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Special Meeting
May 2, 2019
Mayor Filseth called the meeting to order at 5:09 P.M. in the Community
Meeting Room, 250 Hamilton Avenue, Palo Alto, California.
Present: DuBois, Filseth (Chair), Kniss
Absent:
Oral Communications
None.
Agenda Items
1. Review of Responses to Request for Proposals (RFP) for an Evaluation
of Organizational and Resource Options for the City Auditor’s Office
and Discussion of Recommendations to the City Council.
Adrian Brown, Chief Procurement Officer, reported the Council Appointed
Officers Committee (Committee) individually should have scored the
responses to the Request for Proposals (RFP). The Committee may have
brief conversations about their scores and areas where their assessments
disagreed.
Council Member DuBois requested clarification of the scoring process. He
inquired whether there were three ratings for Proposal Number 1.
Mr. Brown reviewed the criteria for the proposers.
Council Member DuBois noted the first table on Page 2 contained the three
ratings for Proposal Number 1. He asked if the rows were in a different
order than shown on the scoring sheet.
Beth Minor, City Clerk, replied yes. When the information was uploaded to
PlanetBids, one of the sections, Quality of the Proposal, was inadvertently
omitted. Consequently, Staff inserted the section at the bottom of the bid.
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Council Member DuBois advised that he had rated each category on a scale
of 1-10. He was attempting to identify the evaluator number assigned to
him by the points shown in the tables.
Cassie Coleman, Assistant City Attorney, indicated each criteria had a
weight, which was the maximum point score.
Council Member DuBois clarified that he was Evaluator Number 2.
Ms. Coleman asked if Council Member DuBois weighted the criteria at a
maximum of 10.
Council Member DuBois noted that he had scored Criterion 1 as a 5. He
thought his weights and scores were correct. When it said a weight of 5, the
total score could be 50. Each criterion could be rated from 1 to 10 and then
weighted.
Mr. Brown reported giving a criterion a score of 10 in a 5 point system would
cause the criterion to receive the full 5 points.
Ms. Coleman explained that the maximum scoring for the first criterion was
25.
Council Member DuBois clarified that the scale was 1-10, and the weight was
5.
Ms. Coleman stated there was no 1-10 scale for Criteria 1, 2, 5, 6. Those
criteria could receive a maximum of 5 points.
Council Member DuBois asked how the score could reach 50 points.
Ms. Coleman suggested the weighted score was multiplied by 10, but she did
not know what the weighting was based on.
Council Member DuBois suggested a score of 10 would be multiplied by a
weight of 5 to reach 50 points.
Ms. Minor related that the scoring sheet listed the maximum number of
points for each criterion. Council Member DuBois' scoring had remained
within the parameters of those numbers.
Council Member DuBois inquired whether the proposal numbers matched
those given to the Committee.
Ms. Minor responded yes.
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Council Member DuBois noted he had ranked Proposer Number 5 second
highest, but that was not shown in the scores for Evaluator Number 2, if he
was Evaluator Number 2.
Ms. Minor indicated Council Member DuBois' second highest ranking was
given to Proposer Number 3 based on the information he submitted
electronically.
Chair Filseth noted Council Member DuBois and he had ranked Proposer
Number 2 the highest. Council Member Kniss rated Proposer Number 1 the
highest with Proposer Number 2 a close second. He suggested the
Committee discuss Proposer Numbers 1 and 2.
Council Member DuBois indicated he had ranked Proposer Number 1 fifth.
Chair Filseth requested the proposer Council Member DuBois had ranked
second.
Council Member DuBois responded Proposer Number 3.
Council Member Kniss requested the amount Proposer Number 2 charged
because she knew the proposers by the amount they charged.
Chair Filseth replied $25,000.
Council Member Kniss suggested the Committee not consider the last three
proposers.
Council Member DuBois suggested the Committee drop the three proposers
with the lowest total scores.
Mayor Filseth noted the three proposers with the lowest total scores were
Proposer Numbers 3, 4, and 5.
Council Member Kniss did not see any problem with Proposer Number 2. In
fact, she was enthused about Proposer Number 2 because the proposal was
not pages long.
