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Regular Meeting
December 5, 2023
The Finance Committee of the City of Palo Alto met on this date in the Community Meeting
Room and by virtual teleconference at 5:30 PM.
Present In Person: Burt, Lythcott-Haims, Stone
Present Remotely: None
Absent: None
Call to Order
Chair Burt called the meeting to order.
Assistant City Clerk Vinh Nguyen called roll and declared three were present.
Public Comment
There were no requests to speak.
Action Items
1. Review and Recommend the City Council Accept the FY 2025-2034 Long Range Financial
Forecast and FY 2025 Annual Budget Development Guidelines
Budget Manager Harper noted that this marked the start of the Annual Budget process for the
development of the FY 2025 budget. He displayed slides with an overview of the economy,
which had remained resilient over the past few quarters; however, inflation continued to
remain high. Current projections estimated a period of economic stagnation over the next
several quarters followed by a return to normalized growth trends. Deficits were projected in
the near term. Revenue for business tax and gas equity transfer had been incorporated in the
10-year outlook. Expense projections were based on current approved service levels with
estimated cost increases for salaries, benefits, contracts, and other non-salary expenditure
categories. He provided details related funds in the Uncertainty Reserve. He explained that BSR
was recommended at the 20% level. Based on current projections, major tax revenue was
trending higher than budget, and there was a surplus of approximately $3.4M anticipated in FY
2024. Expenses were tracking at budgeted levels and, as part of the midyear, staff would return
to review budget changes as needed for revenues and expenses. He furnished a slide related to
the economy, which showed strong performance. This slide showed graphs related to GDP and
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CPI. Projections indicated a return to lower GDP or stagnation over several quarters before
returning to a growth period. The CPI graph went back to 2021 and the current national
inflation was about 3.2%, and the Federal Reserve’s target level was about 2% inflation. He
provided a slide highlighting the base case forecast for 2025 through 2034, which he discussed.
Expenses were forecasted to exceed revenues through FY 2029; however, the gap was shrinking
each year. He discussed the one-time gap for FY 2025 being zero when using the uncertainty
Reserve; however, additional services or programs could cause the gap to increase. Staff would
continue to work with Council to explore some one-time funding solutions to bridge gaps as
more information was available.
Assistant City Manager Kiely Nose added that the slide for the base case forecast was important
and was a continuation of the work done by the Committee in May. She noted that a deficit had
been forecasted then, and funds were set aside to support that deficit, and it was planned to
use that funding to solve the imbalance.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims asked if the entirety of the Uncertainty Reserve would be
used.
Assistant City Manager Nose answered that it was not entirely depleted.
Budget Manager Harper stated there was about a $6M deficit, so if $10.1M were put toward
that, there would be about $4.1M and then any uses for deferred midyear items would reduce
it more.
Assistant City Manager Nose detailed that of the $4.1M, $1M was set aside to be dealt at
midyear in 2024, so $3M would remain in the uncertainty reserve. The $3M could be used to
offset 2026’s $5M, which would be a policy call. The long range was intended to show one-time
monies not being used to solve issues, and the variances from estimates were used to adjust
the financial picture on an annual basis, which would be policy calls in the budget process.
Chair Burt added that $3.4M projected for this year was above previous. The Uncertainty
Reserve increasing by $3.4M would depend on actions taken at the midyear budget.
Assistant City Manager Nose confirmed that was correct.
Budget Manager Harper shared slides detailing the major tax revenues, which were
approximately 60% of the General Fund resources. He stated that most tax revenue categories
had returned to pre-pandemic levels as of the FY 2024 budget with the exception of the
Documentary Transfer Tax (DTT) and General Fund Transient Occupancy Tax (TOT). He
discussed the DTT being a volatile revenue source. Overall the TOT had returned to pre-
pandemic levels; however, based on the split of the funding, more was projected to go toward
capital infrastructure than the General Fund. He explained why revenue from property, sales,
and utility users’ taxes were anticipated to exceed the budget in 2024. Additional information
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for revenues by category could be found on Packet Pages 10 and 11 and additional discussion in
Attachment C on Page 31.
