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FINAL
UTILITIES ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 7, 2011
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Foster called to order at 7:01 p.m. the meeting of the Utilities Advisory Commission (UAC).
Present: Commissioners Cook, Eglash, Foster, Keller, Melton and Waldfogel.
Absent: Commissioner Berry and Council Member Liaison Scharff.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
Amendments to the July 20, 2011 UAC meeting minutes were proposed as follows:
1. Change the ninth paragraph under Item #2 so it reads as follows: “Commissioner Keller
expressed that she is in favor of stability. Predictable rates are more conducive to investing in
conservation measures, as customers are more inclined to make investments when they can
predict future savings. She added that CPAU has the benefit of focusing on customers, unlike
PG&E, which focuses on shareholders. People value the service of having stable and
predictable rates.”
2. Add an eighteenth paragraph under Item #2 as follows: “Commissioner Keller commented that
there was an advantage to buying when we want rather than at the fluctuating market price.
For example, by buying ahead of the delivery month, we can avoid buying gas during a natural
disaster such as a hurricane that disrupts prices. Fong responded that there is never certainty
that market prices will be short spikes or sustained. Many of the price spikes are sustained for
some period and a laddered strategy cannot protect against these price spikes.”
The minutes from the July 20, 2011 UAC meeting were approved as amended.
AGENDA REVIEW
No changes.
REPORTS FROM COMMISSION MEETING/EVENTS
Commissioner Melton reported that the City held a public meeting to allow residents to ask questions about
the upcoming water rate change. However, only one resident attended so it seems clear that there was
less interest in attending an event in person than to comment via email. Commissioner Waldfogel
commented that the City should consider alternative communications methods including video conferences,
which could induce more participation.
City of Palo Alto
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UTILITIES DIRECTOR REPORT
In the absence of Director Valerie Fong, Assistant Director Jane Ratchye presented Fong’s Utilities Director
Report.
1. New generation of EV Chargers in City Hall garage: Two new EV chargers were installed at the City
Hall garage in late July. We got these chargers under the Charge Point America grant. Over the past
month, approximately 4 cars on average have utilized these chargers each day.
2. Esource has just completed a survey of business customers and how utility companies meet
their needs. Palo Alto ranked third nationwide. CPAU stood out from other utilities in a number of
areas, most notably the high scores business customers gave CPAU for delivering reliable energy.
CPAU was also recognized as an environmental steward by its large business customers, who
appreciate the utility’s efforts in helping them manage their energy costs. Large business customers
also highly rated their CPAU representatives, indicating their availability and attentiveness was a big
factor in overall satisfaction.
3. Three water efficiency workshops were held in August. All were very well attended and received
very positive feedback from residents. A workshop on September 24 will be a “Hands-On” family
planting session at the new native plant/low water use demonstration garden at Lucie Stern. The
demonstration garden is a collaboration the City, Acterra and the Bay-Friendly Landscape and
Gardening Coalition. Funding sponsors include the City, Acterra, the Bay Area Water Supply and
Conservation Agency (BAWSCA), the California Native Plant Society, EarthCare Landscaping, Lyngso
and community members.
4. Update on R&D opportunities. In the past couple of weeks we were presented with an opportunity to
partner in the Helios Community Solar Project (HCSP) – a fully integrated approach to high penetration
community solar. The project sponsor (Distributed Energy Consumer Advocates or DECA), assembled
a team to apply for a grant from the California Solar Initiative Research, Demonstration, and
Deployment Program. Other participants were Stanford’s Program on Energy and Sustainable
Development and EnerVault Corporation. Staff responded promptly and put together a team and
budget estimates within a couple of days. Unfortunately, last minute changes in the proposed
partnership (EnerVault pulled out) and last minute expansion of the project definition and budget led
staff to conclude that further participation was not wise.
5. Update on Water Rate Changes: The Council will vote on the revised changes to water rates on
September 19 following a Public Hearing. As required by Proposition 218, all customers and parcel
owners in Palo Alto were notified of the proposed changes to water rates in a letter sent on July 29.