Mayor Filseth concurred.
Council Member Kniss indicated she had ranked Proposer Number 2 second.
Proposer Number 2 had done some work close to home.
Council Member DuBois noted a big difference between financial auditing
companies. There were a couple of very large CPA firms, who listed many
projects. He did not believe the Committee was looking for a CPA firm.
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Some of the firms were more organization or management consultants. In
Proposal Number 2, the price was directly related to hours. Proposer
Number 2 had estimated 120 hours.
Council Member Kniss felt Proposal Number 4 was rather dramatic.
Council Member DuBois related that part of that was working out the
statement of work. He inquired whether 120 hours was accurate compared
to the high-end one. If the proposer talked to Staff, the number would
probably be less. He liked that the company was fairly small, 12 people, and
had worked for 30 years in California. Proposer Number 2 appeared to have
conducted some performance auditing.
Council Member Kniss remarked that Proposer Number 2 was close to home,
and its proposal was personalized and did not have a lot of unnecessary
information.
MOTION: Chair Filseth moved, seconded by Council Member DuBois to
recommend the City Council select Proposal Number 2.
Chair Filseth agreed with prior comments regarding Proposer Number 2. All
the proposers were capable of this work; therefore, cost was a factor.
Proposer Number 2 most closely matched the statement of work. The task
seemed too small or simple for the large firms.
Council Member Kniss liked that someone would personally conduct the
review.
Council Member DuBois asked how the Council would manage the Auditor's
Office and this contract. As part of the statement of work, the proposer
would come to the City. The Auditor's Office was on its own for the day-to-
day stuff.
Chair Filseth believed a shorter and simpler engagement would be better in
that type of environment.
MOTION PASSED: 3-0
Chair Filseth asked if the proposals would be presented to the Council.
Council Member DuBois inquired whether the Committee could discuss the
work plan in more detail once it selected a proposer.
Mr. Brown advised that the committee would refine the scope of services
and could assist in negotiating a contract.
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Rumi Portillo, Human Resources (HR) Director, reported Staff would assist
Mayor Filseth with negotiating the scope of work and contract. Staff could consult with the City Attorney's Office on contract negotiation and scope of
work.
Council Member DuBois suggested the Committee review Proposal Number 2
for any concerns.
Council Member Kniss asked which part of the proposal he wished to review.
Council Member DuBois replied the Work Plan on Page 8.
Council Member Kniss inquired whether the Committee could learn Proposer
Number 2's name.
Mr. Brown answered yes.
Chair Filseth commented that if the proposal needed to go to the Council,
the proposal may need to be blind.
Council Member Kniss asked if the Council would vote on it.
Ms. Minor indicated the Committee's recommendation regarding the
company and a contract would be presented to the Council. The Council
would not have an opportunity to discuss all the proposals.
Mr. Brown recommended the Committee keep the name confidential in case
negotiations broke down.
Chair Filseth felt the Committee could learn the names.
Ms. Portillo reported the City Attorney's Office had prepared an overview of
the evaluation process. The Committee could discuss and decide whether to
designate a representative to negotiate and prepare a contract for
presentation to the City Council. The Committee would probably want to
engage in discussions with Proposer Number 1 about entering into a
contract. The Committee may want to agree that Mayor Filseth would be the
Committee's designee and to select a Staff member as the Committee's
designated representative to carry out the administrative functions. The
Staff member could be someone from the Human Resources (HR)
Department or from Purchasing. The Committee may review the scope of
work and comment. It had been suggested that the HR Department not be
involved in the RFP. A department that was not subject to an audit by the
City Auditor should be involved in the RFP. Purchasing could be involved
because it had oversight of the procurement process for the City. The City
Clerk's office was exempt from auditing.
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Chair Filseth suggested he could work with the City Clerk's office.
Council Member DuBois inquired whether the Committee should select an
alternate proposer.
Council Member Kniss reiterated her desire to learn the name of the
proposer.
Ms. Coleman indicated if conversations with the proposer went well, the City
would issue an intent to award notice. At that point, the proposer would be
named and the records would become public.
