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Special Meeting
October 15, 2024
The Finance Committee of the City of Palo Alto met on this date in the Community Meeting
Room and by virtual teleconference at 2:30 PM.
Present In-Person: Burt (Chair), Lauing, Veenker
Absent: None
Call to Order
Chair Burt called the meeting to order at 2:30 PM.
The clerk called roll and declared all were present.
Public Comment
No Public Comment.
Agenda Items
1. Finance Committee (FC) Discussion for Director of Utilities Department Recruitment and
Input of Candidate’s Key Characteristics and Salary; CEQA Status – Not a Project
Human Relations Department Director Sandra Blanch voiced that they were present to discuss
recruitment of the next Utilities Director given that Dean Batchelor would be retiring. They
were requesting the Committee’s input related to desired candidate qualities. She introduced
the recruiter, Teri Black with Teri Black & Co., who was present remotely and would lead this
conversation.
Teri Black & Co. Executive Recruiting President & Founder Teri Black requested the Committee’s
thoughts and insights on qualities and characteristics desired for a new director and input
related to the priorities the new director should focus on the first 6 to 12 months of their
tenure.
Item 1 Public Comment
Herb B. discussed why he was surprised to see this on the agenda. He stated that the Municipal
Code outlined the functions of a Utilities Director. He remarked that the job description in the
packet differed from what was online. He wondered if it had already been decided that the CEO
would become the director.
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Council Member Veenker commented that Director Batchelor’s retirement was bittersweet.
She did not consider the succession to be set. She discussed the position requiring a broad
skillset, and she also wanted the director to manage climate goals with partners inside and
outside of the City.
Vice Mayor Lauing thought the City Manager would get input from multiple sources, not just
this Committee. He noted that Director Batchelor had agreed to be available even after his
retirement, so there was not a tight schedule to fill the position, and he wanted time to be
taken to find the exact right person for the job. He added that having the CEO could allow for
even more time to conduct the search. He expressed that electrification had to be a top priority
and that the director should think long term, not just a few years out. He wanted the director to
be up to date on new technologies, cost conscious, a great manager and recruiter of staff, and
able to manage in all directions. He thought it would be preferable to hire someone known in
the industry.
Chair Burt addressed the City being in a critical transformation of utilities. The foremost
function was to have reliable, cost effective, and safe utilities. He wanted the position to be
framed as an opportunity to have a leading and transformative impact to utilities. He added
that there would not be a perfect candidate, but he wanted the best candidate. He wanted to
ensure exceptional reliability in transitioning from gas to greater reliance on electricity. He
discussed the relationship of the staff liaison, the UAC, the Utilities Department, the Climate
Action Ad Hoc Committee, and Stanford and leveraging resources. He asked Director Batchelor
what transformations he had seen, what he saw on the horizon, and what should be looked for
in his successor.
Utilities Department Director Dean Batchelor replied that the successor needed to be open to
understanding what the possibilities could be, which he elaborated on. He stated that if there
was a deal with Cubberley, it should be the number-one goal because that would be where
folks would go in an emergency and would be the location of cooling and heating centers.
Batteries needed to be addressed. He thought the new director should strategize and think
about where the utility would go and how it would support customers and that they should be
able to manage throughout the organization, onboard people into positions, and look at the
potential for the future and how to move forward. He added that there needed to be a better
partnership with Stanford, and the director should be able to collaborate with them and other
agencies.
Chair Burt voiced that the new director would not be a superstar in all the different types of
utilities but should have a broad scope, and he asked if there should be greater strengthening in
senior staff and directors in major category areas.
Director Batchelor responded that they had been investigating succession planning. The most
important piece was electrification. The City was strong in gas and wastewater from the AD.
They would potentially fill an opening that could happen this year on the electric side, which
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would play key to the engineering and operational side, and they were speaking with folks who
understood Palo Alto.
Council Member Veenker noted that Palo Alto’s reputation in the utilities world and the
advocate community could attract candidates with the desired attributes.