Assistant City Manager Nose added that the table had not been adjusted for inflation. If
adjusted, she did not think it could be said that all revenues were at pre-pandemic levels.
Chair Burt suggested using the term pre-pandemic dollar amounts to provide clarification.
Budget Manager Harper stated that, on the expense side, costs for current service levels had
been assumed with increases for salaries and benefits, which he detailed. Reserve had also
been included for potential changes in future labor costs. He explained that the budget
included vacancy savings. He noted that the forecast increased the vacancy estimate from the
previously assumed rate. In past practice, vacancy assumptions were lower than the actual
vacancy rate to allow departmental use of savings for other staffing strategies.
Chair Burt asked for comments related to the trend since looking at the budget in May, as
Council had been struggling to determine what might be a modestly conservative vacancy rate.
Budget Manager Harper was not sure of the trend. They typically used a 3% vacancy rate, and it
had been increased to 5%.
Chair Burt noted it was at 13.5%, which did not mean 8.5% would be available. He asked for an
update of where it was on the expense side compared to the assumptions made when the
budget recommendations were adopted in May. It sounded to him that the vacancy rate was
higher than what had been assumed previously.
Assistant City Manager Nose suggested there be a broader discussion at the end of the
presentation.
Budget Manager Harper expressed that cost for large contracts were in line with contract terms
and then increased by a standard 4% CPI annually, and other non-salary expenditures were
increased by a general 4% CPI with estimates replaced as part of the budget process by the
actual requested increases from departments. Additional information for expenses by category
could be found on Packet Page 13 with additional discussion in Attachment D on Page 40. Along
with the expense estimates in the forecast, there were several assumptions not included, which
were typically referred to as known unknowns, which he outlined. The items were listed
starting on Page 15 of the Memo. He provided information rated to the limited term programs,
and details related to when the programs would end were in the Memo.
Budget Manager Jessie Deschamps discussed the alternative scenarios, the budget guidelines,
and the HSRAP funding referral. She provided slides related to the alternative scenarios to the
base case. She noted that the alternatives were modeled separately to show individual impacts;
however, aspects of both could occur simultaneously. She provided details concerning the
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scenarios related to revenue and expenses. Attachment A included the FY 2025 budget
development guidelines, and she highlighted a few related to developing a balanced budget,
examining uses of surplus funds, reviewing allocations for Council priorities, exploring
alternative service delivery, expanding or adding new revenue sources, and continuing to
proactively fund long-term liabilities. Attachment E included a response to the Council referral.
As part of the review, staff confirmed that previous allocations had not been approved to be
tied to the General Fund Budget, but allocations had been updated based on CPI or direct
allocation as funding was available. She outlined historical average funding and allocations for
HSRAP. She noted that adjusting for certain programs increased the percentage for human
services funding. She noted that it would require an additional $800K annually to reach the
equivalent of 1% of the General Fund Budget in the base case and forecast years. The forecast
recognized revenue trends consistent with economic stagnation followed by growth and was
consistent with a two-balancing strategy initiated in FY 2024. It invested in key priorities and
urgent needs, recognized that alternative scenarios may increase projected shortfalls, and
identified the Uncertainty Reserve and one-time surpluses as necessary. The next steps in the
budget process included a full review of the long-range financial forecast (LRFF) with Council in
January; midyear review in February, which would include additional investments in key
resources and review of objectives that were deferred by Council during adoption of the FY
2024 budget; and in May, the FY 2025 proposed process would begin. She outlined and
supplied a slide with the recommended action.
Public Comment
There were no requests to speak.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims appreciated Chair Burt’s question about vacancy rate. She
inquired how the projected vacancy rate was reflected in the revenue or savings on expenses.
