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UTILITIES ADVISORY COMMISSION - SPECIAL MEETING
MINUTES OF JULY 28, 2010
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Waldfogel called to order at 7:05 p.m. the meeting of the Utilities Advisory Commission (UAC).
Present: Chair Waldfogel, Commissioners Berry, Cook, Eglash, Keller, Melton and Council Member Yeh
Absent: Commissioner Foster
Additional Council Members Present for Unfinished Business Item #1: Mayor Burt, Vice Mayor Espinosa,
and Council Member Scharff
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
None.
AGENDA REVIEW
No changes to the agenda were requested.
REPORTS FROM COMMISSION MEETINGS/EVENTS
None.
UTILITIES DIRECTOR REPORT
Utilities Director Valerie Fong delivered an oral report on the following items:
1. Property Assessed Clean Energy (PACE) Loans: Staff has drafted a letter to Palo Alto’s
Congressional reps (Senators Boxer and Feinstein and Representative Eshoo) supporting legislation to
prevent Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from stifling California’s Property Assessed Clean Energy
(PACE) program. The letter is planned to go out under the mayor’s signature before the end of the
month.
2. Council’s Ad Hoc Subcommittee on the Role of the UAC: Council Member Yiaway Yeh, the chair
of the Council Ad Hoc Subcommittee, has called a wrap-up meeting of the subcommittee next week
(August 2 at 8 am).
3. May UAC meeting is typically a budget workshop … need to do a quick poll on which day of the
week works best for folks. In the past, the workshop has been on the same day (but during the day) as
the May UAC meeting. If it’s a day meeting, is there a better day of the week where we can be sure
you will all be able to attend?
4. Joint Study with the Council and UAC (an annual event) … tentative dates, Oct 4th (Monday) or
October 18th (Monday). Please check your calendars and look for an e-mail from Marites as she will
check to see which day works best of the two days.
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
ITEM 1: DISCUSSION: Informational Update to Support the Utilities Advisory Commission’s Response to
the Council Colleagues’ Memo Regarding the Development of a Comprehensive Energy Efficiency and
Renewables Procurement Strategy
Chair Waldfogel opened the discussion by asking the four City Council members present to comment on
the Colleagues’ Memo. Council Member Yeh began by pointing out that at the previous UAC meeting on
July 20; the UAC had agreed that the upcoming review of the Long-term Electric Acquisition Plan (LEAP)
and the Gas Utility Long-term Plan (GULP) and the update of the Utilities Strategic Plan will answer many
of the issues raised in the Colleagues’ Memo. Vice Mayor Espinosa asked the UAC if parts of the memo
were confusing. He stated that the words in the memo were chosen intentionally, and he didn’t want to add
to the words agreed to by the entire City Council. Espinosa also stated that the entire Council approved the
Colleagues’ Memo and that a subset of the Council should not attempt to provide direction any different
from a close reading of the memo. He added that it would be inappropriate to expand from the script of the
memo or to ask individual Council Members for their points of view.
Commissioner Melton said that the memo contained two directives, but that there are many bulleted items
discussed in the body of the memo that aren’t included in the action item. He asked what is expected from
these other items and stated his belief that the UAC’s response should be broader than would seem to be
the case from the two directives. Vice Mayor Espinosa agreed that there should be a broad reading in that
sense and that the UAC should look at all policy issues addressed in the memo. Chair Waldfogel reminded
the group that the memo came from the discussion of the two Ameresco contracts and that the issues
raised when that went forward are also relevant.
Council Member Scharff added that he feels it would be important for the UAC to look at cost benefit
analyses of the two recommendations and that all the questions in the memo are appropriate to respond to.
He would like the UAC to look at questions around how to meet our green goals and what the rate
objectives are while keeping in mind what has happened with the refuse fund with falling revenue due to
rapid customer response to incentives and pricing policies. Scharff stated that the UAC should look at how
to integrate green goals with rates and budgets and the potential negative consequences to different policy
initiatives.
Mayor Burt agreed that the whole memo should be addressed and that the two recommendations in the
memo were meant to summarize the overall intent. He pointed out that the memo asks for a lot of analysis.
He is interested in the UAC’s feedback on whether too much is being requested in this one memo.