Council Member Kniss inquired whether the Committee's decision was
confidential.
Mr. Brown related that the name would remain confidential until Staff and
Chair Filseth held discussions with the proposer. Normally, the name
remained confidential until a contract was placed on the Council's Agenda.
Under this scenario, the City could negotiate more favorably with the
proposer.
Council Member DuBois noted the Work Plan of Proposal Number 2 included
five hours of meeting with City officials. He asked with whom the proposer
should meet.
Council Member Kniss questioned whether the Committee or the
Committee's designees should determine that.
Mr. Brown indicated the negotiations would be different from refining the
scope of services. Once Staff felt the firm was acceptable, Staff would work
with the Committee to refine the scope of services.
Council Member Kniss inquired whether Staff rather than the Committee
would meet with the proposer.
Mr. Brown advised that the Committee could be involved in the
conversations because the City Auditor reported directly to the Committee.
Perhaps after a conversation with the proposer, only three hours of meetings
would be needed. In that case, Staff and the Committee could refine the
scope of work to three hours of meeting.
Council Member Kniss asked if the Committee should refine the scope of
work at the current time or after a conversation with the proposer.
Chair Filseth suggested the Committee's designees would suggest revisions
to the scope of work.
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Council Member DuBois felt the Committee should drive the scope of work
through policy decisions. He inquired whether the proposer would meet with
the Acting City Auditor or the former City Auditor.
Council Member Kniss presumed it would be the Acting City Auditor.
Council Member DuBois commented that there could be some value in
speaking with the former City Auditor to understand the issues with the
Auditor's Office.
Chair Filseth related that there was no guarantee the former City Auditor
would meet with the proposer.
Council Member Kniss felt a meeting with the former City Auditor would
defeat the purpose of an evaluation of the office.
Council Member DuBois asked if the proposer should meet with the
Committee, Committee designees, or the City Manager.
Council Member Kniss suggested the proposer could spend an hour or two
with elected officials. Three elected officials, the Committee, could meet
with the proposer simultaneously. Certainly, the City Manager should be
involved and perhaps the City Attorney.
Ms. Coleman inquired whether the proposer should meet with Council-
Appointed Officers or all elected officials.
Council Member Kniss responded all Council Appointed Officers with the
exception of the City Clerk.
Council Member DuBois suggested the proposer meet once with the
Committee, with the City Manager, and maybe with Ms. Portillo.
Mr. Brown advised that if additional hours were needed for meetings and the
proposal remained within range, the Committee could increase the meeting
hours. The Committee needed to decide with whom the proposer would
meet.
Council Member Kniss believed the proposer should meet with the
Committee, the City Manager, the City Attorney, and the Acting City Auditor.
Council Member DuBois requested the rationale for the proposer not meeting
with Ms. Portillo.
Council Member Kniss recalled Ms. Portillo stating the HR Department should
not be involved.
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Council Member DuBois clarified that the HR Department should not be
involved in negotiating the contract.
Ms. Portillo agreed to participate in a meeting to the extent that HR's
perspective regarding the proposer's experience could be helpful. The
concerns regarding HR's involvement pertained to negotiating and managing
the contract.
Chair Filseth believed the intent of the evaluation was to determine the
industry's standard practices and apply them to the City Auditor's Office.
Council Member DuBois viewed the evaluation as an organizational
evaluation to benchmark the City Auditor's Office and to understand the
current situation. Meeting with Ms. Portillo would be useful, but speaking
with the City Attorney may not be useful.
Council Member Kniss remarked that the City Attorney knew considerably
more than just the legal aspects.
Chair Filseth added that the proposer could have ideas about officials it
needed to meet.
Council Member DuBois questioned whether Alameda, Berkeley, and San
Jose were appropriate cities for benchmarking. They seemed large in
comparison to Palo Alto.
Mr. Brown commented that the proposer may have conducted audits of
those cities.
Council Member DuBois suggested Chair Filseth inquire regarding cities
closer to the size of Palo Alto during a meeting with the proposer.
Council Member Kniss remarked that the proposer probably had worked with
many cities the size of Palo Alto.