The Utilities Department also organized a community meeting on August 29 to discuss any issues
related to water costs and rates. The meeting was attended by Vice Chair Berry and Commissioner
Melton, but had minimal public attendance.
6. PG&E Pipeline Safety: PG&E filed its Natural Gas Transmission Pipeline Replacement or Testing
Implementation Plan on August 26 as required by the CPUC. Phase 1 of the proposed plan covers
pipeline work in urban areas. The work will be undertaken between 2011 and 2014, and has a total
cost of $2.2B, of which $222M is proposed to be paid for by shareholders (the additional revenue
requirement for 2012 -2014 is $768M). Costs for Phase 2 are yet to be determined. Under PG&E’s
proposal, Palo Alto’s local transmission rate would increase from $0.025 to $0.050 per therm - an
increase of $1.10 per month for an average residential customer. Staff is monitoring the developments
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in this case and plans to attend a meeting with PG&E to discuss cost recovery. Staff will intervene in
the appropriate CPUC proceeding in accordance with Gas Utility Long-term Plan strategy #5:
“At a reasonable cost, protect the City’s interests and maintain access to transportation on
par with PG&E’s core customers by participating in the regulatory and legislative arenas
when the potential impact on the City is aligned with the cost to intervene and the
probability of success.”
7. Legislative Update: Assembly Member Bradford, who chairs the Assembly Utilities & Commerce
Committee (on behalf of LADWP) has gutted and amended one of his bills, AB 1391, inserting
language that would give the California Energy Commission (CEC) RPS enforcement and penalty
authority over publicly owned utilities for the first time ever. With September 9 as the last day for bills
to pass the Assembly and Senate, this bill will move quickly over the next couple of days. NCPA has
been meeting with key legislators and staff to beat back this effort, and is asking members to contact
their representatives to express their opposition. This week, the City sent letters to Senator Simitian
and Assembly Member Gordon urging them not to accept this change of authority.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1. Subcommittee Proposed Response to the Council Colleagues’ Memo
The UAC subcommittee did not complete its work on this item. Chair Foster suggested it be re-agendized
at the next meeting for a full Commission discussion. Commissioner Melton asked if it there should be an
effort to reach out to the authors of the Colleagues' Memo or if the UAC should just submit a report to the
Council. Commissioner Waldfogel remarked that the item should not be held up any longer and to discuss
it next month even if no outreach has been done. Chair Foster recommended that outreach should be
attempted and suggested that four Commissioners could each contact one of the authors.
NEW BUSINESS
ITEM 1: DISCUSSION: Report on the Status and Future Alternatives to Consider for Completion of the
Electric Overhead to Underground Conversion Program
Assistant Director Tomm Marshall introduced Senior Electrical Engineer Tom Ting, who provided a
presentation on the information contained in the written report.
Chair Foster opened the floor to clarifying questions from the commissioners.
Commissioner Eglash asked if other cities do undergrounding, or have overhead systems, and does it
depend on if it's a new development. Marshall responded that underground utilities are required in new
developments in Palo Alto and other cities, but PA has many older neighborhoods that would need to be
converted from overhead to underground.
Commissioner Melton asked for clarification on prior information regarding funding the AT&T costs. Could
Utilities pay for these costs or would they need to come from the general fund? Marshall responded that he
would need to clarify with the City Attorney’s office, but if they cannot be collected from rates, there may be
other ways, such as assessment districts. Commissioner Melton asked if every property owner must agree
to an underground district and how do you work with customers who refuse conversion. Marshall stated
that the decision on an underground district is the Council’s. Staff will survey customers in an underground
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district on their level of interest and provide the results to Council who make the final decision. Once
established, all customers must convert from overhead to underground service.
