. We set that range
based on the outcomes of workshops in mid-2014, and then we analyzed
them to provide you with the whole range of quantitative data as well as
qualitative assessments on the potential outcomes of those different ranges
of choices that are represented by the four scenarios. Of course, since then
you've also given us direction to add a fifth and a sixth scenario that further
expand the range of different options that we're going to be analyzing. After
tonight, we are going to be preparing that additional supplemental analysis.
As Hillary mentioned, tonight's one more opportunity for you to make sure
that we've understood you correctly when we talked about those fifth and
sixth scenarios in that those scenarios are going to represent what you do
want us to analyze. After we have that analysis, we're going to be
circulating that for public review just like we have with the Draft EIR. At
that point, you'll be able to make a very informed decision about a preferred
scenario that would be the basis for your updated Comp Plan. As we've said
all along, the preferred scenario is not going to be—it could be, but we don't
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necessarily anticipate that it absolutely will be any one specific scenario. I
think what we're trying to do is provide scenarios, again, that offer you a
range of choices. It's anticipated and expected that the final scenario might
represent a blend of different aspects of one or more of the different
scenarios. You will have some flexibility there. I don't want to rehash the
details of each one of the individual scenarios, because I know you've been
through them numerous times. I think you're probably anxious to get on with the public comment and your own discussion. We do have slides on
each one of the four scenarios as well as a final slide that kind of compares
all six of the scenarios. Scenario 1 is the "business as usual" scenario that
maintains existing Comp Plan policies. Scenario 2 would slow the pace of
both job growth and housing growth and has the lowest number of housing.
Scenarios 5 and 6 have a lower number of jobs. Scenario 3 is kind of a
midrange in both housing and population. One of its defining characteristics
is a shift in housing sites from south to north as well as the introduction of
grade-separated Caltrain crossings. Scenario 4 in the Draft EIR was the
scenario with the greatest amount of housing and job growth, more
consistent with ABAG projections. It also includes both grade-separated
Caltrain and mixed-flow Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) on El Camino. Again, since the time of the publication of this Draft EIR—not reflected in this Draft EIR
but to be analyzed in a supplemental analysis is Scenario 5, which slows the
pace of job growth even more than Scenario 2, which was previously the
lowest job growth scenario, and then adds to that kind of the midrange of
housing that was consistent with the housing in Scenario 3 as well as a
range of sustainability and mitigation measures from the EIR. Scenario 6
would add a new bookend of the highest number of housing while retaining
the same lowest number of jobs as in Scenario 5. That's of the highest
housing and lowest jobs scenario, pairing those two facets up to see what
the interaction of those is like and how the potential impacts might change
under that scenario. This slide just compares, kind of at a glance, all six
scenarios. This slide also provides the jobs to employed residents ratio for
each one of the scenarios. I know that, when we talked about Scenarios 5
and 6, seeing a more significant decline in that ratio was something that was
important to the Council and one of the primary motivators for adding those
scenarios. You can see that that does decrease under both Scenarios 5 and
6 from the four scenarios that were analyzed in the Draft EIR. I want to just
briefly touch on the Fiscal Study. Again, Ben is here to answer more
detailed questions. For the purposes of the presentation, I'll just give you a
brief overview. The Fiscal Study is really focused very specifically on the
City's General Fund and looks at what the impacts on the General Fund
would be under each one of the four scenarios. It's based on the most
recent adopted budget. It also includes a 15-year look back at revenues and
costs as well as the 15-year forecast for each one of the four scenarios. It's
important to understand about the Fiscal Study that this was a very
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quantitative analysis focused on dollars and cents outcomes. It does not
attempt to evaluate or incorporate more kind of qualitative analyses of the
City's quality of life over that same 15-year period. The conclusions of the
Fiscal Study were that under all four scenarios the City could expect to see
positive fiscal impacts. The cost of growth does not exceed the revenue-
generating potential of that growth. This is true for both residents and
workers in Palo Alto. Although, it's important to note that the overall effect for all four scenarios is—I think we could characterize it as relatively modest.
There's not any one of the scenarios that results in enormous positive
revenue for your General Fund in 2030. We did take the Fiscal Study to the
Finance Committee back in March, and we got some great feedback and had
an excellent conversation at the Finance Committee. Really appreciated the
very careful review and thoughtful input that we got from Finance
Committee Members. Part of that included some requests for additional
analysis and, as part of the contract modification that you approved on
May 16th, included other resources to do that additional analysis. That will
be part of what's prepared at the same time as we're doing the
supplemental analysis for the fiscal impacts of Scenarios 5 and 6; we'll also
take that opportunity to add some of the information that the Finance Committee requested. Turning back to the EIR. I just want to briefly touch
on some of these timelines, because they're very important under the
statute. We issued a Notice of Preparation back in 2014 and had a scoping
hearing that summer. We published the EIR back in February. We had
originally planned a 60-day public review period that would end in May;
we've extended that to June to make sure that we incorporate this hearing
and any comments that we're going to receive around this hearing. The
public review period is now slated to end on June 8th. That's Wednesday.
We hope to then be conducting the analysis of the fifth and sixth scenarios
over the next few months and publish that in late fall of this year. All of
which will be moving you towards the publication of a Final EIR in May 2017,
just slightly under a year from right now. At the same time, of course, the
CAC is going to be continuing their work, and the City Council is going to be
continuing your review of the CAC work. That's how this fits into the process
overall. I'll turn it back over to Hillary to close.
Ms. Gitelman: Thank you, Joanna. That concludes our presentation. We're
looking forward to your comments and questions and those of the public,
and then any final direction you have for us on the scenarios defined in
Attachment F. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: How many speaker cards to we have? Just a question of
colleagues. Do we want to have questions from us first or hear from
members of the public first? I think we'll go ahead and hear from members
of the public, and then go to our questions and comments from the Council.
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Our first speaker is Judy Kleinberg, to be followed by Tiffany Griego.
Welcome, Former Mayor Kleinberg.
Public Hearing opened at 8:56 P.M.
Judy Kleinberg: Thank you, Mayor and Council Members. Thank you for
letting us address the Draft Environmental Impact Report (DEIR).
Appreciate that. We have a lot of hope for the new EIR and for solving the
jobs/housing imbalance in town. We want to work collaboratively, as we've said many, many times, with the City on solving all of the problems that
come with increased population and the vitality of the job market. We have
a few concerns. The conditional use permit, which I think you'll hear others
speak about tonight, we believe would have a negative impact on business
by preventing flexibility in uses and job growth and would slow down the
progress that makes Palo Alto so vital. The Conditional Use Permit (CUP)
would hinder the ability for a business to thrive in Palo Alto and damage how
business operates. You can't actually legislate how a business will operate
to have it really innovate and grow its product and its services. We believe
the City should really focus on impacts and mitigations, not limiting empty
density and job reductions. The CUP and density controls really would have
a chilling effect on small startups. We've heard over and over again that you really favor this City as being a hotbed for startups. In fact, the CUP
would absolutely jeopardize them. The Chamber represents the ecosystem
of businesses in Palo Alto from very small to global enterprises. By
hampering the startup environment, the vitality and vibrancy of the business
community will be dangerously jeopardized. Impeding job growth, limiting
square footage and controlling employee density would drastically change
the business and, we believe, is a misguided strategy for solving the
jobs/housing imbalance. It also could jeopardize tax revenues, and that's
part of the fiscal analysis that your consultants are doing. The smarter
alternative strategy is to mitigate impacts through Transportation Demand
Management (TDMs) and the Transportation Management Association (TMA)
program plus adopting policies and zoning that encourage and allow more
housing and reduce commute traffic, especially through trip reduction. The
Staff analysis shows that impacts from lowest density to highest is virtually
equal; that's in the first four scenarios. We note that 45 percent of the
residents are tenants who want or need permanent housing. The City's own
poll has shown that 76 percent of likely voters believe affordable housing is
the most severe challenge and that the City must address that unmet need.
We believe Scenario 6—we're looking forward to that analysis. It's too bad
public comment will end before that's analyzed. We believe Scenario 6 is
really worth very careful examination. We appreciate the fact that you've
added that scenario. Thank you.
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Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Tiffany Griego, to be followed
by Jamie Jarvis. Welcome.
Tiffany Griego: Thank you, Mayor and members of the City Council. My
name is Tiffany Griego. I'm responsible for Stanford Research Park. Thank
you for the opportunity to share with you Stanford University's concerns
about Comp Plan policies in the Draft EIR that are related to mechanisms
that are designed to do four things: regulate the number of employees a business can hire in Palo Alto; control the proportion of office and R&D uses
through the Research Park and possibly even on a building-by-building
basis; charge for parking spaces in Stanford Research Park; and regulate the
build-out of square footage currently available under RP zoning. This is
quite frankly a profound shift in the regulatory framework for Stanford
Research Park (SRP), and it's proven deeply disconcerting to SRP employers
and to our business community. The DEIR does not quantify the impacts of
these regulations. From what we could tell, there's no quantitative evidence
that they would do any good. We're concerned that the City's also unaware
of how much detriment these policies would cause the business community
in the Research Park. As we are all aware, Research Park employers
represent a fountainhead of revolutionary inventions, therapies and advances in sustainability. They also serve as an important economic engine
for the City of Palo Alto. In 2015, the Research Park generated $45 million
in taxes of all entities and 40 percent of that flowed to Palo Alto and to the
Palo Alto Unified School District. Businesses need predictability in their
regulatory framework. Could you imagine a longstanding Palo Alto sales-
tax-producing company in the Research Park if it were denied the right to
hire new employees in scale as their business needs changed? Would its
founders have located its startup here or its point of sale in Palo Alto if they
didn't believe they could grow here? Could you image if a Research Park
company had to wait 12 months for a discretionary permit before it could
modify the proportion of R&D and automotive labs inside its existing Palo
Alto headquarters? How would they innovate within the very competitive
electric vehicle and automotive mobility spaces? Could you imagine if an
SRP medical systems company needs to add 100,000 square feet but be
subject to the 50,000 per year annual cap? They would have to win the very
unpredictable beauty contest two years in a row before it could actually build
its facility to advance medical diagnostics imaging. Could you imagine a
pharmaceuticals company telling patients that they had to wait for a very
promising leukemia clinical trial, but they're waiting for Palo Alto to sign off
on a conditional use permit to hire employees for that clinical trial? It's very
hard to imagine this regulatory framework. Please ask yourself, after you've
had a chance to read several letters that SRP employers have provided, how
will these changes affect businesses here in Palo Alto and in Stanford
Research Park. We encourage you to work with us to craft policies that will
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not limit the ability of these innovative companies to compete here in Palo
Alto. We definitely encourage you to work with us to support the very solid
framework we have developed for reducing traffic congestion in Stanford
Research Park, which we hope will improve quality of life as well. Thank you
very much.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Jamie Jarvis, to be followed
Karen Bouvier. Welcome.
Jamie Jarvis: Thank you. Good evening. My name is Jamie Jarvis, and I'm
the Transportation Demand Manager for Stanford Research Park. I lead the
Stanford Research Park transportation working group, an organization
dedicated to developing and implementing transportation programs tailored
to the needs of employees in the Stanford Research Park. The working
group was convened by Stanford in 2015 in response to Research Park
employers identifying traffic congestion as the top priority issues that
adversely affects their ability to recruit and retain talented employees. The
group consists of 18 key employers, ranging in size from less than 150
employees to over 3,500 employees and representing a variety of business
sectors including high tech, pharmaceutical, mobility and professional
services. I am consistently impressed by the members' willingness to work together, share information and promote new programs. With their support
and efforts, we have made VTA Eco Passes available to over 14,000
employees in the Research Park, launched an informative transportation
website and a personalized trip-planning tool, enhanced and modernized our
guaranteed ride home program, provided ten free safe cycling and repair
clinics at worksites throughout the Research Park, celebrated and rewarded
over 1,100 cyclists on Bike to Work Day, promoted and subsidized an on-
demand carpool app that has attracted over 1,500 users, and will soon
launch a long-distance shuttle to the west side of San Francisco to provide a
much needed commute option along the 280 corridor. Employer and
employee response to these programs has been tremendous, and each
success generates additional enthusiasm and support for new programs. I'm
truly excited about the momentum we have built, but I am concerned that
some of the proposed Comp Plan measures could distract from our future
efforts, de-motivate our employers and even potentially defund our
programs. It is important to remember that the Research Park business
community shares the same key goals as the greater Palo Alto community,
to effectively reduce traffic congestion and improve quality of life. For this
reason, I encourage the City of Palo Alto to engage with Research Park
employers and our transportation working group to ensure that the Comp
Plan enables us to achieve the results we all desire. Thank you.
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Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Karen Bouvier, to be followed
by Linda Marie Santiago. Welcome.
Karen Bouvier: Thank you, Mayor Burt and Council Members. I'm Karen
Bouvier, the Manager of Environment, Health and Safety of the Palo Alto
Research Center (PARC). PARC's been in the Stanford Research Park since
the early '70s. Our management, employees and clients highly value this
location. PARC is dedicated to the objective of reducing car traffic in the Stanford Research Park. We've had an active green team for many years.
This grassroots effort convinced our management team a decade ago that it
would be wise to invest in employees' alternate transportation choices.
We've had a reimbursement program covering public transit, carpooling,
bicycling and walking since that time. I'm delighted to participate in the SRP
TDM working group that Jamie just described. This effort has enabled PARC
to offer our employees additional alternative commute options as a result of
the economies of scale that we couldn't have done on our own. In reviewing
the Draft EIR, we have concerns about some of the proposed traffic
congestion mitigation measures. PARC's cutting-edge research programs
rely on both attracting employee talent with specific expertise and on close
collaboration with researchers from academia and industry. The changing nature of our projects result in a fluctuating headcount of employees,
visiting researchers and onsite startup companies. The conditional use
permit as proposed could limit our technical flexibility. We're also concerned
that the mitigation measures Trans 1A, which would require a specific TDM
plan for individual new development projects, could undermine the SRP-wide
TDM programs that are providing a smaller company like PARC the benefits
of scale and allowing us to drive down our trip counts. PARC looks forward
to working with the SRP and the City toward our mutual goal of reducing the
number of cars on our streets. The baseline commute mode information
being collected will help us to set quantifiable objectives for that goal.
Thank you for your time.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Linda Marie Santiago, to be
followed by Bob Moss. Welcome.
Linda Marie Santiago: Good evening, City Staff and Council Members. My
name is Linda Marie Santiago. I'm a Director in the Real Estate and
Workplace Group for VMware. As I think all of you know, our headquarters
is in Stanford Research Park, a beautiful 105 acres of it. I want to take this
opportunity to communicate VMware's concerns regarding the City of Palo
Alto's Draft Environmental Impact Report for the Comprehensive Plan
Update. We appreciate the City's desire to ease traffic congestion; however,
measures to regulate employee headcount and traffic mitigations contained
in the Draft EIR coupled with the recent proposal to implement a headcount
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tax on local businesses are unsettling. Prior to taking action that will
inadvertently hinder economic stability and impede our current efforts to
reduce traffic congestion, we encourage the City to further analyze the
proposed mechanisms and mitigations, utilize the additional data to make
informed decisions, and engage in further outreach with the business
community. VMware is confident a concerted effort from interested
stakeholders will produce a thoughtful plan to mitigate traffic congestion while simultaneously allowing the City, its residents and businesses to
continue to thrive. As a multinational company, VMware is proud to be one
of the largest tenants in the Stanford Research Park and headquartered in
Palo Alto. We have historically enjoyed a mutually beneficial relationship
with both the City and the Stanford Research Park. VMware cares deeply
about this community, our people and our campus. We share the City's
concerns regarding traffic congestion, and it impacts directly our people,
many of whom live in Palo Alto, and our ability to recruit and retain top
talent. We respect the fact that what we do is a model for others in SRP,
that our programs meet the needs of our people and the community, and
that what we do is sustainable, environmentally and financially. We have
invested significant funding in such programs, given VMware's commitment to solving these issues that impact the entire City. The proposed density
restrictions and traffic mitigation regulations contained in the Draft EIR have
potentially adverse consequences for VMware and create uncertainties for
the business community, which must remain agile in order to succeed.
Maintaining a flexible workforce that is able to respond to the cyclical
employment demands of product innovation is key to progress and
ultimately success. There are additional measures contemplated in the Draft
EIR such as requiring companies with over 50 employees to charge for
parking, which also appear to have a punitive effect on businesses without
evidence that such a program will produce the desired result of reduced
vehicle trips to SRP. In our commitment to working with the City and
Stanford to reduce congestion, it is essential to VMware that all traffic
congestion management methods we fund are effective, measurable and
substantiated by robust data analysis. Most importantly such methods must
not impede our ability to successfully conduct business operations within
Palo Alto or undermine our own robust TDM efforts to date. Thank you for
your consideration.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Bob Moss, to be followed by
our final speaker, Shani Kleinhaus.
Bob Moss: Thank you, Mayor Burt and Council Members. This reminds me
of late Mayor Jack Sutorius' comment on how he found three things to like
about the Comprehensive Plan. First, it was comprehensive. Second, it was
only a plan. Third, it could be amended at any time. What we have before
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us leaves out a lot of important factors, and I think they should be
considered. For example, Scenario 6 would add 6,000 housing units. That
would increase the net cost to the City about $17 million a year, because
every housing unit costs between $2,700 and $2,800 a year more for
services than it pays in taxes. This is not new; this was true 45 years ago
when I helped to incorporate Rancho Palos Verde. We did a study on the
validity of the property tax supporting the government, and we found it would not. We made it because we had several business districts in that
area, and that made it possible to incorporate the city. One of the things
that you should be thinking of, that was kind of interesting, is if we're going
to put housing in the Stanford Research Park, would Stanford agree. Are
you aware of the fact that part of the Stanford Research Park was zoned for
housing more than 30 years ago? The area was basically along Arastradero
Road and then went up toward the Foothills. Stanford said, "We will not at
any time, under any circumstances, allow housing in that area." After seven
years of prohibiting any development there, the City gave up and rezoned it
for industrial. In exchange, Stanford helped to fund the low-income housing
project on Alma. If you're going to be talking about where we're going to—
one other thing that's very important. I think we know it, but it doesn't focus on it. Changing the zoning and the land use does not build anything.
