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Policy & Services Committee
Regular Meeting
October 12, 2021
The Policy and Services Committee of the City of Palo Alto met on this date
in virtual teleconference at 7:00 P.M.
Present: Kou (Chair), Stone, Tanaka
Absent: None
Oral Communications
None
Agenda Items
1. Review and Approve a Task Order for the Office of the City Auditor to
Conduct the Utility Work Order Process and Accounting Review.
City Auditor Kyle O’Rourke reported that the Utility Work Order Process and
Accounting Review is a project that was approved as part of the Audit Plan.
The objectives of the audit are to identify high-risk subprocesses in the work
order process, document and evaluate the processes and controls in place to
ensure proper recording of costs, and perform tests to determine the
accuracy of attributed costs for a sample of completed work orders. The
utility work order process is a significant component of how utilities
operates. Staff recommended that the Policy and Services Committee
(Committee) forward the Utility Work Order and Accounting Review Task
Order to City Council (Council) as a Consent Calendar item.
Public Comments: None
Committee Member Stone inquired if the interviews will be in-person.
Mr. O’Rourke answered that all interviews will be conducted virtually.
Committee Member Stone wanted to understand the on-site fieldwork in
comparison to doing everything virtually.
Mr. O’Rourke mentioned that if the system is complex, it is beneficial to be
in person.
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Committee Member Stone asked if Staff is visiting Palo Alto (City), is Staff
required to stay at a Palo Alto hotel.
Mr. O’Rourke could not recall there being a specific requirement.
Committee Member Stone requested further information on comparing the
process and controls against best practices.
Mr. O’Rourke disclosed that the processes and controls are compared against
industry best practices and industry standards.
Committee Member Tanaka noticed that the agenda states that the start
time for the meeting is 7:00 P.M.
Chair Kou confirmed that the start time is 7:00 P.M. She asked if Staff is
allowed access into the utility’s system or are reports provided.
Mr. O’Rourke explained that it can be done either way, but for this specific
audit he was not sure.
Chair Kou mentioned that the price of the task is listed as $84,900 and
$81,400 is for the utility work order and process review while $3,500 is for
reimbursable expenses.
Mr. O’Rourke clarified that he did not anticipate visiting the City. If there is
a lot of paper documents then he would be required to come to the City and
review those documents. The City can choose to eliminate the travel budget
all together which would result in cost savings to the City or those funds
could be used for other audit activities.
MOTION: Chair Kou moved, seconded by Committee Member Stone to
recommend the City Council approve the Office of the City Auditor’s Utility
Work Order Process & Accounting Review Task Order on the Consent
Calendar.
MOTION PASSED: 3-0
2. Office of the City Auditor Presentation of the IT Risk Management
Assessment Report.
Baker Tilly’s Atit Shah introduced himself to the Policy and Services
Committee (Committee). He mentioned that he provided quality assurance
for the project.
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Baker Tilly’s Stacey Gill served as the project manager for this project.
City Auditor Kyle O’Rourke expressed appreciation to Palo Alto (City)
Information Technology (IT) Director and the City Manager’s Office for their
help on the audit. He mentioned that the risk ratings in Appendix A are not
necessarily intended to indicate an internal control weakness or operating
effectiveness. He emphasized that the audit is not a cybersecurity
assessment or review. Staff is planning to recommend additional IT audits
and cybersecurity audit work. He cautioned the Committee on asking
questions about the redacted information because the information contains
internal controls that should not be published politically. If the audit is
approved by Council, that approval accepts the action plan highlighted in
Appendix D.
Ms. Gill stated that IT risk management encompasses all the processes,
policies, tools, and methods to manage and mitigate IT-related risks.