Commissioner Eglash said that the UAC wants to be helpful to the Council and support Utilities staff.
Eglash observed that the Council would like information, particularly as the costs of green power have gone
up since the Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) was approved, and that the Council would like more
feedback on how to balance environmental goals and low rates. He added that the UAC and staff are and
will be spending a lot of time on LEAP, GULP and the Strategic Plan. The UAC could hold the Colleague’s
memo aside until these other three long-term plans are complete or it could look to see if some of the
memo’s questions will not be addressed by the three plans and respond to these issues in a helpful
fashion. Eglash asked for the best way to communicate with the Council on these issues. Vice Mayor
Espinosa indicated that communications would be written or provided in a study session and that the
method may depend on the recommendations. He added that Council needs ongoing education on utility
matters from the experts on the UAC. Eglash stated that the UAC could either provide recommendations
or provide information for the Council’s decision-making process. Espinosa said that it is best to have a full
analysis with options for the recommendations that differ by what policy drivers are most important. Eglash
said that the policy implications and balance could be shown between, for example, cost, greenhouse gas
(GHG) emissions, and rates. Espinosa concluded that the UAC has a powerful role since the commission
will have done a more in-depth analysis than the Council has time for.
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Chair Waldfogel pointed out that the RPS is not the same as a goal to reduce GHG emissions. He said
that there is currently no state mandated RPS goal for Palo Alto, only Council-imposed goals. He
suggested that the focus maybe should shift from RPS to GHG emissions. Waldfogel said that the UAC
should keep this fact in mind with the caveat that mandates will probably change in the future. Council
Member Scharff agreed and said that the City should be looking outside the box for meeting GHG goals
and that the City should attempt to get the biggest bang for the dollars that are spent to further green goals.
Commissioner Keller pointed out that the questions in the memo are appropriate, but it is important to keep
in mind that the scenarios, regulations, and costs will change during the time that the questions are being
answered. She stated that it might be helpful to have more defined goals in moving toward these moving
targets. Mayor Burt agreed that it might be good to narrow the questions through multiple iterations in
information and feedback to the Council. For example, he is interested in looking at how the cost of energy
efficiency and renewable energy compare as cost of renewable energy increases —what is the benefit for
each per dollar spent? He would like the Council to have assistance in framing the question on how
reduction in usage, for example in water or in garbage collection, results in long-term revenue impacts.
Council Member Scharff agreed with this analysis and with looking at how fixed costs will influence rates
during lowered consumption. He stated that the Refuse Fund is a cautionary tale with “put-or-pay”
contracts.
Commissioner Eglash asked whether the Council had the appetite to address these issues abstractly or in
specific actionable items. Commissioner Cook added that the UAC is looking for context. Mayor Burt
suggested that the UAC provide recommendations to the Council and anticipate areas where the long-term
plans might have to be modified in the future.
Chair Waldfogel asked what a timely response to the Colleagues’ memo might be and recommended that
the Colleagues’ memo response be wrapped into the Strategic Plan. Commissioner Melton pointed out
that the LEAP, GULP, and Strategic Plan would probably be completed next calendar year. Commissioner
Berry suggested that all of these plans are ongoing processes. He added that included in the Strategic
Plan development are interviews with current and former Council and UAC members, and that these
interviews could inform the UAC in developing responses to Council on the memo. Vice Mayor Espinosa
noted that the Colleagues’ Memo did not contain a timeline. Council Member Scharff stated that the issues
are appropriately addressed in the LEAP, GULP, and Strategic Plan, but that if something comes up in the
meantime, these should be addressed and brought forward to the Council. The other Council members in
attendance agreed. Mayor Burt commented that the Council’s appetite is bigger than its stomach and that
the UAC will need to help manage the “diet.” Vice Mayor Espinosa agreed that most issues could be folded
into the Strategic Plan, LEAP, and/or GULP, but that there could be some items that don’t fit there or are
too detailed.
Commissioner Keller then asked the Council members if they have any burning questions that should be
answered first, but Burt responded that he did not have any sense that that was the case.
Mayor Burt noted that he’s unclear on the depth and granularity of the Strategic Plan. Commissioner
Melton suggested that Electric Vehicles (EV’s) might be a question that would be too granular to be
included in the Strategic Plan, but that the Council may appreciate an information memo on the topic.