Assistant City Manager Nose answered, related to the vacancy rate, that staff would not be able
to provide satisfying information to the Committee at this meeting. They did not have all the
details in terms of the numbers being requested. She noted that it was an area of follow-up,
and it would be presented to the Full Council in January. As part of midyear, staff would be
prepared for a more thorough conversation. She thought it could be discussed at a macrolevel
at this meeting. She believed there was a vacancy rate in the General Fund of about 13%. The
FY 2024 adopted budget assumed about a 3% vacancy factor, so she thought the Committee
was looking for a projection of the gap with the current volume of vacancies, and staff could
return with more information. The Q1 financial status forecast had not been issued. They
expected that to be an information item to Council in January, which would inform midyear.
Chair Burt thought 5% had been assumed in the budget.
Assistant City Manager Nose clarified that 5% had been assumed in 2023. She discussed that
the long range should remove day-to-day variances and consider current information to help
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make policy decisions from a financial planning perspective. In the annual budget process, the
real numbers would come into play, which would allow for adjustments, spending, and
allocations.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims wanted to know what percentage of the General Fund was
salary and benefits, and she asked if the $3.4M projection of surplus was based on vacancies
and if there would be a bigger surplus if there was not a lot of hiring done.
Budget Manager Harper replied that salary and benefits were about 60% of the General Fund
budget, and there was a 13% vacancy.
Assistant City Manager Nose stated that the $3.4M projection of surplus was revenue and
primarily on the source side, and she detailed what it was based on. She specified why there
would not be a bigger surplus.
Vice Mayor Stone was surprised about the TOT and the return. He questioned what was leading
the change in it being at a pre-pandemic dollar amount and if it was expected to continue and
grow.
Chair Burt indicated that a good part of it was a new supply of hotels. He discussed occupancy
rates.
Budget Manager Harper mentioned that Attachment C outlined hotel revenues.
Vice Mayor Stone noted that there had been previous discussion regarding advertising to
increase vacancies. He queried what the process would be for staff returning to the Committee
with information related to the temporary programs. He wanted a long-term view and strategy
to seek grants, etc., to continue successful temporary programs, such as Link.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims noted that fleet electrification, etc., was not included in the
forecast, and she questioned how such issues had previously been handled.
Assistant City Manager Nose indicated they were highlighted in the Staff Report. The forecast
was intended to reflect actions Council had authorized, which would allow for informed
decisions. The intention of the LRFF was to show what it would look like if everything were to
stay status quo based on current authorizations. They were not in the report to show they
would be cut. They were listed so Council and the Committee would be aware that there
needed to be an action to continue the services, which included a financial impact. Staff
continued to seek grant opportunities, and if materialized, it would be brought forward. From a
planning perspective, without a grant in hand, it was not included in the forecast. Staff would
continue to seek funding for these areas.
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Vice Mayor Stone asked if there was a way to know if programs would have to be discontinued
based on the implications of certain decisions, why the SUMC funding only went through 2027,
and how a process would be developed to discuss ongoing City priorities with Council with the
considered assumptions not being included in the forecast. He was struggling with strategizing
and prioritizing without knowing cost estimates.
City Manager Ed Shikada responded, regarding implications of certain decisions, that only
items consistent with the forecast and direction received would be put on consent. He noted
that it was included in the way the agendas were moved forward. What was before the
Committee reflected prudent financial planning and decision making. An example of strategic
decisions were assumptions for labor agreements, grants, etc.
Budget Manager Harper expressed that the SUMC funding was for PERT, and he believed it only
went through 2027 because the funding would be depleted.
Chair Burt voiced, regarding strategizing and prioritizing, that the LRFF had a range of explicit
numbers each year going out a number of years and that there needed to be humility in
reviewing it. He thought the report indicated certain things would happen, and he believed
qualifiers should be put in the language because there were uncertainties on a variety of levels.
He noted that forecasts always showed long-term deficits, and he thought this forecast was
showing less long-term deficit than the City had had in several years.
Vice Mayor Stone asked if there was an historic margin of error within the projections.
Assistant City Manager Nose answered the budget can swing millions in any given year, and
different Councils had made different policy choices. When staff did the pandemic budget, they
provided Council with three forecasts to be chosen from for planning. Variability was expected.