Council Member DuBois asked if the Committee wanted the proposer to
recommend organizational structure and other improvements.
Chair Filseth questioned whether the Committee wanted recommendations
or options and analysis.
Council Member Kniss noted the proposer had been an elected city auditor.
Mr. Brown reported Chair Filseth, Ms. Minor, and he could describe the City's
refined scope of work during a preliminary discussion, and the proposer
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could adjust its proposal as needed. After receiving a revised proposal,
contract negotiations could begin.
Council Member Kniss asked if the three designees would return to the
Committee with a revised proposal.
Mr. Brown indicated the designees could present a refined scope of work to
the Committee after a discussion with the proposer.
Council Member DuBois noted the quick timeline for executing a contract.
He preferred the Committee refine the scope of work at the current time.
Council Member Kniss believed it could be beneficial for the Committee's
designees to refine the scope of work with the proposer and present the
refined scope of work to the Committee.
Council Member DuBois would agree as long as the refined scope could be
accomplished quickly.
Chair Filseth requested other concerns that the Committee's designees
should address with the proposer.
Council Member DuBois felt the Committee should state specifically the
recommendations that the proposer should make. Proposal Number 2 was
good, but the final recommendation was vague.
Chair Filseth did not envision the proposer making many recommendations.
The proposer would present some data and pros and cons, and the
Committee would sort through that.
Council Member DuBois wanted a recommendation for organization, staffing,
and the expected performance of the Auditor's Office. One proposal he
favored included a recommendation of future allocation responsibilities,
location of operations, staffing and resourcing, and practices to implement.
Chair Filseth inquired regarding a possible date to meet with the proposer.
Mr. Brown suggested the following week at the earliest.
Chair Filseth requested a meeting as soon as mutually convenient.
Mr. Brown agreed to contact the proposer and learn its available dates and
provide those to Chair Filseth and the City Clerk.
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Council Member DuBois understood the proposer had some concerns about
the liability requirement. He inquired whether the City generally changed
the liability clauses within contracts.
Mr. Brown advised that occasionally the City would agree to certain changes.
He would seek the City Attorney's review of requested changes. Changing
the ownership of work product was fairly typical.
Council Member DuBois noted the proposer wanted to limit its liability to the
amount of the contract.
Ms. Coleman remarked that the few requested changes were a positive sign
for contract negotiations. She would obtain and review the proposer's
requested changes and advise Mayor Filseth.
Council Member DuBois indicated the proposer requested a revision in the
amount of liability insurance and some other things.
Ms. Coleman reported the liability limits could be negotiated. The scope of
work did not appear to be high risk; therefore, she was reasonably confident
a mutually agreeable limit could be negotiated.
2. Discussion Regarding Council Appointed Officers (CAO) Annual
Performance Evaluation Process.
Deb Figone, Municipal Resources Group (MRG), reported the Council
Appointed Officers Committee (Committee) previously requested a list of
comparator agencies and core competencies. The performance evaluation
for 2019 would likely utilize the existing core competencies with some
revisions.
Rumi Portillo, Human Resources (HR) Director, advised that she did not have
the historical data that indicated the reasons for using the cities listed. Staff
typically relied on survey experts to define a comparable agency. Over time,
fire and police, utilities, population, daytime population, workforce size, and
budget had all been factors in selecting comparator agencies. County
government was traditionally included in surveys.
Ms. Figone recalled that the Committee had reviewed survey data in prior
years but had not relied on it. The Committee usually considered the City's
budget, labor union contracts, the economy, the individual's performance,
and the Management Plan in setting compensation. The Committee could
utilize the current agencies in a salary survey and in the fall discuss policy
considerations for selection of comparator agencies. Alternatively, the
Committee could omit the salary survey for 2019 and utilize other criteria.
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Council Member DuBois requested the number of comparators typically used
in a survey.
Ms. Portillo indicated the number had varied between three and twelve.
Eight or ten would be a high number.
Council Member DuBois assumed the comparator agencies had been
selected many years ago. Generally, City policies directed compensation
toward the area median. The comparator agencies influenced the median
compensation. Perhaps the Committee could utilize the same comparator
agencies for a 2019 survey and begin work on selection of agencies for a
2020 survey. Using comparator agencies with utilities was appealing.