Management of IT risks can be done on an operational level as well as on a
holistic level. The holistic approach evaluates activities that are being done
to actively understand what IT risks exist for the City and to assess and
respond to those risks. The IT risk framework included setting context, risk
identification and assessment, risk analysis and business impact evaluation,
risk response, and risk reporting and communication. The objective for the
audit included understanding the key risk areas within the IT governance
strategy and risk management environment, evaluate the adequacy of the IT
risk management framework and key internal controls, and offer
recommendations for improvement. For the audit, Staff identified the
Control Objectives for Information Technologies (COBIT) 5 framework and it
will be used for future implementation of the risk management program.
Staff reviewed background information and interviewed key personal to
understand the City’s IT risk management strategy. Then testing and
analysis was conducted to determine if the design mitigates key risks and
then Staff identified opportunities for improvement. The first
recommendation that Staff provided was that the City establish a risk
appetite and tolerance when developing strategy and implement proactive IT
risk management processes. The second recommendation was to develop a
risk register and risk assessment process. The third recommendation was to
use standard criteria to measure the likelihood, impact frequency, and
magnitude of the risk scenarios from a top-down and bottom-up approach.
The fourth recommendation was to plan and implement a mitigation
approach to avoid, share, transfer, or accept any risks identified in the risk
appetite. The fifth recommendation was to monitor risks and report timely
and accurate risk information to decision-makers and stakeholders.
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Mr. Shah clarified that Staff is not saying that communication is not
happening. Staff recommends that a formal process be established to
communicate what is happening with key stakeholders and decision-makers.
Public Comments: None
Committee Member Stone inquired if the five steps listed in the risk
management workflow are formal IT risk management.
Ms. Gill confirmed that is correct.
Committee Member Stone asked if Staff will be working with Mr. Rourke to
develop criteria for the City to use to rank risks.
Mr. Shah answered that it depends upon what the City’s risk appetite is and
then based on that, Staff will work with the City to develop a criteria matrix.
Committee Member Stone wanted to know if the budget includes periodic re-
evaluation.
Ms. Gill stated that the City’s IT Department monitors ongoing risks.
Chair Kou asked who will develop the risk management workflow steps.
Mr. O’Rourke answered that the City’s IT Department will be creating those.
An outside consultant will formalize the process and conduct the first
documentation of the risk assessment.
IT Director Darren Numoto answered that is correct.
Chair Kou inquired how the redacted information is being handled if an
outside consultant is doing the work.
Mr. Numoto explained that Staff would follow the City’s existing procurement
process for outside consultants.
City Attorney Molly Stump confirmed that the information is protected
through the contractual relationship with the vendor.
Chair Kou wanted to know how many frameworks are there and why was
COBID 5 was chosen.
Mr. Shah explained that COBID 5 is a full risk management framework that
is geared towards IT.
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Chair Kou remarked that Mr. Numoto and his team have done very well
through the Coronavirus Pandemic. She agreed that there is a need to
formalize and identify the risks as well as to protect the public and their
information.
Committee Member Tanaka announced that overall the audit and the
recommendation make sense. He requested further clarification on how the
City determines what work is done in-house and what work is outsourced.
He mentioned that many government agencies are moving to a cloud
database which is cheaper and easier to secure.
Mr. Shah mentioned that transitioning to a cloud would require a significant
investment by the City.
Mr. Numoto commented that the City is using the cloud for certain workloads
and will continue to increase that as needed. Even if the City moved to the
cloud full time, the City would still need to manage the infrastructure, and
that requires folks who have a certain skill set.
Committee Member Tanaka asked what percentage of the workload is on-
premise versus in the cloud.
Mr. Numoto disclosed that there is a high percentage of internal services on-
premise.
Committee Member Tanaka indicated that using the cloud will reduce Staff
time.
Mr. Numoto restated that there is a significant cost because a cloud is
consumption-based and there must be cost management.
Committee Member Tanaka inquired if using the cloud would increase
security.
Mr. Numoto explained that the City does have backup solutions that are
stored offsite. He emphasized that there are costs associated with backups
and other services.
Committee Member Tanaka appreciated Staff’s response but mentioned that
the federal government, and other agencies, are moving to the cloud. He
encouraged Staff to explore the pros and cons of using a cloud. Concerning
the audit report, he asked if any analysis was done on what type of work
should be done in-house versus outsourced.
