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Special Meeting
September 6, 2022
The Finance Committee of the City of Palo Alto met on this date in the
Community Meeting Room and by virtual teleconference at 5:30 P.M.
Present In-Person: None
Present Virtually: Council Member Tom DuBois (Chair), Council
Member Eric Filseth, Vice Mayor Lydia Kou
Absent: None
Chair Tom DuBois invited the public to comment. No one was present to
comment.
Oral Communications:
None
Agenda Items
1. Review the FY 2022 Junior Museum and Zoo Update, Including
Scenarios for a Fully Cost Recoverable Program
Community Services Director Kristen O’Kane presented on the operations
status of the Junior Museum & Zoo (JMZ) since opening in November 2021
and scenarios on a fully cost recoverable program as directed by the City
Council in May 2020. They originally presented to the Finance Committee in
March 2020 a $10 ticket price with a range of membership fees but came
back with an $18 ticket fee as a budget reduction strategy due to the
financial impacts of the pandemic. Staff directed them to return with a
report on the JMZ 6 months after it opened with an idea of what it would
look like to eliminate the General Fund subsidy through a fully cost
recoverable program. One year later and after discussion with Friends of the
Junior Museum & Zoo and reevaluation of the ticket price, they discussed
with the Finance Committee the $18 ticket price was too high and would
harm attendance and limit accessibility. In June 2021, Council approved a
$10 ticket price as part of the FY 2022 Adopted Budget with the intention for
an October 2021 opening date.
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JMZ opened in November 2021 and was open weekends only for the first 2
months. Beginning in January, it was opened on a regular schedule of
Tuesday through Sunday. Cost recovery was estimated at 65 percent and
came in at 54 percent. Factors for this difference include different than
anticipated trends and impacts out of their control including COVID-19
surges and minimal facility rentals due in part to staffing deficiencies. There
was also an issue of members overbooking reservations and then not using
them and then tickets went unused and this contributed to not meeting
revenue expectation. Some expenses tracked lower than anticipated due to
salary savings, contracts and supplies savings, and lower than estimated
allocated charges.
Management Analyst Karina Alvarez stated the actual cost recovery level
was less than anticipated but they saw an increase in ticket sales,
memberships, and facility rentals. Revenue from summer camps was
captured through June 30, 2022. Facility rentals were at a standstill most of
the year due to COVID-19 but there was an increase for rentals from April
through June. She noted memberships were to residents and came in a lot
higher than what was estimated as part of the adopted budget. Scenarios
using FY 2023 financials as the baseline only capture an increase in ticket
and membership prices as they were the highest revenue generated in FY
2022. The membership price increases $1 by scenario to stay within the
100-percent cost recovery threshold. The $18 scenario is a high price as it
assumes no change in membership prices yet achieves a cost recovery level
of about 104 percent. For the FY 2023 Adopted Budget, the JMZ did not
increase ticket or membership prices as there was uncertainty with COVID-
19 and limited data to understand the impact of a ticket price increase on
the community. Facility rentals continue to do well but it is uncertain what
the revenue trends for rentals will look like, so Staff will continue tracking
expenses and revenues to make the appropriate recommendations in the
future.
Director O’Kane said visitor experience could be limited by the avian flu and
staffing. Currently all birds are being kept away from visitors for the birds’
safety, but different animal experiences are planned. Regarding staffing, JMZ
is having high turnover, difficulty hiring part-time staff, and difficulty
recruiting qualified candidates and retaining current staff. Fewer staff mean
less service, assistance to visitors, and animal care. She said Staff is not
recommending any fee increases at this time. If direction is given for higher
cost recovery, Staff would recommend developing a road map to get there.
As FY 2024 budget proposals are being developed, Staff will take another
look and consider a gradual increase and other ways to increase revenues.
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Council Member Eric Filseth wondered what revenues will look like in Fiscal
2023, not just the Adopted Budget. He said the current plan increases
expenses by $1.3M. The Fiscal 2022 revenue came in about $800,000 short.
He asked if the expense line would be increased by $1.25M, there must be
confidence that total revenue will be where it is instead of $1.476M again.
He commented that membership has been a big win. The main revenue
source has been memberships, classes, and camps and the shortfall has
been walk-ins. He said even though memberships look ahead of schedule
and 50-percent more were sold than anticipated, it didn’t look like it
cannibalized a lot of the walk-ins. He said it looked like walk-ins were low
and asked why that was. He questioned how much they were losing to lines
and people not able to get appointments, and he said getting more people to
come is key. Council Member Filseth asked if they had a better projection of
visitor counts in Fiscal 2023.