It makes it possible it could be built, but it doesn't do anything. I'll give you
an example. When the area along El Camino was rezoned CN and CS, those
zones allowed residential on the upper floor. We thought there was going to
be a lot of residential development along El Camino because now it's
allowed. I can think of five or six properties between Adobe Creek and Page
Mill Road that have housing on the upper floors. All the rest are low-density
commercial. The housing has not been built. As I say, zoning doesn't create
anything. One final thing.
Mayor Burt: Thank you.
Mr. Moss: There is an election tomorrow. I urge you all to vote early, vote
often and vote democratic.
Mayor Burt: The next speaker is Shani Kleinhaus, to be followed by our final
speaker, Rita Vrhel. Welcome.
Shani Kleinhaus: Good evening again. Shani Kleinhaus. I'm a resident, and
I'm on the CAC; although, I don't speak for the CAC for the Comp Plan. It's
not surprising to me that there are just a few comments from residents in
the package that you have and that not very many residents wish to speak.
It's a difficult process to follow. We have the Comp Plan that has not
finished its work. We have an EIR that has changed its scenarios. Those
scenarios don't exactly compare to the previous scenarios. I would just step
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back and say let's create one good EIR and release it later as a revised EIR
and have the public comment on that. Perhaps, during that time, the CAC
will have done more work, and you will have a preferred alternative and not
just throw it all out there, and we'll figure it out later. Scenarios 5 and 6
both propose adoption of the Sustainability and Climate Action Plan (S/CAP)
goal of 80 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. I don't
know why the other alternatives and scenarios do not include that; they should. What troubles me a little bit is that it calls for an alignment of the
Comprehensive Plan Update with the S/CAP principles. Now, I'm not
opposed to that necessarily, but I don't want to see that the S/CAP becomes
a mitigation measure, because that actually becomes much more important
than a lot of other plans legally, than a lot of other plans that we have like
the Urban Forest Master Plan or the Parks Master Plan or the Bicycle Plan or
a lot of other things. I was under the impression that the S/CAP is the
umbrella, and the S/CAP should fall under that, not drive it. I guess that's
what I want to say. This is the most important document in our City's life,
and there's not a lot of people involved. The CAC is confused, and this is
premature. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our final speaker is Rita Vrhel. Welcome.
Rita Vrhel: Thank you. I'd like to second the comments that were just
made as a resident. It has been confusing. I just think there's a couple of
factors to include or to consider. I'm sorry if they sound a little bit naïve.
Again, everyone can't work or live in Palo Alto. It's simply an impossibility.
I think that, again, I'd like to see some quantitative analysis or data from
not only Stanford Research transportation mitigation programs but from al
the businesses which have come into Palo Alto in the last five years and
have been speaking of these measures. I think that Stanford—it sounded
from the speakers that were from Stanford Research Park that they would
like unlimited headcount and development opportunities. I don't think that
is possible in Palo Alto. I really have the belief that if they had a tenant that
left, they probably have a waiting list for tenants who would quickly fill those
buildings. I think that compromise needs to be the point of start among all
people. I would also support limited growth and a compromise in this issue
of housing and jobs in Palo Alto. I remember I was living here when Burger
King came into the plaza Downtown. It was really interesting, because Palo
Alto put in some very strict rules. I think it was the first business that had
to have employees go out and clean up the plaza every couple of hours to
make sure that trash around, the trash that is usually generated by a fast
food environment. I think in the years that I've been here since 1983, I've
always felt that if Palo Alto had zoning requirements and asked businesses
to do certain things, there would be no shortage of businesses. I think that
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there does need to be a limit as to how many people can work in any
building within Palo Alto. Thank you.
Public Hearing closed at 9:18 P.M.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. We'll now return to the Council for questions and
comments. Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: I was wondering if I might set a framework for
tonight's discussion. To do that I might actually make a Motion with the Mayor's forbearance. It seems to me appropriate that tonight we would
make any comments as the Staff has requested on Scenarios 5 and 6, or
Alternatives 5 and 6 as I refer to them, that we comment as anyone wants
to on the DEIR that is before us, but we also extend the comment period for
the current DEIR and keep it open so that at the same time we will be
commenting on Scenarios 1 through 6. I haven't made a motion yet, so I'm
going to continue to speak to why that is. As commented previously and as
some members of the public have comments, this has always seemed like
an unusual process to me, that we're doing the DEIR prior to the
Comprehensive Plan being complete. It's not really clear to me that we have
a good grasp on why we are doing it this way. I think segmenting off
Alternatives 5 and 6 makes it even more complicated, more complex, especially as we've talked about maybe—I don't understand (inaudible)
we're picking and choosing one thing from one scenario and applying it to
another. Judy Kleinberg is still here as well. Judy even mentioned—pardon
me for calling you Judy. Ms. Kleinberg said earlier that it was too bad that
"5" and "6" are not analyzed prior to the DEIR comments closing. I think
that's absolutely right. I agree 100 percent with that. It's also relevant, I
believe, that we take this into consideration in light of previously Item 18
that became Item 14a earlier, having to do with Governor's legislation. We
need to get the EIR correct. We need to be very careful about that. I don't
think taking more time when there's more work to be done anyway with
Alternatives 5 and 6. We may be relying on our EIR for things which
otherwise we will have no control, provided that the Governor's legislation
goes through or some version of that goes through. Again, with the Mayor's
forbearance, I would move that we make comments on Alternatives 5 and 6
and recommendations and suggestions on Alternatives 5 and 6, that we go
ahead and comment on topics in the current DEIR as so desired this
evening, but that we also continue the Comp Plan DEIR comment period
until such time as Alternatives 5 and 6 can be considered in the same
timeframe and in context with the current DEIR.
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Vice Mayor Scharff: Could I just clarify your Motion? Are you saying we
wouldn't be able to comment on the fiscalization of land use study or do you
...
Council Member Holman: No, I'm not saying that at all.
Vice Mayor Scharff: What your Motion would do is it would allow us to
comment on everything we were planning on commenting on tonight, but it
would keep the EIR comment period open to when we finish Scenarios 5 and 6 and let us do it holistically. I'll second that.
Council Member Holman: Correct.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I'll second that.
MOTION: Council Member Holman moved, seconded by Vice Mayor Scharff
to reopen the public comment period for the Comprehensive Plan Draft
Environmental Impact Report (DEIR) to run concurrently with the public
comment period for Scenarios 5 and 6.
Mayor Burt: I think we don't need to have a Motion that we would be
allowed to comment on "5" and "6." That's ...
Council Member Holman: I just wanted to be clear that I wasn't trying to
foreclose that. That's the only reason I included that.
Ms. Gitelman: Mayor Burt, could I just offer some perspective and a possible alternative? Preparing a Final EIR is always part recordkeeping and
part analysis. We have to keep track of all the comments we receive and
ensure we respond to them. I wonder if Council Member Holman would be
satisfied if we received direction from you this evening and agreed to, when
we have the comment period on Scenarios 5 and 6, reopen the comment
period on these other scenarios. It's just going to be logistically difficult for
us to keep track of every comment between now and then. It becomes a
paperwork problem for us. We could certainly make that commitment and
receive comments at that time on all of the scenarios.
Council Member Holman: I'm doing the devil's advocate thing in my head
here. Excuse me just for a second. A question then. Would comments
received between now and—I think you said fall would be when "5" and "6"
would be complete. Would comments received between—thank you for your
comment. Would comments received between now and then on the current
and existing DEIR not help inform what the CAC and the Council would be
considering or in what context the Council might be considering the
Comprehensive Plan itself?
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Ms. Gitelman: I think the Council and the public are going to have ample
opportunities to inform what the CAC is doing. We do have this parallel
planning process going forward. I'm just thinking ahead to when we try and
put together a Final EIR. We want to obviously bring the Council a
document that's legally adequate and that's managed to repeat and respond
to all of the substantive comments. That just becomes a huge challenge
with an extended comment period. It would be much better to close it and then reopen it when we have a draft, if that's the Council's desire. Any
comments that the Council or the public has between now and then on the
shape of the Comp Plan could be provided to the CAC in one of our regular
discussions on the Comp Plan itself.
Council Member Holman: I would be okay with that if Vice Mayor Scharff
would agree to that. Is that agreeable?
Vice Mayor Scharff: It's agreeable. I was actually just looking at the
Motion. Wouldn't it just be clearer to say to continue the public comment
period for the DEIR be extended to such time as public comment—shall be
reopened when public comments be received on Scenarios 5 and 6? Should
we use the word reopened? Is that correct if that's what we're going to do?
Council Member Holman: Yeah. I think that captures it.
Vice Mayor Scharff: The first part of it, do we need that? Isn't that what
we're doing?
Council Member Holman: I'm sorry; I haven't had a chance to read what's
up here yet. Making comments on Comprehensive Plan Scenarios 5 and 6 is
maybe not quite the right language, because we're not commenting on it.
For lack of better words at this moment, "and make comments as so desired
on topics in the Comprehensive Plan Draft EIR in the current timeframe." It
gets wordy, but ...
Mayor Burt: It is wordy. Let's work on that. We have a sense of the
intention here. While we hear from colleagues, why don't we work on
making this a little more streamlined? Vice Mayor Scharff, did you want to
speak to your second? I'm sorry.
Council Member Holman: I think we need the words reopened here. We
didn't get ...
Mayor Burt: Why don't you guys work on refining the Motion?
Vice Mayor Scharff: Let me just ...
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Mayor Burt: It won't change the intent from what you've stated.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Let me just speak to it.
Mayor Burt: Yeah.
Vice Mayor Scharff: At last, my sense of this is the intention of this is to
allow everyone to have a 60-day period and revisit all of this when we have
it all in context. That's really all I think we're trying to achieve on this.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Schmid.
Council Member Schmid: A clarification for the Planning Director. My
understanding of the closure and the comments made is Staff and the
consultants who go off and answer the comments, give their considered
opinion and fill in gaps and come back with that. Are we postponing the
answers by reopening in six months or will we get the answers to the
comments that have come in?
Ms. Gitelman: Thank you for that question, Council Member Schmid. It
gives me an opportunity to clarify a couple of things. We had always
thought that when we got your direction to analyze a fifth and sixth
scenario, that after the close of this comment period, we would do that. We
would circulate that analysis for public comment, and then we would prepare
a Final EIR that responded to the comments on this draft and on that supplement at that time.
Council Member Schmid: Comments we make tonight, we will get a
response 12 months from now.
Ms. Gitelman: In the Final EIR which is, as the slide indicated, May of 2017
is the current schedule. I'd like to qualify that however. Many of the
comments we've received are things that, I think, we can address in the
description and analysis of the new scenarios. While we won't be doing what
you see in a Final EIR, which often is summary of comment and then
response, we will have an opportunity because we're doing that
supplemental analysis to take all of these comments into consideration. I
think many of them, I hope, we will be able to address in our discussion and
analysis in the supplement addressing Scenarios 5 and 6.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: I'll probably want to make more comments later, but
I want a general idea of where we are on our whole timeline with the Comp
Plan at this point. Put it right out there in public. Where are we?
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Ms. Gitelman: Thank you ...
Council Member Kniss: At one point, weren't we going to finish in 2015?
Ms. Gitelman: We've been working on this for many years.
Council Member Kniss: Am I correct? I think I remember that correctly.
Ms. Gitelman: Yeah. We've had many schedules. The current schedule
shows us finishing around May of 2017. That presumes that the CAC will be
able to get a draft of the elements to the Council for their review towards the end of this year. The Council would use the first half of 2017 to do its
review while we finish the Final EIR. I'll be honest with you that the CAC
process is going a little slower recently, and that's okay. They're working on
the hardest elements, transportation and land use. Until we actually roll up
our sleeves and get into this analysis of Scenarios 5 and 6, I won't know for
sure. I don't think of any of us know for sure exactly what kind of
complexities we're going to encounter and how long that will take, which is
all a way of saying by the time you get back from your break in August, I
hope we will be bringing forward the Transportation Element from the CAC
for your review and an updated schedule that takes into consideration all of
the factors that I just mentioned.
Council Member Kniss: If we were to state it fairly, we would say the goal is sometime in 2017, mid to the end of the year.
Ms. Gitelman: The current goal is mid ...
Council Member Kniss: That would be helpful.
Ms. Gitelman: ... mid-2017. That's the current goal.
Council Member Kniss: I might have some more comments, but I wanted to
put that on the record, Pat. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: I just want to address our process for this item tonight. Since
we have a motion that is framing the comment periods, we will still have the
issue of our comments tonight. Molly, if we were to vote on this Motion
now, we're not ending the item. We can continue and go forward with the
comments. Correct?
Cara Silver, Senior Assistant City Attorney: No, you can certainly provide
additional comments after the Motion is voted on.
Mayor Burt: The comments would be on the scenarios, and the Motion is on
our procedures going forward.
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Ms. Silver: Yes. We still want to solicit comments on the current scenarios
that we have published in the EIR.
Mayor Burt: Just wanted to make sure. Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: To clarify, I'm just speaking to the Motion and
would like to continue this conversation. If we reopen comments, how long
would the comment period be?
Ms. Gitelman: I think our current schedule assumes again a 60-day comment period.
Council Member DuBois: Thank you for the Motion. This really addresses, I
think, one of my major concerns. I think I mentioned it before. I think this
idea of multiple scenarios and mixing and matching is very confusing for the
public to comment. Adding two more scenarios and treating those in a
supplement, I think, was going to be even more confusing. It's better that
we're doing them altogether. I think even better would be to have a
preferred scenario by the time we get to that final comment period. If
anybody else wants to propose that as an amendment, I'm happy with this
motion. Huh?
Mayor Burt: Propose what as an amendment?
Council Member DuBois: Having actually a preferred alternative when we get to public comment. I think this is a big improvement, so I support the
motion.
MOTION RESTATED: Council Member Holman moved, seconded by Vice
Mayor Scharff to reopen the public comment period for the Comprehensive
Plan Draft Environmental Impact Report (DEIR) for Scenarios 1-4, to run
concurrently with the public comment period for Scenarios 5 and 6.
Mayor Burt: I see no more lights, so we can vote just on this Motion, and
then we can go into our actual discussion of scenarios. That passes—Vice
Mayor Schmid, are you voting? Did you vote? I mean Council Member
Schmid. Just not working. Is it a yes? No. That passes on an 8-1 vote
with Council Member Schmid voting no.
MOTION PASSED: 8-1 Schmid no
Mayor Burt: Now, we can go back to our actual comments on scenarios.
Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: A quick question. When we get to the feedback on
Scenarios 5 and 6, I'd actually went back and looked at our May list. The
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tables are different. I was just curious. Performance-based zoning was
removed in the latest one. Why was that?
Ms. Gitelman: Council Member DuBois, in response to the Council's
discussion on May 16th, we made some adjustments to the tables to try and
clarify the elements of these things. My impression at the 16th was none of
you were all that enthralled by the performance-based terminology. It was
a little too broad. We've tried to be more specific about the zoning measures that would be included in the scenarios. Not to say we couldn't
put that back in if it appealed to you.
Council Member DuBois: I just wanted to make sure it wasn't just replacing
it with different language but meaning the same thing. There's this thing
that says mitigation and sustainability measures adopted to minimize
impacts. Is that meant to be different than performance-based zoning?
Ms. Gitelman: Yeah, that's a different set of—we tried to pull the highlights
and policies from the S/CAP that would be included as mitigation measures
or policies in the new scenarios. I think our assumption is that both of these
scenarios are designed to test the mitigation and sustainability measures
and, in that sense, kind of this approach to focusing on performance. That
terminology didn't resonate with the Council, and so we dropped it out here. We could easily put it back.
Council Member DuBois: To further my comments, I'd like to be really clear
about if we're using it or not. I'd actually suggest we vary that between "5"
and "6."
Ms. Gitelman: That we vary it between "5" and "6," is that what you said?
Council Member DuBois: Yeah. I'll explain that when we get there. Maybe
it applies to "6" but not "5."
Ms. Gitelman: Thank you.
Council Member DuBois: The other one that disappeared was the CC(2)
adjustments. I was just curious why that ... Near California Avenue (Cal.
Ave.)
Ms. Gitelman: Sorry if we dropped that one. We were thinking that—I see.
In that Table 3, we have a row, allowable commercial densities would be
reduced and replaced with residential densities. We just didn't make it
specific.
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Council Member DuBois: I'm looking at Packet Page 554, but I'm comparing
it to Packet Page 430 from our May 16th meeting. I'm sorry.
Ms. Gitelman: We included a kind of broader statement about commercial
densities being converted to residential densities. It just wasn't specific to
the CC(2) or any other district. Again, we had to take your direction and
kind of evolve this to the next level.
Council Member DuBois: That's helpful. I had three kind of areas of concern. One was the process, which we addressed. Another one's kind of
the reliance on highly effective TDMs, and we've talked about that.
Performance-based zoning was another one, and then concerns about the
fiscal analysis. I had planned basically—we have until Wednesday, but I
guess we're—will we leave it open until Wednesday and then close it?
Ms. Gitelman: Yeah. The idea is that the written comment period will close
on close of business on Wednesday.
Council Member DuBois: Again, given the hour, I'll probably submit more
detailed things in writing. Just to highlight. I'm concerned about the
reliance on the TDM goals. I think we should look at the Stanford TDM as an
example of what's possible given kind of best conditions. To assume we
could do better or even as well Downtown seems like a pretty aggressive assumption. You look at the history of Stanford and no new net trips. It
took them 20 years to get to where they are. Again, I would just kind of
compare what they were able to achieve with our assumptions. Again, on
the performance-based zoning, I appreciate you kind of softening that. It
was also kind of concerns about this kind of unproven idea. I think one
thing we had discussed before was could we have something in the Comp
Plan that would trigger if those things don't work. I would like to say I was
a little surprised by the business community pushing back. I'm not really
seeing a benefit to the City's ability to determine density of office use. That
seems like a pretty basic function for a city, not terribly unusual. It would
be nice to be able to work with the business community in a productive way
to really determine what densities are good for employees and good for the
City. The same thing. We're one of the few cities in California without a
business license. It's not a radical idea. It won't be the end of Palo Alto if
we have one. On the fiscal analysis, I read that report quite a while ago, I
guess, when it came out. I really found it pretty troubling. The analysis was
done at the scenario level. We've been told that we're going to mix and
match these scenarios. That report basically assumed we're going to do
Scenario 1 or Scenario 2, and it analyzed the fiscal impacts. I think it would
have been much more useful if we had some indication of more at program
level, like how valuable are the sustainability functions, how valuable are the
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various components that we're likely to mix and match together. I would
suspect that we would find that a combination of this aspect from Scenario 2
and this from Scenario 4 might actually look much better fiscally than—
basically there appear to be no difference between the scenarios fiscally.