There had been an audit, which she did not have at this meeting, but it identified areas for
additional detail, but it overall upheld the process and acknowledged there would always be
variability. She pointed out that the forecast was not showing 10 years of deficits. There were
more aggressive estimates, but she credited current and past Council members working hard to
be able to have such a forecast.
Vice Mayor Stone asked Assistant City Manager Nose to return with the audit at a later date.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims inquired if the tier-2 allocation was forecasted.
Assistant City Manager Nose replied that the tier-2 allocation was not forecasted.
Budget Manager Harper commented that the money added last year for tier-2 items was
included because the programs were continuing, but on the known unknown list was a lot of
what had been deferred. If Council wanted to add those, a funding decision would need to be
made.
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Assistant City Manager Nose added that Council and staff were often considering the newest
initiative and dealing with development of the policies and limitations of the programs. In the
$275M General Fund budget were core things, and the City would be remiss if they were to be
removed. She noted that there was probably about $3M in the Uncertainty Reserve and maybe
$3M in excess revenue, depending on the needs at midyear, which she thought was a good
indicator as to the amount of funds the Committee and Council would have for one-time
funding in the upcoming year. Some of the one-time funds could be allocated to cover the 2026
forecasted deficit or allocate to projects or priorities, which were policy decisions to be
embarked on moving into the budget process.
Chair Burt queried if base assumptions going forward would be adjusted for projected surplus
revenue. He discussed the possible reasons for the DTT being conservative. He questioned if the
assessor had provided any information concerning the commercial property tax or if any
adjustments had been made to the assumptions to be more conservative. He asked if there was
a 5- or 10-year averaging of the unbudgeted, unprojected grants and if over time it would give a
better sense based on the average. He specified why it could be a useful information.
Budget Manager Harper confirmed that base assumptions would be adjusted for projected
surplus revenue.
Assistant City Manager Nose noted that the property tax consultant helped inform the property
tax estimates. They did not have details from the county in terms of the actual adjustments
they might make. However, they advised staff to be cautious in the level of growth on the
commercial side, which had been factored in. They had seen an increase in the number of
downward assessments in the property tax from a data perspective. [Inaudible] where there
had been a challenge or the assessor had proactively reduced the assessed value based on
market or challenges. Staff did not have averaging of unbudgeted, unprojected grants. She
specified that oftentimes when a grant was received it was appropriated with the
corresponding expense.
City Manager Shikada thought staff could obtain information related to averaging of
unbudgeted, unprojected grants in preparation for the Full Council discussion. He recalled that
grantsmanship had been ramped up significantly over the last three or so years, and the grants
received for grade separations in the last year or so would make the information appear very
spikey. It may be difficult to break it down by one-time capital project grants versus program
grants, but maybe they could categorize it.
Chair Burt inquired, with respect to the budgeted uses of the business tax, how the
approximately $6M had been built into the projections for transportation and affordable
housing.
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Budget Manager Harper responded that the revenue for transportation had been programmed
to offset costs for the grade separation projects in the Capital Fund.
Chair Burt thought the negotiations with VTA allowed the use of Measure B dollars for the
design and next steps on grade separation.
Budget Manager Harper responded that it had been programmed to use that funding for those
projects. If there was other funding that could be swapped out for it, it could be used, but he
had not heard that as an available option.
Assistant City Manager Nose added that Measure B funding was being separated out by the
crossings and was where staff had started to identify Measure B funds coming into play beyond
the planning phase.
Chair Burt explained why it was positive to hear that it had been budgeted as such. He thought
there should be a future discussion as to what portion of the $3M should be set aside for a
future, even bondable revenue stream for an additional local share and what portion should be
for other transportation projects or services. He queried how the business tax allocation was
used for affordable housing.
Budget Manager Harper voiced that the affordable housing had not been fully allocated. The
business tax was not fully coming in at $3M per piece until calendar year 2025. The funding had
been allocated for eligible expenses.
Chair Burt stated it was good that it was budgeted but not allocated for a specific purpose. He
requested an explanation of how items on the Consent Calendar seemed to be costing more
than projected but were still within the budget.
City Manager Shikada indicated that would not be the case if appropriations were exceeded,
and a specific action requiring additional funding would typically require two-thirds approval by
Council.