Palo Alto Junior Museum & Zoo Museum Community Manager John Aikin said
the pandemic is the wild card and it is hard to assess how people will react
with another variant. Members make up 50 percent of JMZ visitors, which is
a high percentage, and they have unlimited tickets currently. He suspects
they are poaching from available general tickets holders.
Council Member Filseth said it looked like they were $600,000 short on
revenues from general admission visits and he perceived $100,000 of that
was poached.
Manager Aikin said they have limited capacity which will always be a
struggle and part of it is due to membership pricing, ticket pricing, and who
the members are.
Council Member Filseth asked for the number of visits a week currently.
Manager Aikin said it varies with weekdays lower than weekends. At full
capacity, they get about 500 per session and up to 900 people. He added
that numbers vary with the months. Early summer numbers were high. He
said it is currently the slow time and today it was empty due to the heat.
Council Member Filseth said it is best to look at what’s going on right now
because last year’s numbers were skewed by JMZ being closed for a third of
the year.
Chair DuBois said he heard JMZ was maxed out when school was out.
Manager Aikin said it was partly that and parents are getting into a new
routine as kids go back to school. He added that September has always been
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the slowest month but it will go up so that November and December become
some of the highest months.
Chair DuBois asked if they sold out every day in June, July, and August.
Manager Aikin confirmed this was the case with the exception of some
Tuesdays they didn’t fill. He said the challenge was members overbooking
and those tickets had to be resold. He stated they have shifted to online
purchasing because it makes prediction a lot easier, and they can open
spaces to members to get tickets that day. He said it is working really well
and lines are down but there is still a throughput issue where they are
limited by their ticketing system to do 3 [inaudible 25:38] a day. If they
could do that every 10 minutes, they could circulate people through the
building more efficiently and thus, they are looking at a new ticketing
system.
Council Member Filseth asked about the ability to increase the capacity of
visitors at one time.
Manager Aikin said it depended on arrival and departure times. They know
on average how long people stay and entry every 10 minutes is the most
efficient way to move the maximum number of people through.
Council Member Filseth asked how many visits there would be a week if they
got rid of all limits.
Manager Aikin said they do not have that data because they have not been
able to do that. He added there is an issue with overcrowding and parents
start to complain when the exhibit hall gets too many people. Not managing
the crowds may drive revenue and ticket sales down in the long run.
Council Member Filseth said there were no easy choices. He didn’t know how
they could grow the expense line without more visibility on what revenues
will be. He conceded it is not a good time to raise ticket prices unless the
membership rate is doubled. He asked about the revenue on memberships.
Manager Aikin said there are 3000 members at an average of $200 each.
Council Member Filseth said more walk-ins are needed but if prices for them
are raised, they won’t get as many. He wondered what else is getting in the
way of walk-ins, like not enough slots. He said it is a lousy time to raise
ticket prices as they have removed the birds from exhibits. Regarding
expenses, he asked who allocated charges go from $150,000 this year to
$900,000 next year.
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Administrative Services Director Kiely Nose said the estimates in the budget
were developed based on past expenses for that division. When they were
developing the budget, they did not have the $150,000 figure. She
suspected it had to do with how charges were being allocated once the
facility was up and running and that will be investigated for FY 2023 as well
as the 2024 budget development.
Council Member Filseth said ultimately it will come from the gas transfer.
Director Nose said the allocated charges were things like utilities, janitorial
services, and other back-end areas that have to do with consumption and
frequency of the service. She said that will be tracked to ensure appropriate
allocation of charges through 2023 and as part of the 2024 budget process.
Council Member Filseth asked about non-personnel expenses that went from
$200,000 to $400,000.
Manager Aikin was not aware of that. He said they have not been able to
spend their non-staff charges due to lack of staffing to manage the contracts
to run the facility the way it’s envisioned. Until they get full staffing, it’s hard
to have the time to pull those contracts together, and he stated it just hasn’t
been done.
Council Member Filseth says it doesn’t work if they’re only getting 60,000
visits a year.
Vice Mayor Lydia Kou asked if non-personnel expenses are mostly
maintenance matters.