Population, number of services, staffing exclusive of utilities staff, and
proximity were factors in selecting comparator agencies. He inquired
whether the number of agencies affected the cost of a survey.
Ms. Portillo answered yes.
Council Member DuBois remarked that utilizing the same cities for each CAO
would be good. Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Redwood City should
definitely be comparator agencies.
Chair Filseth preferred including a couple of larger cities to set an upper
limit.
Council Member Kniss related that talking with other cities could provide
some insights into factors for selecting comparator agencies. She was not
interested in evaluating each of the agencies to determine the degree to
which they aligned with the City of Palo Alto. She inquired whether the
Committee reviewed the salary survey for compensation only.
Ms. Figone responded salary and benefits.
Ms. Portillo answered total compensation.
Council Member Kniss asked if cities with utilities were a more direct
comparison to the City of Palo Alto.
Ms. Portillo explained that cities with utilities could be a more direct
comparison, but cities with utilities were usually located outside the survey
area.
Council Member DuBois wanted to reduce the number of agencies.
Ms. Figone advised that the City having utilities added complexity to the City
Manager's and City Attorney's roles.
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Council Member DuBois clarified that 21 cities for the City Manager was a
lot. He suggested the Committee review the cities, consider the factors for comparison, and reduce the number of comparator agencies to ten or
twelve.
Chair Filseth cautioned the Committee about eliminating comparator cities
wholesale because some of the CAO positions could be left with only three
comparator cities.
Ms. Figone recommended the size of an agency's budget as a factor for
selecting it. The variety of cities for each CAO position may be based on
whether the council appointed the position. Most city attorneys reported to
the council, but not all city clerks reported to the council. Very few cities
had performance auditors on staff. Many cities utilized contract city
attorneys. The level of complexity of the city should be another factor.
Chair Filseth wanted some factor for the size of the city, perhaps budget or
headcount.
Council Member Kniss noted a great deal of Staff time was spent engaging
with the community. Some factors could not be objectively determined and
included in a chart.
Ms. Figone recommended the Committee consider the usefulness of the
survey data to the Committee.
Council Member DuBois felt the ability to benchmark Palo Alto compensation
with other cities was useful.
Chair Filseth inquired whether Council Member DuBois was suggesting
reducing the list of agencies to ten total cities or ten cities without and seven
cities with utilities.
Council Member DuBois answered: 12 total.
Chair Filseth commented that 12 total cities would mean five cities without
utilities for the City Manager, and that seemed small. He assumed there
would be a bimodal distribution for the City Manager depending whether the
city did or did not have utilities because the number of staff would be larger.
Council Member DuBois suggested seven cities with utilities and at least five
cities without utilities.
Chair Filseth felt the problem with the seven cities with utilities was their
distance from Palo Alto.
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Ms. Figone advised that Berkeley and Davis had likely been comparators
because they were homes to universities.
Chair Filseth did not believe being home to a university would be a bigger
factor than budget size.
Council Member Kniss asked if the universities were located within the cities.
Ms. Figone responded yes. She inquired whether the Committee wanted a
survey of the agencies in 2019.
Chair Filseth answered yes.
Ms. Figone suggested she work with Staff or a consultant to review the
criteria for comparator agencies and recommend Bay Area agencies that
would fit the criteria.
Ms. Portillo reported Staff could draft a recommendation and work with a
consultant to validate the recommendation. The cost of living for the seven
cities with utilities listed for the City Manager could be standardized. She
had expected Fremont, Mountain View, Redwood City, San Jose, and
Sunnyvale to be comparator agencies. For the City Attorney position, one of
the comparator cities did not have a comparable city attorney, which would
leave 11 agencies on the list.
Chair Filseth expressed concern that seven out-of-area agencies and five
local agencies would skew the data. The Bay Area was different from the
rest of the state, and the City competed in the Bay Area for employees.
Council Member Kniss questioned whether comparator agencies required
their CAOs to live within the city. A number of the agencies did not offer
housing for their CAOs.