Assistant City Manager Nose discussed what staff would do to make adjustments and what
would be done if a contract came in above what had been budgeted, which included absorbing
extra with vacancy savings, for example. If the appropriation needed to be increased, staff
would bring forward an amendment to the budget, which would require a two-thirds vote.
Budget amendments were put on consent but only if they were within the course of the normal
business, which she explained. If it was an ongoing new cost, new priority, it would be put on
action for Council discussion. Things that would materially change the forecast would not be
put on consent, but instead it would be an action item, as it would typically be a policy change.
Chair Burt requested that be explained to Council.
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Council Member Lythcott-Haims asked what the contract limit amount was that could be
brought forward on consent. She felt it would be great to know in an annual cycle how much of
the City’s expenditures were coming through on consent.
City Manager Shikada answered there was not a specific contract limit amount.
Chair Burt remarked that consent items did not come out of the blue. They were part of the set
of operations and the budget and were the fulfillment of what had been adopted in a budget.
City Attorney Molly Stump added that the procedures and protocols provided specifics related
to the consent calendar. Items were on consent because they were routine business previously
approved by Council.
Chair Burt was interested in seeing how this LRFF compared to a series of years over time,
which he thought would be useful for Council to understand it in context. Related to the TOT,
he discussed a history of marketing programs for the business community, and he thought
marketing should be revisited. He suggested reinvesting business taxes paid back into the
business community for transportation to serve greater portions of the business community by
supplying transit passes for modest and lower income employees. He stated that small
businesses had indicated TDM had a positive impact on employee retention. He thought
investing in that should be considered because there would be economic development benefits
and benefits to the community as a whole. He suggested a visitors bureau and making a
contribution to the hotel community to manage the oversight of it, which would be a
public/private partnership. He discussed projections and the national and the Silicon Valley
business environments and it looking as though there may not be a recession. He commented
on the tech economy having a mild recession.
City Manager Shikada stated that addressing marketing programs, a visitors bureau, and
reinvesting in the business community could be included in the midyear budget discussion.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims assumed the unfunded pension liability would achieve the 90%
paydown two years sooner than previously expected. She asked what would be done
differently when 90% was reached.
Assistant City Manager Nose would have to confirm if the unfunded pension liability would
achieve the 90% paydown two years sooner than previously expected. She did not think
anything would be done differently when 90% was reached. The measures being done were to
help ensure there would be no spike or volatility in a LRFF on an annual basis.
Chair Burt inquired if there would be a decline in the needed investment. He hoped when 90%
was reached that more dollars would be available for capital investment and services as
opposed to pensions.
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Assistant City Manager Nose commented that the pending funding policy had been expanded
to be a long-term liability policy, and it encompassed OPEB, retiree medical, and proactive
pension funding. In theory, reaching 90% would mean moving to a more normal cost level. She
stated that things would remain status quo because it was already included in all the forecasts.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims referenced Packet Page 44 and stated that it implied that
within the context of the 10-year plan, the City would find that it has completed the work quite
well.
Chair Burt stated that Council Member Lythcott-Haims was correct. The projection did not
factor in accelerating the process by having essentially budget surpluses at the end of the year
that would be divided between allocating to capital and allocating to this. He stated that likely
that date would be beat.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims inquired if more should be allocated to HSRAP or if it should be
fixed to a percentage of the General Fund.
Vice Mayor Stone liked the consistency of looking forward to the 31% marker. Going to 1%
concerned him given the projections, but he was interested in a policy fixing it to a percentage
of the General Fund.
Chair Burt asked if 0.8 was based upon the difference of 0.83% and 1%.
Budget Manager Harper referenced the table for FY 2025, and stated that about $2.1M was
projected for total human services funding. To get to 1% of the $282M budget, about $800K
would need to be added to it, so the total funding would be at about $2.9M.
Vice Mayor Stone suggested increasing it to 0.5% of the budget as a compromise.