Manager Aikin stated animal staff care for the animal habitats but
contracting services need to be brought in every year to bolster efforts and
include structural pruning of trees.
Chair DuBois asked if it included expenses for feeding the animals.
Manager Aikin replied that was included as well as marketing expenses, non-
capital tools and equipment, and other things involved with managing
exhibits and animal habitats.
Director Nose clarified Manager Aikin was speaking to expenses in FY 2023.
Regarding the $200,000 seen in the 2022 table, all those expenses were not
prorated because some of it is for feeding the animals and they did not know
when the animals would come in, but they knew they would be fed prior to
the JMZ opening. She stated there was a discrepancy between when things
were opened and came online versus what was budgeted. She said it was
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important to track all expenses while moving through FY 2023. They didn’t
have the experience to know what the facility would need in general utilities
and now question if utility costs are appropriately allocated now the facility is
open. Numbers will be refined moving through this fiscal year now they have
some data, and she expected they would be able to report any novel
findings as part of the midyear budget review as they would have 6 months
of data by that point in this fiscal year and almost a full year of data.
Vice Mayor Kou asked about the facility rental revenue, actuals and adopted,
from 2022 and the confidence that facility rentals will increase to $200,000
in the upcoming year.
Director O’Kane said the number from the actuals is not a full year of
reporting and it also took them a while before they felt confident opening the
facility for rentals for parties, meeting, and events. She said there was a
major shift in operations of the facility going from non-ticketed to ticketed,
so they were not able to offer a lot of rentals right away. They first focused
on providing the best visitor experience and then began opening it up for
rentals. Moving forward, they will be able to do more of that and investigate
corporate rentals and ramping up the ability to offer more facility rentals.
Vice Mayor Kou asked about lower-income visitors and the cost of the
discounted entrance fee.
Manager Aikin replied discounted admission is $3 a ticket, which is aligned
with a national program called Museums for All and the maximum they can
charge as part of that program. About 7 to 8 percent of ticketed people are
asking for discounts due to income or disability. There is also a reciprocal
membership program with the Association of Children’s Museums which also
results in a discounted ticket.
Vice Mayor Kou asked if a program could be created to help people who have
difficulty paying. She didn’t want people to miss out on learning
opportunities that could make a lasting impression. She questioned if it
would be beneficial for the foundation to consider a pricing and revenue
optimization expert to look at the best path forward.
Chair DuBois invited members of the public to comment.
1) Jonathan Erman said it was disturbing to read about the expense put
into building the JMZ and then see the ticket prices raised. He said it
seems to have been successful considering COVID. He lamented the
creation of a subscription model for the zoo and said it appeared the
Committee is upset it has been more successful than anticipated.
Raising ticket prices makes it harder for individuals to experience the
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zoo. He said the Committee is seeing revenue they didn’t have before
but feel it isn’t enough and want more.
Chair DuBois asked for clarification around staffing challenges and if there
was a proposal on that. He asked if they were thinking of changing part-time
positions to full time.
Director O’Kane said people will chose a full-time position with someone else
over an hourly position with JMZ, and they have experienced their hourly
staff leaving for full-time positions at other institutions. They also have had
people relocate out of the area. They currently have a 14-percent vacancy
rate at the JMZ. One challenge is they have not experienced the new JMZ
fully staffed. She stated Manager Aikin has a vision in place on what is
needed once they are fully staffed, and those changes could be proposed
next fiscal year.
Chair DuBois asked about leveraging volunteers to supplement staff.
Director O’Kane stated there are volunteers in place and they are working to
get more to assist, especially with visitor services. She didn’t think it worked
for animal care positions.
Chair DuBois asked if retention was a separate issue and if salaries were too
low or if there were other issues.
Director O’Kane said it was a matter of not having enough full-time
positions.
Manager Aikin added that volunteers and staff are there for the work and
they love what the JMZ does. Salary is important in terms of living costs, but
they tend to be on the low side around the Bay Area. They actually pay
higher than some institutions for some positions and are average for others.
He stated it is hard to live there on a half-time salary with multiple jobs and
no healthcare.
Chair DuBois asked if the subsidy on this year’s budget went up from $1.2M
to $1.3M, which was confirmed by Director Nose.
Chair DuBois asked if the max capacity of the venue was 500 people, which
was confirmed by Manager Aikin. He asked if people have been turned away
if they cannot get in.