Vice Mayor Lauing pointed out that the process was important. It was a City Manager hire, but
he requested that the Committee be provided touchpoints in the process.
Assistant City Manager Kiely Nose stated they were planning to have a conversation with the
UAC, which she believed would be this month or next month. She requested that Director
Blanch and Teri Black & Co. Black provide information related to the utilities market for
executives. She added that compensation may need to be discussed.
Director Blanch voiced that the industry and market was very competitive and compensation
would be a challenge. They were working to find a strategy and philosophy to attract and retain
employees, and she believed salaries were competitive, but it was being reviewed. There may
be a need for a 5- to 10-percent salary request, which would come to the Committee and go to
Council.
Teri Black & Co. Black echoed Director Blanch’s comments and stressed that it was difficult for
public sector utilities to compete with the private sector. Salaries and retirements were
increasing at a rapid pace, so they were looking at a base salary of about $400K, which was
competitive in the public sector. It was seven figures in the private sector. They would focus on
this being an opportunity that would be compelling to the right person.
Chair Burt asked if the candidate pool may be outside of California.
Teri Black & Co. Black answered that it would be a nationwide recruitment.
Council Member Veenker inquired if housing assistance could be part of the compensation
package. She spoke of it being advantageous for the director to reside within Palo Alto’s border
or at least nearby.
Assistant City Manager Nose had heard a general acknowledgement that compensation needed
to be adjusted, and a salary adjustment schedule could be presented to Council on consent.
The Committee supported that.
NO ACTION TAKEN
AA1. Overview of University Avenue, California Avenue, and RPP Parking Fund Financial Status,
Pricing Policy Options Development, and General Fund Loans; CEQA: Not a Project
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Office of Transportation Director Philip Kamhi announced that staff would provide an update
on the status of parking funds, including challenges, potential solutions, and next steps. He
displayed a slide with an overview of what would be covered at this meeting.
Office of Transportation Senior Analyst Joseph Shin provided a slide comparing pre- and post-
pandemic revenues and a slide with the breakdown of revenues in the University Avenue and
California Avenue funds, including adopted numbers for FY2025 and projections through
FY2029. He shared a slide of the expense summary, a pie chart with projected expenditures,
and a graphical representation of the General Fund support and the fund balance provided to
the parking funds. They were projecting that by FY2030 the University Avenue fund would need
more than the $700K budgeted annually to remain solvent.
Director Kamhi remarked that the current paid parking system presented some challenges,
which he outlined. They were developing a new parking management concept to improve
parking efficacy and user experience, which would include dynamic pricing, flexible permit
options, mobile payment integration, hourly pricing, and a merchant validation program. They
were working on pricing and new permit changes to improve revenues, and they proposed
increasing permit prices starting in FY2026. The parking permit technology was currently being
upgraded, which was needed to achieve new permits, and they were in the process of selecting
a new vendor. They did not think the pricing and new permits would address much of the
deficit. Next steps included presenting the parking concepts to the PTC in November and then
to Council. In early 2025, they would conduct additional public engagement, particularly on the
new vendor as permit options, curb management strategies, and on-street pricing would be
explored. During the FY2026 budget process, staff would recommend evaluating the General
Fund support as a full or partial subsidy without an obligation for repayment.
Item AA1 Public Comment
Herb B. spoke of the reasons for having the color zones. If retail establishments were to validate
parking, he felt it should be in the commercial areas.
John S. (zoom) felt strongly that Attachments E, F, and G did not provide valuable data and that
more accurate data was needed. He requested that the scope of the parking funds be analyzed.
He explained why he did not think there had been enough time to engage the public on this
issue.
Chair Burt queried what outreach had been done with property owners and businesses in the
downtown area and what the feedback had been to the considered proposals.
Director Kamhi thought the outreach work was starting and that it would begin in early 2025.
There had been a survey. He believed Assistant to the City Manager Steve Guagliardo was doing
some outreach to businesses.