Commissioner Waldfogel asked if the $5000-$10,000 cost of conversion is a cost that the homeowner has
to pay. Marshall responded this is correct. Commissioner Waldfogel asked if the substructures work was
done concurrently. Marshall stated that the cost estimates are based on joint trench construction which
provides significant savings on costs. The primary cost of the work is digging the trench and restoration.
Commissioner Waldfogel stated that if AT&T does not participate in the undergrounding with the other
utilities it could put them at risk for a higher cost should there be a City rule change that requires
undergrounding of facilities in the future. Marshall stated they would likely fall back to the CPUC rules on
undergrounding.
Public Comment
Jeff Hoel asked why anyone would do an underground district if the cost to maintain it was higher than
aerial systems. The current report indicates a 10% AT&T, 10% Comcast, and 80% CPAU and customer
split. It was previously reported that cost was split into thirds between the three utilities.
Gary Lundgren recommended accelerating the undergrounding program. He recommended not pursuing
the option to change a rule at the CPUC as it would be too costly for legal fees. He stated that the AT&T
cost was only 10% of the cost so the City or customers should pay that. He also noted that it is a good time
to do undergrounding projects as there is the possibility of getting federal stimulus grants and installation
costs can be low in this economic environment.
Herb Borock noted that the useful life of an undergrounding is identified as 30-40 years in one report and
40-50 years in another. He stated that it should be at least 50 years. He asked who paid for the Electric
Fund’s share of the costs – residents, businesses, or all customers. He stated that the rebuilding of
underground districts delays the construction of new districts. These should be done in addition to the new
projects. He suggested an alternative, which we may not like, is to underground just the electric service
and retain the AT&T lines on the aerial poles. He stated that the main concern is the equity with the entire
City paying for the undergrounding in certain areas.
Commissioner Discussion
Chair Foster asked for clarification on the split of costs between the three utilities. Marshall stated that the
60-20-20 split that was previously reported was only for the substructures. It did not include the cost of
electrical facilities.
Commissioner Eglash stated there is a question of equity and fairness across the City. Residents
appreciated the aesthetic benefit and any decision to stop leaves some with and some without. A decision
to discontinue the undergrounding program may need to be brought to a vote of the people. He is struck by
the cost of completing the program ($281 million) and ongoing maintenance. He does not see a sensible
way to proceed given these costs, but we need to involve public in discussion.
Commissioner Keller was struck by the cost and concerned about the equity issues. She stated we should
try to quantify the value of the benefits – property value, safety (fire, etc.), improved reliability; but greater
exposure to electric and magnetic fields – noted in the report from January 2010, and maybe ask real
estate professionals for advice to better compare the costs and benefits.
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Commissioner Waldfogel asked what is or was the rule that required undergrounding at homes. Marshall
replied that there was a rule that required boxes be placed in the sidewalk and that services be
underground, but this was changed about 10 years ago since facilities were in wrong place and had to be
abandoned.
Commissioner Melton agreed with speaker Lundgren not to pursue any changes with the CPUC. He stated
that we need to proceed under our existing rules. He is torn between cost and desire to have facilities
undergrounded and felt that it would be best to put the alternatives before the public to decide which
direction to move in. We should move as quickly as we can to a decision.
Commissioner Keller stated she is not necessarily a proponent of undergrounding, but wants to see
benefits quantified. She also felt that we should look at how else we could spend the money needed for
this program.
Commissioner Waldfogel stated that the accelerated program would cost $17.50/month per customer so
should show the public this as it may be affordable.
Commissioner Eglash asked how much of system is already underground. Marshall stated half of city, but
only a small amount of residential areas.
Commissioner Melton stated that the remaining areas to be undergrounded are residential and primarily a
residential issue. It is not just $17.50 per month per customer, but also the cost of converting their
services.
Commissioner Eglash stated that approximately half of the city has underground facilities which should be
kept in mind in terms of equity. Marshall stated that some of these facilities went in underground when the
area was developed and that a majority of the money for undergrounding has come from business
customers, collected through the rates, who make up 80% of our revenue.