Another concern I had was that there was no change to rates, either
residential rates or commercial rates. We had a scenario where we were
proposing slower commercial growth, but it didn't impact the commercial rental rates. The same thing happened with housing. If we built a lot of
housing, no impact on housing prices. It basically said we could cover
increases in services with little additional operational cost, but every budget
season we see demand for more services and a requirement for more Staff.
That didn't really seem to match up with reality. No additional capital
improvements were needed in any of the scenarios. Again, I would have
expected Scenario 4 to show a need for additional infrastructure. I think the
most shocking thing in that report was the claim that a new resident is worth
more to the City than a new employee, which was a total flip of everything
we've seen before. In the past, we've done these analyses, and an
employee costs the City less than services and was worth more. I'm trying
to figure out why that analysis showed that. It may be because business revenue to the City is dropping relative to revenue generated by residents.
Something that Council Member Schmid has brought up repeatedly. Again,
it perhaps highlights the need to replace a loss in business sales tax with
some other form of revenue. Again, if you guys have any insight into why
that flip occurred. That was a pretty dramatic result.
Ms. Gitelman: Maybe Ben can help us out here. I'd just say that my take-
away from the Fiscal Study really was that the numbers we're talking were
really small. It was on the positive side. The impacts of the growth
projected in the scenarios were not going to be negative is how I would
characterize the conclusion, because we're talking about such small positive
numbers. Let me see if Ben can help us on the question of residents versus
employees.
Benjamin Sigman, Economic and Planning Systems (EPS): Good evening,
Mayor Burt, Council Members. My name's Ben Sigman, Economic and
Planning Systems or EPS, the firm that conducted the Fiscal Study. In the
study, we do go through great lengths more so than prior work done here
and in many places. We've done these Fiscal Studies to isolate the costs
and revenues attributable to residents as compared with workers in the City.
When you really pick that apart, which I think we did fairly successfully here,
we realized that the revenue-generating potential of residents, largely due to
the real estate home values and the density of the homes, creates a huge
sort of revenue center for the City. Being a mature City, the cost of service
at the margin isn't particularly high. There is an opportunity to gain a fiscal
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surplus from new residents. A lot of the studies you may have seen that
look at fiscal impacts are done on an average for the whole city. Total
residents in the City, total costs attributable to the residents doesn't look as
good. In Palo Alto again, where the government services are very mature,
you can add population without a lot of cost. When you add population
here, it comes with a lot of tax revenue.
Council Member DuBois: Thank you. I did see the discussion of the Finance Committee in terms of, again, what we see in reality in terms of costs going
up as population goes up doesn't necessarily match what you're saying
there.
Mr. Sigman: I understand. We try to be as scientific as possible. We're
holding a lot of variables constant. We're really trying to focus on what
happens to the budget as you run it today if we change land use and nothing
else. That's part of the way we simplified it to get a good answer for you. I
just also want to point out that we will be carrying on with the City to
conduct work looking at the cost of some of the infrastructure included in
some of the scenarios and the potential fiscal effects of those. There's a
capital investment piece of the analysis that will be coming to you. The
piece of work that you have in hand is an operational view. We don't think that the Scenarios 1-4 have a dramatic effect on the City from an
operational standpoint. Along with those, we do envision some pretty
significant infrastructure investments. The fiscal ramifications of those, I
think, we'll be looking at in the future.
Council Member DuBois: Thanks. Just to wrap up. One of the things you
asked us was for a confirmation on Scenarios 5 and 6. I guess I'd like to
make a Motion at some point, but I'll just say my comments now and see
maybe if we can come back. Again, I think the goal is to test a range. I'd
suggest we differentiate Scenario 5 and 6. On Scenario 5 specifically, I
would want to add back some of the things from Scenario 2, which would be
the CUP for employment densities, the County expressway implementation,
and the CC(2) reductions near Cal. Ave. I think that would differentiate "5"
from "6." Otherwise, I think you guys pretty much nailed it in terms of
things that would be included in each scenario. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Vice Mayor Scharff.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Thank you. First of all, do we have the Motion that we
did on "5" and "6"? I'd like to see that at some point. Maybe someone can
look for it while I talk, and we get someone else, besides you Hillary, looking
for it, unless you have it. My recollection on those Motions and
performance-based zoning discussion may have been a little different. I just
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wanted to see what it said. I guess I'll start with the fiscalization of land
use. I also was a little surprised by the outcome on that. When I looked at
the numbers, it looked to me that what drives a lot of this is the way you
allocate the police services. I think you allocated 70 percent to business and
30 percent. I think that skews the results in a way that makes the study,
frankly, not work. What you basically say is that the Downtown creates a lot
of the calls, especially on weekends in that. That's related to commercial activity; therefore, if we add commercial activity, we are putting that not for
residents. We're putting that towards employment. I think what we're
really talking about is retail in the Downtown as opposed to office workers,
given the ... I think by lumping that altogether and given the huge impact,
70 percent, given the pensions of police officers and all of that. I really ask
ourself, if we got rid of our Downtown and it didn't exist, could we really get
rid of 70 percent of our police officers. Intuitively that just didn't strike me
as right, to be honest. When I asked little questions about this Fiscal Study,
intuitively it didn't really make sense to me. When you look at most cities,
take San Jose for instance. They're always bemoaning they don't have more
jobs and that they have too many residences. They're bemoaning that
because they don't want to have the residents. They want the cash and the money and all of that that goes with that. What your study is saying is the
opposite, that we should go out—if we want to have lots of money in our
City, we should build as much housing as possible and minimize jobs.
Intuitively, that's wrong. It just clearly is. When you start to break this
stuff down—I can give you another example. What seemed to drive a lot of
the resident stuff for me in your study was that housing rates turn over
much faster and drive property taxes; whereas, commercial turns over a lot
slower. Is that correct? That struck me as ...
Mr. Sigman: That factor's included. I would ...
Vice Mayor Scharff: That seemed to be a fairly large factor in that.
Mr. Sigman: I don't think it's a significant driver of the ...
Vice Mayor Scharff: You didn't think it was a significant driver?
Mr. Sigman: I don't think that is, no.
Vice Mayor Scharff: You don't think the fact that commercial—okay. Council
Member Schmid, I guess you should probably stop talking about that.
Mr. Sigman: Actually I should add when I met with the Finance Committee,
this was obviously an issue that we spoke about at length. One of the things
that we suggested we would do, and we'll do, is a sensitivity analysis around
those turnover rates. We do indicate that the commercial doesn't turn over
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to the same degree, at the same rate that the residential does. I think that
there were arguments made for even lower turnover on the commercial.
We're going to test that and see the effect that it has. If I may about the
police services. I just want to note that we did work extensively with the
Police Department to produce that cost allocation. It doesn't reflect my
firm's opinion of what's going on. It's our coordination with the Police
Department, their assessment of calls for service or incident-type data by the locations that it occurs. We agreed after the Finance Committee to go
back and speak with the Fire Department a little bit more. I think it may be
based on your comments, the Police Department as well.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I'm trying to figure out what I'm supposed to use this
fiscalization of land use study for. What I would assume I'd use it for was is
in saying to myself, if we lower job growth, is that going to have an effect on
our budget and we have more residents. What came out of that was that if
we have more residents, we'll have more money in the budget. If we lower
job growth, we'll have nominally. Yes, it's not a huge number; it's $67
million. First of all, that just didn't seem like the right conclusion to draw
out of all that. It seemed like the numbers were wrong, and I thought it had
to do a lot with the Police Department. I think it has to do with the way you allocate retail and not breakdown ... Obviously, the more retail we have and
more regional center, you draw people from out of the City, the more money
you make. That's one of our drivers. If we do rental housing for instance,
that turns over, I would assume, much more like a commercial building. If
you own an apartment complex, you're going to not sell it based on
Proposition (Prop) 13, similar to owning an office building. That's just
intuitive; I may be wrong on that. That seems different than a condo
project; whereas, individuals would have condos. I think it's more
complicated than that. When I looked at the rest of the stuff, most of the
City services that we spend are in response to residents, not in (inaudible).
Public Works was another one. We took the Public Works budget—this didn't
make any sense to me—and we said businesses drive 56 percent of the
Public Works projects because it's trip generation on roads and its 40
percent residents. The Public Works budget is much more than just the
roads that we're doing. It just didn't seem the right way to allocate the
Public Works budget. I am just wondering what useful information came out
of that Fiscal Study that would inform me on the Comp Plan. I don't really
think there was any, that I can point to, that was useful in saying what we
should do. It struck me that the drivers of this stuff are you want to have
more Transient Occupancy Tax (TOT). If you want more money, you want
more TOT, more auto dealerships, things that drive sales tax and you want
to turn over your existing property as much as possible. You did point out—
that was one useful thing—that the amount we actually build doesn't create
that much new property taxes compared to the turnover from Prop 13. Was
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there something else I should have taken out of that study? I know you
seemed anxious to say something.
Mr. Sigman: I would just offer that my firm conducts these Fiscal Studies
throughout California for 30 years. This is a very detailed one. I think we're
providing you a lot of granularity around the uses and the uses by
employment versus residential occupancy. What we're finding here is that
you can grow without severely damaging your General Fund. You can grow employment without damaging your General Fund, and you can grow
residents without damaging your General Fund. I think that's the takeaway.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Moving on to the comments on the scenarios. I also
actually, when I listened to the business community come up and speak, had
similar concerns. I think we could really damage the business environment
by creating uncertainty. Business hates uncertainty more than anything
else. The notion of a conditional use permit is a bad way to go. If we want
to limit employment density, we need to somehow say it's no more than four
per 1,000 or something like that, so businesses know what it is. I'm not
saying that's the right solution, but I'm saying—I think it becomes
particularly damaging when you're going between R&D and office use. What
struck me is when I went up to Tesla, and we were all happy that Tesla opened up. I remember how difficult it was to get them open and all of that.
There are parts of time they need to do R&D; they need to switch back and
forth. Any sort of innovative business up there like Tesla, because I haven't
visited other ones, but I’m hearing from the business community I think it
applies to many more companies than Tesla. They need to have the
flexibility to do some R&D, to have more lab space. Then, if they have more
lab space, to then say not that that they're giving up office space if they
want to move it from lab to office. I think that flexibility of going between
R&D and office is really important. I'm also concerned about creating
uncertainty in the process. I think the creation of uncertainty in our Comp
Plan will drive a real negative impact on business. I'm concerned that the
EIR seems to have no analysis of that, of the uncertainty factor of that. I'd
even say on the office cap it's really interesting. We put in a beauty contest-
type concept into the office cap. People are like, "I'm not necessarily
wanting to spend the time, the money to go through this process without
knowing I get there." If you had a first-in-first-out approach, then people
can say, "I'm in the queue. I know where I'm going to be and, therefore, I
will get it or I will not get it." I think the more uncertainty we create in this,
the more damage we're going to do to our business environment. I am
concerned about that. I think we should listen to our business community,
especially when it's well thought out like I thought the people from the
Research Park when they came and spoke on this, actually spoke quite
articulately. I thought a lot of their letters were articulate. I would support
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that. I was also—let's see. What else was I going to say about this? Did
you find what the original motion was that's up on the board? That's what I
remembered it as. It says including a performance-based approach with
policies and mitigation members. The language actually says performance
based, and that was the direction from Council, and that's the way I
remembered it. It was really confusing to me when you said you dropped
that because you got different direction from Council.
Ms. Gitelman: Thank you for clarifying that, Vice Mayor Scharff. We did
assume that there would be a mitigation regime that would be attached to
these two new scenarios. Really the intention of these new scenarios was in
part to test the efficacy of the mitigation regime. I apologize that we
dropped the performance-based lingo out of here. That's clearly the
intention; both of these would test the mitigation approach that we've
articulated in the EIR and any changes that the Council would like us to
incorporate.
Vice Mayor Scharff: That was my only confusion. I thought in response to
Council Member DuBois' question you said it was a different tool set, the
mitigation measures, as opposed to a performance-based approach. I
thought you said there was a difference. I just heard you say maybe there isn't a difference. I'm confused.
Ms. Gitelman: We understood the Council to be interested in seeing how
these two scenarios would perform with a suite of mitigation and
performance measures. I'm using those terms pretty interchangeably.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: Let me ask a couple of questions that reference the
Minutes that are in our packet. I'm looking at the Minutes that came from
the start of the meeting that you had with the Finance Committee. Are you
Mister—is it Sigman? Am I pronouncing it right? Looking at the Packet
Pages that are 393 and 394, you reference—let me get closer to the mike.
You have referenced on this—it's important to note we looked back 15 years
at some of the trends, so we're not operating in sort of a bubble. Do you
recall what the slide was? What you might have looked at.
Mr. Sigman: I have the report in front of me. The graphic is also included
in the report. It's a historic ...
Council Member Kniss: Is the graphic in here some place that I haven't
found?
Mr. Sigman: No, it's in the actual fiscal analysis dated January 15th.
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Council Member Kniss: Which I don't happen to have in front of me. What
page is it on?
Mr. Sigman: Page 12, Figure 7.
Council Member Kniss: While I'm looking for that—could you find that?
Would you be my secretary? As you look back at that with the reminder
that this Plan that we're doing tonight is going to go through 2038, the last
Plan that was done was decided on in 1998. Now, it's going to be almost 20 years later before we finally get this accomplished. I would think that as
you look back over that 15 years, that would have given you some very
good insight. That is what you're saying this is, correct?
Mr. Sigman: Correct.
Council Member Kniss: That's the expenditure trend, which started in ...
Mr. Sigman: We're looking back from 2000.
Council Member Kniss: It looks like—2000. You took it out about 15 years,
as you said you'd gone back. Starting in 2000, it being at 90. Now having
gone up considerably. You have it crossing. Say a little more about this
chart, would you?
Mr. Sigman: I'm sorry? I didn't understand your question.
Council Member Kniss: Just expand on the information that's in that chart.
Mr. Sigman: You're looking at your General Fund expenditures graphed in
two ways. The lighter gray that comes up sharply is nominal dollars. Those
are the dollars that occurred in the year referenced. The dark gray line on
top is the same trend but adjusted to be constant 2014 dollars. That's as if
it were all in today's money. What you can see is that when we convert it all
to today's money, it's a much flatter line. In real dollars, in constant dollars,
the budget trend is much flatter than in nominal dollars.
Council Member Kniss: Therefore ...
Mr. Sigman: It backs the idea that the municipal government here in the
General Fund is fairly stable. It's fairly flat in constant dollars. There was a
steep period in the early 2000s, but after that a relatively stable General
Fund.
Council Member Kniss: Therefore, did you look at what the trends were
economically as you did this? Did it follow any of those trend lines such as—
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in '01 and '02, I would think that, because that was a recession time, that
would have altered the amount that we spent here in this budget.
Mr. Sigman: We corresponded with a number of your department
representatives to assess the degree to which their operations had changed
during these particular years to see if we could draw conclusions about
staffing in the different City departments and the effect on their budget
more so than macro-economic trends.
Council Member Kniss: Is what you're saying, without putting words in your
mouth, that the trend—this also shows that it actually comes together—
would indicate that, if we continue on the path we're on, we stay in pretty
good stead financially. Am I reading that into this? I know you went
through this with the Finance Committee at length.
Mr. Sigman: Yes. I think that what we're saying is that your budget is fairly
stable. I can't ignore the fact that there is difficulty in the current budgeting
cycle; there's a challenging budget at hand this year. Looking back more
than a decade, we see relatively strong fiscal stability in the City.
Council Member Kniss: Help me make some sense out of this. Between ...
Mayor Burt: Tell us where you're going. What does this have to do with the
scenarios?
Council Member Kniss: Here's what it has to do with it. We grew from
2,000 to 2015 or thereabouts, almost 10,000 people. This doesn't seem to
reflect that. When we're talking about the number of people and the
number of jobs that we're going to be looking at ...
Mayor Burt: Is this adjusted for population and jobs or is it just absolute
dollars?
Mr. Sigman: This is just dollars. This is straight out of your Comprehensive
Annual Financial Reporting.
Council Member Kniss: It would say to me that regardless of the number of
people that you add, the dollars stay pretty constant. Would that say if we
had ...
Mr. Sigman: They're going up a modest amount ...
Council Member Kniss: Suppose we add another 10,000 people.
Mr. Sigman: Yes. There's a modest trend upward. I think our report
projects a modest trend upward.
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Council Member Kniss: That's where I'm going with this. A modest trend
upward. I'm not suggesting we add 10,000 people; that certainly isn't my
point. I don't know how you can predict the future without having known
what's gone on in the past. This indicates what has happened over that past
15 years with great changes, changes in population, changes in job growth
and so forth, from which I think you can make a number of deductions.
Mayor Burt: I'd like to jump in here at a moderately high level on mitigations and impacts. The comments that we heard from both the
Chamber and most of all from the Stanford Research Park representatives
around, one, the problems with having mitigations and limitations be project
based as opposed to something that's broader and how that lack of flexibility
at a more granular level is problematic in their eyes, and a challenge to us to
look at what we're really concerned about, in particular with the Research
Park, but to a great degree throughout the community which is trip
generation. I'm particularly interested in what is essentially a performance-
based standard, but it's performance based at a higher level. That is trip
caps, which is what we have for Stanford University. Along those lines is
what Mountain View is looking at for their whole North Bayshore area. I'm
much more intrigued by having trip caps as the most direct way to look at the real problems. Something that would be potentially both more flexible
and more aggressive in mitigations than other alternatives. In the end, if we
look at, say, Stanford Research Park as a whole or what we call East
Bayshore, I guess Mountain View calls it North Bayshore, those areas that
are discrete enough in terms of entry points that we potentially could be
able to monitor and quantify, and then tie what goes forward based upon
not only a cap but potentially a reduction. We have our other areas of town
where we actually now have a way to have trip caps, and that is through our
Residential Permit Parking. We can't parking overflow; therefore, you can't
have more cars because they have no place to park. In our Downtown area
we've already established that we're going to ratchet back the number of
commercial permits in the neighborhoods each year, so we basically have a
program there that, unless we build a bunch of parking capacity in
Downtown, we're going to see fewer trips as a result of fewer parking
spaces. We have the question is that just wishful thinking, that we could
move in this direction. I think we are now for the first time in at least a half
century entering an area of really major transformations in transportation.