Senior Analyst Shin thought most of the engagement work had been an assessment of the
current pain points. The parking planning efforts prior to COVID had many of the same pain
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points. Since then, they had been developing a larger planning framework in terms of using
more data and thinking about parking as a planning tool for mobility rather than a simple
provision. The color zone had been set up for specific reasons, and there was a specific
employee program. He explained that there was a different scenario now. They realized they
needed more tools, and more engagement would be done. They were working to bring on
partners to determine needed options.
Director Kamhi spoke of this item being an update and informing the Committee that they
would be doing stakeholder engagement, going to PTC, and starting the process and outlining
General Fund subsidies that would be needed and what they were considering as potential
concepts for improving the financial stability of the funds. If there was a desire to take on other
things, that would be another discussion.
Chair Burt stated it was helpful that it had been clarified that this was the beginning of the
process. He noted that the Committee received a late packet and that the staff
recommendations did not align with what Director Kamhi just described. It was recommended
that the Committee receive information, which was not engaging with the Committee to
provide guidance and direction in terms of the process. He thought that current versus pre-
COVID and anticipated problems should be discussed, and he did not see that being asked of
the Committee today. It would be an iterative process to think about the problem definitions
and the goals and strategies to address such.
Vice Mayor Lauing addressed the bar graphs and projections going out to 2029 and questioned
if revenues in the modeling had been raised between now and then. He asked if Palo Alto was
competitive with other cities on EV charges.
Senior Analyst Shin responded that revenues had been increased by 5 percent for daily and
long-term permit sales. EV revenues had been forecasted at a 15 percent increase. He did not
have information related to the competitiveness of Palo Alto’s EV charging.
Vice Mayor Lauing requested that the information related to the competitiveness of Palo Alto’s
EV charging be obtained, as prices may be able to be raised. Regarding the Public Works
maintenance contracts, he inquired how much of the salary and benefits were outsourced. He
asked what was meant by hourly pricing shortened time limits in busy areas but then add
affordable extensions; if merchant validation meant businesses would pay for parking as
opposed to the customer paying; and if the major disruption of ECR had been built into the
modeling.
Senior Analyst Shin answered that most of the maintenance in terms of janitorial, street
sweeping, and power washing was done by outside contracts. Staff ran more of the operational
aspect of the parking garages and lots. Slide 7 somewhat broke down the expenses. He believed
that the residential parking program would be impacted by the ECR closure primarily and that
there would not be much impact to the commercial district funds.
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Assistant City Manager Kiely Nose added that Packet Page 80 provided cost details of in-house
staff versus contracts.
Director Kamhi added, regarding ECR, that they had recommended that some of the impacted
businesses consider getting a Cal Ave garage permit. He stated, regarding hourly pricing
shortened time limits in busy areas but then add affordable extensions, there was currently a lot
of two- and three-hour free parking, so the idea was to limit that to maybe one hour free but to
make it easy to add time with the use of a mobile app. The structure would need to be
developed, but the notion of merchant validation was that there would be a mutual
relationship benefitting the business and the parking.
Council Member Veenker suggested that Palo Alto’s EV charging rates be somewhere in the
middle of Palo Alto’s electric rates and neighboring cities’ rates, which may provide additional
funds to the City. She was glad to see the current paid parking pain points itemized, which she
felt were accurate. She addressed lights reflecting empty parking spots that were not really
empty and requested that that be fixed. Under the concepts under development section, she
thought mobile payments should be used. She was nervous about dynamic pricing and rates
being based on demand, and she was interested in seeing the feedback from stakeholders. She
asked if merchant validation was intended primarily for Cal Ave and downtown. She queried
how merchant validation had succeeded in other cities, and she wondered if it could be
deployed in a way that would help with the economic redevelopment efforts. Regarding new
permit types, she liked the idea of half day and exploring the concept of long term for two to
three days per week tailored to hybrid work schedules.