Ms. Gill answered that type of analysis was not within the scope of the audit.
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Committee Member Tanaka asked how the audit compares to other Cities.
Mr. Shah answered that the City’s IT risk management is similar to other
cities the size of Palo Alto. He mentioned that because of the status of the
City being a high technology City, that draws hackers to the area.
MOTION: Chair Kou moved, seconded by Committee Member Stone to
recommend the City Council approve the IT Risk Management Report on the
Consent Calendar.
MOTION PASSED: 3-0
3. Review and Approval of the Office of the City Auditor (OCA) Annual
Report.
City Auditor Kyle O’Rourke reported that the scope of the work conducted by
the OCA included the Citywide risk assessment, preparation of the annual
audit plan, financial audit tasks, execution of the annual plan, preparation of
quarterly reports and annual status reports, and evaluation and
benchmarking. For Fiscal Year (FY) 2021, the OCA completed the first
Citywide risk assessment which was approved in March 2021 by City Council
(Council) and the FY 2022 Citywide risk assessment is pending kick-off. The
Annual Audit Plan was approved by Council in March of 2021. Concerning
the financial audit, the final FY 2020 audit reports were approved. Council
approved a 1-year contract extension due to extraordinary circumstances
and the FY 2021 financial audit is underway. A Request for Proposal (RFP)
has been issued to recruit financial auditors for the coming 3-year period
with an option to extend beyond the 3-years. Concerning the execution of
the Audit Plan, 10 task orders have been approved, and nine audit activities
are currently in progress. Concerning periodic reporting, Staff continues to
monitor the Fraud/Waste/Abuse Hotline, deliver quarterly reports, and
attend City meetings. Concerning the Fraud, Waste and Abuse Hotline, Staff
received and closed one report in the first quarter. The OCA reviewed prior
findings made from audits conducted in 2018 to the present. Staff
discovered 37 findings that were still pending action. Of the 37 findings,
Staff was able to close out 24 of them, and there are plans in place to close
out the remaining 13 findings in the coming years. Through the FY 2022
risk assessment process, Staff will re-evaluate audit priorities and determine
whether investment management, application lifecycle management, Phase
2 of Systems and Applications and Data Processing (SAP) functionality and
internal controls, and the Wastewater Treatment Plant Agreement are still
top priorities. In the coming months, OCA will be requesting feedback on
how the OCA is doing through the annual review process. Staff
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recommended that the Policy and Services Committee (Committee) forward
the Office of the City Auditor’s Annual Report to Council for the Consent
Calendar.
Public Comment: None
Committee Member Stone inquired if of the process to track and compare
overtime in various departments has provided any benefit to the City
regarding lowering overtime costs.
Mr. O’Rourke clarified that the recommendation was to improve the
reporting and control process. Staff verified and validated that those
controls were implemented as intended.
City Manager Ed Shikada noted that it is difficult to generalize trends in
overtime costs. He mentioned that there are legitimate reasons why
overtime is higher than it was in previous years.
Committee Member Stone wanted to know what the end goal is for the
Overtime Audit.
City Manager Shikada explained that the Overtime Audit was established in
the context of the Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) System that was
being developed at the time. The City decided to move in a different
direction with the ERP.
Committee Member Stone recalled that the City’s Municipal Code penalizes
the user of a gas-powered leaf blower and not the property owner. He
asked what the process is if the City were to modify that section of the code
so that the property owner receives a citation.
Planning and Transportation Director John Lait commented that the code can
be amended but it would require direction from the Council. Staff would
have to do more analysis to determine if it is feasible for the homeowner to
be responsible.
Committee Member Stone encouraged Staff to explore how to modify the
City’s Municipal Code so that the homeowner is penalized rather than the
owner of the leaf blower. He predicted that citing a property owner would
deter folks from using gas-powered leaf blowers. He mentioned that many
residents are frustrated with the lack of enforcement regarding leaf blowers.