Just a whole series, a suite, of new technologies and integrations of
technologies that really make possible some things that previously we could
hope for, we could talk about, but they weren't as real as what we're seeing
right now. I'm very interested in looking at, not carte blanche if we put a
trip cap, but certainly that being perhaps our most important measure that
we would have and to look at it in sub-regions. The Research Park, the East
Bayshore indirectly through the University Avenue, Downtown and once
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we're going to have RPP adjacent to Cal. Ave., then we'll have it in that
greater area. Really all we'd—most of the City that we'd have left that could
be impacted from commercial development would be along El Camino. That
may be more challenging, and maybe there's certain areas that we still have
to have more site-specific controls. For the most part, I think we could be
moving in a direction of really significant, quantifiable, not only trip caps but
I'd want to see trip reduction. If we allowed a little more leeway, say, in the Stanford Research Park, I'd want to see actually not maintaining gridlock
that we have today, but reducing it. I think that's what we really ought to
be looking at. I wanted to jump in because I want to hear my colleagues'
thoughts on that concept. I think it's a pretty fundamental one and
potentially one that could have a real favorable impact on the community
and, frankly, on the business community, because the congestion is as
problematic to them as it is to our residents. There, I think, are new
technology solutions, new monitoring solutions. Hillary, what is the
company that we're engaged with for Safe Routes to School that has the
advanced monitoring technologies?
Ms. Gitelman: VIMOC is the name of the firm.
Mayor Burt: Even on the ability to monitor, we have new tools that we never had before. I think this is something that we should be including in
our analysis under Scenarios 5 and 6 perhaps and really considering as a
preferred scenario as well. Now, we may see the need for a hybrid of sorts,
because it may not address all the areas of our community. It may very well
address the biggest trip-generation areas. Council Member Schmid.
Council Member Schmid: Let me start with process. A couple of quotes
from the Planning Commission meetings from the PlaceWorks representative
at the end of the meeting. Joanna Jensen said three things. "I definitely
heard from some of you, maybe all of you, that the scenarios don't really
seem to represent a range. The goal of the scenarios is to present a low and
a high." Second quote. "Every community we look at is different." Third
quote at the end of the meeting. "Preferred scenarios and mitigation
measures effectively reduce impacts or do we need to have additional
measures." That's sort of the issue we're grappling at tonight, embedded in
these three assessments. Also, I go back to Section 6 in the DEIR;
alternatives it says. In there, they quote the CEQA Guidelines that said
CEQA should consider a range of potential, reasonable alternatives that will
foster informed decision-making and public participation. It goes on,
though, in that first section to say we can't look at a no growth alternative
because growth would only continue somewhere else and some impacts may
actually be worse than in Palo Alto. They rejected no growth. It seems to
me every single one of our scenarios now has a minimum average of almost
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twice our long-term, nonresidential growth rate. That doesn't seem to
capture the notion of low to high. Maybe my first general question is
shouldn't we be addressing a low and a high somewhere. Let me give six
specific examples. First is the jobs/housing balance. Palo Alto isn't like
other communities. You say every community is different. We are really
different. We have three jobs to every employed residence. There's no
other city of over 50,000 people in the United States that has that. If you look around the Bay Area, Silicon Valley, we have rates that are dramatically
higher than every other community including San Francisco. The
jobs/housing imbalance is something we have to deal with in our scenarios.
How can we address it? How can we look for mitigations of that issue? Let's
look at the key mitigation issues or problem areas. Traffic. Let me just
focus on Trans 1. Trans 1 looks at intersections. There are five key
intersections you look at. I'm sorry. There are 11 or 12, but there are five
that will be operating, are now operating at F levels. All four scenarios have
at least three intersections. Those intersections leave out at least six
intersections that were included in the 1998 Comp Plan. Other intersections
on El Camino and Sand Hill that we have noted in approving local projects in
the last few months that will be operating at F sections. The conclusion is that even the mitigations, including TDMs, grade separations, regional
solutions, would not eliminate the projected impacts of five of the six
intersections we've been talking about. Traffic remains a critical, significant
and unavoidable issue. Why not look at slower, nonresidential growth?
Question number one. Look then at TDM. TDM is identified as maybe the
most effective means, mitigation that we have in our toolbox. If you look at
the TDMs that work, there seem to be two around here that do. One is the
Stanford Medical Center. Why does that work? Stanford is going to be fined
$177,000 for each year it doesn't meet the goal. They have committed
$125 million in things like Go Passes and shuttles and Zipcars and
emergency drivers, a whole host of things. $2.5 million a year to deal with
11,000 workers. They control each worker. They have a payroll with all the
SUMC workers on it. Those are conditions that don't exist anywhere else in
our town, that type of control, that commitment to spending. They have an
annual report where they do a survey. It's interesting they've been working
on this now for four or five years. They just came out last year and said,
"We had to relook at our surveys and actually our weightings weren't done
correctly. We have to adjust our numbers 15-20 percent down." Stanford is
having trouble getting an appropriate measurement to make it work.
Another area where TDM seems to work is north of 101 in Mountain View.
What do they have? They have two big employers, but the key thing is
there are only three routes in. As the Mayor pointed out, they have placed a
cap on the number of cars that they want entering. They can measure it,
and they do measure it very effectively on an ongoing basis. It's hard to do
that in Palo Alto. We don't have a big business section with only three roads
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or at least we have not been measuring effectively. That certainly is a
mitigation, Trans 1, that we should look at effectively and importantly.
There's been a little talk about money. Where do we get money to do these
things? They want the General Fund to help support our TDM. The issue
with money in Palo Alto is we are very successful with nonresidential, with
jobs. We have that 3:1 ratio, higher than anyone else in the country. Our
budget should be bursting with money. A funny thing about our budget and the budget of all local governments is property taxes fund an important part,
43 percent, in Palo Alto. Our School District, it's over 80 percent. Our
community college district, it's over 80 percent. The County tax revenue,
it's over 80 percent. Special districts, it's over 90 percent. Property tax. Is
this influx of businesses helping us? No. If you look over the last 12 years,
every year despite the rapid growth in business, three times the rate of
employed residents. The share of property tax paid by nonresidents is
dropping by one percentage point a year. It's now making up 25 percent of
our property tax, the property tax of the schools, of the County, community
colleges and other special districts. That's an issue. Why not cut back then
the growth on nonresidential if it is not paying its fair share? There's
another issue out there which might be the most important long-term issue. The point was made by someone that the Comprehensive Plan might be the
most important document for our future. It's our chance to talk about our
longer-term future. Look under schools, demographics in schools, Pop 4 or
PS 1, PS 2. There you look at what is expected from this growth in
population in the City, and the school yields that will come will be half of
what they have been in the past. If you look at Palo Alto today, every
housing unit provides 0.34 students to the school. The projection of this 10
percent increase in population that we have is going to increase the school
population by 0.1, less than half—0.18, I'm sorry, just about half. That's a
startling change in the community. Sort of an announcement, we're going
to be a different community in the future. Each of the four scenarios
outlined here, saying our housing growth will be for young workers and
aging seniors. That's why the yield is low. We're creating a different type of
community. Is there any community like this? Not our neighbors. If you
look at all of Santa Clara County, the yield is about 0.34. If you look at all of
San Mateo County, the yield is about 0.34. San Francisco is the only
exception. It is down there with a yield of about 0.14. We are trying to
make ourselves into a business-centric city with a commute population
instead of a seedbed of Silicon Valley. We have mature workers between
the ages of 30 and 65 establishing families and living as a community. That
is a profound change, and it should be noted in Pop 4, PS 1, PS 2. Finally, if
we're looking at longer-term things, look at water. Utility 1, Utility 2. All
our scenarios are pointing to fairly rapid growth between 10 and 20 percent
in both population and workers, jobs. Our water picture says water will
grow about 2.3 percent over that time period. Now, that's a little scary if
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you have that discrepancy of 10-20 percent growth in new people and new
jobs, but a two percent growth in expected water use. In this last year, we
had the lowest level of per capita use, gallons per day, that we've had in the
last 50 years. Does this mean that we want to decrease by 20 percent the
use of water per capita in our community? Maybe, but let's have that as one
of the impacts of your rapid growth scenarios.
Mayor Burt: Are we wrapping up here?
Council Member Schmid: Yes. I just want to say that a key issue here is
rates of growth. A goal of the scenarios in the CEQA definition is to have a
high and a low. We certainly should include a low or at least talk about the
impacts that we are creating without mitigations.
Mayor Burt: Calling on a colleague. I just want to respond to one concern
by Council Member Schmid that I keep hearing as a refrain by different
members of the community, and that's concern on water. Water is certainly
a very important issue for us going forward, but data that we have shows
that we have reduced our water use by approximately 40 percent over the
last 20 years with a 10 percent increase in population growth.
Council Member Schmid: (inaudible)
Mayor Burt: I reference the trend line, because it is a trend line. That is an indication of the future. That's why it's there, and that's why that data is
valuable.
Council Member Schmid: Remember also the trend line of nonresidential
growth over the last 30 years has been one-half of what each of these
scenarios have. That might be connected.
Mayor Burt: We have had significant residential growth and commercial
growth in that period of time and huge reduction in water. Anything other
than that is a misrepresentation of the facts.
Council Member Schmid: I think one of the CEQA goals is not to compare
with the past but to talk about the future. We have cut back, and we want
to cut back some more.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Schmid, you just got done citing a whole
bunch of past patterns projecting toward the future over the last half hour. I
think you want to cherry-pick it. Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: Thank you. A couple of comments about some of
these specifics. First, I actually want to address a couple of high level issues
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that I think are relevant for the Draft EIR. First, Council Member DuBois
actually pointed out that—he made a claim that adding—pointed out that
adding housing in Palo Alto, even the scenarios that add more housing,
won't necessarily reduce the rental rates for housing in Palo Alto. That's
true kind of, in the same way that reducing our greenhouse gas emissions
won't necessarily reduce global climate change and the impacts of sea level
rise on Palo Alto. Like climate change, it's a problem that's a collective action problem. It's bigger than us. The housing crisis is a regional thing.
We were talking about this earlier tonight for an issue that we're going to
reopen for more public comment after this. The idea that we shouldn't try
and do our part to address an issue that's larger than us, the idea that that
means we shouldn't try just because it's a bigger picture issue is one that we
rejected with climate change. I hope it's one we can reject when it comes to
housing. There is a crisis of a lack of housing supply at market rate and
certainly at affordable rates. That is regional. Palo Alto has a moral and
also a legal obligation to do our part to address that problem. It's really a
straw man argument. I want to be very clear in rejecting it. This straw man
argument that those of us who are advocating for the higher housing
scenarios think that doing so on its own will solve the whole problem, we don't make that argument. There's also a related straw man argument that
those of us advocating for the higher housing scenarios believe that if there
is enough housing in Palo Alto, every employee who works in Palo Alto will
live in Palo Alto. Also a straw man. I don't think anyone else makes that
argument. If there is more housing in the region, especially located near
transit nodes, such as Caltrain stations up and down the Peninsula, it does
make it easier for people to live in the area. As all academic research
shows—whether you want to reject the science or not, all the academic
research shows that if you do add supply in the region, it will address the
housing cost or at least keep it from escalating and getting worse and worse.
This goes back to the jobs/housing imbalance. I think it's really interesting
that at least a couple of my colleagues and some members of the public
used to talk a lot about the jobs/housing imbalance and really focus on that.
I commend Council Member Schmid for continuing to focus on it. Some
others used to focus on it, until they realized that addressing the
jobs/housing imbalance could not just be done by trying to limit jobs. It
would mean you'd actually have to allow a little bit more housing or maybe a
substantial amount of housing. When those colleagues of mine and
members of the public realized that addressing the jobs/housing imbalance
means you're actually going to have to add a lot of housing, they stopped
talking about jobs/housing imbalance. I think it's worth pointing out the
change in discussion that we've heard. There's also been a longstanding
discussion about unavoidable impacts with housing development. I've heard
Council Member Filseth, for instance, dating back to December of 2013 if not
sooner, talking about the unavoidable impacts, saying that we could choose
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whether we want to grow our population or not grow our population, saying
that if you do ...
Council Member Holman: Mayor Burt? Mayor Burt? I apologize, and I
apologize for interrupting. I do apologize, Council Member Wolbach, for
interrupting. We are not advancing our item tonight. We are making
comments that are our personal perspective and policy. We are at 10:30
P.M. We have another item yet in front of us. I don't know if the best way to address this is—with due respect to Council Member Wolbach who I
interrupted—to try to move us forward, if we should continue our comments
on Scenarios 5 and 6 to a future date or how we want to address this. We
have a number of people here who have been waiting for the next item.
Mayor Burt: I hear you and okay. Let me just say that I agree with you. I
think colleagues have not been focused in their comments around ways that
we progress on these comments on scenarios. They've been far too much in
terms of longwinded, philosophical comments with some areas of value to
the scenarios, but we need to filter out the rest. Our alternatives are that
we continue this item or that we have focused comments, because we have
another important item before us tonight.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Why don't we do the other item and come back to this (inaudible)?
Mayor Burt: We actually have the final conclusion of actually former Item
18.
Vice Mayor Scharff: (inaudible) voted on it.
Mayor Burt: We did vote on it. That's right. We decided it. I forgot how
we ended up. Why don't we do that? We'll suspend this item. We have
consultants here. I think if we're going to move on to the next item, we
need to determine when we can reschedule this.
Council Member Kniss: (inaudible) for continuing it or any (crosstalk).
Council Member Holman: Yes.
James Keene, City Manager: Wait. You're talking about sort of suspending
it with continuing it at some future meeting, not tonight. There's no way
you can do it tonight.
Mayor Burt: When I first said suspend, I was thinking about later tonight.
Now, it's continuing.
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Council Member Wolbach: Mayor Burt, were we planning on making more
motions? I was just offering comments, and I was very close to wrapping
up. I appreciate your patience especially after the last couple of lengthy
comments. I was pretty close to wrapping mine up. I don't know if we were
planning on making any more motions or if we were just finishing up
comments to provide for Staff and we could finish this item.
Council Member DuBois: I had a short Motion which I outlined before that I was hoping to get out.
Council Member Holman: Some of us haven't commented at all yet.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I move we continue it.
Council Member Berman: Second.
Council Member Holman: Second.
MOTION: Council Member Scharff moved, seconded by Council Member
Holman to continue this Agenda Item.
Mayor Burt: From a Staff standpoint, if we do continue it, it'd be continued
'til when, though?
Ms. Gitelman: Thank you, Mayor Burt. I'll go back to Council Member Kniss'
observation. We've already continued what was originally a 60-day
comment period quite a bit past that. I would say that every day we continue it from here on is a direct impact on schedule. I'm not saying we
can't continue it, but I just want everybody to be aware that it ends up
impacting the schedule. We can't begin our analysis of Scenarios 5 and 6
until we conclude this hearing.
Mayor Burt: If we could wrap this up in the next less than 15 minutes, then
maybe we don't continue it. I can't hear you. You need to use your
microphone if you want to speak.
Council Member Filseth: Sorry. If you were going to let the consultants go,
I actually had two technical questions about the DEIR that I wanted to ask
them.
Mayor Burt: I'm going to allow Council Member Wolbach to wrap up, and
then we'll hear briefly from Council Members Filseth and Holman. Council
Member Holman, do you think you'll be moderately brief?
MOTION WITHDRAWN BY THE MAKER
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Council Member Holman: I can be brief, but I don't think what I have to say
is going to be conclusive. I think people will want to have comments to my
comments. I could be wrong.
Mayor Burt: Let me give it a shot. Let's refocus here. Council Member
Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: Allow me to finish please, and I appreciate the
concern that Council Member ...
Mayor Burt: Just continue please.
Council Member Wolbach: To finish the point I was making, we've heard
from Council Member Filseth and others for a long time about the
unavoidable impacts such as impacts on schools. We've heard about this
tonight; that's why I'm discussing it. The unavoidable impacts on schools,
parks, water, traffic, parking, the aesthetic character of the community,
crime, etc., that are unavoidably supposedly accompanying any substantial
future housing growth. It was a surprise to me when I heard from Council
Member Filseth when we sat down for coffee before we started serving on
Council together, and he admitted to me that actually he agrees these are
solvable problems. They're actually not unavoidable problems as they've
always been described as.
Mayor Burt: Just focus on your comments.
Council Member Wolbach: These are my comments. My point is ...
Mayor Burt: You're now ...
Council Member Wolbach: My point is ...
Mayor Burt: I'm going to end this item if we can't focus on comments on
the scenarios, not coffee with Council Member Filseth a year ago, any of
those things. I'm just telling you we're going to do that.
Council Member Wolbach: I'll be done in two minutes or less. The point is
as we work through these scenarios, there is widespread recognition that the
impacts of housing growth are solvable problems. They're not unavoidable.
When it comes to the specifics, quickly. Attachment F talks about loosening
the height limit for Scenario 6. Although I've been surprised by the number
of people in the community who are starting to advocate for changing the
height limit, I might be comfortable with saying that we'd explore changing
the height limit. Right now, it's identified as something that would happen
as part of Scenario 6 and perhaps others. I don't think that the community
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is interested and ready to do that. I have heard people in the community
say that they'd be more interested in exploring it if it relates to affordable
housing for seniors, veterans, disabled, etc. Again, this is on Packet Page
553 in the chart there, Table 3. I don't think that should be a necessary
part of Scenario 6. Also on what Mayor Burt was talking about regarding trip
caps, I think that's very worth exploration. Those are my comments. Thank
you.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Filseth.
Council Member Filseth: Thank you. I hope this is the right forum for this.
I actually had two technical questions on this. One actually is on water. If
you look on Page 4.14-23 of the DEIR, Table 4.14-2 looks at water demand
for the four scenarios. It looks to me like projected water demand is
basically identical across all four scenarios even though population growth is
significantly different across those. Am I reading that right? If so, why is
that?