Melton also suggested an approach that if EV penetration exceeds a certain threshold, then come back to
Council, or return to the issue in, say, two years. Vice Mayor Espinosa said that maybe it would be
appropriate to have an information memo about certain topics, but that it would be best to put the item in
context as to when the policy questions would emerge. Mayor Burt and Vice Mayor Espinosa agreed that
this is a dynamic process and rules established five years ago may no longer apply. There may need to be
a more dynamic Strategic Plan to avoid being handcuffed to outdated discussions. Burt also noted prior to
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Council action on LEAP, GULP and the Strategic Plan, the Colleagues’ memo should be used to provide
guidance to staff. Mayor Burt, Vice Mayor Espinosa, and Council Member Scharff then left the meeting.
Commissioner Keller asked how the current Strategic Plan has been used. Director Fong pointed out that it
is used when making recommendations to the UAC and City Council for decisions. Commissioner Berry
said that it is best to revisit a strategic plan every year even if it has a five- to ten-year planning horizon.
Council Member Yeh also added that the UAC should be aware that the Council is looking to modify the
liaison process and might have two liaisons to the UAC in the future, due to the activity and budget included
in the Utilities operations. He added that a white paper for the Council on what will be developed in the
LEAP, GULP, and the Strategic Plan might be helpful.
Summarizing the discussion, Chair Waldfogel stated that it seemed that all agreed that the issues would be
tied in to the strategic plan. Commissioner Berry asked if the UAC should appoint members to work on
issues that won’t be in the strategic plan. Commissioner Eglash added that he heard less that the UAC
should specifically respond to each point in the Colleagues’ Memo, but to reflect back the policies to
Council and take all issues in context. Council Member Yeh noted that staff has indicated that most issues
would fall within LEAP, GULP, and the Strategic Plan, but the UAC could map out the issues and see if
anything falls outside of that and, then, determine how to respond.
The Commission discussed the best way to respond to the memo and whether a separate subcommittee
on this issue is necessary, or if the work should be folded into the UAC’s Ad Hoc Subcommittee on the
Strategic Plan. Commissioner Melton suggested that the work on the Strategic Plan be done and then the
UAC can see how that works and what recommendations emerge. The UAC could then assess if
additional recommendations need to be made. Commissioner Keller agreed to work on the broad issues
before getting to the specifics. The Commissioner agreed to agendize the Strategic Plan in future UAC
meetings, so that all commissioners could discuss the pertinent issues. In the meantime, the Strategic Plan
subcommittee will consider the issues raised in the Colleague’s memo when developing the Strategic Plan.
ITEM 2: DISCUSSION: Gas Asset and Supply Management Plan (GASMP formerly known as GULP)
Draft Objectives and Strategies
Assistant Director Ratchye indicated that the UAC seemed to get through this item at the UAC’s July 20
meeting, but that the item was re-agendized in case there was further discussion.
Commissioner Eglash referred to GULP Strategy 5: Protect the Climate “Acquiring non-fossil fuel
alternatives for the portfolio when the total cost is less than traditional gas supplies including a reasonable
carbon adder.” Eglash indicated that before supporting the strategy, he would need to understand the cost
of implementing the strategy, what the definition of “reasonable” is for the carbon adder, and what would be
the rate impact. He wanted to see the implications of the proposed strategy.
Chair Waldfogel asked if GULP should address the substitutability of electricity and gas, and deferred to
staff for analysis. In the short term, he noted that he is not convinced that there’s much opportunity for
substitution, although this could be covered in a long-term plan. Director Fong suggested moving this to the
Strategic Plan. Commissioner Melton agreed that this is a long-term issues and must be viewed in a long-
term context.
Referring to the voluntary green gas program, Commissioner Keller suggested that further study on this
topic may be helpful.
Council Member Yeh added that staff should list all relevant existing policies that CPAU is operating under
and identify any that may need to be revisited.
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ITEM 3: DISCUSSION: Long-Term Electric Acquisition Plan (LEAP) Draft Objectives and Strategies
As a follow-up to the UAC meeting on July 20, 2010, Senior Resource Planner Monica Padilla provided a
brief presentation of the impacts on supply cost over ten years associated with alternative CPAU profiles.