Commissioner Cook disagreed with AT&T’s position that the residential areas were not of public benefit, felt
that we should continue the program with all customers paying for cost, we should not vote to discontinue
the program, and advocates moving forward with the accelerated program.
Commissioner Keller asked if we always know that maintenance cost was higher for underground systems.
Marshall replied yes, this was not a surprise as this was noted in reports in the 1960’s. He also mentioned
that the old cables lasted 30-40 years, but new ones are expected to last 40-50 years.
Commissioner Keller felt that we should sit back and reassess for residential areas. The fact that it was a
good idea in the past is not a reason to continue now.
Chair Foster requested clarification on costs. All customers would pay $230 (if paid by residential
customers only) per year for 30 years and those being undergrounded would also have to pay to
underground their services. Marshall stated yes.
Marshall stated that we will return to UAC after discussions with Finance Committee.
Commissioner Melton wanted to go on record that the UAC is in support of staff pursuing a survey with the
public with a sample size large enough to adequately represent how the community feels about this item.
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Commissioner Keller would like the opportunity to review the questions prior to starting the survey.
Chair Foster would like to see the underground program move forward but is cognizant of the cost; he is
supportive of surveying customers to try to reach as many people as possible and asks that we not rely on
getting comments at a Council meeting. He realizes that $210 (if paid by all customers) per year is not an
insubstantial sum of money.
ITEM 2: PRESENTATION: Update on the Citywide Ultra High-Speed Broadband System Project
Assistant Director Tomm Marshall introduced Management Specialist Jim Fleming, who presented updated
information about the plan to evaluate approaching fiber-to-the-premise (FTTP) by using a “user-financed”
business model. This business model would ask the property owner to pay a one-time installation fee to
connect fiber service connections to the premise. The property owner would also agree to pay a monthly
recurring charge to interconnect with an Internet Service Provider (ISP) for bandwidth services. A key
component of the user-financed model is that an extension of the fiber backbone to a nodal access point
would be contingent on a certain level of participation of households within a neighborhood willing to pay
the one-time installation fee.
The next steps for evaluating the user-financed model for FTTP are conducting a community survey to
measure interest in the user-financed approach and the development of a financial analysis for the model
which will include an assessment of a City-operated or third party-operated business models. To complete
the community survey and financial analysis outside consulting firms will be retained.
Fleming also provided an update on ongoing discussions with the Palo Alto Unified School District
regarding dark fiber service connections for the District Office and the schools, in addition to an update on
recent discussions with Crown Castle, an independent builder and operator of shared wireless
infrastructure such as cellular-towers and Distributed Antenna Systems (DAS).
Public Speakers
Jeff Hoel commended staff for coming up with this creative approach for FTTP (i.e. user-financing). Mr.
Hoel is interested in staff naming other communities trying this approach. He knows of only a couple of
communities where that comes close. The first community is UTPOIA (consortium of 16 Utah cities
building a FTTP network) where they already have an open access system with lot’s of retail service
providers in place. According to Mr. Hoel, when UTOPIA builds-out in new communities they are asking
new customers to chip-in a $3,000 connect fee, but in exchange for that customers know in advance about
what products they can buy from which companies. The second community is Danville, Virginia, where
there is a fiber-to-the-business network. Mr. Hoel stated that he does not care about wireless, but he does
care about wireline being connected for ultra high-speed. Mr. Hoel stated that if wireless wants to be a low-
profile customer that’s fine, but don’t let it get in the way of FTTP going forward.
Herb Borock stated that it seems to be déjà vu all over again in terms of staff advocating hiring another
consultant to prepare a report and deferring to the same Citizen Advisors. Mr. Borock stated that we need
to take a step back and determine what the Council wants to accomplish. Mr. Borock expressed his
concern that just three months ago, the UAC got a report from staff summarizing two consultants’ reports.
Mr. Borock thought the next step would be a report making a recommendation from those consultants’
reports to the Council. The first steps seemed to be focused on extending the dark fiber so that some
businesses, who don’t think it’s economic to be subscribers to the dark fiber, would get a lower rate. Mr.