Ms. Jansen: I would be happy to spend more time looking at this. Just as
an initial reaction, it's true that the numbers across the—I think what you're
looking at is maybe the top row of Table 4.14-2 in terms of residential
across the scenarios. Those differences are kind of within 100,000 gallons per day of each other. What you've got to bear in mind is that this is
incorporating all of the water use in the City. The increment of difference,
which is really only a few thousand units, between the scenarios when folded
into the total and then multiplied by 73.1 gallons per day, this is what the
math comes out to.
Council Member Filseth: Essentially what we're saying is that it's not
sensitive to population growth, residential water consumption.
Ms. Jansen: I think you could—it's a difference of 73.1 gallons per day per—
that's service population, both residents and employees. I think ...
Council Member Filseth: I'm just looking at the residential line.
Ms. Jansen: Yeah. Another interpretation, I think, could be that just the
difference is the range in housing units among the four scenarios that are
looked at in the Draft EIR does not have an enormous impact on residential
water consumption.
Council Member Filseth: Although, one is 15 percent higher. Even within it,
it's not sensitive at that level is what you're saying.
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Ms. Gitelman: I think Joanna's right. It's because we are including all of the
existing housing and existing population in this number. The delta is just so
small when you compare it to the total.
Council Member Filseth: I'm sort of including the existing one too. Scenario
2 grows population like a few percent over 15 years, and Scenario 4 grows it
15 1/2 percent over 15 years. If, in fact, water consumption is different—I
mean, it's good news. It says that water consumption in this town isn't terribly sensitive to population growth. I just want to make sure that's the
proper assumption here. The second one I wanted to ask has to do with
schools. If you look on page—I mean, basically they're all similar. If you
look on, for example, Page 4.12-4, essentially all four scenarios say that
we're going to be approximately at capacity for elementary schools and high
schools and over capacity for middle schools, but they all come to the
conclusion that there's no significant impact. Part of the disclaimer for that
has to do with SB 50, which was a deal cut back in the late '90s that sort of
redefined what impact was. My question is if it weren't for SB 50, would the
conclusion still be no impact.
Ms. Jansen: The specific CEQA threshold that we're trying to answer here is
not would schools in Palo Alto be impacted, but would there be the potential to have physical environmental impacts from the construction of new school
facilities. That's the set of thresholds that you're looking at in a public
services analysis typically.
Council Member Filseth: You're assuming that new schools would be
constructed.
Ms. Jansen: If you look at the threshold as it's articulated on Page 4.12-9,
that is the threshold that we're trying to answer. It would depend on a
conclusion about whether or not new schools needed to be constructed and
then thinking about where those schools would be located, etc., and how
many new schools there would need to be. Typically at this programmatic
level of analysis, as you can see in other sections, the conclusion is that at
this level, given that no specific school sites are being discussed, there's not
really enough information to conclude whether or not there would be an
environmental impact. The threshold under CEQA is relatively narrowly
focused here.
Council Member Filseth: Got it. You're looking at environmental impacts
from the actual physical construction of new schools.
Ms. Jansen: Exactly.
Council Member Filseth: I understand. Thanks very much.
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Mayor Burt: Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: I will be very brief. I go back to a comment that
Council Member DuBois made earlier. I'm hoping that we can bring back
Scenarios 5 and 6 for additional comments at Council in the nearer future
than longer term future. Scenarios 5 and 6 do not appear to be very
differentiated. If we're going to look at a range of options and identify
ultimately a preferred scenario, we need to be clearer in differentiating Scenarios 5 and 6, or I call them Alternative 5 and 6. A couple of comments
I'll make here on Table 5 on Packet Page 555. How convenient. It does
seem, as a member of the public commented, while this is a sustainability
measure for the EIR scenarios, it seems like the S/CAP is driving this while
the S/CAP itself is not yet defined, and a lot of the measures in the S/CAP
that we have seen are not tested. While hopeful, we don't know yet the
outcomes. Fourth box down under mobility, it says parking charge program
for existing workplaces with over 50 employees. That's part of the S/CAP
strategy. There's no reference there of what that can do. As we have seen
in other situations, it would also call for potentially a Citywide Residential
Preferential Parking (RPP), because it displaces parkers into other areas. I
have several other comments that are similar to that, just having to do with there's not much differentiation between "5" and "6." There also doesn't
seem to be much differentiation between commercial or among commercial
uses. Commercial also includes retail. I don't think we're looking at
converting retail to housing. I don't think this is what the Council intended.
In five of the six scenarios, it says remove constraints on addition of
accessory dwelling units. I don't think that was intended for all five
scenarios. I could go on; I won't. I hope that we can come back with
comments and suggestions for how to differentiate Scenarios 5 and 6,
because right now they seem to be very much aligned. It reduces our ability
to compare one approach versus another.
Mayor Burt: Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: I'll make an attempt at a Motion, which I emailed
David. This is what I said earlier. For the purposes of greater contrast
among the scenarios, for Scenario 5 we would under these tables add the
conditional use permit or another method to regulate employment densities.
We'd add the County expressway implementation and the CC(2) Floor to
Area Ratio (FAR) reductions. What I'm essentially doing, just to explain, is
really aligning "5" more with Scenario 2 and making it more of a contrast to
Scenario 6. That's on the tables from Page 553, 554, 555, which really
define the scenarios. Is there a second?
Mayor Burt: I will second it.
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MOTION: Council Member DuBois moved, seconded by Mayor Burt to add
the following assumptions to Scenario 5 for purposes of greater contrast
among scenarios:
A. Conditional Use Permit (CUP) or another method to regulate
employment densities; and
B. County Expressway Plan 2040 implementation; and
C. Community Commercial (2) sub-district (CC2) Floor Area Ratio (FAR) reductions near California Avenue.
Council Member DuBois: I don't think I need to speak to it very much.
Again, I was just looking at kind of the definitions of the scenarios. I think
those were places where "5" and "6" could be separated a little bit.
Mayor Burt: I'm just going to leave it at that. Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: I would strongly recommend that—while I
appreciate the Motion, this Motion itself could generate a lot of comment. I
appreciate the aspects of it, but I don't think at quarter of 11:00 P.M. when
we have another item pressing on us that we ought to undertake a Motion at
this hour on this. I strongly suggest and will move that the Scenario 5 and 6
will return to Council at the soonest possible date.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I'll second that.
SUBSTITUTE MOTION: Council Member Holman moved, seconded by Vice
Mayor Scharff to continue this Agenda Item to the soonest possible date.
Mayor Burt: I'm okay with that too.
Council Member DuBois: I'll withdraw the Motion. I think basically we're
talking about not getting back to this until after the summer break. I think
we're going to be impacting the schedule fairly significantly.
Mr. Keene: At the risk of talking out of my element here, whatever. We
sort of have two things going on. We have four scenarios that have been
the subject of the Draft EIR. The comment period is going to close on
June 8. Hopefully, whatever you do today could put that piece of this to
bed.
Vice Mayor Scharff: No. It reopens under our previous Motion.
Mr. Keene: You could close now, and you can then deal with directions or
whatever comments related to Scenarios 5 and 6 separately in a sense.
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Council Member DuBois: Which I think we're doing. The question is if we
don't do it tonight, we probably don't do it 'til August which would impact
the schedule.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I call the question. Let's vote.
CALL THE QUESTION: Vice Mayor Scharff moved, seconded by Mayor Burt
to call the question.
Mayor Burt: We have to first vote on calling the question. That passes 8-1 with Council Member Schmid abstaining.
CALL THE QUESTION PASSED: 8-1 Schmid no
Mayor Burt: Now vote on the Substitute Motion. That passes 9-0. That
concludes this item. Thank you all.
SUSTITUTE MOTION PASSED: 9-017. PUBLIC HEARING: Adoption of a
Mitigated Negative Declaration and Mitigation Monitoring and Reporting
Program, and Approval of a Site and Design Application to Demolish the
Existing Approximately 18,000 Square Foot Building and Construct a new
Approximately 62,000 Square Foot Building for an Automobile Dealership
Located at 1700 Embarcadero Road. The Application Includes Design
Enhancement Exception Request to Allow Deviation from the 10 Foot Build-
to-Line From Embarcadero Road and Bayshore Road. There is Also a Request to Apply the Automobile Dealership (AD) Zoning Overlay.
Environmental Assessment: An Initial Study and Mitigated Negative
Declaration was Circulated. Zoning District: CS (D) Service Commercial and
Site Design Review Combining District. The Planning and Transportation
Commission Recommended Approval.
Mayor Burt: Our next item is a Public Hearing on a Mitigated Negative
Declaration and mitigation monitoring and reporting program and approval
of a site and design application to demolish an existing building and erect a
new 62,000-square-foot building at 1700 Embarcadero Road. The
application includes a Design Enhancement Exception and also a request to
apply the auto dealership zoning overlay. There was an Initial Study and
Mitigated Negative Declaration that was circulated. The existing district is
the CS(D). Jonathan.
Jonathan Lait, Planning and Community Environment Assistant Director:
Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to introduce Sheldon Ah Sing; he's a contract
planner with M Group. He'll make the presentation this evening.
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Sheldon Ah Sing, Contract Planner: Thank you and good evening. The
Mayor did a great introduction, so I'll skip this slide, because I think you've
covered that. Just the location of the property; it's located at the
intersection of Embarcadero Road and Bayshore Road. The site is located
within the Baylands Master Plan and subject to the Baylands Design
Guidelines. It is the service commercial property with a site and design
combining zoning district. It's the only CS zoning district in the vicinity there. The other districts in the area include the research, office and limited
manufacturing zone as well as the two adjacent dealerships are zoned PC.
The site does include an 80-foot utility easement that has some restrictions.
That's along Bayshore Road, so there's some limited development that could
be done there in that area. That also includes planting limitations. Some of
the heights of surrounding buildings. The PC zones, the height limit there.
The Audi is 27 feet, and the Honda dealership is at 24 feet. The other
industrial properties are two stories, but they kind of go between 24 and 35
feet height. This property allows up to 50 feet. The project was the subject
of a number of public hearings including a Planning and Transportation
Commission meeting as well as four Architectural Review Board meetings.
Those are formal meetings, and there were a couple of other preliminary meetings before the Board. Some of the key issues there included some
height, how to deal with the corner intersection, some plantings along with
lighting, again a consistency with the Baylands Master Plan, aesthetics and
compatibility with the surrounding as well as the project was subject to a
Mitigated Negative Declaration. The plan is a bit of a unique type of
automobile dealership in that it does have integrated sales, service,
inventory and customer parking in one building. They really have a larger
kind of footprint of a building, but a smaller footprint devoted to onsite
parking. Some of the neighboring—your typical dealerships have a smaller
building with sales and maybe a single-story service, and then they have a
lot of parking devoted to inventory. The automobile dealership combining
district allows for a bonus of 0.2 FAR for showrooms beyond the base FAR.
For this project, they're taking advantage of that, about 16,000 square feet
versus the 20,000 that they would be allowed for. The four-story building
has large setbacks. Part of it is that they are asking for a deviation from the
build-to setback, which is what you get typically along El Camino Real. In
this case, it's probably not as appropriate. Along with that, you have that
utility easement, that 80-foot utility easement. They can't really get that
close to the roadway anyway. These elevations kind of depict the building
proposed and the surrounding. The building is horizontally designed. Again,
you have the 50-foot building that's proposed. Adjacent to it with the Audi,
it's at 27 feet. The other buildings in the area are between 35 and 30 feet in
height. The project does use muted colors as well as these are colors that
are appropriate for the Mercedes-Benz corporate design. The project does
include the one specific that is included in the Baylands Design Guidelines.
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As mentioned, the height is consistent with the CS district. The signs are
designed to be below the roof; those are consistent with the Baylands
Guidelines. This is another view of some of the other elevations of the site.
The landscaping is also appropriate for the surroundings and the
environment as well. The applicant did provide through the process some
detailed building perspectives. The massing of the building is helped by the
additional setbacks being proposed as well as some of the existing built features, such as the transmission tower that's at the corner. It tends to
take away from the building, but it's something that's just there. That tower
is about 90 feet in height. Some of the plantings that they would be able to
do. There was a lot of specific discussion there. In dealing with Pacific Gas
and Electric (PG&E), near the tower they can actually do a little taller
plantings, because the power lines there are higher from the ground than at
say in-between the property, where that's the lowest part underneath the
transmission lines to the floor. These are some of the building perspectives
from Embarcadero Road as well as Bayshore. You can see the Audi building
there. This is more of a rendering, not the actual building that's now in
place. It does represent what it would look like. What's also important is
the views from the Baylands. This photograph is taken from the trail that's in the Baylands, probably about 600 feet away from the site. You can see
that the existing trees—there's also a property in between the Baylands
Preserve and the subject property—would obscure the new building. The
rooftop lighting would also not be visible from this distance. Through the
Mitigated Negative Declaration process, there were significant impacts
identified to biological resources as well as transportation. A mitigation is
proposed for nesting birds and sensitive habitat from the onsite lighting.
The lighting would be reduced between the hours of 10:00 P.M. and 7:00
A.M. That's consistent with the adjacent Audi dealership. Also, a mitigation
for impact to the Embarcadero/Bayshore intersection by reconfiguring the
lanes and changing the signal timing there. With that, Staff recommends
that the Council adopt the Mitigated Negative Declaration and mitigation
monitoring and reporting program, introduce an ordinance adding the
automobile dealership combining district to the site, as well as approving the
site and design architectural review and approving the Design Enhancement
Exceptions. That concludes my presentation. Be happy to answer any
questions you may have. Thank you.
Mr. Lait: Mayor, if I may, I just want to note that Alex Lew, Vice Chair of
the ARB, is also in the audience this evening.
Mayor Burt: I want to return to the Council for technical questions. Vice
Mayor Scharff.
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Vice Mayor Scharff: Jeff Levinsky sent us in a bunch of questions. I wanted
Staff to address them. I don't know if you saw it. Maybe, Jeff, do you have
an extra copy to give Staff?
Council Member Berman: We didn't have it at places either.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I did have his email at place. I can give you my copy.
Mayor Burt: While Jonathan is looking that over, maybe we'll ...
Vice Mayor Scharff: Move on to other technical questions.
Mayor Burt: Yeah. Council Member Wolbach. I have the same concerns,
because those questions reflected some questions that I already had, but
they looked more researched than I had done. Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: Also relating to a letter that we got from the
public. We got a letter from the Audubon Society regarding a couple of
concerns of potential negative impacts on bird safety and health. The first
really just to lighting on the roof of the building and a hope for reduced
amount of lighting and changed style of lighting. The other relates to glass
and bird-safe design. I was just wondering if Staff wanted to weigh in on
either of those. I guess the technical question is what do we have to do
tonight as a Council to provide direction for those concerns to be addressed
in the project.
Mr. Ah Sing: Thank you. The plans do have pretty detailed schematics
about the lighting. The applicant is very flexible with the lighting controls.
The lights could go out at really any time. The condition of approval and
mitigation is at 10:00 P.M., but they could set that timer to go off much
sooner than that. With the bird film on the glazing, there's a condition that's
an optional condition, but the applicant has been advised and they are
amenable to adding that glazing to the building. They're here to address
those issues.
Council Member Wolbach: Just to clarify as a quick follow-up question.
Would it be possible for us this evening to make that optional into a
requirement for the glazing?
Mr. Ah Sing: Yes.
Council Member Wolbach: Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Are you ready to address those questions?
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Mr. Lait: I think Sheldon should spend a few minutes looking at it. They're
all questions related to floor area, so we can take a look at those.
Mayor Burt: I can say one of them is whether interior vehicle parking that's
not for customers or employees is supposed to be exempt from FAR. That
wasn't my memory. When I see his reference to our Muni Code, it confirms
what my recollection was. Is that the case?
Vice Mayor Scharff: I was sort of hoping to ...
Mayor Burt: I'm trying to help speed it along.
Mr. Lait: This is going to take us a few minutes to review it.
Mayor Burt: If it's not, then Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: I have the same question about the FAR issues.
When I was reviewing the plans, I had those same questions. Lighting
impacts, yes, there are sheets in the plans, but it's very hard—I've looked at
a lot of plans over the years, but I cannot tell the impact of lighting from
these plans. There's even kind of a psychedelic kind of drawing, but it
doesn't tell me what the scatter is of the lighting, nor does it tell me what
the intensity of the lighting is. The only reference to intensity that I found,
that I can understand as a layperson, is that it's less than what a typical car
dealership would have. Can Staff tell us how we can understand the lighting impacts?
Mr. Lait: I'll just buy a little air time here while Sheldon is taking a look at
the list of questions related to the floor area. I do know that the
Architectural Review Board did spend a considerable amount of time looking
at the lighting plan at the last meeting. In fact, it was one of the three
things that they focused on in detail. I might suggest—I don't have the plan
in front of me, but we can ask perhaps Vice Chair Lew, who did look at those
details, to respond to that. I could also—Sheldon could probably also
respond to it to, except I've got him tied up now looking at these questions
that we haven't seen until just moments ago.
Council Member Holman: I actually would like to hear from, through the
Mayor, Vice Chair Lew and also give him the opportunity to make any other
comments that he might like to make. It's also incumbent on the Council to
have that information so we can evaluate it in addition to the ARB.
James Keene, City Manager: If I just might add, just real quick. I know
we've had four or five public hearings on this item. First we've seen of this.
I just would put this out there. We've been here since 5:00 P.M. tonight.
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We could have even gotten this to our Staff here sooner, so we could be a
little bit better prepared for the Council. I'm just sort of saying there's a lot
of folks who deal with us routinely. I think we should have a little bit better
partnership between the Council, the Staff and you all to make sure at 11:00
P.M. we're not scrambling trying to respond to your questions.
Mayor Burt: The questions that ...
Mr. Keene: No, I'm not faulting your questions. I'm just saying the material that the Staff is looking at right now, they just got.
Mayor Burt: I will say that I'm concerned that this is material that's
basically in the Municipal Code and that I don't quite yet understand why it
wasn't part of the review process. I'll wait to hear the response.
Mr. Keene: I'm just saying—I know, but the earlier we get this, the better
prepared we can be for the public as a whole.
Mayor Burt: You wanted to hear from ...
Council Member Holman: I did, please.
Mayor Burt: About what again?
Council Member Holman: I'm sorry?
Mayor Burt: What did you want to hear from ...
Council Member Holman: About lighting and any other comments he'd care to make about the project.