Manager Aikin said there were more problems with lines before they moved
to online ticketing. Currently tickets can be bought in front of the JMZ and
there are volunteers and staff to assist. He said it is not a problem and
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people get their tickets online and come in and it is a better service for
nearly everyone. They help people that walk in.
Chair DuBois asked if other places reserve time slots.
Manager Aikin said the venue is ½ acre and the larger institutions do not
have capacity issues. JMZ must manage capacity, and this will likely
continue.
Chair DuBois said the issue is less about pricing and more about simplifying
the process and not trying to run it like an airline. He asked if the
reservation system could be removed and instead reach a certain visitor
threshold and then not let people in until some left.
Manager Aikin said the ticketing system is the solution. They cannot track
members and their actual tickets right now, but they will with a different
system.
Chair DuBois urged staff to think about getting rid of the reservations and
manage capacity by counting at the door. He said now may be a good time
to do that as it is the slowest time of the year. Regarding membership
benefits, it doesn’t mention prioritization for reservations. He suggested
charging a fee if they didn’t show up to make people not overbook.
Manager Aikin said the current ticketing system does not allow members to
cancel their reservations. It must be done by a staff person.
Chair DuBois said the discussion has been useful. He said the question is
what level of subsidy do they expect to see every year and what do they
need to budget for.
Council Member Filseth felt he didn’t have enough information to
recommend a price change one way or the other. He said a lot hinges on the
number of visitors per year and they don’t have any confidence in knowing
what that number is. He thought it was important to not turn people away.
He asked if the entry process needs to be the same on busy holiday
weekends as on weekdays during the school year. He encouraged staff to
look at that because it is important for everyone who wants to come to the
JMZ to be able to.
Director O’Kane agreed with Council Member Filseth. She stated they would
like to have a better idea of what the future holds, but they opened JMZ at
the beginning of a pandemic which is still going on.
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Council Member Filseth said it could be done top down or bottom up. So far,
the approach has been top down and now that it’s open and they’re charging
admission, there is an opportunity for a bottom-up approach. They could
take what they’re seeing now as a baseline and extrapolate from there and
then top-down it and see where they meet.
Chair DuBois said once they understood seasonality throughout the year, if
they had a bottom-up model, hopefully they would detect pretty early if they
were falling behind in terms of being at capacity. He asked if advertising has
been done since the launch.
Manager Aikin said they have a marketing contract to do online marketing,
but it takes a while to ramp up. They plan to place surgically precise ads in
the market aimed at first-time families to try to fill in gaps during the
weekdays. They also have some other events and education programs that
will be marketed as well.
Chair DuBois said advertising could be ramped up as needed depending on
the needs throughout the year.
Manager Aikin estimated end-of-year totals look like 123,000 but changing
the ticketing system would change their ability to move people through at a
different rate and he could not predict the effects of that or of the pandemic.
Management Analyst Alvarez asked if this was going to Council as an action
item.
Director Nose said this is Staff following through on a referral from the City
Council. Since the Finance Committee works through the Council body, a
motion will need to be made by the Committee. She said a valid motion
could be that the report is forwarded to Council as an information report for
advisement of completion of the referral as well as a status check. An action
is not required, and she said all parties would agree that additional time
would be helpful in doing a bottom-up analysis.
Chair DuBois said they could accept the report on consent rather than an
information report. He said if they will not be raising the price, they should
say they accept the 65-percent cost recovery for this budget year to be
explicit that they are not pushing for 100-percent cost recovery this year.
Vice Mayor Kou asked if the report will include further recommendations
from the Finance Committee when there is overbooking and perhaps a
penalty of a certain amount and the other suggestions made by Council
Member Filseth.
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Council Member Filseth said he would love to see a chart of weekly visit
tallies from the last 9 months.
Director O’Kane said it may be an administrative burden to issue a fee to
visitors who didn’t show up for their scheduled time. She preferred to
investigate it and address that in the Staff report when it goes to Council.
MOTION: Council Member DuBois moved, seconded by Council Member
Filseth to recommend the City Council forward the acceptance of this report
to Council and recommends Council direct staff to maintain the current cost
recovery levels until staff returns with updated attendance data,
recommendations on ticket reservations, and proposed ticket prices.
MOTION PASSED: 3-0
Future Meetings and Agendas
Director Nose said they expect to have the transmittal of the City’s annual
CalPERS actuary reports as part of the September 20 Finance Committee
Meeting.
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 6:29 P.M.