The alternatives presented included:
Profile #1: Status quo (energy efficiency = 7.2% by 2020; RPS = 33% by 2015; no local generation)
Profile #2: Cost minimization – delay implementation of a 33% RPS to 2020 (energy efficiency = 7.2% by
2020; RPS = 33% by 2020; no local generation); and
Profile #3: Green maximization – aggressive energy efficiency plan and procurement of 100% carbon free
resources (energy efficiency = 18% by 2020; RPS = 33% by 2015; local renewable generation,
carbon-free market resources).
Padilla presented the results of the high level analysis, noting that the analysis did not take into account
uncertainties. Profile #3 was the most expensive alternative, but was 100% carbon-neutral. Profile #2 was
the lowest cost with Profile #1 in between. Padilla stressed that the analysis was for illustrative purposes
only and that it should not be used to make hard conclusions. More time and a thorough review of
sensitivity to various variables and scenarios would improve the analysis.
Commissioner Eglash commended staff’s effort in providing analysis to aid in making policy level decisions
and recognized that delaying RPS goals to 2020 did not have a significant cost savings over the current
RPS goal of 33% by 2015. Eglash said he would like to see more of this type of analysis and offered to
meet with staff to help frame the policy decisions.
Commissioner Melton noted that Profile #3, green maximizer, significantly increased costs and rates;
however, he would like to see impacts on rates and customer bills from various strategies. Chair Waldfogel
noted that in comparing the status quo to the cost minimization alternatives the impacts on carbon
reductions compared to the cost of achieving the reduction in dollars per ton would be an interesting metric.
Commissioner Keller expressed her support for additional analysis and recommended this level of analysis
be presented to the City Council to provide context in making policy decisions. Council Member Yeh
observed that some Council Members do like data, but qualitative conclusions are also beneficial.
Assistant Director Ratchye requested feedback from the UAC as to whether or not staff should recommend
delaying the RPS to 33% by 2020 in an effort to line up with the anticipated state mandate. Commissioner
Eglash opined that he is not supportive of going back on our RPS goals and supports retaining the goal to
achieve 33% renewable supplies by 2015. He noted that a quick scan of the graph comparing the different
profiles indicates that the current course is a good compromise between the extremes of the profiles.
Commissioner Berry would like to see a projection of CPAU’s electric rates compared to PG&E, Silicon
Valley Power and other competitors to see whether or not an aggressive RPS erodes the City’s competitive
price advantage.
ITEM 4: ACTION: Appointment of Members to Prepare the Utilities Advisory Commission Response to
Colleagues’ Memo
The Chair declined to take any action on this matter as the response to the Colleagues’ memo is to be
folded into the efforts of the Ad Hoc Subcommittee on the Strategic Plan.
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NEW BUSINESS
ITEM 1: ACTION: Appointment of Additional Member to the Ad Hoc Subcommittee on Strategic Planning
ACTION: Commissioner Eglash made a motion to appoint Chair Waldfogel to the Ad Hoc Subcommittee
on Strategic Planning. Commissioner Berry seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously (6-0).
ITEM 2: ACTION: Potential Topic(s) for Discussion at Future UAC Meetings
Commissioner Cook asked whether a potential topic might be a review of the energy efficiency goals and
achievements of other municipal utilities since some utilities had much higher goals (Burbank, Glendale)
than Palo Alto’s. Commissioner Eglash suggested that a first step might be for Commissioner Cook to
meet with staff off-line to obtain existing information (previously distributed to the Commission) to be able to
assess the need to do such a review. Cook agreed to meet with staff offline.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Council Member Yeh mentioned the low carbon cities initiative and his recent trip to Beijing. He noted the
effort in China to demolish the eastern section of Beijing and to replace it with housing for 1 million people
in what will be a carbon neutral section of the city. Yeh noted the fascinating discussions which involve
Stanford University and businesses in the Stanford Research Park in looking at initiatives to reach carbon
reduction goals. Yeh also pointed to the long time horizon involved to achieve some of the goals and
invited any interested Commissioners to let him know of a desire to participate in the dialog.
Meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Marites Ward
City of Palo Alto Utilities