Alexander Lew, Architectural Review Board Vice Chair: Alexander Lew, the
Vice Chair of the Architectural Review Board. On the lighting, my
understanding—I just did a quick double check on the lighting—is that there
isn't spillover to neighboring properties. The rooftop lighting has always
been a concern of the ARB. There are two pole-mounted fixtures on the
roof, but they're only 8 1/2 feet high. Typically a light fixture up on the
rooftop deck is going to be 15 feet or more, maybe up to 30 feet high.
Those are really relatively low compared to a typical parking garage. Around
the perimeter of the rooftop parking, there are additional fixtures, but
they're all under 45 inches high, so that's fairly low. They're wall-mounted
fixtures. They're not going to be casting up lights or you're not going to see
them from the ground, from grade.
Council Member Holman: Say that last piece again please.
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Mr. Lew: The wall-mounted fixtures, almost all of them are situated low,
say like on the parapet, shining down onto the parking deck. You're not
going to see them if you're around any of the neighboring streets. You're
not going to be able to look up and see a pole-mounted fixture, as you
would normally on a roof deck.
Council Member Holman: Thank you for that. Is there any other comments
you wanted to make about the project review or project concerns?
Mr. Lew: One more comment on the lighting. If you look at lighting levels
for automobile dealers, I've heard that it can be up to 30 foot candles.
Typically just for emergency lighting as required for buildings, we're looking
at usually one foot candle. They're proposal, I think, in the front was the
maximum of 10 foot candles. It's a lot less than the typical car dealer,
which is going to be in the 20-30 foot candles. They have lots of lighting
controls around the back. It's not like they're illuminating an entire site all
at a high level.
Council Member Holman: That's helpful. Thank you. It was kind of hard to
read.
Mr. Lew: I've never seen some of those ...
Council Member Holman: It's a complicated lighting sheets.
Mr. Lew: I've never seen lighting sheets quite like that before.
Council Member Holman: I hadn't either.
Mr. Lew: it was unusual. The Board did take four meetings to come to
consensus. I think the vote was 5-0, but I would say that there is still
concern amongst at least one or two of the Board Members that the building
is a larger scale than the neighbors. I think there's a sort of recognition that
there are setbacks, easements, and that the previous CS rezoning for the
hotel would have allowed a 50-foot high building. The neighboring ROLM
district has a lower, 35-foot height limit. They also do have the automobile
overlay, which would bump it up to 50 feet theoretically.
Council Member Holman: Thank you very much. Thank you for hanging in
and coming tonight.
Mayor Burt: Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: Two of my four questions have been asked,
including the one on FAR. I had a question about the signage. It looked like
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some of it was 34 feet long. I was just curious if that meets our Sign
Ordinance. There seemed to be a lot of signage.
Mr. Lait: The signs were a part of the package. I don't recall any sign
accommodations or adjustments being made. Any signs that doesn't comply
with the Sign Code would have to go back and get approval for an
adjustment.
Council Member DuBois: Is that a separate process we're not necessarily ...
Mr. Lait: There's an ARB process to go back and get approval for signs that
don't meet the sign standard.
Council Member DuBois: I'm sorry. The signs that are in these plans are
not considered?
Mr. Lait: While he's looking up the details, I'm just (inaudible) some.
Council Member DuBois: The other question, an easier one. The Staff
Report says they modified the plans to stay at 50 feet. The drawings we got
show it going up to 56 feet still. Are these just old drawings or does the
elevator shaft still going up to 56 feet?
Mr. Lait: No, I think there is a—it's not a car elevator. What is the structure
above the 50-foot?
Mr. Ah Sing: That's part of the equipment. There's exceptions in the Code to allow for the equipment portion of the elevator to go beyond the height
limit.
Council Member DuBois: Was it even higher before and then reduced? The
Staff Report referred to it being reduced around the elevator.
Mr. Ah Sing: Yes. You actually had access that went to the roof deck for
vehicles. There was the combination of the cab plus the equipment. They
brought that down. They're using a ramping system to get the cars to the
roof.
Council Member DuBois: I'm sorry. Were you looking up the sign stuff?
Mr. Ah Sing: The signs in our calculations met the requirements. Anything
that didn't meet the requirements would have to—if there was a deviation
requested, then they'd have to go through a separate process.
Council Member DuBois: Thank you.
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Mayor Burt: The City Attorney wanted to remind me that we should be
making disclosures on any ex parte communication on a quasi-judicial item.
If anybody has a disclosure to make. Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: I did speak with a couple of members of the public
on this project.
Mayor Burt: I spoke briefly with a representative of the applicant and didn't
receive any information that's not in the packet. I don't know if the Staff's still trying to digest this parking issue. Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: Just to be sure we heard clearly on your answer to
Council Member DuBois' question about the 50-foot limit. You are indicating
that the only thing that goes above the 50-foot limit is actually the elevator
shaft mechanism.
Mr. Ah Sing: Yes.
Council Member Kniss: Is that what you said?
Mr. Ah Sing: Yes.
Council Member Kniss: There is another suggestion made here. I don't
recall us doing it in the City at all. Maybe somebody can remind me we have
done it. It's under the letter from Shani Kleinhaus, which indicates that
there is a lights out program similar to San Francisco, Baltimore, Detroit and so forth. Is that something we have done before or have considered? It's
on her letter which came today actually.
Mr. Lait: I think I got that letter. I'm not aware of a program like that in
Palo Alto. I think the lighting is something that can be conditioned to meet
whatever standard the Council is interested in. It will be on a dimmable
switch. There is access to the roof. There is a certain amount of lighting
that's needed for safety and security reasons. They are permitted to
operate until 10:00 P.M. at least by the Code. If we're cutting the light out
at dusk, that could impact operations.
Council Member Kniss: Even as it says dusk to dawn, it also says 10:00
P.M. to 6:00 A.M., 11:00 P.M. to 5:00 A.M., 11:00 P.M. to dawn. It's really
not dusk to dawn. It really must just be a metaphor for turning the lights
down when it is closing time. I think this one would say turning the lights
off, but I would think—maybe you could find out a little more about it. You
could probably turn them down substantially so that it doesn't interfere with
any of the bird-friendly kinds of provisions we have made. I'm not sure how
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many birds are actually flying during that midnight hour. Maybe, Shani, you
could saying something.
Shani Kleinhaus: (inaudible)
Council Member Kniss: The migration. I think she said it. She's talking
about migration.
Mr. Lait: I think when the applicant has a chance to speak, you'll hear that
that's probably not an issue for them to dim the lights.
Council Member Kniss: That's one I'd like to see us follow up on. With that,
I'll wait to hear about the FAR, Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Burt: Is the Staff ready to respond in any way?
Mr. Lait: It sounds like we've got some partial information. You want to go
ahead and speak to what you know?
Mr. Ah Sing: (inaudible) Number 3, that was one of the kind of low-hanging
fruit that we could take. I think there the commenter is speaking to that on
the first floor there is a drive. This is people coming in probably from
Bayshore Road. They would park there, and then talk to a service attendant
inside the building. A service person would take that car into the building
and elevator up to the third floor for service. I think we had looked at that
as just your customer parking area; therefore, it was excluded from the FAR requirements.
Council Member Burt: Can you address the literal wording in the Municipal
Code that's cited there?
Mr. Lait: It talks about in nonresidential, multifamily exclusions for all these
zones, gross floor area shall not include the following: roofed arcades,
plazas, walkways, porches, breezeways, porticos, similar features, not
substantially enclosed by exterior walls and courts at or near street level.
Mayor Burt: No. We can jump forward to what Mr. Levinsky quoted. It
says that Muni Code Section 18.040.030(A)(7) includes as FAR permanently
roofed but either partially enclosed or unenclosed building features used for
sales, service, display, storage or similar uses.
Mr. Lait: I'll speak to that. The other section I was speaking to was in "B."
There's another section that's not included in the letter, that speaks about
areas that are excluded. Just to conclude that half sentence that I was in
the middle of, it says when accessible to the general public and not devoted
to sales, service, display, storage or similar uses. When we looked at the
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application and the plans that are before you tonight—the Council may have
a different perspective on this—this is an area where people are dropping off
their cars, and the cars are getting whisked away to the upper levels. The
service operation is taking place inside the building. You get out of your car;
you go into the building; you sit down at the desk; you have your exchange
with the sales person; and you take the shuttle or however you're getting to
whatever your place is. We did not consider this area, which is not substantially enclosed by exterior walls, to be considered a sales or service
area. You're dropping off your car, and you're going in to take care of your
sales activity. Again the Council may have a different perspective.
Vice Mayor Scharff: There's an exclusion, right?
Mr. Lait: That's the part I was reading, the exclusion for that area.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Mr. Levinsky left out the part about the exclusion.
Mr. Lait: I just don't see it in the letter.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Did you get a chance to look at—Number 3 takes care
of that. What about Number 1? Did you get a chance to look at that?
Mr. Ah Sing: I'm just checking with the applicant. As I mentioned in my
presentation, the 0.2 FAR represents 20,000 square feet. My understanding
was that the applicant was using 16,000 square feet. Is this letter is true—we can verify those things—that 4,000 square feet would be covered under
that 20,000.
Vice Mayor Scharff: He only used 16,000 out of the 4,000, so the rest of it
is there. (crosstalk)
Mr. Ah Sing: Right. That would be covered there. The other issue—
jumping around. Number 4 would be inaccessible loading area. There are
two loading berths that are identified on the project site plan. The other
loading berth is kind of close to the intersection of Embarcadero Road and
Bayshore Road. There's sufficient room there to put a loading berth if the
other one isn't deemed to be adequate circulation. You could have those
two be side by side. That's actually close to the delivery of the vehicles.
There's a bay of doors along Embarcadero Road, where the merchandise
would be loaded anyway. That's a potential spot for that.
Vice Mayor Scharff: It's a potential what?
Mr. Ah Sing: That's a potential spot for that other loading berth. You could
have side-by-side loading berths.
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Mayor Burt: (inaudible)
Vice Mayor Scharff: They could relocate it if that's a problem.
Mr. Ah Sing: That's true, yes.
Vice Mayor Scharff: You didn't view it as a problem in terms of the access?
Mr. Ah Sing: Our transportation team had looked at that. There's potential
that it could be a spot that may not be as accessible.
Mr. Lait: There's different kinds of loading activities that take place. The large car carriers is one, but there's also a parts department here. Those
parts deliveries take place in all kinds of different-size vehicles. The
Transportation Department's review seemed that it was consistent with the
site orientation and site circulation.
Vice Mayor Scharff: What you're saying is, "We did look at it, and we found
it to be adequate."
Mr. Lait: Yes.
Vice Mayor Scharff: I guess the only other question on this—because "5" is
more of a comment than a concern, more of a comment than would be
Number 2, the car storage issue.
Mr. Lait: Correct.
Vice Mayor Scharff: On the car storage issue, you're going to get back to us on that. You're going to take a look at it or do you need more time?
Mr. Ah Sing: A little more time on that, if I can.
Vice Mayor Scharff: That's fine.
Mr. Ah Sing: Thank you.
Vice Mayor Scharff: Maybe we can move on to regular questions if no one
else has technical questions.
Council Member Kniss: (inaudible)
Mayor Burt: (inaudible)
Council Member Kniss: Could I just finish my (crosstalk) ...
Mayor Burt: Yes, go ahead.
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Council Member Kniss: ... ask now that we're back to it.
Mayor Burt: You need your mike.
Council Member Kniss: Thank you. Under 50-foot high building is too large
for the Baylands, I think you read off at the very beginning the height of a
number of the other buildings. I was out there today, and it looks to me as
though several of them are 30 feet or higher.
Mr. Ah Sing: The highest building out there probably wouldn't be more than 35 feet, which the zoning for the ROLM allows up to 35 feet. Some of the
other buildings in the area are between 25 and 30 feet in height.
Council Member Kniss: What height is the Audi building, which is right next
door?
Mr. Ah Sing: That's 27 1/2 feet.
Council Member Kniss: The one that's mostly glass?
Mr. Ah Sing: Yes.
Council Member Kniss: This is bigger than the surrounding buildings.
Thanks.
Mayor Burt: Let's move on to hearing from members of the public. Our first
speaker is Hamilton Hitchings, to be followed by Shani Kleinhaus. Welcome.
Public Hearing opened at 11:25 P.M.
Hamilton Hitchings: Thanks for hanging in there. I'm Hamilton Hitchings.
I'm a member of the CAC; these are my own comments. I happen to live
nearby. I'm on the other side of 101 from this. I do pass it on a regular
basis. I feel putting a dealership in this particular location is compatible with
the nearby businesses and helpful to City tax revenue. Request for further
setbacks should be looked upon favorably and supported. However, I feel
that 50 feet is too tall for the surrounding area and for the Baylands. I'd like
to see it conform to a 35-foot height limit and also ensure that the windows
are bird safe. The last question I have is how does this project impact our
goal for 80/30? I don't have an answer. Stepping back, I want to thank the
City Council for recently improving, not approving but improving, a number
of projects, specifically in four key areas of resident concern, traffic, parking,
housing and aesthetics. For projects such as Olive Garden replacement,
Shady Lane and 425 Page Mill. However, why is the City Council doing all
the heavy lifting? Because the Architectural Review Board and the Planning
and Transportation Commission (PTC) are not. Please help balance these
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committees with members who can effectively address these four areas
along with other resident concerns. Thanks a lot.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Shani Kleinhaus to be followed by Jeff Levinsky.
Shani Kleinhaus: Thank you. I'll speak for Audubon first, and then I want to
say something as a resident. For Audubon, I thank you for paying attention
to our letter. I thank you for considering the lighting issues. The birds do
fly over the building, and they do fly at night. Migratory birds fly at night, and that's when millions of birds fly over that area. That's for Audubon.
Thank you for actually requiring that they address the lighting and the glass
building issues. As a resident, I would very much like you to limit the height
to 35 feet in that area. That is the right thing to do. The hotel was an
exception. Now we have a car dealership. Aesthetically, I find it a little
offensive, and I'm also worried about what comes next. The next building
will be an all-glass building that will be 50 feet or more. There already may
be a building like that there. I think that when we're looking at 80 percent
reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, this doesn't seem to compatible with
that goal, especially with elevators taking cars up and down and all that It
doesn't seem to be a very sustainable type of building. I say that as a
resident. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Jeff Levinsky to be followed by herb Borock.
Jeff Levinsky: Good evening, Mayor Burt and Council Members. Thank you
for giving attention to the letter that we sent in. I'm just going to try to use
the moments I have to clarify some issues that came up about that already.
On item Number 1, although it is correct that they're not using all of the
showroom exemption, the problem is that the areas that they're using the
showroom exemption for, many of them don't deserve it, don't allow for it.
We quote the law here, all other uses associated with the automobile
dealership including sales office and sales of related merchandise are not
eligible. The impact of that is if they're not eligible for the showroom
exemption, they then have to fit in the 0.4 FAR for the regular building itself,
and they don't. That building only has like 500 square feet left. If you take
our table of almost 4,000 square feet, and you move that over from the 0.2
FAR over to the 0.4 FAR part, it's over the FAR. Some of these areas are
almost amusing that they tried to pass them off as showroom here. The
boutique is explicitly—Mercedes-Benz sells things like dishes for your pet,
and they sell sippy cups. It's kind of amazing. That related merchandise is
explicitly by the Municipal Code not allowed for the showroom exemption. It
has to count in the regular 0.4 FAR, and that's what would put it over. You
can go through on—we listed them there explicitly. I think Mayor Burt has
already brought up the issue about the car storage should not be exempt
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from FAR. Let me explain to help out the issue on Number 3 about the
service drive. Mr. Lait is exactly right that there is an exemption in the Code
if the area isn't being used for things like service, if it's just general covered
area. We quoted the rule that if it is being used for service, then it counts
as FAR. That's the problem, because that area would again put the building
over its allowed total FAR. There's a phrase in the law that says if it's not
being used exclusively, it doesn't count. There's another phrase that we quote, if it is being used exclusively, it does count. We just quoted the one
that says it does count as, I think, sufficient for this. I didn't hear all of the
comments about the loading area, but I just don't see how the car wash
works if somebody's parked in the loading area there. I don't think the
circulation there is right. We mentioned the 50-foot height limit with other
people as being more than—by the way, one last comment until the buzzer
gets me. You might ask why is a building that's 0.6 FAR so tall. It's a four-
story building. How do you get such a big building? The answer is you don't
count it all in FAR.
Mayor Burt: Herb Borock to be followed by Bill Garrett.
Herb Borock: Mayor Burt and Council Members. The action before you is
whether to adopt a Mitigated Negative Declaration and to approve a site and design application. To me, the two key pieces of information that should be
available to the public to be able to participate in this evening's discussion of
the item are the Mitigated Negative Declaration and the plans. You received
a copy of the Mitigated Negative Declaration in this week's packet that you
received, I guess, on Thursday. The Clerk has provided, as is the custom
and requirement or law, copies of what you receive, because that's required
under the Government Code so the public can be seeing the same things
that you see. In that packet compilation that you received for this meeting
with the packet for next week's meeting, it's missing the Mitigated Negative
Declaration. I inquired as to why that was the case, and it was because
Staff only provided nine copies. They didn't provide a copy for the public to
have at the meeting. There's certainly no copies of the plans for the public
to see to be able to participate. In the absence of those things, I think the
appropriate thing to do would be to continue this to a meeting when the law
is obeyed and there is at least a copy for reference. Not one that the public
can take away, but at least a copy for reference for anyone who wants to
participate to be able to review the Mitigated Negative Declaration and the
plans that you have before you. In the absence of having that information
and not being able to effectively participate on the item specifics, I would
refer you back to, I believe it was last week's meeting when you were
discussing sea level rise. This idea that this part of town, which would be
subjected to sea level rise inundation and would be affecting properties, is a
place to have fiscalization of land use and justifying a project on the basis of
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how much money it brings in when those types of projects would then be
coming and expecting it would be the City rather than the applicant in this
case to mitigate against sea level rise just doesn’t make any sense. That's
an overall thing. That may be years away. As far as following the process
to allow the public to participate in a meeting to see the same pieces of
information that you see on a timely basis, which means during the meeting.
I think that requires a continuance. Thank you.
Mayor Burt: Our next speaker is Bill Garrett, to be followed by our final
speaker, Stephanie Munoz.