Borock suggested the library funding model be considered for a fiber build-out. Mr. Borock observed that
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the policy seems to be to delegate review to the Citizen Advisors and the staff, without the Council
addressing the real policy of what they want to accomplish. Other suggestions and concerns stated by Mr.
Borock include:
The funds to build-out the fiber system could be provided by returned earnings in the fiber fund, in
addition to using the revenue stream to back-up a bond.
The fiber system should be operated by a private operator who would have the incentive to provide
proper quality service.
The legal issue of Proposition 218 should be discussed by Council in terms of a universal service
versus a service that is only provided to those that want the service.
The policy questions and engagement of the Council are important related to proposals for the fiber
network.
Commissioner Comments
Commissioner Waldfogel thanked staff for the presentation and stated that he thinks it’s a creative way to
respond to the Council’s request for some motion and movement forward on a FTTP project using a less
capital intensive approach. Commissioner Waldfogel stated that he looks forward to seeing the business
models and survey results.
Chair Foster asked staff about the timeline. Fleming responded that the consultants’ work will take six to
eight weeks. Chair Foster asked Assistant Director Tomm Marshall if this project will come back to the
UAC in the first half of 2012. Assistant Director Marshall replied yes, and he stated that we’ll also be going
to the Council to provide an update about the project.
ITEM 3: DISCUSSION: Exploration of the Potential and Feasibility of Siting a 25 to 50 MW Gas-Fired
Power Plant in Palo Alto
Assistant Director Jane Ratchye introduced the author of the report, Resource Planner Dr. Jim Stack, who
was available to answer Commissioners’ questions. Chair Foster thanked staff for producing an excellent
report.
Commissioner Melton noted that this topic has been analyzed before, but believes that it had been long
enough since the last analysis that it was worth reexamining. He thanked staff for putting together a report
that addresses a number of different alternatives to building a local gas-fired power plant that could achieve
the same reliability benefits that the generator would. He said that he is persuaded that the alternatives
presented – namely the Ames and SLAC redundant transmission line projects – solve most of the reliability
issues that he was concerned about. He noted that it was now imperative to execute on one or more of
those alternatives. He said that he is pleased to accept this report, and promised not to ask about local
gas-fired generation again for another couple of years.
Commissioner Eglash thanked staff for its work on the report, calling it an example of staff work at its best.
ITEM 4: ACTION: Potential Topic(s) for Discussion at Future UAC
Chair Foster stated that he distributed his notes from the July 11, 2011 joint UAC/Council meeting and
asked Commissioners if they would please review the notes along with the 12-month rolling calendar to
determine if there are some items of interest that came up at the meeting that should be on the calendar.
Commissioner Keller heard that an alternative transmission line was a major issue and should be
discussed. Ratchye said that staff is definitely working on that issue, but had no specific timeline set out on
when a recommendation on a project would be brought to the Commission. It depends on the negotiations
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with the various parties involved. She added that updates are provided in the quarterly reports on the
progress.
ACTION:
No action was taken.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Chair Foster remarked that he appreciated the information report provided on LED streetlights, but thought
that the total LED streetlight savings should include maintenance cost savings.
Reviewing the 12-month rolling calendar of upcoming items, Chair Foster noted that the October agenda
contains a discussion in the Innovation Fund. He stated that the fund should be larger, rather than smaller,
since Palo Alto is at hub of Silicon Valley and a center of innovation. He urged staff to think broadly.
Chair Foster stated that there is a need to look at the composition of the various UAC subcommittees at an
upcoming meeting. He also noted that the bill insert he received in the most recent Utilities bill on the
regional water system’s seismic upgrade very helpful. Chair Foster added that the participation rate in the
PaloAltoGreen program has leveled off and wanted to examine if there were ways to increase participation
in that program.
Meeting adjourned at 8:47 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Marites Ward
City of Palo Alto