Ms. Portillo explained that the Committee received separate data for cities
with and without utilities.
MOTION: Council Member DuBois moved, seconded by Council Member
Kniss to use the current survey parameters for this year and then look at
reducing the list for next year.
MOTION PASSED: 3-0
Ms. Portillo reported Staff had developed a sample list of competencies for
the Executive Leadership Team (ELT). Eventually, the list could be included
in the evaluation process. The list was being used to focus professional
development and engage in conversation with the ELT. She requested
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direction regarding grouping core competencies so that they could mesh
with the rating categories. Very few rating categories were consistent across the CAOs. She was disadvantaged by not knowing the factors that led to the
inconsistency. She requested direction from the Committee as to whether it
wished to revise core competencies and whether revised competencies
should align with those used across the organization.
Council Member DuBois asked if the Committee could change to the
competencies used across the organization.
Ms. Portillo clarified that the core competencies had been introduced to the
ELT, but they were not used for ratings yet.
Council Member Kniss remarked that the new competencies appeared
robust.
Ms. Portillo added that the City Manager had been active in vetting the
competencies.
Council Member DuBois suggested the Committee begin work on the
competencies in 2019 and implement them in 2020.
Council Member Kniss asked if the list of competencies was too extensive to
utilize at the current time.
Ms. Portillo explained that Staff had not worked through how to assign a
rating to the competencies.
Ms. Figone indicated the question for the Committee was whether all the
competencies lent themselves to ratings for the CAOs. Most of them
probably lent themselves to ratings. Some may need refinement.
Council Member DuBois suggested the Committee continue with the current
competencies but discuss the proposed competencies during evaluations. In
2020, the Committee could choose to implement the new competencies.
Ms. Figone believed the current competencies could be used with some
revisions. As Staff works on the new competencies, the Committee could
bring them into its evaluation process.
Council Member DuBois proposed revisions to competencies that would allow
the first six rows to apply to all CAOs.
Ms. Figone recommended revising the labels but retaining the language
specific to each CAO.
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Chair Filseth concurred. The Council had debated the differences between
some labels.
Council Member Kniss hoped to revise the evaluation process so that all
Council Members would participate. If revising the performance categories
could accomplish that, she favored it. She questioned whether the
evaluation process was too complicated.
Ms. Figone reported she would emphasize interviewing all Council Members
if they were available. If Council Members preferred an electronic interview,
she would provide them with a Word document to complete rather than an
online survey. Hopefully, a telephone or in-person interview could reduce
the verbiage and make the evaluation easier for Council Members. The
questions from the prior online survey would be asked via interview or a
Word document.
Council Member Kniss requested an approximate amount of time to
complete the interview.
Ms. Figone estimated 90 minutes. Council Members would receive the
packet in advance of the interview. If Council Members did not have time
for an interview, they would receive the interview questions in a Word
document.
Council Member Kniss felt Ms. Figone could provide some guidance during an
interview.
Ms. Figone hoped an interview would be helpful. The interviews were
scheduled during the Council's recess. The interviews were held during the
recess in 2018 as well, and the results were no different than in prior years.
Staff would revise the labels, the typographical errors, and some of the
language without changing the spirit of the document. She recommended
monitoring Staff's progress with the proposed competencies and introducing
the new competencies to the Council. At a minimum, Staff could return with
the proposed competencies as the 2019 evaluation process ended.
Council Member DuBois suggested introducing the new competencies during
the final 10 minutes of interviews.
Ms. Figone advised that she could circulate the new competencies among the
Council and request their thoughts about the new competencies during the
interviews.
Council Member Kniss felt Council Members may be more willing to respond
with only three CAOs to review.
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Ms. Figone added that the City Manager's review would be more goal setting
than review.
Council Member Kniss inquired about alternate ways to evaluate CAOs that
could be more effective than the Committee's process.
Ms. Figone commented that the Committee's process was more complex
than she had experienced. The Committee was engaged in the process and
allocated a great deal of time to the process. The Committee had to decide
if it wanted to trade off some components of the process. She was
impressed with the level of feedback provided to CAOs.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 6:50 P.M.