Bill Garrett: Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council Members. My name is Bill
Garrett. I'm a partner with Hanna and Van Atta here in town. We represent
the applicant, Fletcher Jones. I just want to point out that having literally
just received Mr. Levinsky's several questions and issues at roughly 11:00
P.M. this evening, I heard every point except really one refuted in the span
of about a 5 or 10 or 15-minute review by the Planning Director, Planning
Manager and by Sheldon. I think that's significant. I'd like to defer and
hear from them as to the FAR issue that they're currently working on and
studying at the moment. I want to point out that the applicant has worked
extremely hard here to accommodate its prospective business in the town of Palo Alto and provide the City of Palo Alto with $1 million roughly in sales
taxes per year. It's significant that this site, the old Ming's Restaurant site,
is smaller than, I think, every other dealership within the Fletcher Jones
dealership group by a factor of four or five. They've worked very hard to not
go out vertically on the property, because the property has certain
limitations. Instead, to go up as far as they can horizontally, and they've
reduced it over the course of four or five ARB meetings. I would like to
suggest that in this instance we trust Staff, we do what's right for the
community of Palo Alto, and approve this project with all of the various
approvals that are before you tonight.
Mayor Burt: The next speaker is Stephanie Munoz. We have a late card;
I'm going to allow it to be used by Kirsten Cessna.
Stephanie Munoz: Good evening, Mayor Burt and Council Members. I'm
really surprised that there has been less interest by the press and by the
community about this project, which seems to me to be outstandingly
anomalous in the use, the appearance and the historical preservation of
everything that I have ever heard this Council talk up and everything that
the other committees in the town have done to make Palo Alto into a certain
kind of city. Ming's has been an iconic business, one of the oldest
businesses in town. The Ming's that's now being torn down is the new
Ming's. The old Ming's was up on El Camino, and it wasn't a particularly
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distinguished building. The new Ming's is and, I think, was in a way
symbolic of might we say racial harmony. The Chinese were brought to the
United States as coolies. The word is still in the language. It's not a
pejorative term, but it means a person who is an exploited workforce, the
working class of the working class. Because of the food of that particular
culture, which was so appealing and so magnificent, the whole race of
Chinese has gone from being exploited to being aristocrats, to being like Larry Chu [phonetic]. That beautiful building, that roof is one of the
outstanding architectural monuments in Palo Alto, indeed the whole
Peninsula. It's just beautiful, and it's really a shame to get rid of it. The
other thing is where are the houses. Where's the housing? Just a couple of
weeks ago, we were here for hours and hours. It seemed to me we were
almost getting to the point where somebody said if we're going to go up and
we're going to raze the whole town, let it at least be for housing. I thought I
heard Karen Holman almost say that but didn't quite. Here there's a
building and there's no housing. All this extra space is essentially being
used for a warehouse, like a service station. Just the most mundane,
common, impossible. Thanks.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. Our next speaker is Kirsten Cessna, final speaker.
Kirsten Cessna: Good evening, Mayor Burt and City Council Members.
Thank you so much for listening to me tonight. I'm Kirsten Cessna with
Gensler; we're the architects on this project. I just wanted to try and help
clarify some of the process that we've gone through with the City. We've
been working with the Planning Department and have worked with the ARB
on this project, specifically at their guidance on understanding the FAR and
where it's allowed and where it's not. Some of the items that have been
brought up today, I just want to help clarify. The new car delivery, that is
really more of a showroom space. It's where vehicles can be displayed and
then can be released to the customers. Also, the finance area that is noted
on the plans in your packets as part of the showroom FAR is actually lounge
space. The circulation areas noted are also lounge areas and then just
circulation through that showroom. We just want to emphasize the
challenges that the ARB has presented to us and their guidance throughout
this process in understanding the City's FAR requirement and the Planning
Department's guidance as well. We really looked to them for their guidance
in understanding the FAR and applying it appropriately. We then just look to
you all to continue that guidance. Appreciate your time. Thank you.
Public Hearing closed at 11:42 P.M.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. We'll return to the Council. Staff, in addition to
the open question on the parking, can you readdress this issue on the
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showroom and whatever amount of it may not be showroom and whether it
should be counted against the 0.4 FAR as opposed to the question of
whether it is exceeding the 0.2 for a showroom, which is what you had
answered?
Mr. Lait: We just heard a moment ago that the floor plan is mislabeled here.
I don't know if you've got the plans in front of you or not, but there's an
area that is ...
Mayor Burt: Which page?
Mr. Lait: This is Page PR00.11. I'll draw your attention first to the legend in
the upper left. The lighter shade area is assignable floor area, and then the
darker shade is the showroom area. As you look toward the right side,
there's an area marked finance, which appears to be misplaced and ought to
be in the rooms to the north of that. The lounge is right immediately
adjacent to the showroom area. There's a boutique. Again, that looks like a
lounge area. I'm not sure what exactly is involved in there. These plans
have evolved over the 9 or 10 months that we've been processing them. I
have not seen this particular layout. I would say if it was a finance area,
then that should be counted as floor area. If there's elements related to the
sales office or the sale of related merchandise, I agree with the commenter that that ought to be counted as floor area. I don't think that the plans—this
section of the Code also includes a reference that Director has the—there's
some latitude there in how this space is evaluated. There's some flexibility
in how the Council wants to look at this. If we want to take a hard-line look
and carve out these areas, we certainly can. There was no Director
modification granted as part of our review of the project. I do think there's
some mislabeled plans here. I do think if this does go forward, there should
be a condition imposed that ensures that the area that's dedicated to
showroom is actually showroom area as defined in the Code. I don't think
the applicant—they can respond—would have a problem complying with the
requirements of that provisions. That's number one. Number two, the
commenter speaks to the issue of some area not counting toward the plans.
If you go to the next page, you'll see that—it's PR00.12, the next page of
your plans. You'll see a large portion of that area is white, meaning it's not
assignable floor area. This is the area where if you were to take your car to
be serviced, they would park your car in this portion of the building. This is
an extension of customer parking as we see it. Now, the Council may see it
differently. You take your car to get serviced; that car goes to a parking
space. That's the space inside the building where that car is going. That's
repeated again on the following page, where a portion of that next floor plan
is shown as white. This is again where service vehicles would be parked.
There's a portion of that same floor plan that's shaded. This is area that is
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counted toward floor area and serves as the service bays and other features
like that. That's the rationale behind that. Certainly welcome the Council's
perspective on that. Item Number 3 on the letter, not counting the covered
service drive as floor area. We spoke about this. I would reiterate, because
it's awkwardly written in the Code. The Section (A)(7) that is referenced
here says that you do have to count it toward floor area if this space is being
used for sales, service, display, storage or similar uses. It is not counted if it is not doing those things. What we have reported is that we don't consider
that to be qualifying under any of those standards. We see this like a
temporary parking space. Again, Council can...
Mayor Burt: Jonathan, can you look at page PR00.01? There's the parking
summary. The middle block has a series of areas that refer to automobile
storage on the ground floor, the second floor, the third floor and the fourth
floor. When our Code says it's supposed to be included in the FAR if it is—
where am I? Refers to required parking of employees and visiting
customers. I don't know if that's in quotations or not. I can't tell.
Mr. Lait: I could say that on that site plan that you're looking at, if you see
the colored version of the plan and there's some bluish spaces, those are
display vehicles. That's storage. That's outside, so we're not counting that area. Elsewhere in the building if there is storage area, that would have to
count toward FAR except for on the roof, which is not enclosed. We would
not count the storage area on the roof.
Mayor Burt: But the interior storage, did we count that against FAR? It says
on the ground floor, the second, all it says is all not applicable.
Mr. Lait: On the ground floor, it's on the exterior perimeter of the site.
Mayor Burt: Are you sure?
Mr. Lait: The first line is site, vehicle display, five spaces. Where's that? As
far as parking requirements, you're looking at the parking requirement or
the parking ...
Mayor Burt: Parking summary. The middle block on that Page 1.
Mr. Ah Sing: The parking summary is where the applicant is describing what
their parking requirement is per site, ground floor, second floor, third floor
and so forth. That's what they're trying to describe in that table, less the
parking required. What's provided is on a different table below.
Mayor Burt: The customer—the question, I guess, is when we say that the
exemption for the FAR for parking for employees and visiting customers, I
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don't know if the visiting customers is literally from our Code or if that's
Mr. Levinsky's.
Mr. Lait: Where are you in the letter, if I can get that clarification?
Mayor Burt: At the bottom of the second page, under "2.3."
Mr. Lait: That section reads as it's quoted here. Parking facilities accessory
to a permitted or conditional use and located on the same site. That's the
exemption. You don't count those areas toward floor area.
Mayor Burt: That's basically employee and visiting customers, right?
Mr. Lait: No. In the letter, the last half of that sentence is not in the Code.
Mayor Burt: What does the Code say?
Mr. Lait: There's Subsection B, and this is (B)(1) that reads after it. "B"
says nonresidential, multifamily exclusions for all zones, zoning districts
other than a few that are not applicable here. Gross floor area shall not
include the following. One, parking facilities accessory to a permitted or
conditional use and located on the same floor. Two, it goes on to talk about
roofed arcades, which is the one that we went through earlier. There's
nothing in here about visitor or employee parking that I'm seeing.
Mayor Burt: That's the Code section he cites?
Mr. Lait: That's the same Code section. I'm looking at 18.04.030. I think it's definition 65(B)(1). Is that what he's got?
Mayor Burt: Yeah.
Mr. Lait: That's from the Municipal Code.
Mayor Burt: I've never encountered that we exempted parking that was for
vehicular storage or parking that is for service from FAR.
Mr. Lait: What we have here is we're counting the service bay area, but
what is not counted is the cars waiting to be serviced.
Mayor Burt: What about cars that are storage for sale, not on the showroom
floor?
Mr. Lait: Those do count toward floor area.
Mayor Burt: They are?
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Mr. Lait: Yes. Except if it's on the roof, where some of it is, we would not
count the roof area.
Mayor Burt: Service bays you're not counting. You're saying that's
exempted floor area?
Mr. Lait: Service bays do count. The bays count toward floor area, but the
parking—I bring my car there; I leave my car; the porter takes the car to a
parking space which is essentially is me driving there and parking the car. We're not counting that toward floor area.
Mayor Burt: I see. How much square footage is in that category?
Mr. Lait: We'll take a look and get that for you. For visual reference, you
can see it on PR00.11.
Mayor Burt: Point which one?
Mr. Lait: Point 11, sheet 11. Actually it's Sheet 12.
Mayor Burt: That's a different ...
Mr. Lait: Sheet 12 will show you visually.
Mayor Burt: Eleven is the ground floor, right?
Mr. Lait: Yeah. If go to the next page, on 12, you'll see a substantial
portion of the building is not counted toward floor area there.
Mayor Burt: You're saying that's customer/employee parking. That's basically—I don't know if that's ...
Mr. Lait: Our Code doesn't distinguish between employee—it's a blended
parking standard for the site. It's anticipated that that includes some
element of customer parking, some element of employee parking.
Mayor Burt: How many spaces are we talking about as customer parking?
Is 14, is that—that's the rooftop. One of the baffling things to me about this
project was we have a maximum of 0.6 FAR. That's if all of this showroom
exemption is actually showroom exemption. Yet, we're a 50-foot building.
That's a 0.6 FAR needing a 50-foot building basically for floors. How does
that add up? A lot of it seems to be about this parking. Basically, we've
somehow interpreted—I just have a question whether some of this is new
car storage. There was a reference by the—I don't know if it was in the
Planning Commission discussions or Staff Report. Maybe it was the Planning
Commission discussion about the dealer saying it would be a hardship to be
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storing their inventory of cars offsite over in Fremont. They were storing
them onsite. Where is the storage? Is it just the rooftop? Is that what
they're saying? The new car storage.
Mr. Ah Sing: Those plans haven't really been vetted out completely, but the
applicant can describe a little further what their operations will be like. What
they've submitted to us is that the rooftop and some onsite at the ground
level would be for their inventory.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: Actually I'll hold off on my questions for now.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: I appreciate the line of questioning from Council
Member Burt. I also have the same question, same query and same
concerns. A question for Staff is—I guess this goes to findings. I'm sitting
here having a confluence of feelings about this. As anybody knows that
watches my comments over the years, it's like I'm really wanting Code
compliance, and I do want Code compliance. I will not deviate from that this
evening. At the same time, I think what one of the struggles is this evening
is that we have an artifact of zoning, CS, that in my opinion never should
have happened for a hotel that didn't happen. Even that zoning should never have happened. Again in my opinion, this is spot zoning. It should
have been a PC for the hotel, and then we would have greater control for
this project as the automobile dealerships are also PCs. I'm having empathy
for the applicant on this, which will not cause me to not carry out my
responsibilities as a Council Member. I'm having empathy for that. I'm
having a hard time understanding how the findings can be made that this
building is compatible and satisfies the context-based design criteria when
there are statements in the Staff Report that—and statements made tonight
about how the tallest building is 35 feet and the building next door is 27 or
27 1/2 feet. If you look at the context and the plans, I just don't
understand—I mean, we've had conversation many times at the Council
level that zoning isn't up to, not an assured or guaranteed right. I guess
even though CS allows up to 50 feet, why are we granting 50 feet—I guess
because somehow or other it was determined that it was satisfying the
findings. I'm finding that as not being the case. Help me understand how
the Staff and other bodies got to this satisfying the findings of context-based
design.
Mr. Lait: Thank you, Council Member Holman. The findings, Staff has those
laid out in the Record of Land Use Action, which I think is Attachment A to
the Staff Report. There's a number of things that come into play here. One
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is we're trying to—there's some other dealerships in the area. From a land
use perspective, it seems like a reasonable site for an additional dealership.
I think if you were to ask the applicant the—I think that the site as it is now
is—I think their preference would be for even a larger site. I think there are
some constraints with this location even with the additional ...
Council Member Holman: I'm going to interrupt just for a second here. I
don't disagree, because there are other auto dealerships in this immediate vicinity, that it's a bad location for a dealership. Do I think dealerships really
belong on East Bayshore? No, but there are some so this would be
consistent with that. I'm not talking uses; I'm using building compatibility
satisfying the context-based design criteria.
Mr. Lait: Right. To continue, I think that when we're looking at those
findings or those criteria, this particular site—I mean, I think you said it.
This is an anomaly in terms of the zoning. It allows for a greater height
than the adjacent properties. It will be the tallest building out there, in that
area. I think that the applicant and the Architectural Review Board spent a
fair amount of time on this as well. This went to an unprecedented four
meetings with the Architectural Review Board. The Council knows that it's a
three-rule standard that we have, but the Architectural Review Board wanted to take another meeting with that. There have been efforts to try to
accomplish what the applicant is attempting to do here, but also do it in a
way that is appropriate and compatible with the neighborhood. There is
the—I don't know—80, 90-foot tall transmission wires that run across the
property and along the street. The applicant's proposing some trees within
that area. The Architectural Review Board talked a lot about landscaping,
the materials that were selected. This is a challenge when you have an auto
dealership with a manufacturer with a very specific branding standard. How
that fits in with the Baylands was a difficult challenge point. The Design
Enhancement Exception, pushing the building back away from the street so
it doesn't dominate Embarcadero and Bayshore, we recognize that this is a
scenic route. The Embarcadero area is as an entrance to the Baylands. I
think it's how the building was sited, the materials that were used, the
landscaping that's being proposed, these are all factors that went into
assessing compatibility with the neighborhood. Again, I would refer you to
the Record of Land Use Action for the draft context-based design standards.
Council Member Holman: Yes, I have read through those and referenced
them. I just wasn't sold. We can have a difference of opinion about that. I
think what we're addressing here yet again is—I'll try not to take too long at
this, but maybe help get us to some conclusion. I think what we're
addressing here yet again—we'll put the FAR issues aside. I think what
we're addressing here yet again is the issue that we have confronted many
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times on this dais. The ARB struggled with this as well. FAR is an up to, not
a guaranteed max. What often is used as a justification for 50 feet or a
maximum FAR is because if the property next door with the same zoning
were to redevelop, it could redevelop to that height and that FAR. I don't
buy that either, because—I won't go into that. In this situation, we don't
have even close to that situation. I'm finding it a very hard sell. Quickly I'll
go through some of the things that are not addressed in the Record of Land Use Action, unless I totally overlooked them. You mentioned the scenic
corridor, that isn't mentioned at all. It isn't even mentioned in the Staff
Report. I didn't get through all of the ARB Minutes, so maybe it was there.
The Baylands master plant list in terms of landscape design is not mentioned
here at all. In the Record of Land Use Action, the consistency with the
Baylands Master Plan is not mentioned. Hang on a second. This is Number
7 actually on Packet Page 575. Large sites of one acre shall be designed so
that street, block and building patterns are consistent with those of the
surrounding neighborhood. This finding can be made in the affirmative in
that the design of the facade, landscape design is consistent with the
surrounding development. It's not. It's just not. It's not compatible. The
conditions of approval—going through without numbering all of these. On Number 5 on 575 talks about the planning arborist, again no reference to
the Baylands master plant list. Same thing on the next page, landscape,
urban forest and Director of Planning find—but what about the rest of it?
Number 13 on 577 talks about all exterior lighting shall be shielded, directed
downward and designed to minimize light spillage beyond the property line.
Board Member Lew is here saying that there would not be spillage beyond
the property line. Yet, this seems to allow for spillage beyond the property
line. I was concerned when I read this too, because "15" on the top of Page
578 is a mitigation measure for the transportation. Don't know how other
Council Members will feel about this. There are mitigation measures at the
intersection of East Bayshore and Embarcadero Road. We all know there are
problems there. I'm not necessarily confident that what's being proposed
here is the best solution there or if it's considered in the larger context of
what other impacts it might actually create going north on East Bayshore.
Also, there's nothing that indicates what the fair share of the applicant is.
We're just kind of like agreeing to something without knowing what we're
agreeing to. It seems like for us to make responsible and informed
decisions—I do apologize. I'm sure it must feel not so good sitting there.
That's not the intention. It is just really to try to get some things on the
table that I think aren't addressed and need to be addressed in this and
future projects. You've heard those comments before. There's also about
dewatering on Packet Page 581. There seem to be inconsistent comments
here about dewatering plans and not requiring one, but then getting
permits. I just find that there are so many issues with this project, that I
think we ought to send it back to the drawing board, quite seriously. Again,
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that's not even addressing the FAR issues, which I still have a concern with.