Chair Burt assumed that would be about $600K, and he indicated it would be a referral from
this Committee to Council for policy discussion. He noted that the Finance Committee would
not typically meet in January, but if a policy change moved forward, it would allow a carryover
of existing committee compositions until new committees were appointed. There could be a
January meeting for a deeper discussion. He did not know if a referral would be made for
midyear, so maybe it did not need to be that soon. If it were to be a recommendation for the FY
2025 budget, the Committee needed to have that discussion early enough so staff could
incorporate that input into their budget planning. He asked staff for thoughts on the process.
Assistant City Manager Nose responded that the natural point would be to make a
recommendation at the Committee and then take it to the Full Council for the long-range
discussion. She did not think staff could meet that time line. If the Committee were to review it
in February and then get formal Council direction by early March, that would be the absolute
last date staff would be able to enter it into the budget. She remarked that it had been
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discussed in 2016 with strong opposition. She stated it would constrain planning on an annual
basis that may not be anticipated until it was too late. Regarding policies, she explained that
HSRAP was considered when reviewing allocation of surpluses, for example, which provided
flexibility.
Chair Burt stated that supplemental HSRAP funding had been given previously, and an annual
number had gone to HRC. He asked if that number had been adjusted for inflation.
Assistant City Manager Nose answered that inflation was adjusted for every year. There was a
set number, but to make it a policy that it be a percentage of the General Fund could have
implications, which could lead to a labor-intensive activity of normalizing and adjusting. The
General Fund could change any given year because of one-time monies, grants, etc. She noted
that her comments were connected to the prior Committee conversation.
Chair Burt expressed there needed to be a deeper discussion regarding a fixed percentage if it
was to be increased and that there needed to be continuity in funding. He remarked that
HSRAP funding did not typically vary year to year other than an increase last year, which was on
a one-time basis. Chair Burt commented on the cons of not fixing a percentage. He thought
there was an important policy decision to be made.
Council Member Lythcott-Haims thought Avenidas and PACCC (Palo Alto Community Childcare)
were in very different circumstances than all the others under HSRAP and that all the others
were not being funded at the level they had requested. She noted that historically more of the
General Fund had gone to HSRAP. She discussed the pros for pegging HSRAP to the General
Fund. She supported there being further discussion.
Discussion ensued related to further discussing the issue, and the Committee decided to make
it a continued referral.
Vice Mayor Stone agreed with Chair Burt and Council Member Lythcott-Haims’ comments.
MOTION: Council Member Lythcott-Haims moved, seconded by Vice Mayor Stone to
recommend that the City Council accept the Fiscal 2025-2034 Long Range Financial Forecast
Base Case and the FY 2025 Budget Development Guidelines (Attachment A) and direct staff to
use this forecast as the starting point for the initiation of the FY 2025 budget process.
MOTION PASSED: 3-0
2. Information Item: Calendar Year (CY) 2023 Finance Committee Referrals Status
Assistant City Manager Kiely Nose declared that staff did not have a presentation. This was an
annual report to provide the Committee with the status of outstanding referrals. Many were
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complete and some in progress or pending future actions. HSRAP would be edited to be
continued in February.
Vice Mayor Stone queried if there was a typo of it being complete and if it was instead intended
to be in progress.
Assistant City Manager Nose replied it was not a typo in the sense that staff brought the
conversation back to the Committee. Usually the Committee would make a final decision, so
staff probably should have said pending the Committee’s recommendation.
Chair Burt noted that there was an issue of the ticketing process as well as the pricing related to
JMZ. He asked for the status.
Assistant City Manager Nose stated that CSD had a consultant under contract. They had been
actively doing interviews of stakeholders for JMZ, and they expected the report in the new
calendar year. It would then be brought back for the Committee’s review. New funding had
been provided for a new ticketing system. She needed to find out if that procurement had been
done.
Future Meetings and Agendas
Chair Burt declared that a January meeting had not been scheduled. HSRAP funding would
potentially be in February.
Assistant City Manager Kiely Nose stated that in February preliminary utility rate forecasts
would typically be discussed. The Utilities team was working on those, but it would depend on
the timing with the UAC review as well.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 7:15 P.M.