Director Kamhi voiced that Public Works was currently fixing the issue with the lights reflecting
empty parking spots that were not really empty. Merchant validation was intended primarily
for Cal Ave and downtown where there were parking garages and lots and commercial parking
and potentially other commercial areas if commercial paid parking should be added. He
explained that they envisioned a paid parking pilot in one or two high-usage garages first. The
general idea of merchant parking was that it would be mutually beneficial. He provided an
example of how it would benefit a business and a customer. Whether merchants would send
the City a share of per validation or per the value of a purchase was still being investigated.
Chair Burt questioned how EV charging stations provided income to parking revenue. He
discussed people not being charged for a parking space if they were EV charging, people from
outside the City using Palo Alto’s charging stations, and people who lived in PG&E areas
charging their EVs at their workplaces in Palo Alto, and he noted he had previously requested
economic modeling, which he had not yet seen. He referenced Slide 5 and inquired why the
adopted FY2025 budget showed a projection higher in long-term permits and lower in EV
charging fees. To understand what a full recovery or X percent of a full recovery might look like,
he wanted the bar charts on Slides 4 and 5 to go back to FY2019 (pre-COVID), which could be
used as a baseline, and he thought it was important to have the in-between years included as
well. Concerning dynamic pricing, he asked why there were no 2024 occupancy numbers. He
asked if there were times of day that 100 percent parking was being approached and the
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reasoning for charging a higher fee if there was not adequate demand. He felt dynamic pricing
was good in principle but was less appropriate when in a low-demand period. He asked if the
pricing on Cal Ave was the same regardless of the garage.
Senior Analyst Shin stated he had to doublecheck exactly what the funding mechanism was, but
revenues did post in the parking funds specifically for electric charging. He explained why the
adopted FY2025 budget showed a projection higher in long-term permits and lower in EV
charging fees. He thought EV charging revenue was now growing at a healthy pace.
Director Kamhi stated that the 2024 occupancy count was done annually and would be later
this month. He noted that moving forward there would also be APS data in some of the
garages. Certain locations had more parking demand than others, and the fee would not be
higher in low-demand areas. He voiced that Cal Ave permits were not purchased for a specific
garage but parking could occur at any garage or lot.
Chair Burt thought that consideration may need to be given to purchasing a permit for a
specific garage on Cal Ave, not parking at any garage. He explained why he was suggesting that
reconsideration be given to the RPP programs. Regarding the RFP going out to the new permit
vendor, he asked if it would be the same vendor and system for the mobile payment or if the
mobile payment would be a different vendor and if it was becoming the norm that vendors
providing the mobile payment would provide a range of capabilities. He thought it was
important to understand who would pay for what when it came to merchant validation. He
wanted to know how Council and Committees could participate in a more informal workshop
discussion with some of the stakeholders.
Director Kamhi answered that the RFP included an option for a mobile payment and to connect
to the APGS systems.
Office of Transportation Planning Manager Nate Baird stated, concerning vendors providing the
mobile payment providing a range of capabilities, that it was highly selective. They put out the
requirements and 30 or so firms viewed them, and they received 3 good bids, so they were
asking for a lot of capability in the vendor. They were looking for vendors to provide more
options than the City was currently able to provide.
Assistant City Manager Nose thought the Committee had provided staff with what they needed
to embark on next steps. As for how Council and Committees could participate in a more
informal workshop discussion with some of the stakeholders, she thought that could be first
done at Retail Committee in November with property owners. The Retail Committee meeting
tomorrow would address options for such a forum. There were rules and regulations around
Brown Act and how such dialogues could be hosted, which could be navigated through at that
meeting.
Chair Burt did not recall procedures and protocols having a procedure for committee study
sessions and requested that it be considered.
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NO ACTION TAKEN
Future Meetings and Agendas: The November 5 Finance Committee meeting is cancelled, and the next
Finance Committee meeting will be on November 19.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 4:15 PM.