I think Mayor Burt is hitting the nail on the head. I look at how many
parking places are not counted here. Usually when people get their cars
serviced, they make an appointment, and they go pick it up. Some people
leave their car there all day. There are a lot of parking places here
dedicated to what now is being said are service parking places for the
service on the third floor. I will stop there. As you can hear, I have myriad concerns about this project.
Mayor Burt: Council Member DuBois.
Council Member DuBois: First of all, I think some people in the public
mentioned housing. I don't think this is the place for housing. We did talk
about sea level rise. There's no residential facilities out there. It looks like
the first floor's raised up 10 feet to be above floodplain. Is that
contributing—I mean, basically it's three floors with a roof to get to 50 feet.
Part of it is that elevated ground floor?
Mr. Ah Sing: The height is taken from the finished floor. The site's being
raised up. The grade is being raised up.
Council Member DuBois: I would be in favor of requiring a bird-safe
building. It sounded like that was possible. Rather than making it optional, to make that mandatory. I'd support that change. I think you guys know
I'm not necessarily the most pro development member on Council, but I
actually find this building a reasonable use in a reasonable location. I know
it's near the Baylands, but I find it's shielded by the buildings next to it and
the trees. I wouldn't support this building if it was further into the Baylands,
if it was down Bayshore or down Embarcadero. In this case, I find a lot of
things to like about the project. I think, Jonathan, you summarized a lot of
them. They are asking for extra setback. They are keeping the trees along
the back property line, the muted colors. I really appreciate the evolution of
the design. The fact that it's not an all glass building helps quite a bit as
well. I would support it with the change of requiring a bird-safe design
instead of making that optional. Motion. I would approve the Staff
recommendation with that change ...
Vice Mayor Scharff: Second.
Council Member DuBois: ... to a bird-safe building design be made
mandatory.
MOTION: Council Member DuBois moved, seconded by Vice Mayor Scharff
to:
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A. Adopt a Mitigated Negative Declaration and Mitigation Monitoring and
Reporting Program; and
B. Adopt an Ordinance adding the Automobile Dealership (AD) combining
district to the subject property; and
C. Approve an application for a Site and Design and Architectural Review
for the construction of a new automobile dealership; and
D. Approve an application for a Design Enhancement Exception for deviation from the ‘build-to’ setback along Embarcadero and Bayshore
Roads; and
E. Require the building be bird safe.
Council Member Kniss: (inaudible)
Mayor Burt: Did you want to speak further to your Motion? Vice Mayor
Scharff, your second?
Vice Mayor Scharff: I did want to speak to it. I actually thought the Staff
Report was really good. I was listening to Council Member Holman's
comments. As she was making the comments, I was looking in the Staff
Report for answers. I first of all noticed that on Page 7, Packet Page 564,
we talked about the Baylands Site Assessment and Design Guidelines, how
they met that. The Baylands General Design Principles, I won't go through it all. It then talked about the scenic corridor. Below that it talked about
views from the scenic corridor. We also talked about if—where did I see it?
Somewhere in the Staff Report, it talks about how by pushing the building
back from Embarcadero, we mitigate the height. Somewhere else it says if
you look at it from somewhere—I guess it was down the (inaudible). When
it talked about the ARB stuff, I actually thought it was much more articulate
than what I'm saying at midnight. I thought the Staff Report really
identified the height issue and talked about how it's been mitigated
according to that. That was really good. I think the other thing is it's—the
ARB did a good job by going through it by four. I think the building got
better and better. I'm not going to repeat the comments of Council Member
DuBois, but I agree with what he said on that. I also think that it's next to
the Honda and Audi dealership. When you create these auto rows, you
strengthen all the dealerships in town. If we don't approve this, we weaken
the dealerships in town. If you lose one, you're likely—you'll be down to one
dealership. You'd probably lose all of them. Auto dealerships pay $1 million
a year for each of them. I don't know what the other two are, but if it just
roughly was, that's a significant amount of money coming into the City. I
think it's important to think about this in a holistic way and say to ourselves
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on balance there's some good things and some bad things with every
development project. On balance, I think this one meets the requirements
of something that we should approve.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: I think this has actually been a good discussion
tonight, an extensive discussion. The only concern I have about this and
given that the zoning was changed before—even though I know, Karen, you've spoken of it as spot zoning. This applicant went into this site with the
full awareness of it having a 50-foot height limit. I know that had been
decided some time ago for a different purpose. It was there and it did exist.
I'm pleased to hear the special compensation or the special types of interest
that were taken in the birds and in the lighting and so forth. I really find
that very appealing. The setbacks, terrific. I was out there today and spent
some time there. I thought I'm not quite sure what the Ming's setback is,
but that's also pretty substantial. Color, good color for the Baylands. I
appreciate that it was made to look as though it would hopefully blend. The
ARB certainly did yeoman's work four times, long notes. You guys did a very
good job. Thank you. I think you must have put hours and hours into that.
Lastly and probably the most important is that we do need appropriate places for our commercial buildings. I can't think of a better place for a
commercial building, given that we certainly wouldn't put housing there. I
can't imagine putting any kind of other type of intensive use that would
involve needing transportation or would have safety issues and so forth. For
that reason, I'm in favor of the motion. Thanks.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: Yes. I'll be upfront here. I won't be supporting
the motion, but I do wonder if—you know what? I'm going to hold off. I'm
going to see if it's going to pass or not, then I may offer some amendments.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Filseth.
Council Member Filseth: I concur with what's been said about the use of this
space. It's a good place to put an auto dealership. I actually think an auto
dealership is one of the few actually really good uses for this space. As it's
been said before, I don't think it's a good space for housing. Olive Garden's
a better space for housing. All of that makes a lot of sense to me. I think
what we're looking at then is not the use but the building. The thing I'm
grappling with is did it meet Code as defined. I think a couple of people said
why can it be 50 feet. With this FAR and that lot space, why can it be 50
feet? The answer is, I think, the FAR is sort of designed to sort of say you
can't put a building this big on a piece of land that big. That's basically what
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the FAR is for. That one, I grapple with. As far as the parking is concerned,
I grant that it's sort of hard to tell exactly from the Code, but customer
parking is—I think of it as I go to the grocery store. I park my car in the
parking lot. I go inside and I buy some groceries and I come home. As
opposed to I take my car there and they take it inside. It's customer
parking until they start working on it. Once they start working on it, it's
actually service and so forth. That seems very hard for me. That's what I'm struggling with. I like the use. I like the appropriateness. I'm concerned
about the building.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: I'd like to offer a friendly amendment. "E," I'd
like to recommend that we change that to "require that the building be bird
safe in its structure and that the applicant work with Staff and the Audubon
Society to minimize lighting impacts on wildlife." Yeah, lighting impacts on
wildlife.
Council Member DuBois: I'm actually going to say no to that, because I did
have the question about lighting. I thought our ARB Commissioner
addressed those, that a lot of the light would not be visible. Some of it was
only 40 inches above the ground.
Council Member Wolbach: Just to clarify, the recommendation was lighting
impacts on wildlife.
Council Member DuBois: Again, I would decline. If you want to make it a
separate Motion, you can.
Council Member Wolbach: I'll make it a separate Motion.
Council Member Berman: I'll second.
AMENDMENT: Council Member Wolbach moved, seconded by Council
Member Berman to replace Part E of the Motion with, “require that the
building be bird safe in structure and that the Applicant work with Staff and
the Audubon Society on lighting impacts on wildlife.”
Council Member Wolbach: Just to speak to it briefly. I appreciate what
Council Member DuBois just mentioned about lighting, provisions that have
already been made. My emphasis here is less about the impacts of lighting
on the aesthetics and more about the potential for negative impacts on
wildlife. I think that there are best practices available. Through consultation
with Staff and the Audubon Society, I think that the project can
accommodate those probably pretty easily.
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Mayor Burt: Council Member Berman.
Council Member Berman: Just briefly, I think this is in a wildlife-sensitive
area. I don't understand the intricacies of the aviary patterns above that
area, but I think it's not a hardship for the applicant to work with the
Audubon Society just to make sure. We're not being prescriptive about what
the solution is. We're saying work with them to address and mitigate any
concerns that might exist. I think this is an environmentally sensitive thing to do given the general area of the project.
Mayor Burt: Vice Mayor Scharff.
Vice Mayor Scharff: (inaudible) impacts as practical.
Council Member Wolbach: How about to implement best practices as
appropriate for the site?
Vice Mayor Scharff: I just want to make sure it's not a hardship on the
applicant. You said it's not. To me that usually means if it's practical or not.
Council Member Wolbach: That's fine. Will that gain your support for this
amendment?
INCORPORATED INTO THE AMENDMENT WITH THE CONSENT OF THE
MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Amendment, “as practical.”
Vice Mayor Scharff: Yeah. That's normally my MO. Do I ever vote against anything I ...
Council Member Wolbach: You're good about that. That's fine. That would
be then require that the building be bird safe in structure, yada, yada, yada,
wildlife as practical.
AMENDMENT RESTATED: Council Member Wolbach moved, seconded by
Council Member Berman to replace Part E of the Motion with, “require that
the building be bird safe in structure and that the Applicant work with Staff
and the Audubon Society on lighting impacts on wildlife as practical.”
Mayor Burt: Let's vote on the Amendment. That passes unanimously.
AMENDMENT PASSED: 9-0
Mayor Burt: Returning to the original Motion, I'll comment on it. First I
think that automotive use here is entirely appropriate and may be a best
use. I think that the architectural design has been drastically improved. It
has actually a lot of really exceptional design features, whether those
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features are all compatible for the Baylands is something I'm less
comfortable with. I think the architectural quality is excellent. Those aren't
my issues. We basically have a building that is a 50-foot building on a 0.6
FAR. It makes this a completely anomalous building in the Baylands. For
whatever reason, the Planning Commission thought that was a nonissue,
and Staff doesn't seem to have been very concerned about it. I can't find
that it meets the design finding, number one, of being harmonious and compatible on Policy L-8 on the Comp Plan nor in Section 7 on the findings
around the massing. I think there's been a misinterpretation and
miscalculation of the Code as far as what constitutes a permissible parking
exemption. I just think it's wrong. It's not consistent, I believe, with our
past interpretations for auto dealerships. The Staff had actually tentatively
acknowledged that the showroom seems to have been miscalculated, and
nobody seems to be concerned about that. Another thing that didn't come
up by Staff or the Planning Commission or tonight is that the traffic
mitigation is to improve the intersection rather than to focus on a TDM
program. Here, we've got another development with discretionary approval,
and there's no TDM that's part of that. That ought to be our first choice to
reduce the car trips, and second choice to expand the intersection. It's also not clear to me what our cost would be at the intersection. The Staff Report
said that, I think, the developer would pay for the improvement and then
charge back the City on everything that wasn't its proportionate share. I
have no idea how many dollars those are. This whole notion that if we don't
approve this 50-foot tall auto dealership when we have auto dealerships
surrounding it at half that size, somehow this would be the reincarnation of
the domino effect on auto dealerships, I think, is not a strong argument.
We've had those auto dealerships thriving out there despite a whole bunch
of claims for 15 years that they were on the cusp of demise. Instead, they
wanted to expand there. I have no idea what the actual FAR is here and
what this really would be if it was properly counted. I think this is a correct
use, a well-designed building, and not properly calculated on its size and
significantly taller and more massive that it should be for this location. I
think we're just not doing our homework on looking at our Zoning Codes and
the compatibility with the surroundings. It's a 50-foot building; there's no
50-foot buildings around it, and there's no necessity for this to be 50 feet. I
see two more lights, but that would initiate a whole other round, so I
hesitate to do that at this hour. What I'd like to do is go ahead and have us
vote on the board. That fails on a three in favor and Council Members
Schmid, Burt, Kniss, Filseth and Holman opposed and Wolbach abstaining.
MOTION AS AMENDED FAILED: 3-5-1 Berman, DuBois, Scharff yes,
Wolbach abstaining
Mayor Burt: I thought you had already made your comments.
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Council Member Wolbach: (inaudible)
Mayor Burt: You had previous comments.
Council Member Wolbach: (inaudible)
Mayor Burt: I don't know what you're saying. The project fails, and that
concludes this item.
Council Member Holman: Mayor Burt?
Mayor Burt: Yes.
Council Member Holman: Maybe it's a question for City Attorney. The
motion to approve the project failed, but it wasn't a denial of the project.
I'm just wondering—I look to the City Attorney for this ...
Mayor Burt: Good question.
Council Member Holman: ... if there could be a motion to return this to the
ARB with direction to fix the ailments of the project.
Cara Silver, Senior Assistant City Attorney: I think you have two options at
this point. You can either choose to deny the project and state your reasons
why you're denying the project or you can direct to send it back to the ARB
as you had suggested.
Mayor Burt: I will move that it is returned to the ARB with guidance to more
carefully calculate the permissible FAR and to adjust the building height and mass to be more in alignment with the finding requirements on
compatibility.
Council Member Holman: I second that.
Mayor Burt: Second by Council Member Holman.
MOTION: Mayor Burt moved, seconded by Council Member Holman to refer
this project to the Architectural Review Board (ARB) with guidance to:
A. More carefully calculate the permissible Floor Area Ratio (FAR); and
B. Adjust the building’s height and mass to be more consistent with
Compatibility Findings.
Mayor Burt: I don't need to speak further to the Motion.
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Council Member Holman: I just have a small number of amendments to add
please. That the project should include bird safe design.
Mayor Burt: Sounds good.
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion, “incorporate bird safe
design.” (New Part C)
Council Member Holman: While agreed and certainly previously noted that the Baylands General Design Principles and the scenic corridor are
mentioned in the Staff Report, they're not referenced in the findings or the
Record of Land Use Action. That's where it matters. When this goes back to
the ARB—this is just guidance, not motion. When this goes back to the ARB,
that those things be carefully considered as well as the Baylands master
plant list when it comes to landscaping. Maybe I should put that in the
motion.
Mayor Burt: I should have added—go ahead. I should have added a
request to evaluate a TDM program.
Council Member Holman: I probably should add to the Motion that the
Baylands master plant list be considered in the landscape plan, that the
Baylands General Design Principles be considered in the project design and included in the Record of Land Use Action as well as the impacts on the
Embarcadero Road scenic corridor.
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE
MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion, “consider the Baylands
Master Plant List in the landscape design.” (New Part D)
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE
MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion, “include the Baylands
General Design Principles in the project design and Record Of Land Use
Action (ROLUA).” (New Part E)
Mayor Burt: I'd like to add the consideration of a TDM program.
Council Member Holman: That's good with me.
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion, “include consideration of a
Transportation Demand Management (TDM) program.” (New Part F)
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Council Member Holman: One thing we didn't—if there are intersection
improvements, that the cost implications be brought forward including the
fair share of the applicant.
Mayor Burt: Okay.
INCPORORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE
MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion, “include cost implications
including fair share costs to Applicant of intersection improvements.” (New Part G)
Council Member Holman: Thank you to the applicant for bearing with us.
I'm sorry this is a long, windy road hear.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: I would just ask that the words "and lighting" be
added after "bird-safe design." It might be redundant, but I just want to be
very explicit. It'd just say "bird-safe design and lighting."
Mayor Burt: That's acceptable to me.
INCORPORATED INTO THE MOTION WITH THE CONSENT OF THE MAKER AND SECONDER to add to the Motion Part C, “and lighting.”
Mayor Burt: Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: Because I did end up voting no, I think it's worth an explanation to the applicant, which is important. I am very persuaded by
the height. I think, Pat, you did a good convincing job of height being not
very compatible with the buildings that are close by. I think it's got to be
difficult for the applicant to relook at this again. I think long term it will
make a big difference.
Mayor Burt: Thank you. That completes that item.
Male: (inaudible)
MOTION RESTATED: Mayor Burt moved, seconded by Council Member
Holman to refer this project to the Architectural Review Board (ARB) with
guidance to:
A. More carefully calculate the permissible Floor Area Ratio (FAR); and
B. Adjust the building’s height and mass to be more consistent with
Compatibility Findings; and
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C. Incorporate bird safe design and lighting; and
D. Consider the Baylands Master Plant List in the landscape design; and
E. Include the Baylands General Design Principals in the project design
and Record Of Land Use Action (ROLUA); and
F. Include consideration of a Transportation Demand Management (TDM)
program; and
G. Include cost implications including fair share costs to Applicant of intersection improvements.
Mayor Burt: I'm sorry. Please vote on ... It's getting late. That passes on
an 8-1 vote with Vice Mayor Scharff voting no. Thank you. Where are we?
MOTION AS AMENDED PASSED: 8-1 Scharff no
Inter-Governmental Legislative Affairs
18. Authorization for the Mayor to Sign a Letter Regarding the Governor's
By Right Housing Proposal.
Council Member Questions, Comments and Announcements
Mayor Burt: We are now on Council Member Questions, Comments and
Announcements. Council Member Holman.
Council Member Holman: Just one quick comment to Staff. I agree and I
think we all empathize that in a perfect world we'd be able to get our questions and comments to Staff in an earlier fashion. Because the packet
this week was quite enormous, including a last-minute item that came to us,
it just isn't always feasible. We do intend to work with Staff, but it just
sometimes—we can't quite get there.
Mayor Burt: I just want to say that I attended and was on a panel at the
Silicon Valley Energy Summit on Friday at Stanford around really our
sustainability and climate action efforts along with representatives from San
Francisco and a State legislator, I think, from Fremont. Again, Palo Alto's
efforts are really exemplary and models that other cities really turn to. On
Saturday, I attended the mobility hackathon up at SAP, which was really an
incredible event that was led by Jonathan Reichental. What I would say is
that there's a lot more that's going on between Jonathan and Josh Mello in
transportation on very innovative, new transportation technologies than
we're fully aware of. They're doing some really incredible stuff. I look
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forward to the Council getting fully briefed on those by Staff. Council
Member Wolbach.
Council Member Wolbach: You actually just said the thing I was going to
mention. I was also at the event on Saturday.
Mayor Burt: Council Member Kniss.
Council Member Kniss: As I mentioned previously, I was at the tax and
revenue committee meeting that was held last Thursday in Sacramento, which is part of the League of California Voters. I'm sorry. The League of
Cities.
Mayor Burt: On that note, the meeting's adjourned.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 12:35 A.M.