He suggested that Council discuss whether code enforcement should
continue to address leaf blowers or should it be community service officers.
He emphasized that eliminating gas-powered leaf blowers will greatly help
the City reduce its greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions.
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Deputy City Manager Chantal Cotton Gaines mentioned that Staff is
continuing to educate the community on the ramifications of gas-powered
leaf blowers and lawnmowers.
Committee Member Stone appreciated Staff’s work on the issue, but he
predicted that even with a robust education and communication program.
The problem will not diminish until proper enforcement happens.
Committee Member Tanaka requested that Staff provide more details on
benchmarking.
Mr. O’Rourke explained that Task 6, evaluation and benchmarking, is peer
review benchmarking of the OCA.
Committee Member Tanaka asked if benchmarking is done that compares
the City to other jurisdictions.
Mr. O’Rourke answered yes, Task 4.9 and 4.10 does that type of
benchmarking.
Committee Member Tanaka encouraged Staff to do benchmarking as much
as possible against other jurisdictions. He appreciated that the City Manager
is releasing Net Promoter Scores (NPS) and encouraged Staff to use that
data to compare the City to other jurisdictions.
Mr. O’Rourke confirmed that Staff will use NPS in future reports.
Committee Member Tanaka emphasized that customer feedback is very
important and it is better to hear the feedback in real-time. He mentioned
that with the fluctuation of commodities in utilities, some utilities will use
hedging, and he inquired if Staff will be making recommendations regarding
that.
Mr. O’Rourke confirmed that there are currently no planned activities
regarding hedging, but it can be considered for the coming year’s Audit Plan.
Committee Member Tanaka commented that he did not agree with
Commissioner Member Stone’s recommendation to penalize homeowners
when it comes to gas-powered leaf blowers. He predicted that many
homeowners are not home when their gardeners come. He asked how can
the Council help the OCA become more effective and where does Staff need
more support.
Mr. O’Rourke answered that Staff needs help with the next risk assessment
process. Also, to provide feedback on future audit activities and to forward
any independent research of what other jurisdictions are doing to the OCA.
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Committee Member Tanaka wanted to better understand crime trends and
enforcement of the City’s existing ordinances.
Chair Kou remarked that when an audit is closed, Staff continues to monitor
the corrective actions.
Mr. O’Rourke answered that is correct.
Chair Kou asked for the non-profit agreement risk management review, is
the fieldwork is being conducted in person.
Mr. O’Rourke disclosed that work is being done remotely.
Chair Kou understood that the City Auditor’s Office is talking with City Staff
rather than talking with the non-profits themselves.
Mr. O’Rourke confirmed that is correct.
Chair Kou inquired if Staff will be reaching out to community stakeholders,
businesses, and residents for feedback on the code enforcement items.
Mr. O’Rourke explained that typically there is no interaction with the public,
but rather looking at the practices and procedures that are implemented by
City Staff to remediate any audit recommendations.
MOTION: Council Member Stone moved, seconded by Council Member
Tanaka to recommend the City Council approve the Office of the City Auditor
(OCA) Annual Report on the Consent Calendar.
MOTION PASSED: 3-0
Future Meetings and Agendas
Deputy City Manager Chantal Cotton Gaines announced that the items
pending for the meetings for November and December 2021 included priority
setting for the annual City Council retreat, the Legislative Guidelines, and an
update on the Protocols and Procedures document. Also, a quarterly update
on the race and equity work, the Community Ambassador Program, and
affordable housing funding. She asked if the Policy and Services Committee
(Committee) is interested in starting the meetings at 6:00 P.M.
Committee Member Tanaka commented that he wished to leave the start
time at 7:00 P.M.
Chair Kou did not mind a start time of 6:00 P.M.
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City Manager Ed Shikada noted that a 7:00 P.M. start time guarantees a 12-
hour day for Staff.
Committee Member Stone remarked that if it is easier for Staff, he
supported a 6:00 P.M. start time.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 8:32 P.M.